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serious about being curious. What?

2:01

I'm taking you to the vet

2:03

to get hypnotized! Apparently

2:06

hypnosis can help people kick bad

2:08

habits and you're practically people,

2:10

so I know it'll work. Oh,

2:12

I'm so excited. You're finally gonna

2:14

stop chewing my shoes. Oh,

2:17

come on, Penelope. Don't play innocent

2:20

with me. Batting your

2:22

eyelashes isn't gonna work. Look, we all

2:24

know you're chewing my shoes. I mean,

2:26

who else could it be? Hmm,

2:30

that's what I thought. Come on,

2:32

Penelope. Penelope,

2:34

no, no, don't run away. Stay

2:36

up. Okay, fine, I'll follow you.

2:39

What the? Mark? Sandman?

2:42

What are you doing with

2:45

my shoe in your mouth?

2:49

You're chewing my brand new

2:51

Jordans. Why? I

2:53

read chewing tough things is great at

2:56

strengthening your jaw. And

2:58

I need a really strong jaw to

3:00

get through my Taco Tuesday chomp-a-thon. Plus,

3:03

I listen about to chew my own

3:05

brand new Jordans. Penelope, I am so

3:07

sorry. Can you ever forgive me? I

3:10

owe you a major apology. Ah!

3:13

And Mark, you owe me some

3:16

new shoes. Ah-rooh! You're

3:24

listening to Brain's On from APM

3:26

Studios. I'm your host, Molly Bloom,

3:28

and my co-host today is Jasmine

3:30

from Minneapolis, Minnesota. Hi, Jasmine. Hi,

3:33

Molly. Today, we're exploring

3:35

hypnosis, what it is and how

3:37

it works. It's a topic we've

3:39

gotten a few questions about. Is

3:42

hypnosis real? If it's even real,

3:44

how does hypnosis work? That

3:47

was Elijah in Columbia, South Carolina

3:49

and Dennis in Kirkland, Washington. So,

3:52

hypnosis might seem like something straight out

3:54

of a comic book, but it's actually

3:56

a real practice. We're going to start

3:58

by talking about hip... hypnotherapy, which is

4:01

the type of hypnosis doctors use.

4:03

Hypnosis is something doctors and other

4:05

medical workers have been doing in

4:08

various forms for thousands of years.

4:11

They can use it to help patients

4:13

with all sorts of things, from being

4:15

less afraid of needles to feeling less

4:17

anxiety and stress around a surgery. It

4:19

can even help pregnant people stay calm

4:22

through childbirth. But the question

4:24

is, how does it work? You're

4:26

getting relaxed-sided. Very

4:29

relaxed-sided. Brains

4:31

on producer Rosie DuPont? Why

4:34

yes, Molly Bloom. I

4:36

sense you and Jasmine are getting

4:38

relaxed-sided to talk about... Hypnosis!

4:42

Woo! Relax-sided? Relaxed and excited

4:44

at the same time. It's

4:46

my new favorite way to be. It's sort

4:48

of like... Eating a massive bucket

4:50

of pink cotton candy whilst trying

4:53

to float motionless on

4:55

my back. In a

4:57

warm turquoise pool. And I'm

4:59

real excited to talk to you about how

5:02

hypnosis works. So, to

5:04

start, let's talk about what hypnotherapy

5:06

is. I want an

5:08

expert opinion, so I called up Dr. Daniel

5:10

Cohen. Or as he likes to be called,

5:12

Dr. Dan. He's

5:14

a pediatrician from Minnesota, which means he's a

5:16

doctor for kids. And

5:18

he's been practicing hypnosis with his patients

5:21

for years. I asked him how

5:23

he defines it. Normal

5:26

hypnosis is learning how to

5:28

utilize natural abilities, imagination,

5:31

pretending, daydreaming, how

5:34

to get to those on purpose in a

5:36

controlled environment with a clinician who

5:38

is an expert in that area, and

5:41

to use that for solving a

5:43

particular problem. So, basically, hypnosis

5:45

is when a person enters a

5:47

relaxed state of awareness similar to

5:50

daydreaming with the help of a

5:52

doctor. They're not sleeping, and

5:54

they know what's going on around them. But

5:57

they feel very chill. Once

6:00

they're in this calm state of mind,

6:02

they're more open to suggestions, which makes

6:04

it easier for them to change their

6:06

thoughts and behaviors. So it's

6:09

a way to just open up your mind to doing

6:11

things differently? Exactly. Another way to

6:13

think about it is, hypnosis is

6:15

made up of three ingredients.

