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0:02
We've talked about how Jenn and Sarah
0:04
Hart met each other and how they quickly
0:06
adopted six kids. We've
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talked about how Jen curated an identity
0:11
for the family on social media and
0:14
at music festivals. And
0:16
we've talked about how the Hearts lived. Now
0:20
we're going to talk about how they died. This
0:23
is hard stuff, obviously, and
0:25
we've spent a lot of time thinking about it.
0:29
What happened in the week leading up to the hearts
0:31
five and sixty one mile trip from
0:34
Washington to California, and
0:36
when Jen arrived at the edge of the cliff,
0:39
what made her keep her foot on the gas
0:42
From Glamour and how stuff works. This
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is Broken Hearts. I'm
0:49
Liz Egan and I'm Justine
0:51
Harmony. We're
1:05
going to check back in with Bruce and Danna decalb
1:07
who were the Hearts neighbors in Woodland, Washington.
1:10
You'll remember they're the ones who were woken up in the middle
1:13
of the night by Hannah Heart shortly
1:16
after the handa incident. They
1:19
bought blinds and never
1:21
ever opened up, never
1:24
closed. You
1:27
couldn't see in the house, you couldn't see in their
1:29
car. They would go from the house to
1:31
the car and from the car to
1:33
the house literally single file, and
1:35
it was like kind of at a fast
1:37
clip, almost like running. Jennifer
1:40
would get out and open the doors. Then
1:43
they would get out and single fowl
1:45
to the house. I was hoping to see
1:47
Anna again because I was hoping to
1:50
get it to her that you are
1:53
always welcome to my home, that
1:55
no matter what, feel free to come here,
1:58
or have her give me a signal all you
2:01
know that she needs
2:03
help. I wanted to let any of the kids
2:05
know that, you know, if they need help, just
2:07
give me the not because
2:09
I just never felt comfortable
2:12
about what I was observing.
2:15
That's Dana who still teared up when
2:17
talking about the hearts nearly two months after they
2:20
died. Even though the sheriff's
2:22
deputy had told Dana it wasn't illegal
2:24
to not let kids play outside, she
2:26
still had a bad gut feeling about the family.
2:29
In fact, she vowed to keep watch on
2:32
the comings and goings of their cars on
2:34
anything she could decipher from the house.
2:36
With the blinds drawn tightly shut. She
2:39
made sure to take notes of each new visit
2:41
Davante would make to their house. For
2:44
months, Dana had only gotten
2:46
tiny tidbits Davante's
2:48
clipped greetings when she tried to intersect him
2:50
in the driveway on garbage runs. But
2:54
now finally, little
2:56
by little, Davante was opening up.
2:59
We have to take our garbage cans to the street,
3:01
and it's a long ways, and so I would watch for the kids
3:04
because I wanted to try to have a conversation with
3:06
any of them, you know, But I could never get him
3:08
to talk to me, and I never saw
3:11
Hannah. One time,
3:13
Davante and I kind of waited
3:15
for him and caught up with him,
3:17
and I talked to him, but he wouldn't answer me.
3:20
Finally, right when we went to split and
3:23
I said, well, you know, I have a good day, and he goes,
3:25
yes, ma'am, and that was all I got
3:27
from the whole way up the driveway. He
3:30
got back up to the house and
3:33
I saw Jennifer scolding
3:35
him. She went inside
3:37
and left him standing out the rain.
3:41
And my first reaction, my gut was he just
3:43
got in trouble for talking to me. And
3:46
then from that day on we never
3:48
saw him take the garbage. They did
3:50
it in the night. I
3:55
thought, Okay, obviously there's
3:58
something going on that they've been instructed
4:00
not to speak with us from
4:03
that day forward. DeVante, he
4:05
was the only kid of the six
4:07
of them that was ever outside doing work. He
4:10
was raking leaves or
4:13
puling things. One
4:15
day, I sat watched he carried
4:18
ten bags of soil from the front
4:20
of the back, and I kept thinking, my god,
4:22
there's six of them. Even if Hannah's
4:25
too tiny, there's three boys, and
4:27
Marcus was way bigger than Dante, and
4:30
so it blew my mind and I sat
4:32
and watched that, thinking, eventually, I'm going to see another
4:35
kid. But it only was DeVante.
