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0:00
As Fridayful
0:09
Meet the Heart Kids as they appeared online.
0:13
This is a family sing along Jen posted
0:15
to YouTube back in two thousand thirteen.
0:17
Davante is on the bongo drum,
0:19
Abigail is holding a guitar but not playing,
0:22
and Jeremiah is shaking a morocco while
0:24
Hannah dances off to the side. They're
0:27
in a sunny room with a gleaming wood floor,
0:30
and the shelves behind them are packed with neatly
0:32
stacked picture books. Happy
0:34
times, right, It certainly
0:36
looks that way, especially when Davante
0:39
pauses to give Hannah a hug. Is
0:41
it spontaneous or
0:44
is the person behind the camera prompting
0:46
him with a stern glance. We'll
0:48
never know, yes, Zula,
1:04
we don't know when Jen and Sarah Hart decided
1:06
they wanted children. Maybe they always
1:08
wanted to be moms, or maybe they just felt
1:10
like kids were the next logical step. Years
1:13
after they adopted six children, Sarah would
1:15
tell a colleague that she wished she'd known it wasn't
1:17
mandatory to have a big family. She
1:20
was the oldest of four kids. Jen was the
1:22
oldest of three. We're piecing
1:24
together the events that led Jen and Sarah from
1:26
their early days together all the way to the edge
1:29
of that one d foot cliff in California.
1:32
How did they go from being just the two of them
1:34
living in Minnesota working at a department
1:36
store to a family of eight in
1:38
less than three years. From
1:41
glamour and how Stuff Works, this
1:43
is Broken Hearts. I'm
1:46
Justine Harmon and I'm Liz Egan.
1:50
We've been looking into the story of the Heart family
1:53
for the past six months. In public
1:55
and on Facebook. They looked like the perfect
1:57
family, fun loving, joyful,
1:59
and acky in the best way. But
2:02
as we've learned, sometimes
2:05
perfect is the perfect
2:07
cover up. In
2:23
two thousand four, when Jen and Sarah
2:25
were in their mid twenties, still living in Alexandria,
2:28
still working at Herburger's, they took in a
2:30
fifteen year old foster daughter. Just
2:32
to give some context, This was
2:34
the same year Minnesota State Senator Michelle
2:37
Bachman laid the groundwork for presidential
2:40
run on an anti gay platform,
2:42
calling homosexuality personal
2:45
bondage, personal despair, and personal
2:47
enslavement. When thousands
2:50
gathered on the steps of the Capitol to rally for
2:52
same sex marriage, she spoke out to a Christian
2:54
television network, there's something that's
2:57
happening in our schools. And one of the reasons
2:59
why I felt like I was called
3:01
to take up this issue is because
3:03
of the profound impact that
3:05
this would have on every man, every
3:07
woman, every child in the state of Minnesota.
3:10
Because everyone thought this would only impact
3:12
the one point three percent of our population
3:15
that is the same sex individual. And again,
3:17
don't misunderstand, I am not
3:20
here bashing people who are
3:22
homosexuals, who are lesbians, who
3:24
are bisexual, who are transgender.
3:27
We need to have profound compassion
3:29
for people who are dealing with a very real
3:31
issue of sexual dysfunction in their life.
3:34
It's not funny, it's sad. It's
3:36
part of satan. I think to say this is gay,
3:39
it's anything but gay. So
3:41
this is the backdrop for the world in which the
3:43
Hearts started to build their family. You
3:46
already met Jordan Smith. She was
3:48
only nineteen when she worked with Jen and
3:50
Sarah at her burgers our Field.
3:52
Reporter Lawrence Smiley talked to Smith
3:55
about Jen and Sarah's first foray
3:57
into parenthood. They are one
3:59
of my early role models for what like
4:01
a non traditional family could look like.
