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episode.

0:54

Welcome to bookkeeping, The Book Club podcast.

0:56

Well, I've read the book, so you don't have to. My

0:58

name is Dave Wonkey, and on each episode of

1:00

this show, we look. One of the classics. And it's

1:02

not just me looking at a classic live in London

1:04

today. Could you please open the stage to my

1:06

special guests this week. It's Matt Stewart

1:08

and Phil Wellington. Fail.

1:20

You're gonna be a cheese man. I

1:24

just have a nice jacket. I just have a nice jacket.

1:27

Hi, everybody.

1:32

Hi, everybody. That's

1:35

pretty strong. I'm very good. It's

1:37

a bit sympathetic, but

1:40

oh, the claim this is what matters. Love

1:42

to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks so much

1:44

for being here in We don't usually

1:47

do these latches in arm chairs. How do you

1:49

feel about this

1:49

furniture? This is just this is just

1:51

for the British Lane. You

1:52

Yeah. That we flew these

1:53

over. It was

1:55

very expensive. Oh, yeah. Lovely.

1:58

Yeah. I might probably nod off.

2:00

Yeah. It's too comfortable. Honestly, I am worried

2:02

about you nodding off in that shit. What

2:05

do you what do you call these? Like a baby Chesterfield

2:07

or something?

2:09

No. I'm just

2:11

trying to say I'm like a new something there. No.

2:13

That that was impressive. I think it was impressed.

2:15

I think that that that was incredibly impressive. People

2:17

going, oh, wow. And that's more privileged

2:19

than we thought. He knows about

2:21

different types of live a trend has

2:24

really done damages every man per se.

2:29

Now, this is a podcast. It's it's about books.

2:32

Oh, fuck.

2:34

I did not know. Now

2:36

whenever I have a guest for the first time on the show, I usually

2:38

ask them if they're much of a reader or if you ever

2:40

been much read on your life to the start of the show basically.

2:42

Because when I was a kid, I read a lot, but then

2:44

I really dropped off for a good couple of decades

2:46

there. But I've come back in strong

2:49

with podcast about books that forces me to

2:51

read now. So that's that's my

2:52

tactic. But you're much of a reader? Yeah.

2:54

III hated it as a kid. I didn't really

2:56

read. As a child, which

2:59

is weird because I was nerdy, but like

3:01

not book nerdy. I was like video

3:03

game nerd. Yeah. I was like video game with

3:05

professional wrestling nerd. Which

3:08

is the opposite of reading. The firm

3:11

WWE is the opposite of reading. And

3:14

then sort of, like, started reading

3:16

in my teen's Dan Brown novels.

3:19

And I thought, yeah, some brown heads in.

3:22

Yeah. This is literature.

3:25

And like I read like all of them digital

3:28

fortress, that's actually the best.

3:31

Yes. A fortress head in. Yeah.

3:34

You're getting nature and nature out there. Yeah.

3:36

I went like deep on, like, deep guys. And then I went

3:38

to university. And I got and

3:40

I and read a few more other novels,

3:43

and I got I tried to catch up on my my

3:45

my literature gap. And

3:47

then I I and then Danbury wrote the

3:49

lost symbol. Mhmm. And I was

3:51

I was like, oh, yeah. Dan's got a new

3:53

book app. And got it and I couldn't

3:56

get through, like, five pages. It was

3:58

atrocious. I was like, did I

4:00

enjoy this? So that's

4:02

my that's been my my journey. Yeah.

4:04

And and I now mainly read, do you know

4:07

Twitter? I've

4:09

heard of that. Some pretty wild stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

4:12

It's gotten better lately, isn't it? Now,

4:15

I actually think it's gotten better recently.

4:17

Yeah. Now I'm

4:18

very problematic. Yeah. Now we're a good

4:20

girl. Yeah. I can show. That's alright. We

4:22

can say what we wanted to say.

4:25

And as far as that book check pod okay. Fantastic.

4:28

Some really hotcakes about books them all. Who's

4:30

that damn browns that illusionist

4:32

guy, right, who makes you Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

4:34

It's amazing. At the end of the book, you

4:37

have his thoughts in your

4:38

hands. Yeah. The whole story

4:40

is in your Whoa. I don't know how it does.

4:42

How do you know it? Well,

4:46

this week, we're going a bit further back

4:48

than Dan Brown. We're going all the way back

4:50

to the invisible man

4:53

by h g wells. Oh,

4:56

thank you. Would you

4:57

have done that no matter what I said? You

4:59

would have. Think we're doing an impression

5:01

of the invisible man. So

5:07

people suggest that I do this film, and this one's been

5:09

suggested by Garrett Mitchell from

5:11

Pennsylvania. He went

5:13

tonight. Now we

5:15

got a car from Massachusetts, John

5:18

O'Sullivan from Ireland, there's a chance.

5:22

Was that a wow. A

5:24

small dog was kicked up in the back there.

5:27

Sarah from Australia, Jeremy

5:30

Webb from

5:30

Melbourne, You

5:33

said he was in? We know

5:35

him. So I do think it is. And

5:38

finally, From Mildura

5:40

Australia, Lord Loewen Joseph's.

5:43

What the hell? From Mildura

5:46

from Australia. Yeah. Hello. It's Lord

5:48

Loewen. Oh. Wow.

5:50

Georgia. It's

5:50

like a it's like a country town that

5:52

grows oranges. They

5:55

get a load there. Lord Lord

5:57

of the oranges. Yeah. Yeah. But

5:59

what I have ascertain by reading

6:01

that back, we've picked from US Ireland and Australia.

6:03

No one from the UK wanted me to cover this.

6:05

So Sorry, but I've chosen

6:07

it. Is it an English book? It very

6:09

much is. Yeah. It's a London

6:12

book. Oh, that's where we are. We are.

6:14

Yes. Actually, a lot better than

6:17

Not many. Not many. Not

6:19

many. Not an international town. Yeah.

6:21

Alright. Are you either of you familiar

6:24

with the invisible man before we kick it off?

6:26

I I'm not I'm not I'm not visible.

6:31

So I'm gonna find my heart to relay. Yeah. Sorry.

6:33

But then Actually,

6:36

this is my self

6:36

representing. Yes. Oh, wow.

6:39

That's a modern man. I feel invisible,

6:42

you know. What

6:45

about us? That's

6:48

why mister Musk has taken over to

6:50

to make us visible, like, the father

6:52

giving us a voice. I

6:54

wasn't really aware of it as a book. I was aware of

6:57

it slightly as an old horror movie,

6:59

the invisible man. Right? Because I guess it got turned in a

7:01

horror movie. But I was kinda strange that it was a horror

7:03

movie. It didn't seem That's

7:05

scary to me. And then I realized I think I

7:07

was imagining the film the invisible man from the perspective

7:10

of the invisible man. And I

7:12

think because I'm deep down just such a perv.

7:15

I was like, that doesn't sound like a horror movie. That just

7:17

sounds like the best day of your life.

7:20

And then realize I was from the perspective of

7:23

right. Yeah.

7:24

For the business being being served on, being

7:26

served on here. Yeah.

7:28

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So

7:31

I'm not yeah. Yeah. But I'm interested to see

7:33

when it comes because the a t world's he's like all

7:35

the world's in that in

7:36

it. Absolutely. Yeah. In

7:39

it.

7:39

Oh, that's great. Is that a London? That's

7:41

London. Is that Yeah. I just want just want to worry.

7:43

That's London. I'm trying

7:45

to make it, like, believable that you guys are in London,

7:47

man. Yeah. I finally listened to this. Say what,

7:49

Gazer? Too

7:52

ripe. Is that is that London?

7:54

Yeah. Yeah.

7:56

That's heaps

7:57

London. Yeah. Heaps London. Yeah. I

8:00

saw a movie last year called The

8:02

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Mhmm.

8:05

And there wasn't the Invisible Man in

8:07

it, but there was an invisible man man because

8:09

I couldn't get the copyright, apparently. So

8:12

the only copyrighted primary visible man

8:14

is the definite article. Yes.

8:17

That's a terrible lie. That's what I do.

8:19

So in this story, I think the actual

8:22

invisible man, whatever his name is, he's

8:24

dead. And this new guy

8:27

found his serum. And now he's

8:29

just an invisible

8:29

man. It's a great movie.

8:32

I I think it's they would not like it, but a little

8:34

as far Is that

8:34

the one that's shown that's not the strong Connery in

8:36

it?

8:36

Yeah. I think it's his last ever film.

8:40

Is it? That

8:43

is that cannot

8:45

be true.

8:47

So he didn't make it. I mean, it made me feel like the last twenty

8:49

years of his life. Yeah. He retired.

8:52

Is he true? It was his true. Yes.

8:55

No. I think

8:57

it was it was so bad that he quit

8:59

cinema. And

9:01

you liked it. I thought, well, I went into

9:03

it hearing that it sucked and I'm

9:05

like, oh, this doesn't suck that much. Which

9:08

is good enough for me. There

9:11

you go. Alright, the invisible man. It's

9:13

a science fiction novel by h g wells.

9:15

Originally serialized in magazine form in

9:17

eighteen ninety seven, HG

9:19

Wells or Herbert George

9:21

Wells. Eight eight ninety seven. I see the

9:24

VFL football. Sorry,

9:26

Philly.

9:27

Matt likes to intro men. With boring

9:29

facts a lot. Right. I say about

9:31

What would be bored by that side?

9:33

Still more confused. What

9:36

does it mean? The VSL. Yeah.

9:38

It's what the Australian football league. I thought it

9:40

was a NFL. Oh, a NFL is a football

9:42

football. Yeah. I know. It's AAA

9:45

VFL became the NFL in nineteen

9:47

ninety, but it began in eighteen ninety

9:49

seven as the

9:50

VFL, Victorian football league.

