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You know, I've always held
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science as sacred. I've always put my
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trust in the accepted facts. And
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what I saw last night,
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for the first time
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Hello
6:10
and welcome to the
6:15
X-Files.
6:22
That's
6:25
the EX-Files, a buffering rewatch
6:27
adventure where we are watching and discussing every episode
6:29
of the X-Files one by one spoiler
6:32
free. I am
6:35
Jenny Owen Young's
6:37
ex-wife of Kristen Russo
6:39
and I grew up watching
6:41
the X-Files and I am Kristen
6:44
Russo, guilty as charged
6:46
ex-wife of Jenny Owen Young's
6:49
and hey I've only seen 24 episodes
6:52
or some might say one complete
6:54
season of the X-Files.
6:59
Today we are talking about the season
7:02
one finale, the Erlenmeyer
7:05
flask. This is almost as exciting
7:07
as the finale episode of Angel that
7:09
was called No Place Like Blurtsclurbs.
7:12
It
7:14
has the same satisfaction
7:17
of like consonant combination
7:19
in it, Erlenmeyer flask, delicious.
7:22
The
7:25
Erlenmeyer flask is of course named
7:27
for the German chemist Emil
7:30
Erlenmeyer who lived from 1825 to 1909
7:34
and we will touch later on exactly
7:37
what
7:38
this means as far as the episode
7:40
is concerned. Are you also going to explain to everybody
7:42
what an Erlenmeyer flask is just in case they don't
7:45
know? Yeah, okay so
7:47
picture if you will me holding
7:50
up my hands parallel
7:53
to each other with vertical
7:56
perpendicular to the ground about
7:59
an inch apart. And then picture me running
8:01
them down through the air You
8:05
know about a hands length and
8:07
then angling them out like 30
8:10
degrees and then running
8:12
them down another hands length and then Putting
8:16
them
8:16
flat along the bottom picture Jenny sitting
8:19
around a table with a bunch of Like
8:23
gentlemen from the Sopranos perhaps describing
8:25
a very sexy lady. She wasn't saw
8:28
come on
8:28
Come on. Come
8:30
on. Come
8:31
on. I'm Mary. You're in the Erlenmeyer
8:35
at the bottom being at
8:37
the bottom being All
8:40
of their business Kristen I thought you were
8:42
just gonna say picture the flask emoji
8:44
that is most commonly seen everywhere
8:47
the Erlenmeyer Flask maybe that or be picture
8:49
the early Erlenmeyer flask that shows up
8:51
later in this episode Yeah, okay So
8:54
the Erlenmeyer flask was written by
8:56
Chris Carter directed by RW Goodwin
8:59
and originally aired on May 13th 1994 Wow
9:04
94 just about
9:06
to start my freshman year
9:09
in high school About
9:11
to graduate from eighth grade over here in Kristen Russo
9:13
land Big big big
9:15
big changes one month.
9:16
It's about one month after the death of Kurt
9:18
Cobain. Oh
9:20
Yeah, it's you ate yourself in time that really
9:23
situates me in time I just
9:25
pictured my entire wall of magazine
9:27
clip yeah that I had in my bedroom by
9:30
that marker
9:31
This episode Is
9:34
the one where according to IMDB
9:36
deep throat tips? Mulder off
9:39
to a critically important case Involving
9:42
a missing fugitive and the cloning
9:44
of extra terrestrial
9:47
Viruses I would say
9:49
that this is the one where there's
9:51
a fucking Alien fetus that made
9:53
Kristen Russo scream to the top of her lungs that
9:55
are television and also deep
9:57
throat died a question mark the
9:59
number photographs
10:01
that I received
10:03
in my text messages from Kristen taken
10:06
with her phone of her TV screen.
10:08
They weren't even taken by my phone. I was frozen on the
10:10
couch. I was screaming
10:13
at Avanti, did you get a picture? Did
10:15
you get a picture? As
10:18
though there were no way to
10:20
rewind. Okay. Uh,
10:24
producer Latoya Ferguson
10:27
gives this episode a scary
10:30
rating of one out of five. Trust.
10:34
Trust. No
10:37
one.
10:38
What a beautiful job
10:40
you did. I should have passed you instead of Gary Hardin.
10:43
I mean.
10:45
Listen, pal. Um,
10:48
okay, well. Oh, okay.
10:50
So before we get into the.
10:52
Deep thoughts, deep throat thoughts.
10:55
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. First
10:57
of all, Kristen, you've just completed. Watching
11:00
your first complete season of the
11:03
X-Files. I have. How
11:05
do you feel? I feel fucking great. I
11:07
feel like this episode is the episode I've been waiting for. Like,
11:09
like, you know what I mean? For me, this
11:12
was my and all respect
11:14
to the first season of this television show.
11:17
This is my premiere, you know,
11:19
like this. Yeah. For me. I this
11:22
was this had the backlighting
11:25
and the bodies floating in fluid
11:27
and the alien babies that I
11:29
have been waiting for. I am
11:31
delighted and I'm hoping
11:33
that the cost of admission of going through
11:36
some of the lower points of
11:38
season one will be well worth the
11:41
rest of my time spent here. Yeah.
11:43
Yeah. Yeah.
11:44
Tremendous. I'm so
11:46
excited that we're here. I'm so excited for
11:49
what's next.
11:51
My general. My only general note on
11:53
this episode as a standalone is I can
11:55
tell Chris Carter wrote an episode when my notes are
11:58
almost all like.