4:04
I was nineteen at the time. The foster
4:06
child she was probably I
4:11
remember one of them
4:14
sharing with me a lot of
4:16
like this girl is so difficult,
4:19
she's awful, and
4:21
that she was eating out
4:24
of the garbage. It
4:26
felt like mean girl gossip,
4:28
you know, like she's the worst. It
4:31
didn't feel like they really had interests
4:34
in developing her as a
4:37
person and giving her the tools
4:39
she needed to be a
4:41
successful adult. And I
4:43
just felt so sorry for the girl. I
4:46
wasn't really old enough to realize that, like these
4:49
are shitty parents, But even
4:51
at the time, I just kind of was like, this was a
4:53
child, she's struggling, Like
4:57
something's not right about this, Like
5:00
isn't it your job to make her feel more
5:03
confident and encourage her to have
5:05
healthy habits. But
5:07
you know, I also grew up
5:10
in the Midwest where I didn't
5:12
see a lot of like great
5:14
parental models happening. I
5:18
grew up where people still hit their
5:20
kids in the nineties, Like
5:24
in the Midwest and Minnesota, you
5:26
became parents are like one and
5:29
let's be honest, you're you're immature, Like,
5:32
okay, my brain is still developing until
5:34
I and now I have to develop
5:37
this other human instead of focusing my energy
5:39
on you know, becoming the adults I need to become.
5:44
Her burgers would have just like friends and
5:46
family sale and all
5:49
the makeup counters were filling the books with
5:51
a lot of makeovers to like drama
5:53
more business, and so Sarah
5:56
and Jen signed their foster
5:58
daughter up for one of the makeovers as kind
6:00
of a let's bring you into our world a little
6:02
bit, you know, like maybe this is something she
6:04
would want to learn about. I
6:07
was the only teenager working at the counters.
6:10
They thought it would be fun to have her go
6:12
with another teenage girl. So
6:15
I did her makeover, and you
6:17
know, i'd say things like she had really pretty
6:20
skin, which she did, I remember
6:22
that for some reason. And
6:25
she was hunched over, like
6:28
holding herself in. I
6:31
could tell she did not want to be there. I
6:34
remember Jen and Sarah,
6:37
mostly Jen interrupting and answering
6:39
questions or being like she
6:42
doesn't talk much. I
6:45
remember them being both very annoyed
6:47
with the situation, like we
6:50
came into work on a day
6:52
we're not working and
6:54
we're doing this nice thing and our boughter
6:57
daughters being difficult and annoying
7:00
it. I don't remember her
7:02
being difficult are annoying. I remember
7:04
her being very insecure
7:06
and unsure of herself, and
7:09
Jen being very intimidating. I
7:12
didn't see a lot of empathy coming through,
7:16
Like I remember that very clearly and being
7:18
like, huh, do you feel
7:20
sorry for this girl. After
7:26
Jen and Sarah died in March, their former
7:28
foster daughter told the Seattle Times that she never
7:31
ate out of the garbage she remembered
7:33
the makeover. She said she was a tomboy back
7:35
then and never wore makeup, which
7:37
would explain her slouched posture that day
7:39
with Jordan's. The former foster
7:42
daughter, now in her twenties and preferring
7:44
to remain anonymous, also told
7:46
the Seattle Times how she remembers Jen and Sarah
7:48
showing her pictures of the three young children
7:50
they were planning to adopt. She was thrilled.
7:53
Jen and Sarah had told her she was going to stay with them
7:55
until she turned eighteen, and now she was going to be
7:57
a big sister. But that's not what happened.
8:01
They were applying for the
8:03
children, the first three. They
8:06
had gone and visited them,
8:08
and I remember them being really excited.
8:11
I didn't apply like a lot of critical thinking
8:14
to the situation at the time. I
8:16
mean, like if I had my experience, now I'd be
8:18
like, you don't seem very excited with the child
8:20
you have, why do you want three more? But
8:23
mostly I remember hearing it like after
8:25
I left her Berger, I'd hear that, like
8:28
Sara Engin, they got their three
8:30
kids, like they're so happy.
8:34
I remember vaguely hearing
8:36
that they dropped the foster daughter
8:38
off and like just abandoned
8:41
her. And I
8:43
remember being like, what the fuck? Cold
8:46
blooded? Like, oh Jesus,
8:49
there is their excitement about getting adopted
8:52
kids. Did you get the sense they really wanted
8:54
to be moms or I got
8:56
the sense that they wanted the validation
8:59
be a foster parent, didn't have
9:01
the cloud of having children like
9:04
they want to be like, we
9:06
have children that are ours versus
9:08
a child? Were watching and do
9:11
you mean validation as in we're a real
9:13
couple, We're a real you know, we're
9:16
a real family. Jenet
9:26
Sarah dropped their foster daughter at a therapist
9:28
office and never returned. She
9:31
never heard from them again. She was moved
9:33
to a different foster home. Her belongings
9:35
were already there. She would
9:37
not become a big sister after all, She
9:40
told the Seattle Times. She remembers
9:42
feeling abandoned devastated.
