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0:37

Hi, I'm Courtney

0:38

Ak. And I'm Benadie. Welcome to

0:41

Brenda call me, but before

0:43

we get started, I would like

0:44

to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land

0:46

on

0:46

which we are recording. The gaticle

0:48

people of the urination. Hi,

0:51

Brenna. How are you good?

0:53

Should we start up with like a catch up

0:55

or some sad news

0:57

or where should we go?

0:59

Let's do catch up. Okay. Yeah.

1:01

Well, there's several things I

1:04

wanna catch up one week. You know, I've

1:06

been a champion of heartbreak high. Uh-huh.

1:08

And it was announced this week that

1:10

they're gonna do a season two. which

1:13

is very exciting because you're gonna be in it.

1:15

Well, I'm trying. I wanna play the

1:18

And here's reason why you were so vocal about

1:20

it. Trust me. the substitute teacher.

1:22

Oh, yes. Well, that's my pitch to anybody

1:24

who makes heartbreak high out there. Like, you teach

1:26

cross dressed or would you only crossbow

1:29

light? I'd moonlight as a cross dresser. Yes.

1:31

would like teach at Hartley High as a substitute

1:34

teacher. And then

1:36

the problem is you look too young. No one believes you're

1:38

a teacher.

1:38

Thanks, Brenda. No. I could be one at

1:40

sub

1:41

mean, you're forty. What are the don't I believe

1:43

it? What's the teacher that when

1:45

you, like, fresh out of of

1:48

the college of university. And you're,

1:50

like, interning? Student

1:52

student teacher. Exchange. Exchange student.

1:54

I

1:54

could be a student teacher. I will be I could

1:57

be experienced. Abuouda should've been an exchange

1:59

student from Sweden,

1:59

hello? I could be even then.

2:02

I'm it's secretly revealed that I'm forty years old.

2:04

Exactly. Anything hot. school.

2:06

Would you hang out trying to be one of the cool moms? Yeah.

2:11

You have the baits on the back? Oh, no. I could

2:13

be the bait dealer. Speaking of baits. Yeah.

2:15

I I do have to, you know, address something.

2:17

Oh. I might be a bit happy today because I

2:19

have a quick break then. Congratulations. Thank

2:22

you. Three day days? It's

2:24

actually four days. Are

2:26

you on patches? So I've got a plan. Oh. I

2:28

might need to go on the patches. I'm worried I'm going through

2:30

the menopause. Oh. I've had a breakout.

2:32

I'm all hormonal. For the last

2:34

week, my skin's

2:35

been all, like, funny and I don't know why

2:37

I might have upset my microbiome or

2:39

my acid mantle or something like that.

2:41

No. I reckon it might

2:43

be from, like, contact, like,

2:46

from a pillow. So I'm gonna watch all my pillow

2:48

cases. What is this? It's wrong with your persona.

2:50

got a twat a cup. Yes. You've got a twat a cup.

2:52

I've got a twat it. It's

2:55

a little hashtag. Absolutely I

2:57

made that and I picked

2:59

it up numerous times and never notice.

3:01

Not realize what's a totter cup. You have a hashtag

3:04

for a handle on your totter cup. Bye

3:07

bye. Congratulations on putting

3:09

vaping. If there's anything that I can do to

3:12

emotionally or physically or spiritually

3:14

support patients, please. Just patience. Okay.

3:16

If we're out, like, say,

3:18

on Saturday night at Halloween and

3:21

we're, like, hanging out and you, like,

3:24

ask someone for their vape or you

3:26

are vaping? I should just Just just let

3:29

me just let you don't look at your

3:31

judgey eyes just so that that we

3:33

may, but I'm judging you deeply and heartbroken.

3:35

No. No. Don't worry. I'll be judging myself. this

3:38

is the problem with quitting. There's never a

3:40

good time to quit exactly. Like,

3:42

you say, oh, god. You know, and I've kind

3:44

of, you know, I've started getting, you know, back on

3:46

my bandwagon and, like, and and, you know, eating healthy

3:48

and and doing everything. And and and then

3:50

it's like, you know, yeah. But then it's, you know, I don't

3:52

wanna, like, you know, have substitute cravings for,

3:55

like, you know, food, like, eat badly or whatever. And

3:57

then it's like, you know, oh, it's Halloween this

3:59

week, and I wanna, like, go out and her fawn

4:01

and that won't, you know, my my god

4:03

will be down. But my it doesn't matter. Just it's

4:05

just never a good time. Never a good time. And, you know,

4:07

it doesn't matter how many times you fall off the wagon

4:10

about how many times to get back on. What

4:12

about Do you know, like, the binary

4:15

nature of hang

4:17

on. Here

4:22

we go. So I've got a

4:24

a frog in my throat. He was a prince this

4:26

morning. What

4:28

about instead of the binary nature being

4:30

on the wagon, off the wagon? It's like a

4:32

sliding scale like your gender identity? What

4:34

if it's like Sure. Not sure.

4:38

Sure. Whatever whatever you say. Okay.

4:43

Brenda, Hannah has given

4:45

you something specific to read. We

4:47

don't like Hana the producer. The

4:49

producer? So remember a few weeks

4:51

ago when we had

4:53

Hana Conda on the show, I'm

4:55

reading. I'm I'm I'll do my best

4:57

reading from a script. Oh, hang on.

5:00

So remember a few weeks ago

5:02

when we had Hannah Konda on the show,

5:04

And she had a plea to the

5:06

people to send her AA0I

5:08

see it with her image. Well, the listeners seemed to

5:10

have gotten a little bit confused. and

5:12

Brenda from IT has gotten an eyeful.

5:15

The producers are going to show us

5:18

now. Oh, no. 000

5:20

Are we going splunking through the damming? We

5:22

are going splunking. Are we guys Oh, deer.

5:24

Oh, god. This is

5:26

a family show. Cannaconda. There

5:29

is a Is it the only one or the more?

5:31

Just the one. One is the one. Oh, where is

5:33

it from? ah

5:35

Damn. Adam. Adam has

5:38

sent in a nude.

5:41

It's a cock shot. Yes. It's a cock

5:43

shot. There's an erect penis.

5:45

It is standing up straight. It is more

5:47

than one hand. He has one hand of the base, and he

5:49

has got room for upper hands. Yeah. He

5:51

could fit three hands.

5:54

on that. So that's quite a it's surface

5:56

sized.

5:56

There's also some there's

5:59

some

5:59

fabric of I'm I'm assuming a

6:02

shape that is sort of crumpled in artistic

6:04

style. It is a black and white nude.

6:06

Mhmm. There's like artistic, music

6:09

care, and some body hair, in the air. It is

6:11

lovely. Very well centered. It

6:13

is. And it feels

6:15

like it's it feels like it deserves me

6:17

diluting it. It's rather straight. It's

6:19

very straight. It's very straight. It's got a slight

6:21

bend forward. Yeah. Like, it's pretty much

6:23

straight. some reason I think they're

6:25

in a hospital bed. Yeah.

6:27

It could be. What's at a hospital?

6:29

It's a home.

6:32

Maybe they're in hospital because they

6:35

injected a, what

6:37

do you call, vibra. There's a

6:40

thing that makes it painless heart,

6:42

a vasodilator, into

6:44

their penis, and they're in hospital, and

6:46

they're waiting for the nurse to come and give

6:48

them the thing that will

6:51

turned down their direction. In

6:53

the meantime, they were listening to Brenda call me to pass

6:55

the time and they thought, oh, I'll take a photo of her little

6:57

hands. little hands. I always have four that under little hands.