12:00
This person says this thing to this other person
12:02
instead of and then this happened There's
12:05
a lot of telling Which
12:08
you know, I think it's it's that's like a feature It's
12:12
a hallmark of
12:13
the myth arc episodes at least this early in the series
12:15
because there is so much kind of groundwork
12:19
To lay to be lain to be
12:21
laid to lay us Yeah,
12:24
well, I mean and also obviously
12:26
this episode is sort
12:28
of a You could take the pilot
12:30
and the finale and pop them
12:32
together and get some nice little dovetails,
12:35
you know
12:36
so like And
12:38
with
12:38
a pilot you need a you need a good amount of exposition
12:40
to set set us all up I was not
12:43
I did not feel that like I
12:45
mean obviously it exists on paper, but
12:47
I didn't feel it I think because so much of what's
12:49
being told in this
12:52
episode at the very least are things that
12:54
are like
12:55
Very fascinating to me They're
12:57
not like the kind of exposition where you're
12:59
like saying how this person feels about that
13:02
or what this person did before It's like when
13:04
you're giving me exposition that's explaining, you know
13:06
What two new nucleopep tides
13:08
in a fucking gene thing? Yeah, and
13:11
that like we've had this fucking tissue since 1947
13:14
and they've been injecting it into kids. I'm like,
13:17
okay I'm listening.
13:19
I am you have me I am all
13:22
ears. So I I loved this episode
13:24
obviously
13:26
We didn't even cover the episode Roland
13:28
in the in
13:28
the main feed which we talked about in
13:31
our last episode in feed but
13:33
like
13:33
coming off of You know
13:36
sort of some of the recycled Stories that
13:38
that hit towards the end of the season and then
13:40
Roland like I was definitely Primed
13:43
to be like, oh fuck. Yeah, we get aliens
13:46
and deep throat and Significant
13:48
eye contact like we get it all in this office.
13:50
I was you know, especially delighted
13:53
but I just This
13:55
is I think what I expected
13:57
both knowing of the X-Files and
13:59
also
13:59
Like when I, cause I don't know if you remember
14:01
Jenny, but when I watched the pilot of this show,
14:03
I was like, fuck yes. It was so
14:05
hard for me to not watch more immediately.
14:08
Yeah. And this is that, this
14:10
is doing that for me in every way. Yeah.
14:13
Tremendous. Yeah.
14:15
All right. I've got some like
14:17
questions right out of the gate for Chris Carter. Chris,
14:20
what's your budget for car chase? What's
14:22
your budget for boat search?
14:24
And what's your budget for human
14:27
bodies suspended in tanks of fluid?
14:30
And I think the answer to all three of these things
14:32
is through the roof.
14:33
I was going to say in the words of Lindsay
14:36
Lohan, the limit does not exist. Yeah.
14:39
Yeah. Yeah.
14:40
Considering all we've read about like every episode
14:43
seeming to be way over budget, I'm just wondering
14:45
how the series is doing at this point, although
14:47
it's a
14:48
hit. So maybe
14:51
the network is just flip nighting out.
14:54
Yeah. Yeah. Off scene, if
14:56
they did this in widescreen you could see
14:58
some of those angles you weren't supposed to see, you would
15:00
actually see everyone just flip nighting out
15:02
around the sound stage.
15:04
Yeah. I
15:07
was so excited. I was like, am I watching
15:09
the right show? Because how
15:12
excited was Avampi?
15:13
Getting a police car
15:15
chase right at the start.
15:16
She goes
15:19
right home. Honestly, every
15:21
time I walk into our living room
15:23
and Avampi's watching television, this is what
15:25
it looks like. So like when we started
15:27
this episode, I was like, oh shit, did we hit? Are
15:29
we watching like fucking 9-1-1? Like
15:32
what? Uh-huh. Yeah.
15:34
But it was really exciting when I
15:36
saw that first car fly up
15:38
into the air, I did not anticipate a second
15:41
car also flying up into the air.
15:44
Yep. Yep. Very cool chase
15:46
scene. Does every chase scene
15:48
on television involve
15:50
going through a stack of boxes
15:52
that were empty the whole time?
15:54
I think it's a really important
15:57
kind of sort of
15:59
iconic.
15:59
thing for you to really know. I
16:02
was wondering where you are and what's happening. Right.
16:04
I was wondering if it has to do with like maybe it's
16:07
easier to do like a squealing
16:09
stop when you have like something that also
16:12
covers some of the, you know what I mean? Like I
16:14
wondered if it were just for fun effect or
16:16
if there was some like practical reason. Like
16:18
when you lip sync, I'm a professional lip synchor.
16:21
And if I don't know the lyrics, then
16:24
I have my things. Like I'll flip
16:26
my hair in front of my face, you know, and everybody
16:28
thinks, oh, she's just being cool flipping her hair in front
16:30
of her face. But really, I just don't know the words.
16:33
So I just thought maybe the boxes are for when the car
16:35
forgets the words, you know.
16:37
It could be. It could be. It
16:40
definitely adds a level
16:42
of drama that
16:45
doesn't inherently exist in a car, is
16:47
pooping around. You know, I bet
16:50
those cops didn't think they were going to get bopped with their
16:52
own night sticks. Bop, bop,
16:55
bop. Fucking, I bet
16:57
you those cops didn't think that this guy was going to pull
17:00
the Taser things out of his own chest.