4:37
When you tell me that the kids chose to live out
4:40
in the country, you want to become self sufficient, then
4:42
I would expect to see kids out in the
4:44
yard planting
4:46
or enjoying the property.
4:49
You know, if you want to live like this, you enjoy
4:51
it. And so it wasn't adding up
4:55
my gut instinct still at me on alert.
4:59
She talked about it, for I was
5:01
obsessed with She was obsessed with it. I
5:04
watched their comings and goings. I
5:06
mean, I knew when Sarah had a day off. Um
5:10
I stopped him essentially because
5:13
I just couldn't let it go.
5:18
Aside from a few brief conversations
5:20
in the driveway, the decalbs
5:23
felt the Hearts were avoiding them,
5:26
but that changed on Thursday, March
5:28
two, eighteen, when Davante
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approached Bruce, who was working on his
5:33
truck, and asked for tortillas.
5:36
It was a simple request, like asking
5:38
for a cup of sugar or a stick of butter, and
5:41
Bruce was happy to help. That
5:43
same day, over on Facebook, Jen
5:46
was celebrating the ninth anniversary of Davante,
5:49
Sierra and Jeremiah's official adoption
5:51
date. She posted six black
5:53
and white pictures of the kids grinning and wearing
5:55
cute hats. We won't read the
5:57
whole status update, it's a long one
5:59
too, but the lions are about to
6:01
hear are pretty poignant. Considering what
6:04
was about to happen, and considering
6:06
that DeVante might have been asking Bruce for
6:08
food at the very moment, Jen type
6:10
these words, I
6:13
am a better human in every
6:15
possible way for knowing these children.
6:18
They have been my greatest teachers. Contrary
6:21
to the common notion that we can't choose
6:23
our family, we absolutely
6:25
can. We choose by
6:28
loving, and that's worth
6:30
celebrating every damn day.
6:34
Dana and Bruce weren't friends with jan on Facebook.
6:37
In fact, they had no idea she was active on
6:39
social media until after she died. On
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Friday, March six eighteen,
6:45
around nine am, they answered
6:47
a knock on their door. There was Davante
6:49
again asking for bread. This
6:52
time Dana was the one who gave him the food. She
6:55
didn't have bread, so she gave him tortillas
6:57
instead. The first night, I didn't think
7:00
anything when he came back, I was like, m that's
7:02
weird, okay. He would
7:04
kind of watch down the road, watch down the road,
7:07
and you know, but he was the only here
7:10
as long as he needed to be. He would never
7:12
come in the house, never came in that not
7:15
in the rain, no, no, never came in the house. Would
7:17
not step but I'd say come in and it's raining,
7:19
Nope, And he'd be like he
7:21
was always really in a hurt. But
7:24
then when he came back Friday night, It's like, wait
7:26
a minute, I just gave you like thirty tortillas
7:30
A specifically put I gotta take
7:32
a step back and just you know, size
7:34
him up. He
7:37
was always dressed in baggy or clothes, rubber
7:40
boots and longer sleeves, you
7:42
know, I mean in March when he started coming over here,
7:44
it's still wet and cold. His
7:47
shoulders were super small and
7:49
comparison to his head, I have little
7:51
shoulders. He was smaller than me. He
7:55
was really thin, you know, like his
7:57
arms rose because of my wrists. That's
7:59
all? Are you? By four? Was he
8:02
taller than you? Around
8:05
my height? The
8:08
next day, around five pm, Davante
8:11
was back. He
8:13
wanted more food. Bruce and Dana
8:15
tried to get him to stay and talk. Dana
8:18
was determined to collect information she
8:21
could share. When she called Child Protective
8:23
Services again. Remember
8:25
the first time she spoke to them after
8:28
her dad reported the hearts, she
8:30
was told there was nothing they could do to help.
8:33
That's when it was like, okay, we gotta get details.