6:18

Dissociation, absorption,

6:20

and suggestibility. Cool. Let's

6:25

break down those words. Dissociation

6:28

means like zoning out or playing

6:30

pretend. Or dreaming while you're awake.

6:33

Mm-hmm. So during hypnosis,

6:35

you can be sitting on your

6:37

bedroom floor, but in your imagination,

6:40

you might be in the rainforest. And

6:44

it'll actually feel like you're

6:46

surrounded by trees and moss

6:48

and sloths. Then

6:52

there's absorption. I know this one. Absorption

6:55

is when you're so caught up

6:57

in your imagination, you don't notice

6:59

what's going on around you. You're

7:01

totally absorbed in what you're doing.

7:04

Sort of like when you're reading a book

7:06

and you're so lost in the story, you

7:08

don't hear your mom calling you for dinner.

7:11

And once you're totally absorbed or

7:13

in a trance, most

7:15

people relax and open

7:17

up to other people's suggestions. Ah,

7:20

that's the third word you mentioned. Testability.

7:24

That means you're very open to new ideas

7:27

from other people. Right. So

7:29

if a hypnotherapist tells you your arm

7:31

feels as light as a balloon, your

7:34

arm might start to feel like it's floating.

7:38

Or if your eyes are closed and they tell

7:40

you your eyelids are so heavy

7:42

you can't open your eyes, you

7:45

might start to feel like you can't open them.

7:48

Ooh, that one makes me nervous.

7:50

Yeah. Can someone who practices

7:52

hypnosis make someone do things they don't

7:54

want to do? Nothing

7:56

happens unless You decide and

7:58

you're willing to do it. And want

8:00

to do it. It's up to you

8:03

because. You. Are the

8:05

boss of your body? So.

8:07

People have to want to do the

8:09

things suggests it to them exactly. So

8:11

hypnosis isn't sleep and you don't lose

8:14

consciousness, all the doctor can do is

8:16

allow you to do something you already

8:18

want to do deep down. And.

8:21

This is usually how hypnosis

8:23

works, but different people respond

8:25

in different ways. I've. Heard

8:27

about this. For some people it works like a

8:29

charm, but for others it can be really tough

8:31

for. Hypnosis work. Less scientists

8:34

have been studying what makes people

8:36

easy to hypnotize and it seems

8:38

like a trait that passed down

8:40

from one generation to another. Which

8:42

means if your parents are easy

8:44

to hypnotize, you might be to

8:46

exactly. In general though, people who

8:48

are easy to hypnotize tend to

8:51

trust people more and use their

8:53

imaginations a lot. Jasmine.

8:55

Do you think you would be easy to

8:57

hypnotize now? because I see like I'm more

8:59

aware of what's going on around me? What

9:02

about you, Molly? I think I couldn't be

9:04

hypnotized either. I'm kind of cynical about certain

9:06

things and I don't think it would work

9:08

on me, but I do like to a

9:11

magical so maybe it would. Who knows. Well.

9:13

I think I'd actually do really

9:15

easy to hypnotize because I'm very

9:17

imaginative s I use my imagination

9:20

to get relax site it sometimes

9:22

I'd like to imagine myself dribbling

9:24

down a soccer field as fast

9:26

as I can side look up

9:28

I soup. I thought. And

9:36

then I lean in and stuff a real. On

9:38

a rose. And chance.

9:42

Whole.

9:45

Back on track. guess. I.

9:49

Owe. So to enter a hypnotic state,

9:51

you have to be at least a

9:53

little bit hypnotized the bowl which almost

9:56

everyone is, and you have to have

9:58

a good relationship with your. There

10:00

you have to trust them. Once

10:03

you're comfortable your doctor will usually do

10:05

a test run see can see how

10:07

it works and feals doctor dance at

10:09

it. might go something like this. Close.

10:11

Your eyes. And. Put.

10:14

Your attention completely and totally. and the

10:16

sound of the air flowing in the

10:18

room. With

10:20

a receipt or air conditioning they can

10:23

hear it. Let your head nod when

10:25

you. Hear it. A

10:28

slow node comes from the subconscious wind

10:30

and it's It's not like you would

10:32

do if you were not in your

10:34

head. Hunters is like slow motion and

10:37

Tv or in a movie. So then

10:39

I asked them to turn it off

10:41

and they're married. Let's say goes from

10:43

zero to ten. turn up the sound

10:45

to about sad. And

10:49

I was their skins enough then they know I didn't.

