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Hour 3-Saying goodbye to a VMAC legend, Bruce Feldman (The Athletic)

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Hour 3-Saying goodbye to a VMAC legend, Bruce Feldman (The Athletic)

Hour 3-Saying goodbye to a VMAC legend, Bruce Feldman (The Athletic)

Thursday, 11th April 2024
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0:01

This season Brock and saw

0:04

your the and Mark Matt

0:06

martyrs I'm sorry about just

0:08

like my blog. Seattle Sports

0:10

Howard. Through the Alaska Airlines

0:12

Studio your. Deck good job.

0:15

Kept their in the park and

0:17

presented by Simply Seattle Now hear your

0:19

hosts Rocky, Weird and My Song. Segments

0:23

here. Brock as we have

0:26

lost a staple in the

0:28

Seattle sports community. It's

0:31

been. Fifteen

0:33

years since we first

0:35

saw. The

0:39

basketball hoop put up there at the V.

0:41

Mack in the team meeting room. And

0:44

now it's gone. We

0:47

wondered how Mike Macdonald. Would

0:50

handle. Such

0:52

a mainstay in the community.

0:54

The Seahawks community and away.

0:56

or at least in that

0:59

room. It was so connected

1:01

to his predecessor, Pete Carroll.

1:03

Harpy. Part

1:06

of the definition of that building. For

1:09

nearly a decade and a half life.

1:11

And as Tyler Lockett told us yesterday,

1:16

Is gone has been three

1:19

days. You know the biggest

1:21

differences. know best. So.

1:25

Those. The on an indoor unless they take

1:27

it out. A old hard to say

1:29

goodbye Brock as you know. It's

1:36

Rim Net. Back.

1:39

Board that past while Who could talk? Actually

1:42

this asked about who could talk to be

1:45

honest and idea that think these things.

1:49

The privy to some if screw

1:51

top story interests. Sure. So

1:54

it's gone. The basketball hoop is

1:56

no more. What?

1:59

Should replace it and I think that's a

2:01

that's the question Just announced yesterday Smurf just

2:03

was even before we get oh you're still

2:05

are I peeing and I am as a

2:08

sign of that. see our communities and agree

2:10

to do think they had to like. Really?

2:13

Take that thing apart to the one in the

2:15

indoor is just keeping. Go get that one. It's

2:17

a dick. Sporting goods he rolled out thing in

2:19

you fill it with say underwater he a lot

2:21

of things he into the middle the night sprite

2:23

that he just success elephant in the great seemingly

2:26

coffee months after after was bolted he was a

2:28

real basketball me you think they had to scrap

2:30

it like there's no way that you could just

2:32

put that some are also give away and right

2:34

at the life that that thing provided was it

2:37

ended up I did. Will somebody got it they

2:39

don't even know. Hey Pete probably shifted to the

2:41

North Shore. Hawaiian is hanging out. Soon started

2:43

a day or so what should replace

2:45

Adjusted what we are what are some

2:47

ideas. what could do? What could be

2:49

there in Mad T meeting room so

2:51

they could still have on a what

2:53

better place to put a side by

2:55

side race car driving machine or two

2:57

layers. Next some sellers settle in are

2:59

you have an in like arcade setting

3:01

or the jet ski, one of the

3:04

motorcycle or whatever. Or. Thing

3:06

I have any other. our kids dance dance

3:08

revolution via did one reason to dance dance

3:10

revolution people really fired upon that I have

3:12

a about a sportswriter to be a sport.

3:15

It's gotta be something else that elicits com

3:17

crash and so on August so they can

3:20

give him my tether ball. yeah pointed has

3:22

around your arm up in it on somebody

3:24

said a block yes us how intense that

3:26

would get that Plus I mean they would

3:29

need a bunch of extra tether balls recess

3:31

and and you put a foursquare court next

3:33

to a do for some wrong games of

3:35

those words that are forcing as aren't ah

3:38

many or use of long and slow this

3:40

war mind game. Like. Shuffleboard them

3:42

a taste more delicate, the more

3:44

of a touch. Ah, or like

3:46

us, maybe skee ball take in

3:48

touch? And. Know they'll It's gets gotta

3:51

be something delicious. Competition doesn't need to bring the

3:53

spirit back to what the hoop represent. To

3:55

just be like a leisure side thing of sodomy.

3:58

Firing. Shuffleboard. Ah, Didn't.

4:01

I didn't quite have that. I have the firebombing

4:03

the front and was simply board. Is it Remy?

4:05

Now are you talking about the shuffle board tables?

4:07

Are you talking about the shuffle board like on

4:09

the ground with the yeah with like this as

4:11

geared towards I curling did the new ones that

4:13

are like her or with with the parks okay

4:16

that one's a little bit more yeah with the

4:18

Sam themselves. lot of that. There's a bit more

4:20

intense in again and I think you can't remember

4:22

him. As. A wieners the hangars.

4:24

Moroccan Thanksgiving Skee ball. Of. Most

4:26

common sense given us are yes keep

4:28

looking and interest on like into what

4:30

about outside the box lot of her

4:33

Positively build their own Emmy Money's no

4:35

issue rather than plenty of money down

4:37

the work they built their own big

4:39

game hunter are Bbh bill parallel putting

4:41

out like a Bengal you had a

4:43

lie union or am yet a Cardinal

4:45

my kids played began on idea for

4:47

your high you know the other. Seems

4:49

like it sounds like the beginning of

4:51

our goodbyes the last Boy Scout. A

4:53

little problematic but I do like the

4:55

idea of. Yeah of those

4:57

games via. Wasn't on what's the

5:00

golf game that they have an all the bars

5:02

or in the winter fall goons. Essentially that might

5:04

be a problem for the guys on hand. So

5:06

I get you don't need anybody hurting their i

5:08

now than t related injury and keep somebody on

5:10

the approve of the injury you know what? So

5:12

you are on this honest I think before anybody

5:14

else I think that they got even worse and

5:16

I had Bs and it was first question on

5:18

your notes that they did. We asked did you

5:20

ask my quick donna when we sat down the

5:23

essence of it you did right? yes and he

5:25

was a scam like well you know we'll see

5:27

the get There was no way that who posting.