8:36
So every time he came over, I would ask him
8:39
a little more and a little more. You know. First
8:41
it was just about playing outside,
8:43
you know where you are allowed to play outside at your
8:45
other house? And then it was what about school?
8:48
Meanwhile, Jen continued to post about
8:50
Davante on Facebook. He was
8:52
one of her favorite subjects. We know that. Already
8:56
four days after his first visit
8:58
to the Decalbs, she shared a pick sure
9:00
where you can only see his eyes brown
9:02
and smiling. The bottom of
9:04
his face is obscured by a tray full
9:06
of dirt and seedlings. The
9:09
post reads, we currently
9:11
have six hundred flowers slash vegetables
9:13
growing in the living room before theyre moved to
9:15
the little greenhouse. She
9:18
goes on to say that the kids are quote
9:20
reading their environmental biology books
9:22
out loud to each other and to the
9:24
plants. It sounds like a
9:26
cozy scene. On
9:36
Tuesday, March, Davante
9:39
returned to the Decalbs house twice.
9:42
Although he still wouldn't come inside, he
9:44
was at least more forthcoming than he'd been
9:46
on previous visits. I
9:49
asked him how he was able to sneak over here.
9:51
He told me they weren't very observant. Now
9:53
I've learned that Jennifer was a gamer,
9:56
a video gamer on computers,
9:58
and so he came over when
10:01
she was probably gaming, or
10:04
he would come over late at night when they were probably
10:06
asleep. Sarah was never home.
10:09
I don't think when he made his trips over here, she
10:12
was either gone to work or it was late enough
10:14
that she would probably be in bed. This
10:16
made sense while Sarah was working
10:19
long hours at Cole's Jen was running
10:21
a guild of video game enthusiasts,
10:24
sometimes dominating group chats to the point
10:26
where one dubbed her a stone
10:28
cold narcissist. So
10:30
it seems like there wasn't a whole lot of supervision
10:32
happening in the hearthouse and
10:34
the family life, DeVante described to the Decalbs
10:36
bore little resemblance to the rosy utopia
10:39
Jen described to her fans they
10:41
were withholding food as punished.
10:45
He would say, well, we're teenagers and we act
10:47
out, and so we get punished
10:49
in that way. And Danis
10:51
said, well, there's nothing you could ever
10:54
do that would warrant someone taking
10:56
food away from you. I don't care what
10:58
it is. So to a degree
11:00
he did say, we're teenagers
11:03
and act out, like trying to claim there was some
11:05
sort of cause, yeah, or that maybe
11:08
that they thought that
11:10
there was a cause, you know, trying
11:12
to make it like it was normal somewhat,
11:15
but obviously it wasn't. Just
11:18
to recap Davante showed up
11:20
at the Decalps on March and
11:26
one. He showed up
11:29
for the last time on March
11:31
twenty two. He started asking
11:33
for cured meat and
11:37
six stars of peanut butter and six
11:39
packages or tortillas and apples,
11:41
and then he he goes
11:44
and donuts and he kind of looked and I
11:46
said, no, I'm not doing no junk food.
11:48
He goes, okay, you
11:50
know when you say specifically cured meats,
11:53
and he told us non perishables. He even
11:55
said non perishables. You can't have
11:57
anything that's frozen or needs to be fagerating
12:00
it. It was like, is
12:02
he going to run away? Was
12:07
there like a moment that you felt the
12:09
pitch change of just like I'm
12:11
not gonna be guarded about this anymore. I'm just telling
12:13
you we're being abused. Yeah.
12:15
That was on Wednesday, when
12:18
he first started telling us a
12:20
little more about abuse. Um
12:23
and then asking as please don't call the
12:25
cops. Told us that everything
12:27
Hannah told you was true,
12:30
the things my mom told you were just to make you happy,
12:34
and it was just like, oh god, I totally
12:37
bought into it. And I was
12:39
just like, oh God, yeah,
12:42
just kill me. I
12:45
said, okay, so why did she run
12:47
away that night? Because my
12:50
mom was abusing her? It
12:53
was just like too
12:55
much had
12:57
started out just as you know, a meal air
13:00
or there, but now it was long periods of time, and
13:02
then he said, Sarah used to not go along with it,
13:04
but she is now. You
13:09
know. I just felt like, Okay, now
13:11
I have enough to get somebody's attention.
