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I hold on my hand the gum to bear no

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you didn't let me say that if you move

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you die crap I gotta

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be up front about it made

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I knife chip and shatter made

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that I've chipped and shatter

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we wasn't on journey can we

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have guns I

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don't know guns I don't know if

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we can never leave it in

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but blur it out so they'll never know yeah

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the audio listeners get everything but

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the video listeners watchers

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even oh speaking

0:48

of I know about that that

0:51

was my segue to the watchers situation

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we'd talk about do not time

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but I did get to do

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book that has all the photography

2:13

and stuff from I'm Josh he

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broke yes he did them, the

2:17

poetry in the in, the words

2:19

in it and then there's a

2:21

good though. Are we just talking

2:24

Like much as anyone can write

2:26

poetry it is. Good.

2:29

I. Mean it's. It's

2:32

some. Of them are kind of weird

2:34

when a guy like me so mad set literally

2:36

every poetry tell. This is. Also

2:42

know. As. You say

2:44

that the benefits assisted physicist at

2:47

Ah is is called others a

2:49

bunch of photography from onset and

2:51

stuff and then Josh Brolin right?

2:54

Some things about some stuff. Since

2:57

I wanted to think that that's cool but

2:59

part of me can't help but think about

3:01

how cringe you this. There's

3:04

definitely some some passages in there that

3:06

are a little cringe but doesn't like.

3:08

You know if the moment strikes you

3:10

do have like a good soliloquy that

3:12

you want to get across to the

3:14

audience. Sure. But. If you're just

3:16

writing poetry for the sake of writing poetry,

3:18

because you're onset and you're bored and fiance

3:20

as boring as fuck. Some

3:23

of them are just passages. Some of

3:25

them are like actual. Poetry.

3:28

Now but it's a nice little coffee table

3:30

book you could drop antibody. Has this conversation

3:32

at this point and just tell them that

3:34

it's were taught about. Taylor Says New album.

3:36

For. Oh man we could. She's as

3:39

waxing lyrical over and over. A Be

3:41

Like is a good. Well.

3:45

See if if you're the only a month.

3:48

And. And. You like Taylor

3:50

Swift? That. Then maybe. I'd

3:52

have to listen to what is the simplest. Throw

3:56

stuff at All Birds are Not New Album

3:58

I I. admit I

4:00

don't know Taylor Swift. I don't really know

4:03

much of the deep lore. I'm pretty up

4:05

to date, but I'm

4:08

just gonna put this out there instead of getting put

4:10

up against the wall and shot by her community. I

4:14

would like to point out that I don't

4:17

really care either way, but I've seen a lot

4:19

of the Lines that have

4:21

come out of the album and out

4:24

of context are hilarious rooms like you

4:26

ate seven chocolate bars I'm like how

4:29

do you put that in a song? Yeah,

4:32

it's supposed to be like talking

4:35

about Matt Healy and him smoking weed Baby,

4:40

but again, I'm getting all of my

4:42

information from secondhand sources. So I don't

4:44

know I think There

4:46

would be a fun Taylor

4:49

Swift What's

4:51

the new album called tortured poet society?

4:54

department Yeah,

4:56

tortellini poet department Big

5:00

man poet time That

5:08

oh my god, it's a fucking 31 song

5:11

album which If

5:15

you're able to write that much then

5:17

fair play I did see some reviews

5:20

that were like She

5:22

said that she had to write to get through some

5:24

stuff and she was writing when she was on tour

5:26

and I get that like Creative outlets and all that's

5:28

clearly making music and writing is for creative outlet

5:31

But a lot of the reviews are like

5:33

just because you had to write to get through this stuff

5:35

doesn't mean we had to hear it Hey

5:38

question about You

5:41

know making songs to get through a thing

5:43

or expressing an emotion or whatever isn't

5:46

that every song ever Yeah,

5:49

isn't that? Songwriting

5:51

processes you're like I have

5:53

a feeling that I want to express I'm going

5:55

to make a song about it Yeah, but

5:58

this is about breakups. You Don't. Getting

6:00

ah. Hasn't. Been

6:02

done before. God. She

6:04

says stuff like my boy only

6:06

breaks his favorite toys, toys. oh.

6:09

I'm. Queen of Sand Castles He

6:11

destroys. Oh. So

6:13

like that stuff. Such a bad see I

6:16

wish I knew that one's off the top

6:18

of my head once a fix me he's

6:20

gonna miss me. Of curve for can

6:22

I can it hits. Com. A his heart

6:24

which is the legend will take away as like

6:26

maybe work on the inside is more important than

6:29

trying to make everybody else. A

6:31

line to what I think so some

6:33

soul searching. How. Long as the

6:35

album sorry one songs, how many about

6:37

six and a half weeks I think?

6:40

Ah to through businesses. Have

6:43

met our. Own

6:46

Software Zurich. What? I don't know

6:48

what song it's from. This is

6:51

a credit. Your sources. I.

6:53

Have not listened to the to the album

6:55

I'm Taylor Swift isn't for me and I'm

6:57

very happy for everybody that's real pumped about

7:00

the i you don't wanna learn and to

7:02

do this is your with Saudi one tracks

7:04

this is your her seats are was one

7:06

for every year she's been alive. Oh are

7:08

Super Bowl This is like the Roman Empire

7:10

is when this of cubs are. I wish

7:12

there was that into an artist anymore said.

7:15

Lock. When the Brandon Sanderson sift storm my book

7:17

comes out of the end of the year, It's. Only

7:20

right there with you. Swift.

7:23

These are real waxing. Lyrical

7:25

about how the storm light.

7:27

Andrew Skeletons veins I ah.

7:30

Who's. Asked this question the as a day. Of

7:33

just a simple question of like who's your favorite. Musical

7:35

artists. And. I was like. Oh.

7:39

Oh No. Even like. What's.

7:42

One of your favorite and like. And I like a lot. Are you

7:44

from beds at different times? I don't like have a current. Favorite song

7:46

yes the of I'm current favorite. Yes

7:48

I have answers. Mine is hose year.

7:51

The ball rolling that I was thinking

7:53

about in the back of a sudden.

7:57

You're too sweet for coffee.

8:00

So. I make my blog. Move

8:04

we'll really is. It's

8:06

no more mellow Missoula

8:08

dude out or omens.

8:11

Skimmed. The

8:14

could put at What about him? As

8:17

a desirous is because of his long have.

8:19

You guys currently look similar.

8:22

You. A lot of similarities right now.

8:24

Coincidence. Or. Because I looked into

8:26

wants to wed. That's. Man.

8:30

That's amazing. People have the true be a

8:32

man by De Vinci I have hose You're

8:34

from Ireland. Where's. He

8:37

from in Ireland obviously.

8:39

Ah, I don't actually

8:41

know. Yeah,

8:44

you guys both have your long beautiful lox.

8:46

You both have facial hair. you're both Irish,

8:48

not as good as a from Wexford but

8:50

is actually from Whitlow and you use from

8:52

a W County. But. I didn't

8:54

give the dogs no one. On he's

8:57

as. The. Think the only difference between

8:59

the two of use he's like twelve feet tall. Yeah.

9:01

He's also incredibly talented and handsome

9:03

as a great voice and can

9:05

break was. So

9:09

incredibly talented and handsome Proven adam

9:11

it as an adult that if

9:14

points to one tower. What

9:17

Do you mean? Point Two One talent. The

9:19

Empire. That you've made over the years. How

9:21

does how he has further users release a

9:23

comic book? This House of Cards that I

9:26

have Bills. That.

9:30

Hell listen, if I wanted to get a

9:32

comic book, You

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are announcer bad Homer. Thank you for

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diploma take. Ah, you have yours. You

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do know Comic book came out issue

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one polluted issue zero before not issue

9:43

one. Put. Together get

9:45

all the me off for a comic books.

9:48

If you get all the covers are so

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many covers. a

9:54

see any way excited about it if

9:56

i have i'm very excited by the

9:58

people should buy my comic books no

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it go? Oh it's right here. Take that comic

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at least he had trigger discipline. Yeah, but he held

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11:54

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11:56

attacked by people. Look, everybody, all God's

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children, everyone's beautiful. Theresa.

12:01

For Union and as you like details that you

12:03

didn't hear what I think and our whole album

12:06

an early as about the audience shouldn't terrible what

12:08

she does because she's grown for the woman. She's.

12:10

A C major just. Ah

12:13

I think Jose Ears lyrics. Are.

12:15

What People think Taylor Swift's hurt except

12:18

for. Is

12:20

that what you like about who's you?

12:22

Do I? lyrics I think Put A

12:24

Hose You're clearly shows that he reads

12:27

a lot of poetry and the way

12:29

he writes not all his son. Some

12:31

songs are literally just like I like

12:34

fuck in in the evenings. I was

12:36

like the hoses as a reply rather

12:38

more. Have had his poetry Buffalo Meat

12:40

Bad Slide Down By the Fire Light

12:43

Haiti's our System supposed to brighter with

12:45

right cities. Are up to my others

12:47

and of this thing and into linux.