6:59

Yeah. We'll forward that onto her. Oh, god. Do you

7:01

remember when did you have did you do my line of

7:03

ten? Yeah. I used to

7:05

buy the injector hand off the Internet. Did it

7:07

give you a long lasting erection?

7:09

Oh my god. When I was on the injector

7:11

hands, I used to carry a book bag

7:13

around with me. because you

7:16

would just get an erection for

7:18

no reason and not just an erection

7:20

like rock hard. Like it

7:22

was like my penis was trying to

7:24

break out of itself. It

7:27

was it was oh,

7:29

I know. I remember when one

7:31

particular time, that

7:33

I was doing maintenance in

7:35

the weed department on hair spray,

7:37

and I was on the the the

7:39

jobs. And at

7:41

the what the the the shift is like four hours, I

7:43

think. And I was

7:44

just sitting down. So, you know, I had just we did we're

7:46

sitting down. And I noticed

7:48

that I had an erection doing weeks

7:51

you know, in the wig room at the lyric theater.

7:53

I'm not sexy at all. And

7:55

and I was like, okay. Whatever. And then, like,

7:57

the shift finished and I've realized

7:59

I still had the same around. Yeah.

8:04

Full on. Full on. I'd have to,

8:06

like, like, carry a bag

8:08

just to, like Oh, yep. Like when you're

8:10

in school Yeah. Remember when you're in high

8:12

school? Science. For me, it was in science class in

8:14

the science lab, the test you I don't know

8:17

what it was, but, you know, you'd be wearing

8:19

like your what what was it? Not stubbies,

8:21

but like the dress short. Yeah. Yeah. And

8:23

I'd be sitting it was like a high bench in

8:25

a stall in science class. I can't remember

8:27

if it was a person who sat me near me in science

8:29

or whether I was just really turned on

8:31

by chemistry, But

8:33

I remember always you didn't post the next you had

8:35

chemistry. Mhmm. We had chemistry. Mhmm. I

8:37

had to carry my books in front

8:39

of my Yeah. Erexion.

8:42

Yeah. That was that was scary times.

8:45

Alright. We'll let up about erections. anything

8:48

else to catch up, but I've been I am going to

8:50

be a French chef. Oh, yes. You've

8:52

been cooking from the Julia child's.

8:54

Cool. Well, not cook not not yet.

8:56

ordered the cookbook -- Uh-huh. --

8:58

the master in the art of French cooking.

9:00

Mhmm. I just downloaded the two two

9:02

recipes I've made off the Internet. which

9:04

I think made easy because I think someone's already done

9:06

the hard work of going through the recipe

9:08

because apparently that, like, she explodes

9:11

everything in quite a lot of detail and sometimes it's quite

9:13

confusing. So I think someone has just gone through and is giving

9:15

you the click notes to what you need to know, which is which is

9:17

really handy. Have you watched any of

9:19

her actual Julia child? Billing

9:21

yes. I have. I started,

9:23

well, as we'll talk about the other day, the only reason

9:25

I know who she is is because of Snapchat

9:27

game because milk did her antisense six

9:29

of impulse drag race Snapchat. More than one

9:31

person. I can't remember who else did them. Did I but

9:34

I don't think either of them were very

9:36

good. No. No. I didn't know that one. Sorry.

9:38

Milk. Yeah. Sorry for that. So it's the

9:40

only reason I knew who she like her name, I knew who she was.

9:42

I didn't know anything about it. And then on I've been

9:44

watching cooking shows on YouTube, and

9:46

some YouTube channel popped up, some

9:48

guy, and he's because he's

9:50

he's YouTube channel is

9:52

anti chef, but he's

9:54

got a series called Jamie and Julia,

9:56

which is inspired by the movie

9:59

Julie and Julia. Yeah. Yeah?

10:01

So rather than like Julie and Julia, like Julie was

10:03

blogging about it. He's vlogging about

10:05

it, and he's going through and teaching himself

10:07

to cook by doing Julia Child's

10:09

recipes through the cookbooks. Anyways, I really

10:11

enjoyed them. He's like, he was just like a very

10:13

relatable. He not not a great cook. He was teaching himself. He

10:15

made mistakes. He knows, like, things

10:17

succeeded. Things failed. You know, I was just I've enjoyed it.

10:20

And then a couple of her

10:22

actual episodes popped up. I tried to

10:24

watch one. and I

10:26

didn't really like it. So I stopped.

10:28

But then I watched the series,

10:30

Giulio. Yeah. On Definitely.

10:32

In New or some of them.

10:35

Yeah. And I and I'll if

10:37

any of them wanna pay us, any of those

10:39

streaming services will remember. We'll get

10:41

much a seaway. Yeah. We'll remember

10:43

plugging the streaming. Right. Notes on our hands.

10:45

Yeah. And I'm and and

10:48

so I watched that and I was really cute. And then

10:50

the film popped up Julia and Julia.

10:52

So I watched that and I really enjoyed that. And

10:54

then I went back and after because I so

10:56

so sort of about how the show was

10:58

made especially the series So I went

11:00

back and I started watching the series again. And

11:02

I really enjoyed it actually. It is weird

11:04

to see food in black and white. Food is

11:06

humble advertising in black and white. That's

11:08

interesting. I love one of my takeaways from

11:10

that show, the series was how

11:12

they invented the, like,

11:15

overhead camera shot so that they could --

11:17

Yeah. -- film the food while over

11:19

cooking. I think that was really interesting. Yep. And I mean,

11:21

it's just interesting to see

11:23

early days of television -- Yeah. --

11:25

and how things were So career

11:27

in film had been around for so long, but television

11:29

hadn't it. It was so frowned upon. Mhmm.

11:31

So so common. So so common. So so

11:33

common. And she started on, like, community

11:35

access television -- Yeah. -- paid hoe for the

11:37

series herself -- Yeah. -- lied to her husband.

11:39

So I so I I made 2II

11:42

made French onion soup, which

11:44

was in credible. So

11:47

good, like, honestly, like, I like

11:48

French dining experience. Like, if it's on the

11:51

menu at a restaurant, I'll always order it.

11:53

It was better than I'd ever had

11:55

before. It was it was great. And then

11:57

it made a super cheesy flavor. Oh.

12:00

I'll I'll tweak it. I was missing two ingredients,

12:02

not me and paprika.

12:04

Right. Which I think would have added something to

12:06

it. Well, I feel like knowing French cuisine

12:09

basically everything contains, if

12:12

not, meat, liquid meat. Yes.

12:14

But the cheese souffle There's

12:16

also a garlic soup that I saw. Oh, lovely.

12:18

Mhmm. I'm a soup player vegetarian, isn't

12:20

it? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So

12:22

I order the book. Steady

12:24

dolls from gimmicks. Must

12:26

mean it's like it's it's one million three

12:28

print other. Yeah. Yeah. It's not not a

12:30

first edition. I doubt I don't know if it's a

12:32

hard back. But but

12:34

I figured I'm going to because I'm trying to

12:36

teach myself to cook better, like, to be a better

12:39

cook for myself because I'm I I enough

12:41

about cooking to feed myself and enjoy

12:43

it, but I need I want to

12:45

have more

12:46

skills. And so

12:48

I'm each week. Each each weekend of I'm gonna make

12:50

a recipe from the from the cookbook. That's

12:52

fun. And I'm gonna invite friends over.

