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this is the last one. Give
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me the
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freaking arrow. This is Brock and
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saw keyword and Mark Matt
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Marcus. Sorry about just like my on
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the Alaska Airlines studio. Not
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exactly Joe Cap there in the pocket
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presented by simply Seattle. Now here
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are your hosts Brock keyword and
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Mike Saul. So please
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provide your speed and I don't know what's
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happened to Jordan today. It's
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nothing good. So we're just going to move with blaming his
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outfit like you do sometimes.
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I don't yeah, it must be the that's it got
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to be what he's mad. Obviously it's under armor screwed him
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with a bad outfit. There's Rory. I don't know man. I'm
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you know what don't worry about it. Jordan's out. The
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Masters are canceled. Just back it in and
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go home. There's no need to keep this
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charade up that we feel like the
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Masters Jordan's out and so that's really all the
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matters. All right. So as I said five for all
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right good good for Rory striking D. Shimp. Oh
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looks so freaking good yesterday. That was fun. Max
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Homa was playing really well with the Tiger groups.
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That's kind of cool. So Jason Day's pants. They're
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so ugly. They're big and baggy and hideous and
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I coming back. I hope not poor Jason day.
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Like no one screwed this up more than Jay
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Day. I'm sorry you distracted me into talking about
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this now. Like I could talk Masters and like
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golf fashion for a while when Jason Day first
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came on the scene when he was a great
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golfer. He was wearing the Adidas stuff. He
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looked good. He was all in black all
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the time. It like the tight black t-shirts.
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He looked great or type black polos. He
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was awesome. He looked like the coolest dude
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on tour. He was winning. He dominated that
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PGA Championship like Jay Day was the best
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and then he switched to Nike and it
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like all went to hell for him and
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he started having you know he fell down
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at Chambers and he was constantly injured and
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his back and his wife and his kids
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were sick. It's just like every day there
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was some problem with Jason Day. All those
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things happen. This guy's life fall apart. He switched to
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Nike and his life fell apart. What
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are you going to wear to our race? Well, he was
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like number one in the world And then by the end
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of like switching to Nike, he was like 185th Game
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fell off like no. Well, just for him
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for other guys. They look great in Nike
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But for him it just was never a
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good fit. He needed to go back to
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like the Adidas TaylorMade thing and Now
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he's with this other weird new brand and I don't
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even I can't really describe what he looks like I
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can't believe I can't believe he put him on or
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like yeah, I'll wear these out How
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much you pay me Where it
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is I'll put these off. They're like parachute pants They're
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they're in the wrong decade. That's for sure
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and he's off by like 20 30
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years. Maybe he's bringing it back I don't
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know again. I'm sorry. Thank you because you've distracted me
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for a couple of minutes I have important things to
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talk about Mariners get back to it tonight I
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you know kind of threw this into need to know but I
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am fascinated to see how they play from
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here because You've now
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gotten your first homestand out of the way You've gotten your
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first road trip out of the way you did not
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play particularly well on either of them In fact,
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as I've said a few times they really played
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bad But they
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didn't lose that many games despite how
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bad they played they managed to win
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enough here and there To
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kind of keep themselves alive, right? It wasn't
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that, you know, they didn't start off What
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did I say? The Rangers are four and
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ten like they didn't start off for and
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the Astros rather a four and ten They
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can still battle back from that too, but the
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Mariners aren't four and ten, right? They
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managed to kind of keep themselves alive
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winning a game here come back win
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their extra inning win here. And so
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You've kind of managed to
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survive This god-awful
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start where you've played terrible baseball
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Enough so that if you can get your guys
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turned around and just you know playing to
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the back of their baseball card You
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haven't like blown the season in the
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first two weeks You've
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not taken advantage of an opportunity certainly
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to get passed and
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put some distance between you and Texas
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and Houston, you've
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not successfully taken
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advantage of what was in front of you, but
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you haven't like buried yourself yet,
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which is great news. And everybody's still healthy? Yup.
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The difference is you've got to play the right
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way. And for
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everybody who gets mad every time they hear the words,
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it's early, it's early, it's early.
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Yeah. Okay. If
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they play like this for 162, they're going to stink.
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They're going to stink. If they play like
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this, I mean, honestly, how have they played? They've
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played like a 65 win baseball team. If
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they play like that for 162 games, they're
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going to be in and around the A's and
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White Sox for the worst team in the league.
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They're going to be terrible. I
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don't know how, thinks they're going to play as badly as
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they have in the first two weeks. So
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in theory, they should play better
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than that. They should end up with a better
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winning percentage and they should carry them forward. But
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it's not easy. And the
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Cubs are a good team. They come in playing pretty well.
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The Reds are a good team. Lots
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of young talent. The Reds are
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sort of you, but built with hitting instead
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of pitching, if that makes sense. A lot
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of speed, right? Lots of team speed. They're
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young. They run around. They got
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fun dudes. Daily Crews obviously leading them. Daily
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Crews is so fun. I can't remember how many bags they've
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already stolen, but it's absurd. You know what's funny though? Daily
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Crews is one of those guys who seems
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to be incredibly fun, especially when you only
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watch the highlights because the highlights are ridiculous.
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Most of us aren't watching Reds games every day.
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I wonder if when you actually watch the Reds every
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day, because every time I tune in, he makes an
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error. It doesn't mean he makes a thousand
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errors, but every time I watch him, he's got a wild
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throw because he's such a kid and he's
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what, six foot eight or whatever, playing shortstop.