12:50

Do. You think so often he

12:52

stands in the womb his

12:54

nipples makes sound city school

12:57

a clue. So this is

12:59

a specific. Sisters.

13:02

I mean something in our this is

13:04

their names. Of. The.

13:06

Know. Had. Not air. Said.

13:09

No idea what was your. Andrew.

13:11

Is John hose your burn as his

13:13

name? Is. Bad

13:16

trade. Surplus you

13:18

ever think about. Your.

13:21

Name. And. I was

13:23

are singing about this is a day. Where.

13:26

Some people's names just.

13:29

Sounds. Successful me as famous

13:31

and stuff going on here you say

13:33

people and they're so thirty you're like

13:35

a i kind of know what you

13:37

do. Like, I know that

13:39

you're successful because you're gorgeous and you look

13:41

and expenses adept for him and a lot

13:44

of friends. Somebody

13:46

will have staged names so like.

13:48

It's. it's a little bit more like

13:51

goddesses you know your to states name's

13:53

the some people's names are like up

13:55

like he sounds success yahoos years so

13:57

i should like you guys gifted dad

13:59

and it sounds like a stage name.

14:01

Like Timothy shallow me? Yeah,

14:04

fuck you Timothy. Not only that, but

14:06

you speak French and you're handsome. That's

14:09

not fair. When you go into like

14:11

when you're starting Fallout or something and it gives you

14:13

like the stats that you're not to put into stuff,

14:16

some people clearly got more stats. We're

14:18

two of them. We

14:22

have a podcast that we just

14:24

talk shit. People are

14:27

like, cool, keep it coming. Oh

14:31

boy. I do want

14:34

to say that last week's episode with MatPat was very, very

14:36

fun. If you haven't listened to that, definitely go listen to

14:38

it. Yeah, it's not up yet. So we don't know how

14:40

people even like it. Yeah, it's going

14:42

up tomorrow and

14:45

we didn't even, I did it

14:47

for the episode and it never came up, which

14:49

why would it? Because the episode was about MatPat,

14:51

but I randomly decided, I was

14:53

like, oh, I should shave today. And so I shaved

14:55

everything but the mustache and I was like, I'll just

14:57

keep it for today. Okay,

15:00

I want to give context to this because

15:02

you had facial hair and then you decided

15:04

to shave and you left the mustache. But

15:08

first of all, it didn't look bad. I genuinely

15:10

thought it looked great. You should have kept it,

15:12

you fucking pussy. But

15:14

you face-sided me an hour before and you were

15:16

like, what do you think?

15:21

Expecting me to like make fun of it or something,

15:23

which I kind of did because I

15:26

thought it looked like find $20 on the ground and not pick it up,

15:28

you know? Yeah, but

15:32

it looked good. And you

15:34

were like, oh, I have to point out how stupid

15:36

it is in case somebody else does it first. No,

15:39

we're not doing that anymore. We're

15:42

not wearing our insecurities as pieces of armor

15:45

anymore. Because it turns out that armor is

15:47

made out of white paper bag. Yeah,

15:50

we're not wearing these insecurities as

15:52

armor. We're wearing it as facial

15:54

hair that's on our face. Yeah,

15:57

we're just not

15:59

aware that we're showcasing it all the

16:01

time anymore. And then people pointed out

16:03

and then you go, well, there's a

16:05

new one. That's the new

16:07

one security that I didn't realize they have.

16:09

Like me hanging out with, oh, me

16:12

hanging out with people and then somebody went like, always

16:14

a joke, huh? And I

16:16

went, oh man, that's all I know how

16:19

to do. Always

16:21

analogy, huh? Yeah.

16:25

I did interviews for my comic book yesterday. I

16:27

think I said like four analogies. Ooh,

16:29

what was that like? It was fun. Are

16:32

you allowed to speak on it? Yeah.

16:35

One of them, well, I didn't do the interview for them, but

16:37

we got an article in IGN, which I think

16:39

is pretty cool. Yeah, that's sweet.

16:41

A lot of people don't really care about IGN anymore

16:43

and that meme them and for the video game stuff,

16:46

everyone's like, oh, seven out of 10, not enough water.

16:50

And that's fair. I don't think every

16:53

journalism spot is without criticism.

16:57

But as someone who grew

16:59

up going to IGN all the time for

17:02

reviews for games years ago when I was a

17:04

teenager, it's pretty cool to see something

17:06

I did. It's like feeding

17:08

my inner child. And I

17:10

think that's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. They

17:13

did one with Forbes, which they like. Oh. At

17:16

the start of it, they do the thing

17:18

where it's like, Sean McLaughlin, who does YouTube,

17:20

was 30 million subscribers. And I'm like, yeah,

17:22

this many views. I'm like, oh.

17:25

And then they're like, he also does coffee. He does coffee

17:27

on comic books. And he has a podcast. And he does

17:29

this and that. And he's been in a lot of video

17:31

games with voices. And I'm like, oh,

17:33

I forgot about all of them. Isn't

17:36

that nice, though? And then it's like, tell us all about yourself. And I'm

17:38

like, I don't want to. He

17:40

can't do it. I'm uncomfortable now

17:42

because my brain is just like, you

17:44

did an accomplishment, never remember it.

17:47

Always be sad. ABS.

17:52

Yeah. That's what

17:54

my brain's always saying. ABS, though. Ab

17:56

workout, always be. Always

17:58

be. It is. that's good and it's

18:01

good for you. I know and you

18:03

know pat on the back for me and everything but when

18:06

they do it I'm like the Irish in

18:08

me is like you're not allowed except for

18:10

praise. I was talking to Sam Blake

18:12

about it shout out name drop but

18:14

I was like it's Finland like Sweden

18:16

where you're not allowed like boast about

18:19

things and there is a term for

18:21

it. He was like yeah it's like someone's

18:23

like don't make a big name for yourself in case

18:25

you bring shame upon yourself kind of thing. I was

18:28

like I guess Ireland is kind of the same where

18:31

it's like no one's allowed step beyond their boundaries

18:33

because everyone will make fun of them. Maybe

18:36

that's where I get it from my little

18:38

Irish heritage. Yeah. Goes all the way back to

18:40

me. You actually just got the depression side

18:42

of being Irish. Which

18:44

is like a lot of small towns, a lot of

18:46

drinking. Oh Paddy got a

18:48

name for himself and now he's better than all of

18:51

us. No he's not. Fuck him. We

18:54

always talk. Analogy time. Singing ding.

18:57

I need a bell. Guys. Huge.

18:59

Huge analogy time. I have

19:01

a small bell. Analogy

19:05

time. Analogy time. It's

19:07

like Americans would see somebody's house on top

19:09

of a hill that's really expensive and go

19:12

that's going to be me someday. Climb the

19:14

capitalist ladder. My Bitcoin's going

19:17

to hit huge. But

19:19

Irish people would see the house and go like who

19:21

does your man think he is fucking sitting on top

19:23

of his fancy house. Probably shapes gold. And

19:25

then Americans is all about

19:27

like how do I become the one so

19:29

I can shit on everyone else. The

19:32

American dream baby. And Ireland's like well let's

19:34

pull everyone down to our level because fuck

19:36

those guys. That

19:39

is kind of funny. Very true

19:42

words. Like no everybody's fucking shit

19:44

coming back down here. I think I

19:47

have that sometimes where I'll get upset about something because

19:49

somebody did something amazing and I'm like why

19:51

do I suck. No the

19:53

thing they did must suck.

19:55

Time to pull. Here you

19:57

go. Letting all

20:00

the air out of your tires magic man

20:04

but I try not to do that but I'm like

20:06

that's in my upbringing that's like my knee-jerk reaction sometimes

20:08

for us to be like judgmental and I'm like no

20:10

no who taught you

20:12

that it's a learned trait

20:14

yeah mm-hmm passed down from

20:16

generation to generation here we

20:19

are at least my dad gave me huge

20:21

testicles thanks Paul oh yeah

20:23

thanks that appreciate that he's looking

20:26

down at me right now with my giant balls

20:28

he's like that's my boy anyway

20:33

it did feel good though doing the

20:35

interviews you were able to give yourself

20:37

a moment to say hey that's

20:39

nice it is very nice I mean it's a thing that

20:42

you get to go somewhere cool or did you just do

20:44

it like this I think

20:47

I was wearing the same outfit I

20:49

haven't changed my clothes for 10 days

20:52

well the Forbes one they like started with the cameras on

20:54

and I'm like oh this is a because they're not always

20:57

like video and then

20:59

sometimes it's like you're on the call and

21:01

they transcribe what you've said which sometimes I'm

21:03

like journalist please if

21:05

somebody in an interview has a

21:07

lot of stutter and ums and

21:09

ahs and things and

21:11

things like that and things and stuff don't

21:14

put that in make them sound cool

21:17

how did they put it in well I don't know

21:20

but I have had interviews like that before where I

21:22

see the interview afterwards and I'm like did I really

21:24

say that that much and I'm like I'm all for

21:26

transparency that's eternalism probably should be but come

21:29

on come on guys

21:31

make me look a little bit better yeah just do it for

21:33

me he went up for daddy

21:35

give one up for the big dog God

21:38

big dog but here you

21:40

are talking about news we should

21:42

talk about those who watches yes who

21:44

watches the watchman I forgot

21:47

to say we're called here I always just knew them

21:49

as Shane and Ryan yeah same

21:52

here because I guess because we we

21:54

come from like a tumblr era earlier

21:56

in our careers before

21:59

Miss kind of died. Well,

22:01

the mystery? unsolved. Yeah, I think

22:03

smoke that these me both feet.

