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This season Brock and saw
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your the and Mark Matt
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martyrs I'm sorry about just
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like my blog. Seattle Sports
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Howard. Through the Alaska Airlines
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Studio your. Deck good job.
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Kept their in the park and
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presented by Simply Seattle Now hear your
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hosts Rocky, Weird and My Song. Segments
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here. Brock as we have
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lost a staple in the
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Seattle sports community. It's
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been. Fifteen
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years since we first
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saw. The
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basketball hoop put up there at the V.
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Mack in the team meeting room. And
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now it's gone. We
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wondered how Mike Macdonald. Would
0:50
handle. Such
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a mainstay in the community.
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The Seahawks community and away.
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or at least in that
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room. It was so connected
1:01
to his predecessor, Pete Carroll.
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Harpy. Part
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of the definition of that building. For
1:09
nearly a decade and a half life.
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And as Tyler Lockett told us yesterday,
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Is gone has been three
1:19
days. You know the biggest
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differences. know best. So.
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Those. The on an indoor unless they take
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it out. A old hard to say
1:29
goodbye Brock as you know. It's
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Rim Net. Back.
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Board that past while Who could talk? Actually
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this asked about who could talk to be
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honest and idea that think these things.
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The privy to some if screw
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top story interests. Sure. So
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it's gone. The basketball hoop is
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no more. What?
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Should replace it and I think that's a
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that's the question Just announced yesterday Smurf just
2:03
was even before we get oh you're still
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are I peeing and I am as a
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sign of that. see our communities and agree
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to do think they had to like. Really?
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Take that thing apart to the one in the
2:15
indoor is just keeping. Go get that one. It's
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a dick. Sporting goods he rolled out thing in
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you fill it with say underwater he a lot
2:21
of things he into the middle the night sprite
2:23
that he just success elephant in the great seemingly
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coffee months after after was bolted he was a
2:28
real basketball me you think they had to scrap
2:30
it like there's no way that you could just
2:32
put that some are also give away and right
2:34
at the life that that thing provided was it
2:37
ended up I did. Will somebody got it they
2:39
don't even know. Hey Pete probably shifted to the
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North Shore. Hawaiian is hanging out. Soon started
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a day or so what should replace
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Adjusted what we are what are some
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ideas. what could do? What could be
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there in Mad T meeting room so
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they could still have on a what
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better place to put a side by
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side race car driving machine or two
2:57
layers. Next some sellers settle in are
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you have an in like arcade setting
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or the jet ski, one of the
3:04
motorcycle or whatever. Or. Thing
3:06
I have any other. our kids dance dance
3:08
revolution via did one reason to dance dance
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revolution people really fired upon that I have
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a about a sportswriter to be a sport.
3:15
It's gotta be something else that elicits com
3:17
crash and so on August so they can
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give him my tether ball. yeah pointed has
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around your arm up in it on somebody
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said a block yes us how intense that
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would get that Plus I mean they would
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need a bunch of extra tether balls recess
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and and you put a foursquare court next
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to a do for some wrong games of
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those words that are forcing as aren't ah
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many or use of long and slow this
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war mind game. Like. Shuffleboard them
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a taste more delicate, the more
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of a touch. Ah, or like
3:46
us, maybe skee ball take in
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touch? And. Know they'll It's gets gotta
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be something delicious. Competition doesn't need to bring the
3:53
spirit back to what the hoop represent. To
3:55
just be like a leisure side thing of sodomy.
3:58
Firing. Shuffleboard. Ah, Didn't.
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I didn't quite have that. I have the firebombing
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the front and was simply board. Is it Remy?
4:05
Now are you talking about the shuffle board tables?
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Are you talking about the shuffle board like on
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the ground with the yeah with like this as
4:11
geared towards I curling did the new ones that
4:13
are like her or with with the parks okay
4:16
that one's a little bit more yeah with the
4:18
Sam themselves. lot of that. There's a bit more
4:20
intense in again and I think you can't remember
4:22
him. As. A wieners the hangars.
4:24
Moroccan Thanksgiving Skee ball. Of. Most
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common sense given us are yes keep
4:28
looking and interest on like into what
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about outside the box lot of her
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Positively build their own Emmy Money's no
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issue rather than plenty of money down
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the work they built their own big
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game hunter are Bbh bill parallel putting
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out like a Bengal you had a
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lie union or am yet a Cardinal
4:45
my kids played began on idea for
4:47
your high you know the other. Seems
4:49
like it sounds like the beginning of
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our goodbyes the last Boy Scout. A
4:53
little problematic but I do like the
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idea of. Yeah of those
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games via. Wasn't on what's the
5:00
golf game that they have an all the bars
5:02
or in the winter fall goons. Essentially that might
5:04
be a problem for the guys on hand. So
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I get you don't need anybody hurting their i
5:08
now than t related injury and keep somebody on
5:10
the approve of the injury you know what? So
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you are on this honest I think before anybody
5:14
else I think that they got even worse and
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I had Bs and it was first question on
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your notes that they did. We asked did you
5:20
ask my quick donna when we sat down the
5:23
essence of it you did right? yes and he
5:25
was a scam like well you know we'll see
5:27
the get There was no way that who posting.
