The fourth episode in a series of Podcasts where James Baker of Bootworks Theatre speaks with a number of children's performance makers and producers about their work.

In this episode James chats with renowned artist, writer and curator Andy Field whose work LookOut invites audiences to imagine a future alongside a child – whilst gazing out upon a rooftop cityscape.

We discuss the skill involved in chatting to kids, the future of the theatre phenomenon that is Forest Fringe and reminisce about a time that James climbed a ladder for an extremely long time in the name of art.

Music by Dougie Evans: www.dougieevans.com.