22:05

Yeah. So I. I.

22:07

Would like to start this off by saying

22:09

i think that. Ah,

22:12

On think they're bad news. I think they

22:14

just made a decision that was like ah

22:16

yeah, that's probably not good. You probably. Could.

22:19

Have predicted. The outcome is

22:22

very fine. Bro loves this!

22:24

Yeah, I thought I'd completely

22:26

forgotten this as a copyright

22:29

copyright react. Oh.

22:31

Wow. Eve. But if I like

22:33

that oh they they put out a

22:36

statement saying well. I

22:39

think context is needed for what it

22:41

is cause a lotta people in their

22:43

audience. They're huge, like a dern. Another

22:46

channel has like almost three million

22:48

songs, but whenever it's the tumbler

22:50

like ah, Yearly. Thing

22:53

will come out of like whose trending

22:55

the most They were always like really

22:57

near the top so they were always

22:59

like pushing way above their size and

23:01

their audience is super engaged way more

23:03

than most channels and they put out

23:05

a thing be like we have a

23:07

countdown for a big thing that's coming.

23:09

Super exciting and ever was like oh

23:11

new merged new series, new characters, new

23:13

something and then they came out more

23:15

like surprise it was leaving you tube

23:17

and we're gonna make you pay for

23:19

our content on a site that we

23:22

may. It's. Which is

23:24

not you don't really. High set

23:26

up out of nowhere and then just drop

23:28

that on your audience making. Content.

23:30

That was originally free page is

23:33

an awful idea for anybody. Yeah,

23:36

ah, I'm. Especially.

23:39

In their situation because they

23:41

already have other. Subscription.

23:44

Things like they have a wildly successful

23:46

patriarchy yeah, ah, I'm which. I don't

23:48

feel arms and know because or it

23:51

tells you. Does it tell you how

23:53

much they're making other patriot on on

23:55

their page? But you can find that

23:57

sometimes. ah let's find out

24:00

There is a join free option and I'm

24:02

not really sure if patreon

24:04

shows those people as numbers So

24:07

people saying like they have a really successful patreon because they

24:09

have X amount of members I don't know if the free

24:12

ones count towards that Because

24:14

it could be that so like 5k people

24:16

paying for it, which is still really successful

24:19

minimum You can see how many members they

24:21

have which is which I'm assuming

24:23

this has dropped a bit since their announcement

24:25

So it's thirteen point six K. Let's call

24:27

that fourteen thousand. They're in the way actually

24:30

got five dollars a month I think it's

24:32

gone up since the announcement because people were

24:34

like, oh, I didn't know you had this

24:37

I could be wrong go out Interesting.

24:39

But anyway Their

24:42

lowest here is five dollars a month And

24:45

then ten dollars twenty-five and then a hundred

24:47

dollars a month So

24:49

you can't see who is where of

24:52

those fourteen thousand people but minimum they're

24:54

bringing in 70k

24:57

a month just from the patreon. Mmm Doing

25:00

that all of those are way way way more

25:02

than that. Yeah. Yeah, they're

25:04

probably they're probably bringing in like a

25:06

hundred Yeah, and all of their all

25:08

of their episodes that I've seen obviously

25:10

not everything on the YouTube channel does

25:12

as well But a lot of the

25:15

like main videos that people

25:17

show up for They

25:20

get close to if not over a million

25:22

views minimum I said I saw most of the reason ones

25:24

were all like 900 K 800 K a million Those

25:29

are sizable views Yeah,

25:32

so they Let's

25:34

see. Let's do a little a

25:36

little dive. Did you watch there

25:38

because they sense have released an

25:40

apology Yeah, I

25:42

did not watch the apology. Yeah,

25:45

it was it was decent. It

25:47

was a bit like It

25:50

is a bit weird that you're like you didn't really expect

25:52

people to be this Upset about it

25:54

and saying stuff like oh like

25:56

six dollars like everybody has that

25:59

which I'm like I mean, everybody

26:02

at some point has six dollars, but

26:04

it's like expecting people to give you

26:07

their six dollars that could go towards

26:09

like food and

26:12

anything else which is like crazy expensive

26:14

these days and everyone's hurting for like

26:16

every dollar. Yeah, especially

26:18

when we live in the world

26:20

that we do right now, which

26:22

is every fucking thing is a

26:24

subscription. Yeah. And so it's

26:27

like, yeah, it's not that much

26:29

money if you're the only thing

26:32

that you're subscribing to, but everyone

26:34

else has tons and tons of subscriptions.

26:36

It's like the tone deaf thing of like, oh,

26:40

so you can afford to go out and get

26:42

coffee, but you can't afford this. It's kind of

26:44

like that invader V lady that we talked about

26:46

before where it's like everybody has five dollars. You're

26:48

coming in here watching for free. Yeah,

26:51

because it's allowed. And

26:53

it's the same with them expecting people to pay six

26:55

dollars or something that they were getting for free already

26:57

is like

27:00

it's never worked. That's just bad business

27:03

for anybody in our field. And I get

27:06

there's a lot to it because I get

27:08

that you have a big company. You have like twenty

27:10

five employees. They say it in their

27:12

apology and maybe in the original one that they didn't

27:14

want to let anybody go, which is

27:16

commendable because a lot of times it's like just

27:18

downscale like clearly you can't afford the staff you

27:21

have. You can't afford the productions you have. So

27:24

downscale stuff so you can afford it

27:26

with everyone's salaries, but it

27:28

is commendable to find money elsewhere to

27:31

make sure people don't get affected

27:33

that they don't lose their jobs because everyone's

27:35

losing their jobs these days. But

27:38

yeah, I feel like there's

27:40

just better ways to go about it instead of

27:43

like expecting people to pay

27:46

that much money monthly to pay

27:49

for your stuff when I know

27:51

it just feels really icky to me because they also say

27:53

like how much they spend on their like

27:57

their production. But we don't really have

27:59

hard numbers on that. either so it's hard to trust

28:01

where the money is going, how much is being made.