5:29

And there was no way. I wouldn't say

5:31

because it's freedom to put fanatic whatever live

5:33

with it was ill the essence of competition

5:36

and it was in. I bet you there

5:38

are hoops in other team rooms around the

5:40

league or if not in the league certainly

5:42

room college where you're just trying to innovate

5:44

you trying to adapt to trying to do

5:47

with Pete did for so long here and

5:49

that sustains us competitive excellence you know and

5:51

getting people out of their comfort zone As

5:53

really what it was like yeah you know

5:56

you take competitors and certainly some guys are

5:58

could super. You can do it. You're going to good. Do for

6:00

everybody and are going to compete on

6:02

a Carefree? Got a terrible shoddy guess?

6:04

you'd underhanded like Rick Barry are you

6:06

going to get up there and you're

6:08

going to compete? So it's like hundred

6:10

thousand lot of our thousand and over

6:12

the top arm wrestling, same house lot

6:14

of people, same air hockey and probably

6:16

minimal. again thought Iraq is probably the

6:18

most common taxes or any a jam

6:20

or don't like whoever fumbles has to

6:22

go sit madame tank or something and

6:24

him then throw things out and ah

6:27

how many giants last car race track

6:29

you really slot cars as again. And

6:31

know there are other terrible It's like on a

6:33

track you build a whole race traveling and little

6:35

hands. controller of all hands are you at and

6:37

and they'd be the cars would run in that

6:40

little slot. what about the the punch out one

6:42

or sees you as the put the number of

6:44

how hard you hit the bow yeah pretty broken

6:46

hands and up on that. but indian a princely.

6:49

Are I'd fall, say goodbye or ip

6:52

in the yard to the a basketball

6:54

hoop. That was such a big go

6:56

to the community over there for Sony

6:58

Ericsson. That mouse it has no more

7:00

health now Sold! Off of.

7:04

Like the idea of them like selling

7:07

it on craigslist or hundred number to

7:09

raise my something else? maybe of of.

7:12

Okay, Ah, I'm Bruce Feldman going to join

7:15

his and twenty marry Okay machine Now Bruce.

7:17

I'm going to join us and twenty he's

7:19

got new mock draft out. His was join

7:21

us yesterday and we got our wires crossed

7:23

Swords ought to Bruce coming up here in

7:25

a bit. After everything you need to know

7:28

including it's a big win yesterday for your

7:30

Seattle Mariners. Had they. Get it done some

7:32

of the old fashioned way next of Rapunzel.

7:37

Need to know. Minutes

7:39

test every hour with

7:41

Sox. Here's what you need

7:43

to know. What

7:45

game for the Mariners yesterday? They needed

7:48

it. they needed a when on the

7:50

road before coming home us and he

7:52

needed a couple of plays to get

7:54

it done. Started with Jorge Poem co

7:56

who sent them to extra innings with

7:58

a really nice over the shoulder the

8:00

Caspian Sea sickly short right feel the

8:02

given some of the defense of struggles

8:04

he's had to start this curve this

8:06

season they needed and then it was

8:09

Tower Ali in the for hims. If

8:11

it's the town's he swings it suits

8:13

this the battle right field still see

8:15

strike against. Go

8:25

ahead of vanished Rod

8:27

Hall, Ron and. Ammo

8:30

matters are and fraud Three, you know

8:32

why did actress so shame on me?

8:34

Because obviously those two moments are going

8:36

to stand out from the same rock

8:38

and a man with a seat and

8:40

of scoring six runs for the first

8:42

time is is great. He needed. With

8:46

this moment overstep the he goes seven

8:48

and two thirds dominant innings only allows

8:50

one run on the say home run

8:52

this afterwards he was he was happy

8:55

Yeah the one in the law than

8:57

how we did it too because it's.

9:00

Kind of the identity we've had for a

9:02

few years now does as the games and

9:04

put back are lame attempt there and. Needing

9:06

a when and and doing it and that

9:09

kind of thousands of lot about the team

9:11

on and fell out of the bullpen to

9:13

munoz what he did for me Conan and

9:15

of expire. On the help out

9:17

of town and and Santa Cruz well. Seven.

9:21

And two thirds a key is just

9:23

one marks or mail through three starts,

9:25

twenty three strikeouts for three walks. My.

9:28

Guys command right now. He's always had good

9:30

command but it feels like it's getting to

9:32

that next level with comey goodness. Had a

9:34

people sit down on people and yeah it's

9:36

a guy everyone, a map all was off

9:39

the bat there in the bottom of the

9:41

night. didn't think we were going to get

9:43

us. not. To

9:45

the good will.far right, very real years.

9:48

Me like is that the hit It's

9:50

gonna win this game for this him

9:52

and instead I target good plays not

9:54

point. It wasn't like an exceptional play

9:57

play and are needed in a very

9:59

big. Body language they really really

10:01

needed. So a nice when for the

10:03

Mariners yesterday. They come home only two

10:05

and a half game that of the

10:08

division lead with only hundred and forty

10:10

nine to play as Bryce Miller. Will

10:12

go tomorrow. Pubs are seven and five.