17:03
OK, so I did a little Googling, does removing
17:05
Taser barbs hurt? And
17:08
here is what I found from
17:11
one internet source. So I assume this is accurate.
17:15
The Taser barb was easily removed, and the patient
17:17
tolerated the procedure with no bleeding or
17:20
additional trauma noted to the surrounding soft tissues.
17:22
So I'm not really that impressed
17:25
with that. He pulled the Taser barbs out. It's
17:27
probably just like pulling your own IV out. But I
17:30
think what's notable here is that the Taser did
17:32
nothing, had absolutely no impact on
17:34
Dr. Seqare. OK, fair. He
17:37
jumps. I write big,
17:39
wily jump into
17:40
the water.
17:42
Who has anyone ever
17:44
jumped like this?
17:45
This is a jump that was invented
17:47
by stunt folk, certainly,
17:50
right? Because it looks like very dramatic and exciting.
17:53
If he was just like, whee,
17:55
frozen pose jump,
17:57
we'd be like, I'm bored. Yeah,
17:59
but it would be. much more effective.
18:01
I mean, doing a little pencil drop into the water,
18:04
much less conspicuous than this
18:06
Lylee jump.
18:07
And the cop is like, I know I
18:09
hit him. He'd be bleeding
18:12
bad, meaningful pan
18:14
down to mysterious green viscous
18:17
substance, which must be alien
18:18
blood. What's up?
18:21
Kristen,
18:23
did you notice anything special
18:25
about the credits? I didn't.
18:29
I may have the second time, but I read
18:31
what I didn't notice the first
18:33
time. Pretty
18:36
excited about this. Okay.
18:39
What does the ending card say instead
18:41
of what it normally says, which is
18:43
the truth is out there.
18:45
What does it say? And you have to
18:47
say it in the right voice.
18:50
Well what is the right voice? The voice that you
18:52
did at the top or the voice that I imagined
18:54
in my head?
18:55
The last card now says,
18:58
trust
19:01
no one.
19:04
Amazing. I actually got emotional
19:06
watching the credits. I
19:09
saw Lou's head go all squiggly
19:11
and I was like,
19:14
I have something in my eye. Okay.
19:18
Okay.
19:19
Yeah. Okay. I write in my
19:21
notes, now we are talking
19:24
X-Files after I get the green blood
19:27
pan down. Jenny,
19:30
Mulder is sleeping on the fucking couch again. I no longer
19:32
believe you that he has a bed. I think you
19:34
are absolutely leading me on. He
19:36
sleeps on the couch. That is his bedroom.
19:39
Final statement.
19:41
Hmm.
19:42
Let's
19:45
see. Okay. Okay.
19:47
Okay. I'm just checking.
19:50
I'm just checking something out really quick.
19:53
Hang on.
19:54
Okay. It's going to be a minute,
19:56
Kristen, but I promise
19:58
there's a bed.
19:59
kind of a while. Okay
20:02
great great. But it is it is
20:04
coming down the bike. The film that
20:09
he was watching the fly I think last time
20:11
he was sleeping on the couch now he's watching
20:14
Journey to the Center of the
20:15
Earth. I
20:17
would love to have the opportunity
20:19
to rent DVDs
20:21
slash VHS cassettes from Fox
20:24
Mulder you know he seems to have a good collection.
20:26
I think he's just watching it on TV. Oh
20:29
he just watched it. This had the real
20:31
the real feel of like late-night movie. Okay that's
20:34
fair situation to me. I feel like he's been asleep
20:36
on the couch for a while. Did you
20:39
notice the pillow that he was sleeping on?
20:41
No. What did I miss?
20:43
It's just a really nice it like it isn't
20:45
a Pendleton pillow but it like has like
20:48
crafted vibes like that very
20:50
very like nice around. I
20:53
asked you because Avanti noticed the pillow
20:55
and so by extension I assumed you would
20:57
have noticed the pillow. I
21:00
love that he is sleeping. How embarrassing for me.
21:02
I love that he's sleeping not with a
21:04
teddy bear but with a tiny little X-file tucked
21:06
under his arm. Do you think he like takes one a different
21:09
one home with him every night? It's
21:11
a cuddle list.
21:13
Yeah and yeah he always switches them out because
21:15
he doesn't want them to feel like
21:18
there's any kind of favoritism
21:19
going on.
21:21
Okay so ring ring ring it's deep throat and
21:23
deep throat's like are you watching
21:25
channel 8?
21:26
So Mulder immediately
21:29
switches on channel 8 and pops a VHS
21:31
in to record it because
21:34
there is no internet.
21:35
He knows if he wants to watch
21:38
it I don't know say a hundred times or
21:40
so he's gonna need his
21:42
own copy. This blends
21:44
seamlessly. It rolls right over into
21:47
an exasperated skull he's
21:49
saying you've watched this a hundred
21:52
times but Mulder can't figure out what he's supposed
21:54
to see. Oh
21:57
Scully is so annoyed right
21:59
out of the gates with the existence
22:01
of Deep Throat in any way, shape or form.
22:05
She says that Deep Throat is yanking his chain,
22:07
which I think seem like any
22:09
of our business.
22:12
But I think that Mulder makes
22:16
a good point because I also,
22:18
you know, who can tell with Deep
22:20
Throat? It's a wishy washy situation.
22:22
But I do agree with Mulder's assessment here
22:25
that like the whole Deep
22:27
Throat hides a lie
22:29
between two truths is
22:32
a thing. But that doesn't mean he would go out of his
22:34
way to call Mulder.