28:04

Like if you want to enter a good faith argument that

28:06

like we don't want to let people go, our stuff costs

28:08

a shit ton of money to make. I

28:11

feel like you need to be a bit more

28:13

transparent about how much stuff actually costs, how much

28:16

like maybe you don't need to say how much

28:18

people salaries cost for how much you're spending on

28:20

staff, how much I don't

28:22

know I feel like I would like a bit more

28:25

transparency on that for people to feel

28:27

like okay I get it you want to make

28:29

something huge. Yeah but especially

28:32

in their case when they

28:34

weren't adding they

28:36

were taking away. Yeah. Because if they were

28:38

they don't need to be transparent necessarily if

28:41

they're like hey we're doing this other thing

28:43

everything's staying the same here but we're gonna

28:45

have bonus stuff here which I'm assuming that's

28:47

what their patreon is. But

28:50

if you're like hey the thing that you

28:52

were getting for free we're not doing that

28:54

anymore we're putting it all over here behind

28:56

a paywall. Yeah that's true. Then you need

28:59

to be transparent about it. Yeah which is

29:01

interesting that you don't just double down on

29:03

the patreon and say hey our

29:05

stuff is costing a fuck ton of money it's

29:07

costing way more than we thought. We can't

29:10

afford to keep doing it the way we are so please

29:12

sub to our patreon so we

29:14

can keep doing what we're doing so then it's like you

29:16

get bonus content but then everybody who

29:18

was enjoying on YouTube still gets to

29:21

enjoy on YouTube which they have rescinded

29:23

and in their apology talked about that

29:26

they're still putting the stuff on YouTube

29:28

they're just doing it later which is

29:30

like that isn't that the patreon

29:32

or at least that's usually what people do

29:34

on patreon so I don't

29:37

know I guess it's trying to

29:39

fight for better ad rates no you

29:41

wouldn't even be fighting for ad rates because you're doing

29:44

it I'm

29:46

very curious because I saw Charlie's

29:48

video about it as well and he pointed out that 12

29:51

out of the last 19 videos had sponsors

29:53

in them and he

29:56

said that like clearly they're not hurting for advertisers

29:58

which they said they were They were hurting

30:00

for advertisers and like the ever-changing algorithm and

30:02

stuff on YouTube makes it hard

30:05

to kind of do and they want

30:07

to be themselves while not risking ad

30:09

space which I get but They

30:12

don't really do anything that does risk ad space

30:14

unless they want to completely change the content But

30:17

I would be curious if they went ahead and

30:19

it was the six dollars and everyone was going

30:21

to their website and everything Everything went well, would

30:23

they not do sponsorships anymore? That's

30:26

the thing that I was saying about too because I feel

30:28

like they still What I

30:30

I don't know. Maybe I I was

30:33

about to say maybe on YouTube They would keep

30:35

the ad reads there, but that wasn't the

30:38

plan the plan was yeah I can weigh everything from

30:40

YouTube because there's a lot of questions in regards to

30:42

it and how it would have gone ahead and They're

30:44

still going ahead with that I believe but Taking

30:47

stuff to YouTube later so people can have like

30:49

the best of both worlds but

30:52

now you kind of like you can like

30:54

pissed and people cornflakes and a

30:56

lot of people will use this as like you

30:58

showed your true colors moment Yeah,

31:01

it'll be really interesting to see how

31:04

they do From

31:07

now on whenever they release their next video

31:09

how that does but

31:12

I I honestly don't think that they're gonna be

31:14

impacted all that much because like you were saying

31:16

before their fan base is like so

31:19

die hard and so invested in their

31:21

stuff that Everyone was

31:23

disappointed. I've never seen a more

31:25

unified comment section before and Relatively

31:28

like Respectful from

31:30

what I was reading most of the comments

31:32

were very respectful and just like valid criticism

31:34

You know like hey guys, this is a

31:37

bad idea. Please don't do that Yeah

31:39

a lot of people saying like they can't afford

31:41

it and it's like you're my comfort to watch

31:43

and Like I can't afford to watch

31:45

you then if you do that Which is a fucked up

31:47

thing to think about and the fact that you don't think

31:49

about that before you put up that kind of statement It

31:53

just kind of feels like Like

31:55

spitting in the fans faces a little bit Yeah,

31:59

whenever you do this kind of thing and then you

32:01

ask people to pay for what you do. Like I

32:03

get it, they do bigger production stuff than you or

32:06

I would do like as a

32:08

regular content. It is hard to

32:10

maintain wages, it is hard to maintain production,

32:12

keep stuff the way you want it, keep

32:14

building it, making things

32:16

bigger and better all the time but I

32:18

just don't think this is the way you go about it.

32:21

Maybe kick start a season

32:23

of a show or something

32:25

like that. I don't know, but just asking your

32:28

audience to pay for it and then take it

32:30

all away is not the right move. No,

32:33

not at all and that is sad.

32:35

I didn't really think about that where

32:37

it's like their audience

32:39

is really dedicated and so

32:41

somebody being like, yeah, I used to

32:44

watch you but I couldn't

32:46

afford to anymore. I would like to

32:48

watch you but I can't afford it.

32:50

Getting bored of content is one thing

32:52

but being too poor to be able

32:54

to watch something. Yeah, just like no,

32:57

I'm not or just like not being

32:59

willing to give the

33:01

five or six dollars every month is

33:03

just like, yeah, well, I used to

33:05

get this for free and now I

33:07

have justified doing that. It doesn't make

33:09

sense. To their credit, in their apology,

33:11

they did upfront immediately say sorry. They

33:13

took accountability, they addressed the concerns that

33:15

people brought up. I guess as

33:17

far as apologies go, it pretty much is exactly

33:19

what you're supposed to do or supposed

33:21

to do. What people

33:24

want you to

33:26

do. We'll

33:28

see how it goes. I don't know. I

33:31

don't know their content all that much. I did think

33:33

they were just cool dudes. I

33:36

was like, I'd love to get to meet you at some point and hang

33:38

out and chat. I mean, I still would

33:40

but it just seems

33:42

like a really... It just seems tone

33:45

deaf for their audience. It feels like

33:47

something some other Christian creator

33:49

would do who doesn't care about their audience but

33:51

they seem like they genuinely cared about their community

33:53

and what they do and their community is... Their

33:56

community being so feverish

33:58

about their content. is the reason they get to

34:00

do what they do. Yeah. And it's

34:03

not like it, because I think about it

34:05

a lot with, like,

34:07

there's projects that I want to do, or like, if I

34:09

wanted to do an animated show

34:11

or a TV show or something, like, I'm willing to

34:13

put in money of my own to do it, but

34:16

it's also just still crazy

34:18

expensive to do these things. So it's

34:20

like, do you kickstart something? Do you

34:23

ask sponsorships to come in? Do you

34:25

ask publishers to pay for half of it? Like

34:27

all those conversations always happen whenever you're doing a

34:29

bigger production, but I

34:32

would never just outright take

34:34

something away from the audience and then

34:36

ask them to pay for it. Like,

34:39

it would always have to be something new. It

34:41

would have to be something that was warranted for

34:43

the price. I think if they came

34:45

out and were like, we want to do a season something of

34:47

our show, and we

34:49

need X amount of money to do it, I

34:51

think people would have gladly been like, absolutely here.

34:54

The people who can afford it

34:56

will, but you shouldn't be asking the people

34:58

who can't afford it to still front the money.

35:00

So same with anything like thank you, miss. Like

35:03

I'm always like, please donate as much

35:05

as you can, but I'm kind of hoping the

35:07

people who can afford it come in instead of

35:09

asking all the people who can't give money to

35:12

fund that bill. At the end

35:14

of the day, it just kind of seems like this

35:17

wasn't very thought out at all.

35:20

It seems like they got really excited and

35:22

they were like, oh, that would be really

35:24

cool. Let's do that. And

35:27

didn't think about it at all. Which is

35:29

a bit weird because it doesn't happen overnight. Like you

35:31

have to build a website. Yeah,

35:34

no. So it seems odd because,

35:37

you know, they're well versed in the internet.

35:40

It seems really weird that they wouldn't have that

35:42

immediate thought of like, people

35:45

are probably going to be pretty upset about

35:47

this. Or they

35:49

think some people are going to be

35:51

upset about this, but the majority of

35:53

people will be fine and then miscalculated.

35:56

I do love the top comment on the video

35:59

is just, oh, Icarus. Wow,

36:04

how can you say so much with two

36:06

words? The

36:08

video has 1.9 million views, 37,000 likes and 242,000

36:10

dislikes. Oh

36:17

boy, and 81,000 comments. Jesus.

36:20

Yeah, but I mean... Damn.

36:23

That's what happens, you put something out, it's

36:26

up to you if you want to take the

36:28

valid criticism, move on, be better about it, or

36:31

you want to just be like, hey, fuck you, we're

36:33

doing it anyway, and it

36:35

doesn't matter, people will pay regardless, and it seems

36:37

like they're doing the former rather than being

36:40

greedy about it, so we'll see what happens

36:42

with them. Hopefully they

36:44

don't... We will see. Hopefully they

36:46

didn't kill their darling, their beautiful thing that they

36:48

made that everyone was so excited about, and people

36:51

will be a bit sour on it for a while if they

36:54

manage to get past it, but hopefully it doesn't like taint

36:57

people's perceptions forever. Yeah.

36:59

No, I don't think it will, and

37:01

honestly, again, I haven't watched the actual

37:04

apology video, but

37:06

the first thing that I noticed going to their

37:08

channel seeing that the apology video is only three

37:10

minutes long is like a

37:12

green flag in my mind, because I'm

37:14

like, okay, you didn't just pad this

37:16

out by like, you know, trying to

37:18

overly apologize, you probably just sat there

37:21

and said what happened, and said

37:23

what you needed to say, and that's it, you didn't need to

37:25

make a 45 minute long

37:27

apology video. Yeah, and I think YouTuber apologies

37:29

are a thing that people meme all the

37:31

time, and they do kind of live in

37:33

a bubble, because the apology

37:35

is one thing, you can have a great apology

37:37

and a PR team that works on it with

37:40

you, but it's kind of like how you act

37:42

after the apology that will actually show if you

37:44

care or not, or if you're actually going

37:46

to make changes, or if you realize

37:48

you fucked up and I

37:50

don't know, everyone deserves second chances.

37:53

Yeah, no, They're not bad, dude. Unless

37:55

They fucked up once before, and then you're

37:57

not allowed a third one. Never

38:00

to strike world baby, never research

38:02

has ever asked to the is

38:04

that comes with leisure to the

38:06

gates of hell. Who.

38:08

Who. Still loaded,

38:11

You watch your step. Only

38:13

assistance of parenthood. Slow of

38:15

it as a schoolboy, keeping

38:17

our eyes on you. And

38:19

that's not to the money.