9:51

Oh. Yes. It's up. Or are

9:53

you thinking that? No. That's I didn't just say, yeah. It's

9:56

it's best just to not ask questions. Herman

9:59

George Wells was born in Bromley in

10:01

Greater London. In

10:03

eighteen sixty six, and he died in

10:06

nineteen forty six at his

10:07

home, which overlooked Regents

10:09

Park, which is right there.

10:13

That's nice. It's impressive. He

10:15

wrote more than fifty novels, which is

10:17

a lot a dozen fifty

10:19

novels. Too many. Yeah. Yeah.

10:21

I think after forty, they're not good anymore.

10:23

Yeah. They can't they can't be all good, Kevin.

10:25

I was like like in a strailer if

10:28

you said, oh, this famous thing happened here,

10:30

everyone would be like, fucking hell, really? In

10:32

London, they're like, yeah. Yeah.

10:34

Of

10:34

course, something important happen every fucking

10:36

five meters. Yeah. Doesn't

10:38

matter. No one cares. Yeah. You can't lift your

10:40

foot up without seeing one of those blue plaques. That

10:43

says, like, alright. Chris had a sheet here in

10:45

nineteen ninety one. Oh, great. This

10:47

is Chris. They're here. You're obsessed with

10:49

this part. I

10:51

love those parks. I said fifty

10:53

novels, dozens of short stories including, as you said,

10:55

the War of the World, the Ireland of Doctor Moreau,

10:58

the Time Machine which I've done on the port

11:00

before, and the invisible man which has led him

11:02

to be dubbed the father of science fiction.

11:05

The one thing I didn't know is he was a diabetic

11:07

and cofounder, the charity, the Diabetic

11:09

Association known today as Diabetes

11:11

UK. Here

11:14

you go. What you go? As

11:16

to the invisible man, the work has been the basis

11:18

for many adaptations across mediums, and the

11:20

main character whom we shall soon meet has been commonly

11:22

referenced in popular culture.

11:24

As an invisible man. And

11:27

we always start with the opening line

11:30

to paint the the scene with a bit

11:32

of Herbert George Welles is writing

11:34

here. Chapter one is called. Who's

11:35

Herbert

11:36

George Welles? Sorry.

11:38

You might know him as AHG wells.

11:40

Yeah.

11:41

H g -- Yes. -- twelve h

11:43

g.

11:46

That's another neatest thing. Alright. Chapter

11:49

one, the strange man's arrival

11:52

strange or strange? No.

11:54

Just strange.

11:55

Strange. Just Yeah. He's an estranged man.

11:57

Yeah. That's an estranged. Yeah. She left

11:59

me. This

12:02

is the opening line. The on opening few

12:04

launches. The stranger came early in February,

12:07

one wintry day through a biting

12:09

wind and a driving snow the

12:12

last snowfall of the year over the

12:14

down walking from Bramblehurst railway

12:16

station and carrying a little black Portman

12:19

toe in his thickly gloved

12:21

hand. He was wrapped

12:23

up from head to foot and the brim of his soft

12:25

felt hat hit every inch of his face,

12:27

but the shiny tip of his nose The

12:29

snow had piled itself against his shoulders

12:32

and chest and added a white crest

12:34

to the burden that he

12:35

carried. Wow. And

12:38

we're

12:38

heading for words early, doesn't he?

12:41

This is good. This is good stuff you're in.

12:43

But

12:43

yeah. You're in. I'm a herbie. I really wanna

12:45

know what happens to this shiny nose.

12:48

Oh. I'm gonna talk about this

12:50

nose. Right. That's one of the main

12:52

characters. Ameroff,

12:54

we've just met as our unmet

12:57

unnamed main character there referenced by the narrator

12:59

as the stranger. You're

13:02

sister riding a snowstorm at the at the

13:04

coach in horses, which is an

13:06

in slash bar in I Ping.

13:09

Iping. You're

13:12

shitting me. I

13:14

literally downloaded an audiobook read

13:17

by an English person just to hear that

13:19

word, and he said Iping. How

13:21

how are you spelling IIPING?

13:23

Is that I ping?

13:25

I've never heard of I that that place.

13:27

Maybe it's made

13:28

of. When

13:30

you when you spelt it, the crowd

13:32

moment.

13:33

Yeah. That's what I mean. Little

13:35

conversations broke out everywhere. Yeah. It's amazing.

13:37

When people fall, you you meant tapping.

13:39

Mean, there was just there's fury and

13:42

you could feel it. I thought you could feel the anger.

13:44

I thought it was acting. But then when you said IPI

13:46

and JI Roman, alright. We missed judge

13:49

today. We thank you.

13:51

Thank you. That cost me an audible credit. So

13:55

Are we told? We're told that

13:57

he staggers in more dead than alive

14:00

and yells, a fire in the name of humanity

14:02

and

14:03

charity, a room and a fire.

14:07

Good stuff. In the in the name of what?

14:09

And humanity humanity and charity. That's

14:12

a nice way to enter a hotel, isn't it?

14:14

When I enter Premier Inn in the name of

14:17

humanity, I

14:19

want something on the top floor,

14:21

please. And the name

14:23

of all that is Reint and

14:24

Holy. Yes, sir. Please

14:26

be shot to your current country. It's very reasonable.

14:29

Sounds like you just say in the Hindenburg down.

14:34

Oh, the humanity of fire. There

14:37

you go. So

14:40

yeah. He was I thought he was saying there was

14:42

a fire, but he just wanted a heater base. He

14:44

wants he's cold.

14:45

Yep. Yep. Because it yeah.

14:47

Right. This is the guy with the nose. This is

14:49

the nose man. Yeah. We have had

14:51

one character so far. But

14:56

he's another one. Hard to keep up. Yeah.

14:59

He's another one that actually waves

15:01

the wild way.

15:02

But who is he talking about? Here's

15:05

missus Hall, the owner, who gives the man a

15:07

room despite the fact he looks quite strange,

15:09

being covered from her 88 with only a shiny

15:12

nose showing. He's wearing a hat

15:14

in large spectacles with side glasses

15:16

that make him look like he's basically wearing goggles.

15:19

But she welcomes him in because he doesn't haggle

15:22

about price. He just wants the room and she

15:24

wants his cash. Once he offers

15:26

to take his coat off that he refuses and instead

15:28

stands dripping, melting snow all

15:31

over the

15:31

fireplace, which she worries might

15:33

cause rust. Why

15:36

don't you have for that? So that the

15:38

stakes start pretty low in this book.

15:41

Yeah. Yeah. It's dances a

15:42

rust. Yeah. She's like, oh, no. I was gonna

15:44

cause a bit of rust. She

15:47

is shocked when he does remove his hat because

15:49

she sees that, quote, All his

15:51

forehead above his blue glasses was covered

15:53

by a white bandage and another

15:56

covered his ears, leaving not a scrap

15:58

of his face exposed accepting only

16:00

his pink, peaked nose. Wow.

16:03

So he's wrapped up in bandages this man,

16:05

but he's got a nose sticking out. And

16:08

when he eats, he covers his mouth of the napkin,

16:10

which I think is just polite, but she thinks it's

16:12

weird. I think I would say he's through the nose. He's

16:14

just like, just snorts everything.

16:17

Do you have anything for dinner and is it

16:19

in powder form?

16:23

Speak in London isn't at that door. People

16:29

I mean, especially in bathrooms, people always have been

16:31

in bathrooms.

16:34

She assumes that this man's been in an accident

16:36

and tries to sort of ask him about it, but he

16:38

totally shuts her down and clearly doesn't wanna

16:40

chat. To be

16:42

honest, he's a bit rude, bit rude.

16:44

The only thing he really communicates to missus Hall

16:46

is that he's desperate to have his bags delivered

16:48

from a nearby train station, he tells

16:51

her, I should explain. When

16:53

I was really too cold and fatigued to

16:55

to do

16:55

before, that I am an experimental

16:58

investigator. Oh.

17:01

And I'd hear that and have a lot of follow-up questions.

17:04

But missus Hall says, indeed, sir,

17:08

and she is quite much impressed. In

17:12

fact, when other people in the town ask missus Hall

17:14

about her guest of what he does for a living, she says,

17:16

oh yeah, he's an experimental investigator. And

17:18

this is quote from the book. When asked what

17:20

an experimental investigator was, she

17:22

would say with a touch of superiority that

17:24

most educated people knew such things as

17:26

that. And with us explained that

17:28

he discovered things. So

17:31

she's got no idea what he

17:32

does, but she's like, yeah, I know.

17:34

Why don't you tell me what you think he does?

17:37

Yeah. I say when someone asked me

17:39

what Bitcoin is. I'm like,

17:41

if you were clever, you'd already know. Yeah.

17:44

I'm not gonna debase myself by explaining

17:46

this to you. Can you explain it to me?

17:48

Oh, it's about like a blockchain and

17:51

you buy a picture of a

17:53

shrimp and and

17:55

then you become very rich or very

17:57

poor.

17:58

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no middle ground anymore,

18:00

sir. The stranger tells missus Hall

18:02

that came to town to be alone to carry

18:04

out more of his work. But missus Hall

18:06

doesn't really take a hint while and she calls in a guy

18:09

called Teddy Humphrey, who has a job

18:11

I've never heard of before, but maybe in England this

18:13

is a big job. It sounds pretty

18:14

English. Rat Catcher.

18:19

Any any guesses Phil? Well, he might do an English

18:21

standing job that's caught my fancy. Oh,

18:26

is it a a chin

18:28

a chimney land or a

18:33

a carriage plan I'll submit that. Honestly,

18:36

you are in the right ballpark. Teddy

18:38

Humphrey is a clock jobber.

18:41

Okay. Right? Which I'm gonna hear.

18:44

I love a good talk job. Take your time.

18:46

Take your own personal talk job.