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And there was no way. I wouldn't say
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because it's freedom to put fanatic whatever live
5:33
with it was ill the essence of competition
5:36
and it was in. I bet you there
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are hoops in other team rooms around the
5:40
league or if not in the league certainly
5:42
room college where you're just trying to innovate
5:44
you trying to adapt to trying to do
5:47
with Pete did for so long here and
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that sustains us competitive excellence you know and
5:51
getting people out of their comfort zone As
5:53
really what it was like yeah you know
5:56
you take competitors and certainly some guys are
5:58
could super. You can do it. You're going to good. Do for
6:00
everybody and are going to compete on
6:02
a Carefree? Got a terrible shoddy guess?
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you'd underhanded like Rick Barry are you
6:06
going to get up there and you're
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going to compete? So it's like hundred
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thousand lot of our thousand and over
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the top arm wrestling, same house lot
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of people, same air hockey and probably
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minimal. again thought Iraq is probably the
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most common taxes or any a jam
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or don't like whoever fumbles has to
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go sit madame tank or something and
6:24
him then throw things out and ah
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how many giants last car race track
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you really slot cars as again. And
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know there are other terrible It's like on a
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track you build a whole race traveling and little
6:35
hands. controller of all hands are you at and
6:37
and they'd be the cars would run in that
6:40
little slot. what about the the punch out one
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or sees you as the put the number of
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how hard you hit the bow yeah pretty broken
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hands and up on that. but indian a princely.
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Are I'd fall, say goodbye or ip
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in the yard to the a basketball
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hoop. That was such a big go
6:56
to the community over there for Sony
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Ericsson. That mouse it has no more
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health now Sold! Off of.
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Like the idea of them like selling
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it on craigslist or hundred number to
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raise my something else? maybe of of.
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Okay, Ah, I'm Bruce Feldman going to join
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his and twenty marry Okay machine Now Bruce.
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I'm going to join us and twenty he's
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got new mock draft out. His was join
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us yesterday and we got our wires crossed
7:23
Swords ought to Bruce coming up here in
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a bit. After everything you need to know
7:28
including it's a big win yesterday for your
7:30
Seattle Mariners. Had they. Get it done some
7:32
of the old fashioned way next of Rapunzel.
7:37
Need to know. Minutes
7:39
test every hour with
7:41
Sox. Here's what you need
7:43
to know. What
7:45
game for the Mariners yesterday? They needed
7:48
it. they needed a when on the
7:50
road before coming home us and he
7:52
needed a couple of plays to get
7:54
it done. Started with Jorge Poem co
7:56
who sent them to extra innings with
7:58
a really nice over the shoulder the
8:00
Caspian Sea sickly short right feel the
8:02
given some of the defense of struggles
8:04
he's had to start this curve this
8:06
season they needed and then it was
8:09
Tower Ali in the for hims. If
8:11
it's the town's he swings it suits
8:13
this the battle right field still see
8:15
strike against. Go
8:25
ahead of vanished Rod
8:27
Hall, Ron and. Ammo
8:30
matters are and fraud Three, you know
8:32
why did actress so shame on me?
8:34
Because obviously those two moments are going
8:36
to stand out from the same rock
8:38
and a man with a seat and
8:40
of scoring six runs for the first
8:42
time is is great. He needed. With
8:46
this moment overstep the he goes seven
8:48
and two thirds dominant innings only allows
8:50
one run on the say home run
8:52
this afterwards he was he was happy
8:55
Yeah the one in the law than
8:57
how we did it too because it's.
9:00
Kind of the identity we've had for a
9:02
few years now does as the games and
9:04
put back are lame attempt there and. Needing
9:06
a when and and doing it and that
9:09
kind of thousands of lot about the team
9:11
on and fell out of the bullpen to
9:13
munoz what he did for me Conan and
9:15
of expire. On the help out
9:17
of town and and Santa Cruz well. Seven.
9:21
And two thirds a key is just
9:23
one marks or mail through three starts,
9:25
twenty three strikeouts for three walks. My.
9:28
Guys command right now. He's always had good
9:30
command but it feels like it's getting to
9:32
that next level with comey goodness. Had a
9:34
people sit down on people and yeah it's
9:36
a guy everyone, a map all was off
9:39
the bat there in the bottom of the
9:41
night. didn't think we were going to get
9:43
us. not. To
9:45
the good will.far right, very real years.
9:48
Me like is that the hit It's
9:50
gonna win this game for this him
9:52
and instead I target good plays not
9:54
point. It wasn't like an exceptional play
9:57
play and are needed in a very
9:59
big. Body language they really really
10:01
needed. So a nice when for the
10:03
Mariners yesterday. They come home only two
10:05
and a half game that of the
10:08
division lead with only hundred and forty
10:10
nine to play as Bryce Miller. Will
10:12
go tomorrow. Pubs are seven and five.
10:18
You. Need to sell the outside their opportunity
10:21
Us It's sad little bit with the media
10:23
yesterday really for the first time since the
10:25
coaching change we heard from the leaders Geno
10:27
Smith understandably affected by that day at they
10:29
are as they are probably remember forever since
10:32
the cover how things have a for me
10:34
here obviously know cause Carol are big and
10:36
forth on my career or help me out
10:38
of was when I came from the organization
10:40
in or really no help me both mean
10:43
for the follow them on the now and
10:45
so ah for me was kind of well
10:47
as a terrible moment nausea. Someone that I
10:49
love so much. No. I haven't part
10:51
ways with him but you know that the
10:53
within a full of where they go and
10:55
are very sided know for for we either
10:57
Now. Or. Just Director as died. Really
11:00
wonder what that was like for him in
11:02
particular right? Because not only does I'm sure
11:04
he feel for P Than and have a
11:06
level of loyalty for a guy that absolutely
11:08
changed his life of an area of right
11:11
back from I know think our fragile his
11:13
career was right. May was looking to go
11:15
to the Cfl he was he was done
11:17
yeah and then empower them and Pete believed
11:19
in him and yeah I mean peace peace
11:22
gonna go down and are some fun to
11:24
move zone yesterday for brown was and it's
11:26
are talking about the Elmo Be in a.