12:54

Oh, that nice week. fun. Yeah. So I can

12:56

see no you know, they can visit me in my loneliness,

12:58

you know. Well,

13:01

that's a good that's a good way to avoid

13:03

loneliness. It is. cooking for friends.

13:05

Yes. Absolutely. Food brings people

13:07

together. Yeah. Well speaking of milk

13:10

and speaking of the Snatch game.

13:13

Trading the tuck played

13:15

the

13:15

iconic Leslie Jordan on the snatch game

13:17

who was tragically died, which is a week. Just

13:19

learned. Was it just a week up today?

13:21

Today. here in a car accident

13:23

in Hollywood, age sixty

13:25

seven. Very

13:26

sad. It's so sad.

13:28

Especially like from, like,

13:29

a there was some sort of medical

13:32

emergency and and a car

13:34

accident and, like,

13:36

sixty seven. Yes.

13:37

Like, tragic.

13:40

Actually, tragic. Really tragic. Yeah. I

13:42

mean, Leslie Jordan's been having such a resurgence

13:44

over COVID. Yeah. I know. COVID. all

13:46

of his camp videos. Yeah.

13:49

What y'all doing? You know, shit. What

13:51

y'all doing? and

13:53

just such a lovely, lovely man. Yeah. I mean,

13:55

we loved him since

13:57

we'll we'll engrave. Thank you. I

13:59

kinda imagined him playing anyone but bethly

14:01

Leslie or himself acting.

14:03

But apparently, he did play

14:05

other roles. Yeah. But I've only seen him

14:07

as Bethly Leslie I think I've told

14:09

my Leslie Jordan story on the pod

14:11

before. Yes. But I'll tell it

14:13

again in memorandum. I

14:15

was I was going well,

14:18

it was a it was a very small

14:20

plane. Going to Provincetown one

14:22

summer in

14:24

Massachusetts, and you it's like,

14:26

you get you're in Boston and then you

14:28

get into this, like, four seater

14:30

or six seater airplane. and

14:32

Leslie Jordan and I are on the same flight because we're going

14:34

we're going to P town to do our shows. And

14:37

here's just this tiny

14:40

little sort

14:41

of wrinkled old, beautiful

14:43

man. And I just remember sitting there on

14:45

the plane, like chatting away to him, you know,

14:47

over the sound of the twin propellers.

14:49

Yeah. And

14:51

I just remember sitting

14:53

there, looking at him,

14:55

and thinking, you know what? I

14:57

would

14:57

be grateful to be

15:00

a

15:00

little old man like you.

15:02

Like he was just and I'm talking about,

15:04

like, the idea of aging. Like, he's obviously

15:07

iconic and wonderful and brilliant, but there

15:09

was something about just being with him and

15:11

just seeing his happiness and his

15:13

joy and, his

15:15

his his oldness.

15:17

Is that just so comfy and --

15:19

Yeah. -- and lovely. I

15:20

was like, oh, do you know what? Getting

15:23

old looks great. Like,

15:24

it was just inspiring to be

15:27

around him and, you

15:29

know, I mean,

15:29

he's only sixty seven. look back

15:32

then, he would have been much

15:33

younger, probably like sixty.

15:36

But, yeah, what a what

15:38

a icon and a and a and

15:40

a very visible sort of queer

15:42

person throughout the ages. Yeah.

15:44

Leslie Jordan said, as a teenager, he

15:46

was torn between the of his youth

15:48

and his sexuality. I so wanted to

15:50

be a good Christian. I really did. He told the

15:52

Guardian in two thousand and twenty one. I

15:54

wanted

15:54

to follow the teachings of Christ to the best of my

15:56

ability and I try but then the whole gay

15:58

thing starts happening. At

15:59

the age of seventeen, I turned my back on

16:02

religion. He resorted to humor as a

16:04

defense mechanism even today if I

16:06

meet somebody and I'm not comfortable or

16:08

not ready to open up. I'll just make them laugh, he

16:10

said, then I don't have to let them in. So I

16:12

was made fun of at school, but I always

16:14

had a retort. He

16:16

moved to Los Angeles in nineteen eighty two and

16:18

started doing commercials before finding work in film

16:20

and television, and in the early nineties, he

16:22

was involved with project Angel Food in LA and not for profit

16:24

organization delivering food to people with

16:26

HIV and AIDS. In a two

16:28

thousand and fourteen interview Jordan said that he

16:30

had a difficult time growing up Southern Baptist.

16:32

I was baptized fourteen times. Every

16:35

time the preacher would say come forward,

16:37

sinners, and I'd say, oh, I was in the woods with

16:39

that boy. I better go forward. I

16:42

haven't. So he was always out.

16:44

Yeah. I mean, I I mean, I I can't imagine

16:46

he he'd be able to be in No.

16:48

No. Oh, wow. Well, let's see

16:51

Jordan. Yeah. Paul, let's see Jordan. What

16:53

a what a wonderful

16:55

man and a wonderful character and

16:57

-- Yeah. Very sad. Should go on

16:59

YouTube and watch a compilation of

17:01

Beverly Leslie. Yes.

17:03

Should be.

17:06

Today,

17:06

this morning,

17:07

my

17:08

episode of Play School StoryTime has

17:11

aired on ABC Kids -- Oh. -- which is

17:13

available on iVIEW. I

17:15

through the book called the Spectacular suit,

17:17

which is all about the the

17:20

joys of dressing up and putting

17:21

on a cute outfit. And that was a really

17:23

cute story I did with Humpty. who

17:25

was wearing sequins for the occasion, which

17:28

I, you know, thought was very cute.

17:30

Oh. Did you

17:32

see the clock? No.

17:34

I didn't have the clock. Yeah. Yes.

17:36

I think it's a one o'clock. A one

17:38

o'clock? Yeah. No. We were on the little story

17:41

time set. Okay. Yeah. But I

17:43

did get to I think Jumai

17:45

Mary and Humpty were there. Oh,

17:47

cute. Oh, nice. Oh, nice.

17:49

Sweet. No. I've definitely you know, it's

17:51

the thing about it's so funny like with backlash

17:54

about stuff like that. Right? Like,

17:56

yeah, there's been some people

17:58

on Twitter swintering

18:00

away and making negative comment. But

18:02

I'm, like, to

18:03

totototototototototo to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to,

18:05

there's, like, one person. And I

18:07

feel like

18:08

in this day and age, I could spend

18:10

the whole podcast talking about

18:12

this one person's reaction.

18:15

But realistically, there's

18:17

only one person -- Yeah. -- making a

18:19

complaint -- Mhmm. -- I think quite often

18:22

people, you know,

18:23

whether it be queer people, getting

18:26

criticism for stuff. We're often zooming on

18:28

those criticisms because you can you can really create a

18:30

lot of content from reacting

18:33

to someone on Twitter.

18:35

What was I doing?

