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Hour 2-Brock & Salk Show NFL Draft dress rehearsal, Bob Condotta (Seattle Times)

Hour 2-Brock & Salk Show NFL Draft dress rehearsal, Bob Condotta (Seattle Times)

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Hour 2-Brock & Salk Show NFL Draft dress rehearsal, Bob Condotta (Seattle Times)

Hour 2-Brock & Salk Show NFL Draft dress rehearsal, Bob Condotta (Seattle Times)

Hour 2-Brock & Salk Show NFL Draft dress rehearsal, Bob Condotta (Seattle Times)

Hour 2-Brock & Salk Show NFL Draft dress rehearsal, Bob Condotta (Seattle Times)

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this is the last one. Give

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me the

0:06

freaking arrow. This is Brock and

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saw keyword and Mark Matt

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Marcus. Sorry about just like my on

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Seattle sports powered through

0:16

the Alaska Airlines studio. Not

0:19

exactly Joe Cap there in the pocket

0:22

presented by simply Seattle. Now here

0:24

are your hosts Brock keyword and

0:26

Mike Saul. So please

0:28

provide your speed and I don't know what's

0:30

happened to Jordan today. It's

0:32

nothing good. So we're just going to move with blaming his

0:34

outfit like you do sometimes.

0:36

I don't yeah, it must be the that's it got

0:40

to be what he's mad. Obviously it's under armor screwed him

0:42

with a bad outfit. There's Rory. I don't know man. I'm

0:45

you know what don't worry about it. Jordan's out. The

0:47

Masters are canceled. Just back it in and

0:49

go home. There's no need to keep this

0:51

charade up that we feel like the

0:53

Masters Jordan's out and so that's really all the

0:55

matters. All right. So as I said five for all

0:59

right good good for Rory striking D. Shimp. Oh

1:01

looks so freaking good yesterday. That was fun. Max

1:03

Homa was playing really well with the Tiger groups.

1:05

That's kind of cool. So Jason Day's pants. They're

1:08

so ugly. They're big and baggy and hideous and

1:10

I coming back. I hope not poor Jason day.

1:12

Like no one screwed this up more than Jay

1:14

Day. I'm sorry you distracted me into talking about

1:16

this now. Like I could talk Masters and like

1:19

golf fashion for a while when Jason Day first

1:21

came on the scene when he was a great

1:23

golfer. He was wearing the Adidas stuff. He

1:26

looked good. He was all in black all

1:28

the time. It like the tight black t-shirts.

1:30

He looked great or type black polos. He

1:32

was awesome. He looked like the coolest dude

1:34

on tour. He was winning. He dominated that

1:36

PGA Championship like Jay Day was the best

1:39

and then he switched to Nike and it

1:41

like all went to hell for him and

1:43

he started having you know he fell down

1:45

at Chambers and he was constantly injured and

1:47

his back and his wife and his kids

1:49

were sick. It's just like every day there

1:51

was some problem with Jason Day. All those

1:55

things happen. This guy's life fall apart. He switched to

1:57

Nike and his life fell apart. What

2:00

are you going to wear to our race? Well, he was

2:02

like number one in the world And then by the end

2:04

of like switching to Nike, he was like 185th Game

2:08

fell off like no. Well, just for him

2:10

for other guys. They look great in Nike

2:12

But for him it just was never a

2:14

good fit. He needed to go back to

2:16

like the Adidas TaylorMade thing and Now

2:19

he's with this other weird new brand and I don't

2:21

even I can't really describe what he looks like I

2:24

can't believe I can't believe he put him on or

2:26

like yeah, I'll wear these out How

2:28

much you pay me Where it

2:30

is I'll put these off. They're like parachute pants They're

2:34

they're in the wrong decade. That's for sure

2:36

and he's off by like 20 30

2:38

years. Maybe he's bringing it back I don't

2:41

know again. I'm sorry. Thank you because you've distracted me

2:43

for a couple of minutes I have important things to

2:45

talk about Mariners get back to it tonight I

2:49

you know kind of threw this into need to know but I

2:52

am fascinated to see how they play from

2:54

here because You've now

2:56

gotten your first homestand out of the way You've gotten your

2:58

first road trip out of the way you did not

3:00

play particularly well on either of them In fact,

3:02

as I've said a few times they really played

3:04

bad But they

3:07

didn't lose that many games despite how

3:09

bad they played they managed to win

3:11

enough here and there To

3:13

kind of keep themselves alive, right? It wasn't

3:15

that, you know, they didn't start off What

3:17

did I say? The Rangers are four and

3:19

ten like they didn't start off for and

3:22

the Astros rather a four and ten They

3:24

can still battle back from that too, but the

3:27

Mariners aren't four and ten, right? They

3:29

managed to kind of keep themselves alive

3:31

winning a game here come back win

3:33

their extra inning win here. And so

3:36

You've kind of managed to

3:39

survive This god-awful

3:41

start where you've played terrible baseball

3:44

Enough so that if you can get your guys

3:46

turned around and just you know playing to

3:48

the back of their baseball card You

3:51

haven't like blown the season in the

3:53

first two weeks You've

3:56

not taken advantage of an opportunity certainly

3:58

to get passed and

4:01

put some distance between you and Texas

4:03

and Houston, you've

4:06

not successfully taken

4:08

advantage of what was in front of you, but

4:11

you haven't like buried yourself yet,

4:15

which is great news. And everybody's still healthy? Yup.

4:18

The difference is you've got to play the right

4:20

way. And for

4:22

everybody who gets mad every time they hear the words,

4:24

it's early, it's early, it's early.

4:26

Yeah. Okay. If

4:29

they play like this for 162, they're going to stink.

4:33

They're going to stink. If they play like

4:35

this, I mean, honestly, how have they played? They've

4:37

played like a 65 win baseball team. If

4:41

they play like that for 162 games, they're

4:43

going to be in and around the A's and

4:45

White Sox for the worst team in the league.