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He's like a giraffe out there. And
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so I do wonder if it's one of
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those things where his excitement level
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... in
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the short space is different from
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how it is in kind of a larger
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one in the way he helps the team,
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but he's incredibly fun. Spencer
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Steer is fun, Encarnacion Strand
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is fun. Like they got
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some dudes. They got some really interesting kind of fun
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dudes on that team. So both those are going to
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come in here and that's not going to be easy.
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So you got to rise to the occasion. And
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there are some guys on this team that if they don't pick
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it up, you're not going to be good. Julio
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is one. Castillo is two.
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Polanco is three. Garver
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is four. If you
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want to point to four guys that
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they need significantly more from than they've
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got, those would be my four. I
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mean, Julio is your superstar. He's been
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not one of your best hitters to start. He's
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been in your bottom few. You
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need Julio to be Julio. Do I think it'll happen? Yes.
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Castillo is the ace of your staff. You
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need him to pitch at the very least like
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a good pitcher and he's not done that. In
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three starts, he doesn't have a quality start.
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That goes back then to September where he
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struggled a little bit there. You need Luis
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Castillo to be Luis Castillo or this
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team's not going to be what it's supposed to be. Flat,
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flat out, plain and simple. You need Luis
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Castillo. So those two guys are going to be
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front and center. And then you've got
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your two new additions. Like
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everybody else, they've got to find a way
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to adjust and adapt to being in this
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ballpark and playing for this team and understanding
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what all of that means and getting through
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the struggles that everybody seems to have as
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soon as they get here. But
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they went out and got Jorge Polanco and
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Mitch Garver because those guys are contributors. And
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it's not like a Garver's case, not like it's been
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years since he's been good. That guy was like one
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of the best hitters in the playoffs last year. So
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do I think he'll have a moment where it kind of the
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switch flips? Yes, I think so.
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I think he will. Right? Where
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he kind of just flips that switch and becomes the
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player that he's always been. I think that'll happen. I
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got a magic eight ball and I can just tell you
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what's gonna happen next. That's the weird
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thing about baseball. G's gonna ask me all these questions, is
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JP gonna be good the rest of the year? How the
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hell do I know? I
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think he's going to eventually be better than he's been
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because he's never been this bad before. And
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so history tells me he'll progress
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to the mean. I mean
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that's what players do generally in
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baseball unless they're toast. I
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don't think JP's toast. He's not an age to be.
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So history tells me he will progress
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to the mean. You think Julio's toast?
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I don't think Julio's toast. So he will
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probably progress to the mean. So
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in theory there's a lot of good things ahead
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of this team and thankfully they haven't cost themselves
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dearly yet. But Tom
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runs out quick. It goes from
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early to late in a hurry. And so
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I love the sense of urgency that they have in
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that last game in Toronto. I hope that's a message
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to the team and I hope it carries over to
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tonight into the rest of this homestand because they need
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to start winning some games at some point. They need
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to start showing they are the team they were built
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to be on paper. Really quick. How
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many bags have the Mariners stolen so far? I
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know Dylan Moore's got one. Just
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guess. Two. Four. Yeah,
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you got to sue back. Knowing that, how many do you think
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the Reds have? Twelve. Twenty-three.
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Alright, we got to go. We'll take a quick break.
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It's broken. See how it's worked on 7-10. Need
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to know. Fifteen minutes past every game. Need
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to know. Fifteen minutes past
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every hour with Brock and Salk.
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Here's what you need to know.
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Up first. Alright, it
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is time for the Mariners to get
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themselves going. It's been obviously a very
9:38
slow start to the year. But
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after the day off yesterday to come home,
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collect themselves, they get back to it tonight.
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A couple more National League clubs coming in.
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Cubbies than Reds. Look, it's way
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too early to watch the scoreboard but, you know,
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it's kind of fun sometimes. At least to offer
9:53
some perspective because while the Mariners have not played
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well, there were only two games out of first
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place. Texas shut out last night by Oakland. The
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Astros have had an awful start to the year. They're
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four and 10, and they got some injury concerns that
10:04
are starting to mount as well. So, you know, you
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still have all kinds of opportunity in front of you
10:08
with 149 games left to play. Bryce
10:12
Miller will take the hill tonight or take the
10:14
mountain tonight against Jordan Wicks, and
10:16
that game will be on Apple TV. So if you're
10:18
looking for the game and you're accustomed to finding it
10:21
on route, it'll be on Apple TV. And of course,
10:23
you can always listen to it right here on Seattle
10:25
Sports. We'll talk to Shannon Dreher in 45 minutes. We
10:27
can get a injury update
10:29
from her. I would like to
10:31
know what's going on with Brian Wu, because yesterday
10:33
we did hear about a couple of the relievers.
10:36
Uh, Matt Bradshaw, a live VP in that one.
10:38
So... That one's very well. So,
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uh, we keep our fingers crossed. He's progressing
10:42
there, and then, uh, has picked
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up, uh, he's in a trolling program now,
10:47
working his way towards getting out of the mountain.