38:21

wordplay. We mean it. Yeah,

38:23

we're gonna up old the

38:26

Justice. Your fault for your internet

38:28

folder and lot harder. And

38:32

harder on that. Followed

38:35

a little robot. Hold on

38:37

to can be a second seven. Been

38:40

thinking about things like that caused till

38:42

the costs are already asked. Know you

38:44

have you think it about deaths? By

38:47

now. Ah, speaking of content

38:50

things, ah, I'm about to

38:52

come back to the old

38:54

You to the old Sunder

38:57

don't he apparently mail some

38:59

changes? Good. I. Have

39:01

fun announcements. I'm

39:03

can be taking my channel and doing a

39:05

subscription model. On a

39:07

different plan for her that they've made

39:09

good every. also people like it. I'm.

39:12

Alone I don't I don't think there's a world where

39:14

to go poorly. No. One's going

39:16

to be supportive and people having money. That

39:19

can wash your friends and can watch for see. This

39:23

has been want to hurt you can

39:26

all of us for free. But

39:29

a few Feds new motto of

39:31

damn straight off the dome baby

39:33

The hell yeah, that's Improv for

39:35

you does. And we do that

39:37

while we do. Ah,

39:39

I'm excited though I feel much

39:42

more refreshed. I feel like the

39:44

changes that I'm gonna make are.

39:46

Going. To be less stressful for me

39:48

even though. It's not really

39:51

gonna change much on how. Like.

39:53

I work every day but a decision that

39:55

the thing when you announced changes are you

39:57

announce like whenever people are like update blah.

40:00

Don't do that. No one cares. And you're

40:03

not gonna get a fuse on something like that. You gotta call

40:05

it something else. You gotta

40:07

call it... This

40:09

year I'll die unless... Something.

40:14

I uploaded the comic book thing on my

40:16

second channel. Because I was like, I don't

40:18

know if people will watch this on the main channel. And it

40:21

was just like, it's just me talking about a comic book. So

40:23

I was like, finally being honest. And

40:25

it's like one of those YouTuber faces where you're

40:27

kind of sad. And I was like,

40:29

oh you freaked me out. I'm like, okay good. Good.

40:34

But if this was a

40:36

real big like crazy change,

40:40

don't you think that I would put it on my main channel?

40:42

Not this channel. When have

40:44

you posted on that channel? Ever? Have you?

40:47

I used to do shorts on it. Oh.

40:49

Wait, which channel? Spadicy.

40:53

Let's find out. I even had someone hired

40:55

that was doing it for a long time.

40:58

Oh, Spadicy. Here he is.

41:01

Video. Finally being

41:03

honest. Oh yeah baby. There you are. Did

41:06

you click it? Look at you. Yeah,

41:08

I did. I want my...

41:10

Just right now, just then. Let's see what the top comments

41:12

are. I want the comic book

41:14

to do well. Being threatened by Jacksepticeye

41:16

with a gun is not something I was expecting to happen

41:18

today. But here we are. Haha.

41:20

Jack with a Glock is something I never

41:22

knew I had to see. Knowing firearms are

41:24

illegal in the UK proves to us that

41:26

Jack is a permit to carry a firearm.

41:29

Oh yeah. Because that's what you take away. It's

41:31

that this is a real gun and I pulled

41:33

it out on camera. What am

41:35

I, Charlie? I

41:38

was about to say the same thing. I

41:40

don't even know if that's a real gun,

41:42

but he's from Florida, so probably. Probably? Honestly,

41:45

you can do anything you want there. I

41:49

guess by the time that

41:51

this episode comes out, things

41:53

will have happened anyway. But I am

41:55

also starting another channel to

41:58

make things like... What are you calling the trash? channel

42:00

it's called Eve that's

42:03

good yeah the period on it because everyone always

42:05

has to have like another thing

42:07

it's like the name that everyone calls you

42:09

is kind of like the the

42:12

standard now for everyone's second channel so it's

42:14

like everyone used to say Spadisi because of

42:16

Jesus on Felix's video yeah everyone

42:18

calls you Eve Evelyn's doing one with puzzles

42:20

and she's calling it goobis I'm

42:22

like goobis

42:24

my it's

42:27

just Eve period is

42:29

the name the channel banner is me

42:34

with my Bob Ross face

42:36

and there's just text that says whatever

42:38

video whenever I want yeah

42:45

so it's just gonna be like

42:47

the main channel stuff will be the main

42:49

channel stuff but I just wanted a

42:52

place to just put stuff up that

42:54

is just whatever and there's no consequences

42:57

and that is nice a lot of people are like

42:59

you could just do that in your main channel but

43:02

unless you've had a main channel

43:05

that you've uploaded stuff to that

43:07

has like underperformed you're like oh

43:09

man I was really excited about that

43:11

and it's like it's hard not to

43:14

care because it's just part of the job

43:16

but having a second channel

43:18

where you can just brain dump I think

43:20

is really fun yeah and so

43:22

I'm gonna just post once a week on

43:24

the main channel that it'd be like the

43:27

quote-unquote higher production stuff yeah and

43:29

then the other channel will have

43:31

multiple videos going up a week

43:34

probably but it'll just be whatever

43:36

I feel like like

43:38

I went to the Ren fair a

43:40

couple days ago and I have this

43:42

old Sony like

43:45

mini DV camera and

43:47

so I just like filmed a bunch

43:49

of random stuff and so

43:52

like that'll go up and it's

43:54

just like a fun random video at the Ren

43:56

fair that would probably not do very well on

43:58

the main channel but it just matter It's going

44:00

up on the second channel and it was fun to film and

44:02

it'll be a fun little whatever. Yeah,

44:04

so I'm excited about that. It doesn't really

44:06

change anything about like my day-to-day, but it

44:08

takes pressure off and it'll make

44:10

the main channel look better because like you said,

44:13

sometimes stuff will just underperform. Well, let's kind of,

44:15

I was going to say like years

44:17

ago when the algorithm wasn't as strict

44:20

as it is now, that you

44:22

could just do that on your main channel and everything

44:24

was fine. But now you have

44:26

people making like gaming channels, react channels or like

44:29

game theory made like

44:31

style and fashion, the

44:33

same thing, food. And it's

44:36

like, one thing for like

44:38

branding, yes, but it's also like because they

44:40

want to stick in those algorithms and they

44:42

don't want to fuck it up and there's

44:44

like an unspoken thing that if

44:46

you upload something that's not your main algorithm,

44:48

like my algorithm is gaming and

44:51

you have to like try for a while to

44:53

shift your algorithm and then you don't know if it's

44:55

going to work. And it's just

44:57

kind of annoying that that's such

44:59

a prevalent thought now is that you

45:01

have to think about that stuff instead

45:04

of like algorithms are the depth of

45:06

creativity. And I feel like having

45:08

a second channel where you can just do whatever

45:10

you want, fills that creative well a bit more.

45:13

I can already see the comments

45:15

now of people who like

45:18

don't really watch my channel anyway, but they just want to come in

45:20

and leave a shitty comment and then bounce of

45:22

like, if you really like cared,

45:25

you just post everything on your main channel and

45:27

do what you want. And it's like, that's not

45:29

how this works when you do it for your

45:31

job. That's not how the algorithm

45:33

is actually because you care about your channel that

45:35

you're not doing it. Yeah.

45:37

Also, I, who cares? Fuck them. Fuck

45:40

them. Fuck them, dude. And not

45:42

like, oh, fuck audiences. But like, those are

45:45

the types of people that are just trying

45:47

to drag you down for you trying to

45:49

have fun with yourself. So trying

45:51

to drag me down, man. If you let me, you gotta

45:53

let me spread my wings and fly. This

45:55

is your space. This is your area. This

45:58

is your area, dude. I've never

46:00

seen that comedian that does that joke.

46:03

Yeah. You can't let her talk to

46:05

you like that, dude. This is your space. This is your

46:07

area. So good. I'm excited

46:09

though. Yeah. Yeah. I

46:13

think it'll be good. And I think also, like,

46:15

because you do have to think about these things

46:17

when you do it for your job, it's like

46:19

my channel has been around for almost 12 years

46:21

now. And so creating

46:24

a new channel that will, you

46:27

know, it's not going to do crazy well, but it'll do

46:29

better than 99.999% of brand new channels on YouTube. Yeah.

46:34

So I think that will probably help just

46:36

whatever. Yeah. Because there's

46:38

also this thing like, well,

46:41

we don't even know if it's real that if you upload

46:43

stuff, God, God

46:47

is definitely real and he's an algorithm.

46:50

Because look at the fucking shit stains

46:53

you created. I think there's

46:55

a thing where like, if you upload stuff on your

46:57

channel that does poorly, and it kind of has like

46:59

a knock on effect, and if you

47:01

continuously upload stuff that does poorly and people aren't watching

47:03

it, then it doesn't get surfed to their sub feeds.

47:06

It doesn't get suggested. It doesn't go to

47:08

browse features. It doesn't. Yeah.

47:11

It has like this awful knock on effect. It's almost

47:13

like poison that kills your channels. And that's

47:15

why you see so many people do extra

47:17

channels because they want to do creative things.