22:36
I mean, it wasn't like Mulder was
22:38
investigating a case and Deep Throat showed up and
22:40
like deterred him from this thing.
22:43
Like he literally was the only reason
22:45
that Mulder woke up and turned on Channel 8
22:47
and thought anything about this. So I feel like
22:49
he's got a leg to stand on. At least
22:52
one. So
22:55
they go down to the harbor carrying
22:58
the still of a guy at the crime scene
23:00
who happened to not be wearing a badge
23:02
or uniform and they're asking
23:04
the head cop,
23:06
you know, this guy, uh,
23:09
is he around and the cop
23:10
is like, there's so many people here. There's
23:13
simply so many people
23:15
at this point.
23:16
It's just it's
23:18
been 18
23:19
hours
23:20
since the man went into the water.
23:23
Just want to say that it's been 18 hours.
23:28
Are you leading us somewhere that I don't know where
23:30
you're leading us yet? No,
23:32
no, no. We'll, you know, we're just like we're just marking
23:34
time. OK, OK. The
23:36
cop catches Mulder in his lie.
23:39
I don't know why this cop even cares,
23:41
really, or would think to care. But Mulder
23:43
is like, yeah, the FBI were
23:45
here just because he matches the description of a
23:47
fugitive. And the cops like, we didn't release
23:50
the description. And then Scooby Doo and his gang
23:52
roll up, you know. But
23:55
they asked to look at the car that was involved
23:57
in this chase. It's also.
24:00
important to note that the chase
24:02
they discussed in the last scene was
24:04
like precipitated
24:07
by, is that the word? The,
24:09
like a moving violation. Like it was,
24:12
there was no crime. I mean
24:15
I guess a moving violation is a crime,
24:17
but you know what I mean? Like it was not like, this
24:19
guy like shot somebody and then fled
24:22
or like robbed a bank and then fled.
24:24
There was just a moving violation and it led to this.
24:26
Do we think that's real?
24:28
The moving violation? Yeah.
24:31
You know, Jenny, until now
24:34
I thought it was actually because of
24:36
a moving violation. I, in my mind, when
24:38
I heard that I was like, oh, this guy,
24:41
but I guess it doesn't make any sense because really what he
24:43
can't wind up, he can't wind up in a position where he's
24:45
in a hospital. So if he
24:47
was just getting pulled over by a police officer,
24:50
it's not like he has like a new identity or anything,
24:52
right? So,
24:55
so then no, then, then it can't
24:57
be, it has to be that they're, that they found out that this guy
24:59
is alive, but why would they involve the cops and
25:02
not just the feds? I don't know. I didn't think about
25:04
it. Well, maybe because
25:06
they view the cops as like expendable
25:09
foot soldiers. Right. Right. Right. And
25:12
yeah, maybe, I don't know. Maybe you'd think though,
25:14
based on the
25:14
way that crew cut man behaves
25:17
in this episode, that if they were to have found out
25:20
that this guy was alive, which
25:21
he certainly is not supposed to be, they would
25:23
have just pulled up in a very quiet
25:25
van and shot him in the head. Okay.
25:28
Yes. True. So then the question is, why was
25:31
Dr. Sequeir running? Doing
25:33
a moving violation. And running and
25:35
then running. Yeah. Like,
25:37
yeah. So if anybody knows what
25:39
we missed, please, please let
25:41
us know. This podcast is just about Jenny and I missing
25:44
things.
25:44
So it's actually probably
25:46
really entertaining because people love to, you
25:49
know, yell at us for what we
25:51
know, what we don't know and they know. So this is,
25:53
we're actually doing. I can hear the tapping
25:55
of keyboards across this great land as we
25:58
speak. All right.
25:59
Uh, okay.
26:03
So they go to see the car at the impound.
26:05
Mulder is carrying all these loose
26:08
photographs that he has printed out
26:10
stills from the news report he videotaped.
26:14
Uh,
26:15
and
26:16
oh, they notice a sticker
26:18
on the windshield in the
26:21
car on the news that's not
26:23
on the car at the impound. Uh,
26:26
and then Scully
26:28
is like, Oh, that symbol is called a caduceus.
26:31
It's the staff of Hermes. It's a, it's a
26:33
symbol adopted by medical professionals.
26:36
She,
26:37
Katie, explains Mulder.
26:39
I feel like Mulder would be familiar
26:41
with this symbol. I've seen this symbol.
26:44
Honestly, when I, because I looked up
26:46
this word based on how it was
26:48
like, I didn't even see the symbol. Like when
26:50
they, when this scene first happened for me, I didn't
26:53
see the symbol. I just heard the word and was like, Oh, I
26:55
want to see what this wild symbol is.
26:57
And I looked it up and was like, wait, that's just a doctor symbol.
27:00
Yeah. Um,
27:02
yeah. Um, Jenny,
27:05
I feel I'm as certain that Mulder
27:07
would be familiar with this as I am certain that
27:09
Scully knows the time difference between Connecticut
27:12
and California. Jenny,
27:15
I don't mean to step on your jingle
27:17
toes here, but Mulder had this picture enhanced.
27:38
The enhancement of this photo shows us
27:40
that the plates
27:42
on these cars are different.
27:45
They switched the fucking cars
27:46
and they lied about
27:48
it. Okay.
27:51
So onward to
27:53
the registered owner of this car,
27:56
Dr. Baroubi and his
27:58
100th
27:59
I just
28:02
watched, I haven't finished it yet, but I'm watching,
28:05
um, fucking, follow
28:07
the house of usher, you know, and I've had an end.