9:49
Two years later, in two thousand six, Jen
9:52
and Sarah officially adopted those three siblings
9:54
from the Texas foster system,
9:56
Marcus then seven, Hannah
9:59
four, and Abigail too. On
10:02
December, in a
10:04
Facebook post celebrating Abigail or
10:06
Abby's twelfth birthday, Jen
10:08
wrote, she was the first of my children
10:10
I ever held in my arms. Not
10:13
only is today her birthday, but it
10:15
also marks the day Sarah and I became mothers.
10:18
We flew to Houston, Texas ten years
10:20
ago on Christmas Day to meet our first trio
10:22
of children. Due to a plethora
10:24
of issues that came up with our flight and then finding
10:26
the hotel had burned down, we wouldn't
10:29
meet the children until the next day, December.
10:34
We walked into the foster home a bundle of
10:36
nerves and excitement. The
10:38
foster mother called Abby from the upper level.
10:41
This dainty little peanut walked out,
10:44
grabbed the railing, walked down the stairs,
10:47
stood right at my feet, and held out
10:49
her arms as a gesture to be picked up.
10:52
I lifted her and she immediately nestled
10:54
her head right into my chest, with her tiny
10:56
arms gripped around me, genuine
10:59
love oozed out of every pore of
11:01
my body. I will
11:03
never know what it's like to birtha child,
11:06
or the feeling of holding your newborn for the
11:08
first time, but I imagine
11:10
the feeling is much like what I experienced
11:12
with Abby.
11:18
We'll get more into the adoption process, Leader,
11:21
but just to give you some quick background, Marcus,
11:24
Hannah, and Abigail fell into
11:26
several categories that might have made them hard
11:28
to place with adoptive families. They
11:30
were black. Black children are overrepresented
11:33
in foster care and less likely to
11:35
be adopted out of it, and it can
11:37
be more difficult to find families willing to take
11:39
on multiple siblings. Jen and
11:41
Sarah had their work cut out for them.
11:44
They were young, they had no family in
11:46
the area, and overnight they
11:48
became mothers of three.
11:52
Ten years later, on the anniversary
11:55
of the day Jen and Sarah brought Marcus,
11:57
Hannah, and Abigail home to Minnesota,
11:59
Jen would revisit their first night as moms
12:02
in a Facebook post. The post
12:04
is accompanied by Jen's profile picture. Jen
12:07
and Sarah hart cheeked to cheek, their
12:09
faces mostly hidden behind big sunglasses.
12:12
Here's what she writes, and bear
12:14
with us. This is long, but we
12:16
want to give you a sense of how much Jen really shared
12:19
on Facebook. A
12:21
different kind of Mother's Day, March
12:24
third, two th six, with
12:26
temperatures in the teens and an abundance
12:29
of snow on the ground. I wondered
12:31
what their reaction would be as we paced back
12:33
and forth, peering out the front windows
12:35
while clenching our phones in anticipation
12:37
of their arrival. The three hour
12:39
flight from Houston seemed like days. Nearly
12:43
two years of our lives had been dedicated
12:45
to making this moment a reality, and
12:47
then bab parenthood
12:50
times three. Jen continues
12:52
the lengthy post with rumination on their
12:54
first day as parents. All
12:57
the challenges of a lesbian couple trying
12:59
to break through barriers in a rural
13:01
community in Minnesota just transformed
13:04
into a story of hope and triumph.
13:07
The social worker pulled up in a silver sedan
13:10
and out came three little humans that gifted
13:13
us with motherhood. My
13:15
heart pounded with pure love and the strength
13:17
of a million drums as we embraced
13:19
and welcomed them to their home for the first time.