47:20

But the way YouTube is right now is that you can't

47:22

be as creative as you want on your channel. So

47:24

you see so many channels double

47:27

down on one type of content. You have

47:29

people who do horror content. All they're doing

47:31

is horror content because they're like, this hits.

47:33

There's a plethora of them. It's

47:35

in my algorithm. It always gets suggested. I'm going to

47:38

keep doing that. People

47:40

who do like only Fortnite content. I'm

47:42

sure they don't always want to just do Fortnite content. Everyone

47:44

would love to be able to do lots of different things.

47:47

But you can't do that anymore because you get locked in. Locked

47:50

in syndrome. Yep. It's

47:52

just the way it's the platform is. And

47:55

the way algorithms work. Like

47:57

the stronger algorithms get, the worse that kind of stuff

47:59

is going to get. Yeah, everything is very homogenous.

48:01

Or as Yeah. My part said,

48:03

siloed. Everything says it's own bubbles.

48:05

Yeah, everything says it's own bubbles. I was talking

48:07

to my therapist about it the other day though,

48:09

where I'm just like, yeah, I just don't really

48:11

care. Although I mean like there's parts of me

48:14

that care obviously what audiences have to say. But

48:16

I was thinking about just like the comments that

48:18

people make where they'll just kind of

48:20

shit on you for XYZ thing. And

48:23

it's like, okay, like you know what it

48:25

is like as a viewer of things. But

48:28

you don't know what it's like on this side of things.

48:30

And you actually don't know how this works

48:33

because you are not a

48:35

creator that does this for their job. Yeah.

48:37

Unless you are a creator that does this

48:39

for your job and you are throwing out

48:41

valid criticism. But most people, it's

48:44

like, okay, like some

48:46

of your advice is good and valid. But a lot

48:48

of the times it's just like you don't know what

48:50

it's like doing it on this end. And

48:53

how the algorithm works and how all this shit

48:55

works. So you have to unfortunately

48:57

pander to the algorithm. Yeah. It's kind of

48:59

like a 50... And I think after... Go

49:03

ahead. You go ahead. I

49:05

was going to say after I like rebranded and stuff,

49:08

I think both

49:10

the algorithm and my

49:13

viewers don't really know what to

49:15

expect from my channel because it's just

49:17

a bunch of different stuff. And so it'll

49:19

make it more streamlined frictionless.

49:21

That's kind of cool. I

49:24

was going to say it's kind of like a 50-50 thing because

49:27

our job is kind of to

49:29

like do these things without the audience having

49:31

to really know about it or hear about

49:33

it. Or you can like share as much

49:36

as you want or need at

49:38

the time. So it's like sometimes it's like audience to

49:40

say stuff and I'm like, I get it because you

49:42

don't really understand how

49:45

I operate. You don't really understand where my brain

49:47

is at. So the only way you

49:50

can react is the way you're reacting. And

49:54

I don't really like the video I did

49:56

about my Retirement and like when I

49:58

would do it and things like that. The

50:00

people in the comments are just really, really

50:02

nice. But somebody click the section talking about

50:04

depression and suicide. And then

50:06

uploaded that to Tick tock which is totally

50:08

fine, Liberty Bell the time. But all the

50:10

comments there were like oh boo hoo, he's

50:12

a millionaire who plays games, are living, and

50:14

he's crying about it and I'm like damn,

50:16

I think a while ago that with a

50:18

bottle didn't bother me, but. I'm. Like

50:21

I get it because. To.

50:23

You You probably are struggling with money

50:25

because every serving with money these days

50:27

it's a completely fair. Things I luckily

50:30

don't have to struggle with money anymore.

50:33

So our we're we're coming from

50:35

with. Our. Mentalities is

50:38

completely different. And.

50:40

I completely get like from your

50:42

perspective dodges how this looks and

50:44

I can't really fault anybody for

50:46

that. Like I know it's

50:48

not true. And. I know there is

50:50

part of me that slights. I do have a

50:52

really good jobs and I get paid way too much

50:54

for it and I should. Like.

50:57

I need to remind myself constantly that like

50:59

this is more fun than it seems. Because.

51:01

Algorithms getting your heads, conversations with other

51:03

people get in your head. I.

51:06

Don't have any friends in day to day life

51:08

that I hang out with repeating sophie but we

51:10

don't see them like everyday. Like I don't have

51:12

people that I hang out with. Possibly.

51:15

Or don't have like. A. Sounding board

51:17

for anything. Mom.

51:21

Says human Nature as. Yeah. I

51:24

think that people sometimes forget that.

51:26

That is. The most basic thing

51:28

about human life is that everyone

51:30

is this. Living a different life isn't

51:32

the some has different stuff going on, although

51:35

sometimes it's kind of unfair to be like

51:37

say have this in this they have to

51:39

be happy. It's I grew Yeah, that's not

51:41

how that works as I I think that's

51:44

where the like money doesn't buy happiness kind

51:46

of thing, which I I can a hint

51:48

that phrase because. Money. Is definitely

51:50

afford the lot of things that can make you

51:52

happy and the moments and fleeting happiness is better

51:55

than no happiness. Death.

51:58

But. Also like I think people just need. I

52:01

think, think back on humans as

52:03

tribes. We just, I'm going full Joe

52:06

Rogan now. When

52:08

we were apes, I think people just

52:10

need friction. They need a struggle. They

52:13

need like some sort

52:15

of friction in their life to give

52:17

it purpose and meaning. You need something overbearing

52:20

to work against, to feel

52:22

like you need like a struggle to feel

52:24

like you're accomplishing stuff. If

52:26

everything's great and everything's going well, it's kind of

52:29

hard to know as a human to what to

52:31

do. Like if your financial problems

52:33

are all solved, like you still have all your

52:35

emotional baggage that you need to deal with. And

52:38

now it's like, now I'm lucky enough that

52:40

I have the money that I can afford to get

52:42

help to figure that out. Or like,

52:45

if you have bad teeth, like money

52:47

definitely buys happiness in terms of like

52:50

fixing your teeth. And

52:52

like money can buy happiness for therapy.

52:54

It can buy medical stuff. Hmm.

52:57

It's a, it's a scale kind of

52:59

thing. Like if, if you have

53:01

like financial problems that are weighing a bunch of

53:04

stuff down, then the other

53:06

stuff won't seem as big of an issue.

53:08

But if you suddenly remove that thing, then

53:10

everything else is going to

53:12

shift. But I, it applies

53:14

to like everything. But I, I remember hearing that

53:16

like money doesn't buy happiness stuff back when I

53:18

was living in a cabin and I was poor

53:21

and depressed. And I'm like, things

53:23

are way better now than they

53:25

ever were back then. Like this is literally

53:27

the best version of my life. And

53:30

a lot of it is because of money. I

53:32

get to live in a cool house. I get to paint

53:35

miniatures. I get to like take time off and not have

53:37

to worry about work all the time. So

53:41

I understand it. When people say that kind

53:43

of stuff, I'm like, yeah, I get it. I would probably

53:45

feel similarly if I was in that situation. Hmm.

53:49

Look at us having personal growth and stuff. Yeah.

53:53

Isn't that crazy? I just don't like when

53:55

YouTubers make the audience their problem. It's

53:57

like, oh, stuff isn't going well. It's like, oh, it's.

54:00

My audience is the problem and I

54:02

don't know. The audience is why you get to do

54:04

what you do. They're why you're here.

54:08

You don't know everything to them

54:10

but definitely owe a lot

54:12

to them. Without the audience,

54:15

there's no one there watching. Who

54:17

watches the watchmen? Who

54:19

watches the watchmen? If somebody

54:23

tells a joke in the forest and a tree falls

54:25

down, is that funny? I guess

54:28

it depends. If a YouTuber

54:30

stops uploading, does he even exist?

54:34

If a YouTuber goes in the forest, shh,

54:36

shh, get out of there. Oh, God. If

54:40

a YouTuber goes in the forest, we have a

54:43

big issue coming in about two months. Yeah,

54:46

we have an apology going. We have

54:48

an apology train. Well, not only that,

54:50

but it's so weird. People

54:54

are getting cancelled as a whale fall.

54:57

You know how when a whale dies, it falls to the bottom?

55:00

A whale fall is technically an ecosystem that

55:03

so many other things thrive off. So

55:05

it's like a YouTuber dies and

55:07

so many other channels are like,

55:09

no, no, no. Content

55:12

for me. Me greedy. Me get. Yeah,

55:15

we're all like little crabs. It's

55:22

a hard line to walk because I want to

55:24

talk about current things like the watcher thing, but

55:26

then it's also like, I don't want to add

55:28

to a problem, though. Like, how

55:30

do you talk about drama without adding to

55:32

drama? Yeah. You pull out a gun

55:34

and threaten people. Certain.