28:10
Like we're also listening to slayers and there's just
28:12
a lot of monkeys in my life right now. There's
28:14
just fucking monkeys everywhere I turn
28:17
every
28:17
which way. Uh, these monkeys
28:19
are lab monkeys.
28:21
I hate seeing lab
28:24
animals of any kind under any circumstance.
28:27
Um, but
28:29
you know what I hate even more? Scully being
28:32
a person who would stick her finger
28:34
in the cage, freaking the monkey out.
28:36
And she says, sorry, I thought they were friendly. What?
28:40
This is, uh,
28:41
just
28:45
1000% banana. It's golly as a medical doctor
28:48
need I remind you, she would not stick
28:50
her finger in a monkey
28:51
cage at a lab. It's so
28:53
funny too,
28:53
because like, if there was like a, obviously
28:56
like a plot line where, you know, she got bit
28:58
by the monkey and like there was a fear that
29:00
she had been contaminated with some of the alien
29:02
DNA or something, but there's like, I
29:05
couldn't figure out a single reason. Um, yeah,
29:08
but you would do this. Yeah. Yes. I have the
29:11
same note. Dr.
29:13
Barubi, Barubi or Ben Ruby,
29:15
Barubi, right?
29:16
Barubi. Dr. Barubi, giving
29:20
me a line that resonates
29:22
so deeply in my soul at
29:24
the end of this scene. Now, if you'll excuse
29:27
me, I have more work than time.
29:30
Yes. It hurt me to hear that. Like, Oh
29:33
yeah. And that's just, can I have that t-shirt
29:36
actually? So Mulder
29:37
proposes that
29:41
they talk to
29:43
the housekeeper that Dr. Barubi says uses
29:46
this car sometimes and Scully
29:48
is like,
29:49
I'm out. Deep throat
29:52
can
29:53
suck a dick. Sounds like that's
29:55
what he was going to do anyway.
29:56
Uh, and
29:59
then she
29:59
goes on to say, who is this deepthroat
30:02
character? I mean, we don't know anything about
30:04
him. What his
30:05
name is, what he does. He's in a delicate
30:07
position. He has access to information
30:10
and indiscretion could expose him.
30:11
He don't know that this isn't just a game with him.
30:14
He's toying with you, rationing
30:16
out the facts.
30:16
Do you think he does it because he gets off
30:19
on it? No.
30:21
I think he does it because you do.
30:23
And then she storms
30:26
off into the ladies room as
30:28
so many of us have on so
30:30
many an occasion, casting
30:34
one last scathing
30:36
glance back at Mulder over her shoulder
30:39
before she flounces
30:41
through the door. Yeah,
30:42
but she's like angry. She's
30:44
also like a little
30:46
turned on, you know, like she just she
30:49
just talked about how fucking Mulder
30:51
gets turned on by the
30:53
fucking bullshit that deepthroat
30:56
pulls. So I just feel like
30:58
maybe she's angry, but also
31:00
a little something else that maybe
31:02
she can't quite put her finger on, you
31:04
know, or maybe she can. Speaking
31:08
of putting fingers on things,
31:11
Mulder's heading into his
31:13
building when who should appear from the
31:17
darkening night
31:20
Christmas tale that involves deepthroat
31:22
and Mulder. Yeah,
31:23
yeah, yeah. Calling it
31:25
a night, Mr. Mulder. Mulder
31:28
says, my mother usually likes me home
31:30
before the streetlights come on,
31:32
which is
31:33
flirting. Oh, there's
31:35
deeply, deeply flirting
31:38
with deep throat from
31:40
day one says,
31:42
okay, okay, hold on now. Before
31:45
we go all flirting all the time,
31:47
I would like to say that I was pretty stoked
31:50
that Mulder actually
31:53
took some of what Scully said into this scene
31:55
with him. You know what I mean? Like he's
31:57
been defending deep throat
31:59
up and down.
31:59
all season long and it was nice that
32:02
he took some of that that scully
32:04
doubt with him and throw it back in
32:06
Deep Throat's face like I
32:08
just want you to know I'm not turned on by this
32:11
actually Deep
32:12
Throat.
32:15
Did you ever do you recall in the Sopranos
32:18
when Tony has been at
32:20
therapy with Dr. Melfi talking
32:23
about his frustrations with his aging mother
32:25
and like wanting to like
32:27
needing to figure out
32:30
a nursing home
32:31
like living situation for her because she has become
32:34
a little bit of a danger to
32:36
herself but she's
32:38
like very stubborn and she's just like really
32:41
she's a pretty unpleasant person
32:43
at least when you meet her in the show and
32:48
Dr. Melfi is like I know I know
32:51
seniors who are inspired and
32:53
inspiring and then she like says
32:55
a bunch of other stuff about you know like how like you
32:58
know maybe she just needs
33:00
this or maybe like this environment will be good
33:02
for whatever maybe it'll help her like be
33:04
less miserable 1000% of the time and then
33:08
later in the episode Tony is like having a conversation
33:10
with his mother which very quickly escalates
33:13
into a fight and then he just yells in her
33:15
face I know seniors who are inspired
33:17
and inspiring. He's
33:18
so mad and it's
33:21
uh I just really love when you see
33:24
when you see characters have
33:26
a conversation in an
33:27
episode and then later it like plays
33:30
it like you see that it has stayed with him totally
33:33
in either a very effective way like in this
33:36
instance or in a totally ineffective
33:38
way like Tony in the Sopranos.
