0:00

My internet cord done come loose. Wait, what?

0:02

We were sitting here mic checking and doing

0:04

our, we do a little beep to

0:07

sync this podcast before we start for people who don't

0:09

know. It's how Thrift Heart made

0:11

a thing that beeps with the

0:13

internet times. Our beeps are in

0:15

sync, which makes it easy. Turns out

0:17

for us to sync up the conversation. Yes. Thanks

0:20

to an enterprising member of our community. Anyway,

0:22

I was tilting my head to

0:24

hold the phone up the microphone to beep as we did,

0:27

as we always do. Yeah. The

0:29

fiber is swaying in the breeze. Oh

0:31

no. Have we talked about this before?

0:33

No. Is it hanging? Like, hold

0:36

on. Your window looks out on the street, right?

0:38

Oh no. This window looks out on the fire

0:40

escape. Oh. It looks out on

0:42

the other unit on this floor in this building,

0:45

which used to be my bedroom. I used to live in the other

0:47

unit on this floor. I lived in a one bedroom on this floor.

0:49

Really? Yes. And

0:52

then at some point the couple in this two bedroom that we're

0:54

in vacated. And you just moved down the hall? And

0:56

I had the easiest moving experience of my life and

0:59

about 15 feet down the hall. That's

1:03

incredible. I had no idea. Yes. But

1:06

now this office that I do all my work in here looks

1:08

out on my former bedroom window. Anyway,

1:10

it's a little like cut out fire escape. There's

1:12

a full on ladder and everything. The

1:14

fiber runs into this room. And it's just loose.

1:17

It's not like tacked up to the wall or anything.

1:19

It's always been loose. So when Sonic installed the

1:21

fiber here in 2016, like I was here, you

1:24

know, the guy was just like, Hey, what room do you want

1:26

the fiber to run into? I was like, Oh, the office where

1:28

I work when my computer is would be good. He

1:30

kind of just threw it over the top of the building. Okay.

1:34

And it just runs from

1:36

the roof down the side of two

1:38

floors from the roof. Yeah. Unattached

1:41

to anything. How does that make you feel? Until it terminates

1:43

in the place where he like ran it through, he drilled

1:45

a hole in the wall and ran it through. Wow.

1:48

Anyway, how are you feeling about that? Does that make you

1:50

feel good or not so much? A couple of times I've

1:52

gone out there. I have these little stick on, um, these

1:54

little stick on like plastic things I got from Ono Price

1:56

that are meant to run a zip tie through. It's

1:59

just a. adhesive backing. Yeah, it's like a

2:01

square with a little notch through the top.

2:04

Yeah. I've zip tied it to the

2:06

side of the building with those a couple of times, but every time

2:08

it rains a lot, as it has again recently, those things come right

2:10

off. Oh boy. You know what you need.

2:12

What's that? Nano tape. Well,

2:14

it's a weird shingled, it's like a

2:16

dappled or ridged kind of shingle siding

2:19

on the building, so I don't think nano tape would

2:21

stick very well. But like all your

2:24

common household adhesive things are also not going to stand

2:26

up to the elements. You need one of those 3M

2:28

goos, like one of the ones that's like a permanent,

2:30

it's like a gray kind of squishy thing that as

2:32

soon as it gets exposed to the air, it starts

2:34

to harden up and you just jam it on there.

2:36

It's going to glue on forever. Do you think I

2:38

need to ask the landlord before I do that? He's

2:40

going to tell you no. I know. So

2:43

I shouldn't ask. This is a forgiveness situation, not

2:45

a permission, I think. I think you're right. Or,

2:47

you know, maybe that's, maybe that cable

2:49

is very resilient. It's very thin. It's

2:52

a very thin, skinny, seemingly brittle cable.

2:54

I mean, it's fiber. Of course it's

2:56

brittle. Like, I don't

2:58

like my internet flying around in the wind. I

3:00

mean, the scary thing about this seems to like

3:02

if there's roofers or something that come in to

3:04

work on something else unrelated to the fiber, they

3:07

could very easily be the modern

3:09

equivalent of a backhoe on the May

3:11

West pipeline, May's pipeline shutting

3:13

down internet for two thirds of the country.

3:15

Yeah. Yeah. This is

3:18

a precarious situation. Actually, thinking back to the install the day he

3:20

got here, I had to wait like, I

3:22

don't know, a month or something. Those were fiber. Fiber was new

3:24

in the city at that time. Yeah, you were the first person

3:26

I knew with fiber, I think. You remember when I got fiber,

3:28

how excited was it? It was a,

3:30

look, I was like, hey, can I come

3:32

over to your house and try it? And you were like, no, you

3:35

can't come over. I'm sorry. That did not

3:37

happen for the record. Yeah, no, that did that.

3:39

No, I didn't ask. You didn't deny. That conversation

3:41

never took place. The

3:44

day he installed it, I had to wait like a month. And

3:46

I was actually about to go out of the country then

3:48

for like two days later. Is this a giant bomb already

3:50

or was this before that? Yeah, it was 2016. Okay.

3:53

Not only was I about to leave the country for

3:55

a week, also as the detail left out, they were

3:58

repaving the street that day. And

4:00

they were literally at the end of the block, like we're about

4:02

to start working their way up. And he was like, Hey, by

4:04

the way, I just talked to these road guys. Like they say,

4:06

I have to be out of here in like 90 minutes. Oh,

4:09

wow. And if I don't get this done before they tell

4:11

me I have to leave, you have

4:14

to go to the back of the queue for installs.

4:16

What? He couldn't just park on another block, which is

4:18

like several months long at this point. I think he

4:20

is. I think his truck had one of those like

4:22

the extending arm, you know, bucket or something. Yeah, because

4:24

he had to go to the pole. Got it. He

4:26

wasn't just using ladders. Oh, wow. He needed his truck

4:28

to do the install. And essentially

4:31

he was like, Hey, if I don't get this installed

4:33

in the next hour or so, you're going to have

4:35

to wait another three or four months for this. So

4:37

like, please do what you can to get this done.

4:39

It goes fast as you can, man. So I'll stay

4:41

out of your way and tipped him heavily. But

4:44

I think that may be why the line is

4:46

unsecured on top of the building. I feel like

4:48

I feel like having a real time pressure on

4:50

that is going to add some tension and stress.

4:52

It is not necessary, you know, but it was

4:54

very exciting when he said he came in and

4:56

he was like, All right, you're good to go.

4:58

But now I have the situation. You could just tack

5:00

it on there. Wait until the landlord's out. Stick a

5:03

thumbtack through. Get some nails. No, don't stick it. I'm

5:05

joking. Get the little loops. You get the half loops

5:07

with the nail on the side. Just bop, bop, bop,

5:09

three of them in. You're good to go. That's how

5:11

they did my fiber to the wall. I don't know

5:13

what the siding is made out of, but sticking nails in

5:15

it seems like a bad idea. Yeah,

5:18

it's probably fine. Like, like what's the worst

5:20

thing that could happen? Some Looney Tunes nonsense

5:22

where like the coyote gets the fiber hooked

5:24

up to him and he runs away and

5:26

like pulls everybody on the streets fiber out

5:28

of their houses. Oh, my God. I'll I'll

5:30

be right back. Welcome

6:02

to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod. I'm Will.

6:05

I'm Brad. It is a rainy

6:08

Saturday here in the Bay

6:10

Area. It is. Man, it's been pouring.

6:12

I think I'm done... I think I... Like,

6:15

having spent some time in the desert in the summer and

6:17

seeing what real storms are like there, I don't really like

6:19

that. But I do like being warm, it turns out. Warm

6:21

is nice. I don't... I

6:23

don't think... I think I'm tired of living

6:26

someplace where it's this kind of miserable and wet all

6:28

the time. Well, not all the time. Let's

6:31

be specific here. Only eight months a year.

6:34

We're in the rainy season right now. You know what, frankly,

6:36

I'm happy the rainy season is back because we didn't have

6:38

it for some years. Look, this

6:41

is a hot take. I don't know that I'm as big

6:43

a fan of the rainy season as you are, Brad. Well,

6:45

I don't know if I'd say I'm a fan of it,

6:47

but it's a necessary evil. Look, I

6:49

like the state not burning and I like having

6:51

water. Not so much a

6:53

fan of the 90 days of

6:55

rain or whatever it is we're in right now.

6:57

I mean, you know what I like though is

6:59

all the parks around here are absolutely gorgeous after

7:02

this much rain because they're usually brown and dead

7:04

and desiccated. Have you gone walking in

7:06

one though? Because my... Oh yeah. They're

7:08

like my backyard and front yard. They're like two inches deep

7:10

of mud right now. Well, I mean once it dries, you

7:12

know, I get a few days. But like I just... I

7:15

walked by Golden Gate Park the other day and it is

7:17

an explosion of green right now. I

7:19

had to wheel my trash cans back in last night after

7:21

another inch of rain and I was like,

7:24

I think I have to lift up the cans

7:26

so they don't dig ruts in my yard. And

7:29

like anyway... This might be one

7:31

of those cases where not being a homeowner makes this

7:33

a little more palatable. Yeah. Like

7:37

there's a lot of stress that comes with... Just

7:39

to be clear, we're not talking about like

7:42

baby rain sprinkles or anything like that. We're

7:45

getting like one or two inches of rain per storm,

7:47

which sometimes is like a day. Sometimes it's like three.

7:49

Sometimes it's up to four inches. I think this next

7:51

one is supposed to be worse than the last one.