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But he's a little bit farther behind me, so... I
10:52
don't want to get too much detail, no
10:55
timelines, nothing like that, but... It's
10:57
very mild. Yeah, so it sounds like Matt
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Brash can be a little bit closer than
11:02
Gregory Santos, but, you know, at some point
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we should be seeing both of these two
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guys who were major weapons for them. Now,
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all of that said, there are years where there
11:11
are guys who were injured, you're like, oh, they
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can just get so-and-so back, it should solve the
11:15
problems they've been having. This does not have that
11:17
feel to me. They have not
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struggled to shut teams down in the seventh
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and eighth, which is sort of where you're
11:23
expecting Brash and Santos to really make a
11:25
difference. Not that they've been perfect in
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those innings, but that's not been the reason
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they've struggled. That's not gonna fix the defense,
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that's not going to fix the offensive problem,
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but it should add a whole lot more
11:36
strikeouts, which are never a bad thing. Great
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interview, as always, with Jon Schneider yesterday, on
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with Wyman and Bob, and of all the
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things that jump out, I'm gonna play you
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his sound here. He's talking about Spencer Rattler
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and Bonyx coming in for visits, but what
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he says at the very end about Sam
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Howell, I actually thought is the most interesting
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thing he's... said yesterday. Yeah, no, we don't
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study quarterbacks just because we only drafted two.
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I get it. No, yeah, we
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want to get to know these guys a little bit better
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and spend time with them. And Spencer's a real impressive guy
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and so is Bo. And we wanted to be able to
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spend a little bit more time on those guys, have the
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coaches be able to spend more time with them on the
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board. And yeah, you want to be cautious of their time
12:18
as well. They're out here on West Coast visits. So try
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to set those up when they're visiting the Rams, the Chargers,
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the Niners, and try to fit those
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in. And we love Sam. We love what we did
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being able to acquire Sam. And we talked about the
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age. He's got the experience, but that doesn't preclude
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us from what we do in the draft. You
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hear that last part? It doesn't preclude us
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from what we do in the draft. And
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maybe that means a third or fourth round
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pick. But if he's saying it
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doesn't preclude you, it doesn't preclude you. What if there
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is a quarterback that they want at number 16? What
12:47
if Penix is still there? What if
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JJ McCarthy slips? That's not gonna happen. What
12:52
if they do truly love Bo Nicks, which
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would surprise me? But we'll see.
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Like I do think that I guess everything
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is open. I would be surprised if they
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took a quarterback, especially in the
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first round of this draft. But just after
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listening to John, I guess anything is
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possible. Yeah,
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the Shohei Otani gambling case is changing
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rapidly. We're getting a lot more information.
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If you remember when we first found
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out, kind of said, Look, one of
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a few things is going on here.
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Either Shohei is gambling or this guy
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stole the money from him. And I
13:28
could see how both would have been
13:30
true. Both were sort of things where
13:33
you could write a script that made
13:35
sense. Well, now we're finding out that
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E pay is actually being charged by
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the federal in bed by
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the federal attorneys here for
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$16 million in wire theft.
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Our investigation has revealed that
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due to the position of
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trust he occupied with Mr.
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Otani, Mr. Mitsuhara had unique
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access to Mr. Otani's finances.
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Mr. Mitsuhara used an abuse
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abused that position of trust in
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order to take advantage of Mr. Otani.
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Mr. Mitsuhara used and abused that position
14:07
of trust in order to plunder Mr.
14:09
Otani's bank account to the tune of
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over $16 million. It's
14:14
a pretty compelling case, certainly, that the U.S.
14:16
Attorney has put together. And as
14:18
you read through the 37-page document or
14:20
whatever it is in the filing, it
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looks really, bad for
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Mitsuhara. Allegedly, he telephoned the bank
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and falsely identified himself as
14:30
Otani to trick bank employees
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into authorizing wire transfers. Apparently,
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it got to the point that the
14:37
illegal bookmaker was threatening to approach Shohei
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on the street outside his home to
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ask for money because he was under
14:44
the impression that Shohei had bankrolled the
14:46
whole thing and guaranteed him. Otani denied
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all of the other folks access to
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this one account. So
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that would be kind of explaining why
14:55
his agents and other
14:57
folks didn't have any access to it.
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So it certainly is a
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very compelling case right now against
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his interpreter, former interpreter, Ipe.
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Let's see, Bryson DeChambeau continuing to
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lead the Masters. He is 7-under,
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Scottie Scheffler 6-under, and then you
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got Huygarden Homa at 5-under, and
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then a few other guys after
15:17
that. So that's your Masters update.
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No, I'm not going to give
15:21
you Jordan's speech update. He's out.
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He's don't worry about it. It's all fine. We
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moved on. We passed that.
15:28
Nobody needs to know where Jordan is at. No,
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no. That's everything you need to know. We
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do a quarter past every hour here on
15:35
the Bronx Insult Show. That's
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all you get. I'm sorry. That's all you get. I
15:39
don't know where Tiger's at today. I haven't seen where
15:42
Tiger is. I was sort of trying to check here on the
15:44
leaderboard. I don't know where Tiger is. Did he have an hour
15:46
ago? Oh, here's Tiger. Hold on.
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He is... one over.
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So he's lost two strokes today. It might be windy
15:54
again. I really haven't had a chance to watch this
15:57
morning, but it might be even more than Yesterday
16:00
was brutal watching some of these guys hit
16:02
seeing the ball just take off and totally
16:05
different directions It was obviously a pretty big
16:07
challenge for them. Okay More
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has got some quite more came up with a great idea.