10:18

You. Need to sell the outside their opportunity

10:21

Us It's sad little bit with the media

10:23

yesterday really for the first time since the

10:25

coaching change we heard from the leaders Geno

10:27

Smith understandably affected by that day at they

10:29

are as they are probably remember forever since

10:32

the cover how things have a for me

10:34

here obviously know cause Carol are big and

10:36

forth on my career or help me out

10:38

of was when I came from the organization

10:40

in or really no help me both mean

10:43

for the follow them on the now and

10:45

so ah for me was kind of well

10:47

as a terrible moment nausea. Someone that I

10:49

love so much. No. I haven't part

10:51

ways with him but you know that the

10:53

within a full of where they go and

10:55

are very sided know for for we either

10:57

Now. Or. Just Director as died. Really

11:00

wonder what that was like for him in

11:02

particular right? Because not only does I'm sure

11:04

he feel for P Than and have a

11:06

level of loyalty for a guy that absolutely

11:08

changed his life of an area of right

11:11

back from I know think our fragile his

11:13

career was right. May was looking to go

11:15

to the Cfl he was he was done

11:17

yeah and then empower them and Pete believed

11:19

in him and yeah I mean peace peace

11:22

gonna go down and are some fun to

11:24

move zone yesterday for brown was and it's

11:26

are talking about the Elmo Be in a.

11:28

Ferocious defense and everything they did in that

11:30

Rona for five years that defensively was as

11:32

good as any in the history of the

11:35

Nfl. That is where people be remembered for

11:37

the really those. The byline to it should

11:39

be what he did with rice and what

11:41

he did would genome was pretty darn. Very

11:43

erratic behavior Gino. In that moment I got

11:45

to imagine not only was he thinking i

11:47

feel bad for the sky his thinking is

11:50

my career talks like a my outta here

11:52

and this was my guy. This was the

11:54

person who wanted me most in this organization

11:56

and now he's no longer gonna be here.

11:58

So or he does. That his communication

12:00

with Mike Mcdonalds been pretty good from the

12:02

bay or for some your heart or we're on

12:05

phone talking and texting and and great communication

12:07

I think that's something that are he wants and

12:09

I think we'll do a great job that

12:11

is always know communicate with one another and of

12:13

you know from what I've seen so far man

12:15

he's got to visit He's got a plan. Or

12:18

he already laid it out for the team and

12:20

it's our job or to help him and his

12:22

job to help us get there. And so all

12:24

right now we're just like us. in the beginning

12:26

stages of all this. Ah, But you know

12:28

he, he's who played on last year with Ravens

12:31

man you to tell how his team worked in

12:33

is how good they were as deep as last

12:35

year, how they excelled at a distance herself or

12:37

we know the type scheme that he has. When.

12:39

Also the top leadership that he brings with have

12:42

a man that he is an overall just been

12:44

a great coach in or something in the forties.

12:47

Trying. It on on a piece revised to do not. Keep.

12:50

Your shirt off. I'm

12:52

excuse me Sir Francis no room yesterday

12:54

not my shirt are at play the

12:56

next I just want and now they

12:59

can take a shirt hard. You

13:02

to know. Why?

13:06

My. Mom

13:10

and is fine, but you're not paying

13:12

like network housebound. Would he be them

13:14

that is? Find that guy. Ah, Masters

13:16

underway. Ah was seen a couple guys

13:18

have one under and the people who

13:21

are farthest have made it through my

13:23

free whole self. Nothing are particularly interesting

13:25

going on there yet. over Danny Willett

13:27

former Masters champ. After the Jordan calamity,

13:29

it'll Danny was little Danny Willett. Yup.

13:31

After the Jordan collapse, he's one under

13:34

through one. Ah I'm news coming out

13:36

earlier this morning. O J. Simpson has

13:38

died at the age of seventy six.

13:40

I did not know he had cancer

13:42

and I'm not really but we're adding

13:45

that time he was Young Outcomes Cancer

13:47

Office today or yesterday. but Oj Simpson

13:49

is no more and I we've or

13:51

spent some time talking about this story

13:53

u dub very serious story was time

13:56

with that type of Rodgers running back

13:58

who's been charged with to. Second

14:00

and third degree rape and two separate incidents

14:02

have to separate women nineteen and twenty two

14:04

years old. Both took place at their homes

14:07

after connecting with them on dating sites or

14:09

and read through the story mode and on

14:11

my I saw farm and it is not.

14:14

It is disgusting, is really hard to read,

14:16

it is absolutely gross or and one I

14:18

guess last to remove some what's going on

14:20

in the sports world now. thirty six of

14:23

the forty treatment for games probably can be

14:25

forty forty or maybe animal Four of them

14:27

are already bought by Apple or something else.

14:30

Can be on national platform with thirty six

14:32

to forty games for Caitlin Clark. Gonna be

14:34

on national television? Cbs and broker in a

14:36

new deal with a W M B A.

14:38

You create that kind of hysteria you bring

14:40

in those kind a number salt of these

14:42

Tv executives notice and we are going see

14:44

a lotta Miss Clark on national television. Call

14:46

our I. That is everything you need to

14:48

know. quarter past every hour here on the

14:51

broken sort of. I should point out one

14:53

other thing so person's going to join us

14:55

in a moment. For we do that, I

14:57

should tell the people. Were. Known old school today

14:59

brought. Some. We haven't done

15:01

in ages. When's. The last

15:04

time we had a good old sounds

15:06

getting off on did he do it

15:08

without me? When you were single often

15:10

some. To. The Max song so ever

15:12

do I don't believe so no I don't

15:14

think it. I don't think we ever did.