13:15
On March two, eighteen,
13:18
Jen made her final Facebook post. It
13:21
was a thirty second video of a pair of ducklings,
13:24
one yellow, one black. We
13:27
see the ducks splashing together in a bowl
13:29
of water, cuddling in someone's
13:32
arms, someone who is white and
13:34
wearing a gray sweatshirt. Then
13:36
the ducks are balancing on the back of a rabbit
13:39
and a cat, and finally climbing
13:41
over a bowl filled with geode starfish
13:43
and shells. In the background,
13:46
we see a woman with long brown hair wearing
13:48
a blazer and a T shirt, probably
13:51
Sarah, on her way to work. It's
13:53
a peaceful, domestic scene, and
13:55
the last frame says happy Spring
13:58
in a jaunty font. The caption
14:01
cuteness overload Alert. These
14:04
spring equinox babies have waddled
14:06
right into our hearts. So much
14:09
joy in New life.
14:12
Two likes comments,
14:15
many of which were posted after the
14:17
Hearts died. On
14:21
Friday morning of March Danna
14:23
de Cau called Child Protective Services
14:25
to report all of the information she had collected
14:28
about jen and Sarah Hart. Officials
14:30
showed up within a couple hours, but
14:33
by then Dana thought every
14:35
second counted CPS
14:37
had been contacted and gone
14:39
out to see them.
14:42
When she coming back, I'm here, but
14:45
I can't find you. There's
14:48
wild I'm I'm up where there across
14:50
the street is a bank of mailboxes. I
14:53
said, okay, well turn around and I'll
14:55
watch for you, you you know, and then I'll tell you
14:57
turn now. So I'm literally standing
15:00
you're watching for her to go by, and
15:02
I see Jennifer coming
15:05
down the hill and
15:07
I was thinking, a crap,
15:10
maybe the kids were home, you know alone,
15:14
CPS could have been here by now. So
15:17
I watched Jennifer coming up the driveway and
15:19
I'm like, well, their whole So
15:24
I told the lady turn in when you come up the driveway,
15:26
go to the right. She came to my house,
15:29
so she pulled up. I might, you
15:31
know, given a signal to go back. I
15:34
just motioned because I didn't want to yelp next
15:36
door, you need to go next door, because I
15:38
thought, well, I could be out in the driveway, and
15:40
so she got back in her car and went next
15:42
door. She
15:47
wasn't there very long, and I watched her leave
15:50
and I'm like, crap, nothing
15:53
came of this. But
15:57
they never asked it to door. Even
16:00
if you do answer the door, you
16:02
can say I'm sorry, you didn't have to come back another
16:05
time. What
16:08
were your feelings when you actually made the call
16:10
and reported in. I think I
16:12
was nervous,
16:16
You know, I was
16:18
glad I did it because I got the feeling it
16:20
had to happen. I mean, I knew it had to
16:22
happen. Were you worried that
16:24
they then they would get abused more? I
16:27
was. That was my biggest fair But
16:31
what actually happened was worse. Dana
16:43
saw Sarah's car speeding into the driveway
16:45
and then at some point during the night, the
16:48
car disappeared. As far as
16:50
Dana could tell, the house next door
16:52
was completely empty. You just put it
16:54
together that they had gone on the run. You didn't
16:57
see them blaze out. Well,
16:59
the rock wall was knocked on the end of
17:01
it was clipped left
17:05
so fast that they backed over that rock wall
17:07
and knocked it down. This, you know, that
17:09
was Saturday morning, then Sunday when the
17:11
car was gone Sunday morning, that's
17:13
when we said they're running they're
17:15
gone at that moment.
17:18
What did you think would be the outcome of this?
17:21
I guess I just figured they were trying
17:23
to hide long enough to sort
17:26
it out. Yeah, figure out their story.