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Let me just start there Maura came
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up with a great idea and
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what I love about it is that
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it preys upon our emotions our
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guts and much
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more so than our brains and our logic
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and It kind of turns
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us all into lizards. So we're gonna do that next
16:30
together. We're all gonna be lizards It's coming up next
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on Brock and socks the other sports on 710 Seattle
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sports calm You
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were listening to a brock and saw power
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through the Alaska Airlines It's
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broken talk sales for 710 salesports.com
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Love this idea from more we are
16:54
under two weeks to go here before
16:57
the NFL Draft Seahawks drafting at number 16 The
16:59
mocks are coming in fast and furious. It's like
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you get two or three It feels like every
17:04
day everybody's throwing out mocks and more mocks and
17:06
more mocks and some of them are familiar, right?
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I think Troy Fouton is probably the most common
17:10
name we've seen And there
17:12
are a few others that you get kind of over and
17:14
over again Then you get some outliers you get some that
17:17
include trade. So the mocks are kind of all over the
17:19
map So Maura in her infinite wisdom
17:21
and I love this said alright, it's one thing
17:23
to talk through What makes
17:25
the most sense use your logic? This
17:27
makes sense here. This is why they
17:29
would want this person These are the
17:31
traits etc. And then there's
17:34
your gut Then there's
17:36
your emotions then there's your
17:39
instant lizard brain reaction of how are
17:41
you gonna feel in? The
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moment when you hear some of these names
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So Maura you put together a list here
17:48
of I don't know five or six names
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that have been commonly mocked At least want
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to just like make up I
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wanted to pick guys that people think
17:56
actually could have a chance absolutely. So you looked at
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I don't we got six or seven and mocks
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here and you put
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some players to them and so
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we will give our reaction. How
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I will feel and I know you're
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going to give yours as well. How you will...
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Justin's going to set this up for us so
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that we can pretend it's draft day. How will
18:16
you feel if and when you hear this called
18:18
by the sale? So again put yourself in those
18:20
shoes. It's draft night, you're with your friends or
18:22
wherever you do it in your man cave, wherever
18:24
you watch your draft. What
18:27
your immediate lizard brain reaction would be. So I'll
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start okay? Ready? Okay. Yes.
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Okay with the 16th pick and the 2024 NFL Draft, the
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CLC Hawks select... Troy
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Foutano, I'm
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now imagining you at every social event when there's an emotional reaction, you're
19:22
just frantically searching for a song to play. Oh yeah, I
19:24
wanted to tell you how I feel about this. Going
19:27
through Spotify like yeah. I knew you two were up to
19:29
something when I got here this morning. You were like huddled
19:31
in a corner and I could tell you were talking about
19:33
songs. And I was like are you doing ranked? And
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you were like no. No. Just
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a little surprise for you Maura. All right. How
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will you feel if it's Troy Foutano? Well to be honest my...
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I think my very
19:46
first initial reaction would be like what? They
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took the guy that everyone mocks this thing?
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Like because that would be the first time
19:52
ever I think in... Right and
19:54
by everyone Mel Kiper, Bruce Feldman, Daniel Jermer. That
19:56
would be a shocker to me. But
19:59
yeah. I would be stoked because I think
20:01
that as much as offensive
20:04
line is not like the sexy pick in the
20:06
draft, that is something
20:08
that they need and everyone seems to think that
20:10
he's a beast and that you can move him
20:12
to guard. There's a couple of reasons
20:14
why I say the right stuff. One,
20:16
he can play guard which they absolutely
20:18
need. Two, he can play tackle which
20:20
gives you defense against Abe Lucas if
20:22
there's injury issues and defense overall
20:24
about Charles Cross either if he gets hurt
20:27
or if in a couple of years
20:29
here you run into a contract dispute,
20:31
whatever, you got this guy for
20:33
two years after that. I do think that
20:35
there are some real advantages to it and
20:37
then more than anything, he's just physical. I
20:39
want them to be more physical. If
20:42
he is the pick and they
20:44
are specifically adding to their physicality,
20:47
I would say that's the right stuff. Not only could
20:49
he play guard, I can't remember who it was that we talked
20:51
to, but someone said that it was impressive
20:53
to them that not only can he do
20:55
it, he has made a point to say I will do
20:57
that. Some guys are like, I
20:59
guess I'll do it if you make me. He's like, no, I'll do that,
21:01
whatever you need. He's already put it out there. I'll
21:05
do the dance even if they draft him. I'll
21:07
do my feet. We'll swing back and forth like
21:09
that. The right stuff. All right, there you go.
21:12
So that's Troy Faltano. With
21:14
the 16th pick, actually we have a trade.
21:16
Oh, a trade? We have a trade. Okay.
21:19
Seahawks have traded picks with the Cardinals.
21:22
I'm 16, they will now be picking at number 23. Okay.
21:25
So with
21:27
the 23rd
21:30
pick, Glambarton
21:33
center from Duke. Who
21:38
are you? I
21:42
don't know you. If
21:47
they take Duke center Glambarton with
21:49
the 23rd pick, my reaction will
21:51
be who? They did what?