11:28
Ferocious defense and everything they did in that
11:30
Rona for five years that defensively was as
11:32
good as any in the history of the
11:35
Nfl. That is where people be remembered for
11:37
the really those. The byline to it should
11:39
be what he did with rice and what
11:41
he did would genome was pretty darn. Very
11:43
erratic behavior Gino. In that moment I got
11:45
to imagine not only was he thinking i
11:47
feel bad for the sky his thinking is
11:50
my career talks like a my outta here
11:52
and this was my guy. This was the
11:54
person who wanted me most in this organization
11:56
and now he's no longer gonna be here.
11:58
So or he does. That his communication
12:00
with Mike Mcdonalds been pretty good from the
12:02
bay or for some your heart or we're on
12:05
phone talking and texting and and great communication
12:07
I think that's something that are he wants and
12:09
I think we'll do a great job that
12:11
is always know communicate with one another and of
12:13
you know from what I've seen so far man
12:15
he's got to visit He's got a plan. Or
12:18
he already laid it out for the team and
12:20
it's our job or to help him and his
12:22
job to help us get there. And so all
12:24
right now we're just like us. in the beginning
12:26
stages of all this. Ah, But you know
12:28
he, he's who played on last year with Ravens
12:31
man you to tell how his team worked in
12:33
is how good they were as deep as last
12:35
year, how they excelled at a distance herself or
12:37
we know the type scheme that he has. When.
12:39
Also the top leadership that he brings with have
12:42
a man that he is an overall just been
12:44
a great coach in or something in the forties.
12:47
Trying. It on on a piece revised to do not. Keep.
12:50
Your shirt off. I'm
12:52
excuse me Sir Francis no room yesterday
12:54
not my shirt are at play the
12:56
next I just want and now they
12:59
can take a shirt hard. You
13:02
to know. Why?
13:06
My. Mom
13:10
and is fine, but you're not paying
13:12
like network housebound. Would he be them
13:14
that is? Find that guy. Ah, Masters
13:16
underway. Ah was seen a couple guys
13:18
have one under and the people who
13:21
are farthest have made it through my
13:23
free whole self. Nothing are particularly interesting
13:25
going on there yet. over Danny Willett
13:27
former Masters champ. After the Jordan calamity,
13:29
it'll Danny was little Danny Willett. Yup.
13:31
After the Jordan collapse, he's one under
13:34
through one. Ah I'm news coming out
13:36
earlier this morning. O J. Simpson has
13:38
died at the age of seventy six.
13:40
I did not know he had cancer
13:42
and I'm not really but we're adding
13:45
that time he was Young Outcomes Cancer
13:47
Office today or yesterday. but Oj Simpson
13:49
is no more and I we've or
13:51
spent some time talking about this story
13:53
u dub very serious story was time
13:56
with that type of Rodgers running back
13:58
who's been charged with to. Second
14:00
and third degree rape and two separate incidents
14:02
have to separate women nineteen and twenty two
14:04
years old. Both took place at their homes
14:07
after connecting with them on dating sites or
14:09
and read through the story mode and on
14:11
my I saw farm and it is not.
14:14
It is disgusting, is really hard to read,
14:16
it is absolutely gross or and one I
14:18
guess last to remove some what's going on
14:20
in the sports world now. thirty six of
14:23
the forty treatment for games probably can be
14:25
forty forty or maybe animal Four of them
14:27
are already bought by Apple or something else.
14:30
Can be on national platform with thirty six
14:32
to forty games for Caitlin Clark. Gonna be
14:34
on national television? Cbs and broker in a
14:36
new deal with a W M B A.
14:38
You create that kind of hysteria you bring
14:40
in those kind a number salt of these
14:42
Tv executives notice and we are going see
14:44
a lotta Miss Clark on national television. Call
14:46
our I. That is everything you need to
14:48
know. quarter past every hour here on the
14:51
broken sort of. I should point out one
14:53
other thing so person's going to join us
14:55
in a moment. For we do that, I
14:57
should tell the people. Were. Known old school today
14:59
brought. Some. We haven't done
15:01
in ages. When's. The last
15:04
time we had a good old sounds
15:06
getting off on did he do it
15:08
without me? When you were single often
15:10
some. To. The Max song so ever
15:12
do I don't believe so no I don't
15:14
think it. I don't think we ever did.
15:16
so it's they do. remember the guy getting
15:18
on the hood of the car on four
15:20
or five yes that have of the the hi
15:22
I'm in I was one of the great
15:24
moments of things. we the people sing guns
15:26
and roses. I think we have people think
15:28
kid rock for tickets like we don't a
15:30
lot of us over the years. Saturday at nine
15:33
thirty we have tickets for tickets. To.
15:35
See: Def Leppard and Journey with
15:37
Steve Miller Mans. At. T Mobile,
15:39
The Sir September. And we're going
15:41
to give away a four pack of tickets. To
15:44
somebody who's willing to saying so. This
15:46
is not Metallic and Twenty Twenty Nine
15:48
know didn't know someone up this this
15:50
home visits September In September this is
15:52
a lot of summer ads. Earth as
15:54
a sad sad T Mobile. Yeah,
15:57
Def Leppard! So we have a selection of
15:59
Def Leppard songs. The selection of Juri you're
16:01
going and if you wanted advice also go with
16:03
your. you can only see that the for has
16:05
been Def Leppard twice. I've never seen Journey have
16:07
seen Def Leppard twice. They were phenomenal both times.