18:35

There was a time oh,

18:38

I had done it was when I did the ABC

18:40

talking

18:41

to kids about

18:43

gender. thing. Mhmm. And

18:46

everybody enjoyed that. The video

18:48

got lots of positive comments. And

18:51

then Shelton who was the former head of the Australian Christian

18:53

lobby started a petition about

18:55

me -- Mhmm. -- and, like, thirty

18:57

two people signed it or something. And

19:00

about a month later, I got a

19:02

call from the gay press saying,

19:04

oh, look at this. Like, do you wanna comment

19:06

on this? We're doing an article about it two

19:08

different gay presses. I was like, do you know

19:10

what? This was a month ago. There's

19:13

thirty two signatures on this

19:15

petition. Nobody cares. All you're going to

19:17

do is alerted

19:19

queer people about this hate that nobody

19:21

knows about, whether the trauma. And

19:23

I know that it's a clickbait story

19:25

and people will get outraged. And I said,

19:27

I would actually just ask you don't

19:30

publish any articles on this

19:32

-- Yeah. -- because it was it was a month ago, catch

19:34

up. Yeah. It was it's not

19:36

necessary. Like, you're just you're actually

19:39

creating the story here where there's no story.

19:41

Mhmm. And both of those queer

19:43

presses did not publish articles.

19:45

And I thought, oh, good. I felt like

19:47

I like, that was that

19:49

was the right

19:50

Yeah. Outcome with all of that. Yeah. Very

19:53

excited to be on play school story time. That

19:55

is very exciting. Yes. I

19:58

Yeah. I'm looking forward to to

20:00

seeing people's responses to that. Yeah. I

20:02

haven't done, obviously, play school, but I

20:04

have done member family story time. And

20:07

it's so sweet. Like, it made me actually

20:09

think for a moment, a

20:11

fraction of a second

20:12

made me feel differently about having

20:15

children. Oh. like, I

20:16

saw as the first time I'd seen a like

20:18

a group of queer families --

20:20

Mhmm. -- you know, same sex,

20:22

mothers, same same sex sex well,

20:24

you know, fathers, like, you know, like, with their kids and,

20:26

like, the completely, in

20:28

quote,

20:28

normal family environment

20:31

and families sort of, you know, you

20:34

know, families. And

20:36

and I was like, oh. Yeah.

20:38

This is actually a thing. You can actually

20:40

be queer and have children.

20:42

And, you know, And I thought

20:44

to myself, oh, maybe I do wanna give

20:47

my, you know, offer

20:49

my semen, my

20:52

seed to a lovely you

20:54

know, lesbian couple who might be looking for

20:56

a glamorous donut. And

21:01

then about ten minutes after leaving, I

21:03

came to my senses. I said, no. Thank

21:05

God. Alright. There's nothing

21:07

I am I have there is nothing

21:09

about me that wants to same repurchase. Top

21:11

that one moment. Same. Yeah. I have

21:13

no no desire to bring children to this world. So

21:15

much so that even when, like,

21:17

like, when a woman will

21:20

say in conversation whether it's,

21:22

like, privately or in a meeting

21:24

or something like, that when someone tells me that

21:26

pregnant, my initial responses go,

21:28

oh, no. I'm

21:30

so sorry. Like, I I to stop myself.

21:32

I had to train myself because I just

21:34

I do not associate the idea. No.

21:36

I'm pregnant with, like, a deliberate

21:39

happy choice between two loving people to bring

21:42

life into this world. To me, my

21:44

initial response to anybody telling me that

21:46

pregnant is like, ugh. ugh. I'm

21:48

so sorry. I'm like, friends

21:50

ever tell me about like wanting

21:52

to have a baby, especially like queer

21:54

families. Right? Obviously, if

21:56

you are

21:56

a queer family, you've made a very deliberate,

21:59

deliberate way to have a baby. So it's not

22:01

just that you happen to get pregnant. You had

22:03

to go through, you

22:05

know, surrogacy or IVF

22:07

or whatever. And

22:09

when have their friends like talking

22:11

about the idea of having a baby,

22:13

recently I was talking to some friends and I

22:15

then went into my thoughts.

22:17

about it. And they were like, oh god. You

22:19

know? So you should tell people you

22:21

should, like, next time your friends tell you that

22:23

they're having a baby, you should, like, maybe think

22:26

about. Did you tell them? Yeah. But I didn't

22:28

realize they said they were actually

22:30

already in the process -- Mhmm. -- and the We're

22:32

we're thinking about have stop telling

22:35

them? Do

22:35

you know what you're like? Well,

22:37

I thought that we were having a conversation about

22:39

the idea of having a baby

22:41

or not. So I was like,

22:43

giving -- Yeah. -- my opinion -- Not

22:46

realized. -- I know. Yeah. Why would

22:48

you do that? Would you

22:50

die? I mean,

22:50

I'm, like, Why would you wanna bring a

22:52

child into this world? It is it

22:55

is ending. Like, where where where

22:57

with the front

22:57

row seat at the end of civilization? No. I

23:00

know. I wouldn't wanna, like, give birth to a child in

23:02

a globally warming,

23:04

politically unstable. But the

23:06

problem is though, we don't have that

23:08

nurturing, you know, maternal,

23:10

like that that need, that that

23:12

biological need to reproduce, where

23:14

people do. Yeah.

23:15

Straight people do. They

23:17

like It's getting out of them. It's just what they that's

23:19

what they're here for. Another

23:22

reason, really, of some free

23:24

produce and further the species.

23:26

Yeah. So we didn't have that. We we're

23:28

we're we're completely oblivious to that.

23:30

So when we think of kids, we're thinking think,

23:32

oh god, I can better look after

23:34

myself. Yeah. I I had a hard time looking after

23:36

a dog. Yeah. There was a line in nine Exchangers,

23:38

which I

23:38

keep wanting to go back and watch to

23:40

get the line because as the

23:42

the Chris which Chris

23:44

was at That's

23:46

a nice and nine perfect exchange. It's the gay

23:49

chris. The gay chris? Nine

23:51

perfect. There's a gay one? Yeah. There's a gay

23:53

chris. You love all the chrisas. You love all

23:55

the chrisas. Oh, maybe it's Luke.

23:57

Oh, it's Luke Evans. Oh, Luke Evans. Sorry. Is

23:59

he a guy? He's a guy. He's a guy. He's a guy. He's a guy.

24:02

Luke Evans is in, like, the

24:04

sauna with the teenage

24:06

girl, and they're talking about,

24:08

like, having children. And Luke Evans has

24:10

something about, like, not

24:13

wanting to bring a child into this world

24:16

because his experience was so hard that

24:18

he would never want to inflict that on another.

24:20

Mhmm. And I think and when I heard that, I

24:22

just like was like I'm

24:24

like, oh, yeah. No.

24:26

We we barely made it by the skin of

24:28

our teeth. and I'm, you know, I I

24:30

just

24:30

think of all those forks in the road where

24:32

it was, like, if you'd gone that way,

24:34

it would have been a

24:35

very different year now. So you could you you know what sort

24:37

of kid you would again? because

24:38

I know you could do the best parenting in

24:41

the world and still get an asshole.

24:43

I'd say Still get a

24:45

hit lock. I say, Let's not risk it.

24:47

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. For

24:50

the yellow pick road. For the yellow

24:52

pick road. How far the yellow

24:59

Following the Arabic road to

25:01

the queer celebration

25:02

festival that is Halloween.

25:05

Halloween. All Halloween.