21:54
You can thank Lance Serraline for this. Who? Lance
21:57
Serraline is the one that said Glambarton. Yeah,
22:00
I don't know who that is Center
22:02
so that's probably what they're gonna do. Let's probably
22:04
has this one nailed We've
22:06
not talked about Graham Barton. Have we? Yeah,
22:12
yeah, I'm not too sold on that
22:14
one I did look a little further into him
22:16
he's he played left tackle for three seasons Center
22:20
was what he did in 2020 because they had
22:22
injuries, but it's weird that that's what he's kind
22:24
of being considered as for the draft He's
22:28
six five three thirteen arms
22:30
on the shorter side 32 and 7 8 Yeah,
22:34
I just uh, I don't think
22:36
I'd be too excited about that one. I'm not gonna
22:38
lie, especially because would anybody I Saw
22:40
Mel Kiper call him a plug-and-play center. I mean
22:43
they are they just drafted Olu Olu at Timmy
22:45
last year Yeah, I mean, I don't mind them
22:47
necessarily drafting a center but in the first round
22:49
after playing tackle so he can move around but I
22:52
What haven't we talked before about guys being
22:54
kind of positional flexibility? Oh
23:03
All right, okay, that's Graham Barton, okay emotional
23:06
reaction of who Ready
23:08
to move on. Yeah, let's do that. Okay. Now this one back
23:10
at 16 with the Select
23:16
a Marius MIM tackle, Georgia
23:18
Hmm Oh,
23:25
no, oh no. Oh no. Oh no.
23:28
Oh no a blue kiss was done Is
23:33
not what you want it to be okay, that
23:35
would be a big oh no to Abe Lucas
23:38
now Maybe it means one of those guys are
23:40
gonna slide into guard. I don't think it's MIMs,
23:42
right? He's a giant of a human if I
23:44
have the right guy six eight three forty.
23:46
Yeah, I don't think Sliding anywhere.
23:49
I can't are eleven and a quarter.
23:51
Yeah, Dan. I mean, he's a huge
23:53
huge human being So it's not that
23:55
I necessarily don't like the pick the
23:58
physicality, etc. Unless you tell me I've
24:00
asked around, right? Can Abe Lucas
24:02
be a guard? And everyone's kind
24:04
of like, hmm, he can, but
24:06
that's not necessarily the goal. I
24:10
would treat that as an oh no about
24:12
Abe Lucas' knee. Maura? I
24:15
feel like yours are songs that I'm learning that mine
24:17
are more like sound effects in my initial reaction. Because
24:19
I was like, ooh. My last one was, ehh.
24:22
Like intrigued? Intrigued? Ooh,
24:24
or like? I think because he is such a
24:27
physical specimen, I would be excited.
24:30
And I would think that they were probably doing that
24:32
as insurance for Abe Lucas. So that's the part
24:34
that would be disappointing because having
24:37
already spent draft capital there so recently. I don't
24:39
want a first round pick to be insurance. You
24:41
don't have a lot of pick already. You
24:45
just signed George Fink to be insurance. It's not a guy that I would
24:47
be upset about them taking, but I would be upset about what you
24:50
said, what it implies. Yup, yup, yup. And he's
24:52
not moving inside the way Faltano is. So I
24:54
think that would be a little bit more concerning
24:57
than the Faltano. That was Danny Kelly of The
24:59
Ringer, by the way. Those who are
25:01
mad about that. Well, Danny, I'm going to give you the
25:03
big ode to most staff of the Nate Dog. What you
25:05
did in that mock, he said it's because he worries
25:07
about Abe Lucas. There you go. Very, very
25:09
concerning. By the way, underrated song. Most staff's
25:11
awesome. And that is a great, great song.
25:14
Anything with Nate Dogger. Yeah, obviously. Pretty solid.
25:16
And I think Farrah Monches on that song. Okay, we all, we have a
25:18
trade. Oh, we got a trade. We have a trade. Okay.
25:21
The Seahawks and the Steelers have taken a trade. The Seahawks will
25:23
now pick number 20 and number 84. The
25:27
Steelers will be picking at 16 and 151. So
25:29
with the number
25:32
20 pick, NFL
25:34
draft, the Seahawks select Jackson Powers,
25:36
Johnson, and the Patriots.
25:44
Okay. No
25:48
complaints. No
25:55
complaints. I wouldn't necessarily complain about it. I
25:57
mean, the guard center thing.
26:00
Again, I think it's a little early to do
26:02
that, as I said, with Graham Barton, but in
26:04
this case you're getting 84. So, it would sort
26:06
of, I don't know what you were getting in
26:08
the Cardinals trade, that wasn't
26:10
part of it, but I'd need to like 84
26:12
in order to like this. I'd
26:15
need to like what you got in the third round there
26:17
at number 84 in order to like
26:19
this, I would say. But I do think
26:21
that an extra third round pick would be
26:23
pretty valuable in this draft. So, you know,
26:25
maybe that turns into Tavandre's sweat. I don't
26:27
know. Maybe it turns into Zach
26:30
Zinter. So, like there's a lot of reasons
26:32
I could be convinced. I don't
26:34
know that I would like love this, but I don't know that
26:36
I could complain about it. So, I'm
26:38
just going to go with Offset and Drake. Craig in Spokane says,
26:40
yes, Yeah,
26:54
I know Brock likes him.
27:15
He did a draft profile on him, and I know he
27:17
likes him quite a bit. So, You'd
27:53
be making yourself better. We're
27:55
going with the Who. We got two Who songs in here and
27:57
then a bunch of rap songs. I would say If
28:00
they do that, like, yeah, that sounds good. You better do that. But
28:02
it better work out. You know what I
28:04
mean? Oh, yeah, if you're betting on it,
28:06
you better not like do that. It better
28:08
work. Like, if you're gonna go with Byron
28:10
Murphy, I'm not gonna complain about it, certainly.