16:10
See. None of my months. I
16:12
wouldn't say they're my favorite band
16:14
necessarily of that era, but I
16:16
could not believe how good they
16:18
sounded. Full. Of in
16:20
the when you start going through other songs like on
16:22
all the worst to all of the right. Yeah I
16:24
heard of Water Atlases a more catalog is ridiculous you
16:26
in this day and age people will still do it.
16:28
Still seeing Vegas have the guts to do it in
16:31
their office to good question start thinking now is your
16:33
i never got that a challenge more a to erase
16:35
these people that are of the god I think that's
16:37
less than. One of the Southern Alps how shall
16:39
we ask people to? seeing. Mom are we
16:41
allowed them for a million a month on. Want
16:43
people to? That's true. Yeah, some people saying that
16:45
so I would assume the still some folks out
16:47
there that are willing to do is start thinking
16:49
now, Nine Thirty will do it. Eight Six Six
16:51
Nine Seven Nine Three Seven Seven Six If you
16:54
need to write down that number if you want
16:56
to try to win these the tickets The Def
16:58
Leppard and Journey Eight Six Six Months of a
17:00
Nine Three Seven Seven Six. Be prepared. know what
17:02
you're gonna sing. We've got a selection of songs
17:04
for Yeah and will do that. Someone up about
17:06
an hour from now coming up. Next though the
17:08
sought to Bruce Feldman, he's got a mock draft.
17:10
With a very familiar name and number sixty and
17:12
that's why does everybody have the same name? We
17:14
gotta ask a man and more next. This
17:19
is broth and sark. Powered
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through the Alaska Airlines julio.
17:25
Seattle the most. Points.
17:29
Behind the text messages coming in at
17:32
the moment with the i could go
17:34
the resonance hate mongering Journey that much
17:36
Ah thought you did a Journey sing
17:38
off before Thousand one. a guy totally
17:40
shocked after claiming he did Journey have
17:42
a time a karaoke on remember last
17:44
through maybe we did. Ah I'll sing
17:47
my bought off from Carter in Tacoma.
17:49
Def Leppard My favorite band. I've seen
17:51
them a couple times and never seen Journey
17:53
and I sing karaoke or will get ready
17:55
to find the right now I'm traveling around
17:57
I think when we did karaoke one night.
18:00
The Joe Davis did Neil Diamond ahead.
18:02
Bruce did Journey Don't Stop Believing See
18:04
Perry? I think he went up there.
18:06
Ah yeah, that's Hexham. that's not gonna
18:09
lie as I take. so you better
18:11
you better really believe in yourself to
18:13
work to try to hit that song
18:15
by yourself. are Bruce Feldman joins us
18:18
right now. it's getting too serious business.
18:20
Talk about the draft. Two weeks from
18:22
today. Bruce, Good morning hours sir. I'm.
18:25
Doing well you know it takes a serious doubts
18:27
rocket try to ask Bob Stoops just one more
18:29
question in the middle of it in. Such
18:33
as adults are you like that and the
18:35
opening my eyes you I believe. I love
18:38
that I was. I have version that like
18:40
man it's a good thing that's not our
18:42
wedding arm and a black ball game or
18:44
whatever to have their culture. What happened is
18:46
that ah ah what you know we push
18:48
the envelope at the you Fl socket. yeah
18:51
we get access down there. And and like
18:53
Bruce who unfortunately when you're sideline reporter in
18:55
college. Or the Nfl your concordance one area I
18:57
get to just hang out. the guys on talking
18:59
and to bomb and I said hey reminds you
19:02
know live on tv if we can abuse talk
19:04
to you what you senior so sweet into play
19:06
and a good a second play by the third
19:08
one is like okay I got to go coach
19:10
I've done with this nonsense. How far. Down
19:13
some A forgive me for good television
19:15
news been part of Yep. That's
19:18
what happened cc Zoc. Bruce watches is
19:20
a friend. He watches the you Fl.
19:22
that does take a friend. yes it
19:24
does. He realize I've used as magic.
19:27
I would their money that I'm a Bigger Blocks lives
19:29
and and some of the people who last name or
19:31
keyword who that the house with them or an Alpine
19:33
out of sorts of what I mean if you're launching
19:35
those your home games you must have. That
19:38
are really really impressive. Friendship right there. Sought
19:40
to me. Two weeks from today. Breezy, two
19:42
weeks from today. This draft. Every one of
19:44
them unique. Every one of them different can
19:46
like your own kids. Every one of them
19:48
is just their own. The marches of their
19:50
own be. Where does this draft in? your
19:52
I said. I
19:55
think it's a really good draft. It's
19:57
a to me as a great drops
19:59
or receivers. I
20:01
did goods adding years for that
20:03
are that are really elite. Ninety
20:05
Two Tabby, another eight or nine
20:07
that I think will be big
20:09
time contributors in the Nfl. Pretty
20:11
pretty quick. Ah, I think there's
20:13
a there's a great offensive tackle
20:15
in some then some really good
20:17
offensive linemen in the draft. And.
20:19
Then the cornerback part of this there's obviously
20:21
going to probably be. I think though, there
20:23
may be six the go in the first
20:25
round, and I think they're probably five that
20:27
ago in the first. as team. By.