17:28
They owned the house. Where are they gonna what are they
17:31
gonna do? They gotta come back, even they
17:33
had chicken still here in the animals
17:35
are all up there, and Sarah's cars. I mean,
17:37
it just didn't occur to me that
17:40
this was going to be the outcome. You know, you
17:42
don't really think about I didn't
17:44
think they killed in
17:47
my wildest imagination. Sarah
17:51
was scheduled to open coals at six
17:53
am on Saturday morning. At
17:56
three am, she texted co workers,
17:59
I'm so sorry. I
18:01
thought I would be able to go to work, but I'm
18:03
too sick to come in. Sarah's
18:06
colleague, Cheryl Hart, had worked with her
18:08
the day before on that Friday.
18:10
She says she didn't notice anything unusual about
18:12
Sarah, at least not then. Her
18:16
mood that day I felt was fine.
18:20
I had just found out that I
18:23
was getting promoted, and
18:25
she had actually known before me, so
18:29
she was like, oh, I'm so glad that now you
18:31
know. Now I could tell you congratulations
18:34
and everything, and so she was excited for me, and
18:36
so we were um,
18:39
laughing and stuff. On
18:41
Saturday, March, the
18:44
Hearts phones pinged off cell towers
18:46
along the Oregon coast into California,
18:49
and as you know, on Sunday,
18:53
Jen showed up in Fort Bragg on a
18:55
Safeway surveillance video. She
18:58
was alone and about twenty five
19:00
pounds heavier than friends had ever seen her,
19:03
wearing a gray sweatshirt, possibly
19:06
the same one we caught a glimpse of in the video
19:08
with the Ducklings. By
19:12
Monday afternoon, Cheryl Hert was getting
19:14
concerned. Sarah
19:17
hadn't shown up for work all weekend and wasn't
19:19
responding to texts, So Cheryl
19:21
decided to call. When
19:23
she said she was sick, did she say what was going on? Or
19:26
she just said that she just is unable
19:28
to to come out and we're
19:31
being able to go to work and
19:33
thought she was gonna go to the doctor. Um.
19:36
I've checked the hospitals. They didn't come any records
19:38
of her, and I think
19:40
her phone is now dead. We
19:44
were curious about why Cheryl made
19:46
this call. Jessine
19:48
and I worked pretty closely together and we definitely
19:50
talked about our families and what we did over the
19:53
weekend. But I'm not sure
19:55
I would call if she didn't
19:57
show up for work for a few days. Can
20:00
talked through just why you made the call. Well,
20:03
so it started because Sarah
20:06
was stick and because
20:09
Sarah wasn't answering her phone. So
20:12
they had asked me how to pull up the
20:14
emergency contact list because
20:17
they thought that maybe they
20:19
could contact Jen. So
20:21
I pulled it up. They
20:23
called Jen and left
20:26
a message. I
20:28
sent a text message to the coworker like Sunday
20:30
night, and I said, you know, saying by her from Sara
20:32
yet And she said, no, she does. It's really kind
20:34
of weird. And I said, that is really weird.
20:36
I said, she would not miss, you know,
20:38
two days of work without checking
20:40
in or anything like that. I'm like, it's so bizarre because
20:44
everything that was going on, she
20:47
still did her job. She
20:50
still showed up every day, she
20:52
wasn't late, she still took initiative
20:55
to get her projects done. She still had
20:57
great ideas. I mean, she did everything.
21:01
If you were just to walk in and
21:04
not know her history
21:06
or her family, or her home life or whatever,
21:09
you would never have any idea because
21:12
done bits showed when she was out on that sales
21:14
floor. She had that hatlog,
21:16
you know, all of her
21:18
stuff. Aside, she did her jobs.