4:47

They're going to be terrible. I

4:50

don't know how, thinks they're going to play as badly as

4:52

they have in the first two weeks. So

4:55

in theory, they should play better

4:57

than that. They should end up with a better

4:59

winning percentage and they should carry them forward. But

5:01

it's not easy. And the

5:04

Cubs are a good team. They come in playing pretty well.

5:06

The Reds are a good team. Lots

5:08

of young talent. The Reds are

5:10

sort of you, but built with hitting instead

5:12

of pitching, if that makes sense. A lot

5:14

of speed, right? Lots of team speed. They're

5:17

young. They run around. They got

5:19

fun dudes. Daily Crews obviously leading them. Daily

5:22

Crews is so fun. I can't remember how many bags they've

5:24

already stolen, but it's absurd. You know what's funny though? Daily

5:27

Crews is one of those guys who seems

5:30

to be incredibly fun, especially when you only

5:32

watch the highlights because the highlights are ridiculous.

5:35

Most of us aren't watching Reds games every day.

5:38

I wonder if when you actually watch the Reds every

5:40

day, because every time I tune in, he makes an

5:42

error. It doesn't mean he makes a thousand

5:44

errors, but every time I watch him, he's got a wild

5:46

throw because he's such a kid and he's

5:48

what, six foot eight or whatever, playing shortstop.

5:50

He's like a giraffe out there. And

5:53

so I do wonder if it's one of

5:55

those things where his excitement level

5:57

... in

6:00

the short space is different from

6:02

how it is in kind of a larger

6:04

one in the way he helps the team,

6:06

but he's incredibly fun. Spencer

6:08

Steer is fun, Encarnacion Strand

6:10

is fun. Like they got

6:12

some dudes. They got some really interesting kind of fun

6:15

dudes on that team. So both those are going to

6:17

come in here and that's not going to be easy.

6:19

So you got to rise to the occasion. And

6:22

there are some guys on this team that if they don't pick

6:24

it up, you're not going to be good. Julio

6:26

is one. Castillo is two.

6:30

Polanco is three. Garver

6:32

is four. If you

6:34

want to point to four guys that

6:36

they need significantly more from than they've

6:39

got, those would be my four. I

6:42

mean, Julio is your superstar. He's been

6:44

not one of your best hitters to start. He's

6:46

been in your bottom few. You

6:49

need Julio to be Julio. Do I think it'll happen? Yes.

6:52

Castillo is the ace of your staff. You

6:55

need him to pitch at the very least like

6:57

a good pitcher and he's not done that. In

7:00

three starts, he doesn't have a quality start.

7:02

That goes back then to September where he

7:04

struggled a little bit there. You need Luis

7:06

Castillo to be Luis Castillo or this

7:08

team's not going to be what it's supposed to be. Flat,

7:12

flat out, plain and simple. You need Luis

7:14

Castillo. So those two guys are going to be

7:16

front and center. And then you've got

7:18

your two new additions. Like

7:20

everybody else, they've got to find a way

7:23

to adjust and adapt to being in this

7:25

ballpark and playing for this team and understanding

7:27

what all of that means and getting through

7:29

the struggles that everybody seems to have as

7:31

soon as they get here. But

7:34

they went out and got Jorge Polanco and

7:36

Mitch Garver because those guys are contributors. And

7:39

it's not like a Garver's case, not like it's been

7:41

years since he's been good. That guy was like one

7:43

of the best hitters in the playoffs last year. So

7:46

do I think he'll have a moment where it kind of the

7:49

switch flips? Yes, I think so.

7:52

I think he will. Right? Where

7:54

he kind of just flips that switch and becomes the

7:56

player that he's always been. I think that'll happen. I

8:00

got a magic eight ball and I can just tell you

8:02

what's gonna happen next. That's the weird

8:04

thing about baseball. G's gonna ask me all these questions, is

8:06

JP gonna be good the rest of the year? How the

8:08

hell do I know? I

8:10

think he's going to eventually be better than he's been

8:12

because he's never been this bad before. And

8:15

so history tells me he'll progress

8:18

to the mean. I mean

8:20

that's what players do generally in

8:22

baseball unless they're toast. I

8:25

don't think JP's toast. He's not an age to be.

8:28

So history tells me he will progress

8:30

to the mean. You think Julio's toast?

8:33

I don't think Julio's toast. So he will

8:35

probably progress to the mean. So

8:38

in theory there's a lot of good things ahead

8:40

of this team and thankfully they haven't cost themselves

8:42

dearly yet. But Tom

8:45

runs out quick. It goes from

8:47

early to late in a hurry. And so

8:49

I love the sense of urgency that they have in

8:51

that last game in Toronto. I hope that's a message

8:53

to the team and I hope it carries over to

8:55

tonight into the rest of this homestand because they need

8:58

to start winning some games at some point. They need

9:00

to start showing they are the team they were built

9:02

to be on paper. Really quick. How

9:04

many bags have the Mariners stolen so far? I

9:06

know Dylan Moore's got one. Just

9:09

guess. Two. Four. Yeah,

9:12

you got to sue back. Knowing that, how many do you think

9:14

the Reds have? Twelve. Twenty-three.

9:17

Alright, we got to go. We'll take a quick break.

9:20

It's broken. See how it's worked on 7-10. Need

9:22

to know. Fifteen minutes past every game. Need

9:24

to know. Fifteen minutes past

9:27

every hour with Brock and Salk.

9:29

Here's what you need to know.

9:32

Up first. Alright, it

9:34

is time for the Mariners to get

9:36

themselves going. It's been obviously a very

9:38

slow start to the year. But

9:41

after the day off yesterday to come home,

9:43

collect themselves, they get back to it tonight.

9:45

A couple more National League clubs coming in.