20:30
Do. You know the track record New not
20:33
talk about this a lot offline. Know it's
20:35
hard to tell you know depending on what
20:37
did they go into. Who's. Gonna
20:39
disappoint and how they're gonna react
20:41
to adversity, but it's not that
20:43
usually tell the tale of okay
20:45
out of the quarterbacks pan out
20:47
but I think it's a really
20:49
good draft. You fit into a
20:51
large category of people that have
20:53
the Seahawks taking. Try Catano a
20:55
number sixteen. What? What leads you
20:57
to that? heck. Are
21:00
you need help up upfront there? I
21:02
mean there's a need. obviously you have
21:05
to my yard. He would grab the
21:07
in the officer coordinator that he knows
21:09
he. I think there's to truly elite
21:11
offensive lineman coming out of the Pac
21:14
twelve. The sure in out of the
21:16
the Civic North last two. Aga is
21:18
a guy everybody raves about and for
21:20
Palmer is very similar armed. In terms
21:23
of that I mean he he I
21:25
just stayed. Know I I
21:27
thought he was a dominant offensive lineman. Don't
21:29
ask them to do some different things and
21:32
maybe it wasn't like he was. He.
21:34
Was plan and a big ten. Ah, science.
21:36
You But I say that.
21:40
If. He still there and I think he probably
21:42
will still be there but if you still there
21:44
are they don't be a terrific fits all of
21:46
this. What the Seahawks mean, What they're getting. Just
21:48
in terms of you know this is a. In
21:51
on there's definitely. Some. Some know
21:54
the depths and shoes apartments also that
21:56
I think you. Could. Play tap
21:58
to play guard as. Well. Then.
22:00
I do that also could help out
22:03
the short term. You know I'm look
22:05
to your twitter ends. Polarizing. Polarized.
22:08
Polarized in I get in your just quoting
22:10
so many of these different scouts, an analyst
22:12
and coaches that you are network to Bruce
22:14
And it wasn't just about Michael panics and
22:17
isn't just about shit Drake mates. I think
22:19
a lot of these Qbs are polarizing. Is
22:21
this about as Polarize in a group? so
22:23
can we do the rapid fire? The turned
22:25
into a slow death crawl because I was
22:28
just thinking through every one of his questions.
22:30
For me, is this is polarizing? Hq be
22:32
class the sexes you can remember. Things
22:35
are starting to come on. His cousin
22:38
is not what you know as Andrew
22:40
Luck. I guess that you can go
22:42
nitpick about the quarter that one or
22:44
another, but you have to popular Caleb
22:46
who does some amazing stuff. But man,
22:48
hold onto the ball our time. And
22:50
and t how long could you get
22:52
away with that? Yeah, that's how. You're
22:56
living that way. Largest I do it
22:58
at a case of a living that
23:00
way. Then you have. You. Know
23:02
Jane Day or Soo Do add a
23:04
phenomenal year and kept getting better and
23:06
better. Ah, I'm Anna, I thought you
23:09
know your keys to better the two
23:11
first round to probably top fifteen receivers
23:13
that he had, but he played in
23:15
the Fcc and more the dynamic of
23:17
Honor and gotten that so much better
23:19
as a passer. By you
23:22
know I I think there's. There's. A
23:24
lot to like thereby the there's A, There's
23:26
a little bit hesitation on okay are we
23:28
see and everything here with him and then
23:30
and is also not the biggest guys like
23:32
is taller, the cattle wire a and how
23:34
old were you hold up Then there's Drake
23:36
May who. From. The coaches I talked
23:38
to face them directly with action and most
23:40
polarizing of the of the quarterbacks. I didn't
23:43
panic since the most polarizing if you ask
23:45
draft Twitter That. But. If you
23:47
ask such as your face them the people
23:49
people I can't allow by products his arm
23:51
talent. it wasn't a dink and dunk off
23:53
lands. Now we talked about this a lot.
23:55
he is battle to real adversity come to
23:57
the other side to the team that was.
24:00
We're in a with largely the same last
24:02
year and they went twenty five and two.
24:04
We. Know I am a believer
24:06
in panic. Drake made a part that gives
24:08
some people pause. You can throw the heck
24:10
out of it. Got really good size and
24:13
athletic. But. Unlike
24:15
most elite as and distracting transferred except
24:17
for him and Jj Mccarthy. Farm.
24:20
Eat as you played into system go also
24:22
eating transfer but they went from a version
24:24
of the air raids are white November of
24:26
last year olds are plenty and their guys
24:28
I talked to lovers talent but also like
24:31
man when we played on the body get
24:33
really scared and the pocket and he wasn't
24:35
the same the i didn't have the same
24:37
feel for that sam our demands on the
24:39
better but. Ah, So the
24:41
first minister jim because you didn't put up big
24:43
staff and that an ass in the thrown all
24:45
over the place. But. He won. it's on
24:47
a games he can tell really well on the run.
24:50
And. Is a dynamic athlete and
24:52
varies a lot of stuff. People really like
24:54
him. When they meet with him they get
24:56
wow Buys the by the Jim Harbaugh. Trains.
24:59
Him to do stuff that probably honestly you're
25:01
trying to do as a that at all
25:03
die. Young. Couple. Of decades
25:06
known as an assault on she's really like
25:08
to read your had that would your much
25:10
it would Jim Harbaugh if you are if
25:12
you were looking for quarterback an animal in
25:15
the Seahawks are these the seem not to
25:17
be and that seems to be why they
25:19
traded for same how own gone now in
25:21
a different direction with quarterbacks are just so
25:24
fascinating specially in this group. Is there one
25:26
treat the you look at and say either
25:28
this is something you have to have or
25:30
this is the one treat that scares me
25:33
is it with we've seen so many quarterbacks.