18:51

She calls around the clock jobber who apparently repairs

18:54

and maintains clocks. And

18:56

she sends in this clock jobber into

19:00

the strangest room to have a look at his

19:02

clock, but really she wants him to go in there and

19:04

ask him to get him talking about what

19:06

he's what he's what

19:06

he's, you know, therefore, but

19:09

he totally shuts the clock job it

19:11

down as well. Well, so so so

19:13

so the the the so the maintenance

19:15

of the hotel has sent in a

19:17

clock jobber -- Yep. -- into the

19:19

bandaged men, the strangers room -- Yep.

19:21

-- in the hopes that he's off, he'll get the

19:24

down the the

19:25

tea, the down low on white. She's

19:27

like, you're you've got the gift of the gab. You'll get him

19:29

talking. You're a clock jobber, and

19:32

he can't jump drop his

19:33

clock. He he he

19:35

basically gets kicked out of the room. It's

19:38

it feels like they're building up the suspense

19:40

so that we don't know what's going

19:42

on, but the name of the book the invisible man.

19:45

Yeah. That

19:47

is only

19:49

part of the second half of the story, Matt.

19:51

The first half is a completely unrelated story.

19:54

The first half is called the bandage, ma'am.

19:57

It's very different, very different. So the

19:59

bandage or invisible man's bag

20:01

soon arrives and it contains all sorts of peculiar

20:03

things for science experiments including bottles

20:05

of powders, London. Different

20:08

colored liquids of all sizes, and summer

20:11

even labeled poison. Right.

20:14

So the landlord is like, this is a bit old.

20:16

And for many months, he locks himself away

20:18

in his room to carry out experiments. He doesn't go

20:21

to church or communicate with anyone in the

20:23

outside world. Sometimes missus

20:25

Hall hears bottles smashing and when she

20:27

expresses concern, he

20:29

says, just add it to my bill if there's

20:31

any damage. Just leave me alone. Don't worry about

20:33

it. Right. She's

20:35

she's a bit worried. She walks in to give him

20:38

dinner one day without knocking and

20:40

looks at he looks at her and when she thinks

20:42

and I'm sorry. He looks at her and she

20:45

thinks he seems to have very shallow eye

20:47

sockets, which is weird

20:49

thing to notice about someone where

20:51

she thinks he has cello. Yeah. She walks in and goes,

20:53

oh, I've got your soup. Oh, you've got cello

20:55

iron. And

20:58

one of that satisfied curiosity. Yeah.

21:00

It'll nugget. Yeah. Just look. Oh. And then

21:02

he immediately puts his glasses back on as she

21:04

goes, I must have been seeing things. There's no way.

21:06

He's got shallow eye sockets. That

21:08

would be weird. This lady is a bit

21:10

nosy. I mean, I know I know he's

21:13

he's a bit weird and creepy, but feels a bit

21:15

unprofessional how much he's trying to

21:17

invade her her guests' private space.

21:19

Yes. Totally. In her in her defense, he's

21:21

also a bit nosy because that's That's

21:25

really all they're resolving. Yes.

21:30

Hey. Well, that's the kind of thing

21:32

you like. Is it? That

21:35

felt

21:35

right.

21:40

So the whole town started gossip about

21:42

the still unnamed stranger. He certainly

21:44

is a bit of a strange

21:45

guy. I mean, he's not even going to church.

21:48

Alarm bells.

21:50

There's all these theories about him being a criminal,

21:52

laying low, all sorts of stuff.

21:54

The local town doctor doctor

21:56

Kasse, Oh. Doctor

21:59

Cass. Yeah. Don't get him on a bad day. Just

22:01

insult you the second you all. Yeah. We

22:03

get stupid leg. Fucking

22:06

tons of liners. But

22:12

he's also very nosy. He's curious and

22:14

goes to meet the stranger for himself. We

22:16

don't hear what is said, but we do know

22:18

doctor Kuske runs out of the room in

22:20

terror. Apparently, while speaking

22:23

with the stranger, His his

22:25

hand had revealed that his sleeve was open

22:28

but completely empty, so he was just speculating

22:30

with an open sleeve. Where

22:32

is this going? Who

22:35

is this stranger? What an hour?

22:37

I'm so so many questions. Dr.

22:39

Cus could see all the way down the open sleeve, but there

22:41

was nothing in it, but it was open.

22:44

And when Dr. Cus expressed concerned about

22:46

the stranger having an empty sleeve before his very

22:49

eyes, the stranger said, empty?

22:51

It's an empty sleeve. Is it? You

22:54

say it's an empty sleeve. It

22:59

sounds like he's padding for something. He

23:02

then lifted the sleeve up and moved it

23:04

close to the doctor's face. And what

23:06

felt like a

23:06

finger? He couldn't see it, tapped

23:08

him on his nose. So he basically

23:11

just burps the doctor on his

23:12

own. And then

23:14

the doctor ran away terrified. And

23:17

that's not the only weird thing that happens in town,

23:20

guys. Soon the local vicar and

23:22

his wife awoke to the sounds of their vicarage

23:24

being burgled in the middle of the night, but

23:26

the weirdest thing is when they go downstairs,

23:29

There's no one in the room.

23:32

What is going on here?

23:34

Just a floating nose. Yes.

23:39

Look at that morning, missus Hall decides to

23:41

kick out the stranger, partly because he's

23:43

weird, but mostly because he

23:46

hasn't paid his bill for ages. So

23:49

she invites the blacksmith over to change

23:51

the locks when she sees him out of the room one

23:53

day, which is pretty drastic. Step.

23:57

But the weirdest thing is the stranger walks out

23:59

of the room as they start to change the

24:01

look. The same room that moments

24:03

earlier was empty. I'm

24:06

trying to get my head off my nose. Let's

24:08

see. What is happening? What

24:11

on earth is going

24:12

on? You're never going to believe the sweet reveal

24:14

was coming up.

24:17

The stranger then offers misses

24:19

Hall money, which she's suspicious about because

24:21

earlier, didn't seem to have any

24:23

at all. Where did he get the money

24:25

from? Is he the thief? But

24:28

the room was out tea. It

24:31

all builds to a head on wet Monday, a

24:33

Christian holiday. And to

24:35

set the scene, we have what I Believe

24:38

is the most English paragraph I've ever

24:40

come across. And being English,

24:42

I was wondering, Phil, if you could possibly bring

24:44

this scene to life for

24:46

us.

24:46

Before we get into it, is with Monday still

24:48

celebrated?

24:49

Oh, yeah. It's a big it's a big deal.

24:52

Yeah. Everyone gets fucking wanker.

24:55

I don't know where Monday. Yeah. Oh,

24:57

it's crazy, man. So

25:00

this this is actually check before you

25:02

can read, hon? Yeah. So

25:04

we've got to check with the wrong

25:06

assumption, but I'll

25:08

try. Okay. So this the the this is the most

25:10

English paragraph.

25:11

Yeah. But Steve, you think it's to me, it seemed

25:13

very very English. This is it seemed for wit Monday for

25:15

the next part of the story.

25:17

It was the finest of all possible with

25:19

Mondays. And down the village

25:21

street stood a row of nearly a dozen

25:23

booths A shooting gallery and

25:25

on the grass by the Forge were three

25:27

yellow and chocolate wagons and some picturesque

25:30

strangers of both sexes putting up a

25:32

coconut shy. I'll

25:36

give you a Put them in this one bit more. Yes. I'm a bit

25:38

more. Yeah. Yeah. Okay? The gentleman

25:41

wore blue jerseys, the ladies,

25:43

white aprons, and white fashionable hats

25:45

with heavy plumes. Wodger

25:48

of it's

25:50

the name Wodger. Wodger

25:53

of the purple horn

25:56

A purple foreign is in quotation marks here. Watch

25:58

out of the purple foreign and mister

26:01

Jaegers. Why how old

26:02

is Oh,

26:04

well, this is McJancas. Watch

26:07

out of the purple foreign and and mister Shankas,

26:09

the cobbler, who also sold

26:11

old selco who also sold

26:13

old secondhand ordinary bicycles.

26:20

Was stretching a string of union jacks

26:22

and royal enzymes, which had

26:24

originally celebrated the first Victorian Jubilee

26:26

across the road.

26:28

Yeah. That's pretty English. Yeah. So

26:31

I think for some reason secondhand ordinary

26:33

bicycles is the most English accent that

26:36

you've so angry. But I think the stuff

26:38

got there.

26:41

I I needed to hear that.

26:43

Yeah. Yeah. Cobbler is also that's

26:46

gonna be maybe the most English job. What

26:48

does it mean? Cobbler's shoes in

26:50

it. Right. Yeah. I

26:52

had a I had a lovely couple of put these together.

26:56

Oh. His his name's Nigel, so just listen

26:58

to again,

26:58

Oliver.

27:02

So now we've set the scene this week Monday. And

27:04

on this day, many of the town are in the horse and

27:06

stables where the stranger's been staying, including

27:09

the incredibly named local village constable

27:11

mister Bobby

27:13

Jeffers. And

27:16

led by mister Bobby Jeffers, they confront this

27:18

first of all named Bobby. Yeah. Come

27:20

on. That's a bear

27:23

on the

27:23

nose. No. No. No. No. No. This

27:25

is

27:25

this is Such a nosy book. Yeah.

27:29

Miles, well, not as much fair enough as I was having

27:31

yeah. No. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. So

27:35

led by Bobby Jeff as the local constable that

27:37

confront the stranger over the robbery of the victory,

27:40

cornered and frustrated the stranger says,

27:42

quote, you don't understand who I am

27:44

or what I am. I'll show you

27:46

by heaven. I'll show you

27:49

then he put his open palm over his

27:51

face and withdrew it, the center

27:53

of his face became a black

27:56

cavity. That's

27:58

right. He's an invisible man.

28:03

You called the title of the

28:05

book wasn't just a coincidence. Double

28:08

bluff. They got

28:09

me. They got you.

28:11

What is that a is that what a double bluff is?