9:47

Cubbies than Reds. Look, it's way

9:49

too early to watch the scoreboard but, you know,

9:51

it's kind of fun sometimes. At least to offer

9:53

some perspective because while the Mariners have not played

9:56

well, there were only two games out of first

9:58

place. Texas shut out last night by Oakland. The

10:00

Astros have had an awful start to the year. They're

10:02

four and 10, and they got some injury concerns that

10:04

are starting to mount as well. So, you know, you

10:06

still have all kinds of opportunity in front of you

10:08

with 149 games left to play. Bryce

10:12

Miller will take the hill tonight or take the

10:14

mountain tonight against Jordan Wicks, and

10:16

that game will be on Apple TV. So if you're

10:18

looking for the game and you're accustomed to finding it

10:21

on route, it'll be on Apple TV. And of course,

10:23

you can always listen to it right here on Seattle

10:25

Sports. We'll talk to Shannon Dreher in 45 minutes. We

10:27

can get a injury update

10:29

from her. I would like to

10:31

know what's going on with Brian Wu, because yesterday

10:33

we did hear about a couple of the relievers.

10:36

Uh, Matt Bradshaw, a live VP in that one.

10:38

So... That one's very well. So,

10:40

uh, we keep our fingers crossed. He's progressing

10:42

there, and then, uh, has picked

10:45

up, uh, he's in a trolling program now,

10:47

working his way towards getting out of the mountain.

10:49

But he's a little bit farther behind me, so... I

10:52

don't want to get too much detail, no

10:55

timelines, nothing like that, but... It's

10:57

very mild. Yeah, so it sounds like Matt

11:00

Brash can be a little bit closer than

11:02

Gregory Santos, but, you know, at some point

11:04

we should be seeing both of these two

11:06

guys who were major weapons for them. Now,

11:09

all of that said, there are years where there

11:11

are guys who were injured, you're like, oh, they

11:13

can just get so-and-so back, it should solve the

11:15

problems they've been having. This does not have that

11:17

feel to me. They have not

11:19

struggled to shut teams down in the seventh

11:21

and eighth, which is sort of where you're

11:23

expecting Brash and Santos to really make a

11:25

difference. Not that they've been perfect in

11:27

those innings, but that's not been the reason

11:29

they've struggled. That's not gonna fix the defense,

11:31

that's not going to fix the offensive problem,

11:33

but it should add a whole lot more

11:36

strikeouts, which are never a bad thing. Great

11:43

interview, as always, with Jon Schneider yesterday, on

11:46

with Wyman and Bob, and of all the

11:48

things that jump out, I'm gonna play you

11:50

his sound here. He's talking about Spencer Rattler

11:52

and Bonyx coming in for visits, but what

11:54

he says at the very end about Sam

11:57

Howell, I actually thought is the most interesting

11:59

thing he's... said yesterday. Yeah, no, we don't

12:01

study quarterbacks just because we only drafted two.

12:03

I get it. No, yeah, we

12:05

want to get to know these guys a little bit better

12:07

and spend time with them. And Spencer's a real impressive guy

12:09

and so is Bo. And we wanted to be able to

12:12

spend a little bit more time on those guys, have the

12:14

coaches be able to spend more time with them on the

12:16

board. And yeah, you want to be cautious of their time

12:18

as well. They're out here on West Coast visits. So try

12:20

to set those up when they're visiting the Rams, the Chargers,

12:22

the Niners, and try to fit those

12:25

in. And we love Sam. We love what we did

12:27

being able to acquire Sam. And we talked about the

12:29

age. He's got the experience, but that doesn't preclude

12:31

us from what we do in the draft. You

12:34

hear that last part? It doesn't preclude us

12:36

from what we do in the draft. And

12:38

maybe that means a third or fourth round

12:40

pick. But if he's saying it

12:42

doesn't preclude you, it doesn't preclude you. What if there

12:44

is a quarterback that they want at number 16? What

12:47

if Penix is still there? What if

12:50

JJ McCarthy slips? That's not gonna happen. What

12:52

if they do truly love Bo Nicks, which

12:54

would surprise me? But we'll see.

12:56

Like I do think that I guess everything

12:58

is open. I would be surprised if they

13:00

took a quarterback, especially in the

13:02

first round of this draft. But just after

13:04

listening to John, I guess anything is

13:07

possible. Yeah,

13:12

the Shohei Otani gambling case is changing

13:14

rapidly. We're getting a lot more information.

13:16

If you remember when we first found

13:18

out, kind of said, Look, one of

13:21

a few things is going on here.

13:23

Either Shohei is gambling or this guy

13:26

stole the money from him. And I

13:28

could see how both would have been

13:30

true. Both were sort of things where

13:33

you could write a script that made

13:35

sense. Well, now we're finding out that

13:37

E pay is actually being charged by

13:40

the federal in bed by

13:42

the federal attorneys here for

13:44

$16 million in wire theft.

13:46

Our investigation has revealed that

13:48

due to the position of

13:51

trust he occupied with Mr.

13:53

Otani, Mr. Mitsuhara had unique

13:55

access to Mr. Otani's finances.

13:57

Mr. Mitsuhara used an abuse

14:00

abused that position of trust in

14:02

order to take advantage of Mr. Otani.

14:05

Mr. Mitsuhara used and abused that position

14:07

of trust in order to plunder Mr.

14:09

Otani's bank account to the tune of

14:11

over $16 million. It's

14:14

a pretty compelling case, certainly, that the U.S.

14:16

Attorney has put together. And as

14:18

you read through the 37-page document or

14:20

whatever it is in the filing, it

14:23

looks really, bad for

14:25

Mitsuhara. Allegedly, he telephoned the bank

14:28

and falsely identified himself as

14:30

Otani to trick bank employees

14:32

into authorizing wire transfers. Apparently,

14:35

it got to the point that the

14:37

illegal bookmaker was threatening to approach Shohei

14:40

on the street outside his home to

14:42

ask for money because he was under

14:44

the impression that Shohei had bankrolled the

14:46

whole thing and guaranteed him. Otani denied

14:48

all of the other folks access to

14:50

this one account. So

14:53

that would be kind of explaining why

14:55

his agents and other

14:57

folks didn't have any access to it.

