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As this limp was developing and you're in
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high school. Never in your thoughts
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are you thinking I must have a disease
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or disability I didn't know about. I
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know there's going to be a lot of struggle and
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things are going to get worse. But you
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have to be resistant. You have to be willing to fight,
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you have to be willing to push past
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your means in order to live
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a quote unquote normal life.
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There's no magic pill that you can take. You
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know, that's terrifying. It
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was kind of really dark time. It was
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just like, well, what do I do?
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What is you know, what's happening? You're
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feeling like your life is over? How
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terrifying would it be to fight an
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unknown enemy, one you didn't
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recognize and didn't see coming. What
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if that enemy was coming from within
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a disease even doctors
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couldn't identify. Nearly
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half of all Americans suffer
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from some chronic illness, and many
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struggle for an accurate diagnosis.
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These are their stories. A.
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Lauren Bright the checko and this is
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symptomatic. When
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you meet cam Redloss, you immediately
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notice her pink hare and then as
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you talk to her, you quickly notice that she
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has a fiery and creative energy
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to match. So I'm actually a self
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taught illustrator and all
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of my drawings are related to moments
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inspired by my rare debilitating
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condition that it just kind of took on a life
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of its own. Cam has gained
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a following for her emotionally evocative
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illustrations, which reflect her long,
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arduous journey to find a diagnosis and
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learn how to live with an elusive disease
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that has altered the course of her life.
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One of the things that she's really good at, and
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I don't even know if she does it purposely, is the fact
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that she's so open and vulnerable
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about herself. You know, most people shy
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away from wanting to be
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too honest or show their insecurities or
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even faults, and Cams like, you
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know what, you know, I can't really avoid
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people seeing my insecurities a certain
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extent, and so I might as well just be open about
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it and talk about it
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myself and let people into the conversation.
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That is her husband Jason, who first
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met Cam when they were in design school in Michigan.
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But Cam's symptomatic journey started
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long before then. So
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I'm a Korean American adoptee and
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I was abandoned at birth. I was
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born with a cleft palette. I
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also had a deadly livery
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disease and chicken pox.
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I had measles and this
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is all in the first four months without a
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mother or parents whatever. Um. I
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was told to abandoned me right at the maternity clinic
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and I spent four years in an orphanage until
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an American family and Michigan adopted
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me. I have three brothers. I always
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say they were homemade. I was imported. It
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was a very typical Midwest upbringing.
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Cam grew up in a pretty competitive soccer household,
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where her father once played and
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brothers were eager to follow in his cleats.
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Cam showed impressive talent on the field
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to moving easily to varsity level
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as a high school junior. Soccer
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is a huge part of my life. I played the thirteen
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years and then when I got
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divarsity soccer, I was just noticing
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I was running slower. I would
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kick and it was such a disconnect
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with my mind and my body and
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there would be such a delay and I'm like, what is going
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on here? I am on the virsity soccer
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team and I felt like I was just embarrassing.
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I'm like, what's going on? I can't I am not myself.
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What did you think was happening at the time,
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because you must have been gas lighting yourself
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to a certain degree. Well,
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I agreed with that that I thought, well, it's
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me. It's easy to be very self
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critical, and it was just another reason
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to be done on myself and it was just a lot of
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self loathing. It was a very difficult time
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because I thought it was my fault. So
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when I look back at that time, I
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just remember all these issues
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that I had that I didn't know was
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something, and instead I blamed myself.
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But this wasn't her fault. It
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wasn't something she could just work through with
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some extra practice session or drills.
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And little did sixteen year old cam No, these
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were the first symptoms of a disease that was about
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to rapidly change the course of her life.
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Like a year later, I just kept complaining about
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it. My room was done in the basement, and so running
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up and down the stairs is a very normal thing for me to
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do, and then suddenly it became really difficult.
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I just couldn't. I would
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try to run up the stairs and I was like tired by
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the time I got to the top, and I was like, well, that's strange.
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Also, a gate or a limp
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started developing. I was thinking, that's
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just weird. Am I so lazy or
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auto shape that I can't even get my
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ankle to move? So I did start telling
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my parents I think there's something wrong, something's
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going on, And there was still that hesitance
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of like, okay, I'm you just not trying hard
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enough. So we went to the family doctor
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and pretty much he said he thinks one
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leg is shorter than the other. So for about
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two years I wore she
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lift. Nothing was changing,
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it was just getting worse. And I would tell my parents,
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hey, this is not getting
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better, it's actually worse, and
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this she lift is kind of hurting. Um.