25:35
Boston at that rate is so challenging over
25:37
the years. Is there any thread the you've
25:39
ever iraq kind of fucked up on. Na.
25:43
I lose a couple things. It's
25:45
like how. Savvy.
25:47
Are they in July when they see
25:50
and process information? And he has
25:52
a big saying. I mean I was around job
25:54
or a lot his last year at Dulles you
25:56
those early blown away by user their clothes on
25:58
the field. Now it's a man. And everything
26:00
else. Bomb. For me, that's a
26:02
huge staying. In a mostly you
26:05
guys have of a nuff arm. To.
26:08
To be very good at or underwriter
26:10
system. Are you know whether a D
26:12
or you don't need John Milton? his arm. To
26:14
be to be a really successful
26:16
Nfl quarterback. On adding to challenge
26:19
for some of the other one's life by
26:21
of the first second draft to be hard
26:23
not to roll the dice Son Caleb. By.
26:28
Are you know. Your
26:30
stuff And stuff that would give you pause about him
26:32
Now. N N. that
26:34
would make me a little skeptical if you
26:36
ask me if I had the second taken
26:39
the draft and I mean the quarterback and
26:41
Caleb is not there. I'm a
26:43
hard time say no to Michael panic. Because.
26:47
He made so many big time throws my get a
26:49
she had three terrific receivers and the and it really
26:51
did op and. But. I
26:54
know this about I'm I know he
26:56
has battled through adversity and come to
26:58
the other side. I know he is.
27:00
He. All got an electric arm and he
27:03
is not afraid. you know like I go
27:05
back to sometime. Cam Cameron and once explained
27:07
to me the most I can the Nfl
27:09
and he was I basically standing like almost
27:11
cheek to cheek. a new like this is
27:14
open. And. In in
27:16
College die so wide open. your
27:18
Tim Tebow could get away with
27:21
a lot of stuff. You
27:23
know, because of all those space for you. he
27:25
had worse in the Nfl If you can. She.
27:27
Can really put the ball in there. And
27:30
don't either how great anticipation of see it
27:32
or or or. Religion. Point
27:34
accuracy to go with that arm talent.
27:36
Ah, I'm. As. You can be
27:38
really disappointed and we know tennis can do
27:40
that. To. Me that that was
27:43
there's a lot I would be sold. I'll
27:45
appendix about family to the quarterback that feel
27:47
is Bruce Feldman twitter app Bruce Feldman College
27:49
football all over the athletic great podcast he
27:51
does was Stewart Mandela every week you reference
27:53
now couple times and in animals Everybody has
27:55
read that P Spruce that you wrote and
27:57
it was awesome on Michael Panics and Indiana
27:59
in some of the Struggles you and I
28:01
were in a production meeting room together. You
28:03
and I have talked about this a lot.
28:05
I don't know how much that story really
28:07
is out there. You know you said on
28:10
a couple occasions Now what you love is
28:12
he's overcome. These come from the deepest of
28:14
deaths. I mean I've I've I believe in
28:16
your article you have talked about him even
28:18
like praying and crying, have been on the
28:20
ground like I don't know if I can
28:22
do this. Can you explain? Maybe anecdotally some
28:24
have been some of that's where audience. Yeah
28:27
he he eat out for season ending
28:29
injuries and for a lotta guys especially
28:31
middle of the guys on the outta
28:34
high school which odyssey one or three
28:36
of us was that. Know
28:38
how what happens when you get to see
28:40
what happens when you get adversity? What really
28:43
happens to you? And what amaze
28:45
me lap headaches and I went up
28:47
to Seattle on last year round that
28:49
aside and ended up having a long
28:51
conversation with and it when in a
28:53
direction I did not expected to get
28:55
these very candid. More so
28:57
than almost any other athletes I.
28:59
Can. Remember in college in a while
29:02
and the more I learned about it
29:04
rose the just trying to give me
29:06
a window into where he was. that
29:08
where he is, but where he was
29:11
and how he came through it. And.
29:13
I think that takes an
29:16
incredible amount of resolve and
29:18
mental strength. To.
29:21
Push through it and then I the pushed
29:23
to have had not a barrier. And
29:25
he was so candid about
29:27
it. And. Then bomb.
29:31
You talk to people around the bend Indiana
29:33
where I think. For. Some of them
29:35
and the and harm other people who not
29:37
a the was an inside of it but
29:40
i think for them i think it was
29:42
like man this guy's really struggle with with
29:44
mean with all the medical staff and you
29:46
don't know what's going on and everything in
29:48
that program kind of a splendid it's wield
29:50
after the last. And he
29:52
goes to to Seattle and.
29:55
He just ends up I notice a
29:57
D randoms himself. lot of I just.
30:00
He just keeps growing up and
30:02
maturing and about eighty. And.
30:05
Some of that other stuff like it
30:08
is interesting in get people to really
30:10
open up about their so Easy Emanuel
30:12
the a former first on quarterbacking for
30:14
the state. very bright man. I was
30:16
working on T V I asked him
30:18
jay I was like. Don't. Think
30:20
last night as broad issues for the
30:22
store. Today two months ago was about
30:24
the battling through adversity. The did you
30:26
talk to people who are in the
30:28
Nfl scouting spaces are the biggest reason
30:30
why a quarter of a high level
30:33
quarterbacks in the draft don't work out
30:35
is because they can't handle he was
30:37
he when it hits them and Aj
30:39
said to me those you know and
30:41
I got up and buffalo I had
30:43
like four. Injuries. And
30:45
they were none of them. Words were unaware, said
30:47
they weren't. You know, very serious,
30:49
but he was wide. You start listen
30:51
to a lot of stuff and you
30:54
start. You. Know you start doubting
30:56
yourself and all these other things happen. And
30:58
he was never able to get his Nfl.