28:13

Yeah. I mean so. Yeah. Sure. Everyone

28:16

freaks out and Bobby Jeff is the constable who

28:18

goes to arrest the stranger

28:20

over the robbery. In fact, most of the bar

28:22

begin to descend on him. He

28:25

says, okay. Okay. I'll What

28:29

is the charge? What's the charge? Being

28:32

invisible, a succulent invisible man.

28:38

Do you know the succulent Chinese meal man?

28:40

Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I

28:47

get it. Yeah. I'm so glad you

28:49

know it

28:49

because I know I was trying to so ugly. It's

28:51

so funny. Like, Chinese food is great,

28:53

but succulent just does not apply to any

28:56

Chinese food. None of it is succulent.

28:58

It's all good. But in Australia, it

29:00

is. Yeah. It is so cute. Health stuff

29:03

is truly succulent. He

29:06

says, okay. I'll give up. I'll give up.

29:09

But then he just starts stripping off his clothes.

29:13

Get naked. Always a good tactic

29:15

to stop a fight. Get naked. That

29:18

isn't that isn't a classic move. You see

29:20

that lot outside of Publight at night?

29:22

There's a fight. One guy will always take your

29:24

shirt

29:24

off. Yeah. You

29:27

don't have

29:27

that hit? Only

29:29

on Wed Mondays. Yeah.

29:32

I don't never know what quite what the logic

29:34

is there. Did he say that

29:36

happened? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So come on then. I think

29:39

I don't know what it is. I think it's just to show that

29:41

you you're physically active or that you're doing

29:43

actually, something with your hands. Yes. I thought

29:45

there's problem when you perform. You don't have to do with

29:47

your hands. Right? So it must be the same when you

29:49

sacrifice someone. It's like, when they when they put these?

29:51

You can't put them in your pockets. It doesn't look very

29:53

aggressive here. And

29:56

it's it's never, like, they never ripped. Like, you may it

29:58

makes sense if they look they look like you're completely

30:01

under Yes. And they're ripped,

30:03

but they're not. They were just flat because it's all I'm

30:05

now less scared of this fire. Yeah.

30:07

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Before he had a shirt and I was wondering

30:09

what's under

30:09

there. Yeah. Now saying that you're like, man. Shit.

30:13

I could take this gun.

30:18

Maybe there's, you know, you know, maybe strategically

30:20

less to grab onto, you know? Maybe

30:22

that's it. Yeah. If you have a number of wrestle,

30:24

I mean, it's more Yeah. You don't wanna damage your shirt,

30:27

you know. Oh, yeah. Not this thing. Look

30:29

at it. Beautiful. I can completely

30:31

make it when I find it. They're not

30:33

grabbing onto

30:34

any. Wow. You're not good, I guess. Right?

30:36

So You know that. That's

30:38

such a good idea. So

30:44

he gets naked. He takes his clothes off. And

30:46

of course, he disappears because he's an invisible man,

30:48

and the town lose their grip on

30:50

him, and then the

30:51

invisible man took his shirt off. No.

30:55

You're you did say that. Yep.

30:57

Then the invisible man starts hitting them. He

30:59

starts taking them out one by one and they can't see him.

31:02

And Bobby Jeffers falls down and even hits

31:04

his

31:04

head.

31:04

No, Bobby Jeffers. Oh, Bobby Jeffers. Bobby Jeffers.

31:07

And just like that though, the invisible man is gone.

31:10

He escapes into the night. But

31:12

the story isn't over yet. Imagine

31:16

it was. That's

31:18

it. He comes across a man that is

31:20

described in the book as a tramp. His

31:22

name is mister Thomas Marvel.

31:25

Wearing shabby clothes and a hat

31:28

Sitting in a ditch outside of Ipeng?

31:30

Youpeng? I'll let it later.

31:33

He sits there considering whether to swap this

31:36

shoes he's wearing for the larger but

31:38

more waterproof ones he's just found in the

31:40

ditch on the side of the

31:41

road. He's like, okay. These fit

31:43

better, but those are waterproof. Well,

31:45

I'm I'm confused. The

31:46

invisible man man is now in a bush.

31:49

No.

31:49

This is a different guy. This is a different guy. We've met

31:51

a new character. Okay. This is he never gonna believe

31:54

that he's gonna cross parts within

31:55

this game. And he he runs

31:57

a tramp.

31:58

No. He is a tramp. Oh, he's a tramp. Oh, he's a

32:00

tramp. I think

32:02

he's driving a trend. Yeah. And

32:04

he just unfucked

32:05

this, and he walked off into a bush. mean, I got my

32:07

new shoes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So

32:09

just a completely new guy sitting in a ditch Just

32:11

having a a conversation with himself about

32:14

shoes. Okay. He's pondering

32:16

this out loud when a voice from an an invisible

32:18

location. You

32:20

never know, believe who this is. Starts

32:23

talking back to him. It's

32:25

the invisible man, but Thomas Marvel is

32:27

freaking out. Is he drunk? Is he having

32:29

visions? Where is this voice?

32:31

He's sort of having the opposite of that, isn't he?

32:36

Not having soundings. What's going on here?

32:39

Where's the voice coming from? And to bring

32:41

this scene to life, I was wondering if I could lean

32:43

on mister Matt Stewart famed for his English

32:45

accent work. If you wouldn't

32:48

mind, Two. Right? Coba? Absolutely.

32:50

This is this is a character of our Tom Thomas

32:52

Marvel. You'll be reading the parts and quotation marks, and

32:55

I'll be reading the the sort of descriptions

32:57

in between here. Okay. So I'm a

32:59

tramp. Say, you know, in the in the ditch,

33:01

on the side of the road, And

33:04

you've just started hearing a voice and

33:06

you're wondering what the heck is going

33:08

on? So this is mister Thomas Marvel's reaction

33:10

to a voice talking to him. Mhmm.

33:13

What can't what can't of English accent? Just

33:16

just whatever? Yeah. Just feel a lot of recognized. I

33:18

got it. Yeah. Go for like Birmingham. Do

33:23

you know how's your how's your acting accent?

33:27

I could do Dudley. I'm from Dudley.

33:30

Yeah. I can only say Dudley. To

33:34

play. Alright.

33:38

You're

33:39

right. Yeah. Start getting or Yeah.

33:41

Oh. It's great to watch and have to prepare.

33:46

I'm off my blooming cham. It's

33:50

no good. It's forever better than

33:52

blazer

33:53

boots. I'm off my blazer boman

33:55

chomp ironed spirit. Fantastic.

34:02

That absolutely. I'm feeling the character so much

34:04

more you bring it to life. But to prove that he's real, the invisible

34:06

man starts throwing rocks at mister Marvel.

34:10

It's the only way. And this is

34:12

how mister Marvel takes that It's

34:14

a fair

34:14

deal. I don't understand that.

34:16

Stoner's fling. And themselves. Stoner's talking.

34:19

Put yourself down right away on time.

34:26

Finally, the invisible man convinced us

34:28

mister Marvel and needless to say mister

34:30

Marvel is impressed. I'm

34:33

dashed. If

34:35

this guy bait caught fat and

34:37

most

34:37

remarkable, And there,

34:40

I can see a rabbit clap from you.

34:42

I'm a man of a way. No, Ben.

34:44

You visible and sick. You haven't

34:46

been in brand choice.

34:50

Wait what? By the way, so you you haven't been

34:52

eating brand cheese. Brand

34:54

cheese. Branded

34:59

Brannante's.

35:01

Brannante's. Brannante's. Brannante's.

35:05

Fant cheese. Reven cheese. Yeah. Yeah.

35:09

Fantastic work. Yeah.

35:14

I don't know what the

35:15

yeah. No. No.

35:16

That wasn't because if if that was a good

35:18

English accent, you probably would have been able to understand

35:20

it.

35:21

So I I still I really believe in myself

35:23

until right at the end there. Yeah.

35:26

No. I was first, fantastic. It's fantastic. Brandon,

35:28

if anything, Brandon, choice was I'm

35:31

coming back into Australia. So I'm

35:32

going, yeah, wow. I imagine my surprise surprise

35:34

surprise

35:35

surprise choice. I'm

35:37

trying No. Yeah. How do you how would you say

35:39

it? Bread and cheese.

35:42

Bread and cheese.

35:44

Beautiful. What what are you saying there is he

35:47

can see you straight to the invisible man except

35:49

he notices that he's been eating bread and cheese. So

35:51

he can see whenever he eats, the

35:53

food just sort of sits there, sort

35:55

of floating digested. If he

35:57

can see it that clearly, it mustn't chew

35:59

enough.

36:00

Yeah. Right? Yeah. This

36:02

is the point. At one point, because, I mean, he's

36:04

yeah. I presume he has the same digestion

36:06

system, we all do. At what point does the food

36:08

become invisible and part of Yeah.

36:12

No. I'm not I'm not trying to be funny. And then suggested,

36:14

It's like a philosophical question for me. At what point

36:16

does it become a

36:17

body? What point does it is it like as it

36:19

gets absorbed? Do you get to watch it like it's slowly

36:22

brown? And then

36:23

the pizza Can you see his share?

36:25

Yeah. It was because that that bit's not absorbed.

36:27

That's a bit

36:28

the body doesn't want. So it's just sort of sitting

36:30

there. Oh. And he can tell he hasn't

36:32

had a shit today.

36:34

Sweet. It's crisis now. It is gross. No.

36:36

This is a horror story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's

36:38

horrifying. You'd see the bladder as well. I suppose,

36:40

there'd just be a patch of urine sort of

36:43

fund. Oh, the rooms in visit

36:45

there's nothing in the room apart from a hovering

36:47

bladder.

36:48

Yeah. What's that bag of pissed doing over

36:50

there? What's that doing? So

36:54

there's a few questions in there. But the

36:56

invisible man enlists Marvel. Mister

36:59

Marvel to to help him, promising to reward

37:01

him also kind of threatening him and saying that he

37:03

has to help him, doesn't really give mister Marvel an option.