33:42
Yeah these I
33:44
think that's real life I mean we all do that
33:46
right somebody says something to you that like chews
33:49
in on your brain and then it comes back out of your
33:51
mouth later. I love
33:54
this volley that they have
33:56
where Deep Throat is like I
33:58
fear you've become too.
33:59
dependent on me and what he means is like
34:02
Mulder isn't even doing his own work anymore he's just waiting
34:04
for
34:04
Deep Throat to show up with information and
34:07
Mulder's
34:07
like maybe it's you who've
34:10
become too dependent on me, my
34:12
willingness to play your games. Who
34:16
needs who more?
34:18
Deep Throat or Mulder?
34:20
This is another I feel like
34:23
hallmark of Chris Carter episodes.
34:26
episodes that are worded
34:29
like 20%
34:30
more formally than
34:33
would occur in real life.
34:36
Maybe it's you who's become too dependent
34:38
on me on
34:40
my willingness to play your games.
34:46
Contrary to what Deep Throat says at the end of this
34:49
episode he says don't give up on
34:51
this one trust me you've
34:54
never been closer.
34:55
Just
34:57
when I thought I was out
34:59
they pulled me back in. Dr.
35:05
Peruvian more work than time still
35:07
at the lab. Someone this man
35:09
doesn't even have time to flick a
35:12
light switch he is working in
35:14
a lab with absolutely no lights
35:16
on the sun is down how can you
35:19
even see what's under the microscope my
35:21
guy. This is so
35:23
relatable though do you ever just like look up
35:25
and you're sitting in the dark doing your work and you're like oh
35:28
fuck how did we how did this happen
35:31
I've done it again
35:32
but I'm staring at a well
35:35
lit computer screen. That's true that's true not
35:37
a dark microscope. I guess
35:40
microscopes sometimes have self-relating
35:42
light at the plate or whatever.
35:45
Also who knows maybe the alien
35:47
DNA is you know in kin.
35:49
Bioluminescent yeah yeah. Crew
35:53
Cat Man busts into
35:55
the office and
35:58
he asks if this guy.
35:59
Sakari
36:01
or Sakare, they say his name different 47
36:04
times in this episode, is alive
36:06
and asks if he contacted
36:07
Birubi and
36:09
then he kills, then
36:12
he kills him. So,
36:13
Kristen, that's really important
36:16
and good of you to note. However,
36:19
can I backpedal for one second
36:21
and tell you something I recently learned about? Please.
36:24
So we mentioned bioluminescence. Okay, yes.
36:26
A couple times on this show, as a matter of
36:28
fact.
36:29
Uh-uh. Uh-uh. I
36:31
recently was at a science center
36:33
with my beautiful child so he could
36:35
see sharks and stuff. And
36:38
I learned, somehow I've missed this my
36:40
whole life.
36:41
41 years and nobody ever told
36:43
me about biofluorescent. Wow. Fucking
36:46
squeaked in a 41 years the day before
36:48
her 42nd birthday. I'm
36:52
simply 41 years young, unlike
36:54
some people. But
36:58
did you know that biofluorescence is a
37:00
thing and it's different from bioluminescence?
37:03
Biofluorescent plants and organisms absorb
37:06
low wavelength or dim light that
37:08
emit high wavelength light that
37:10
makes the creatures glow
37:11
against a dark background. Isn't
37:14
that cool? And so bio,
37:16
that's biofluorescence? Uh-huh. And
37:19
bioluminescence is like a
37:22
substance that glows. It
37:25
doesn't need to absorb light, it's just on its
37:28
own like a fucking glow stick. Unlike
37:31
biofluorescence, where an organism
37:33
emits light upon excitation by an external
37:36
light source, bioluminescence is generated
37:38
by a chemical or biological reaction created within
37:40
the organism's body. Similar
37:43
to the reaction, this site says, that
37:45
you witness when cracking a glow stick. Oh
37:48
my god, I'm a scientist actually.
37:51
He's over here like a glow stick and then
37:53
the article is like a glow
37:55
stick. Paging, Dr. Russo.
37:58
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Okay, so...
41:15
Dr. Bre... it's really important to note this exchange,
41:18
where Dr. Bre was like, I must get back to my work,
41:20
I must get back to my work, and Crew Cup Man is like,
41:24
I'm afraid...
41:25
meaningful pause... your
41:29
work is done.
41:31
There's just like some real... there's
41:34
some real bat-cracking going on in this
41:36
episode. Also, I just feel like
41:38
if you're going to then, like, slowly
41:42
wrap gauze around someone's neck and throw them
41:44
out the window, like, this is a line
41:46
that I would think you'd say before you shoot somebody,
41:48
you know? I'm afraid your work hair is done. Boom.
41:51
Bang. Bang! Not like,
41:53
I'm afraid your work hair is done. I'm afraid your work hair is done.
41:59
Okay, stay
42:02
still be
42:02
quiet shut up monkeys, you know the monkeys
42:04
are okay, let me fucking the latch on
42:06
this window
42:11
Okay, and
42:13
Sproing
42:17
wow,
42:18
that's what I've always wanted a day. Oh great.
42:20
Yeah, welcome to Jenny
42:23
own young Foley hour Uh
42:27
It's funny it's very funny. Okay, so
42:29
back at the harbor
42:31
Kristen they're calling off the search.