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The response will be it's because you're not wearing it.
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And as it got worse than it became obvious
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like there's something going on here. From
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delayed reaction time quickly turning
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into drop foot as Cam struggled
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to understand the events, the mysterious
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deterioration of her mobile city was
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only just beginning. That must
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have been such a painful period
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sixteen seventeen and eighteen
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where you're trying to draw
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attention to something you don't understand,
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and then you're blamed for the symptoms.
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Yes, that was very difficult,
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and honestly it's more difficult in hindsight.
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I think that's something that a lot of us
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could potentially do, maybe to our child
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if our mind isn't there. We
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don't want to ever go
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there and consider that it could be a health
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thing. But now that I know what was wrong,
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I do feel a little bit of sadness
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for the young teenage cam
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who kind of just had to go through it alone.
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You know, you're in high school and you just feel
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like, you know, all my senior friends
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are playing soccer and I'm the leader
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who didn't make the team. And again,
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never in your thoughts are you thinking I
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must have a disease or disability I didn't
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know about. But contrary
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to the challenges, Ken never let
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what was happening to her physically getting the
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way of her goals, a theme she'll carry
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through her entire journey. She pushed through
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her first misdiagnosis and set
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her sights on studying industrial design
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in college, and as her symptoms
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worsened, she pushed even harder for
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answers. So I started
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seeing specialists because I felt like there's
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something neurology related. And again
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I know nothing about medical but what I found
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throughout the entire process is, Wow,
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there's no one that is going to help
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me. They all just gaslight me or
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give me pills that aren't helping me and making it
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worse. I didn't anticipate such
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a long journey of trying to figure out what
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was happening to my body, and pretty
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much every specialist was the same. I would go,
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they would do some tests, and
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they were all about the same area of diagnosis
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around my disease, but it wasn't the diagnosis.
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So one was like limon girdle, muscludish
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defy, one was facio scapular
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moscutif. One was dematomissitis.
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While Cam was diligently searching for answers
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and also working through a grueling industrial
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design program, she met Jason,
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who was in the illustration program at the
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same school. I
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just saw her. I was like, Wow, who's that and
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she looks super cute. She jokes
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that I stalked her, but when
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I figured out that she was in the industrial design
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program, I would kind of make my way over to their every
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once in a while kind of check things out, just to see if
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she was around. They instantly became
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friends, but she made it clear they
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were just friends for now.
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So do you remember how she opened up
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to you? How did her
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health struggles come up
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in conversation? You
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know, we probably talked about it very casually
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and very lightly. I
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didn't want to just bring it up and be like, hey,
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like, why are you walking with a cane? She
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brought it up at some point where we're hanging out, and
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uh, she explained to me a
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little bit more about the story honestly
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than the prognosis, because
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she didn't actually know for sure
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what she had at that time. But you kind
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of explained that, yeah, she had been sticking
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answer for a long time now.
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Using leg braces and a cane on a daily
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basis, Cam was able to get around,
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but it seemed to become more difficult by the month.
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Feeling that pressure without a proper treatment,
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Cam felt more emboldened to move
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on to the next doctor to try a different approach
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to figuring out what was wrong. So
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I had about six different diagnoses. Two
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of the diagnosis I had early on limb
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girl on muscaro distro feat and
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polymositas. Those seem
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like just by based on the symptoms,
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that those could be it. But obviously
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after a while living
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in and taking the medication, it
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was just a feeling like, I don't think those
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are it. On top of the frustration
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and mental toll it was taking on her
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to constantly feel an answer was always
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eluding her. It was increasingly
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difficult for Cam to even get
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herself to these appointments on her own, but
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she was determined to find an answer because
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she held onto the hope that if she
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did, her mobility could be restored.
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So there was an urgency for
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you to get a diagnosis, because
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did you think that if you
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got the right diagnosis you could
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reset things, that there would be
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a cure. Well, yeah, any
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kind of treatment, and the answer
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is always better than the unknown, even
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if it's a terrible answer, at least as
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an answer, because then you don't feel crazy
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or you don't feel so
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alone. So it's really the answer
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that you're looking for. Not ever
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realizing it could be this significant and this life
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altering, I just thought, well, there's something, and they'll
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give me some medicine and I'll be fine. Desperate
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to find the potential treatment that could slow
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or even reverse the loss of her mobility.
