In episode 2 Suhaiymah discusses the binary of Illegal/Legal Migrants with Helen Brewer. Helen is a member of the "Stansted 15" who were a group of non-violent human rights activists who took action to stop a deportation flight leaving from Stansted Airport, UK on 28 March 2018. The discussion looks into how "legal" and "illegal" are constructed and what happens when we think beyond that binary.