13:23
To say this was an unforgettable day would
13:25
be an enormous understatement. It
13:27
was unforgettable in all the ways we weren't
13:29
expecting. We had no idea
13:32
what challenges we would be facing in the coming
13:34
months years. I
13:36
can't even begin to imagine what it would be like
13:39
for a child that had lived their entire life
13:41
with inconsistency, abuse, and
13:43
neglect to be swooped twelve hundred
13:46
miles away to a new place with the
13:48
promise of this time it will be
13:50
different. This
13:53
is how the first twelve hours of motherhood
13:55
was for us. The youngest urinated
13:57
anywhere but the bathroom several times
14:00
and fell down a flight of stairs, resulting
14:02
in a bloody gash on her chin. The
14:05
middle child pulled out chunks of hair and
14:07
smeared feces on the wall and gorged
14:09
herself with food until she started choking
14:12
and needed the Heimlich, resulting in episodes
14:14
of projectile vomiting. The
14:17
oldest banged his head repetitively on
14:19
a rock wall until we were able
14:21
to safely restrain him. Blood
14:24
was involved. This was a result
14:26
of not giving him a king sized tutsie roll
14:28
that he requested at nine pm.
14:30
It took hours to calm him and get him to
14:32
a place where we could leave him in his room to
14:34
sleep. We were physically
14:36
and mentally obliterated by this time. We
14:39
went to be absolutely terrified as a
14:41
million thoughts ran through our minds. As
14:44
we drifted off to sleep, we were abruptly reminded
14:47
that our day was far from over. Loud
14:50
crashes, banging, and strange
14:52
sounds slash voices from above
14:54
us resulted in us sprinting upstairs
14:56
to find the eldest in a closet. He
14:59
told us he was possessed by demons as
15:01
he growled, clawed, and spoke in multiple
15:04
voices while continuing to thrash, bite,
15:06
and bang his head on the wall. My
15:09
heart was breaking and I was terrified. I
15:12
was terrified for him, and it would be
15:14
disingenuous if I didn't admit I was afraid
15:17
of what he could do to others as well. Hours
15:20
passed before we were able to get him to sleep.
15:22
That night, just when it seemed
15:24
like we could breathe again, the youngest had
15:27
an asthma attack and stopped breathing. A
15:29
one am e er visit followed. I
15:34
didn't sleep at all for the first forty eight
15:36
plus hours of parenthood. I
15:39
cried a lot. What
15:42
had we done? We had no experience
15:44
with these kinds of things. We questioned
15:47
everything. When the social
15:49
worker called to check in after the first night,
15:51
we related everything, the good, the bad,
15:53
and the ugly. Her response,
15:56
just give them whatever they want. We
15:59
were dumbfounded. That's
16:01
it, that's the golden advice.
16:04
In that moment, I knew what to do. We
16:07
could not give up on these kids. Before
16:10
we were matched with these children, they were going
16:12
to be separated and adopted into two
16:14
different families, with the oldest place
16:16
in a residential treatment facility. How
16:20
can a child even know what they want when they haven't
16:22
ever been gifted with what they need? If
16:25
not us, who at
16:28
twenty five years old. We didn't have any parenting
16:30
experience under our belts, but we
16:32
had boatloads of love, compassion,
16:34
intelligence, and the natural instincts
16:37
to navigate these wild and uncharted
16:39
waters. There was no
16:41
way on earth we were going to toss
16:43
these children back into an incredibly
16:45
broken and abysmal foster care system.