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Cam hit an emotional wall when a neurologist
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took eight months to give her the results of a
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biopsy, despite her sir,
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though she sympathizes with her
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doctors. And so I'd have to drag my
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disabled body using a cane and leg braces
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into this hospital center and
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they would tell me, oh, we don't have your results yet, and
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this is eight months later, and
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then I would go back in again and they
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would say we don't have your results. And
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I was thinking, like, what is going on?
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And I just finally said, you know how difficult it is
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for me to come in here. Why wouldn't you guys
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tell me that you don't have them
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and make me come into an appointment the
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lead neurologist, he basically said,
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And I was getting cheery, and he knew my parents
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are going through divorce at the time, and you know, college
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is very difficult, and he basically said, oh,
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I'm sorry. Is it because your parents are getting a
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divorce? Do you need some medication for that?
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And I get it. I have sympathy for doctors.
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I get that they're getting a lot of non specialists
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coming and telling them what they think is wrong.
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But there is also something to
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that where the person does know their
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body the most and got the most
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and involved to try to solve it. Cam
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was on an emotional pendulum,
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swinging from determination to loneliness
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and back again. After five
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diagnoses that never seemed to fit and
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traveling all over Michigan trying
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to find an answer, Cam had an
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idea and a glimmer of hope to
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go to the best hospital in the country for rare
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diseases, the Mayo Clinic. It's
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so weird looking back on it, but when
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you're in it, all these things
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aren't adding up. It only
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adds up in hindsight. We'll
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be right back with Symptomatic, a
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Medical Mystery Podcast. Now
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back to Symptomatic, a Medical Mystery
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Podcast. Cam
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had been a rising soccer star in high school when
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some mysterious illness started targeting
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her legs, taking away her mobility
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piece by piece while juggling
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assignments in a grueling design program.
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As a very independent young adult, she
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went on a mission to try to find answers
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as to what had been ailing her. When
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you're in it, all these things
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aren't adding up. It only
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adds up in hindsight, But you
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know, at the time, you're just like, I
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don't know. I'm trying to finish college. I
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know there's some kind of disability or something
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going on here. So that was very important for me to
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finish college, and so I was very hyper
13:32
focused on making sure I get my degree while
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I'm trying to figure out my diagnoses. But
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now she had a new possibility for
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hope of the diagnosis. She was
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traveling to the Mayo Clinic to see the best
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doctors in the country. So I
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flew there actually by myself. Um,
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which is really difficult looking back. How
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old are you at this point? I
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mean I was old enough. I was sobaly like twenty
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four, but it
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didn't actually bother them, and it doesn't
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old like um
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more so as an older person just thinking back on
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it. Cam was at the Mayo Clinic
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for almost a week, going through a gauntlet
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of tests trying to get to the root of the issue. But
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she only had to wait two weeks to
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get a phone call that would change her life.
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I was in my parents kitchen on
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the phone the Wins with chords. They
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said, you have Genie myopathy,
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and I was like, Okay, well, what do I do with that? How
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do I even know I still have this? Because I had just gotten
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five different incorrect diagnoses.
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Though Cam had reservations at the time, the
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diagnosis was correct. She
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finally had an answer to what had been slowly
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taking her mobility from her since she was
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a teenager. Genny myopathy.
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It's a hereditary muscle disorder
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that starts when you're born, but
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the actual symptoms don't start until
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usually your teens or twenties early adulthood.
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Often start with weakness in distal muscles
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distal meaning towards your hands and feet,
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so often a foot drop where you can't lift your feet
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up at the ankles, and then progresses
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slowly throughout the body and your skeletal
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muscles in your limbs, and over
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the next ten to twenty years, patients may lose
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the ability to walk and may have to rely on a wheelchair.