42:33
It's been okay.
42:34
Okay
42:36
three days
42:39
They they finally give up and
42:42
and scoot their little boats out of this area
42:44
of the harbor and dr Sequeira's little head
42:46
immediately pops up out of the water looking like Nev
42:48
Campbell and Denise Richards on the wild things movies
42:50
poster
42:52
Kristen
42:53
if he can breathe underwater as we learn later
42:56
Why didn't he go? literally
42:59
anywhere else while underwater
43:02
and get out
43:03
of the fucking water Before
43:05
three days had elapsed imagine
43:07
all the harbor bacteria
43:09
that has been absorbed through that bullet
43:11
wound Maybe maybe it's
43:13
like, you know that fantasy that some people
43:16
have like who would go to your funeral You
43:18
know like like you want to be able to be there.
43:20
He's like who would search for
43:22
me if I were Wow
43:25
three different squads searching
43:27
for me I
43:30
also read that this actor
43:33
who plays six a car cicares
43:35
a car II whatever Simon or Webb
43:37
is
43:40
Absolutely terrified of water and had
43:42
to do yes scenes So,
43:44
you know hat tip to him for
43:46
this and also when he looks really afraid he
43:48
actually is that's actually is an acting so Okay,
43:54
um I say in my no
43:57
hear that Scully and Mulder are now crunching
43:59
through some
43:59
glass at the monkey lab. They're like,
44:02
oh, what a beautiful autumn day.
44:05
I love walking through the
44:06
woods. Crunch, crunch,
44:09
crunch in her heels. Oh, Mulder
44:12
is, Jenny, Mulder
44:14
is touching every
44:16
single thing in the room
44:19
with his bare hands. He's
44:20
like, is this happening? Is this happening?
44:26
Yeah. Now listen,
44:30
how many Erlenmeyer flasks do
44:32
you currently have in your lab marked purity
44:35
control? Sadly, none, but
44:37
that's about to change.
44:39
Good, good, good, good. And you?
44:43
I am actually not at liberty to say.
44:47
So was Barubie leaving? Did
44:50
he put the fucking password on the
44:52
bottom of the Erlenmeyer flask because
44:55
just in case. Was
44:59
he forgetful? No, I think it's like, I
45:01
don't think he's forgetful. I think it's just what
45:03
the like the code word for
45:06
the project. So he was like labeling it for,
45:09
it
45:09
just feels like if that's the code word that
45:11
gets you admission to touch the alien
45:14
baby that well, but then you don't have to know where
45:16
to go. And then
45:18
you have to be a medical doctor. You need one ID badge
45:24
stating that you are a medical daughter. Medical
45:28
daughter, medical daughter,
45:33
medical daughters. They're just like sons,
45:35
but
45:35
they're girls, medically.
45:37
I don't know if you can believe this, Jenny,
45:40
but sometimes you actually can be a father of a
45:42
medical daughter. So
45:44
imagine being the medical father
45:47
of a medical daughter. So in
45:50
order to get into
45:52
the right spot, you need an ID. You
45:54
can be any kind of medical doctor, and then you get an
45:57
ID
45:58
card where you have a.
45:59
a photo where you just look like a total
46:02
smoldering smoke show.
46:05
She's got, Scully has yet
46:07
another identification
46:10
badge
46:11
where she just looks like she
46:14
is professionally modeling. I
46:16
mean, Zenny, if she didn't have
46:18
a whole bunch of those to offer up, no
46:20
one would ever know she was a lady, so it's
46:22
important. Okay. Okay.
46:25
All right.
46:26
So we find out that,
46:29
which doesn't seem to be a big deal to Scully,
46:31
that Barubie was working
46:33
on the Human Genome Project, which
46:35
is the mapping of human genes. Mulder's
46:38
like, of course I know what that is. It's perhaps
46:40
the most ambitious scientific endeavor in
46:42
the history of mankind. Also
46:45
I feel like this is,
46:47
correct me if I, how did you
46:49
respond to this? Because I heard it and I was like, oh yeah, the human
46:51
genome project, why are they explaining this? We
46:54
all know. We all know. But
46:56
you have to remember. We also all know what
46:59
zeros and ones are.
47:00
We do.
47:01
But also the Human Genome
47:03
Project started in 1990, so it has been something that
47:05
has been
47:09
in our consciousness for a long
47:11
time. How long has it been since 1990, like 10
47:13
years? Yeah, about 10
47:15
years.
47:15
So, you know.
47:18
But I think then this
47:21
was like,
47:22
this is also, I wanted to say this about this episode.
47:24
I think something that I really fucking love
47:26
about this episode and some of the other episodes of
47:28
this season are when you can
47:31
really see the science that's happening
47:33
and the conversations that are happening in real time
47:35
and how they're being threaded through the storylines.
47:38
I think that's very fun. Like
47:41
these writers are living in a time where they
47:43
are mapping. The Human Genome Project went
47:45
from 90 to 2003. It
47:49
was 2003 when we were like, we got it.
47:51
We got the map, you know? And so like, this
47:54
is a fucking massive deal in
47:56
like ways that could be really
47:58
incredible and so powerful.
47:59
And also that can feel, especially if you
48:03
dabble in the land of sci-fi, you're
48:05
like, oh, what comes after
48:07
this? Where do we go
48:09
after this? And using that in storylines
48:12
for shows like this, I just love that. I love
48:14
when people are thinking these thoughts over the
48:16
bar table and talking about this shit,
48:19
and then they're also putting it in television shows where
48:21
aliens exist.