10:51

Have done it. And that's the proof

10:54

that this is a hypnotic experience to

10:56

head most to not automatically without a

10:58

request and then turn it on the

11:01

way up to Ten. Blast. Walls,

11:06

There and you can't stand it anymore. The

11:08

turning right down to zero. And

11:12

then their heads. Not. And then they

11:14

open their eyes as he would you think? And

11:17

the kid always says. That. Was

11:20

costs. So to enter

11:22

a hypnotic state, people like Doctor

11:24

Dan will ask patients to focus

11:26

on different images, sounds as sensations,

11:29

take deep breaths and. Doctors

11:32

do with ever helps you focus

11:35

and slipped into an imaginative world.

11:37

Once you're there your doctor will

11:39

gently suggesting to you to help

11:41

you solve problems and achieve. Your

11:43

goals, Doctored. And talked about some

11:45

of the way as hypnosis has helped. His patience

11:47

hypnosis is very helpful for a lot

11:49

of. Problems. The kids

11:51

run into in their lives. Bed wetting is

11:54

one of them. Headaches is another

11:56

one coming. Eggs. Different

11:58

kinds of pain. Are

12:00

all helped very easily

12:03

by hypnosis. I

12:05

actually asked a patient Doctor Dance to

12:07

join us in the studio today. He

12:09

did hypnotherapy with Doctor Down for a

12:11

while and helped him a time now.

12:13

he practices self hypnosis at home. Self

12:16

hypnosis is when someone puts themselves into

12:18

that super focus, suggestible state that we

12:20

just talked about instead of working with

12:22

a doctor. Oh.

12:24

That must be him now. How relaxed.

12:27

Same. Things. Are

12:29

coming. Everyone this is Josh

12:31

from Maple Grove, Minnesota. Hey welcome

12:33

are so glad you're here! Hey

12:36

So. It's. Lovely. To have

12:38

you here in the studio sleep in! Learning

12:40

all about hypnosis and hypnotherapy today and we

12:42

are very interested in touch you about your

12:44

experience with it. Guess I'm going to tackle

12:46

on. sweets. So. When

12:48

did you first try hypnosis about two

12:50

years? Go on Twenty twenty one face

12:52

why does use that hypnosis just on?

12:54

I didn't really want to but my

12:56

parents during Twenty Twenty one I my

12:58

parents send me up for it and

13:01

I met doctor Down for the first

13:03

time because those exile d during Two

13:05

thousand Twenty one and help me lot

13:07

So when you went in for the

13:09

first time how did it feel. To.

13:11

Be hypnotized for the first so. Really

13:14

cool place. It's his

13:16

fault. Is very different experience than

13:18

anything. I'm really suck the for but

13:20

as sary calming and you just your

13:22

religious in a different world when you're

13:24

like. Really? In the state

13:27

of mind. And did it help you

13:29

with your anxiety center right away? Or was

13:31

it a process where you had to kind

13:33

of do it a few times. It was

13:35

more of a process like after a while

13:37

it's ugly, a few weeks or months to

13:40

really get down and then just I can

13:42

do whatever I want. and then it really

13:44

started helping me was that he was. it

13:46

scares the first time it yeah cause it's

13:48

It's a bit weird cause you know like

13:51

in movies and shows us either little like

13:53

Stopwatch using says you are going to vote

13:55

as the but nothing like that whatsoever. It's

13:58

just about he just like. Air

14:00

and you just. Get

14:02

in that state of mind New D

14:04

C. Deep breaths and new and she's

14:06

very calming. But yes, I was a

14:08

bit. Scared the first time doing.

14:10

Knowing their hypnotize? yeah I'd to sure. I'm

14:13

swimming in a lake and is very calming.

14:15

And there's turtles you can do whatever you

14:17

want to like. You played chess, a turtle

14:19

on his successes and like you just write

14:22

their daughter and it's it's really sustaining cool

14:24

as as with a turtle that fake authors

14:26

that as as someone you've actually rats and

14:28

he has that lot of and like swimming

14:31

and then I get out of the glades

14:33

in the like ours is a turtle and

14:35

then I goats it was a turtle. Play

14:37

chess but suffer from been there are you

14:40

are. You could it just as a

14:42

turtle. Ps. you live without much as

14:44

beat me a law says that really

14:46

annoying as has practice center so it

14:48

is the lake kind of the place

14:50

you go usually yeah years ago that

14:52

to their and doctor demo said it's

14:54

like flipping channels or wherever you want

14:57

like symptoms of playing baseball or some

14:59

some to just walking along a beat

15:01

sometimes I'm in my school on during

15:03

the test or something is it can

15:05

be anything that article I wondered if

15:07

if you close it described the difference

15:09

between may be. Tried meditation vs.