37:05

The pair returned to Iping where Marvel breaks

37:08

into the invisible man's old room and

37:10

steals his notebooks. The

37:13

locals have taken a peek in their notebooks, but it's

37:15

all written in symbols and code and they don't understand.

37:18

So they can't just look at his experiments because it's

37:20

all written in this code. Marvel

37:22

turns up and the vicar and doctor let him into the

37:24

room with a notebook czar and in the process, they

37:26

also unknowingly let him the invisible

37:29

man. That's why he got mister Marvel to go

37:31

there. The doctor and the vicar asked Marvel

37:33

to leave, and he

37:34

does, but then the invisible man starts beating

37:36

them up and takes his stuff back.

37:41

He's But mister Marvel goes on to

37:43

write very successful series of comics. Yes.

37:45

Yes. About this incredible. He's

37:48

the inspiration right here. The

37:50

town then blame Marvel and start chasing

37:52

him, accusing him of being the invisible

37:55

man to spite the fact they can clearly see

37:57

him.

37:58

There he is the invisible man. You said

38:00

that towns start chasing him. Yeah.

38:02

Fuck. Yeah.

38:04

Toms we Toms used to be so much better

38:06

at, like, agreeing on

38:08

actions. Yeah. Coming together. To come

38:10

together, like, we're all gonna be this guy up. We're

38:12

all gonna chase him out of town. Where is our

38:14

sense of community going?

38:15

Yeah. When was the last time you chased on out of town?

38:17

Together

38:18

-- Yeah. -- with your neighbors. Let's

38:20

bring that Britain back. I

38:28

haven't chased a whole lot of town in years.

38:34

So people start chasing the thief and then an invisible

38:37

presence, a man, if you will,

38:39

starts taking them out one by one.

38:42

He also breaks every window at the inn and

38:44

cuts the town's telegraph cable. He's

38:46

a real menace. This guy,

38:48

eventually Marvel and the invisible man leave

38:50

town completely. But a bit of tension

38:53

develops between the invisible man and his new

38:55

helper Marvel because Marvel's

38:56

like, Can I quit? I

38:59

don't wanna do this anymore.

39:01

I I keep getting punched and

39:03

run out of town. Yeah. This is

39:05

no

39:05

way to make a living.

39:07

Yeah. He was used to working by himself as well,

39:09

you know, hard to all of a sudden have a boss Yeah.

39:12

His freelance until a couple

39:14

days ago. That's because a choice of a boss who

39:16

can be looking over your shoulder at any

39:18

time. Yeah. Like, not me. Yeah.

39:21

It's like coming out of COVID, you start to be

39:23

able to work at home. All of a sudden, they

39:25

want you back at the office. It's just

39:27

like

39:27

that. And

39:29

when was the last

39:30

time

39:30

you worked in an office, man? That's

39:33

been a little while. Trying to do some

39:35

reliable stuff there. You know, like you.

39:39

You pledge in the audience.

39:44

So mom was like, let me quit. I hate

39:46

this mister Invisible won't let him quit

39:49

because he needs someone to carry all his stuff

39:51

like the notebooks and the experiments. Because if

39:53

he were to carry them himself, people would see the notebooks

39:55

just floating down the street. I mean, it's a

39:57

regular person to carry his stuff. Right.

39:59

But what if he ate them?

40:02

Then they had to sort of hover here until they turn into

40:04

shit. Remember? So

40:06

that's a bad idea. But

40:08

Marvel's not keen on the idea. And even when

40:10

Marvel's like, quote, I'm really bad,

40:12

honestly, you can do better. The

40:15

invisible man won't let him leave. So

40:17

he twists marbles on behind his back and even

40:19

threatens to kill him if he breaks the invisible

40:21

man's trust. He really

40:23

begins to show his angry and violent side over

40:25

these chapters.

40:27

Marvel manages to briefly escape however

40:29

and runs into a pub called the

40:31

jolly cricketer.

40:33

Oh, that's nice. Why is it

40:36

screaming that there's an invisible man after

40:38

him and they've got to let him in and lock the

40:40

door. By now, the news of the invisible

40:42

man has hit the papers, so this isn't received with the

40:44

suspicion that you'd think it was. They're

40:46

like, alright. They let him in, but

40:48

they also let him the invisible man.

40:51

That's the first thing of my image. No. He's

40:54

there. Right. Hot on his heels.

40:57

And he's like, Marvel, you betrayed my trust.

40:59

So a brawl breaks out after the invisible man

41:01

attacks Marvel. And one of the

41:04

guys that the pope actually pulls out a gun and fires

41:06

at where he thinks the invisible man

41:08

is. It's such a bad eye.

41:10

It's such a clearly bad eye.

41:12

And he goes, I'm sure I hit him. I'm sure

41:14

I hit him. And

41:16

the feeling's

41:17

got a gun problem.

41:18

Yeah. I don't

41:20

feel safe out there. I wanted

41:22

the jolly crickin' oh, I want it to, but I,

41:24

you know, I'd be afraid of getting

41:26

shot. Honestly, not

41:29

good enough. Well,

41:32

if I had a gun to the guys like, I swear I got him

41:34

to start feeling around for the dead body.

41:36

But I can't feel him anyway. Yes, sir.

41:39

Blood would be invisible as well if if he did

41:41

not.

41:41

Yeah. Sure. Oh, wow. You'll find

41:43

out now. So The story

41:45

inside the veins, it's invisible. Yeah.

41:47

But outside the veins, it's visible. Mhmm.

41:50

Maybe if you sign with piss and

41:51

shit, Yeah. Maybe inside the veins

41:53

that's invisible. Well,

41:56

blood blood isn't red unless it oxidizes.

41:59

So maybe maybe it's the oxygen because

42:01

the oxygen is a is a

42:04

is a throughout of the body. That's the

42:06

visible thing. Right. So when the blood

42:09

contacts the

42:09

oxygen, then you get to see it. That makes

42:11

sense. Or is that the scientist on

42:13

on-site with a thing?

42:15

The the the shit we would see though. You would see

42:17

this shit hanging around. Yeah.

42:19

Let's

42:20

talk bit of corn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This

42:22

is just floating there. Sorry.

42:28

The story then cuts to the house

42:30

of a man called doctor Kemp.

42:33

It's a new charity here, doctor Kemp. A

42:35

wealthy old doctor who he is some shots ring

42:37

out at the nearby pub for jolly crickets.

42:40

Just moments earlier, he'd been reading the newspaper

42:42

that included accounts of an invisible man, and

42:44

he laughed how stupid people are

42:46

for believing this sort of stuff. Invisible

42:49

Man, as if that could be true, then there's

42:51

a ring at the door. But his servant

42:53

reports that when she opened

42:54

it, no one was there or

42:58

were there? Nick Nockers.

43:00

Yeah. Do you have Nick knocking

43:02

here? What? No,

43:04

do we? I mean, we're

43:06

up with Monday, but I've never heard this. Nickknockers.

43:10

What? Yeah. So I said, like, as a prank

43:11

yvonne,

43:12

knockers. Yeah. Yeah. What do you call that?

43:15

What? Knock

43:17

down ginger. Yeah.

43:19

That's the most English thing you oh,

43:22

knock down ginger. I'm

43:25

never I'm learning so much. Knockdown

43:28

ginger. Wow. And what that'smology of that is?

43:32

Sorry? Nokador

43:35

Ron. Yeah. Ron.

43:39

Nokador and Ron. I think that's a very literal

43:41

description of Oh, yeah.

43:43

You're just describing what you're doing there. Okay?

43:45

Yeah. So

43:47

no one's there or one of those. He goes

43:49

to the door, no one there. Because walking

43:52

back into his room, doctor Kemp notices some

43:54

blood on the floor that he swears wasn't

43:57

there before. Suspicious.

44:00

Yeah. There's also some blood in the doorknob. He's

44:02

like, didn't think that was there before.

44:05

When he gets back into his bedroom, he sees some

44:07

floating bloody

44:08

bandages. And he's like, I

44:10

could have sworn it when I left those bandages.

44:13

They weren't just floating in here. Something's

44:16

happening here. He

44:18

hears a voice that tells him not to panic.

44:21

It's the invisible man who addresses doctor

44:23

Kemp by his name. That's because

44:25

he actually knows Kemp. He's

44:27

accidentally stumbled into the doctor's house looking

44:30

for medical supplies and

44:31

realized, hey, I actually know that

44:33

guy who is doctor Kam. He

44:36

tells the doctor that his name is Griffin.

44:39

He's the invisible man, the stranger, his

44:41

name is

44:41

Griffin. And they

44:43

went to school together. The doctor can't

44:45

place him. He's like Griffin. So

44:48

Griffin says, I was couple of years below you.

44:50

He's like, no. He starts describing yourself.

44:52

He's he's like, I won a medal for chemistry at

44:55

University of College, and he cut I think the

44:57

doctor pretends to admit. For

44:58

him, basically. At that point, there's a lot of

45:00

pressure on him to remember this guy. You know, there's a lot

45:02

of stake. He's an invisible murderous man.

45:05

Oh, y'all are

45:05

small. Yay. Yeah.

45:08

Lehigh was a big family. Yeah. It wasn't invisible

45:10

but Griffin says that

45:12

he needs the doctor's help because people are after him,

45:14

and then his partner stole his money,

45:17

That's a lie, but he's like, you know, he's trying

45:19

to win over doctor Kemp. Kemp agrees to give

45:21

him a room for the night and gives him his words that he won't

45:23

tell anyone about the stranger's presence. But

45:28

the What Griffin says, with Camp's

45:30

help, we can work together to further

45:32

my research, she says. Basically

45:34

asked him to partner with

45:35

him. With his his science.