7:54

So it's like... It's gonna rain like all week. I

7:56

think I just saw. Isn't it here? Yeah. And

7:59

most of the dirt here does not absorb. water at that like

8:01

that kind of water like we have we

8:03

have like my house is on basically clay

8:05

so it it absorbs for a little bit

8:07

and then it just gets saturated and everything

8:10

turns into a swamp so it's

8:12

it's it's a it's a lot yeah it

8:15

is but at least at least theoretically maybe

8:17

the state won't burn again this fall so

8:19

that's good yes let's uh hang

8:22

on I got a segue you know what

8:24

else is a lot PC

8:26

game settings huh yeah

8:28

we had a discord user OS to

8:31

X or OS 10 you think it's

8:33

it's capital O lowercase sx is that

8:35

Oz X so yeah you could you

8:37

could actually be known to pronounce that

8:39

medically I'd certainly I miss

8:41

the days when we got to say OS 10

8:44

I hate I hate this transition

8:46

to back to Mac OS you just bring

8:48

that bring that energy over to 10 the

8:50

successor to Twitter god

8:52

damn it um OS X

8:54

said I would

8:56

love an episode about tuning PC games advanced graphic

8:58

settings some sample topics we come to mind our

9:01

DLSS 2 & 3 FSR 1 2 & 3

9:05

X ESS what does the sharpness lighter

9:07

do under these options do I need

9:09

to manually lower the in-game resolution for

9:11

them to upscale correctly what is SSAO

9:13

how do various variable refresh rate technologies

9:15

interact with v-sync and do I need

9:17

to turn it off v-sync I assume

9:19

in each game how can I verify

9:21

it's working what if I have multiple

9:23

monitors this is a good question

9:25

it turns out well OS X I'm glad you

9:27

asked we we have

9:29

been digging in and I've done

9:31

we've done a lot of reading I'm gonna say

9:33

and watching videos and and a lot of stuff

9:36

turns out PC game settings

9:38

kind of complicated most of the time

9:40

yeah yeah but but knowable I would

9:42

say they're not they're not they're not

9:44

so arcane that we can't unpack them

9:46

with full research yeah and I mean

9:48

the thing to remember and

9:50

like we like to peel the onion here and start

9:52

with the easy part first and go to the complicated

9:54

stuff later is that if you don't really care all

9:57

that much you can just load up the GeForce experience

9:59

or radio on settings app on your computer

10:01

and hit the button that says, make this pretty good.

10:04

Like hit the optimize button. And

10:06

it'll give you like, it'll usually

10:08

what they do is they use

10:11

the profiling data they have from testing games

10:14

to look at what the hardware is in your

10:16

system and they find a spec, a comp, the

10:19

closest comp in their database. And

10:21

then they put you settings that'll hit run

10:23

you at 60 frames a second. It is

10:26

the general guideline. So

10:28

I do that for

10:30

almost everything, except

10:33

for competitive shooters and

10:35

stuff with lots of ray tracing settings. See, this is

10:37

the difference between you and me. Look

10:40

I have a kid and like two and a half jobs.

10:43

I don't have time to think around. If I want to

10:45

ever play games, I have to just get into it. I

10:47

get it. Yes. I

10:49

mean, I also have like two and a half jobs. I don't have a kid though, to be fair.

10:53

I don't install Geforce experience. Why

10:55

not Brad? I, I just

10:57

don't feel like I need it. Well,

10:59

actually to be more specific, there are too many other overlays

11:01

already and I know you can disable parts. I just turn

11:03

off the overlay. Yeah. Like I know you can

11:05

turn parts of that off, but like there's

11:08

already the steam overlay. There's already game bar. I

11:10

wish you could turn off game bar. Game bar is

11:12

way better than it used to be. Have you used it lately? Yeah.

11:15

The little, I've used when we were doing profiling stuff on

11:17

the end increases, I used it because that overlay with the

11:20

frame rate data was pretty useful. Yeah. The

11:22

thing, honestly, the thing I like about Geforce experience and

11:24

sometimes if I'm troubleshooting perf stuff, I will

11:26

turn on the overlay because they have the 1%

11:28

frame rate. They

11:31

met, they report the frames

11:34

per second of the slowest 1% of

11:36

frames in real time. They try real time. The

11:38

1% lows. That's pretty useful, which

11:40

is maybe the most useful like real time

11:42

feature ever. It lets you know when you're

11:44

having a bad starter. Anyway, the

11:46

point is if you don't

11:49

care about this stuff, you can just skip

11:51

this entire episode basically and mash the optimized

11:53

button in Radeon settings or Geforce experience and

11:55

get something that's pretty good. Intel

11:58

has been leaning in this direction more too. I'm

12:00

not sure what they've got for their art cards

12:02

for their for their GPU stuff, but they rolled

12:04

out a tool for their CPUs What

12:06

is it? The name is escaping

12:08

me. It's more for

12:10

tuning CPU stuff. I want to say

12:12

I don't want to have to tune CPU

12:14

stuff to Brad. I just want to like start the game and

12:17

play the game and not think About this stuff. That's

12:19

my dream Application optimizer. I believe is the

12:21

name of it. I was trying to figure out what the

12:24

P stood for but it's one of those things where the

12:26

a and the P came from the same word. Oh Anyway,

12:30

this is getting a little tangential to the actual

12:32

topic of this episode, but like CPU

12:34

tweaking has gotten really interesting I don't know if

12:36

you've paid much attention to what Intel named you're both

12:38

doing where They both have

12:40

ways of identifying like which cores are the good

12:43

cores on your specific chip Yeah,

12:45

you know because just straight up variants

12:47

and manufacturing like silicon lottery style Everybody's cores

12:49

are going to be of different quality. So

12:51

it'll like actually tell you like, okay These

12:54

are the cores on your CPU that actually run the

12:56

fastest and it will will buy us toward those type

12:58

stuff Maybe I need to do run that on my

13:00

computer because I have to clock down to 52 X

13:02

on my 13 900 K To

13:06

get fortnight to not crash a lot

13:08

basically because of the memory corruption stuff

13:11

Anyway, so I'll say real quick before we

13:13

move back to graphics at launch APO was

13:15

just for 14th gen Okay,

13:17

but this headline I have just pulled from two weeks

13:19

ago. It makes it sound like they are going to

13:23

Roll it back roll it back at least at least to some

13:25

extent to 12 and 13 Same

13:28

socket anyway, yes So

13:30

yeah, the but from here on we're gonna go

13:32

down like we're gonna answer these questions from Oz

13:35

X or OS X. Yeah we

13:38

also went through and pulled some screenshots

13:40

from Kelly current

13:42

games cyberpunk Alan Wake fortnight The

13:46

Prince of Persia ones were comically thin I think I

13:48

think there's a couple others in there But and we'll

13:50

kind of go down the settings and explain what is

13:52

the perf? like what what stuff is

13:54

gonna really hit your perp what stuff doesn't matter as much and

13:58

Explain what some of the stuff means Yes. Yeah,

14:00

I threw Baldur's Gate 3 in there. It was

14:02

nice, I didn't see that. And the finals and

14:05

stuff, there was a bunch in there. But we

14:07

will, I will, people seem to like it a

14:09

couple weeks ago when we published the Google

14:12

Doc that we used for the show. Yeah.

14:14

So I will do that again. We have all those

14:16

images embedded in there. I hate the way the Google

14:18

Docs handles image embeds, which

14:20

is to say that it's

14:23

kind of hard. It's not easy to get

14:25

the full-size version of the images out. Hold

14:27

down Control. And then mouse

14:30

forward, mouse wheel forward. And then take a screenshot

14:32

of the document. That's how you get it out

14:34

of there. Yes. Well, so actually, have you ever

14:36

used this Google Docs Publish to Web feature? It's

14:38

really nice. That's what I used when we did

14:41

this a couple weeks ago. And

14:43

it just makes an HTML, like an HTML with an

14:45

image holder or something? Yes. When you go to Share

14:47

now, there's an option. Instead of sharing a link to

14:49

the Doc, you can hit Publish to Web. And it'll

14:51

just, yeah, like you said, it'll make a foot it.

14:54

It generates a link. Although, I should

14:56

probably make a short URL What's your

14:58

favorite URL shortener these days? Content.town.

15:02

Oh. I haven't actually

15:04

done it yet. But I've been looking at things I can

15:06

put on there that will generate short URLs.

15:08

That would be cool. We should do that. That

15:10

would be a good one. Anyway, so I mean,

15:12

you can scale that HTML-based version that we will

15:15

link in the show notes as well to see

15:17

the screenshots. It's a little hard to re-align the

15:19

settings up to default image size. But yeah.

15:22

Or you can zoom in also if you don't care. That's

15:24

what I mean. The Control mouse wheel up and

15:27

down tip applies there as well. So

15:29

let's get into it. The first thing, the

15:32

big one these days, this is a hot

15:34

button topic that everybody cares about because the

15:36

graphics vendors are in a

15:38

full ass war over super sampling

15:40

these days. Super

15:43

sampling is the idea that you take,

15:46

it used to be the idea that you render, take

15:48

the resolution that you're running and then

15:50

you render it up at like,

15:52

so say you want to run at 1080p, you

15:55

used to run it at 4K and

15:58

then you'd take each four. Every

16:00

four pixels on on the

16:02

on the the forte version

16:04

would get combine like mathematically

16:06

averaged. And you'd get. A.

16:08

Teddy P. image that as it has like smoother

16:10

edges and all the kind of the benefits of

16:12

super sampling. Zola we that's not what it does

16:14

anymore. It turns out that he would do that.

16:16

And games are You have a lot of have

16:18

room to spare like does me too For example

16:20

you could ease you do that on like a

16:23

ten even when the game as models that you

16:25

know it's it's a bit older will have a

16:27

as one lightweight enough with the are you and

16:29

and that obvious of that results in a much

16:31

cleaner image. but also yeah. Now that

16:33

you mentioned that is what Super Sampling

16:35

used to be stopped moving undiluted. Technically,

16:37

what we're doing now which is the

16:39

reverse direction still counts as super sampling,

16:41

but whatever. So that the thing that

16:43

the reason they call super sampling is

16:45

because what they're doing is they're generating

16:48

the four pixels with machine learning now

16:50

and damn despair and then dividing the

16:52

than combining them without doing their job.