15:11

try and self hypnosis. Yeah, yeah,

15:14

I think meditation is more like

15:16

a slight years like a self

15:18

reflection, but self hypnosis? It's kinda

15:20

like that, but it's more of

15:23

an. Imagination. Some

15:26

okay, his almost like empty in your mind.

15:28

Yeah and then he has suffered. Nurses selling

15:30

your mind was. Good. Stuff. That's

15:33

so cool. Can you satisfied with the way.

15:35

It. Does help with your anxiety link. What about

15:37

it is hop? Like. If I

15:40

go to that like or as and playing

15:42

a baseball game at it like is just

15:44

those things that lights. That make

15:46

me joyful like normally like was

15:48

I hypnosis and is doing that

15:50

like. Has unused the not as

15:53

says that when I'm playing baseball the like

15:55

it's the difference. Think if I'm like at

15:57

school or something and I'm trying to like

15:59

be more. Homes or with my siblings

16:01

yelling consider in l a time it's

16:03

like when you're they're just a really

16:05

does like once you stop doing it

16:08

and you go back to. Normal.

16:10

It's just like you. Feel.

16:12

You really do have it under. Control. It's

16:14

like is it's like a ten in

16:17

was. Exiled. It really brings you back

16:19

to like a story that's really cool.

16:21

So it's almost like you're able to

16:23

travel to a place where your com

16:25

and the and like teaches your brain

16:27

like you can be common. Every once

16:29

get very close. As you go

16:31

really in cellcept nurses Jessica question

16:33

some people can just fall back

16:35

into a chair and is do

16:37

as easily as to like lay

16:40

down I close my eyes and

16:42

as Occidental me yesterday breathe and

16:44

and notice when you're breathing in

16:46

your breathing and. Good thoughts and

16:48

good feelings and embracing out

16:50

and it's I keep imagining.

16:52

Like breathing in breathing and

16:54

like feeling that and and

16:56

freezing out. the bad bad

16:58

feelings. And breathing in the good ones since.

17:00

Really cool Just thank you so much

17:02

for sharing this of us today. Really

17:04

pc that their thank you bye bye

17:06

bye. Okay I gotta go to. All

17:09

this talk about turtles times has

17:11

has made me really excited to

17:13

try hypnosis myself. But first I

17:15

have to go by a taxidermy

17:17

to rat for my uncle was

17:19

why it's a secret. Today. Okay

17:23

see our bags. Taxidermy

17:25

to rat. That's a bit of a

17:27

mystery. He ready for another one. Jasmine?

17:30

Yes. great. Then it's time for that.

17:38

Be. Ready for the mysteries? Yeah, It's.

17:49

What? Do you think. Ah,

17:52

Maybe. Write some pots and

17:54

pans like banging together in

17:56

the kitchen Moon theory that

17:59

guess. A

18:01

break. I got and it's

18:03

like soon flocking down on some finity

18:05

he still here. The person him first.

18:09

Yeah, I think I still do

18:11

a person hands. And and something

18:13

isn't so. And what scenario would

18:15

someone be having pots and pans

18:17

and and pop? India's A. Maybe

18:19

they like chess. I don't really

18:22

know what scenario but I think it's and

18:24

like said say who, maybe they're cooking a

18:26

big dinner, exhaust is and then they just

18:28

wanna sit down on a chair some the

18:30

and they need a break. I am on

18:32

a pop on this chair for a second.

18:34

yeah that's my breath and then I'll finish

18:36

them as potatoes see and hear it again.