14:59

So it certainly is a

15:01

very compelling case right now against

15:04

his interpreter, former interpreter, Ipe.

15:07

Let's see, Bryson DeChambeau continuing to

15:09

lead the Masters. He is 7-under,

15:11

Scottie Scheffler 6-under, and then you

15:13

got Huygarden Homa at 5-under, and

15:15

then a few other guys after

15:17

that. So that's your Masters update.

15:19

No, I'm not going to give

15:21

you Jordan's speech update. He's out.

15:24

He's don't worry about it. It's all fine. We

15:26

moved on. We passed that.

15:28

Nobody needs to know where Jordan is at. No,

15:30

no. That's everything you need to know. We

15:32

do a quarter past every hour here on

15:35

the Bronx Insult Show. That's

15:37

all you get. I'm sorry. That's all you get. I

15:39

don't know where Tiger's at today. I haven't seen where

15:42

Tiger is. I was sort of trying to check here on the

15:44

leaderboard. I don't know where Tiger is. Did he have an hour

15:46

ago? Oh, here's Tiger. Hold on.

15:48

He is... one over.

15:52

So he's lost two strokes today. It might be windy

15:54

again. I really haven't had a chance to watch this

15:57

morning, but it might be even more than Yesterday

16:00

was brutal watching some of these guys hit

16:02

seeing the ball just take off and totally

16:05

different directions It was obviously a pretty big

16:07

challenge for them. Okay More

16:10

has got some quite more came up with a great idea.

16:12

Let me just start there Maura came

16:15

up with a great idea and

16:17

what I love about it is that

16:19

it preys upon our emotions our

16:21

guts and much

16:24

more so than our brains and our logic

16:26

and It kind of turns

16:28

us all into lizards. So we're gonna do that next

16:30

together. We're all gonna be lizards It's coming up next

16:32

on Brock and socks the other sports on 710 Seattle

16:35

sports calm You

16:38

were listening to a brock and saw power

16:40

through the Alaska Airlines It's

16:48

broken talk sales for 710 salesports.com

16:52

Love this idea from more we are

16:54

under two weeks to go here before

16:57

the NFL Draft Seahawks drafting at number 16 The

16:59

mocks are coming in fast and furious. It's like

17:02

you get two or three It feels like every

17:04

day everybody's throwing out mocks and more mocks and

17:06

more mocks and some of them are familiar, right?

17:08

I think Troy Fouton is probably the most common

17:10

name we've seen And there

17:12

are a few others that you get kind of over and

17:14

over again Then you get some outliers you get some that

17:17

include trade. So the mocks are kind of all over the

17:19

map So Maura in her infinite wisdom

17:21

and I love this said alright, it's one thing

17:23

to talk through What makes

17:25

the most sense use your logic? This

17:27

makes sense here. This is why they

17:29

would want this person These are the

17:31

traits etc. And then there's

17:34

your gut Then there's

17:36

your emotions then there's your

17:39

instant lizard brain reaction of how are

17:41

you gonna feel in? The

17:43

moment when you hear some of these names

17:46

So Maura you put together a list here

17:48

of I don't know five or six names

17:50

that have been commonly mocked At least want

17:52

to just like make up I

17:54

wanted to pick guys that people think

17:56

actually could have a chance absolutely. So you looked at

17:58

I don't we got six or seven and mocks

18:00

here and you put

18:03

some players to them and so

18:05

we will give our reaction. How

18:07

I will feel and I know you're

18:09

going to give yours as well. How you will...

18:11

Justin's going to set this up for us so

18:13

that we can pretend it's draft day. How will

18:16

you feel if and when you hear this called

18:18

by the sale? So again put yourself in those

18:20

shoes. It's draft night, you're with your friends or

18:22

wherever you do it in your man cave, wherever

18:24

you watch your draft. What

18:27

your immediate lizard brain reaction would be. So I'll

18:29

start okay? Ready? Okay. Yes.

18:33

Okay with the 16th pick and the 2024 NFL Draft, the

18:35

CLC Hawks select... Troy

18:38

Foutano, I'm

18:57

now imagining you at every social event when there's an emotional reaction, you're

19:22

just frantically searching for a song to play. Oh yeah, I

19:24

wanted to tell you how I feel about this. Going

19:27

through Spotify like yeah. I knew you two were up to

19:29

something when I got here this morning. You were like huddled

19:31

in a corner and I could tell you were talking about

19:33

songs. And I was like are you doing ranked? And

19:35

you were like no. No. Just

19:38

a little surprise for you Maura. All right. How

19:41

will you feel if it's Troy Foutano? Well to be honest my...

19:43

I think my very

19:46

first initial reaction would be like what? They

19:48

took the guy that everyone mocks this thing?