16:48
Here we are, one decade
16:50
and three more kids later, ten
16:53
years ago to day, we became mothers
16:56
and began the grandest adventure of
16:58
our lives. Through
17:01
the spectrum of despair and utter
17:03
joy, I give thanks to all
17:05
of us who have joined this journey of
17:07
the Hearts. Look what love
17:09
can do. Come assist in
17:11
writing the next chapter with us, Love,
17:15
Love, Love. The
17:30
adoption records for Marcus, Hannah,
17:32
and Abigail are sealed, so it's
17:34
hard to fact check Jen's claims of health
17:36
or behavioral issues, but there
17:38
is no evidence that Abigail, the youngest,
17:40
had asthma. We also can't
17:43
verify whether Marcus was going to be placed in residential
17:45
treatment. The sibling
17:48
Gen was referring to here may have been the older
17:50
brother of the Davis Is the second set
17:52
of siblings adopted by the Hearts kids
17:54
Sarah and Jen hadn't even heard of back
17:56
in two thousand six. Maybe
17:59
Jenn, ten years later, was just getting the kids
18:02
mixed up. There were six of them, after all. Every
18:04
mom calls her kids by another kid's name at some
18:06
point. But the night was so momentous
18:09
for her. One can't help but wonder if she was
18:11
going for drama over truth. Can
18:14
you imagine if your mom posted something
18:16
like this about you on Facebook? Remember,
18:20
at this point, the Hard kids were teenagers. Marcus
18:22
was seventeen, Hannah was fourteen,
18:24
and Abigail was thirteen. Maybe
18:27
they never saw their mom's Facebook posts,
18:29
but if they did, they would have been old enough
18:31
to be completely mortified. Janet
18:36
Sarah must have gotten into the groove, because
18:38
not long after they welcomed their first
18:40
three kids, a picture of their new family
18:43
of five appeared on an adoption agency
18:45
website. They were smiling,
18:48
everyone looked happy. This time,
18:50
Jen and Sarah were seeking up to three
18:52
more kids of any ethnicity
18:54
up to eight years old. Two
18:57
years later, in the spring of two thousand
18:59
eight, they took in three more foster kids,
19:02
five year old Davante and his younger siblings,
19:05
Jeremiah four and Sierra three.
19:08
The Davis siblings were also from Texas,
19:10
and they'd been removed from their mother's home in Houston.
19:13
According to court records, she was a crack
19:15
cocaine abuser and was forbidden contact
19:17
with the kids. The records
19:19
showed that Jeremiah had tested positive
19:22
for cocaine at birth, and the kid's mom
19:24
had tested positive for cocaine after Sierra
19:26
was born. They'd been living
19:28
with their paternal aunt, Priscilla Celestine
19:31
for five months. She'd moved from a
19:33
three bedroom apartment to a five bedroom
19:35
place to make room for them, but then
19:37
one day, a CPS worker made a spontaneous
19:40
visit to their aunt's home and found their mom
19:42
babysitting. The
19:44
consequences were swift. Davante, Jeremiah,
19:47
and Sierra were removed from their
19:49
aunt's home and put into foster care. Shaunda
19:53
Jones, Celestine's attorney,
19:55
says Celestine had been called into work for
19:57
an extra shift a needed childcare in
19:59
a pinch, She's trying to keep her job,
20:01
so she scrambled for childcare and called their
20:03
mom, who she says was clean at the time.
20:07
Jones met the family ten years ago, but she
20:09
still remembers their case. Here's
20:11
how she described it to Lauren. The
20:13
father's rights were being terminated because I think
20:15
he had alcohol problems and
20:18
the mother had drug problems,
20:21
and so that's why their rights were terminated. Which
20:24
I don't take issue with that in
20:26
that instance, that was the prudent thing to
20:28
do. But I always have taken issue
20:30
within this case is the
20:32
harsh manner in the way that they dealt with
20:34
Miss Celestin. There was nothing
20:37
in her background whatsoever, probably
20:39
never even had as much as a driving ticket
20:41
um And to this day,
20:43
it just seems so strange, like I
20:45
don't understand what is the rush.
20:49
I do think that race is a part
20:52
of thing. Absolutely. I think race is playing a part.
20:54
You know, when people are sitting in the audience thinking
20:56
that, okay, well, why did the judge just rule
20:58
that way? Would think If I was trying
21:00
to adopt a kid and you had a family
21:03
member that wanted to adopt them, I personally
21:05
would think that's great. Why should I try
21:07
to interfere with the family member's adoption of their own
21:10
family? Right? That should kind
21:12
of like be a clue right there and there that this is a person
21:14
you don't think can operate in the child's best interest.
21:17
Let's pause here for a second on that point.
21:20
Davante, Jeremiah, and Sierra hen
21:23
and aunt who wanted them, She really
21:25
wanted them, but instead
21:27
they were sent to live with Jen and Sarah Hart,
21:30
who were soon to be under investigation for
21:32
child abuse. Yes, you
21:34
heard that right. We'll get into more
21:37
on that later, but
21:40
first we want you to know a little more about the heart
21:42
children, who they really were, as
21:44
best as we can piece it together from Jim's Facebook
21:46
posts and our conversations with people
21:49
who knew them. First.