18:39

Get another chance to and who the answer

18:41

at the end of the so so stick

18:43

around. He

18:49

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18:51

About. Matches those incredible little wooden

18:53

sticks that make fire when you

18:56

strike them on a surface. and

18:58

we want. To hear from you if

19:00

you. Could come up with a new name for

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masses, but. Would. It be maybe start

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with dirt or flames. What

19:08

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19:13

Ah yeah, that's a very. Exciting

19:15

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to death brings on its or. And

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keep listening. You're

19:49

listening a brain size. I'm Jasmine

19:51

and I, Molly and today we're

19:54

talking about hypnosis. We. Started by

19:56

talking about hypnotherapy, which is when

19:58

doctors use it. To help

20:00

their patients. Hypnosis. Is

20:03

when you're guided into a com unique

20:05

state of mind sort of like zoning

20:07

out or plane pretend and you get

20:09

there by being totally absorbed in whatever

20:11

your imagine him and when you see

20:13

them mind. You. Become more open

20:15

to new ideas and suggestions and with

20:18

the help of a doctor, Hypnosis can

20:20

help you achieve your goals. It's

20:22

a nice and learn self hypnosis to help

20:24

yourself at home. There's a bunch of research

20:27

out there that shows hypnosis can help some

20:29

people's brains feel better, but some people still

20:31

don't even think it's a real. So.

20:33

Let's talk about why some people think about it

20:36

this way. Well. For one, movies

20:38

and television make Nossa seem a

20:40

little strange are unbelievable. You might

20:42

have seen hypnosis in movies like

20:44

Captain Underpants in the Incredibles are

20:46

incorrect, Ten Slight Pokey, Mine and

20:48

Bugs Bunny. And then Manda sounded

20:50

a bit like this. Was

20:53

a pretty coin of

20:55

go and you were

20:57

do what you are

20:59

told me after me

21:01

don't believe in fairies

21:03

to believe series he.

21:07

Looks mostly at it and relax your.

21:09

Must Zach large

21:12

was. says.

21:14

Focus on the watch. Let's. Talk

21:17

about Dnc. It's. But.

21:20

Here's the thing that hypnosis you

21:22

see in movies and on T

21:24

V is not very accurate. people's

21:26

eyes that spend like pinwheels. When

21:29

that happened, ties and likely said

21:31

earlier. it isn't mind control you

21:33

can't make someone does something they

21:35

don't want to do. for closest

21:38

is also sometimes used in live

21:40

magic shows. Sometimes a performer will

21:42

get dressed up and hypnotized people

21:44

on stage and from as an

21:46

audience just to allow them these

21:49

performers he's. A lot of the

21:51

same techniques doctors use. only they

21:53

aren't trying to help the people

21:55

on states. Yeah, they're just trying

21:57

to entertain the audience. So. some

21:59

time these performers will try to make what

22:01

they're doing seem like magic. But

22:04

it's not. So where did these

22:07

ideas about hypnosis being magical come from?

22:10

Franz Mesmer! Magical?

22:13

What poppycock? Woah,

22:16

the goose of Franz Mesmer? Tis

22:18

I, and I'm hardly

22:20

magical. I'm Mesmerizing.

22:25

Yeah, to mesmerize someone means to hold

22:27

their attention so they can't look away.

22:30

It is hard not to look at you. You've

22:33

got mesmerize attaching the tea and

22:35

a really cool purple cape. Oh

22:38

stop Jasmine, you're making me

22:40

blush. And the word mesmerize

22:43

comes from... Me! Franz Mesmer!

22:45

My name! Call me Franz.

22:47

The Mesmerizing Mesmer! Franz

22:50

Mesmer is often called the father

22:52

of hypnosis, even though the

22:55

term hypnosis wasn't invented until decades

22:57

after he died. He became famous

22:59

for using a type of hypnosis

23:01

to help medical patients feel better.

23:03

But getting people's brains into that

23:05

imaginative focal state that we call

23:07

hypnosis has actually been around for

23:09

much, much longer. It was practiced

23:11

in ancient Greece and Rome and

23:13

has been a part of shamanic

23:16

traditions around the world for centuries.

23:18

But Franz Mesmer made it popular

23:20

in Europe, and because

23:22

he believed in some other pretty

23:24

strange ideas, people thought he was

23:26

a little strange too. How

23:29

very rude. Sorry, but

23:31

you believed in animal magnetism.

23:33

Of course I did. I still do. It

23:36

makes no sense! Animal

23:38

magnetism is the theory that all

23:40

humans have invisible fluid from the

23:42

stars flowing through thousands of tiny

23:45

pathways in their bodies. When people

23:47

got sick, Mesmer believed that something

23:49

was blocking these invisible fluids, and

23:51

it was his job to get

23:53

them flowing again. To do

23:56

that, he'd wave his hands in front of his

23:58

patient's bodies or touch them with magnets. and

24:00

send them into transits. A trance is

24:02

a lot like that dissociative state we talked about

24:05

earlier. And he called this

24:07

practice mesmerism. I

24:10

wanted to make the name of my technique easy to

24:12

remember. Mesmer. Mesmerism.