19:50

Like because that would be the first time

19:52

ever I think in... Right and

19:54

by everyone Mel Kiper, Bruce Feldman, Daniel Jermer. That

19:56

would be a shocker to me. But

19:59

yeah. I would be stoked because I think

20:01

that as much as offensive

20:04

line is not like the sexy pick in the

20:06

draft, that is something

20:08

that they need and everyone seems to think that

20:10

he's a beast and that you can move him

20:12

to guard. There's a couple of reasons

20:14

why I say the right stuff. One,

20:16

he can play guard which they absolutely

20:18

need. Two, he can play tackle which

20:20

gives you defense against Abe Lucas if

20:22

there's injury issues and defense overall

20:24

about Charles Cross either if he gets hurt

20:27

or if in a couple of years

20:29

here you run into a contract dispute,

20:31

whatever, you got this guy for

20:33

two years after that. I do think that

20:35

there are some real advantages to it and

20:37

then more than anything, he's just physical. I

20:39

want them to be more physical. If

20:42

he is the pick and they

20:44

are specifically adding to their physicality,

20:47

I would say that's the right stuff. Not only could

20:49

he play guard, I can't remember who it was that we talked

20:51

to, but someone said that it was impressive

20:53

to them that not only can he do

20:55

it, he has made a point to say I will do

20:57

that. Some guys are like, I

20:59

guess I'll do it if you make me. He's like, no, I'll do that,

21:01

whatever you need. He's already put it out there. I'll

21:05

do the dance even if they draft him. I'll

21:07

do my feet. We'll swing back and forth like

21:09

that. The right stuff. All right, there you go.

21:12

So that's Troy Faltano. With

21:14

the 16th pick, actually we have a trade.

21:16

Oh, a trade? We have a trade. Okay.

21:19

Seahawks have traded picks with the Cardinals.

21:22

I'm 16, they will now be picking at number 23. Okay.

21:25

So with

21:27

the 23rd

21:30

pick, Glambarton

21:33

center from Duke. Who

21:38

are you? I

21:42

don't know you. If

21:47

they take Duke center Glambarton with

21:49

the 23rd pick, my reaction will

21:51

be who? They did what?

21:54

You can thank Lance Serraline for this. Who? Lance

21:57

Serraline is the one that said Glambarton. Yeah,

22:00

I don't know who that is Center

22:02

so that's probably what they're gonna do. Let's probably

22:04

has this one nailed We've

22:06

not talked about Graham Barton. Have we? Yeah,

22:12

yeah, I'm not too sold on that

22:14

one I did look a little further into him

22:16

he's he played left tackle for three seasons Center

22:20

was what he did in 2020 because they had

22:22

injuries, but it's weird that that's what he's kind

22:24

of being considered as for the draft He's

22:28

six five three thirteen arms

22:30

on the shorter side 32 and 7 8 Yeah,

22:34

I just uh, I don't think

22:36

I'd be too excited about that one. I'm not gonna

22:38

lie, especially because would anybody I Saw

22:40

Mel Kiper call him a plug-and-play center. I mean

22:43

they are they just drafted Olu Olu at Timmy

22:45

last year Yeah, I mean, I don't mind them

22:47

necessarily drafting a center but in the first round

22:49

after playing tackle so he can move around but I

22:52

What haven't we talked before about guys being

22:54

kind of positional flexibility? Oh

23:03

All right, okay, that's Graham Barton, okay emotional

23:06

reaction of who Ready

23:08

to move on. Yeah, let's do that. Okay. Now this one back

23:10

at 16 with the Select

23:16

a Marius MIM tackle, Georgia

23:18

Hmm Oh,

23:25

no, oh no. Oh no. Oh no.

23:28

Oh no a blue kiss was done Is

23:33

not what you want it to be okay, that

23:35

would be a big oh no to Abe Lucas

23:38

now Maybe it means one of those guys are

23:40

gonna slide into guard. I don't think it's MIMs,

23:42

right? He's a giant of a human if I

23:44

have the right guy six eight three forty.

23:46

Yeah, I don't think Sliding anywhere.

23:49

I can't are eleven and a quarter.

23:51

Yeah, Dan. I mean, he's a huge

23:53

huge human being So it's not that

23:55

I necessarily don't like the pick the

23:58

physicality, etc. Unless you tell me I've

24:00

asked around, right? Can Abe Lucas

24:02

be a guard? And everyone's kind

24:04

of like, hmm, he can, but

24:06

that's not necessarily the goal. I

24:10

would treat that as an oh no about

24:12

Abe Lucas' knee. Maura? I

24:15

feel like yours are songs that I'm learning that mine

24:17

are more like sound effects in my initial reaction. Because

24:19

I was like, ooh. My last one was, ehh.

24:22

Like intrigued? Intrigued? Ooh,

24:24

or like? I think because he is such a

24:27

physical specimen, I would be excited.

24:30

And I would think that they were probably doing that

24:32

as insurance for Abe Lucas. So that's the part

24:34

that would be disappointing because having

24:37

already spent draft capital there so recently. I don't

24:39

want a first round pick to be insurance. You

24:41

don't have a lot of pick already. You

24:45

just signed George Fink to be insurance. It's not a guy that I would

24:47

be upset about them taking, but I would be upset about what you

24:50

said, what it implies. Yup, yup, yup. And he's

24:52

not moving inside the way Faltano is. So I

24:54

think that would be a little bit more concerning

24:57

than the Faltano. That was Danny Kelly of The

24:59

Ringer, by the way. Those who are

25:01

mad about that. Well, Danny, I'm going to give you the

25:03

big ode to most staff of the Nate Dog. What you

25:05

did in that mock, he said it's because he worries

25:07

about Abe Lucas. There you go. Very, very

25:09

concerning. By the way, underrated song. Most staff's

25:11

awesome. And that is a great, great song.

25:14

Anything with Nate Dogger. Yeah, obviously. Pretty solid.

25:16

And I think Farrah Monches on that song. Okay, we all, we have a

25:18

trade. Oh, we got a trade. We have a trade. Okay.

25:21

The Seahawks and the Steelers have taken a trade. The Seahawks will

25:23

now pick number 20 and number 84. The

25:27

Steelers will be picking at 16 and 151. So

25:29

with the number

25:32

20 pick, NFL

25:34

draft, the Seahawks select Jackson Powers,

25:36

Johnson, and the Patriots.

25:44

Okay. No

25:48

complaints. No

25:55

complaints. I wouldn't necessarily complain about it. I

25:57

mean, the guard center thing.