55:38

Are you afraid to hold it realistically because you're

55:40

afraid we'll get in trouble? Oh,

55:44

God. Oh, God. Anyway,

55:49

who watches the watchman? We'll never know.

55:51

Who mails the mailman? $6.99 to

55:53

find out. God.

55:55

Fuck. Sorry. Never

55:58

know. Do you have $6.99? Of

56:01

course you do, Mr. Second Channel.

56:03

Probably only doing it because you

56:05

want the dough balls. Exactly,

56:08

you want to hire RPM, you want to put

56:10

sponsors on there, you want to do this and

56:12

that and the other thing. And all this shit

56:15

fucking asshole. I just want to be able to

56:17

swear on my channel again without second guessing myself.

56:19

I went through a two year period where every

56:21

time I swore I was like, you could kind

56:24

of see me like climb up and hold back. Because

56:26

I'm like, did that just fuck me up? And then I'm like

56:28

in my head about it, if you could

56:31

see me on a trampoline in here. And

56:34

then whenever I upload on a second channel, well

56:37

lately I'm like, I just want to do what

56:39

I want to do and not really worry about

56:41

it and whatever. So now I'm

56:43

swearing a lot more. And not because I'm

56:45

like, haha, fuck duty, it's funny. But

56:48

not because you're 11 and you just learned what swears are.

56:50

Yeah, but it's just part of my lexicon. I used to

56:52

do it all the time and I hate that the algorithm

56:54

kind of drove it out of me. And I'm like, I

56:57

want to, I want to find who me is again. I

57:00

want to, I want to fucking be fucking

57:02

me, dude. Shit ass. Fucking bitch, kids. So

57:05

the couple that I won't say, because I will

57:08

instantly get you demonetized. Yeah,

57:10

but like, I don't like

57:13

that. I don't even care about getting demonetized. I'm like,

57:15

if a video doesn't earn money, I'm like, fine. I

57:17

have plenty of others that are earning. I

57:20

have earners out there. My fucking pimp

57:22

channel. I've got

57:24

earners, dude. I've got big pals

57:26

out in that pasture. But

57:28

it's when it takes it out of sub feeds

57:31

and it takes it out of suggestions and people

57:33

can't even see the video. I don't like that

57:35

it kills traffic. I love

57:37

seeing comments that are like, whoa,

57:39

I just stumbled upon your video. I didn't know

57:42

you were uploading anymore. Yeah.

57:44

And it's like, yep, I'm still here.

57:46

I'm at somebody, I went

57:48

to get coffee the other day and somebody behind the counter,

57:51

lovely guy, crazy cool tattoos, really cool

57:53

looking dude. And he was like, oh

57:56

man, I used to watch you all the time as a kid. And I was

57:58

like. You're

58:00

a grown adult and then he was like

58:02

he used to watch you all the time when I was like 10

58:04

and I'm like 20 now and I was like God

58:12

Maiming meme where he grows immediately Yeah,

58:16

I went to the Ren fair the other day like

58:18

I said and it was really

58:21

Nice to meet a bunch of people. I was

58:23

getting stopped constantly, which was very nice But

58:27

I was like a little sad Because

58:30

every time I got stopped and I

58:32

understand and I am very glad this

58:35

thing was so impactful Every

58:37

single person only said like I loved

58:39

unis honest and it made me a little sad where

58:41

it was like Oh, that's cool

58:44

that you liked the I'm very glad that you enjoyed the

58:46

thing that I did But

58:49

I kind of feel like nobody watches Anymore

58:52

is it's better to be known for

58:54

something than nothing Yeah,

58:56

you made you made an impact Somehow and

58:58

that's all any of us in this career want to do

59:00

because I got I get those comments all the time now

59:02

We're like I used to watch you all the time and

59:04

they used to bother me for a while But

59:07

now I'm like, yeah, that's fine I like

59:10

an impact on your life and I was

59:12

like your comfort like other things were for

59:14

me everyone wants relevance and everyone wants to

59:16

be like as relevant as possible all the

59:18

time, but I mean

59:21

I rode that ways man and I

59:24

beat myself up about it all the time about Not

59:27

enjoying things more and I keep coming back to

59:29

that quote that that drummer said in the drummy-o

59:31

video Which is like I'd have more fun if

59:33

I wasn't so hard to myself I'm

59:37

like, yeah, that's that's my life. I need to

59:39

get outside of my own and bubble It

59:42

burst my bubble. I don't want to be bubble boy

59:44

anymore. I Want

59:46

to catch diseases and infections? Yeah,

59:49

no like I don't know I a

59:51

part of me is like I am very glad that it was so

59:53

impactful But there is the other

59:55

thing that's like I wish that someone would be

59:58

like, oh, I love your video is now.

1:00:02

But I also get what you're saying.

1:00:04

Yeah. That is true. Well, people

1:00:06

also say that to me like, like

1:00:09

I watched you a long time ago and I'm like, that

1:00:11

was when I was putting in my most effort. Like

1:00:14

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna pretend

1:00:16

that I'm still putting in the same amount of effort

1:00:19

as I used to back then. So obviously people are

1:00:21

gonna fall away and not watch as much and I'm

1:00:23

doing things that I want to

1:00:25

do more so than just like playing absolutely

1:00:27

everything that comes out. So, makes sense.

1:00:30

Yeah. Like, and it's the

1:00:32

same with you. Like you're doing stuff that you want to

1:00:34

do now. You're not uploading every day like Unas Honest was.

1:00:36

You're not, you're not making a

1:00:38

spectacle out of it as much as you did when

1:00:40

you did that. So it's

1:00:43

understandable. But people are still there.

1:00:45

Hey, people still care. They're

1:00:48

still out there. There's all those

1:00:50

people out there. Hey, all you beautiful

1:00:52

people out there. Oh, fuck. Oh, hello. I

1:00:54

still got it. It's still in there. I

1:00:56

don't know who

1:01:01

that guy was. It's

1:01:03

like, it's a little map patty.

1:01:06

It's really map patty actually. I

1:01:08

just said it. Hello, internet. Oh,

1:01:12

I was map patty before map

1:01:14

patty. It's so funny.

1:01:17

Actually he might have been doing that stuff back then. I

1:01:19

don't know. He said he was doing YouTube

1:01:21

longer than I was. So yeah, but

1:01:23

yeah, it's also now like Venom,

1:01:26

Spider-Man and Spider-Man two. I

1:01:30

keep thinking about that. Like every time he showed up

1:01:32

and he was like, he's going to wish he never

1:01:34

came to New York. And I

1:01:36

was like, that's the only way I can do

1:01:38

Yuri low and fall is by being map pat.

1:01:40

Tell me how many calories I can have. Bitch.

1:01:44

It is very similar. It's crazy,

1:01:46

but it's just, I didn't realize

1:01:49

how much my, my origin story

1:01:51

was seeped in map pat. Oh, it

1:01:53

was solid snake. Yeah. Oh,

1:01:57

war has changed. Our war

1:01:59

never changes. depending on what game you're playing. Do

1:02:02

you watch the Fallout TV show? I

1:02:04

started the first episode the other night. I really

1:02:07

like it. And I don't even really care about

1:02:09

Fallout. I like it a lot so

1:02:11

far. Apparently, since

1:02:14

the release of the show, Steam

1:02:17

sales for Fallout 4 have increased by 7,000%. Yeah,

1:02:22

and they're like hit peak players for Fallout

1:02:24

76. Yeah.

1:02:26

That's wild. It was not a surprise.

1:02:30

Seeing even just the first episode did make me

1:02:32

go like, I just kind of

1:02:34

want to play that opening sequence in Fallout 4

1:02:36

again. I literally did that after I watched the

1:02:38

first episode. I did that and

1:02:40

then I went into the town afterwards and I was like,

1:02:43

I forgot that I don't really want to play this game. Yeah.

1:02:46

I was like, I forgot that I have to look at

1:02:48

my map and go into every building and check everything. And

1:02:51

that's cool the first time, but I'm like, that's not what

1:02:53

I want to do right now. Yeah,

1:02:55

I do kind of wish that there was more in,

1:02:57

I mean, I

1:02:59

don't know how the rest of the show goes, so maybe they flash back

1:03:01

to it. I have no idea. I'm assuming they don't. But

1:03:04

more of like everyone like getting into

1:03:06

the vault and stuff like that. That

1:03:08

is my favorite thing in

1:03:10

media is when you have an

1:03:12

apocalyptic event and then you have the whole episode

1:03:14

or the whole opening sequence is dedicated to the

1:03:17

downfall. The downfall of humanity

1:03:19

is my favorite like media

1:03:22

trope in an apocalyptic setting. So

1:03:24

I'm very excited to see the new Quiet

1:03:26

Place movie. Did you watch the start of

1:03:28

part two? Bet you didn't. No.

1:03:32

Bet you forgot. You should put a reminder

1:03:34

on your phone. It's

1:03:36

fucking epic. Fucking epic.