25:07

Is is it is it

25:09

Quay Festival. Well,

25:10

it's not a queer festival originally, but I

25:12

think queer people have co opted it, not just because we like

25:14

to dress like sluts. not

25:17

that we need an opportunity to do that. We do that

25:19

at every possible turn. But I think that

25:22

Halloween, you know, in the the

25:24

beginning of the last century or in the twenties

25:26

and thirties and forties was an opportunity in a

25:28

time when cross dressing and

25:30

sort of variants of presentation

25:33

was illegal. You had to wear three

25:35

items of the clothing of your own

25:37

gender -- Mhmm. -- in no. You couldn't

25:39

yeah. Do you you couldn't wear more than three items of the

25:41

opposite gender of the opposite gender. Otherwise, it was

25:43

a crime. Mhmm. Halloween was a time

25:45

where, like, dressing up as other

25:47

genders and cross dressing was was sort

25:49

of acceptable. acceptable? Was it legally

25:51

acceptable? Well, the police tended to

25:53

look the other way. Sure. Halloween.

25:56

On Halloween. Did you have to, like,

25:58

dress is a scary

25:59

cross dresser. Like, did it have to be a bit of

26:02

blood on it? No. I don't think so.

26:04

Well, did you have to you you addresses a

26:06

girl as long as he wore a Freddie Kuga

26:08

flag. Yeah. I was like, you know. Well,

26:10

I saw that in in

26:12

nine eighteen twelve on the first of November, Pittsburgh

26:15

paper reported that girls were seen

26:17

dressing as tomboy's, and

26:19

several people were arrested for cross

26:21

dressing. The law stated that wearing three or more

26:22

articles of clothing from another gender is illegal,

26:24

and the popularity of gender bending

26:26

costumes

26:26

increased significantly over the next two

26:29

years. And

26:31

as the police were overwhelmed in nineteen fourteen, they announced

26:33

that it was there were no longer arrest people

26:35

for cross dressing. Oh. On

26:38

Halloween. So it was a time

26:40

when, like, New Years and Halloween were times where,

26:42

like, queer people get together and have, like, mass

26:44

parade balls and dress up, and I've read

26:46

some wonderful stories in making gay

26:48

history, which is a great book and a

26:50

great podcast about

26:52

you know, the the lesbians

26:55

dressing up in masculine drag and

26:57

the men dressing up in feminine drag and

26:59

the more going sort of to these parties

27:01

together as couples and it was get the the men and the

27:03

women sort of swapping gender roles for the

27:05

night and -- Mhmm. -- having sort of

27:07

like big big fun Halloween parties

27:10

Was this before or

27:13

after they started putting razor blades in

27:15

candy? Don't know. Don't know when

27:17

that

27:17

tradition began. Is

27:20

that a thing? Is it a thing? Is it, like, an a myth?

27:22

Just an urban myth. It's not the girl from the

27:24

school the next school who who sat

27:26

in the test tube, but she got inside her.

27:29

Although at boys town and they put the piece of lead

27:31

pipe in the barbed wire and they're like, oh,

27:33

yeah. I don't know. Mhmm. I don't

27:35

know. Mhmm.

27:38

Look, Anna, are you are you finished about

27:40

your -- Yeah. -- queer stuff? Yeah. I

27:42

don't I don't have anything to add about the queer stuff.

27:44

I do like my mom. I like

27:46

Halloween. I think maybe since Living in America, I

27:48

think Living in America must have helped for you. Yeah. Yeah.

27:50

It's there. It's obviously a huge thing. Yeah.

27:52

West Hollywood, there's a huge street carnival. There's

27:54

always like lots of parties. There's like a

27:56

party called would happen in the Hollywood forever cemetery.

27:59

Mhmm. It's kind of

27:59

like fun to,

28:01

like, go to a party in a cemetery. It's

28:03

not like a grave grave. It's like there's a

28:05

section where there's no graves and things,

28:07

but you still enter past all these, like, big

28:09

mausoleums and things like that. Yeah.

28:11

People are all dressed up. The answer to you

28:13

was great. No. No. No. Did had

28:15

sex on a tombstone once. Oh, that was that was an accident. So

28:17

I didn't realize it was a tombstone. It's an

28:19

ivory queen. No. Oh,

28:22

good because the veil is very thinner Halloween. You'd even even know what's gonna

28:24

come through. What's the Halloween contemporary? You

28:26

come in. What are the other things? The

28:29

Celtic and their

28:32

aerials that they believed

28:34

on, what you just said, to

28:36

bail? Yes. between two worlds. The sales

28:38

between two worlds was very very fidgety and

28:40

the fittest. The fairies could get

28:42

through. Do I like Halloween,

28:44

I wish I had more of

28:46

a connection to Halloween. I mean, I went

28:48

trick or treating once when I was, like,

28:50

eleven. And we we put sheets over a

28:52

similar witch's mask, and someone

28:54

had a Freddie Kukov and, like, it's

28:56

and I went trick or

28:57

treating and knocking on people's doors, and they literally slammed

29:00

the door in our

29:02

faces. All gave us like, like,

29:04

twenty cent pieces or apples or because I'm they're

29:06

not prepared. No. I didn't know what it was. But

29:08

I would I I

29:10

do get envious when I see

29:12

the festivities in America like the the

29:15

huddle blue that Americans make. And I think it'd be

29:17

very camped to grow up with that and have that

29:19

tradition, but I don't have

29:20

any connection to it's like, I

29:21

queen and, you know, every day is Halloween for me.

29:24

Mhmm. And, you know, dressing

29:26

up for a living in

29:28

my experience, working

29:30

as a you know, a drag queen on Oxnard

29:32

Street. Halloween night was just really

29:34

hideous because all the girls would

29:36

come out and that that, you know, and and have

29:38

a a cheap synthetic like,

29:40

cheapest, cheap we gone. And

29:42

I love

29:42

this children just the way I saw it,

29:44

but, like, they almost saw it

29:47

as equals. because we're both dressed

29:49

up. And I'm

29:49

like, and not that that that's really cool,

29:51

you know, spacey brum. But like, there

29:53

was this this this entitled

29:56

drunk girls in, you know, in this

29:58

yellow wing come dressed

29:59

as, I

30:00

don't know, a

30:03

slutty Cinderella. I don't know. Like,

30:05

you know, Alice in Wonderland. I don't know.

30:08

Anyway,

30:08

do

30:10

I like Halloween?

30:12

I'm I'm

30:15

oblivion. Like, I I might I

30:18

think I I think maybe, like, my

30:20

my

30:20

sister in the eighties would

30:23

I don't know where she got the idea because it wasn't

30:25

a big That

30:25

was what she was dressing you up. Yeah. She would dress me

30:27

up for Halloween each year. And,

30:30

like, quite elaborate

30:31

costumes. So it was like a bumblebee,

30:34

tweedled dum or tweedled dum or tweedled dum, who

30:36

knows to this day? Crum adult

30:38

Dundee. And I've got Adal

30:40

Dundee was the first, but, like,

30:42

it was quite an elaborate costume. There was, like,

30:44

a knife and an alligator a crocodile

30:46

and an alligator. And,

30:49

yes, you would dress me up each Halloween and

30:51

we would go trick or treating around the neighborhood.