26:00

Again, I think it's a little early to do

26:02

that, as I said, with Graham Barton, but in

26:04

this case you're getting 84. So, it would sort

26:06

of, I don't know what you were getting in

26:08

the Cardinals trade, that wasn't

26:10

part of it, but I'd need to like 84

26:12

in order to like this. I'd

26:15

need to like what you got in the third round there

26:17

at number 84 in order to like

26:19

this, I would say. But I do think

26:21

that an extra third round pick would be

26:23

pretty valuable in this draft. So, you know,

26:25

maybe that turns into Tavandre's sweat. I don't

26:27

know. Maybe it turns into Zach

26:30

Zinter. So, like there's a lot of reasons

26:32

I could be convinced. I don't

26:34

know that I would like love this, but I don't know that

26:36

I could complain about it. So, I'm

26:38

just going to go with Offset and Drake. Craig in Spokane says,

26:40

yes, Yeah,

26:54

I know Brock likes him.

27:15

He did a draft profile on him, and I know he

27:17

likes him quite a bit. So, You'd

27:53

be making yourself better. We're

27:55

going with the Who. We got two Who songs in here and

27:57

then a bunch of rap songs. I would say If

28:00

they do that, like, yeah, that sounds good. You better do that. But

28:02

it better work out. You know what I

28:04

mean? Oh, yeah, if you're betting on it,

28:06

you better not like do that. It better

28:08

work. Like, if you're gonna go with Byron

28:10

Murphy, I'm not gonna complain about it, certainly.

28:12

But that better work. That better work out,

28:14

I would say. Okay, more? Yeah, I think

28:16

I would say, all right, Mike McDonald. Like,

28:19

that would make me think, like, he's getting

28:21

a say with

28:23

Schneider, for sure. And, you know, he talks about

28:25

wanting to build that, like, wall up

28:27

the middle. And I don't know. I

28:29

would think that he's getting a pretty clear

28:32

say in implementing his plan. And I would

28:34

hope that this defense would

28:37

look a lot different this year. And be,

28:41

like, immediately better if you're gonna spend that kind

28:43

of capital in the first round. But I wouldn't be mad at

28:45

it. Yeah, all right. Good. Okay,

28:47

out of the offensive line. Last one. Final one. Last one.

28:49

Okay, with the 16th pick in the 2024 NFL draft. Seattle,

28:52

Seattle. Michael

28:56

Panix, Jr. Quarterback University.

28:58

Same. I'm like,

29:01

heck yeah. And

29:08

that's the thing, we don't, like, we're

29:10

just into the song, Simon. Stop

29:14

talking over the music, Maura. I think that's the thing, we

29:16

don't know if this is best for them, because they probably

29:18

need more picks early on. But, like, that's the most fun,

29:20

right? Your reaction is L-F-G. Yeah.

29:24

Let's go. How could that

29:26

not be your reaction if they draft? And by

29:28

the way, I think that'll be my reaction with

29:31

a few quarterbacks. Like, if they take a quarterback,

29:33

I will say let's go. If they trade up,

29:35

if they do anything like that, they're not going

29:37

to. I don't think they're even gonna draft Panix.

29:40

But if they do... Let's go! Let's

29:43

go! Let's

29:46

go! Let's go!

29:49

Let's go! I mean, what could call

29:51

for Lil Jon more than that? What

29:56

an Aussie. There's a text saying I had to have

29:58

helped you find that Drake in Aussie. offset they don't

30:00

believe you know that song what are you talking about

30:02

what's the matter with you people why I'm really not

30:04

she did not you think Mora helped me find music

30:07

have you listened to this show ever before

30:09

you know I'm sick of being I do

30:13

suggest a lot of hip-hop songs for ranked yeah but

30:15

I mean come on I did not help him find

30:17

that big

30:31

off that guy I can walk

30:33

offset I mean it was

30:35

you sent me one a long time ago is it me

30:37

goes that you just loved it was a carpool karaoke yeah

30:39

I like me goes in general I think me goes pretty

30:41

good and I love the SNL bit that they did a

30:44

few years ago Oh shall me

30:47

no I don't think okay it's with

30:50

the bit basically as they come come

30:52

in to talk to their therapist it's

30:55

so funny man I do know what you're

30:57

talking about it's a really good bit it's

30:59

me goes talking to their therapist and and

31:01

sesley strong place of therapist got it Chris

31:03

reds in it he's very funny it's a

31:05

it's a good bit this Saturday should be

31:07

good to run Gosling and Chris tableton is

31:09

that true and then if one other person

31:11

tells me I would like Chris Stapleton I

31:13

like you just mad people are suggesting no but

31:16

just like I know I've heard it it's okay

31:18

like so I think you might

31:20

like this I know you don't like country but I think you'd like

31:22

Chris Stapleton like yeah I've heard it

31:24

yeah I don't hate it I don't know if

31:26

I'm like choosing to go like see it or

31:29

anything all right fun stuff thank you more if

31:31

you train for pedics no no no no we're

31:33

going with let's go let's do some blue 88

31:38

blue 88 rock

31:45

you or breaks down three football

31:47

questions as only he can now

31:49

here's your host rock here and

31:51

like saw oh with no Brock

31:53

today let's go with the old friend Bob

32:00

and don't adjoining us from the Seattle Times.

32:02

Hi, Bob. Good morning. Hey,

32:04

Mikey. Yeah. How are you

32:06

doing? You're a big Migos guy,

32:09

too, right? No. Sorry.