16:54

Upsize render anyway. I'm dissing. That

16:56

doesn't mean I used to sell for deal us

16:58

as these at this is deal of a deal

17:00

Ss and Fs are and X E S s

17:02

on. And D M D

17:04

and Intel respectively. And and the thing

17:06

that they do as they're using these

17:09

two upscale in a way that doesn't

17:11

that adds more information. New get was

17:13

just straight up scaling. I'm.

17:16

As he sees him basically render the game

17:18

at a lower resolution, upscale it using these

17:20

technologies, and then get the benefit of the

17:22

higher resolution. Most of the benefit the higher

17:24

resolution at the frame rate of the lower

17:26

resolution. Guess and this is is me. This

17:28

this is the prototypical example of the good

17:30

use of Ai her machine where again I've

17:32

talked about recently where it's this is a

17:34

signal processing kind of a ivory taking an

17:37

input. And doing something to with

17:39

and you can do as well without the I

17:41

like this is this is the good type of

17:43

a I use a jaunt the mop up a

17:45

gentleman's agreement both centered of but it's not pal

17:47

hundred of yeah well time guess is not in

17:50

your eyes he generate yes you're you're right. it

17:52

is technically interpreted as generating new image rebirth of

17:54

it's it's free. North of the dataset a trade

17:56

off of is just footage of Games organ data

17:58

on games yeah to running. Different

18:00

think I'm so. The

18:03

upshot is that that.

18:06

Is three different vet There's three vendors

18:08

posts there's that is three vendor supported

18:10

options. couldn't deal, assesses in video is

18:12

actually assesses Intel and end our Ssr

18:15

as a D is generally speaking you're

18:17

better off using the one that goes

18:19

with your card. If that's an option

18:21

of ya need video card use deal

18:23

us as if you have an A

18:26

D card Usaf has are if you

18:28

have an Intel card use use Fcs

18:30

ask the The reason for that is

18:32

that on the ones that are Ml

18:34

accelerated. That. Use did dead at

18:36

that are the deal as as an

18:39

ex Css use the dedicated machine learning

18:41

acceleration hardware on those cards to that

18:43

means they don't take resources away from

18:45

the graphics rendering as much as said

18:48

say like running our computer chair would

18:50

rate. It

18:53

doesn't seem like that impacts Sci efforts are as

18:55

much because it just uses computers on all hardware.

18:57

Yeah, Was a D tends to like you're like

18:59

platform agnostic or spur features, which I I appreciate,

19:02

but there is a negative. The negative is that

19:04

you're taking resources away from the game as the

19:06

games Friday's sentences history. On the other yeah that

19:08

that's why they've been out there. Him a ballyhoo

19:11

in like a of Us are works on all

19:13

hardware is because it runs in a generic enough

19:15

way that the Us when pretty much where you

19:17

just said and sound like as or Three which

19:20

is not that old. Might.

19:22

Have some very the like light hooks and some

19:24

seen wearing. More from from

19:26

what I've what round out but but by the with your

19:28

point is that way game These. Machine

19:30

whirring hardware efforts are just kind of behind

19:32

it day. They have not done a bunch

19:35

of platform or vendor specific stuff. It seems

19:37

like they're the I think I like their.

19:39

I think they're acquisition of Xilinx several years

19:41

ago is what was intended to address their.

19:45

Oh they're They're being behind the May I race so

19:47

and in fact I think they've made a bunch of

19:49

announcements about like the next raisins and the next. Everything

19:51

they're doing is gonna have a bunch of. A

19:54

bunch of Ai hardware in it, but there are quite

19:56

there yet it's it's own. Seems like they're pretty well

19:58

on the past. the. Yeah. So

20:00

so anyway the upshot is used the when

20:03

you have if you don't have one. I

20:05

think it's. Efforts or Two

20:07

and three Year or two is a

20:09

subset of three. So too does the

20:12

that the physically for acting of resolutions

20:14

in the same way that deal as

20:16

as does I'm one of us or

20:19

one it has terrible image quality problems

20:21

that I don't think anybody's do so

20:23

many circumstances they did some weird stuff,

20:26

it just didn't work particularly well. I'm

20:28

too much better. It's odd it with

20:30

all of almost all of these things

20:33

when you look at like the digital

20:35

foundry like a. Comparison in games

20:37

his support both. They. Both

20:39

fail in different ways of vote. Both

20:41

fail in interesting ways that you probably

20:44

not going to notice in an actual

20:46

game. So for example, deal as as

20:48

is better at polling overlay. stuff like

20:50

text rendered on the on the on

20:52

the game world. For

20:55

fire like they're kind of does to

20:57

d textures that make up most fire

20:59

Vfx stuff like that I'm it does

21:01

will be better with that. Efforts

21:03

are does better with most of so it like. Now.

21:07

Generally speaking use the when the your hardware support

21:09

see if it video to advance a deal as

21:11

as as feel as as only works on into

21:13

the hardware now so. I'm and we've

21:15

gotten very good and also if we should say

21:18

as avoids the always as three point five and

21:20

is extremely capable of yeah they they do they

21:22

do me a to I don't I can't see

21:24

as much named he succeeded Sport of us are

21:26

on and a crisis that with deal us as

21:28

they look at what you implement and they're like

21:30

hey we noticed some ghosting year or something like

21:33

that and they'll say you know if you if

21:35

your hair is ghosting if your hair is rendered

21:37

in this way you may want to use this

21:39

version of the model and said this version the

21:41

model and they'll even bake stuff our special for

21:43

you if if you did if he. Kneeled Vector

21:45

help. Now. I'm I'm not gonna point

21:48

as I have agreed with my mother's for reporting

21:50

white. I've really much always turn it on, even

21:52

if it's a game like. I'm quite

21:54

sure I could run a neat rows response. Yet

21:57

so I have a three hundred sixty Hertz displays. I always have

21:59

a turn. Like definitely have to

22:01

smoke A But also I often don't run

22:03

games at the full frame rate because it's

22:05

It's nice to have it running slower Said:

22:08

doesn't spend up all the fans and the

22:10

computer. Sure, I'm. Anyway, So.

22:13

Did the two things that happened recently.

22:15

Yards with Deal as a Three Point

22:17

Five and Diaz and efforts are three

22:19

different generations. so three of us are

22:21

three is a super set of to.

22:23

It's basically to plus frame generation feel.

22:25

As for as Three Point Five is

22:27

is three with frame generation I think

22:29

the Deal Us has three south only

22:31

worth three and new are only works

22:33

on the Ada. Four. Thousand Series

22:35

cards think that's right. Yes, I believe

22:38

Frame Generation we runs on. For.

22:40

That it frames and reasons part of three

22:42

point know. If. I'm honestly I

22:44

really was better than Three Point Five subheads

22:46

the path, tracing all that spirit, retracing re

22:48

reconstruction amory, every reconstruction of a so. This.

22:52

Is where he gets complicated because if you

22:54

have a to series card or three series

22:56

card from in video you might want to

22:58

framed generation that comes with Apis Arts, Three.

23:01

Which is not supported on your card. on on

23:03

the deal as a side. I'm.

23:06

The the weird thing about. Frame.

23:09

Generation is you want to

23:11

have on both sides. A.

23:14

Sixty. Frames per second Render.

23:17

After. the of scaling so

23:19

after the deal us as to an

23:21

end of us are to stuff happens

23:23

before you start doing the frame generations

23:25

otherwise you get some weird aren't affecting

23:27

that. That is pretty noticeable in my

23:29

experience. so this isn't gonna have a

23:31

bull. It can effectively

23:33

double your frame rate in some

23:35

cases. But. You

23:37

have to already be running at sixty frames

23:40

per second in order for that to work.

23:42

So years this is. This is basically for

23:44

getting high refresh rates on I read monitors

23:46

on lower specs cards Now. I'm

23:48

due due to do you use fringe a reason

23:50

as a matter of course. very much so as

23:53

to say the problem with frame generation is that

23:55

increases input latency. Yeah, that's that's my question to

23:57

buy. I've only uses enough to I try it.

24:00

This five minutes of time into for

24:02

games like I don't, I don't, I

24:04

haven't you cycling? I seriously play a

24:06

game and so wonder what the perceptual

24:08

the fact is over time as you

24:10

get used to it or not. and

24:12

also what? What's I got How babbling

24:14

the actually is. So digital Digital Foundry

24:16

day. I didn't do that. Messing about

24:18

this earlier last year. I guess I

24:20

made last year when the suffers new

24:22

and and they're they're that. the the

24:24

way that both aimed in and video.

24:26

I try to counter the though latency though

24:28

it though the basically it's input to pixel

24:31

the lag as or talk about the times

24:33

when you make make your input choice and

24:35

know though change registries on screen so for

24:37

example pulling the trigger and the gun shooting.

24:40

I'm. It they they use

24:42

and buddies reflex i am d's

24:44

thing called anti lag that are

24:46

basically the same thing that that

24:48

and that basically they weren't they

24:50

to. Frames. So

24:52

that you don't render too many frames in

24:55

advance, which helps minimize that lag. Now.

24:58

With those technologies are with reflects on

25:00

and with anti lag on this it's

25:03

pretty middle was like seventeen set, seventy

25:05

millisecond, sorts of almost negligible. a pretty

25:07

much impossible with sex for most people.

25:10

I. Don't use for a i wouldn't you

25:12

stream generation anything. That's that's competitive. I'm.