31:00
Career really on track after idea
31:02
than answers you're like that is
31:04
a very real thing. And
31:07
most people. And I'm
31:09
talking about like very few people have
31:11
ever been like an Nfl quarterback have
31:13
been a high the offer some picker,
31:15
whatever. There's very few people who know
31:17
what it's like to live in that
31:19
world and have the doubts on Sam
31:21
Donaldson on Monday Night Football. Talk about
31:23
seeing ghosts. Mom, Twitter and
31:25
in a lot of us can
31:28
like will arise or whatever but
31:30
like have you group or you
31:32
bounce back from that it is.
31:34
Yeah it's It's much easier said
31:36
than done. And again I go
31:38
back to Planets. And just
31:40
knowing you a little not I
31:42
the non a little about what
31:44
he's battled below. Bomb.
31:47
Know like I'm a believer in him. I
31:49
am. I get it. he didn't have a
31:51
great game against Michigan. You. Know, but
31:54
somehow Texas and a beating them on like
31:56
the last play in the red zone or
31:58
whatever. It is true and it's time. And
32:00
I'm glad. What? Are you going
32:02
to nitpick? then? What are you gonna let?
32:04
sit around because he was amazing and that
32:07
games are you. The best performance any quarterback
32:09
had played in college football that are. Ah,
32:11
I'm in a big game. killed on
32:14
Sarge Ever been done that in a
32:16
big in a big game like that.
32:18
Now Jake man played and it against
32:20
of that magnitude. So I'm Jane Daniels.
32:22
As good as he was again he
32:24
can start by the was like he
32:26
was in back. You know that kind
32:29
again. Ah I'm so. Peloton,
32:31
Wounded were it's it's you're on an
32:33
impenetrable as great I don't think anyone
32:35
hears from. have you talked about my
32:37
clinics for while? Know our dog lovers
32:40
Helmand and let me kind of shift
32:42
gears know for a moment cause I
32:44
am fascinated by this Super League story.
32:47
and I read the piece in the
32:49
Athletic with a sewer mendell and and
32:51
In or Martian join me last week
32:53
when Broncos out I'm I'm blown away
32:56
by this idea and I know there's
32:58
a lot, owns a lot of obstacles.
33:00
By. Of all the things
33:02
I've heard about to try to bridge the
33:05
gap between the problems with the old system
33:07
and some of the problems with the new
33:09
system, this is the first thing that I
33:12
think actually makes a lot of sense. Do
33:14
you? do you think it's gonna shots? I
33:19
don't have said has no saw. The
33:21
part that I'm skeptical at is that
33:23
people you need to be pushing it.
33:26
Are. The Big Ten
33:28
slashed twenty two Literature: The Fcc Gregg
33:30
said that leisure, and honestly, E S
33:32
P N and to some degree Foxman
33:35
especially E S P N. And.
33:37
I think those are the four
33:40
groups that have, though have. The
33:43
least. To. Gain from it
33:45
that air or are the most.
33:48
Who. Would have to make some sense. Titleholder
33:50
know that some of it by the
33:52
Se see why? Did the Fcc want
33:54
do something very altruistic that's going to
33:57
have. You know, Sort.
33:59
Of. The other teams met a dirty
34:02
other Yeah, universities are better says.
34:04
That. May comedy expands on the bottom
34:06
line and he fcc I get it,
34:08
you know, like the as you seen
34:10
the Big Ten at some point it
34:12
gets. Can you know contracted so much
34:14
to sized The really need somebody to
34:16
do the Washington Generals every week Godfather
34:18
or found themselves. But. I think there
34:21
will be those schools just because they
34:23
won't be making so much money and
34:25
so I don't. I
34:27
don't understand that part of that. How they
34:29
make that work. I get why they're people
34:31
were speaking about us. I. Just
34:33
you it you that the people
34:35
from the former Big East and
34:38
and Andrew Marsh on that. Some
34:40
people utility that on the record
34:42
which was the opera president, some
34:44
from Syracuse and maybe one from
34:46
parents. Must engine? Yeah yeah. So.
34:49
Like they're the ones who are You were kind
34:51
of getting squeezed by where this is are headed.
34:53
Know if you'd asked me, this is kind of
34:56
a little bit of a non sequitur, but if
34:58
you'd asked me, you know the same with the
35:00
A C C and Stanford Macau and S A
35:02
New. I'd. Be like a didn't
35:04
really make much sense to me like yeah
35:06
I get why why they're be a short
35:09
term like yeah let's do this because we
35:11
need a lily pad to land on both.
35:13
Ah, They're not. They're not
35:15
at the top of the food chain. make him a
35:18
decision. And the ones who have a lot of the
35:20
power. I just don't know. How
35:22
you make it and I'm not. I'm not
35:25
a business that odyssey how you make it.attractive
35:27
to grew at or Greg Sargent or need
35:29
a Td to make and Alia will sacrifice.