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They may have trouble with breathing in
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less common cases, but it is slowly
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progressive. That was Dr
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Minichia Corp, an Assistant professor
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a neuromuscular specialist at UC
15:30
Irvine. She's also the doctor
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currently overseeing Cam's care. Cam
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struggled for years to get
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answers to what was happening to
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her. Is that uncommon with Jenny
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myopathy. No, it's very
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common to not have a diagnosis for
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a long time, especially in the
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days before, maybe five years ago, where
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genetic testing became more readily available
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and much cheaper. So now
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we can diagnose it pretty fast. I mean, I would
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say, as soon as someone came to a ner
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muscular special lit's clinic, we could
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do a genetic panel and find
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out within a few weeks. But before
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that, I mean when she was being worked up
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in the early two thousands, genetic testing wasn't
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readily available, and so she,
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for example, went through multiple muscle biopsies,
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and they could tell there was obviously some kind
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of muscular dystrophy going on, but to nail
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down exactly what type was a
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much longer process. Cam was now
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equipped with the knowledge of what had been attacking
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her. It now had a name, but coming
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to terms with her options hope
16:30
of finding a cure and gaining back the mobility
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she had already lost was a battle
16:34
of its own. When I'm reading the prognosis
16:38
of this disease, I really don't know what to think. Because
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it's telling me, Okay, you're gonna
16:43
not be able to walk, You're going to go into a wheelchair
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and complete immobility.
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And it's not like I didn't believe it, but you look at
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it and you're like, wait, I'm going to not be able to
16:52
move in the future. It's like maybe your mind
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does some tricks and doesn't want to accept
16:56
that, but you don't know what that means
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until it starts happening. I read it, I
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knew what was going to happen. But as I've
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gone through these stages of the disease
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and progressing and different mile
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stones in my body, I've realized how
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little you can truly understand
17:12
textbook jargon of what's
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going to happen to you. And that's
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something that has couraged the way I share, where
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I make it more personal, because you
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don't realize that when you eat. Even the person that's
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experiencing it struggling to wrap
17:25
her head around a prognosis that says her muscles
17:28
will slowly deteriorate until she loses
17:30
all of her motor skills. She goes
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from feeling alone on her journey for a
17:34
diagnosis into a
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deeper pit of despair after having
17:38
one. It was kind of really
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dark time. It's something that I've recently shared on my
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Instagram over the summer,
17:45
very lightly. I mentioned that I was serious.
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Idal it was just like, well what
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do I do? What is? You know? What's happening? Um?
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And there's an element of your feeling like your life is
17:56
over because there's this association
17:58
with disabilities that it's not a life worth
18:01
living, which now is a disability advocate
18:03
for over twenty years, I realized that's a very
18:05
harmful and incorrect assessment.
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But you know, you don't know
18:10
that as a child, when I looked at someone disabled,
18:13
you just view it as something like, that's so
18:15
unfortunate. And so we've
18:18
been riddled with all of these narratives
18:20
of disability and disabled life, of that
18:22
it's not worth living. While still
18:24
struggling to reconcile what her future
18:27
will be like with her life's goals
18:29
and ambitions, Kim goes back to the
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physician whose dispiriting advice
18:33
gave Cam the push she needed to take
18:35
back the reins. Then I went
18:37
to my sociatrists and he said, oh, I
18:39
have heard of that. It's extremely rare.
18:42
My suggestion to you is you should
18:44
quit college, immediately, get
18:46
a less ambitious job, maybe
18:49
a secretary, and just
18:51
get ready for a life of like basically
18:53
nothing. So the
18:56
doctor basically told you you're
19:00
up against insurmountable odds.
19:03
Your best strategy at this point
19:05
is just give up. Yes,
19:09
that is exactly what he said, which
19:11
is really shocking. Instead
19:16
of internalizing her diagnosis is something
19:18
that would restrict her life, she took
19:20
it as a reason to take advantage of every
19:22
single day from that moment on. Cam's
19:25
attitude from that respect has always
19:28
been a benefit to her because Cam
19:30
has a very resistant, resilient
19:33
kind of personality, meaning if you tell her she can't
19:35
do something, she's going to say, oh,
19:37
yeah, I can. And so that was
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pretty much what happened as she said, well,
19:42
yeah, I am going to finish school and I am going to
19:44
have a career, and largely that's
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what she did. I just felt like that
19:48
diagnosis put a lot of time moment
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in my life suddenly, and
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that's probably what catapulted
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or the origin of my philosophy
19:58
of really living in a lot. I came from
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Cam immediately went on a soul searching
20:03
journey to Korea. It was the first time
20:05
that she had visited her place of birth, even
20:08
going back to the orphanage she lived in until
20:10
she was four. The trip restored
20:12
her, It invigorated her, It reshaped
20:14
her perspective on her future. I
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booked ticket, I left two weeks later, and
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I think that really helped change
20:22
my thinking. It's not that it wasn't
20:24
still difficult, but it just realizing that there
20:26
was a lot to live for. There's a lot of life out
20:28
there, and there's a lot of things that I want to
20:30
do, and I think I subconstiantly
20:33
made a decision that I was going to live
20:35
my life as fully as I could. Before
20:38
immobility happened, Cam
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was still slowly losing control of her legs when
20:44
she returned to Michigan from her trip. She
20:46
quickly realized she needed to live somewhere warmer
20:49
to make her lifestyle easier. Michigan
20:51
is a lot of winters, and what
20:53
would happen is I'd fallen the ice outside
20:56
my door and just be laying there looking
20:58
up at you know, the dar guy, And I thought,
21:00
I need to get out of here. I need to go
21:03
to warm estate because I know I'm
21:05
going to get more disabled. And
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I decided to move to California.