21:51
There was Marcus, the one
21:53
with the big, floppy hair. He
21:56
loved to read and devoured Twilight in one
21:58
sitting. He wanted
22:00
to change the world one
22:03
Christmas. According to his mom, he
22:05
asked for a world without cancer. Hannah
22:09
was the spunky one with a closed mouthed smile.
22:11
Her front teeth were missing. Jen's
22:14
Facebook post described her as dancing and singing.
22:17
Once. She told her mom she couldn't concentrate
22:20
on subtraction because she had a song stuck in
22:22
her head. She
22:24
must have been a courageous kid, too, because
22:26
she would later jump out of her bedroom window and run
22:29
to the neighbor's house task for help. Next
22:32
up DeVante, whose face
22:34
you might remember from a photo that went viral
22:36
in two thousand fourteen. Davante
22:39
was the boy hugging a cop tears
22:41
streaming down his face. He
22:43
was known for wearing a free hug sign wherever
22:45
he went. He loved animals
22:48
and hated Donald Trump. He
22:50
appeared to have a special bond with Jen. He
22:53
may have gotten special treatment as a result.
22:57
Abigail known as Abby, had big
22:59
brown eyes and glasses. She
23:01
loved lime, green, yoga, and
23:03
exploring the wilderness. She had
23:05
a homemade strawberry shortcake on her birthday.
23:09
All the Hard kids were arrestingly beautiful, but
23:11
when you look at pictures of Abigail's face, you
23:13
feel like you can see the elegant woman she might have grown
23:16
up to be. Jeremiah
23:18
wore glasses too. They called
23:21
him the J Man. He was stoic.
23:24
A survivor, Jen said
23:26
he wasn't expected to live more than a few
23:28
days when he was born, what with all the drugs
23:31
coursing through his system.
23:33
Instead, he made it to fourteen and
23:36
last, but not least, there was Sierra. She
23:38
was another animal lover. She adored
23:40
her kitten, Sebastian and pulled him around the
23:42
house in a cardboard box. In
23:45
one of Jen's final Facebook pictures, we
23:47
see her holding one of her brother's hands backs
23:49
to the camera. She's wearing a bathing
23:51
suit and her shoulder blades are so pronounced
23:53
they look like little wings. In
23:57
the past several months, Justine and I have
24:00
seen hundreds of pictures of the Heart
24:02
kids, but we only have a handful
24:04
of recordings of their voices. Here's
24:07
one from two thousand twelve. You
24:09
can hear the kids giggling in the background, and
24:11
Jen's voice as she hands Jeremiah
24:13
and Earthworm. You're ready,
24:16
Yes,
24:19
Yes, what are you doing?
24:22
I was excited? Try
24:27
again? Can
24:29
you try not to throw him this time like
24:37
he's turning kids? Oh,
24:39
maybe he loves you up
24:48
next time? On Broken Hearts, Yeah,
24:51
I see them. They're right over his head. I
24:53
know it doesn't look like it, but that bird
24:55
is really a dove asking
24:57
us for world peace, no
25:00
wars. When
25:03
I say that Jen was good, she was good
25:05
at the time, we're thinking, Wow, phenomenal
25:08
parenting. You're not exploiting your children. We
25:10
learned now that there was some abuse charges in
25:12
Minnesota there fleeing
25:15
to Oregon, so there's probably more of a reason
25:17
why she didn't want to go on national TV. Have
25:20
you seen John's Facebook? Jen
25:23
loves Sarah to an
25:25
insane degree.
25:31
Broken Hearts is a joint production between
25:33
Glamour and How Stuff Works, with new
25:35
episodes dropping every Tuesday. Broken
25:39
Hearts is co hosted and co written
25:41
by Justine Harman and Elizabeth Egan
25:43
and edited by Wendy Knockle. Lauren
25:46
Smiley is our field reporter, Samantha
25:49
Barry is Glamour's editor in chief, Julie
25:52
Shen and Dianna Buckman head up the
25:54
business side of this partnership. Joyce
25:56
Pandola, Pat Singer and Luke
25:59
Zeleski are a research team.
26:01
Jason Hoke is executive producer on
26:03
behalf of How Stuff Works, along
26:05
with producers Julian Weller, ben Kiebrick,
26:08
and Josh Thaine. Special thanks
26:10
to Jen Lance. Have questions
26:13
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26:15
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26:25
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