45:37

Griffin goes for a sleep and camps bedroom and

45:39

locks the door, which is pretty rude, kicking

45:41

a man out of his bedroom. He's exhausted,

45:44

but thankfully, the bullet just grazed his

45:46

wrists so he's not dying. But that's where the blood

45:48

is

45:48

from. And apparently, when the blood drips out, he explains

45:50

it coagulates and that's why he

45:52

can save the blood. Hey.

45:54

Coagulates. Yeah. So it just

45:56

gets like sticky. Yeah. So pulls

45:59

and then then slowly turns into

46:01

just normal

46:02

blood. Okay. Yeah.

46:03

I think he's kinda glazing over a few Yeah.

46:05

Yeah. Yeah. There is a there's a lot of that.

46:08

Whilst Griffin slept in his room Kemp

46:10

reads the newspaper articles again about an invisible

46:12

man terrorizing people and decides to write

46:14

a letter to a guy called colonel Adai,

46:17

We don't know what he says in the letter, but we might

46:19

come to that later. That's

46:22

a camp. It's written a letter. Okay.

46:24

The next day Griffin explains to camp how

46:26

he became invisible. This is how it how

46:29

old Griffin was a medical student at the same time

46:31

as doctor Kemp, but he switched to physics

46:33

because he was interested in light and became up

46:35

assessed with finding out a way to make

46:37

objects invisible. He

46:39

left London and six years ago

46:41

and became a teacher and a student, but more importantly,

46:43

he continued his research into making

46:45

stuff invisible. He got close to

46:47

working out of way, but he was worried someone would

46:49

steal his idea. He thought that his

46:52

professor at the university where he worked

46:54

would try and claim co credit. And

46:56

he's like, I'm not giving that guy co credit.

46:59

So he went off on his own. He spent three years

47:01

researching and he needed money to continue

47:03

this

47:03

research. So he stole from his father. But

47:06

this is tragic. It turns out the money didn't belong

47:08

to his father, so his dad shot himself.

47:12

This is awful. Then there is

47:14

no explanation about where the money came from

47:16

or anything further. That's

47:19

not on Griffin. That's not on

47:20

Griffin. He wasn't to know. He didn't know. Yeah. didn't

47:23

know. But he does say to

47:24

doctor Kemp, I don't feel bad about

47:26

it. But he doesn't

47:30

have to be a dick about it.

47:33

So he's not a great person. It's not a great person.

47:36

After that, he moved into a cheap boarding house

47:38

in London where he continued his experiments. The

47:40

boarding house was set to be in a slum near

47:43

Great Portland Street. Oh.

47:46

Where we are today? Crazy. So

47:48

we're in the slum right now.

47:50

Needs to be slums here. Yeah. It's also

47:52

shiny. Yeah. What amazing

47:55

that we are here.

47:56

Where that was? So he first he he

47:59

came out with his theater. I can make self invisible. He first

48:01

tested it on a piece of wall, which

48:03

is not that exciting. And then

48:05

he's like, great. I made that disappear. How about I

48:07

make this cat disappear. His

48:10

neighbor's cat wandered into his house.

48:12

And he's like, alright. Well, he he made it completely

48:14

invisible except for the

48:15

eyes. Which just

48:17

sort of floated along, which

48:20

is a little bit weird. How does he describe how he's

48:22

administering them visible? Is it a cream? Is

48:25

it like

48:26

it's a topical solution? Yeah. There's

48:28

a

48:28

liquidy type

48:29

of thing -- Yeah. -- affected area. So

48:31

it's like, is it a pace or something? Has he said?

48:33

Or is it like pill.

48:35

No. I think he applies it to the area -- Oh, yeah.

48:37

-- and so slowly bit by bit becomes

48:39

invisible. Yeah. He set to the

48:40

eyes. Yeah. But, like, bombing the eyes

48:42

would be horrible. Yeah. That'd

48:44

be unpleasant. We saw the visible man's

48:46

eyes invisible.

48:48

Yes. They are invisible. He got He's he's done

48:50

his eyes. Yeah. He got better at it somehow. Yeah.

48:52

Okay. Guess,

48:53

maybe it's like putting into contact. But first, you're like, oh,

48:55

yes. But I forgot because he's he's

48:57

fine. Didn't because he didn't before I say

48:59

that he he had a shallow eye

49:02

sockets. What does that what does that

49:04

mean?

49:04

I think that there there's nothing behind there.

49:06

She was looking into it. Wouldn't that be deep

49:08

eye sockets? But what's

49:12

what's fellow eye sockets just means sort of your

49:14

eyeball is very flushed with your face.

49:16

Right. Ryan and deepmind suckers is is

49:19

recessed into your skull model. Right.

49:21

So maybe, is this answering your

49:23

question? Yes.

49:31

So I guess it's easier. I guess it's easier. I guess it's

49:33

easier. Maybe it's because it's easier if

49:35

you have the shallow eye sockets, because then you just you

49:37

put the paste on the one sort of swoosh.

49:40

Whereas if you had deep eye sockets, you'd have to kind of

49:42

go in there. Oh, yeah. I'm

49:44

not saying it's pleasant. I'm just saying these are the harsh

49:46

realities of being an invisible man. Just

49:49

think about 88.

49:51

So he makes the cat invisible, but

49:53

then the cat's owner becomes suspicious. He's

49:56

like, you've done something to my cat.

49:59

And she reports him to the landlord saying, I think

50:02

this guy killed my cat and he's like, I swear I didn't kill

50:04

your cat. He's just invisible. And

50:07

then the landlord's like, you've been doing weird experiments

50:10

in their killing cats. I'm gonna evict

50:12

you. And then he lashes

50:14

out and like beats the landlord. And

50:16

then he's like, oh my god, I'm gonna get arrested, the

50:18

heat's on. I need to disappear somehow.

50:21

What can I do?

50:23

I'll quickly make myself invisible. And

50:25

then I'll burn down the apartment

50:30

to cover my tracks. Yeah.

50:32

That was a good idea. The police just turned up. The

50:34

whole place has been

50:35

down. Well, nothing to see here, I guess. Fossil

50:38

our boys. Just

50:41

a run-in the mill burnt out shell. Yeah.

50:43

This is fun. I

50:45

can't get over these cat eyes. Like

50:48

at the we said, like, can you just see the front

50:50

of them or you see the whole ball and then

50:52

the, you know, the tube thing at the back?

50:55

Flowing through the air? I'm seeing the ball. Yeah. I'm seeing

50:57

that the two balls floating around. Like, if like,

50:59

a video game hasn't loaded properly. You

51:01

know, it's like this ball. As eyeballs

51:03

fooling around. Would you see the the blink?

51:07

Oh, yeah. Or

51:11

when when the cat blinks to the eyelids make

51:13

it disappear. Oh,

51:15

no. But now that you'd oh my god.

51:18

You're biting my mind

51:19

here. So he makes himself a visual that first

51:21

he thinks it's so it's great. Think of all the

51:23

fun and mischief I can get up to.

51:26

But, you know, he goes up to people,

51:28

for example, in the street and knocks someone's hat off.

51:31

Just a bit of fun. I feel like after you've burned

51:33

down an apartment,

51:35

knocking your guys hat off is gonna step back.

51:39

You're gonna set that hat on fire or something.

51:43

But guys, being invisible has its drawbacks

51:45

too. First of all, he complains that

51:47

his feet are invisible, so it's hard to walk downstairs.

51:51

You gotta watch where you're going. Don't

51:55

you need to look at your feet when you're going downstairs?

51:57

I think

51:58

if they weren't there, it would be bit of a strange feeling.

52:01

But

52:02

you're not looking a lot of the time, aren't you?

52:04

Yeah.

52:07

Yeah.

52:07

Right? You just feel it. Wouldn't you? You just feel

52:09

it. Yeah. I think you feel it. I

52:11

mean, this is not helping us just trying to figure

52:14

out what? We're all just acting out

52:16

of walk here. It's

52:18

almost just like slippery that I'm looking at

52:20

my feet going down steps.

52:22

Usually, III back myself.

52:24

Yeah. I can feel this I'll feel this.

52:26

Yeah.

52:26

I'm good at it until I'm thinking about it. It's

52:28

having only a few times that I've been going downstairs

52:30

and I'm like, wait.

52:33

Oh, no.

52:33

Now I'm in my head about this.

52:35

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

52:36

So maybe that's what's happening. He's

52:38

also aware of himself. Yeah.

52:42

Now

52:42

do you know that's gonna happen? Later

52:44

today. Oh, no. Well, no. There are

52:46

some stairs down there. I'll know. Dogs

52:51

also notice his smells. We have to avoid

52:53

dogs. Because they just start sniffing the air and he's

52:55

like, he can't wear clothes

52:57

if he wants to stay unseen. And in England,

52:59

that means being very cold all the time.

53:02

And he gets the sniffles. Oh,

53:05

that's what he knows. It becomes visible. Is

53:07

it? No. can't.

53:10

No. But it but he does sneeze a lot and that's

53:12

bad because people hear sneeze from where

53:14

did that come from?

53:16

Yeah. We don't like hear sneeze in in the ingress.

53:18

We're very angry.

53:19

Yeah. Yeah. You hate the sneeze. Wouldn't you just

53:21

assume it's a ghost

53:22

in England? Yeah.

53:24

We just assume it's a ghost and move on with that day. Yeah.

53:26

Yeah. This is a ghost. Thumbola.

53:28

It's a very haunted country in Europe, do

53:30

you

53:30

think? Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Most of people have

53:33

died here. Yeah.

53:35

Second Rippa died here.

53:36

Yeah. The papery killed.

53:39

Sorry. Yeah. He could go on. Yeah.

53:41

He also can't wear shoes than us to make sure

53:44

not to cut his feet on surfaces.

53:47

And his footsteps can be seen as

53:49

as can snow when it builds up on his body.