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Out of the blue, Jason called and
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he said, Oh, I'm in California right now.
21:14
If you want to come stay with my roommate and
21:16
I while you look for a job, that's perfectly
21:18
fine. And so that's how it started.
21:21
It's kind of funny because I
21:24
joked that when she came out here,
21:26
I was like, oh, yeah, you're looking for work, I can you
21:29
can stay with me in my roommates. But it
21:31
was secretly entrapment in
21:34
the beginning stages and coming into California,
21:36
it was a little nervous, like I didn't technically
21:38
know Jason super well. We're
21:41
friends, but you know, I'm going to go live with them,
21:43
and I'm having much difficult
21:45
time getting around and it didn't have a job,
21:48
so it was a little scary, but
21:50
it worked out. I got a job. I started working at
21:52
Mattel and you know, my whole
21:54
life in California began. After
21:57
her diagnosis, Cam was determined
21:59
to dictate her in dependence and success. She
22:01
started traveling more, moved to California
22:04
to pursue her design career, and discovered
22:06
the world of disability advocacy.
22:09
Cam learned to share her story and awareness
22:11
the best way she knew how through her design
22:13
and her art. Sometimes,
22:16
though, you know, get emotional and cry or something
22:18
like when I was drawing the piece that
22:20
was signifying my beginnings of going into a wheelchair,
22:23
you know, stuff like that, is that you're really working that out,
22:25
So it is a form of therapy for yourself. They
22:28
say, picture's it worth a thousand words,
22:30
And I think Cam really maximized
22:33
that ability to the fullest extent.
22:35
But yeah, she still gets recognized to this
22:38
day for her arts, and I still
22:40
see comments on our posts and social
22:43
media just saying like, yeah, that's exactly
22:45
what I'm experiencing, what I'm feeling, or I never
22:47
even thought of the think of it that way.
22:49
Cam uses her art to process and reflect
22:52
on her journey. Her art is beautiful
22:55
and emotionally evocative, so much
22:57
so that she's gained a significant following
23:00
community which resonates with
23:02
the new experience of Cam's story,
23:04
including Dr Corb. One
23:06
of the other ones that caught my eye when I was looking
23:08
through her gallery this week was one
23:11
where she's kind of behind these bars.
23:14
She's more of like the head and she's using
23:17
puppet strings to manipulate her limbs
23:19
which are just disembodied, you
23:21
know, legs and arms that are kind of in the
23:23
foreground of the picture, and it says
23:26
in another place in the land, far away, she
23:28
was able to move her limbs just with the pull
23:30
off a string, and I thought that was
23:33
really powerful way of looking at it. And
23:35
it's hard for us, if we're not affected
23:38
with those symptoms, to understand what it feels
23:40
like for them on that side. I
23:42
have seen those comments as well in social media
23:44
that other people pick up and it's like, Hey, this is possible.
23:47
I don't have to withhold this from myself. I can't
23:49
do this. Cam's openness
23:51
to share her story with other people through both
23:54
her art and her warm spirit, has
23:56
led her to become a speaker for different advocacy
23:58
groups around the world, in particular
24:00
g n E myopathy patient groups. There's
24:03
patients in Japan as well. They
24:06
had heard about Kim and
24:08
so they had invited her over to kind
24:11
of consult her on how
24:13
to start a patient advocate group. So
24:15
we went over and we talked with
24:17
them and we had a great time, and they showed us around
24:19
and I was like, what better time
24:22
than now to uh, you
24:24
know, do something unique and proposed
24:26
to her. Buoyed by Jason's
24:28
unwavering support and the hopes
24:30
that sharing her story might help
24:32
others navigating their own struggles, Km's
24:35
outlets through art and advocacy
24:37
address the visceral reality of living
24:40
at the mercy of her condition. Jason
24:43
and Cam are now working through how to live with
24:45
the constantly changing nature of g n
24:47
E myopathy. I'm an
24:49
artist. I need my hands. So that's
24:51
kind of been illuming shadow that
24:54
Okay, this is another thing I'm gonna lose. Wow.