30:54

And I

30:54

don't know whether other people but

30:56

those people who always had candy. And so I don't know whether

30:58

she created

30:59

the little experience for

31:01

you. Yeah. Well, she also would

31:04

go door knocking for like the

31:06

red cross or lifeline and there'd

31:08

be like a calico bag and we'd go

31:11

around the neighborhood from door to door. So she

31:13

sort of established a

31:15

relationship with everybody on housing ticket.

31:17

Yeah. So maybe she, like, worded

31:19

them up going alright. Halloween

31:21

on Tuesday night. Yeah.

31:23

need his mommy as a candy. Yep. Yes. For Shane.

31:25

He'll be dressed as a

31:27

bumblebee. Can't be seen. He's

31:29

very excited. Yeah. So I just

31:31

I think I have a I think

31:33

that would

31:33

have definitely been

31:34

my earliest form of like dressing

31:36

up because I was, like,

31:40

four or three or five. I don't know. Very

31:42

-- Yeah. -- very young. And so I

31:44

remember my sister, yeah,

31:46

introduced an idea of dressing up

31:48

and what fun it was. And then obviously fame

31:50

dressing up became a theme as well. But so I guess

31:52

I have like that childhood memory of

31:54

Halloween. Yeah. But very isolated

31:56

to our block in

31:58

Brighton -- Yeah. -- Brisbane.

31:59

Yeah. No one else was celebrating Halloween.

32:03

Yeah. We are we are going to a

32:05

Halloween Halloween party. We are

32:07

Halloween. Halloween. Halloween.

32:09

Halloween. We're doing a show. I am doing

32:11

it actually swift. Yes. Creative directing.

32:13

Can you tell us a little tidbit

32:15

about what we might see? We're

32:17

side of

32:17

rehearsals yet. Oh, we're not. We're not. We're not. We're not

32:19

a side of rehearsal.

32:20

What?

32:22

Sorry, Russell. What are you doing?

32:25

We're we're we're basically glorified putting

32:27

fences. Oh. Yeah. I thought it was

32:29

like a during a shot. That feels production. number?

32:31

During a production number. So we've got like a pretty good

32:33

gig actually. Are you lip syncing to a

32:36

song? Yes. What is

32:38

it? To a live singer.

32:40

Oh, wait. We're

32:40

sort of just we're we are literally just props,

32:42

like stage props. But glamorous is it was

32:44

one? Is it like the time you did the show with the librarian at

32:47

Mardi Gras? Well,

32:50

yes, but no. Not

32:53

yet. Yes. And the fact that

32:55

no. It

32:57

Oh, we'll

32:58

leave it there. No. No. It's gonna

33:01

be fine. It's it's it's gonna be easy. We're, like, literally, we're

33:03

we're sitting on on big podiums and we just

33:05

mime while she's singing and

33:07

of fabulous who's I think you I

33:09

don't know if I'm not I'm not at all. It's secret.

33:11

Secret. But we're making costumes. I'm

33:13

making two famous hairdresses for Ashley I and Ashley's

33:15

making gyms. I'm gonna make and this is an exciting part

33:18

about Halloween. It is an excuse to

33:20

dress up in a different genre

33:22

than what I'm used to do. You know?

33:24

And, like, you know, present the speaking Halloween going in

33:26

something spooky. It's not spooky. It's more

33:28

like part on. Now it's it's more

33:30

like we've we've got a makeup reference from

33:32

Ishi Hungry. Mhmm.

33:35

And we got a costume reference from Bjorg.

33:37

Mhmm. And I've taken a

33:39

bunch of references from

33:42

Google for the hair.

33:44

and we're sort of mashing them together. So it's like

33:46

it it's kind of like and it's in red

33:48

and black and and silver, you know, actually loves

33:51

those colors. The Spider Show? Or is it

33:53

the Nightstar Belle Show? Or is it there

33:55

are those shows, but no. We're not how

33:57

are you on any of those shows? Not about those shows. But how many shows

33:59

are there? I know it's

33:59

like Mardi Gras. The party only

34:02

goes. So eleven or one or two.

34:04

And got Mick and Violet are performing?

34:06

Yeah. So are are you just going? Are you? Yeah.

34:08

Oh. I'm just gonna

34:10

go. Oh. Are you gonna dress up like

34:12

a slot Yeah. I mean, that's that's the point.

34:14

I don't know what though yet. That's the problem.

34:16

You know what gets me okay here. Okay. You know

34:18

what gets me but Halloween? Yes.

34:20

But it's I bet it

34:22

it's a personal attack coming. Should I go in the

34:24

lines? No. No. No. No. No. No. Okay.

34:26

It's about it's about the gays. Yep.

34:29

like okay Like, okay.

34:30

think of a cat let's think of Thore.

34:32

A guy

34:32

thinks it's completely appropriate to wear a pair of red speedos, a

34:35

harness and a hammer, and

34:37

he's Thore. Yeah?

34:40

say the

34:40

state don't want to be storm. Yeah. Spray some white

34:42

hair, spraying the hair. Yep. Some contacts --

34:45

suit. -- white contacts, harness, and

34:47

white contacts storm. Yep. I need more than

34:49

that for it to be a costume. I'm

34:51

sorry? Call me call me old fashioned. You're

34:53

old

34:53

fashioned. No.

34:56

Because I think there's lots of people who put a lot of effort in, and then there

34:58

are, you know, less Yes. But it's

35:00

better than just a pair of jeans

35:04

and tank top tucked into the back of your jeans.

35:06

Yeah. But it's, you know Well, let's say

35:08

normalize. On Saturday night, what the costumes

35:10

are. Let's see. Let's let's tag

35:13

a tally. Yeah. a little we got a

35:15

little phones out, one little secret -- -- secret phone pick up. Yeah. Click that Kathy

35:18

Pavlitch to rate the moment. No. We'll

35:20

get we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll we'll

35:22

relay our worst.

35:24

Oh, that's the worst. Halloween.

35:26

Should we do a concert?

35:28

Slideshow. A slideshow on

35:32

the podcast. I don't know what to go at because I did have when I was up

35:34

my storage in LA, there was the costume

35:36

that I wore to life ball

35:38

the year that I had

35:40

sex

35:40

with that famous person. Yeah. When

35:42

I was like like a wood

35:45

nymph with like my breast glued

35:47

and glittered and whatnot. And I saw it. And I

35:50

think Marco was like, I thought it'd be a good Halloween

35:52

costume as a boy, and I was like, oh, wood. Like, a

35:54

fabulous like golden

35:56

nymph and gold just and

35:58

then would you have a

35:59

with a flute

36:02

with little elephant ears

36:04

and but the problem is, the

36:06

it's not gonna be here. Okay. So in my mind, I was

36:09

like, oh, the perfect Halloween costumes is

36:11

gonna be great. but

36:13

it's not gonna be shipped yet. Why don't you guys

36:16

storm? I I can wear a pair of white

36:18

Speedos, a white partners,

36:20

put some white pass, right, and some

36:22

white contact. Oh, it's Dorothy. It's

36:24

just Gingham Speedo's and red sneakers.

36:26

Dorothy. See, I think that's

36:28

cute, though. like, King and

36:30

Speedo's and, like, crystal

36:32

sneakers, but actually Oh, no. That wouldn't crystal

36:34

though. And a little a little other a basket

36:36

with a dog in it. That would be cute. That would be cute. because but that's what I

36:38

mean though. Yeah. No. I mean, like but you got another

36:40

thing about Halloween that I don't like is

36:42

that because it's always like

36:44

It's a very disposable holiday. I'm rushing out to get King, I'm staying there.