53:51

So kinda think about it more than he thought he would

53:53

he had to also navigating crowds in

53:55

London as difficult. So it's a bit of a nightmare, but

53:57

he did come up with an ingenious way to cover his

54:00

face, he broke into a theatrical supply

54:02

shop in London and stole a fake

54:04

nose. So that's what the plastic

54:06

nose is from

54:07

a start. The owner is ingenious.

54:11

It didn't go through your quiet appointment because the

54:13

owner of the costume shop almost caught

54:15

him and pulled out a gun when it kept

54:17

hearing noises in his

54:18

store, they've

54:19

got a gun problem

54:20

here. That's all you know. They've also got

54:22

guns back in the day. Yeah. But Griffin

54:24

knocked him out and tied him up. So

54:27

Problem solved. Griffin's,

54:30

like, knuckles at this point, must be red.

54:32

Yeah. He punched so many people.

54:34

All he's punch it. I mean, no. You he's

54:36

not gonna gloves on because they'd be visible. He's this

54:38

bare knuckle knuckles. Yeah. How

54:41

is it not just blood? How how is his bloody

54:43

knuckles? No offense? Just floating bloody knuckles.

54:45

Yeah. That's terrifying. He

54:47

then went to Iping where our story started

54:49

and hoped to work quietly in his room to try and find

54:52

a cure that would reverse his invisible but

54:54

before he could find a cure, the stupid

54:56

townsfolk interrupted him. Now

54:58

with doctor Kim's help, remember he's talking to

55:00

doctor Kemp's house, he plans to get revenge

55:03

and go on a reign of terror. And

55:05

Kim's like, sorry, what?

55:09

I'm hoping you too. What? Was

55:11

it revenge on re revenge on who? He's

55:13

he's done every he's done all the bad

55:14

stuff. Isn't he?

55:15

Yeah. But he's anyone who's wronged him.

55:18

Right. Okay. But Marvel didn't

55:20

help him and No.

55:22

that's harsh. Marvel really tried his

55:24

Yeah. He's hard his bet. Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna go on

55:26

revenge against the world So they're

55:28

in doctor Kemp study where remember

55:31

Griffin, the invisible man has been telling the story

55:33

and revealing his extremely dark side. And Griffin

55:35

thinks he can hear someone approaching, but doctor Kim's

55:38

like, I can't hear anything. Sit

55:40

down and don't look out the windows. Never

55:43

me. Griffin

55:45

realizes that doctor Kemp has also

55:47

betrayed

55:48

him. And he's furious and

55:50

also sad.

55:52

So he's putting his math on the list. Oh,

55:55

no. You can see the tears. And

55:58

there's only one thing to do. He starts to

56:00

strip. Doctor

56:06

Kemp tries to capture him before he

56:08

becomes fully invisible. And even when

56:10

aided by three men including colonel

56:12

Adai, the police captain new got Kemp's

56:14

letter, they fail and

56:16

griffin escapes he gets fully

56:19

nude and wanders away. Getting naked

56:21

is stripping is such like a funny, like,

56:23

ritual that a supervillain has to do.

56:26

Oh, you're gonna regret this. No,

56:29

no, no, no, no, no,

56:33

no, no. I'm not the socks.

56:42

So he runs away. Doctor Camp tells the police

56:44

Griffin is in and plans on going on

56:46

a violent spree. We've got to track him down.

56:49

We can probably use some dogs. He

56:51

says, but they're too late, at least for

56:53

one man called Wickstead, who

56:55

soon found murdered by the invisible man.

56:58

There aren't any witnesses who were not a hundred percent sure

57:00

what happened, but they do know that it was

57:02

Griffin. So he's killed someone

57:04

now. And he confirms his bloodlust

57:06

when he sends a letter the next day, which

57:08

is kind of his manifesto it reads.

57:11

The game is only beginning. There is

57:13

nothing for it, but to start the terror.

57:16

This announces the first day of the terror

57:18

This is day one of you one of the

57:20

new epoch, the epoch of

57:23

the invisible man. I

57:25

am invisible man, the first. To

57:29

begin with, the rule will be easy.

57:31

The first day, there will be one execution for

57:34

the sake of example, a man named

57:36

doctor Camp. Oh, no.

57:39

He's like, Kemp, he betrayed me. I'm gonna

57:41

kill you. So he marked doctor Kemp

57:43

as his first victim after Kemp

57:45

portrays him. He also sends the letter without

57:47

a stamp. So Kemp has to receive

57:49

his own death threat, has to

57:51

pay, sorry, to receive his own death threat.

57:53

Which is brutal. There's a there's a really

57:55

there's a thing here with no stamp, you'd have to pay, like,

57:57

two pairs to get it delivered.

58:00

He's like, oh, no worries. The mail for me, Fantastico

58:02

opens it up, and it's like, no.

58:05

It's the

58:05

new epoch. This

58:07

is awful. So

58:10

camp blocks himself in his house with a revolver

58:12

and tells the police that

58:14

he's gonna use himself as bait. But

58:17

Griffin, the invisible man finds out and just

58:19

starts smashing all the windows of the house.

58:22

And I, the police officer pulls gun and goes

58:24

after Griffin. But again, this is not the best

58:26

idea, and of course Griffin easily grabs

58:28

the gun and shoots Adai.

58:33

Oh. Adai. Yeah. He's the police officer there.

58:35

He's like, I'll sort him out. I've got I'm a

58:37

cop. I've got my

58:38

gun. Of course, he soon as he pulls it out, the

58:40

invisible act just grabs it and

58:42

shits him. I

58:43

indicated it in I thought cops don't have

58:45

guns here. Not

58:47

anymore, not for this department. Yeah. But

58:50

just in case it's invisible, man. Very,

58:54

very embarrassing

58:56

year for you for the mat. It is

58:58

exactly because doctor Kemp sees you.

59:00

Look at the window and sees this and runs away from

59:02

his house. Pursued by the invisible

59:04

man or he assumes he's pursued by the invisible

59:06

man. Kemp tries to get help from his neighbor,

59:09

but they locked the door and refused to let

59:11

him in. Wait. Wait. Wait.

59:13

So who's locked where? To so doctor

59:15

Kemp's like, alright. He now

59:17

Griffin, the invisible man's got a

59:19

gun. I should run away.

59:20

Okay. So he's brings to his neighbor's house. He's like,

59:22

let me in let me in, but they're just like,

59:24

no. He's

59:26

like banging on the door. There's an invisible man out

59:28

here. So he just keeps running because that's all can

59:30

do. And he sees some road workers up

59:32

ahead, and he also them, I'm being chased

59:34

by an invisible man. And

59:36

then, oh, you dial in and then give me little bit slower.

59:41

You're all just

59:46

Griffin, the invisible man grabs doctor

59:48

Kemp, but one of the road workers, wildly

59:51

swings his shovel, and it

59:53

hits Griffin. Sucky?

59:55

And doctor Kemp knows this because he he had

59:57

Griffin had his hand around Kemp's throat,

1:00:00

but it suddenly loosens and falls away

1:00:02

because he's been hit with a shovel.

1:00:05

Then a crowd descends. The town

1:00:07

shows. Here they are. Yeah. The calories

1:00:09

are right. Yeah. To the moment. And they start

1:00:11

just kicking the shit out. Out of where they think the invisible

1:00:14

man is on the ground. Just talking a lot of air

1:00:16

stomping. I love mob

1:00:18

justice. Yeah. Bring it back. Bring it

1:00:20

back. And he's now he's down and out.

1:00:22

Doctor Kemp says, stop. Stop. You're gonna kill

1:00:24

him, but it's too late because he checks the

1:00:26

invisible man man's body and he's not breathing.

1:00:30

He's now dead. And with the crowd still watching

1:00:32

on, the body starts to slowly

1:00:34

become visible again. The

1:00:36

effects wear off. And, yes, he is

1:00:38

still naked of his fur. There's

1:00:40

a crowd standing by and naked man is slowly

1:00:43

appearing. Oh, in the cold as well.

1:00:45

Yeah. No. I'm in a

1:00:47

scenario. Yeah. Oh

1:00:49

my

1:00:49

god. And

1:00:50

it takes so small. One

1:00:53

way to go. Eventually someone

1:00:55

pulls it out of sheet and they cover the body.

1:00:57

Cover the deck. Yeah. A small

1:00:59

sheet. That's a

1:01:01

face washer. Yeah. We

1:01:05

then cut to an epilogue that that was added

1:01:07

to the novel version. It's not in the original magazine

1:01:09

version. So if you wanna stay true to the magazine

1:01:11

version, stop the podcast now, but this is the

1:01:13

novel epilogue. It had to do in

1:01:16

the room. But Yeah.

1:01:18

Block your ears out

1:01:19

there. In the epilogue, mister Marvel,

1:01:21

the trap from earlier on has opened a

1:01:23

bar slash called the invisible

1:01:26

man. Mhmm. He's really cashed in

1:01:29

on the story. He got to keep some of the

1:01:31

money that the invisible man stolen because I couldn't

1:01:33

prove that it was stolen. So he used that to start a bar,

1:01:35

and he also makes a guinea a night for telling

1:01:37

and performing his story of the invisible

1:01:39

man. So he puts on a one man show each night.

1:01:41

That's great. He's got his little fringe, Randy.

1:01:43

Yeah. A little fringe ready. Yeah. Yeah.

1:01:46

Puts himself on, is that pub still

1:01:48

around? The invisible man.

1:01:50

Yeah. You can't you can't you

1:01:53

can't see it. Yeah. It's seven. People

1:01:55

like it. People like doctor Kemp

1:01:58

have come looking for the books that contain the invisible

1:02:00

events and notes and the the siren of how

1:02:02

to be invisible. But mister Kemp tells him

1:02:04

I don't know where they are. They got lost, but

1:02:07

that's a lie. He has them. And every

1:02:09

Sunday morning, he has a ritual where

1:02:11

he closes the blinds brings

1:02:13

out the books and just looks at them thinking

1:02:16

about what he'd do if he was

1:02:17

invisible, but he's not a science

1:02:19

man at all. So there's no way he's gonna work it

1:02:21

out. So that's all he does. He goes in there.