24:57
So the grieving process
25:00
has become something that
25:02
you've had to look at as almost
25:05
a marathon. Yes, it
25:07
feels like it never ends, and
25:09
you get adjusted to one stage and
25:12
then another one comes up. You're like, Okay, I can deal with this
25:14
level of progression. For me at the stage,
25:17
it's the same thing I say every year. If it could
25:19
just stop right here, I'd be I'd be fine with it.
25:21
I don't mind being disabled. I'm very
25:23
used to it now and I think it's brought a lot of perspective
25:26
an interesting way of living. But
25:29
I'm constantly like I
25:31
just wish it would stop right here. I wish it would stop
25:33
taking more, because that's the difficulty
25:36
is once you adjust to a new level, then
25:39
another loss happens, so you have to go through the whole
25:41
process of good. I think when we
25:43
learned about it, like what the full diagnosis
25:46
was, and you hear the words like complete
25:49
immobility, like you have an idea
25:51
what that means. It's kind of an abstract
25:53
concept at that time. My initial
25:56
reaction was like, oh, like, oh my god,
25:58
and then I felt really bad ad
26:01
for what Cam was going to have to go up against. There's
26:03
a lot of negatively associated with it, but my
26:06
initial reaction was because we have been
26:08
together for a while and I was invested. It
26:10
was like, well, it's terrible, but
26:13
I'm glad that I'll be able to at least be able to
26:15
be here for him.
26:18
Cam has been on a long, arduous journey to understand
26:20
what was happening to her, fighting against
26:22
misdiagnoses and internal gas lighting
26:25
while feeling herself slowly lose control
26:27
of her body. Cam's experience has
26:29
only reinforced her fortitude to take advantage
26:31
of the opportunity she has in her life,
26:34
countering her loss of mobility with
26:36
creativity and purpose. So
26:39
even though I'm sure she feels trapped
26:41
in her body, She's not letting that stop
26:43
her. She's still active with multiple creative
26:45
outlets in terms of her writing and
26:47
her art, and you know,
26:50
speaking out for others to be able to find
26:53
their diagnosis faster, you know,
26:55
with less inconvenience. I think that's
26:57
incredible. The word heroic
27:00
is usually applied to these superhero type
27:02
characters who are invulnerable it can do anything,
27:05
but like, that's not heroic if you're
27:07
vulnerable, right, Like being heroic is
27:10
someone who is vulnerable, someone who
27:12
can be hurts, whether physically or emotionally.
27:15
I remember how difficult it was when
27:17
I was alone going through this, and
27:19
what I've realized through like fifteen years
27:21
of advocacy is everyone just wants to
27:23
feel seen, they want to
27:26
feel validated. It's very awarding
27:28
that people can feel a little
27:30
bit more whole or connected just
27:32
through the aspect of
27:35
someone else sharing their story. And
27:37
that's all I'm doing, is sharing my
27:39
story. For more
27:41
information on g n E myopathy,
27:43
go to Cure g n E m
27:46
dot org or check out the first
27:48
ever g N E myopathy Clinic at
27:51
U c Irvine's Neuromuscular Center,
27:53
led by one of Dr corbess colleagues.
27:56
My name is Camrad Lusk, and it
27:58
took me about eight years to find a diagnosis
28:01
for gn E myopathy. On
28:04
the season finale of Symptomatic, August
28:07
has been suffering since the age of five, with
28:09
symptoms which include inexplicable
28:11
sores and excruciating pain. You've
28:14
been in so much pain that you're
28:17
like, Wow, I'm
28:20
screaming, but it's not helping.
28:23
Perhaps I should stop screaming because it's
28:25
not helping. What can I do? What
28:27
can I do? There's nothing I can do. He
28:29
goes on a search for diagnosis that, even
28:32
once found, continues to provide
28:34
daunting medical challenges. Symptomatic
28:38
a Medical Mystery podcast is an
28:40
original podcast from I Heart Radio.
28:43
Are shows hosted by me Lauren Bright Pacheco.
28:45
Executive producers are Matt Romano
28:48
and myself. Our EP of post
28:50
production is James Foster. Our
28:52
producers are cra Kaiser and
28:54
John Irwin.
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