21:24
So then we went in Monday and
21:27
we waited until about nine o'clock and
21:29
she still hadn't shown up. By
21:32
this time, the storm manager had come in and
21:34
I had filled him in on everything that had happened
21:36
over the weekend, which was like, you
21:38
know, something's going on, you know,
21:41
what do we do? And he's like, well,
21:43
I don't know. I don't know if we can get involved
21:45
or anything. And I was like, it's kind of
21:47
course to me, and she like, I
21:49
think we have to get involved in the stuffing that's going
21:51
on. He had talked to his
21:54
manager and they said we'll like
21:56
give it another hour or so. And I
21:59
was like, oh my gosh, you guys are being
22:01
men. This is ridiculous. Something
22:04
needs to be done. So
22:07
then I figured out that Jen's
22:09
emergency contact number was actually
22:11
Sarah's phone number, so
22:14
we didn't have an emergency contact number
22:16
for Sarah. So I finally got
22:19
the okay to call it in and
22:22
I made the call and then here
22:25
I sit today. About
22:31
two hours after Cheryl hung up the phone, a
22:33
German tourist spotted the Hearts Tan two
22:36
thou three Yukon Xcel upside
22:38
down at the bottom of the cliff in Mendocino
22:41
County. The police report includes
22:43
a photo of the car from above, and it
22:45
looks like it's flat to the ground with
22:47
its brown and gray machinery camouflaged
22:49
by the rocks, sand and water. When
22:52
you look at aerial shots of the scene, the car
22:55
blends in so well it's hard to see.
22:58
The bodies of Marcus, Abigail, and
23:00
Jeremiah were found nearby.
23:03
Sierra's body washed ashore. About two weeks
23:05
later. A
23:07
foot presumed to be Hannah's was found
23:09
nearby as well, but at the time of this
23:12
recording, investigators were still trying
23:14
to match it with DNA from a woman claiming
23:16
to be Hannah's biological mom.
23:18
Davante's body is still missing. The
23:22
car's computer showed that moments before the
23:24
crash, Jen had stopped on a gravel
23:26
pull out seventy ft from the edge of the cliff
23:28
and then accelerated. You
23:31
might wonder if the brakes malfunctioned, but
23:33
according to a Carfax report, the
23:35
pads have been replaced the previous July. Her
23:38
industry experts The average brake pads
23:40
last for around forty miles, so
23:43
unless the Hearts had driven back and forth across
23:45
the country six times, the
23:47
brake pads should have been in perfect working order.
23:51
Meanwhile, remember all that lush Greenerygen
23:54
wrote about. When the police showed
23:56
up to search the Heart's house, they found
23:58
no plants inside. But
24:00
over on Jen's Facebook, the ducklings
24:03
continue to splash in their bowl of water,
24:05
one yellow, one black. The
24:08
most recent comment comes from a loyal
24:10
friend wishing Jen a happy birthday months
24:13
after she died. Next
24:18
time on Broken Hearts, the
24:21
kids are skinny. Well, we just thought they were eating
24:23
organic food. We thought they were all the
24:25
same age. They were small, so we thought
24:27
they had to be in kindergarten. Looking back on
24:30
it, it doesn't look like they were normal kids. They didn't
24:32
really have friends. Abigail had bruising
24:34
on her stomach area from her stern um to waistband,
24:37
and bruising on her back from mid back
24:39
to upper buttocks, reportedly
24:42
caused by Jen Hart. For
24:48
access to exclusive photos and videos
24:50
and documents about the case, visit
24:53
glamour dot com. Slash Broken
24:55
Hearts have questions for us about
24:57
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at almermag or at Broken
25:01
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leave us a review. Broken Hearts
25:06
is a joint production between Glamour and
25:08
How Stuff Works, with new episodes
25:10
dropping every Tuesday. Broken
25:13
Hearts is co hosted and co written
25:15
by Justine Harman and Elizabeth Egan
25:18
and edited by Wendy k Nockle. Lauren
25:20
Smiley is our field reporter. Samantha
25:23
Barry is Glamour's editor in chief. Julie
25:26
Sheen and Dianna Buckman head up the
25:28
business side of this partnership. Joyce
25:31
Pandola, Pat Singer and Luke
25:33
Zeleski are a research team.
25:36
Jason Hoke is executive producer on
25:38
behalf of How Stuff Works, along
25:40
with producers Julian Weller, ben Ky
25:42
Brick and Josh Thine. Special
25:44
thanks to Jen Lance
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