15:16

so it's they do. remember the guy getting

15:18

on the hood of the car on four

15:20

or five yes that have of the the hi

15:22

I'm in I was one of the great

15:24

moments of things. we the people sing guns

15:26

and roses. I think we have people think

15:28

kid rock for tickets like we don't a

15:30

lot of us over the years. Saturday at nine

15:33

thirty we have tickets for tickets. To.

15:35

See: Def Leppard and Journey with

15:37

Steve Miller Mans. At. T Mobile,

15:39

The Sir September. And we're going

15:41

to give away a four pack of tickets. To

15:44

somebody who's willing to saying so. This

15:46

is not Metallic and Twenty Twenty Nine

15:48

know didn't know someone up this this

15:50

home visits September In September this is

15:52

a lot of summer ads. Earth as

15:54

a sad sad T Mobile. Yeah,

15:57

Def Leppard! So we have a selection of

15:59

Def Leppard songs. The selection of Juri you're

16:01

going and if you wanted advice also go with

16:03

your. you can only see that the for has

16:05

been Def Leppard twice. I've never seen Journey have

16:07

seen Def Leppard twice. They were phenomenal both times.

16:10

See. None of my months. I

16:12

wouldn't say they're my favorite band

16:14

necessarily of that era, but I

16:16

could not believe how good they

16:18

sounded. Full. Of in

16:20

the when you start going through other songs like on

16:22

all the worst to all of the right. Yeah I

16:24

heard of Water Atlases a more catalog is ridiculous you

16:26

in this day and age people will still do it.

16:28

Still seeing Vegas have the guts to do it in

16:31

their office to good question start thinking now is your

16:33

i never got that a challenge more a to erase

16:35

these people that are of the god I think that's

16:37

less than. One of the Southern Alps how shall

16:39

we ask people to? seeing. Mom are we

16:41

allowed them for a million a month on. Want

16:43

people to? That's true. Yeah, some people saying that

16:45

so I would assume the still some folks out

16:47

there that are willing to do is start thinking

16:49

now, Nine Thirty will do it. Eight Six Six

16:51

Nine Seven Nine Three Seven Seven Six If you

16:54

need to write down that number if you want

16:56

to try to win these the tickets The Def

16:58

Leppard and Journey Eight Six Six Months of a

17:00

Nine Three Seven Seven Six. Be prepared. know what

17:02

you're gonna sing. We've got a selection of songs

17:04

for Yeah and will do that. Someone up about

17:06

an hour from now coming up. Next though the

17:08

sought to Bruce Feldman, he's got a mock draft.

17:10

With a very familiar name and number sixty and

17:12

that's why does everybody have the same name? We

17:14

gotta ask a man and more next. This

17:19

is broth and sark. Powered

17:21

through the Alaska Airlines julio.

17:25

Seattle the most. Points.

17:29

Behind the text messages coming in at

17:32

the moment with the i could go

17:34

the resonance hate mongering Journey that much

17:36

Ah thought you did a Journey sing

17:38

off before Thousand one. a guy totally

17:40

shocked after claiming he did Journey have

17:42

a time a karaoke on remember last

17:44

through maybe we did. Ah I'll sing

17:47

my bought off from Carter in Tacoma.

17:49

Def Leppard My favorite band. I've seen

17:51

them a couple times and never seen Journey

17:53

and I sing karaoke or will get ready

17:55

to find the right now I'm traveling around

17:57

I think when we did karaoke one night.

18:00

The Joe Davis did Neil Diamond ahead.

18:02

Bruce did Journey Don't Stop Believing See

18:04

Perry? I think he went up there.

18:06

Ah yeah, that's Hexham. that's not gonna

18:09

lie as I take. so you better

18:11

you better really believe in yourself to

18:13

work to try to hit that song

18:15

by yourself. are Bruce Feldman joins us

18:18

right now. it's getting too serious business.

18:20

Talk about the draft. Two weeks from

18:22

today. Bruce, Good morning hours sir. I'm.

18:25

Doing well you know it takes a serious doubts

18:27

rocket try to ask Bob Stoops just one more

18:29

question in the middle of it in. Such

18:33

as adults are you like that and the

18:35

opening my eyes you I believe. I love

18:38

that I was. I have version that like

18:40

man it's a good thing that's not our

18:42

wedding arm and a black ball game or

18:44

whatever to have their culture. What happened is

18:46

that ah ah what you know we push

18:48

the envelope at the you Fl socket. yeah

18:51

we get access down there. And and like

18:53

Bruce who unfortunately when you're sideline reporter in

18:55

college. Or the Nfl your concordance one area I

18:57

get to just hang out. the guys on talking

18:59

and to bomb and I said hey reminds you

19:02

know live on tv if we can abuse talk

19:04

to you what you senior so sweet into play

19:06

and a good a second play by the third

19:08

one is like okay I got to go coach

19:10

I've done with this nonsense. How far. Down

19:13

some A forgive me for good television

19:15

news been part of Yep. That's

19:18

what happened cc Zoc. Bruce watches is

19:20

a friend. He watches the you Fl.

19:22

that does take a friend. yes it

19:24

does. He realize I've used as magic.