24:15

It's all about branding. Molly, you

24:17

should start practicing bloomerism, the practice

24:19

of podcasting with pizzazz. I'll

24:22

think about it, but as I was saying,

24:24

it turns out animal magnetism was not based

24:27

on real science. We do

24:29

not have invisible fluids from the

24:31

stars flowing through our bodies. What?

24:35

Nope, no invisible star juice. But

24:38

Mr. Mesmer, you were onto something. Of

24:40

course I was. Mesmerism, or the

24:43

practice of sending his patients into trances

24:45

and suggesting things to them, was helping

24:47

people get better. So throughout

24:49

the 1800s, psychologists kept trying

24:51

different versions of mesmerist techniques, and

24:54

all the while, patients kept seeing results.

24:57

So it was decided that mesmerism was

24:59

in all hocus pocus. And

25:01

it was renamed hypnosis. And

25:03

it's still being practiced today. See?

25:06

Still totally handsome. Definitely

25:09

great taste in capes. Well

25:11

I must be off. Places to go. People

25:14

to...haunt. See ya

25:16

fronds. Bye bye. So,

25:20

mesmerism's flowing cape, hand waving, and

25:23

wild eyes made an impression. Today

25:26

we can see stage performers and

25:28

cartoons use versions of mesmerism's personality

25:30

and style in their spectacles and

25:32

shows. But mommy, there

25:34

are other reasons why people are

25:36

not so sure about hypnosis. Right,

25:38

because even though research shows that

25:41

hypnosis works for some people, we

25:43

don't know exactly how yet, or

25:45

why. Scientists have studied the

25:47

brain to try and see what is

25:49

happening when people are hypnotized. And

25:52

they found that hypnosis does change

25:54

the way our brain works. For

25:56

example, when people are hypnotized and

25:59

told that... something won't be as painful as

26:01

they think it would be. The part of

26:03

their brain that usually lights up and says,

26:05

ow, when something hurts, it doesn't

26:07

react as much during hypnosis. And because

26:10

of that, the people actually feel less

26:12

pain. So something is shifting

26:14

in our brains when we go into a

26:16

trance. Our brains are stepping

26:18

back, being less judgy, and

26:20

doing things differently. But we don't

26:22

really know why. Hypnosis is a

26:24

bit of a mystery, because when

26:26

it comes to the brain, there's

26:28

still a lot to figure out.

26:30

And mysteries make some people uneasy.

26:32

But they make me real

26:35

excited. All this hypnosis

26:37

talk is making me want to

26:39

try out Rosie's technique of combining

26:41

thrilling excitement with total relaxation. Woo,

26:44

me too. Want to go

26:47

meditate on a roller coaster?

26:49

Yeah. Let's go. Hypnosis

26:56

is a combination of three mental

26:59

states. Dissociation, absorption,

27:01

and suggestibility. Which

27:03

means it feels like dreaming while

27:06

you're awake. You're totally lost in the

27:08

movie of your mind. And

27:10

feeling more open to doing what people

27:12

suggest to you. People can't make you

27:14

do things you don't want to do

27:16

through hypnosis. And doctors who use it

27:18

to help their patients are more like

27:20

coaches who help you achieve your goals.

27:23

We don't know exactly how it works,

27:25

but we know that for many people

27:27

it does. That's it

27:29

for this episode of Freezer. This

27:31

episode was written by Rosie DuPont

27:34

and Lou Barron. It was

27:36

produced by Molly Bloom, Ruby

27:38

Guster, Anna Goldfield, R.

27:40

R. Woldis-Bosse, Anna

27:42

Wegel, and Mark Sanchez. Our editors

27:44

are Shannon Totten and Shael Farzon,

27:46

now designed by Rachel Breeze with

27:48

engineering help from Alex Simpson. Beth

27:50

Perlman is our executive producer. The executive

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is in charge of APM Studios, our Chandra

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Kamati, Alex Shaffer, and Joanne Griffith. Special

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thanks to John Hamilton, Kristen Mundine.

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machine. As like one of those contraptions were like

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end of the routine there was a pot.

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