25:16

I probably also wouldn't use frame generation of

25:18

i play on mouse and keyboard in my

25:20

experience to like when I was playing cyber

25:22

punk on mouse and keyboard didn't feel great

25:24

when I space ever buchan the game had

25:26

didn't notice a difference so he had kind

25:29

of silliness of the the the direct. My

25:32

expectation with a mouse is that there's.

25:35

Be a pixel. The pixel a

25:37

precision on a mouse movements. And

25:39

on the game pad I'm used to feeling a

25:42

little flowed year which didn't. Didn't

25:44

really impact my experience much. I'm

25:46

to the so that's that's the deal that's

25:48

the super sampling. Like. That's it. Super

25:51

sampling going to make your performance better. It.

25:53

Is it's with it's a weird choice for name's

25:55

super simple used to make your games or and

25:58

slow as l. So. I

26:01

generally, if I'm playing at 1080p and I'm playing a

26:04

multiplayer game, I set it to the performance mode, we

26:06

should explain what this means. So

26:08

I assume, that's a question from OSX here, I

26:10

assume by slider they're referring to the, and actually

26:12

I think some games do depict it as a

26:15

slider, the DLSS presets, the kind of

26:18

named presets, like quality, balance,

26:20

performance, ultra performance, what do

26:22

those mean? And those presets are

26:24

actually defined by Nvidia, they ask you to,

26:26

when you set up your settings

26:28

in your game, they ask you to make sure that they align

26:31

with what their, what players

26:33

expectations are, so that they're the same across

26:35

the board. Yeah, so those basically have specific

26:37

meanings for what size of image is being

26:39

rendered under the hood before it is then

26:41

upsampled to your output resolution, for example 4K?

26:44

Yeah, so on ultra performance you're upscaling from 7,

26:47

assuming you're running at 4K, ultra performance

26:50

you're upscaling from 720p to 4K,

26:52

which means you're rendering 11% of the pixels

26:54

on the screen for real, and then making the

26:56

other 90, 89% with DLSS. Yeah,

27:00

and in my experience if you've tried ultra performance you

27:03

can see that. Yeah, ultra

27:05

performance usually feels pretty muddy.

27:07

As you can imagine with

27:09

barely over a tenth of the actual pixel data to

27:12

work from, like you're, there's only so much you can

27:14

do. Yeah, a performance mode is upscaling

27:16

from 1080p to 4K, which means you're rendering 25% of

27:18

the pixels and generating the other 75%, and balanced is

27:20

from 1253p, which I didn't actually

27:27

put in the spreadsheet, so I don't know what the percentage is. 33%

27:30

I believe? That

27:32

seems right, split the difference. And

27:35

then quality is 44% of

27:37

pixels, it's rendering from 1440p up to 4K. Yes.

27:42

Or, you know, maybe an easier way

27:44

to think about that is, again, this

27:46

is all assuming you're outputting a 4K,

27:48

this is all trickled down from what

27:50

output resolution you're talking about, but at

27:52

4K, for example, quality means

27:54

you're doing a 1440p under the performance So

28:00

I believe performance is the one that would be

28:02

told to 1080p and I don't I don't have

28:04

the settings for 1080p or 1440p

28:06

in front of you, but I believe that the resolutions I

28:09

Don't I don't believe it's the same percentages across

28:11

the board. Oh, I thought

28:13

the percentages were fixed. I Think

28:16

that's right. Yeah, cuz like the whole Alan way to

28:18

controversy is the thing you saw people screaming Was

28:21

that they said at? at

28:24

1080p Performance deal says performance

28:26

you would get all the law 30 frames or whatever

28:28

it was But I swear that's where you saw the

28:30

Jillian people running around screaming like oh, so you can

28:32

only render at 540p. What the hell? So

28:36

that would make sense. Yeah, so I think I think I think

28:39

The percentage percentages are fixed on these

28:41

presets and that's all just the LSS

28:43

obviously Until an AMD are going

28:46

to have different different different

28:48

things going on. Yeah, the thing I'll

28:50

say is as a 1080p player Ultra

28:53

performance always looks real bad. I assume it's

28:55

because you're starting with like like 1990s resolutions

28:59

And and going up from there. Yeah Quality

29:02

on 1080p is great.

29:05

I run quality a lot. Anyway, um,

29:08

Let's see What other questions from OS X was

29:10

do you do I need to manually lower the

29:12

in-game resolution for them to upscale? No, you set

29:14

the resolution that you want generally you should set

29:16

the resolution for what your monitor is hard hard

29:18

Like the resolution of your monitor. Yeah native native

29:23

And as you said a minute ago Brad a

29:25

lot of games will actually show you what the

29:28

internal rendering res is I Think

29:32

X CSS lets you set the internal rendering

29:34

resolution rather than a quality profile or percentage

29:36

interesting That might be something that is

29:38

a per game Setting though cuz I've

29:40

seen it both ways. I think on X CSS. Okay,

29:43

so even for DLSS I'll just mention Alan wait to

29:45

is as an outlier here where they don't use the

29:47

names Of those precepts.

29:49

Well, just they just show they let you

29:51

pick the internal render resolution Okay,

29:53

but without the game running in front of me I can't

29:56

say for sure but I think I think all you're doing

29:58

is picking those resolutions that would correspond to those presets

30:00

to begin with. So

30:02

that is a case where the answer in

30:05

this one specific case, the answer is yes, you do

30:07

have to pick the render resolution in Alan Wake 2.

30:09

But again, that's I think it's just, it's

30:12

just mapping to those presets without them

30:14

using the names of the presets. Anyway,

30:17

also, sorry, I forgot to mention a

30:19

lot of at least with the LSS, a lot of the

30:21

preset selection now just lets you just set it to auto,

30:24

which I assume is just so is just

30:26

targeting some performance target and it maybe is adjusting

30:28

it on the fly to try to maintain frame

30:30

rate. That

30:34

would make sense, I think. Yeah.

30:36

Okay, so the

30:39

next one is screen space is SSAO.

30:41

What is SSAO? It stands for screen

30:43

space ambient occlusion. Yes. And

30:45

it's a post, it's a post process effect. So it

30:47

happens after the scene has been rendered. And

30:50

it adds things like reflections

30:52

and shadows,

30:55

fuzzy shadows around the edges of things. Yeah.

30:57

So yeah, ambient occlusion basically is just a

30:59

bunch of fine shadowing and the cancranis anywhere

31:02

that like the ambient light

31:04

would be occluded by objects,

31:06

you know, so you got like a bench or whatever, there

31:09

should be little bits of shadow right behind where the

31:12

the seat and the railing and stuff would be occluding

31:14

the light. Screen

31:16

space effects, like you mentioned, like ambient occlusion

31:18

and reflection, reflections, rely

31:21

on data that is being generated as a

31:24

part of rendering what's already in frame.

31:26

Yeah. So if you've ever played a game where

31:29

you like sweep the camera around and you've got something

31:31

like a big pond or like glass that's reflecting stuff.

31:34

And as the thing that's being reflected moves out

31:36

of frame, you see those reflections vanishing at the

31:39

same time. But that's a screen space

31:41

effect that that is, that is essentially like the

31:43

engine no longer has the data it needs to

31:45

render those reflections because it's not rendering the source

31:47

objects in first place. It's all just like a

31:50

shortcut, like the screen space effects are just a

31:52

shortcut to use data that already exists per

31:54

frame to create additional effects without

31:56

because otherwise it would be like way,

31:59

Way, way too. Computationally expensive to

32:01

calculate those from scratch, so

32:03

sometimes you over render the

32:05

the asshole. I'm buggy over

32:07

under the actual screen space suit. Actual thing

32:10

that's been rendered is larger than sexually been

32:12

shown. Source of the you avoid that kind

32:14

of stuff. Yeah, Ah, But you

32:16

see it more on councils were they don't have as much

32:18

performance. Had room to work with. Get

32:20

And and I'm. The

32:22

needy about ambient occlusion. Sweet. cheaper than doing

32:25

it for real. Like. This is this is

32:27

a lot of the. Most. What we're

32:29

talking about say place to rest are games

32:31

are games that use a traditional the K

32:33

We're gonna have to draw a bunch of

32:35

texture is mapped over wire frames and then

32:37

we're going to put some other textures that

32:39

are serving like maps that indicate the light

32:41

in the dark areas and was rather textures

32:44

that include indicate like whether the surfaces bumpy

32:46

are smooth and and all the stuff we

32:48

were written however a tracy a little but

32:50

that changes. Like

32:52

right now we're using mostly kind of combined

32:54

rastering rate racing games. It's

32:57

is still the rate. Racing is changing. Basically

32:59

everything they were talking about here Kislyak as

33:01

a sale doesn't apply. For. Ray Tracing.

33:03

yeah yeah yeah, maybe seclusion am dumb. Reflections

33:05

are to places where are you don't need

33:08

the screen space versions of those effects anymore

33:10

because retracing just does those inherently. yeah and

33:12

edits also would say as a seo his

33:14

memory intense and expensive but also it's like

33:16

if you're having per problem is it's a

33:19

it's not a terrible thing to turn them

33:21

down although I actually only one ear abu

33:23

I don't know what I decided that that's

33:25

and like a full past racing kind of

33:27

scenario. You get all that stuff like there

33:30

are games that use race racing and more

33:32

winded ways. That would not cover those use

33:34

cases. Of Okay so

33:36

next he is very of a variable refresh rate.

