In this episode: 

Katie gets the scoop from Tara, a Forbes 30 under 30 alum, on how to actually make the list

Tara’s experience with applying (and no she didn’t pay to get in)

Why making the list isn’t all that as an entrepreneur 

How the 30 under 30 campaign is a money making machine for Forbes 

How to use your ego to drive growth for business in legal ways (unlike Sam Bankman Fried)

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