32:11

Wrong guy. Sorry. You're

32:14

more of a... We

32:16

bond over Rush and some other... Yeah. ...Migos

32:18

like that, probably more than Migos. All right, Bob,

32:21

you were out there this week. What

32:23

stood out from just sort of chatting with

32:25

the players the other day? What

32:27

was your big takeaway from them showing up

32:29

for voluntary workouts? You

32:33

know, I mean, everybody's saying it's so early, so

32:35

it's really hard to draw any conclusions about like

32:37

where things are headed or things like

32:39

that. But you know, it struck me that they're all just

32:41

kind of saying the right things. And

32:43

you know, for a couple of them, it's significant

32:45

change. You know, Tyler Lockett and Geno Smith and

32:49

Tyler Lockett, obviously, have been here the longest

32:51

and Geno Smith's tenure suddenly is among the

32:54

second or third longest I think on the team. And

32:57

you know, it's going to be really new for

32:59

them. And I think they make

33:02

that clear

33:04

that they

33:07

were surprised about the change from

33:09

Pete and that I think it is going to take them a

33:11

little bit of time to sort of... That it did take them

33:13

a little bit of time to sort of adjust to

33:16

the fact that Pete wasn't going to be there anymore.

33:18

And so that there are... You know, this is going

33:20

to be some significant change coming for them. And so,

33:22

you know, it's good they have all this time now

33:24

to kind of really start that process

33:26

since you don't play a game now

33:29

for six months. How did you take

33:31

the comments from Chana specifically who seemed

33:33

to say, hey, last year was kind

33:35

of messy and it feels like

33:38

a much more positive vibe in the building this

33:40

year. What did you get out of that? Well,

33:43

I mean, obviously it was. I mean, the season didn't

33:45

go the way, you know, especially some of the games

33:47

that they lost, you know, some

33:50

of those mid season games. You know, it's interesting from

33:52

set of standpoint, he only played six games and he

33:54

wasn't here for some of that, you know,

33:56

for some of the period when that was going

33:58

on. So I think maybe... be in his specific

34:00

case, some of that was also just his situation. I

34:03

think he peeked through a little bit that, you know,

34:05

that was the first time he'd been hurt and he

34:07

had to go through his own situation. So I

34:09

took a little bit of what he said as

34:13

from kind of his situation as well.

34:16

Um, you know, and so for him, I think

34:18

it's a much better situation. Obviously coming in that

34:20

he's kind of getting past this. I

34:22

was like, he's gonna be fine. Um,

34:24

I mean, my own take a little bit is

34:26

I think guys are also just struggling for what

34:29

to say because they don't, you know, it was

34:31

overly really new that they haven't, they hadn't done

34:33

through this with the Seahawks and it's only been

34:35

a couple days so far. So I think it's

34:37

really hard for the jock and he's excited. They're

34:39

they're trying to come up with something because they're

34:41

being asked and everybody wants to put a positive

34:43

spin on it right now. All right. Question number

34:45

two. So

34:49

they trade for Sam how a couple of weeks

34:52

ago and I was sort of under the impression

34:54

at that point that that probably took them out

34:56

of the running for a quarterback in the draft

34:58

and then Schneider yesterday with Wyman and Bob said

35:00

that it would not preclude them from drafting a

35:02

quarterback. Do you think that the Seahawks could still

35:05

take a quarterback in the draft in a couple

35:07

of weeks? Yeah, I definitely do.

35:09

You know, he said that to us when we talked to

35:11

him at the league meetings a couple of weeks ago as

35:13

well right after they made that trade. Um,

35:15

you know, he said the biggest thing it did was it meant

35:17

they don't have to, you know, if you got into the

35:20

draft with only Cheetos and you were gonna have to

35:22

quarterback somewhere because you're gonna probably

35:24

have to find a drafted rookie for agent probably

35:26

as well to add a third quarterback to the

35:28

roster. So I think one way or the other

35:30

that they're gonna add a quarterback here. But I

35:33

don't think if the food did at all, you

35:35

know, they didn't really invest that much. You know,

35:37

the trade they made for Sam how is and

35:39

you know, they started just moved out with a

35:42

couple of their picks. It

35:44

wasn't like they gave the picks away. And

35:46

then there's almost zero financial investment. Sam how

35:48

there's no guarantee buddy contracts about a million

35:51

salaries of about $1 million. So you could

35:53

easily spend another quarterback on the on to

35:55

the roster here. Um, so

35:58

I know I I I believe leave

36:00

them on that. I you know like maybe last

36:02

year there was a little bit of subject duties

36:04

going on because you know they probably kind of

36:06

took pictures with guys they knew they were gonna

36:09

have a chance to get all that but I

36:11

think right now everything

36:13

to do you know you got a new head coach I

36:15

think to throw out a lot of the past the

36:18

question that's out the window and I think if I

36:20

think if someone really fell at their lap at 16

36:23

you know I think they could take a shot at it and

36:25

then I also think they put it somewhere else in

36:27

the draft I think if there's a guy in the third or fourth

36:29

round that's there I think they could do

36:31

that as well I think this is sort of

36:33

a time when you know you're reset the roster

36:35

a little bit so I definitely think they're looking.

36:37

Let's say they did trade for a quarter to

36:39

select a quarterback with 16 do you think

36:42

they could look to then trade howl to one

36:45

of the other teams that was interested in him

36:47

later in the draft? Maybe

36:50

I think a couple of those teams have all

36:52

kind of gotten quarterbacks since then I mean I

36:54

think it's the Rams Vikings and Denver I think

36:56

were the teams that were among those my

37:03

understanding is who were the teams that were interested in

37:06

howl so maybe you'd circle back and see

37:08

if there's interest out there for but you

37:10

know it's also those teams might then also

37:12

take care of that in the draft itself

37:14

you know themselves as well I

37:17

think Denver definitely will I think everybody you

37:19

know I think the consensus right now is

37:21

Denver is probably gonna add a quarterback you know

37:23

with their first pick so if

37:26

they do that I doubt they'd be interested in doing that

37:28

so I don't know how great of a market there'd really

37:30

be for that I think you know and I think they

37:32

like Sam Howell a lot you know I think they

37:34

want to throw him into the competition and see but again

37:36

I just think I think this is the time in the

37:39

history of the franchise to go ahead and you

37:41

know kind of have a quarterback maybe to

37:44

get it you know sort of like where

37:46

they were in 2012 when they drafted Russell

37:48

up to big sign back with it you

37:50

know they then they yep that was about

37:52

the fourth quarterback in three years

37:55

that they'd added to the roster I think this is sort

37:57

of a time of the franchise that to be like that

37:59

again Question number three,

38:01

what's your

38:04

expectation moving forward for Abe Lucas?