28:12
But that better work. That better work out,
28:14
I would say. Okay, more? Yeah, I think
28:16
I would say, all right, Mike McDonald. Like,
28:19
that would make me think, like, he's getting
28:21
a say with
28:23
Schneider, for sure. And, you know, he talks about
28:25
wanting to build that, like, wall up
28:27
the middle. And I don't know. I
28:29
would think that he's getting a pretty clear
28:32
say in implementing his plan. And I would
28:34
hope that this defense would
28:37
look a lot different this year. And be,
28:41
like, immediately better if you're gonna spend that kind
28:43
of capital in the first round. But I wouldn't be mad at
28:45
it. Yeah, all right. Good. Okay,
28:47
out of the offensive line. Last one. Final one. Last one.
28:49
Okay, with the 16th pick in the 2024 NFL draft. Seattle,
28:52
Seattle. Michael
28:56
Panix, Jr. Quarterback University.
28:58
Same. I'm like,
29:01
heck yeah. And
29:08
that's the thing, we don't, like, we're
29:10
just into the song, Simon. Stop
29:14
talking over the music, Maura. I think that's the thing, we
29:16
don't know if this is best for them, because they probably
29:18
need more picks early on. But, like, that's the most fun,
29:20
right? Your reaction is L-F-G. Yeah.
29:24
Let's go. How could that
29:26
not be your reaction if they draft? And by
29:28
the way, I think that'll be my reaction with
29:31
a few quarterbacks. Like, if they take a quarterback,
29:33
I will say let's go. If they trade up,
29:35
if they do anything like that, they're not going
29:37
to. I don't think they're even gonna draft Panix.
29:40
But if they do... Let's go! Let's
29:43
go! Let's
29:46
go! Let's go!
29:49
Let's go! I mean, what could call
29:51
for Lil Jon more than that? What
29:56
an Aussie. There's a text saying I had to have
29:58
helped you find that Drake in Aussie. offset they don't
30:00
believe you know that song what are you talking about
30:02
what's the matter with you people why I'm really not
30:04
she did not you think Mora helped me find music
30:07
have you listened to this show ever before
30:09
you know I'm sick of being I do
30:13
suggest a lot of hip-hop songs for ranked yeah but
30:15
I mean come on I did not help him find
30:17
that big
30:31
off that guy I can walk
30:33
offset I mean it was
30:35
you sent me one a long time ago is it me
30:37
goes that you just loved it was a carpool karaoke yeah
30:39
I like me goes in general I think me goes pretty
30:41
good and I love the SNL bit that they did a
30:44
few years ago Oh shall me
30:47
no I don't think okay it's with
30:50
the bit basically as they come come
30:52
in to talk to their therapist it's
30:55
so funny man I do know what you're
30:57
talking about it's a really good bit it's
30:59
me goes talking to their therapist and and
31:01
sesley strong place of therapist got it Chris
31:03
reds in it he's very funny it's a
31:05
it's a good bit this Saturday should be
31:07
good to run Gosling and Chris tableton is
31:09
that true and then if one other person
31:11
tells me I would like Chris Stapleton I
31:13
like you just mad people are suggesting no but
31:16
just like I know I've heard it it's okay
31:18
like so I think you might
31:20
like this I know you don't like country but I think you'd like
31:22
Chris Stapleton like yeah I've heard it
31:24
yeah I don't hate it I don't know if
31:26
I'm like choosing to go like see it or
31:29
anything all right fun stuff thank you more if
31:31
you train for pedics no no no no we're
31:33
going with let's go let's do some blue 88
31:38
blue 88 rock
31:45
you or breaks down three football
31:47
questions as only he can now
31:49
here's your host rock here and
31:51
like saw oh with no Brock
31:53
today let's go with the old friend Bob
32:00
and don't adjoining us from the Seattle Times.
32:02
Hi, Bob. Good morning. Hey,
32:04
Mikey. Yeah. How are you
32:06
doing? You're a big Migos guy,
32:09
too, right? No. Sorry.
32:11
Wrong guy. Sorry. You're
32:14
more of a... We
32:16
bond over Rush and some other... Yeah. ...Migos
32:18
like that, probably more than Migos. All right, Bob,
32:21
you were out there this week. What
32:23
stood out from just sort of chatting with
32:25
the players the other day? What
32:27
was your big takeaway from them showing up
32:29
for voluntary workouts? You
32:33
know, I mean, everybody's saying it's so early, so
32:35
it's really hard to draw any conclusions about like
32:37
where things are headed or things like
32:39
that. But you know, it struck me that they're all just
32:41
kind of saying the right things. And
32:43
you know, for a couple of them, it's significant
32:45
change. You know, Tyler Lockett and Geno Smith and
32:49
Tyler Lockett, obviously, have been here the longest
32:51
and Geno Smith's tenure suddenly is among the
32:54
second or third longest I think on the team. And
32:57
you know, it's going to be really new for
32:59
them. And I think they make
33:02
that clear
33:04
that they
33:07
were surprised about the change from
33:09
Pete and that I think it is going to take them a
33:11
little bit of time to sort of... That it did take them
33:13
a little bit of time to sort of adjust to
33:16
the fact that Pete wasn't going to be there anymore.