33:38

This is confusing. This was confusing even for us

33:40

as we were researching this episode. Yeah I learn

33:42

stuff today. Yes when I when I built as

33:44

machine last year I have figured this out years

33:46

ago in the promptly forgot it as you often

33:48

do when you figure out some obscure settings friends

33:50

at them once, rape or into thats good. Good

33:52

for your brain to does let us have fall

33:54

away and it'll It'll change before the next time

33:56

you need a problem life with. of The one

33:58

thing I can say is definitely. Never document

34:00

anything to do. Know that guy. documentation for

34:02

Trump's is my understanding. What would that accomplish

34:04

by the way. Other so this is relatively

34:06

fresh and mind because I had a singer

34:08

the stuff out again. Last. Year This

34:11

is only role inferred from video is why. Been

34:13

using for years. I can speak to. Him

34:15

the an Intel here but the that question is.

34:18

Ah, I'm. Okay so it had a

34:20

variable refresh rate technologies and rak of the

34:22

think the first question do I need to

34:24

turn it off in each game saying sorry

34:26

I'm just a just generally speaking Blurb a

34:28

series is a great resource for this because

34:30

they do a ton of like hands on

34:32

research and aim high speed cameras. it monitors

34:34

and do all sorts of crazy stuff with

34:36

all the available hardware. So if you if

34:38

you have questions about a setup that we

34:40

are going talk about here today. Blur busters

34:43

is the is the is the number one

34:45

resource I think death. So the

34:47

the combo settings I have found on a

34:49

video that will consistently good variable refresh to

34:51

work is in the Nvidia control panel. Are

34:54

you wants you to rongi seek silicon? So there's

34:56

a setting under three settings called monitor technology. Which.

34:59

Will say D C Orgy scene compatible as

35:01

you'll have an actual dissing monitors. it's like

35:03

a freezing monorails. I compatible the at any

35:05

rate, You. Wanna turn on the adaptable

35:07

adaptive. Refreshed, Technology under

35:09

Your technology. And. Then you are

35:11

force to seen to on in the driver control

35:13

panel. And then thereafter you

35:15

always want to turn this thing off. In.

35:18

Every game that you're playing. Yeah because been

35:20

when you're having these the driver uses club.

35:22

he lets his overriding the games behavior with

35:25

the to her her global. Driver:

35:27

V sync and as the only way I

35:29

found to very consistently good variable refresh to

35:31

work and everything. This is one of the

35:33

benefits of using G Force Experience for the

35:35

south as it does. Does this email from

35:37

worry about it? ah in the in games

35:39

going wrong why we had worry about until

35:41

the third asked oh you do not buy

35:43

me need I? You don't have to go

35:45

into each game set and chaser so rice

35:47

or officer and yeah to turn off you

35:49

think I'm the the blurb us His explanation

35:51

of this is it the T Sinks ability

35:53

to fall back on us discs Refresh rate

35:55

V Sync behavior changed in. twenty fifteen when

35:58

they expose the option to to do

36:00

this. Right

36:02

now, because you see

36:04

both, people think that G-Sync and V-Sync are

36:06

separate options. But when G-Sync is enabled in

36:08

the control panel, the vertical sync option in

36:10

the control panel no longer acts as V-Sync

36:13

and actually dictates whether the G-Sync

36:16

module compensates for frame rate variances

36:18

by the system, which prevents

36:20

tearing. And

36:22

that's if G-Sync and V-Sync are off. If

36:25

G-Sync is on and V-Sync is off, this

36:27

is really confusing. This is a lot. I

36:29

think what you're saying, this is just arbitrary

36:31

Nvidia driver behavior. Like I said, you need

36:33

V-Sync on, but then once you enable G-Sync,

36:35

then it's going to use G-Sync as V-Sync

36:37

is what you're saying. Well, yeah, with V-Sync

36:39

on, in order, it

36:42

has to also have to do with the fallback for when you

36:45

get outside the range where V-Sync batteries. So once your G-Sync is

36:47

really for is

36:51

when you're running at less than the refresh rate

36:53

of the monitor. And

36:56

so basically,

36:58

the upshot is if you turn G-Sync on

37:01

and you turn V-Sync on, the driver just

37:03

handles and you don't have to worry about

37:05

all the other nonsense. The

37:07

other part of this is that if your game

37:10

has a frame limit and your game consistently runs

37:12

above the refresh rate of your monitor, you want

37:14

to set the frame limit to just below the

37:17

actual frame rate of the

37:20

refresh rate of the monitor to

37:22

reduce tearing, to make sure tearing never happens.

37:24

And it's like three to five frames a

37:26

second, usually. Yeah, for example, I have

37:28

a 144 Hertz monitor and I

37:30

set a 140 FPS cap in my drivers. Yeah,

37:33

well, you can also do that in the game as well, if

37:36

that's an option. The

37:38

other thing is that NVIDIA added a new

37:40

fast V-Sync option between the time the BlurBusters

37:42

article about G-Sync and V-Sync was written and

37:45

now. And you only

37:47

want to use that if your frame rate is

37:49

2x your refresh rate or more, and

37:52

you're probably not using G-Sync monitors. So

37:55

generally speaking, if you have a G-Sync monitor, you do

37:57

not turn on fast V-Sync. If you don't have a

37:59

V-Sync monitor, monitor, a G-Sync monitor, and

38:02

you're running. So if you have a 60

38:04

Hertz non-variable refresh rate monitor, and your

38:06

games are running at more than 2x, your

38:09

refresh rate of your monitor turning on the fast

38:11

one will give you benefits. I

38:13

can't imagine that there's a lot of people in

38:15

that situation that don't have G-Sync monitors or a

38:17

free-sync monitor at this point. That's almost certainly the

38:19

case. Brad, how can you tell if this is

38:21

working? Yeah, next question. How can I verify it's

38:23

working? Your monitor's on-screen display should

38:26

show you in real time the sync rate

38:28

fluctuating up and down. I can't imagine there

38:30

is a monitor that has adaptive

38:32

refresh that doesn't show it there, right? Mine

38:35

does. Yeah, my ASUS

38:37

monitors do. My TV does. Like, I think

38:39

just about everything that does some form of

38:41

variable refresh will just show you in the

38:44

display settings what it is at any given moment. I even

38:46

have a little thing that I can put the number in

38:48

the top right corner if I really want

38:51

to feel inadequate or excited about my

38:53

frame rate, depending on how things are

38:55

going. Ooh, I might have to look for that. One

38:57

of the other questions is, what if you have multiple monitors? So

39:01

from a frame rate perspective, Windows 11 and I

39:04

think 10, both can

39:06

run multiple monitors at independent resolutions

39:08

and refresh rates with no problem.

39:11

So like, my main monitor is running at 360 hertz. My

39:14

top monitor is running at 60 hertz. My right monitor

39:16

is running at 60 hertz. No problem. If

39:19

you're, say, using a two-PC streaming setup,

39:21

you can even mirror as long as

39:23

you mirror them in the right order and have the

39:26

refresh rate set before you do the mirroring. You can

39:28

set your main monitor, run it the video game resolution,

39:30

like the 144, 360 hertz, whatever. And

39:33

the capture card will still run at 60, and it will

39:36

just take every x frames to send

39:38

to the capture card. So that stuff works great. The

39:41

weird thing is that multiple monitors in

39:43

the past has really impacted performance. In

39:46

the pre-Windows 8 days, like Windows 7

39:49

is like the last generation of

39:51

desktop window manager and the early,

39:53

early stuff that started with Vista

39:56

and got better gradually over time. There

39:58

was a major performance. hit when you're running

40:00

full screen games and you

40:03

had stuff running on other monitors. It's

40:06

less of an issue with Windows 10 and 11. Linus Tech

40:09

Tips did a

40:12

video where they tested up to I think

40:15

four monitors with videos running full screen on the

40:17

other monitors while you played a game, which

40:20

showed that there was some impact, but I think

40:22

realistically nobody's going to be watching four videos at

40:24

once. You're much more likely to just have one

40:28

video and then some text like a guide

40:30

or something like that, you know, like just

40:32

static text, basically maybe images.