38:07

Whether it's health wise, position wise, what do

38:09

you see in the cards for Abe? Yeah,

38:12

I know there's been speculation about moving it

38:15

inside. I haven't heard that at all. You

38:17

know, he's never played inside, so it would

38:19

be asking him to do something he doesn't

38:21

have any real game experience doing, but maybe

38:24

you could give that a shot I guess,

38:26

depending on what happens, but I haven't gotten

38:28

that vibe. That's something they're really considering. I

38:31

do just think they signed George Fant just

38:33

to sort of, you know, they don't want

38:35

to get stuck where they were last year.

38:37

When they suddenly had some injuries

38:39

there, they suddenly were,

38:41

you know, signing 41-year-old Jason Peters

38:43

off the street and having him have

38:46

to play. I think they're

38:48

just trying to avoid that with the fans'

38:50

side, because I think they feel like that

38:52

really did kind of, you know,

38:55

derail the offense a little bit

38:57

last year, where both those guys got hurt the

38:59

way they did. So I think they're just kind

39:01

of, you know, see what, you know, cover themselves

39:03

there. You know, they said

39:05

that this is gonna be ready for

39:07

the start of the season, that they hoped that the

39:09

surgery that he had after the year, and we didn't

39:11

get great details on exactly what that

39:15

fixed, but Josh Sider did

39:17

just tell us that, you know, he thought that

39:19

was gonna fix everything and get him healthy. It

39:23

just made him being ready for the start of

39:25

training camp. So, you know, I think we maybe

39:27

need to wait until then and see if he

39:29

is ready and then see where it goes from

39:32

there. But, you know, who

39:35

knows what they do in the draft, and so

39:37

maybe they do some of the draft that changes

39:39

my thought on that. But at the moment, I do

39:41

just think they want to, you know, they anticipate it

39:43

being the starting right tackle, and

39:45

they sign George Fann just to, you know,

39:47

to be that guy who can be that

39:49

swing back up that, you know, I think

39:51

they felt again like that really hurt them

39:54

last year when they didn't have an experience,

39:56

another experience tackle on their roster. Ably

40:00

done, Bob. That's Bob Condota from the Seattle

40:03

Times filling in for Brock today with some

40:05

blue 88 answer So just two weeks away

40:07

not even you have are you starting to

40:09

get a sense? Do you have a gut

40:11

feeling about what they do at 16? Not

40:16

really, huh? I think the

40:18

I think they you know It's

40:21

been interesting you see kind of more more of the mocks and

40:23

stuff like that and and While

40:25

I don't everybody makes fun of those I do always feel like

40:27

those you know Those are a little bit

40:29

of a reflection of what people of

40:31

the general center of what the draft is And it seems

40:33

like you see a little bit more Other

40:36

than the Caleb Williams pick a little bit more

40:38

uncertainty And what's going to happen at the top

40:40

of the draft that I think we've had in

40:42

some of these years And so I think just

40:44

the officer really do try to be light on

40:46

their feet Just see what happens and see who's

40:48

available there and be ready for something Unexpected

40:50

happening and be ready to to kind of pounce

40:52

on that so I don't know that they're they're

40:54

sitting there locking themselves It that we for sure

40:56

gonna do this you know do do a be

40:59

your scene no matter what I think they're gonna

41:01

wait and see a little bit of who's available

41:03

and and you know try to have a lot

41:05

of scenarios in their minds there because I think

41:07

I Think 16 is right at that spot where?

41:10

You know you have to be a little bit more prepared for that

41:13

You know where you know that there's some things

41:15

that might happen But you also know that there's

41:17

something really unexpected happens a couple picks ahead of

41:19

you that that's a really set off a domino

41:21

effect That maybe makes somebody available to you have

41:23

anticipated great stuff Bob appreciate it Thanks for spending

41:25

a few minutes with us you guys know to

41:28

follow Bob and to read them on the Seattle

41:30

Times Seattle Times comm thank you

41:32

sir. We'll talk soon Okay,

41:34

there's my there you go. There's there's Bob

41:36

Kindota beat reporter long time now beat reporter

41:38

covering the Seahawks for the Times And

41:41

some good stuff there for Blue 88 all

41:43

right well people seem to be back on the

41:45

quarterback bandwagon after everybody kind of jumping Off the

41:48

idea all of a sudden. We're all Flooding

41:50

back to the possibility maybe there's some smoke

41:52

streams See ox trying to convince other people to

41:54

trade in and around but maybe they'll take

41:56

a quarterback at 16th and to that I

41:58

will say let's go Stableton you

42:00

spread give me you know I you know I have and

42:02

then I've listened to him and I thought he was just

42:04

Okay, you just gave him a shot. Yeah, if I just

42:06

tried it. Yeah, then maybe I'd like it. I think it's

42:08

fine I don't not like it. Just give

42:10

me a shot like if you know I'm not a big

42:12

music person No, I would say more than just okay. I

42:14

think his voice is pretty Not

42:16

even like the biggest fan, but from what I've heard I think his voice.

42:18

Yeah, he's got a very good voice Absolutely. Yeah,

42:20

I know he's got a good voice Don't

42:24

really like his music that much. I think it's

42:26

fine alright coming up Shannon Dreher is gonna join

42:28

us. We'll switch gears talk some baseball What are

42:30

the Mariners need to do now that they're home,

42:32

and what's the biggest concern that's next on brock

42:34

and sulk?

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