19:27

I would their money that I'm a Bigger Blocks lives

19:29

and and some of the people who last name or

19:31

keyword who that the house with them or an Alpine

19:33

out of sorts of what I mean if you're launching

19:35

those your home games you must have. That

19:38

are really really impressive. Friendship right there. Sought

19:40

to me. Two weeks from today. Breezy, two

19:42

weeks from today. This draft. Every one of

19:44

them unique. Every one of them different can

19:46

like your own kids. Every one of them

19:48

is just their own. The marches of their

19:50

own be. Where does this draft in? your

19:52

I said. I

19:55

think it's a really good draft. It's

19:57

a to me as a great drops

19:59

or receivers. I

20:01

did goods adding years for that

20:03

are that are really elite. Ninety

20:05

Two Tabby, another eight or nine

20:07

that I think will be big

20:09

time contributors in the Nfl. Pretty

20:11

pretty quick. Ah, I think there's

20:13

a there's a great offensive tackle

20:15

in some then some really good

20:17

offensive linemen in the draft. And.

20:19

Then the cornerback part of this there's obviously

20:21

going to probably be. I think though, there

20:23

may be six the go in the first

20:25

round, and I think they're probably five that

20:27

ago in the first. as team. By.

20:30

Do. You know the track record New not

20:33

talk about this a lot offline. Know it's

20:35

hard to tell you know depending on what

20:37

did they go into. Who's. Gonna

20:39

disappoint and how they're gonna react

20:41

to adversity, but it's not that

20:43

usually tell the tale of okay

20:45

out of the quarterbacks pan out

20:47

but I think it's a really

20:49

good draft. You fit into a

20:51

large category of people that have

20:53

the Seahawks taking. Try Catano a

20:55

number sixteen. What? What leads you

20:57

to that? heck. Are

21:00

you need help up upfront there? I

21:02

mean there's a need. obviously you have

21:05

to my yard. He would grab the

21:07

in the officer coordinator that he knows

21:09

he. I think there's to truly elite

21:11

offensive lineman coming out of the Pac

21:14

twelve. The sure in out of the

21:16

the Civic North last two. Aga is

21:18

a guy everybody raves about and for

21:20

Palmer is very similar armed. In terms

21:23

of that I mean he he I

21:25

just stayed. Know I I

21:27

thought he was a dominant offensive lineman. Don't

21:29

ask them to do some different things and

21:32

maybe it wasn't like he was. He.

21:34

Was plan and a big ten. Ah, science.

21:36

You But I say that.

21:40

If. He still there and I think he probably

21:42

will still be there but if you still there

21:44

are they don't be a terrific fits all of

21:46

this. What the Seahawks mean, What they're getting. Just

21:48

in terms of you know this is a. In

21:51

on there's definitely. Some. Some know

21:54

the depths and shoes apartments also that

21:56

I think you. Could. Play tap

21:58

to play guard as. Well. Then.

22:00

I do that also could help out

22:03

the short term. You know I'm look

22:05

to your twitter ends. Polarizing. Polarized.

22:08

Polarized in I get in your just quoting

22:10

so many of these different scouts, an analyst

22:12

and coaches that you are network to Bruce

22:14

And it wasn't just about Michael panics and

22:17

isn't just about shit Drake mates. I think

22:19

a lot of these Qbs are polarizing. Is

22:21

this about as Polarize in a group? so

22:23

can we do the rapid fire? The turned

22:25

into a slow death crawl because I was

22:28

just thinking through every one of his questions.

22:30

For me, is this is polarizing? Hq be

22:32

class the sexes you can remember. Things

22:35

are starting to come on. His cousin

22:38

is not what you know as Andrew

22:40

Luck. I guess that you can go

22:42

nitpick about the quarter that one or

22:44

another, but you have to popular Caleb

22:46

who does some amazing stuff. But man,

22:48

hold onto the ball our time. And

22:50

and t how long could you get

22:52

away with that? Yeah, that's how. You're

22:56

living that way. Largest I do it

22:58

at a case of a living that

23:00

way. Then you have. You. Know

23:02

Jane Day or Soo Do add a

23:04

phenomenal year and kept getting better and

23:06

better. Ah, I'm Anna, I thought you

23:09

know your keys to better the two

23:11

first round to probably top fifteen receivers

23:13

that he had, but he played in

23:15

the Fcc and more the dynamic of

23:17

Honor and gotten that so much better

23:19

as a passer. By you

23:22

know I I think there's. There's. A

23:24

lot to like thereby the there's A, There's

23:26

a little bit hesitation on okay are we

23:28

see and everything here with him and then

23:30

and is also not the biggest guys like

23:32

is taller, the cattle wire a and how

23:34

old were you hold up Then there's Drake

23:36

May who. From. The coaches I talked

23:38

to face them directly with action and most

23:40

polarizing of the of the quarterbacks. I didn't

23:43

panic since the most polarizing if you ask

23:45

draft Twitter That. But. If you

23:47

ask such as your face them the people

23:49

people I can't allow by products his arm

23:51

talent. it wasn't a dink and dunk off

23:53

lands. Now we talked about this a lot.

23:55

he is battle to real adversity come to

23:57

the other side to the team that was.

24:00

We're in a with largely the same last

24:02

year and they went twenty five and two.

24:04

We. Know I am a believer

24:06

in panic. Drake made a part that gives

24:08

some people pause. You can throw the heck

24:10

out of it. Got really good size and

24:13

athletic. But. Unlike

24:15

most elite as and distracting transferred except

24:17

for him and Jj Mccarthy. Farm.

24:20

Eat as you played into system go also

24:22

eating transfer but they went from a version

24:24

of the air raids are white November of

24:26

last year olds are plenty and their guys

24:28

I talked to lovers talent but also like

24:31

man when we played on the body get

24:33

really scared and the pocket and he wasn't

24:35

the same the i didn't have the same

24:37

feel for that sam our demands on the

24:39

better but. Ah, So the

24:41

first minister jim because you didn't put up big

24:43

staff and that an ass in the thrown all

24:45

over the place. But. He won. it's on

24:47

a games he can tell really well on the run.