40:35

If you were concerned about it and if you're in perf

40:37

issues, you can use Win Plus P to

40:40

turn off your secondary monitors when you're

40:42

playing games really easily. Or

40:45

just hit the power switch. Also,

40:47

we should talk about game mode. On Windows 11,

40:49

there is a game mode setting that is

40:52

on by default. Most people don't ever have to change

40:54

it. It's worth checking. You can open

40:56

the settings panel and just type game mode

40:59

and it'll pop up. Basically what it does is

41:02

it does some pain in the ass

41:04

stuff like turns off notifications while you're playing

41:06

games, but the big one is that it

41:09

lets the window manager know that you play

41:11

games on this computer. So it handles full

41:13

screen games a little bit differently sometimes. Another

41:16

thing to know about here is full screen

41:18

versus borderless window or windowed if

41:20

you really want to play in a window, but only

41:22

weirdos play in windows unless it's

41:24

like vampire survivors or something maybe. I'm

41:27

judging them too. As the name

41:29

implies, borderless windowed means you're technically actually still

41:31

playing in a window. It just

41:34

is displaying the contents of the

41:36

window at full screen without scroll bars or title

41:38

bars or anything like that. So it looks like

41:40

it's full screen. You're still getting the benefit of

41:43

it being a windowed application, meaning you can all

41:45

tab in and out very cleanly. In

41:49

a lot of games, if you have a UI

41:51

menu up that gives you a mouse cursor, you

41:53

can just move it out of the window like

41:55

a normal ass application. The

41:58

problem... Is

42:00

that there again, this is a place where there used

42:02

to be a performance hit for doing the borderless window

42:04

thing Yeah, because in the exclusive full screen Windows

42:07

use in the old days windows would just say

42:10

hey, if this is all you

42:12

buddy, you got everything You got the GPU got the

42:14

CPU got we're turning off the window manager We're just

42:16

gonna let you do your stuff and then if you

42:18

wanted to say all tab It would minimize

42:20

the game the game would go away It

42:23

works. Definitely now and and back in the day This

42:25

is less of a thing now that people game out

42:27

there native monitor resolution more But if you're running in

42:29

a different video mode It would require like a whole

42:32

monitor video mode switch when you tab down and out

42:34

of the game Which was slow and clunky it still

42:36

does sometimes if you have a weird refresh rate monitor

42:38

like my a lot of games don't know to do

42:40

with my monitor sure and So

42:43

then like if you're if your games max refresh

42:45

rate setting is 144 Hertz It'll

42:48

just bump you down to 144 Hertz

42:50

on that monitor if you go in the exclusive full

42:52

screen mode Yeah, so yeah, like like like

42:54

we said borderless window avoids all those

42:56

annoying issues But but yes, there there

42:59

is or was a performance Delta at

43:01

some point So from so from a

43:03

survey I went through and searched reddit

43:06

for people complaining about borderless window and

43:08

nixtria an exclusive full-screen performance problems and

43:11

it seems like Pub G over

43:13

the years has been a game. You should probably play

43:15

an exclusive full-screen GTA 5

43:17

is a game that has a significant performance

43:19

boost running in borderless Huh

43:22

It's it's it seemed all

43:25

over the place on what's faster and what's slower

43:27

in full screen or Borderless

43:29

and of course it's important to note like

43:31

the convenience of not having to like mode

43:34

shift the monitor when you switch in and

43:36

out Of the game is substantial. So yes,

43:38

I Would just test

43:40

on game by game basis for the game. So

43:42

you're playing. Yeah. Yeah, I will throw in I've

43:44

had a lot better luck getting variable refresh to

43:46

work reliably in full-screen modes than with borderless like

43:48

the video control panel Does let you turn on?

43:51

Variable refresh for for windowed applications,

43:54

but it seems a lot less reliable

43:56

in my experience Are you so

43:58

I've had the it's funny. I've had opposite experience because

44:00

usually it works pretty well. My

44:03

desktop is always working in the variable refresh mode and

44:05

it just, if the game works then

44:07

the desktop works when you're in borderless. I mean if

44:09

the desktop works then the game works when you're in

44:11

borderless and makes it interesting. Interesting. Yeah.

44:14

One other tidbit I threw in here and this actually I got this

44:16

from the Discord a year or two ago. This

44:18

was fascinating I thought. Yeah. So this happened I

44:20

believe sometime after Windows 10 came out. Microsoft

44:23

rolled out a feature and this is a very under

44:25

the hood thing. They call it full

44:27

screen optimizations which actually means, and

44:29

I think there is a way to disable this, but it's

44:31

on by default, it means that if you tell a game

44:34

to run in full screen it thinks

44:36

it's running in full screen but Windows actually

44:38

is kind of intercepting it and there's some

44:40

kind of best of both worlds like abstraction

44:42

layer happening where it's like the game is

44:44

doing what it would be doing in full

44:46

screen but they are still like Windows

44:48

has still got some kind of compatibility layer where

44:50

it's also making it easier to all tab in

44:52

and out and stuff like that. You can read

44:55

this blog post I linked if you want

44:57

to know more about the technical details but

44:59

the idea there is to try to kind

45:01

of capture the best benefits of both modes.

45:03

Yeah. The desktop window manager is the thing

45:05

that handles rendering everything on the desktop generally

45:07

except for exclusive full screen apps. So the

45:09

fact that they pulled this in, you can

45:11

disable this in the launch options in the

45:13

compatibility tab for pretty much every executable on

45:17

your computer. I think

45:19

it is literally called full screen disable full

45:21

screen optimizations. Okay. There we go. I've had

45:23

really good luck with it though. I run

45:25

most all games in quote unquote full screen

45:28

but with this under the hood of course

45:30

and it's all worked pretty well for me.

45:33

So do they still minimize when you all tab out? Some

45:36

of them do. Actually that behavior is kind

45:38

of unpredictable like some decent number games

45:41

still do minimize but some of them do not.

45:44

Because I'm often streaming and I don't necessarily want

45:46

to show my desktop to everybody when I all

45:48

tab I do tend to

45:51

use borderless window. Yeah. That makes sense.

45:53

I mean you're doing a video output

45:55

into a stream machine, right? I'm not

45:57

doing a like I'm not I'm not

45:59

I don't don't use OBS to capture a window

46:01

and then broadcast it out someplace anymore.

46:03

I used to do that, but it was removing

46:07

layers of hassle. It turns

46:09

out it's important for me.

46:11

The next big place where there's stuff

46:13

that's confusing is post-processing.

46:16

Usually, people group these together

46:18

in their display options often. Here's

46:22

an interesting question for you, Brad. When

46:24

you're looking at display options

46:26

or graphics options in a

46:29

game, typically, people put them in the same

46:31

order. It's always resolution at the top. It seems like the

46:34

preferred way or maybe the scheme

46:36

that people use is to put the stuff that's

46:38

the highest impact toward the top and

46:40

the lowest impact toward the bottom in terms of performance.

46:42

Yeah. A lot of things, I think that is intuitive.

46:45

Except for now that we have ray tracing stuff and that's always at the

46:47

bottom. We've completely upended

46:49

the entire hierarchy. Post-processing stuff is

46:52

all the stuff that happens after

46:54

the scene is rendered. You've drawn

46:56

your polygons, you've applied textures to

46:59

them, you've applied your lightmaps, you've

47:01

done all the highlights and the

47:03

reflectivity and all that stuff. Then,

47:06

you have this time to work inside the

47:09

rendered scene. Stuff like reflections and

47:11

ambient occlusion, which we've talked about a little bit.

47:13

Depth of field usually comes in at this point,

47:15

so you blur the stuff that's far away or

47:17

too close that's outside of the focal range of

47:19

the camera. Bloom,

47:23

where you brighten

47:25

up areas that have light sources. Anybody

47:28

who played video games from, let's

47:31

say 2002 to 2006 or 2007, remember more than that,

47:36

wasn't it? It definitely kept going

47:38

from there. There was a period

47:40

like mid-original Xbox with Fable and

47:42

some stuff like that. Like blooms

47:44

were so overused. It was everywhere.

47:47

I mean, it was the

47:49

color lighting of its time.

47:51

Let's see, bloom, chromatic aberrations.

47:55

It turns out- Very polarizing. Well,

47:58

chromatic aberrations are one of the things to make. people

48:00

motion check really anything else. Yeah,

48:02

really? Yeah, we we we

48:05

had some early on we had some chromatic aberrations

48:07

on some VFX in our game and we had

48:09

to pull them because it was making people feel

48:11

real bad. Wild. I wouldn't even associate that with

48:13

motion because it's like a color separation thing. It's

48:16

it's it's mimicking a lensing effect right like it's

48:18

something if you have glasses of a certain or

48:20

the high enough prescription you'll yeah

48:22

like what you get red and blue depending on

48:24

which side of the lens you're pointing out. You

48:26

see the colors separating out a little bit. That's

48:29

what that is. Some some people just hate the

48:31

way it looks. Also, I find yeah,

48:33

it's I'm trying to think I think control used a lot

48:35

of chromatic aberrations. Oh, hold on. I was going to put

48:37

something in there. The

48:40

color balance. So this is this is

48:42

there's also post processing effects that are

48:44

like almost like film production stuff where

48:46

you where you can change the tone mapping. You

48:48

can change the color balance of a scene. So you can make it go black

48:51

and white. You can make it be full color.

48:53

You can only have certain colors be

48:55

visible stuff like that. Vignetting

48:57

which is just kind of putting a frame around the edge of the

48:59

screen like you would if you were on on a too

49:01

narrow a lens for your sensor size on

49:04

your camera. TAA

49:06

temporal anti aliasing which is

49:09

does anti aliasing between frames basically.

49:12

FXAA which is fast approximate. This is another one where

49:15

the X is the letter in the acronym is in

49:17

the middle of the word which makes me crazy. Smooth

49:20

edges often that's used for

49:23

things like fences and narrow skinny

49:25

stuff. I thought I never knew what the X

49:27

stood for and that I'm glad I know now

49:29

even though even though it's even though it's an

49:32

illegal abbreviation. Yeah, this

49:34

is true crimes here.

49:36

And then super sampling which we talked

49:38

about before and film grain which everybody should

49:40

turn off immediately. I think motion

49:42

blur fits in this category too but I'm not

49:44

100% about that. It wasn't on

49:46

the list here. Yeah. I'm realizing

49:49

that now. Look man, film grain has its

49:51

place. It can absolutely be overused. It has

49:53

its place in film but when you're watching

49:55

a digital medium that's recorded digitally and rendered

49:57

digitally like it's film grain. is a, is

50:00

a, what was the bad word from the

50:02

early days of the iPhone? Uh,

50:06

you know, when you, when you made your, your movie

50:08

collection look like a shelf. Oh,

50:11

skeuomorphic? Skeuomorphic. Yeah. Most

50:14

skeuomorphic. I guess. Look, it's an aesthetic

50:16

choice, okay? Our direction. I

50:19

get it, etc. Whatever. I liked it.

50:21

I liked it in Mass Effect. It looked good with those

50:23

70s lens flares. I turned it off immediately. Give me the

50:25

lens flare though. I love a lens flare. Lens

50:27

flare is also a post, a post-processing.

50:30

So a lot of this stuff

50:32

is, is low impact. Uh, like film grain, uh,

50:35

um, depth of field, um, tone

50:38

mapping, color balance, all this. So a lot of these things

50:40

you don't get access to. Dramatic aberrations,

50:42

people let you turn off because some people hate them and some

50:44

people make barf when you use them. Uh, bloom

50:46

often you can turn off. None of this

50:48

stuff is super high impact except for

50:50

SSAO and the anti-aliasing stuff. And

50:52

all of those are basically supplanted by

50:55

the ray tracing and or DLSS, uh,

50:57

the, the suit, the, the MR, ML

50:59

super sampling stuff. Yeah.