33:18
And so that there are... You know, this is going
33:20
to be some significant change coming for them. And so,
33:22
you know, it's good they have all this time now
33:24
to kind of really start that process
33:26
since you don't play a game now
33:29
for six months. How did you take
33:31
the comments from Chana specifically who seemed
33:33
to say, hey, last year was kind
33:35
of messy and it feels like
33:38
a much more positive vibe in the building this
33:40
year. What did you get out of that? Well,
33:43
I mean, obviously it was. I mean, the season didn't
33:45
go the way, you know, especially some of the games
33:47
that they lost, you know, some
33:50
of those mid season games. You know, it's interesting from
33:52
set of standpoint, he only played six games and he
33:54
wasn't here for some of that, you know,
33:56
for some of the period when that was going
33:58
on. So I think maybe... be in his specific
34:00
case, some of that was also just his situation. I
34:03
think he peeked through a little bit that, you know,
34:05
that was the first time he'd been hurt and he
34:07
had to go through his own situation. So I
34:09
took a little bit of what he said as
34:13
from kind of his situation as well.
34:16
Um, you know, and so for him, I think
34:18
it's a much better situation. Obviously coming in that
34:20
he's kind of getting past this. I
34:22
was like, he's gonna be fine. Um,
34:24
I mean, my own take a little bit is
34:26
I think guys are also just struggling for what
34:29
to say because they don't, you know, it was
34:31
overly really new that they haven't, they hadn't done
34:33
through this with the Seahawks and it's only been
34:35
a couple days so far. So I think it's
34:37
really hard for the jock and he's excited. They're
34:39
they're trying to come up with something because they're
34:41
being asked and everybody wants to put a positive
34:43
spin on it right now. All right. Question number
34:45
two. So
34:49
they trade for Sam how a couple of weeks
34:52
ago and I was sort of under the impression
34:54
at that point that that probably took them out
34:56
of the running for a quarterback in the draft
34:58
and then Schneider yesterday with Wyman and Bob said
35:00
that it would not preclude them from drafting a
35:02
quarterback. Do you think that the Seahawks could still
35:05
take a quarterback in the draft in a couple
35:07
of weeks? Yeah, I definitely do.
35:09
You know, he said that to us when we talked to
35:11
him at the league meetings a couple of weeks ago as
35:13
well right after they made that trade. Um,
35:15
you know, he said the biggest thing it did was it meant
35:17
they don't have to, you know, if you got into the
35:20
draft with only Cheetos and you were gonna have to
35:22
quarterback somewhere because you're gonna probably
35:24
have to find a drafted rookie for agent probably
35:26
as well to add a third quarterback to the
35:28
roster. So I think one way or the other
35:30
that they're gonna add a quarterback here. But I
35:33
don't think if the food did at all, you
35:35
know, they didn't really invest that much. You know,
35:37
the trade they made for Sam how is and
35:39
you know, they started just moved out with a
35:42
couple of their picks. It
35:44
wasn't like they gave the picks away. And
35:46
then there's almost zero financial investment. Sam how
35:48
there's no guarantee buddy contracts about a million
35:51
salaries of about $1 million. So you could
35:53
easily spend another quarterback on the on to
35:55
the roster here. Um, so
35:58
I know I I I believe leave
36:00
them on that. I you know like maybe last
36:02
year there was a little bit of subject duties
36:04
going on because you know they probably kind of
36:06
took pictures with guys they knew they were gonna
36:09
have a chance to get all that but I
36:11
think right now everything
36:13
to do you know you got a new head coach I
36:15
think to throw out a lot of the past the
36:18
question that's out the window and I think if I
36:20
think if someone really fell at their lap at 16
36:23
you know I think they could take a shot at it and
36:25
then I also think they put it somewhere else in
36:27
the draft I think if there's a guy in the third or fourth
36:29
round that's there I think they could do
36:31
that as well I think this is sort of
36:33
a time when you know you're reset the roster
36:35
a little bit so I definitely think they're looking.
36:37
Let's say they did trade for a quarter to
36:39
select a quarterback with 16 do you think
36:42
they could look to then trade howl to one
36:45
of the other teams that was interested in him
36:47
later in the draft? Maybe
36:50
I think a couple of those teams have all
36:52
kind of gotten quarterbacks since then I mean I
36:54
think it's the Rams Vikings and Denver I think
36:56
were the teams that were among those my
37:03
understanding is who were the teams that were interested in
37:06
howl so maybe you'd circle back and see
37:08
if there's interest out there for but you
37:10
know it's also those teams might then also
37:12
take care of that in the draft itself
37:14
you know themselves as well I
37:17
think Denver definitely will I think everybody you
37:19
know I think the consensus right now is
37:21
Denver is probably gonna add a quarterback you know
37:23
with their first pick so if
37:26
they do that I doubt they'd be interested in doing that
37:28
so I don't know how great of a market there'd really
37:30
be for that I think you know and I think they
37:32
like Sam Howell a lot you know I think they
37:34
want to throw him into the competition and see but again
37:36
I just think I think this is the time in the
37:39
history of the franchise to go ahead and you
37:41
know kind of have a quarterback maybe to
37:44
get it you know sort of like where
37:46
they were in 2012 when they drafted Russell
37:48
up to big sign back with it you
37:50
know they then they yep that was about
37:52
the fourth quarterback in three years
37:55
that they'd added to the roster I think this is sort
37:57
of a time of the franchise that to be like that
37:59
again Question number three,
38:01
what's your
38:04
expectation moving forward for Abe Lucas?