24:50

And. Is a dynamic athlete and

24:52

varies a lot of stuff. People really like

24:54

him. When they meet with him they get

24:56

wow Buys the by the Jim Harbaugh. Trains.

24:59

Him to do stuff that probably honestly you're

25:01

trying to do as a that at all

25:03

die. Young. Couple. Of decades

25:06

known as an assault on she's really like

25:08

to read your had that would your much

25:10

it would Jim Harbaugh if you are if

25:12

you were looking for quarterback an animal in

25:15

the Seahawks are these the seem not to

25:17

be and that seems to be why they

25:19

traded for same how own gone now in

25:21

a different direction with quarterbacks are just so

25:24

fascinating specially in this group. Is there one

25:26

treat the you look at and say either

25:28

this is something you have to have or

25:30

this is the one treat that scares me

25:33

is it with we've seen so many quarterbacks.

25:35

Boston at that rate is so challenging over

25:37

the years. Is there any thread the you've

25:39

ever iraq kind of fucked up on. Na.

25:43

I lose a couple things. It's

25:45

like how. Savvy.

25:47

Are they in July when they see

25:50

and process information? And he has

25:52

a big saying. I mean I was around job

25:54

or a lot his last year at Dulles you

25:56

those early blown away by user their clothes on

25:58

the field. Now it's a man. And everything

26:00

else. Bomb. For me, that's a

26:02

huge staying. In a mostly you

26:05

guys have of a nuff arm. To.

26:08

To be very good at or underwriter

26:10

system. Are you know whether a D

26:12

or you don't need John Milton? his arm. To

26:14

be to be a really successful

26:16

Nfl quarterback. On adding to challenge

26:19

for some of the other one's life by

26:21

of the first second draft to be hard

26:23

not to roll the dice Son Caleb. By.

26:28

Are you know. Your

26:30

stuff And stuff that would give you pause about him

26:32

Now. N N. that

26:34

would make me a little skeptical if you

26:36

ask me if I had the second taken

26:39

the draft and I mean the quarterback and

26:41

Caleb is not there. I'm a

26:43

hard time say no to Michael panic. Because.

26:47

He made so many big time throws my get a

26:49

she had three terrific receivers and the and it really

26:51

did op and. But. I

26:54

know this about I'm I know he

26:56

has battled through adversity and come to

26:58

the other side. I know he is.

27:00

He. All got an electric arm and he

27:03

is not afraid. you know like I go

27:05

back to sometime. Cam Cameron and once explained

27:07

to me the most I can the Nfl

27:09

and he was I basically standing like almost

27:11

cheek to cheek. a new like this is

27:14

open. And. In in

27:16

College die so wide open. your

27:18

Tim Tebow could get away with

27:21

a lot of stuff. You

27:23

know, because of all those space for you. he

27:25

had worse in the Nfl If you can. She.

27:27

Can really put the ball in there. And

27:30

don't either how great anticipation of see it

27:32

or or or. Religion. Point

27:34

accuracy to go with that arm talent.

27:36

Ah, I'm. As. You can be

27:38

really disappointed and we know tennis can do

27:40

that. To. Me that that was

27:43

there's a lot I would be sold. I'll

27:45

appendix about family to the quarterback that feel

27:47

is Bruce Feldman twitter app Bruce Feldman College

27:49

football all over the athletic great podcast he

27:51

does was Stewart Mandela every week you reference

27:53

now couple times and in animals Everybody has

27:55

read that P Spruce that you wrote and

27:57

it was awesome on Michael Panics and Indiana

27:59

in some of the Struggles you and I

28:01

were in a production meeting room together. You

28:03

and I have talked about this a lot.

28:05

I don't know how much that story really

28:07

is out there. You know you said on

28:10

a couple occasions Now what you love is

28:12

he's overcome. These come from the deepest of

28:14

deaths. I mean I've I've I believe in

28:16

your article you have talked about him even

28:18

like praying and crying, have been on the

28:20

ground like I don't know if I can

28:22

do this. Can you explain? Maybe anecdotally some

28:24

have been some of that's where audience. Yeah

28:27

he he eat out for season ending

28:29

injuries and for a lotta guys especially

28:31

middle of the guys on the outta

28:34

high school which odyssey one or three

28:36

of us was that. Know

28:38

how what happens when you get to see

28:40

what happens when you get adversity? What really

28:43

happens to you? And what amaze

28:45

me lap headaches and I went up

28:47

to Seattle on last year round that

28:49

aside and ended up having a long

28:51

conversation with and it when in a

28:53

direction I did not expected to get

28:55

these very candid. More so

28:57

than almost any other athletes I.

28:59

Can. Remember in college in a while

29:02

and the more I learned about it

29:04

rose the just trying to give me

29:06

a window into where he was. that

29:08

where he is, but where he was

29:11

and how he came through it. And.

29:13

I think that takes an

29:16

incredible amount of resolve and

29:18

mental strength. To.

29:21

Push through it and then I the pushed

29:23

to have had not a barrier. And

29:25

he was so candid about

29:27

it. And. Then bomb.

29:31

You talk to people around the bend Indiana

29:33

where I think. For. Some of them

29:35

and the and harm other people who not

29:37

a the was an inside of it but

29:40

i think for them i think it was

29:42

like man this guy's really struggle with with

29:44

mean with all the medical staff and you

29:46

don't know what's going on and everything in

29:48

that program kind of a splendid it's wield

29:50

after the last. And he

29:52

goes to to Seattle and.

29:55

He just ends up I notice a

29:57

D randoms himself. lot of I just.

30:00

He just keeps growing up and

30:02

maturing and about eighty. And.