51:02

Um, HDR is another weird one. We, we did realize

51:04

we forgot to put this on the main list. I

51:06

kind of wish we had left it off. HDR

51:09

is a mess in PC games. It's really

51:11

all over the place. Like everybody implements it

51:13

differently. Some people don't support it right. That's,

51:17

that's kind of what I wanted to say is it sounds

51:19

like I'd often just turn it off. Some

51:21

give you too many options. Um, it's

51:23

in the no stock. If people want to look it up, cyberpunk, literally,

51:26

well, I can't see all the options right now,

51:28

but cyberpunk literally offers like two different HDR modes

51:30

that use like terminology, like sRGB,

51:32

something, something. And then I forgot the other, you

51:34

know what I mean? It's like, unless you really,

51:36

they let you pick the spec that you use,

51:38

right? Like unless you already professional working in like

51:40

color timing or something, you have no idea what

51:43

those things mean. And I couldn't tell the difference.

51:45

Oh, uh, speaking of color timing, that

51:47

is another thing. If you use it, if you actually take

51:49

the time to color calibrate your monitor and

51:51

you let games use exclusive full screen,

51:54

they won't use the color timing, the

51:57

color calibration profiles that you set up

51:59

through windows. So worth

52:01

worth knowing if you've bothered to color

52:04

calibrate your monitors. Um, I

52:06

so I usually What

52:08

I'm gonna say is don't use the auto HDR

52:10

setting that's in Windows because it blows does

52:13

it I think it stinks Some

52:15

people I haven't I've not spent a lot of time with it

52:17

personally But some people things seem to think it works pretty well.

52:19

I mean I have had almost

52:22

exclusively bad experiences with it On

52:26

games that do support HDR and you

52:28

take the time to do the calibration like don't

52:30

skip the calibration steps if you're doing HDR Don't

52:33

cheese the calibration steps Where

52:36

you you know, cuz look we've all done that thing

52:39

where it's like hey adjust the gamma until you can

52:41

barely see this Darkest bit of the scene right and

52:43

then we're like, you know what? It's pretty cool when

52:45

you're playing a multiplayer game to be able to see

52:47

people hiding. Oh shadows Yeah, you can't do that with

52:50

HDR because your stuff gets really washed out and janky.

52:52

It looks terrible It's just gonna make everything would blown

52:54

out Um, it's if you're gonna a lot of games

52:56

will actually ask you the max brightness of your monitor

52:58

Which is a kind of insane thing to ask. Yeah,

53:00

well, I've yes I've noticed that trend of like they

53:03

they literally like asked you how many knits can your

53:05

display do or something? Like those people are not going

53:07

to know that Well, I mean you're gonna

53:09

want to go look up your monitor on the internet

53:11

to see what it does Yeah, because if you get

53:13

that wrong, it'll make things look real bad, too Like

53:15

this is this is why it's messy. It's cuz there's

53:17

no As far as I

53:20

can tell there's no good way for the monitor to

53:22

say to Windows Hey, here's what I support and Windows

53:24

doesn't care enough to report that back to games So

53:26

it's up to us as players to know this stuff

53:28

on a game by game basis, which is janky and

53:31

bad Another thing I should mention. I think

53:33

I've got this right again. The stuff is pretty hard to figure

53:35

out I think you have to you have to have a shower

53:37

enabled in Windows at the desktop level before you then go into

53:39

a game And turn it on there, right? It has to be

53:41

on on your monitor It has to be on on Windows and

53:43

it has to be on in the game Like

53:46

you can't point is you can't leave HDR

53:48

off at like say the Windows desktop and then

53:50

just make a game force it on it Already

53:52

has to be on in Windows A lot of

53:54

people don't like the way that the desktop looks

53:56

with HDR on me included Especially if you have

53:58

like two non HDR monitors in one HDR monitor.

54:01

There is a Windows shortcut for HDR

54:04

to enable HDR. It's Windows key plus

54:06

alt plus B turns on HDR and

54:08

turns on alt B. If you're gonna

54:10

use HDR on

54:14

your Windows PC that one's a banger. Yeah

54:16

that's pretty good. I will keep that in mind.

54:19

That's pretty close to the reset the graphics

54:22

driver entirely keyboard shortcut. What

54:24

is that? Control alt B?

54:27

Is B for graphics? I guess. It's Windows

54:29

control shift B for that one which completely

54:31

restarts the graphics driver if you're having display

54:33

issues. There you go. That's a good one

54:35

to know. Last thing I

54:37

should mention here I think we talked about this a few months ago

54:39

in some other contexts. Maybe it was when I

54:41

bought my TV or something. Yeah we talked about HDR. Windows

54:44

11 has an HDR calibration

54:46

tool now. Oh really? You do have to go

54:48

to the Microsoft Store and download it. It doesn't

54:51

just stop built into Windows 11

54:53

for whatever reason. Literally just called

54:55

Windows HDR calibration. Just go to the

54:57

Microsoft Store and search for that. It's

54:59

actually basically identical to the Xbox like

55:02

the Series X HDR calibration. So Series

55:05

X and PS5 pretty much have this solved. I

55:07

mean of course they do because they're consoles. Yeah. You

55:10

know it's a 6 platform but it mimics that

55:12

where it's literally just three quick screens of like

55:15

adjust the brightness so you can barely see this

55:17

symbol now adjust it the other direction. Same thing

55:19

like it takes two minutes. That's really good. So

55:21

definitely do that in Windows 11 if you're going

55:23

to try using HDR in games. I wonder if

55:25

it passes it forward to games or if that

55:27

just sets the baseline for the monitor. So Alan

55:30

Way 2 recommends that you do this. Okay. So

55:32

I think it is working with games in some

55:34

direct way. Good to know. Hey so

55:36

the good news is we've done all the complicated

55:38

stuff and all we have left is ray tracing.

55:40

Oh yeah that's I mean it's just a fire

55:42

and forget right. Yeah ray tracing is really complicated

55:44

it turns out. Yeah. Well for now I guess

55:47

like theoretically eventually it's just gonna be the

55:49

thing and it's gonna be a well I

55:52

I mean at some point

55:54

in the future yeah but like right now

55:56

the way people are implementing in games it

55:58

seems like it's Like

56:00

everybody picks and chooses the stuff that they want

56:03

to apply retracing to. Yes. They're

56:05

pretty tactical about it. Like with the

56:07

exception of like cyberpunk where everything's traced to

56:09

hell. You

56:12

have to play it game by game basically is the upshot

56:14

here. There's no common

56:17

rules. The hardware

56:19

vendors are doing it typically a pretty

56:21

good job of highlighting the work for

56:23

flagship games. Yeah. Like I found this

56:25

great blog post about control on Nvidia's

56:27

blog where they highlighted the five things

56:29

that control used ray tracing for. Which

56:32

is like floor like reflections, environmental

56:35

reflections like furniture reflecting onto the

56:38

shiny concrete floors, white

56:41

walls reflecting lights differently, stuff

56:43

like that. Transparent

56:45

reflections where you can see your character in glass windows

56:47

or if like there's a fight happening in a room

56:49

with a bunch of glass, the

56:52

particles are reflected in the windows which

56:54

normally doesn't happen on glass reflections when

56:56

they're done by Q maps or other

56:58

pre-computed volumes. Indirect

57:01

diffuse lighting which is where the color light bounces to

57:03

nearby surfaces so you get more than one bounce on

57:05

the light maps including dynamic. So

57:08

typically with a light map you only

57:10

see lights on non-dynamic objects. So like

57:12

if there's an enemy in

57:14

a shadowy hallway the light won't necessarily

57:16

like the light won't

57:18

reflect onto them and in this case the wood. Right.

57:21

Like in that case like the game developer on the

57:23

rasterized situation is just using a different lighting technique to

57:26

simulate that the light from the light map is hitting

57:29

the dynamic object even

57:31

though there actually is different technique under the hood. They're

57:34

saying hey you're standing inside a light map therefore we

57:36

should reduce your lighting by this much. Right.

57:39

Right. But also it means that like

57:41

a projectiles light won't necessarily impact on

57:43

anyway. Yeah. So that's why

57:45

like if you've watched like me flip out of

57:48

Q2 RTX on a stream a couple of years

57:50

ago or whatever and specifically you're like oh my

57:52

god all the power-ups are affected by the same

57:54

lighting as everything else stuff like that. Yeah.

57:57

That's why like that's that's that's where having

57:59

a fully general. unified

58:01

lighting model makes makes everything look really consistent

58:03

and cool. And the thing

58:05

to know is that you're not replacing

58:07

like they're not the raytrays stuff isn't

58:10

replacing isn't

58:12

replacing nothing. It's replacing hacks that

58:14

were less good, right? It's it's

58:17

things that we did to make things look okay

58:19

But and it's kind of like

58:22

I use this example up It's kind of like

58:24

video compression right where after you watch each impact

58:26

to impact to video for a long time You

58:28

don't see the blockyness of it anymore after you

58:30

watch h264 compression for long enough You don't notice

58:32

the kind of glitches around the edges of things

58:35

anymore And and this is all stuff that is

58:37

people who've been playing games for a long time

58:39

You probably don't even notice anymore until it's not

58:41

there and it's working the way it does in

58:43

the real world, right? Contact

58:46

shadows was another good one so if you think

58:48

about how shadows on a thing like a chain

58:50

link fence or like a thin metal rod or

58:53

like a Like like really

58:55

fences are the classic example because there's a lot

58:57

of vertical things aligned with each other and they

58:59

often get stairs Kind of stair stepped out of

59:01

existence because the light maps are lower

59:03

resolution than the world and and the shadows don't look

59:05

good as a result These

59:08

these give fine detail shadows That

59:11

without having to do the kind of fine-tuning

59:14

Like basically you put you put a higher resolution

59:16

The way to fix is to put higher resolution

59:18

light maps in areas where these types of things

59:20

are But that is incredibly time intensive and requires

59:23

an artist going back over the levels again and

59:25

again and again as things change So

59:28

so this just it kind of happens automatically. It looks

59:30

really nice It also means

59:32

that like things are shadowed like the inside of

59:34

pipes and stuff like that are shadowed in a

59:37

way That's appropriate even when lighting in the world

59:39

is changing and then the last one is debris

59:41

so there's a couple of scenes in control where

59:43

like monsters come in and just destroy the whole

59:45

world around you and It

59:48

what they're doing is essentially letting the things

59:50

that are typically visual effects and Particles

59:52

that are that don't maybe don't look like particles

59:55

Cast shadows and reflect light and do

59:57

things and it looks bonkers when you

59:59

you see it in person. Yeah.