1:02:24

He says he doesn't even become invisible. He goes in there,

1:02:26

closes the blinds, and goes, hey. Yeah.

1:02:28

And he people knew what was

1:02:30

doing in here, and he just calmly reads.

1:02:32

Yeah. I mean, a lot of people knew the things

1:02:34

I was imagining. Right? Well,

1:02:37

the final line

1:02:38

is, quoting from

1:02:40

mister Marvel, Once I get the whole

1:02:42

of them, Lord, I

1:02:44

wouldn't do what he did. I just

1:02:46

well, then he pulled

1:02:48

out pulls out his pipe.

1:02:52

Oh god. When you say pulls out his pipe.

1:02:54

Yeah. Yeah. That's poppin'

1:02:58

so to speak. The final

1:03:01

line of the invisible man is so he lapses

1:03:03

into a dream, the undying wonderful

1:03:05

dream of his life. And though Kemp,

1:03:08

has fissed unceasingly, no

1:03:10

human beings saved the landlord knows

1:03:13

those books of air with the subtle

1:03:15

secret of invisibility and a dozen

1:03:17

other strange secrets written therein.

1:03:20

And none other will know of them until

1:03:22

he dies. They

1:03:25

and the visible

1:03:27

man. There

1:03:33

is a She Wells.

1:03:36

Really good stuff. Do you

1:03:39

want

1:03:39

that?

1:03:42

Yeah. Really good. For me, h d stands for

1:03:44

Hal Good Wells. Hal Good. How

1:03:46

was that? What what do you think of

1:03:48

that? Wrapped up the story. Was it what

1:03:50

you were expecting, Phil, from the movie sort of stuff

1:03:52

you know about? I I was expecting

1:03:54

an invisible man and boy did

1:03:56

the book. Delivery. Yeah. Yeah. We came through.

1:03:59

We came

1:03:59

through. Yeah. A lot more guns than I thought it'd

1:04:01

be. I'm very happy to see a

1:04:03

mob as always.

1:04:05

A few mobs in there. Mean, it's it's essentially

1:04:07

Frankenstein isn't it. Frankenstein is about the

1:04:09

creator of a monster, has a destroys a monster. But

1:04:11

I guess he he's the doctor

1:04:14

Francis Frankenstein and the monster -- Mhmm.

1:04:16

-- he creates himself and then seeks to destroy

1:04:18

the monsters created by doing

1:04:20

so he's killed by

1:04:22

the mob, which they do in Frankenstein as

1:04:24

well. That's that's my literate

1:04:27

term. That's good habitation. Thank you, Brian.

1:04:29

That's good stuff. Come on. That's because I just

1:04:31

couldn't think of a gag, so thought I'd

1:04:34

Well, Matt, how about Does it remind you any books

1:04:36

that you've been reading? Yes. It

1:04:38

does. It reminds

1:04:40

me of trying to think of a book thinking

1:04:44

of, yes, where's Wally?

1:04:46

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He has

1:04:48

to if you can't say and where is

1:04:50

he? Yes. It's just like that.

1:04:53

There's a mob. There's always a mob. There's always a mob.

1:04:55

Yeah. There's always too many people. Yeah.

1:04:58

I'd love to just one who wears one. But

1:05:00

the mom's just beating one each of them.

1:05:02

And he's, like, on the ground. And I love it.

1:05:06

Mean, blood is like red and white.

1:05:14

Well, the only thing left to do is we always

1:05:16

give it a score out of five as as you've

1:05:18

heard it here today.

1:05:20

So, Phil, what would you give the invisible man?

1:05:22

Out of five. Well, with these classic books, I always

1:05:25

find you have to you have to judge them on two sort

1:05:27

of scales. One is the quality and enjoyment of

1:05:29

actually reading it. Which tends to be quite low,

1:05:31

to be honest. I'm like, I've cut that bit out

1:05:33

for you. Absolutely. But but but then

1:05:35

you're thinking about the legacy. It's such an important

1:05:37

book, you know. And it's it's it's,

1:05:40

you know, it's created so much stuff since that's

1:05:42

part of our our cultural

1:05:43

life. So I'm gonna give it

1:05:45

a four

1:05:47

Alright. Fantastic. Oh, five.

1:05:49

Yeah. Also, I like I like how action

1:05:51

packed it is. I like how you punch it. I find this

1:05:53

very funny that these punches

1:05:54

everything. I I just aren't able.

1:05:56

No. I'm not so funny. I'm just funny that's

1:05:59

punching everyone. And is that

1:06:01

the visual of someone being punched

1:06:03

with a hand you can't see. So just so I'm going, oh.

1:06:07

And then, like, you know, obviously, in the movies, they just

1:06:09

fake it. That's funny. It's just classic

1:06:11

slapstick. Yeah. Yeah. So I I really

1:06:13

like it for that. I I like the

1:06:15

simplicity of how he's just a murderous asshole.

1:06:18

There's a problem with my modern story, especially with

1:06:20

all these origin movies. I rather deville origin

1:06:22

is that we don't want to know why

1:06:24

these people are dickheads. I

1:06:26

just show me the dickhead. Yeah.

1:06:29

Just make them be dickheads. It's enough. don't

1:06:31

even know why the dickens and this is this is h

1:06:33

g Wells has nailed that. He's just a dickhead.

1:06:36

True and true. Thank you. Still

1:06:38

lying. Thank you so much.

1:06:43

And Matt, how are you feeling? Yeah. No. I

1:06:45

think everything Phil said there was a spot

1:06:47

on. Guys a dickhead,

1:06:50

I like that. Yeah. I don't

1:06:52

know what it's doesn't feel like horror

1:06:54

to

1:06:54

me. Like, I can't see how that'd be

1:06:56

turned into a scary movie.

1:06:59

Yeah. Yeah. I guess if you're getting hit in the face, it's

1:07:01

kinda hard. Because just feels like things floating

1:07:04

is funny. It's

1:07:05

funny. This

1:07:05

is my problem with this man as horror story.

1:07:07

It's mainly funny to me.

1:07:08

Yeah. Like, a man grabs heat. Like in all the movies,

1:07:11

it's like the way to Pete is just a man covered

1:07:13

in bandages with sunglasses

1:07:14

on. It's funny. That's funny.

1:07:17

Yeah. That's three and a half stars. Yeah. Okay.

1:07:20

For the comedy,

1:07:22

which I find a gun violence to be

1:07:24

very funny. Yeah. So

1:07:27

four from Phil three and a half from Matt. I'm gonna give it a

1:07:29

four as well. Now we always give the I

1:07:31

really I did enjoy reading it. Always

1:07:33

get the audience at the live shows to give

1:07:35

us a gratified and you get to vote with applause.

1:07:38

So, speak now or forever. Hold your

1:07:40

school. Give me around with applause. You think that was

1:07:42

A1A1

1:07:46

cloud. Fantastic. I'm

1:07:49

not taking personally. Okay. This one.

1:07:52

Renmin was for two. Okay.

1:07:55

We're gonna be here a long time, aren't we? Hey,

1:07:58

Dave, you said you took that personally.

1:08:01

You've just summarize the book.

1:08:03

Yeah. Yeah. And I try to make

1:08:05

it entertaining. And I got a

1:08:07

one. It's all

1:08:09

good. 220, we've got, like, two boot clapping

1:08:12

three out of five.

1:08:15

Okay. Pol I very polite. Four out of

1:08:17

five. Alright.

1:08:19

Pretty good.

1:08:21

Anyone give it four marks five out

1:08:23

of five. few

1:08:26

people really really enjoy that cable. I think it's a

1:08:28

four from the audience. I mark that down in my spreadsheet,

1:08:31

which doesn't

1:08:32

exist. Okay. Will let us bring

1:08:34

us to the end of the podcast. Thank you so much, Phil and Matt,

1:08:36

for joining me on bookkeeping. Thank you for

1:08:38

having me. It's such a blast. Fantastic.

1:08:47

And for the people in the room, well, for people who don't

1:08:49

feel working people find, do you have anything coming up? Do you like to

1:08:51

tell people at home about Oh, yes. I'm I'm

1:08:53

on tour in the UK starting

1:08:56

in spring of twenty twenty three, UK and

1:08:58

Ireland. Ireland for the first time?

1:09:00

Yeah. Oh,

1:09:00

Texas. Yeah.

1:09:01

It'd be real fun. Yeah. God, fantastic. One more time

1:09:03

I'm filling in. Thanks.

1:09:13

And Matt, can people find you?

1:09:17

This is a big drop off, isn't it? But

1:09:20

I don't know whether you guys can follow me on my podcast.

1:09:22

Who knew it, Matt Stewart. Dave's been a guest on

1:09:25

it a few times recently, and

1:09:27

I'm gonna be at the Adelaide

1:09:29

fringe. Vessel and Melbourne comedy

1:09:31

festival doing when you showed dinged.

1:09:36

Yeah.

1:09:38

Right. I'm gonna

1:09:40

be there too. My show

1:09:43

is called even hotter in real life. So

1:09:45

going down. It's the live crowd can attest

1:09:47

to that. Absolutely. Thank you so

1:09:50

much for calling us over, mister

1:09:51

Stewart.

1:10:00

We want to thank the venue 229

1:10:02

for having seen Alessandro and Sandowicz as

1:10:04

a best job. Thank you so much for your round of applause.

1:10:10

At the end of the show, I always yelled

1:10:12

books forever, so please feel free to

1:10:15

to join in with me now. On the can of three. Thanks

1:10:17

so much. And until next week, I'll say 123.

1:10:20

Welcome. Awesome.

1:10:22

Thanks so much. Bye bye.

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