36:47

I've got those big

36:49

red platform shoes. They're

36:51

not sparkly, but they could

36:54

work. Anyway, keep

36:55

going. Sorry. Yeah. I

36:57

find

36:57

that Halloween because it's like it's always

37:00

very low quality when, like, with the

37:02

costuming and the decorations. To me, it

37:04

seems like a very disposable

37:06

holiday. And people don't all out decorating their house, and

37:08

it just feels like just a lot of a lot

37:10

of rubbish. I mean, although any holidays Yeah. But

37:12

I know. But, like, when you think about Christmas, things people

37:14

do a bit more quality and and it's more traditional.

37:16

So, like, people collect things and they

37:18

they they they stall them for the next year. I don't know that people do stall Halloween stuff for the next

37:20

year, but I think I think in Australia, people don't

37:23

stall stuff. No. Like, there's buy

37:25

it and decorate the housing crap and then throw it all out. Have

37:28

a pineapple carving ceremony

37:31

of Australian version.

37:34

some some some Jacqueline, some being. I did

37:36

see something like of it. That's actually quite a

37:38

campaign. Isn't it? The Australian version, like,

37:41

a Jacqueline pineapple sitting on your doorstep with a

37:43

tea light candle in it. But

37:45

the Jacquelineans, that's a specific

37:48

pumpkin that they don't eat,

37:50

isn't it? is

37:50

it actual food? You can make could you use that pumpkin as food?

37:52

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Some reason I just thought

37:54

that it's like they had genetically modified some specific

37:57

pumpkin they can carbon that

37:59

no one needs feet. And they're like the pump so,

38:01

like, in LA at Halloween, like, at the,

38:04

you know, beginning of October and in

38:06

September, you have, like, the pumpkin patch, which is

38:08

almost, like,

38:10

it's the same place that you go to buy Christmas through. Yeah. But it's just

38:12

pump full pumpkins,

38:13

orange pumpkins of different sizes. And even

38:15

at, like, trader those out

38:17

the front, like like beautiful

38:20

pumpkins, like like, pumpkin

38:22

looking big orange pumpkins. I think that

38:24

could be fake. Yeah. So so really

38:26

could be fake. And they sell like pumpkin carving

38:28

kits. Going to a pumpkin carving

38:30

party at Leon Lewis' house

38:33

once Oh, yes. Which I Which

38:35

sheep can Cupping putty.

38:38

Yeah. She it was funny because when I interviewed

38:40

her on my Christmas special -- Come with this. -- I

38:42

was like, into your house before and she was what?

38:44

Mark, Mark, I took

38:46

me to a pumpkin pop

38:50

pumpkin carving party at your house. And she

38:52

was like, oh, it was she was just a

38:54

bit like weeded out for a moment thinking you're

38:56

just like loitering around the house.

39:00

fingering through her things. Yeah. But it's an actual thing, like,

39:02

at the beginning of October, you have a

39:04

pumpkin carving party, and there's, like, little tools, like,

39:06

a little -- Yeah. -- little hacks saw that you carve

39:08

into your pumpkin. Do they scrape

39:10

the flesh out and use that? You

39:13

they hold that. Do most people just

39:15

throw it out? I think most people just throw it out. Seems very wasteful. You can use it to make your pumpkin pie.

39:18

Mhmm. Most people just

39:20

use tind. pumpkin.

39:22

What does that make sense? Why? because it just carved fresh pumpkins. People

39:24

are starving in the world. Yes.

39:30

Yes, ma'am. but

39:32

I

39:33

think we should start the tradition of pineapple. pineapple

39:35

carving parties. Yeah. pineapple

39:37

carving parties. pineapple

39:40

carving parties. But

39:42

use

39:42

your pineapple juice, your pineapple

39:44

flesh. Yeah. Well, make a nice sweet and

39:46

sour or something like that. Oh, boy. You can pop

39:48

it on a pizza. Yeah. have a

39:50

nice ham and pineapple pizza. Mhmm. After you've done your pumpkin pie pie

39:52

pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie

39:54

pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie

39:56

pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie pie

39:58

pie pie pie pie

39:59

pie pie That should that should be a new tongue twisteries or

40:02

warm up at the Sydney theatre company.

40:04

Missus Puggies Waghi had a rough cut

40:06

punt, not a cuff, cut

40:08

square cut something, but a

40:10

Pinnacle carving party. Pinnacle

40:12

carving party. Pinnacle carving party.

40:15

Yeah. Oh, wait. what

40:18

we could do for, like, next week. Can we do

40:20

a Camp Class Week? Yeah.

40:22

Can we? What

40:23

is it? Yeah.

40:24

I don't know. I don't

40:26

know what is

40:27

it? But do

40:28

you wanna do it? Yeah? Yeah? You know what

40:30

I was thinking about doing? Well, that becomes

40:32

her. that's a good one.

40:34

because, you know, we we it's nice to

40:36

get the old ones and witness them, but we

40:38

know what they're like, their shit. And so

40:40

they're different types of movies. in

40:43

films. Let's kind of becomes her as

40:45

a fabulous cat classic. My dad took me

40:47

to see, Death Becomes her at the

40:49

tumbled Butch Caroline coiled when it came out at

40:51

the cinema. Oh, wow. Yeah. How

40:54

glamorous. And

40:54

I think I feel I feel like one week,

40:56

like, he

40:56

took me to see death becomes

40:59

her one week, and then the

41:01

next week, you you'd see the wolf, the Jack Nicholson. Oh. And I

41:03

they were, like, as

41:06

opposite ends of

41:08

the spectrum. you

41:10

could get. I don't know if he knew he was taking me to see a cap classic when he

41:12

took me to see death of a council, but it

41:14

definitely is a cap. It definitely is a cap

41:16

classic. I've got I've got a good one. That's

41:19

fine. I can't wait to watch that. Yeah. I was gonna

41:21

be

41:21

ease. You push me down the

41:24

stairs.

41:25

Ernest. this.

41:28

Oh, I can't wait to watch it.

41:30

Do you have

41:32

a favorite Halloween look that you've

41:34

done over the years. Can you recount

41:35

some of your favorite Halloween looks? I

41:37

haven't really I went as morticia Adams once

41:39

in London. Sky was nice. I made a fabulous

41:41

outfit and I and I that was not

41:43

as a smoker. And I used one of those,

41:46

like, secret holders -- Mhmm. -- or they're

41:48

disgusting. Oh, I think. But I don't I don't

41:50

recommend them. because

41:51

Hold it. Have you ever have you

41:53

ever smelled bong water? Yeah. Yeah.

41:55

The inside smells like like a like

41:57

that that the grossness of the

41:59

instant in whole Yeah. Don't do that. I did win his

42:02

Barbie last year. did. Barbie last year. I really like that. Look.

42:04

That was Barbie. Was it only a Barbie year? And this

42:06

year, I was under just

42:08

superstar, Barbie. because I re I was originally gonna work at

42:10

Pufthof. Just just for

42:12

funsies, you know. One spot at twelve

42:14

o'clock. Get dressed up and wear anything I

42:16

want. Get

42:18

pieced. What arm is your show at Halloween? Don't

42:20

you know? because somebody thinks she's at, like, one.