38:07
Whether it's health wise, position wise, what do
38:09
you see in the cards for Abe? Yeah,
38:12
I know there's been speculation about moving it
38:15
inside. I haven't heard that at all. You
38:17
know, he's never played inside, so it would
38:19
be asking him to do something he doesn't
38:21
have any real game experience doing, but maybe
38:24
you could give that a shot I guess,
38:26
depending on what happens, but I haven't gotten
38:28
that vibe. That's something they're really considering. I
38:31
do just think they signed George Fant just
38:33
to sort of, you know, they don't want
38:35
to get stuck where they were last year.
38:37
When they suddenly had some injuries
38:39
there, they suddenly were,
38:41
you know, signing 41-year-old Jason Peters
38:43
off the street and having him have
38:46
to play. I think they're
38:48
just trying to avoid that with the fans'
38:50
side, because I think they feel like that
38:52
really did kind of, you know,
38:55
derail the offense a little bit
38:57
last year, where both those guys got hurt the
38:59
way they did. So I think they're just kind
39:01
of, you know, see what, you know, cover themselves
39:03
there. You know, they said
39:05
that this is gonna be ready for
39:07
the start of the season, that they hoped that the
39:09
surgery that he had after the year, and we didn't
39:11
get great details on exactly what that
39:15
fixed, but Josh Sider did
39:17
just tell us that, you know, he thought that
39:19
was gonna fix everything and get him healthy. It
39:23
just made him being ready for the start of
39:25
training camp. So, you know, I think we maybe
39:27
need to wait until then and see if he
39:29
is ready and then see where it goes from
39:32
there. But, you know, who
39:35
knows what they do in the draft, and so
39:37
maybe they do some of the draft that changes
39:39
my thought on that. But at the moment, I do
39:41
just think they want to, you know, they anticipate it
39:43
being the starting right tackle, and
39:45
they sign George Fann just to, you know,
39:47
to be that guy who can be that
39:49
swing back up that, you know, I think
39:51
they felt again like that really hurt them
39:54
last year when they didn't have an experience,
39:56
another experience tackle on their roster. Ably
40:00
done, Bob. That's Bob Condota from the Seattle
40:03
Times filling in for Brock today with some
40:05
blue 88 answer So just two weeks away
40:07
not even you have are you starting to
40:09
get a sense? Do you have a gut
40:11
feeling about what they do at 16? Not
40:16
really, huh? I think the
40:18
I think they you know It's
40:21
been interesting you see kind of more more of the mocks and
40:23
stuff like that and and While
40:25
I don't everybody makes fun of those I do always feel like
40:27
those you know Those are a little bit
40:29
of a reflection of what people of
40:31
the general center of what the draft is And it seems
40:33
like you see a little bit more Other
40:36
than the Caleb Williams pick a little bit more
40:38
uncertainty And what's going to happen at the top
40:40
of the draft that I think we've had in
40:42
some of these years And so I think just
40:44
the officer really do try to be light on
40:46
their feet Just see what happens and see who's
40:48
available there and be ready for something Unexpected
40:50
happening and be ready to to kind of pounce
40:52
on that so I don't know that they're they're
40:54
sitting there locking themselves It that we for sure
40:56
gonna do this you know do do a be
40:59
your scene no matter what I think they're gonna
41:01
wait and see a little bit of who's available
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and and you know try to have a lot
41:05
of scenarios in their minds there because I think
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I Think 16 is right at that spot where?
41:10
You know you have to be a little bit more prepared for that
41:13
You know where you know that there's some things
41:15
that might happen But you also know that there's
41:17
something really unexpected happens a couple picks ahead of
41:19
you that that's a really set off a domino
41:21
effect That maybe makes somebody available to you have
41:23
anticipated great stuff Bob appreciate it Thanks for spending
41:25
a few minutes with us you guys know to
41:28
follow Bob and to read them on the Seattle
41:30
Times Seattle Times comm thank you
41:32
sir. We'll talk soon Okay,
41:34
there's my there you go. There's there's Bob
41:36
Kindota beat reporter long time now beat reporter
41:38
covering the Seahawks for the Times And
41:41
some good stuff there for Blue 88 all
41:43
right well people seem to be back on the
41:45
quarterback bandwagon after everybody kind of jumping Off the
41:48
idea all of a sudden. We're all Flooding
41:50
back to the possibility maybe there's some smoke
41:52
streams See ox trying to convince other people to
41:54
trade in and around but maybe they'll take
41:56
a quarterback at 16th and to that I
41:58
will say let's go Stableton you
42:00
spread give me you know I you know I have and
42:02
then I've listened to him and I thought he was just
42:04
Okay, you just gave him a shot. Yeah, if I just
42:06
tried it. Yeah, then maybe I'd like it. I think it's
42:08
fine I don't not like it. Just give
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me a shot like if you know I'm not a big
42:12
music person No, I would say more than just okay. I
42:14
think his voice is pretty Not
42:16
even like the biggest fan, but from what I've heard I think his voice.
42:18
Yeah, he's got a very good voice Absolutely. Yeah,
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I know he's got a good voice Don't
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really like his music that much. I think it's
42:26
fine alright coming up Shannon Dreher is gonna join
42:28
us. We'll switch gears talk some baseball What are
42:30
the Mariners need to do now that they're home,
42:32
and what's the biggest concern that's next on brock
42:34
and sulk?
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