1:03:38

I should just watch that whole movie.

1:03:40

Yeah, that's true. But I'm like, people

1:03:43

don't always have the attention for a full movie.

1:03:47

Oh, you know, I did start doing the other day

1:03:49

though. Jelky. And no,

1:03:52

sort of that ages ago, it's increased

1:03:55

tenfold. I do have a story about

1:03:57

Jelky that I could tell. going

1:04:01

okay really

1:04:03

threw me for a loop there

1:04:06

no I started I watched the rise of the planet

1:04:08

the apes the other day and watch all those movies

1:04:10

again before the new one comes out hell yeah everything

1:04:12

I did that last year we watched all three of

1:04:14

them in the cinema room Oh

1:04:17

apes together good wrong bro so excited

1:04:19

for the new the whole time I

1:04:21

was just sitting there clenching my butt

1:04:23

waiting for him to just go no

1:04:25

yeah no and then Draco's

1:04:28

like so

1:04:31

good I love that half of that movie is

1:04:33

not very good but the second half is really awesome

1:04:35

I love that movie that's that's like a comfort

1:04:37

movie for me I am

1:04:40

I think they're great I think the new one's probably going

1:04:42

to be it but yeah

1:04:45

we'll see CG is always really good CG

1:04:48

is always very good the first one

1:04:50

the CG gets markedly better in the

1:04:52

second half when Caesar is just at

1:04:54

the ape sanctuary because everything is just

1:04:56

like controlled well it's also

1:04:59

easier to see CG around CG when

1:05:02

you need just him in a house surrounded by

1:05:04

real people it's like how did

1:05:06

we accomplish this

1:05:09

fidelity you know you're watching this like I know

1:05:11

how it's still it holds up

1:05:15

pretty well the second half holds up very

1:05:18

very well the Maurice the

1:05:20

orangutan looks fucking real

1:05:22

yeah he just looks real he looks the

1:05:25

best of all the reasons a real fucking

1:05:27

monkey it must be easier to do when

1:05:29

it's like covered in hair so you're not

1:05:31

like seeing skin and textures and it's just

1:05:33

oh I thought that hair was the hardest thing no skin

1:05:36

is usually the hardest thing to do in

1:05:38

CG and games

1:05:41

and stuff because you have to do like

1:05:43

translucency you have to do subsurface scattering you

1:05:45

have to do there's like there's so many

1:05:47

layers to skin and everyone's is different and like

1:05:49

the consistency and the density of your skin and

1:05:51

because your skin is slightly see-through

1:05:53

so but

1:05:57

the second movie CG in that movie fucking rules

1:06:00

Mm-hmm. That's why they wanted them all. I love

1:06:03

that movie Leading up to

1:06:05

that on dude. I'm so excited about

1:06:07

movies Wolverine and Deadpool.

1:06:09

Oh, yeah I'm

1:06:12

excited. I want to I want to I want to You

1:06:15

know that premiere I went to I want to poke

1:06:17

my manager. Go. Hey I

1:06:21

Desperately want to do something with Ryan Reynolds for that I'm

1:06:23

like can we please get together again even if it's just

1:06:25

to show up and you to tell me to fuck off

1:06:29

That's a good TikTok But

1:06:31

I am so cool. It would be so cool

1:06:33

I mean, I'm not trying to downplay Ryan Reynolds

1:06:35

at all I really love Ryan Reynolds a lot

1:06:37

but if you're doing promo for the movie I

1:06:39

also be really cool to meet Hugh Jackman

1:06:41

you do like Wolverine so I can

1:06:44

see Wolverine is my favorite superhero. Yeah Not

1:06:48

to toot my own horn or anything, but I did

1:06:52

reply to Ryan's story about

1:06:54

the trailer and I said dude looks so fucking

1:06:56

cool I can't wait and he wrote

1:06:58

back. It's my favorite one yet. Thanks pal And

1:07:01

I'm like, huh if he thinks it's

1:07:03

his favorite ones and it's gonna be awesome It's

1:07:06

gonna be so fucking cool because

1:07:08

that wasn't public he could say

1:07:10

anything in the DMS Well, he wouldn't

1:07:12

say that it sucks Well,

1:07:15

yeah, but but you know I

1:07:18

really want to do something for

1:07:20

that movie. It's gonna be so cool. Give

1:07:23

him a little poke. Hey, man Him

1:07:26

it's up to everybody else last

1:07:29

time was true Sony Maybe

1:07:33

no 20th century Fox and

1:07:36

I had dealings with them But I don't

1:07:38

really have a contact at Maraville for anything.

1:07:40

So Is

1:07:42

he what happens? It's

1:07:44

gonna be cool. I'm excited. It's gonna

1:07:46

be great. I love Wolverine. Yeah, I'm

1:07:49

very excited There's so many references in

1:07:51

the trailer already sometimes

1:07:53

it's like Sometimes too many

1:07:55

references are like but for Deadpool. I'm like

1:07:57

you're gonna nail it. I love it the end of the trailer

1:08:00

It was like cocaine is the one thing Feige said

1:08:02

that we can't do Yes,

1:08:07

but I can't It's

1:08:11

gonna be so fun. I hope there's a ton of jokes like that

1:08:13

in it. Oh, I'm sure there

1:08:15

will be cuz Deadpool Yeah,

1:08:18

it's gonna be great. I'm pumped to see

1:08:20

Hugh back in the back of the old

1:08:22

saddle. Yeah It's

1:08:24

a little sad that it's like. Oh the Logan

1:08:26

one ended and everyone was like Farewell,

1:08:29

and I was like now you're back so

1:08:32

it kind of sullies it a little bit But

1:08:34

I think they'll handle it well, and I think it would still

1:08:36

be yeah well,

1:08:38

it seems like it's Like

1:08:41

every Marvel movie as of

1:08:43

late a little multiversey Oh, yeah,

1:08:45

they're like jumping through a thing and stuff.

1:08:47

They have the TVA from Loki, so it's

1:08:50

all like fixing timelines but

1:08:52

I love that that makes the Fun

1:08:56

time jump thing at the end of Deadpool 2

1:08:58

where he shoots himself in the head I

1:09:01

love that that is now technically canon

1:09:06

And they'll probably like work around that to be like that's

1:09:08

how he finds Logan at one point or like a version

1:09:10

of him I Did love

1:09:12

that line where he's like unless you want to

1:09:14

take a breath through your forehead. Yeah I

1:09:19

Think that's Ryan Reynolds strong suit is sitting

1:09:21

in a room. I'm coming up with one-liner

1:09:24

quips like that is like

1:09:26

oh His

1:09:29

claws of whiskey dick Yeah,

1:09:32

I have never heard that term before I'm sure

1:09:34

it's said plenty in some

1:09:36

places, but that's a great one Oh, you've

1:09:38

never heard of whiskey dick. No. Oh, yes

1:09:40

great. Oh It's gonna

1:09:43

be fun Ryan come on the podcast

1:09:45

Ryan have Sean come and do a

1:09:47

thing and Shawn You can you

1:09:49

could dress up like Wolverine and you could say

1:09:51

let's I do have a Deadpool mask I could bring

1:09:53

it with me. Oh I'd

1:09:55

be like get who ha ha and then just

1:09:57

take off the eye parts I'm

1:10:00

just staring through the eyes. Oh,

1:10:03

if I can do the whole interview like that

1:10:05

or just like pretend that it doesn't exist, I'm

1:10:08

gonna pitch that to people and make

1:10:10

it happen. Manifest. I can't say manifest

1:10:12

destiny because I forgot that that's not

1:10:15

what that is. It sounds like that's

1:10:17

what it should be and I think technically that's

1:10:19

what it is but it was used horribly. So

1:10:24

I won't say that. But

1:10:26

manifesting. I thought

1:10:28

that it was very very funny you

1:10:30

saying that because you're not from America

1:10:33

and they've been America obviously that was

1:10:35

a big deal but why would you

1:10:37

know anything about that? We have a

1:10:39

big history of colonizing in Europe but

1:10:42

we haven't used that term. Huh?

1:10:46

Yeah. Colonization in Europe? UK

1:10:49

Netherlands back to back champions baby. See,

1:10:53

you need to tell me

1:10:55

that England has colonized other

1:10:57

places? Hey, what language are

1:10:59

you speaking? No! It's

1:11:04

like whatever about Louis CK because he

1:11:06

got shit on in

1:11:09

public and everything and I don't know much about that situation but

1:11:11

I remember watching one of his things and he's like, he's

1:11:14

talking about which religion won and he's like, which

1:11:17

religion won? What year is it? I'm

1:11:21

like, that's the best way of describing

1:11:23

that. That's such a good joke. That

1:11:27

is pretty good. Well

1:11:29

anyway, should we wrap this bitch up? Put

1:11:31

a little bow on it. Send it off

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to our subscription site. Send

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this bitch off to pasture. Sure

1:11:39

thing, Mego. Hell yeah. Well

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