35:31
What we got to go go back to
35:34
this year the Nfl for I have to
35:36
play Ronan and and that was one of
35:38
the things are gonna jump out to me
35:40
about was that the number two guy the
35:43
Nfl is involved in this project and so
35:45
young we have. you wanted to work. you
35:47
probably need the Nfl to strain on E
35:49
S P N and Fox and the Ramey.
35:51
I need the Nfl. Influence on this so
35:54
was it goes. It's obviously very early and
35:56
I love the prospective. Thank you for spend
35:58
some time with is Bruce. Always good
36:00
to catch up and we'll talk again.
36:04
Or your pleasure guys make sure you
36:06
watch sports games the I do suffer
36:08
spirits even harder to watch the Monument
36:11
for an effect on your best thinkers.
36:13
A breezy about can vary as yep
36:15
he is over the athletic put some
36:18
amazing pieces out there on twitter he
36:20
is so connected in a with him
36:22
gets dead fish malik check and will
36:24
have to mother Mcginn some points but
36:27
may I hate lily pads and I
36:29
just say that decision or or the
36:31
lakes swimming and landscape design of of
36:34
spelling. I'm I love the analogy
36:36
of landing on a lily pad like it's
36:38
really cute word phrase and picture but I
36:40
he'll only person who doesn't other people that
36:42
my class. Not
36:45
to let people like swimming and like circles brought
36:47
people are like swim an absolute sick are not
36:49
one of on hung up no way I is
36:51
Bruce has hi I'm Michael panics as any one
36:54
as we've had on the show right? Yeah.
36:56
I mean I think he does Heard him say
36:58
like okay Kale does one like of I'm A
37:00
to. I'm look at Michael Penance Yeah.
37:03
And. Then number that he ran allowed. I have.
37:05
I have written it down I'd certainly seen on
37:07
my board and I think it's you. Eleven and
37:09
two and fourteen when it's twenty five and three
37:12
and Two years of Washington. With. And
37:14
obviously keen on board. Really good. So good Alabama
37:16
one am obviously rang Reds really good. So good
37:18
at John Side or the Seahawks won that rights.
37:20
Roman do they a damned melanin. Thirteen draft guys
37:22
that know really good but he was the one
37:25
man he was the one. He was the straw
37:27
that stirred that Drayton's and you start to you
37:29
know you put me through that little rapid fire
37:31
that I failed of Logan and us and then
37:33
some point be start walking through like these different
37:35
attributes and U S Bruce a good question like
37:38
okay cut to it your you done this a
37:40
long time You've been around all of this, you're
37:42
connected. He talked to all of these coaches. Scouts
37:44
g players. So what is it? The what?
37:47
what? What? is the thing that you're looking
37:49
for in that quarterback and I think you
37:51
hear him at the end of that say
37:53
i want somebody that's get that grits That's
37:56
that's failed and it's overcome it. It's.
37:59
In an idea you saw Can I don't
38:01
know this on the record? This is just
38:03
my speculation but I bet you and you
38:05
see go back to read that peace and
38:07
have you read that a couple months ago
38:09
on panics it was is Bruce said man
38:11
it was transparent he didn't doc he didn't
38:13
like yeah at you know I got it
38:15
now cause the Nfl and and be Mr
38:17
Tough guy and I bet you panics his
38:20
agent was even like i don't ask among
38:22
all that out because it's gonna be some
38:24
they're like move man he was a real
38:26
sensitive soul. But. He came out of
38:28
it. And he came out of
38:30
that he bought himself out together with the
38:32
ear. Some of the sensitivity at the end
38:34
of a couple other of the games as
38:36
bad as yeah they they very well may
38:39
in that very well may be a questions
38:41
you know but I don't. I think their
38:43
sons be said about those two guys, his
38:45
last names and an ex in Nixon panics
38:47
that both overcame a lot of adversity in
38:49
Oboe Next basically ran out of the planes
38:52
of Alabama and had to go out west
38:54
and reinvent himself. Michael Panic Sewers broken and
38:56
in like Humpty Dumpty had a put himself
38:58
back together. In Western Washington. In reinvent
39:00
himself. He didn't say it, I will. He
39:03
had to reinvent himself and reinvigorate his entire
39:05
career because it was on the brink of
39:07
being done. In when you've been
39:09
in that position is Nixon panics were I
39:11
they get released him in college and hopefully
39:13
they can play with that same kind of
39:15
freedom at the Nfl level and stuff that.
39:17
I wonder? I don't think that these
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as being slightly. Older at twenty four
39:22
than what Mccarthy's like. twenty. One another. That's
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necessarily a bad thing. Quarterbacks are playing longer
39:26
these days, and you get guys that have
39:28
been through a little. More in Namibia little
39:30
armchair. Yeah I mean what When Mccarthy lose
39:32
one game last couple years, one game and
39:34
high school? you know can a bachelor trade
39:37
Lance are now it's missing and it's and
39:39
Armor Expectations National championships. It's not you know
39:41
in Fargo, North Dakota but that will be
39:44
something that he's going to. he's going to
39:46
deal with in a way that panics a
39:48
bow. Certainly have already through that. My concerns
39:50
are a good stuff. Good conversation. thanks to
39:53
Bruce for spin little time with us, Brock
39:55
and are going to draft profile common up
39:57
and then or thirty five. Minutes from now.
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Will are def Leppard tickets Ma'am we got
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Journey tickets We need you guys to saying
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he really belted out of you want you
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to impress us The judges here are going
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to be making a decision on who wins
40:10
the tickets and you're gonna have to sing
40:12
in order to don't stick around that's coming
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up Bra draft profile was next Brock Insult
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