30:05

Some of that other stuff like it

30:08

is interesting in get people to really

30:10

open up about their so Easy Emanuel

30:12

the a former first on quarterbacking for

30:14

the state. very bright man. I was

30:16

working on T V I asked him

30:18

jay I was like. Don't. Think

30:20

last night as broad issues for the

30:22

store. Today two months ago was about

30:24

the battling through adversity. The did you

30:26

talk to people who are in the

30:28

Nfl scouting spaces are the biggest reason

30:30

why a quarter of a high level

30:33

quarterbacks in the draft don't work out

30:35

is because they can't handle he was

30:37

he when it hits them and Aj

30:39

said to me those you know and

30:41

I got up and buffalo I had

30:43

like four. Injuries. And

30:45

they were none of them. Words were unaware, said

30:47

they weren't. You know, very serious,

30:49

but he was wide. You start listen

30:51

to a lot of stuff and you

30:54

start. You. Know you start doubting

30:56

yourself and all these other things happen. And

30:58

he was never able to get his Nfl.

31:00

Career really on track after idea

31:02

than answers you're like that is

31:04

a very real thing. And

31:07

most people. And I'm

31:09

talking about like very few people have

31:11

ever been like an Nfl quarterback have

31:13

been a high the offer some picker,

31:15

whatever. There's very few people who know

31:17

what it's like to live in that

31:19

world and have the doubts on Sam

31:21

Donaldson on Monday Night Football. Talk about

31:23

seeing ghosts. Mom, Twitter and

31:25

in a lot of us can

31:28

like will arise or whatever but

31:30

like have you group or you

31:32

bounce back from that it is.

31:34

Yeah it's It's much easier said

31:36

than done. And again I go

31:38

back to Planets. And just

31:40

knowing you a little not I

31:42

the non a little about what

31:44

he's battled below. Bomb.

31:47

Know like I'm a believer in him. I

31:49

am. I get it. he didn't have a

31:51

great game against Michigan. You. Know, but

31:54

somehow Texas and a beating them on like

31:56

the last play in the red zone or

31:58

whatever. It is true and it's time. And

32:00

I'm glad. What? Are you going

32:02

to nitpick? then? What are you gonna let?

32:04

sit around because he was amazing and that

32:07

games are you. The best performance any quarterback

32:09

had played in college football that are. Ah,

32:11

I'm in a big game. killed on

32:14

Sarge Ever been done that in a

32:16

big in a big game like that.

32:18

Now Jake man played and it against

32:20

of that magnitude. So I'm Jane Daniels.

32:22

As good as he was again he

32:24

can start by the was like he

32:26

was in back. You know that kind

32:29

again. Ah I'm so. Peloton,

32:31

Wounded were it's it's you're on an

32:33

impenetrable as great I don't think anyone

32:35

hears from. have you talked about my

32:37

clinics for while? Know our dog lovers

32:40

Helmand and let me kind of shift

32:42

gears know for a moment cause I

32:44

am fascinated by this Super League story.

32:47

and I read the piece in the

32:49

Athletic with a sewer mendell and and

32:51

In or Martian join me last week

32:53

when Broncos out I'm I'm blown away

32:56

by this idea and I know there's

32:58

a lot, owns a lot of obstacles.

33:00

By. Of all the things

33:02

I've heard about to try to bridge the

33:05

gap between the problems with the old system

33:07

and some of the problems with the new

33:09

system, this is the first thing that I

33:12

think actually makes a lot of sense. Do

33:14

you? do you think it's gonna shots? I

33:19

don't have said has no saw. The

33:21

part that I'm skeptical at is that

33:23

people you need to be pushing it.

33:26

Are. The Big Ten

33:28

slashed twenty two Literature: The Fcc Gregg

33:30

said that leisure, and honestly, E S

33:32

P N and to some degree Foxman

33:35

especially E S P N. And.

33:37

I think those are the four

33:40

groups that have, though have. The

33:43

least. To. Gain from it

33:45

that air or are the most.

33:48

Who. Would have to make some sense. Titleholder

33:50

know that some of it by the

33:52

Se see why? Did the Fcc want

33:54

do something very altruistic that's going to

33:57

have. You know, Sort.

33:59

Of. The other teams met a dirty

34:02

other Yeah, universities are better says.

34:04

That. May comedy expands on the bottom

34:06

line and he fcc I get it,

34:08

you know, like the as you seen

34:10

the Big Ten at some point it

34:12

gets. Can you know contracted so much

34:14

to sized The really need somebody to

34:16

do the Washington Generals every week Godfather

34:18

or found themselves. But. I think there

34:21

will be those schools just because they

34:23

won't be making so much money and

34:25

so I don't. I

34:27

don't understand that part of that. How they

34:29

make that work. I get why they're people

34:31

were speaking about us. I. Just

34:33

you it you that the people

34:35

from the former Big East and

34:38

and Andrew Marsh on that. Some

34:40

people utility that on the record

34:42

which was the opera president, some

34:44

from Syracuse and maybe one from

34:46

parents. Must engine? Yeah yeah. So.

34:49

Like they're the ones who are You were kind

34:51

of getting squeezed by where this is are headed.

34:53

Know if you'd asked me, this is kind of

34:56

a little bit of a non sequitur, but if

34:58

you'd asked me, you know the same with the

35:00

A C C and Stanford Macau and S A

35:02

New. I'd. Be like a didn't

35:04

really make much sense to me like yeah

35:06

I get why why they're be a short

35:09

term like yeah let's do this because we

35:11

need a lily pad to land on both.