42:22

We can still get a puffed off and Yeah. Yeah. Nick said

42:24

something to get a puffed off. Yeah. I've done.

42:28

But III would say that as an official Halloween

42:30

look totally hair value, which is all

42:32

on YouTube if you like to see it. The whole

42:35

thing. The creation in process of everything. Yeah.

42:37

My favorite Halloween costume ever is when I went.

42:40

It was it was there was the zipper

42:42

face. Remember

42:42

when people were doing that? Yeah.

42:45

and it was, like, right at the beginning when it was still

42:47

cool, but I was, like, I need to put a twist

42:49

on it. And so Simon Sherry Wood and

42:51

I went to Halloween

42:54

with, like, a zipper face and I had like zipper boobs and a

42:56

zipper genitals. Mhmm. And

42:58

it was a I

43:00

firmly believe

43:01

leave a brilliant and wonderful Halloween costume. It

43:03

was gory. It was drag. It

43:05

was fabulous. But I can't post pictures of it

43:07

on Instagram because every time I do, they

43:09

get deleted because of it's around

43:11

content. Mhmm. And I'm like, well, there's nothing actually

43:12

no one's naked.

43:14

There's no genitals. But I just

43:17

think the algorithm Yeah. Doesn't

43:20

understand that it's it's all special effects.

43:22

Mhmm. That was really well done

43:24

as well. And he did a very good job. Yeah. And didn't did

43:26

Simon have he's like, he had his face and his and

43:28

his bits -- Yeah. -- his face and his pain.

43:30

Oh, yeah. And I remember,

43:32

like, working out the outfit, I was like, I've got

43:34

a plan. This is gonna be great. And

43:36

then I think on the day, I was like, oh, we're going

43:39

to the to a cemetery. It's really gonna be

43:41

quite cold to wander around completely

43:43

stark bollocks naked. and

43:46

so we went and got some coats to Mhmm. And

43:48

then, I think I've told this on

43:50

the pod before too, when I went No.

43:53

Well, we went we went to

43:55

this party Halloween, which was lots and lots of fun. And then David Furnish invited us to

43:57

his I think it was his birthday party

43:59

at somewhere in in

44:02

West

44:02

Hollywood.

44:04

And what we didn't realize was

44:06

is that David's party was not a Halloween

44:08

party. So Simon and I

44:10

have like bleeding boobs and crutches

44:14

and faces. Mhmm. And we rock up to this, like,

44:16

people are, like, in suits and, like,

44:18

love, like, like, we have black tie.

44:21

and we're both naked wandering around.

44:24

But it's Halloween night. They understand that. Right.

44:26

In Halloween night, it's at the week before.

44:28

So It was still they still understood. Yeah. Sure. Do you have to tell everyone,

44:30

oh, excuse me, we went to Halloween Potter

44:33

beforehand? I think they

44:36

pisses ago. So we just felt very a lot. Oh.

44:38

Yeah. A place. Yeah. But I've lots of

44:40

fun Halloween looks over these

44:41

actually. I wanna slutty Jesus a few

44:43

years ago. Oh, yeah. was

44:45

good. The giant cross on my ear. That's one that there

44:47

was a photo of that that Lyle Shelton

44:49

used in his petition to talk about how

44:51

I was -- Yeah. -- the devil. because his photo

44:53

of me and Sharon needles, I'm slutty Jesus with a big

44:56

cross and Sharon needles dressed as the devil,

44:58

but they cherry picked too

45:00

post about me being a bad influence on

45:02

children. That's perfect. That's just perfect. Good

45:04

on. Yep. I really

45:06

drilled it into the room,

45:08

didn't you? imagine them, like

45:10

like, steam blowing out of their wings. He's,

45:12

like, oh, boy. Like like, the machine's

45:14

breaking down. Her cute

45:16

little loin cloth and sang heavy cross by

45:19

Mhmm. Whatever that band was. Oh. I've got

45:21

a little cooler. Yeah.

45:24

William Alaska and I did nine to five

45:26

Dolly Jane and

45:28

Lilly look -- Yeah. -- yeah. Yeah.

45:30

That was fun. That was fun. Yeah.

45:32

See, that's America. It's America. Yeah. People got

45:34

up, you know, I just you know,

45:37

And the thing is they don't have to be gory. No.

45:39

So I'm trying to think it's it's

45:41

it's Tuesday right now. Oh, good idea. It's

45:43

Thursday if you're listening, but it's Tuesday now live.

45:45

So I've

45:45

got, like, I've still got time to

45:48

come up with a good Halloween

45:49

outfit. You could just film

45:52

Speedo's.

45:52

Why don't

45:56

you just wear a

45:57

blonde wig and a cute

45:59

little

45:59

dress. I'm waiting for the

46:02

twist and like I was a

46:04

pretty

46:04

girl. I do that

46:06

all the time. Still

46:08

dress up every day's Halloween for

46:10

us, you know. Oh my god.

46:12

I could I'll have a think. Okay. Yeah. Have a think. Let us know

46:15

as well, like, sliding to our DMs. Oh, I

46:17

have a I have AA0

46:21

no. I see through morticia outfit in a long black

46:24

week. Well,

46:24

I did wanna go as Elvira, Elvira,

46:28

I was going to the Sydney theatre company Halloween party on the Friday

46:30

night, but then I realized that I have a gig in Melbourne that day, so I

46:32

can't go. But I was gonna go as

46:36

Alvira because my character

46:38

in Black Spirit was Elvira. Mhmm.

46:40

And people kept mispronouncing her.

46:42

And so I thought like I

46:44

could get like big black, but you don't have any

46:46

black b hives and that quickly fell apart.

46:49

Yeah. Also, Elvira is like very

46:51

specific. Are you gonna yeah.

46:53

like. You gotta do a bar. You gotta do it properly.

46:55

I was going to. Oh. Okay?

46:57

But did you

46:58

get boobs or boobs? I was gonna

47:00

ask about a bar yours. Oh, that'd be huge

47:02

on you. Not those big ones. Oh

47:04

my god. We're both like oh my god. We're

47:08

them. We can go like a slap. Like like like like, oh, it's

47:10

this. Scott's a slap. We're like, we're like, like, really? We go

47:12

to the cop destroyer. Go to the cop destroyer.

47:14

Yeah. You

47:16

could. No. Very hot. But,

47:18

like, you oh, someone's gonna wear them. I'm never gonna

47:20

wear them. I couldn't I've I

47:23

just couldn't imagine, like, all my in

47:25

the So cost for perfect. Oh, okay. Anyway anyway,

47:27

we'll keep Cheetos. Cheetos. Cheetos is at the top

47:29

of the list. Right? Well,

47:32

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47:34

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47:43

you listen to our podcast. Oh,

47:47

wait. Watch your show. This sentiment. Oh, yeah. Oh, well. Yeah. Watch

47:49

me standing on a stage.

47:51

Yep. Yeah. Be fun. What

47:53

could you my expectations? Because I was expecting

47:56

a full, like, vanity and

47:58

nationally starring

48:00

production show. no. It's not. It's not. Which is perfect

48:02

because I get on stage, I

48:04

get paid, and I ain't gotta do

48:06

anything. And

48:08

lemmers. Look lemurs. Like, I do a fabulous look and, you know, I'm just staying the look

48:10

all night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

48:12

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