1:00:03

So, so, but the upshot on

1:00:05

that is that the settings for

1:00:08

control and the settings for Alan Wake and

1:00:10

the settings for cyberpunk and the settings for

1:00:12

Fortnite are all wildly different because

1:00:14

their implementations of ray tracing are very highly specific

1:00:16

to their games. Yeah. And London in

1:00:18

some cases, like you said, they kind of take and choose which

1:00:21

parts of the render pipeline are handled by

1:00:23

reasoning and which are traditional like call of

1:00:25

duty has ray tracing, but they ray traced

1:00:28

some shadows and I think a couple

1:00:30

of reflections occasionally, but

1:00:32

not like, not like world reflections.

1:00:34

It's basically just you see the players in in

1:00:37

puddles and glass and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:39

And I mean, to be clear, the reason for

1:00:41

that is that so far ray tracing has had

1:00:43

an enormous performance cost. Like it's, it's not

1:00:46

what a lot of people would consider comfortably playable

1:00:48

depending on the kind of hardware you're on. Like

1:00:50

we're just getting to the point now where hardware

1:00:52

is fast enough and also the software is improving

1:00:54

enough. Like that's why it was such a big deal

1:00:56

like marketing wise, like they made such a big push

1:00:58

behind the cyberpunk path tracing mode.

1:01:01

Yeah. Path racing in this context is a much

1:01:03

more generalized, Hey, now we're using ray tracing for

1:01:05

everything in the game. Yeah. So ray

1:01:08

tracing traces out from the camera viewpoint to

1:01:10

all the pixels in the scene and path

1:01:12

tracing is the other way. It bounces from

1:01:14

light sources until it intersects with the camera,

1:01:16

right? Um, I can't remember which direction. I

1:01:19

think they're still going from surface back. I

1:01:21

think they're still working backwards, but

1:01:23

we're, we're definitely not experts on that. I

1:01:26

think it's tracing rays back from surface to camera instead of

1:01:28

the other way around. Right. But

1:01:31

the race. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, but,

1:01:33

but the upshot is there are way

1:01:35

better algorithms coming out for like ray casting and resampling

1:01:37

and all that stuff. Like if you've seen some of

1:01:39

the, I know this is a very Nvidia

1:01:41

heavy episode. I mean, they've been pushing

1:01:44

ray tracing artists. Um, RTX DI,

1:01:46

I believe is the name of their package that

1:01:48

they put out along with cyberpunk. Um,

1:01:51

it is incorporating a lot faster types

1:01:53

of ray tracing processing. Um, so

1:01:56

I think we're going to start seeing more games that use ray

1:01:58

tracing and a much more general. Global way. Well, I

1:02:00

think the other thing that's gonna happen is we're gonna start

1:02:02

seeing Current gen console exclusives that

1:02:05

utilize the ray tracing stuff more more Yeah,

1:02:07

we're actually start like spider-man 2 was a

1:02:09

surprising example of that where there is no

1:02:11

mode on the PS even on the ps5

1:02:13

There is no mode that doesn't use ray

1:02:15

tracing. Yeah, I agree And

1:02:17

that carries over to console ports, of course So

1:02:22

path tracing according to digital trends Path

1:02:26

tracing is ray tracing is more

1:02:28

accurate path tracing is faster can

1:02:30

have some problems But you

1:02:32

can kind of work around the problems by by

1:02:34

applying some other clever solutions to

1:02:36

them And that's why like

1:02:39

way to RTX that that's why the games that

1:02:41

have done full lighting model replacements have done path

1:02:43

tracing for the most part The

1:02:48

let's see last thing I guess here

1:02:50

I I'm

1:02:53

trying to think I feel motion blur. We didn't talk about

1:02:55

motion blur Brad People

1:02:57

love motion blur. Do they well?

1:03:00

Do you remember a couple years ago when when digital foundry

1:03:02

did the thing that was like, hey You know what

1:03:04

forts of horizon looks as good at 30 frames

1:03:06

a second with motion blur on is it does it

1:03:08

60 frames a second? Mm-hmm people

1:03:11

reacted pretty negatively to that as I

1:03:13

understand. Yes. Yes, that is unsurprising Yeah,

1:03:16

I tried it. Did you try it? Did you turn

1:03:18

it on? I did not I was

1:03:20

really shocked It adds what how

1:03:22

effective it was I couldn't really tell

1:03:24

the difference. Oh Interesting.

1:03:27

Yeah. Um, so anyway, let's see

1:03:29

last couple things the latency reduction

1:03:31

stuff like reflex and and Anti-lag

1:03:35

on the AMD side are

1:03:37

both really good. And if you have those supported in

1:03:39

your games It's worth turning them on especially if you're

1:03:41

using mouse and keyboard because they do reduce the input

1:03:43

to pixel latency quite a bit Yeah, they're actually I

1:03:46

was gonna ask earlier Is there any reason not to

1:03:48

ever enable those is it just like a if you

1:03:50

run into problems turn them off? Maybe

1:03:52

the boost setting can increase your power

1:03:54

consumption on video side for the for

1:03:56

the reflex make

1:04:00

the GPU run it. We can keep

1:04:02

this at the TDP if you have to, to

1:04:04

hit the frame rate calls.

1:04:08

My general advice is like turn off

1:04:11

the frame generation for most stuff probably

1:04:13

at this point, unless it's like heavy

1:04:15

ray tracing type content. Yeah, again,

1:04:17

Cyberpunk there was the example where like, even

1:04:20

a 4090 could only run Cyberpunk on the path tracing

1:04:22

mode at 4K, like basically about

1:04:25

30 FPS native. You

1:04:27

can see in my Allen

1:04:30

Wake settings, I have DLSS,

1:04:32

I'm using DLAA for the render

1:04:34

resolution at my native NAP and

1:04:37

I have frame generation on there. That

1:04:40

was nice. It performed well. Yeah, Allen Wake

1:04:42

is another one of the few games that's very heavy

1:04:44

on ray tracing. But again, I think we're going to

1:04:46

see a lot more of it in the next two,

1:04:48

three years. Well, and also like both

1:04:50

of those, I mean, Cyberpunk a little bit less so,

1:04:52

but Allen Wake is a game where like your input

1:04:55

latency doesn't really matter, right? It's

1:04:57

not like there's fast shooting sequences

1:04:59

or you're basically walking around being

1:05:01

a kind of grumpy old guy and doing cop

1:05:03

stuff. So yeah, that's it. That's

1:05:05

settings. Do we miss anything else important? I

1:05:07

don't think so. I mean, let's

1:05:10

miss something else a little bit. That's shocking, yeah. But please

1:05:12

let us know if you thought this was useful or helpful.

1:05:15

Oh, the other one is Unreal 5 stuff. Unreal 5

1:05:17

has a completely different pipeline for ray tracing than anybody

1:05:19

else. So as we start to see Unreal 5 games,

1:05:21

they will probably be a little bit more in common

1:05:23

if they're using Nanite and Lumen and all that stuff,

1:05:26

right? But it's a kind of

1:05:28

hybrid CPU GPU solution that's

1:05:33

not super well documented from what this means

1:05:35

for people. Standpoint, if

1:05:37

you're playing say Fortnite, which is a competitive

1:05:39

game, probably I turn all

1:05:41

that stuff off. If

1:05:43

you're playing something that is not competitive and you want

1:05:46

to look nice, turn it all on, get crazy. Going

1:05:48

right back to the days of Quake 1 when I

1:05:50

had the three effects card and thought it was cool.

1:05:52

And then I went back to the software mode because

1:05:54

I got 200 frames a second. The

1:05:57

guy who ran the Linux lab that I've talked about, I think...

1:06:00

in the past had had settings

1:06:03

for Quake one with 3D acceleration that

1:06:05

basically turned the MIP levels all the way down.

1:06:08

Oh yeah. Oh, that's a classic. It was like

1:06:10

you'd like it like the health box was just

1:06:12

like a brown box with a

1:06:14

red circle on it. Basically a fuzzy

1:06:16

red circle. Yeah, that's the classic. I've had good

1:06:18

times. Good times. I don't

1:06:21

think it really mattered all that much, Brad. Probably

1:06:24

not. No, but but yeah, let us know. Let us

1:06:26

know if there's other settings. If there's other things you

1:06:29

don't understand, you'd like to know more about, we

1:06:32

will track them down post posted. Send us

1:06:34

an email at techpod at content

1:06:36

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1:06:38

in the discord and we'll we'll we will

1:06:41

we will drill down and figure it out. And

1:06:43

if we don't know the answer, we'll call Nvidia and AMD

1:06:45

and ask them to please help us answer

1:06:48

your questions. But

1:06:50

I think that's it for us this week, Brad. Yeah.

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It's a bad... Who the hell thought... BIOS.

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UEFI. BIOS. Listen

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