35:13

Ah, They're not. They're not

35:15

at the top of the food chain. make him a

35:18

decision. And the ones who have a lot of the

35:20

power. I just don't know. How

35:22

you make it and I'm not. I'm not

35:25

a business that odyssey how you make it.attractive

35:27

to grew at or Greg Sargent or need

35:29

a Td to make and Alia will sacrifice.

35:31

What we got to go go back to

35:34

this year the Nfl for I have to

35:36

play Ronan and and that was one of

35:38

the things are gonna jump out to me

35:40

about was that the number two guy the

35:43

Nfl is involved in this project and so

35:45

young we have. you wanted to work. you

35:47

probably need the Nfl to strain on E

35:49

S P N and Fox and the Ramey.

35:51

I need the Nfl. Influence on this so

35:54

was it goes. It's obviously very early and

35:56

I love the prospective. Thank you for spend

35:58

some time with is Bruce. Always good

36:00

to catch up and we'll talk again.

36:04

Or your pleasure guys make sure you

36:06

watch sports games the I do suffer

36:08

spirits even harder to watch the Monument

36:11

for an effect on your best thinkers.

36:13

A breezy about can vary as yep

36:15

he is over the athletic put some

36:18

amazing pieces out there on twitter he

36:20

is so connected in a with him

36:22

gets dead fish malik check and will

36:24

have to mother Mcginn some points but

36:27

may I hate lily pads and I

36:29

just say that decision or or the

36:31

lakes swimming and landscape design of of

36:34

spelling. I'm I love the analogy

36:36

of landing on a lily pad like it's

36:38

really cute word phrase and picture but I

36:40

he'll only person who doesn't other people that

36:42

my class. Not

36:45

to let people like swimming and like circles brought

36:47

people are like swim an absolute sick are not

36:49

one of on hung up no way I is

36:51

Bruce has hi I'm Michael panics as any one

36:54

as we've had on the show right? Yeah.

36:56

I mean I think he does Heard him say

36:58

like okay Kale does one like of I'm A

37:00

to. I'm look at Michael Penance Yeah.

37:03

And. Then number that he ran allowed. I have.

37:05

I have written it down I'd certainly seen on

37:07

my board and I think it's you. Eleven and

37:09

two and fourteen when it's twenty five and three

37:12

and Two years of Washington. With. And

37:14

obviously keen on board. Really good. So good Alabama

37:16

one am obviously rang Reds really good. So good

37:18

at John Side or the Seahawks won that rights.

37:20

Roman do they a damned melanin. Thirteen draft guys

37:22

that know really good but he was the one

37:25

man he was the one. He was the straw

37:27

that stirred that Drayton's and you start to you

37:29

know you put me through that little rapid fire

37:31

that I failed of Logan and us and then

37:33

some point be start walking through like these different

37:35

attributes and U S Bruce a good question like

37:38

okay cut to it your you done this a

37:40

long time You've been around all of this, you're

37:42

connected. He talked to all of these coaches. Scouts

37:44

g players. So what is it? The what?

37:47

what? What? is the thing that you're looking

37:49

for in that quarterback and I think you

37:51

hear him at the end of that say

37:53

i want somebody that's get that grits That's

37:56

that's failed and it's overcome it. It's.

37:59

In an idea you saw Can I don't

38:01

know this on the record? This is just

38:03

my speculation but I bet you and you

38:05

see go back to read that peace and

38:07

have you read that a couple months ago

38:09

on panics it was is Bruce said man

38:11

it was transparent he didn't doc he didn't

38:13

like yeah at you know I got it

38:15

now cause the Nfl and and be Mr

38:17

Tough guy and I bet you panics his

38:20

agent was even like i don't ask among

38:22

all that out because it's gonna be some

38:24

they're like move man he was a real

38:26

sensitive soul. But. He came out of

38:28

it. And he came out of

38:30

that he bought himself out together with the

38:32

ear. Some of the sensitivity at the end

38:34

of a couple other of the games as

38:36

bad as yeah they they very well may

38:39

in that very well may be a questions

38:41

you know but I don't. I think their

38:43

sons be said about those two guys, his

38:45

last names and an ex in Nixon panics

38:47

that both overcame a lot of adversity in

38:49

Oboe Next basically ran out of the planes

38:52

of Alabama and had to go out west

38:54

and reinvent himself. Michael Panic Sewers broken and

38:56

in like Humpty Dumpty had a put himself

38:58

back together. In Western Washington. In reinvent

39:00

himself. He didn't say it, I will. He

39:03

had to reinvent himself and reinvigorate his entire

39:05

career because it was on the brink of

39:07

being done. In when you've been

39:09

in that position is Nixon panics were I

39:11

they get released him in college and hopefully

39:13

they can play with that same kind of

39:15

freedom at the Nfl level and stuff that.

39:17

I wonder? I don't think that these

39:20

as being slightly. Older at twenty four

39:22

than what Mccarthy's like. twenty. One another. That's

39:24

necessarily a bad thing. Quarterbacks are playing longer

39:26

these days, and you get guys that have

39:28

been through a little. More in Namibia little

39:30

armchair. Yeah I mean what When Mccarthy lose

39:32

one game last couple years, one game and

39:34

high school? you know can a bachelor trade

39:37

Lance are now it's missing and it's and

39:39

Armor Expectations National championships. It's not you know

39:41

in Fargo, North Dakota but that will be

39:44

something that he's going to. he's going to

39:46

deal with in a way that panics a

39:48

bow. Certainly have already through that. My concerns

39:50

are a good stuff. Good conversation. thanks to

39:53

Bruce for spin little time with us, Brock

39:55

and are going to draft profile common up

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and then or thirty five. Minutes from now.

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to impress us The judges here are going

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to be making a decision on who wins

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