48:22
Yes. Mm-hmm.
48:24
Mm-hmm. Okay. And I know that
48:26
Kelly's like, I can see the pieces of what we're doing here,
48:29
but I'm really not seeing the connection.
48:32
And Mulder's like, listen, maybe we're not seeing it because
48:34
it cannot be seen in an
48:36
obvious way. Take this Erlenmeyer
48:38
flask. This is what is called an Erlenmeyer
48:40
flask. Take it, please. And
48:42
take it to... Can you find... First you
48:45
Erlen, then you Meyer. First you Erlen, then you Meyer. Can you please find
48:47
a lady who you might also want to flirt with? And
48:50
can you guys just do a little lady on lady
48:52
science so you can find out what's in the flask? Scully
48:55
is like, if this is monkey pee,
48:58
you're on your own.
48:59
Honestly, same. That's very cute.
49:03
Not monkey pee, but they're quips.
49:05
Yeah.
49:07
In case you're wondering if one
49:10
of us is 42 and the other one is about to
49:12
be 42, I will say
49:14
that my first note when we get to Berube's house
49:17
is, Terrence, we love
49:19
this sage exterior paint
49:21
with the dark green trim. I absolutely love it. I
49:23
took it down. It's for future house
49:25
color combos. Terrence
49:28
has a beautiful house. Yeah.
49:32
Well, I mean,
49:33
he is a very important scientist with more
49:36
work than time. And
49:39
he employs a housekeeper. Yeah. He
49:41
never gets to hang out in his house together. He's
49:45
never been to that house,
49:46
actually.
49:48
Poor Terry. Okay, so Mulder
49:51
does a little B and E and then we cut to Georgetown
49:53
University Microbiology Department.
49:56
One good doctor deserves another.
49:59
Don't mind. if I do, Dr. Ann Carpenter.
50:02
I'm sorry,
50:05
but like,
50:06
there was flirting between Lazard
50:10
and Scully a couple episodes ago.
50:13
Okay, nothing like this. It
50:16
has not been since Felicity Huffman and
50:18
Scully were naked checking each other for
50:20
worms that I
50:23
have seen. I just want everyone to know that I
50:25
witnessed a full spectrum of human
50:27
emotion
50:29
just go
50:31
through Jenny's entire face. Really,
50:35
you took me on a ride.
50:36
That was the coming
50:38
of age story if ever I've seen one
50:41
or experienced one. But
50:44
these two
50:45
are flirting from the moment they meet until
50:48
the moment one of them sadly perishes.
50:51
Kristin!
50:54
What the hell does we've
50:56
come a long way from Colonel Mustard
50:59
in the den with the rope, haven't we,
51:01
mean? I don't know what it
51:03
means! It's so funny. I'll
51:05
try to figure out what it means in a second, but I just moved aside
51:08
so Jenny could see that on the chair behind me is
51:10
the board game clue. So
51:13
I actually, yeah, I actually
51:15
have direct knowledge of this. I mean, I guess
51:19
she's just saying like, wow, back
51:21
in the olden days we just had to guess who did
51:23
a crime, but now you can bring me this Erlenmeyer
51:25
flask and I can do science on it
51:28
and we can find out more. Um, okay,
51:31
okay, okay. So Dr. Carpenter is so stoked.
51:37
We love a Ladies in STEM
51:40
scene no matter where we get it, but
51:43
like these two geeking out
51:45
over this bacteria in a virus, in
51:47
a bacteria in a virus or whatever the fuck they're
51:49
looking at is really good to me. Um,
51:53
she says it's the size of bacteria, but like
51:55
nothing she's ever seen. And then
51:57
she says we could
51:59
do a freeze fracture.
52:01
if you don't mind waiting.
52:03
Wink, wink, wink. Nudge,
52:05
nudge, wink, wink. But what will
52:07
we do while they freeze and fracture?
52:11
It's none
52:13
of our business. It is none of our business.
52:17
Okay, so at the
52:20
at Terrence Barubie's home, Mulder
52:22
finds
52:23
the only phone number that Terrence
52:25
Barubie has ever called. Just
52:27
over and over and over and over and over
52:29
again. The only time he's ever gone home is to
52:31
call this phone number and then leave again. That
52:33
was sad for this man. You
52:36
know what? He fucked up monkey. So he's
52:38
actually fine.
52:40
Yeah, okay.
52:43
Oh my gosh, this is so okay. So Mulder
52:45
calls his FBI pal to get
52:48
info about this number, but then Dr. Sequeir
52:50
calls this number and he's in a phone booth
52:52
and he's fading fast and he passes out before
52:55
he can tell Mulder where he is and the guy who
52:57
finds him is like, hello, I'm
52:59
hanging up on you. I will tell you where your
53:01
friend is. I have to call an ambulance.
53:03
Friends, if you show up to a pay phone
53:06
and a man has collapsed and is oozing
53:09
green blood and there's another man on the other
53:11
end saying, what street? Where do
53:13
I go? You just say, this
53:15
is the street and then you hang up and you bring the alien.
53:18
And then
53:18
you call the ambulance. Yeah, actually, honestly,
53:20
if you see anybody oozing green, you should
53:23
just yell the street and then run as fast
53:25
as you can. But Jenny,
53:27
I do think that the only reason that Crew Cut Man
53:29
does not shoot Mulder is because
53:31
this dude is horrible at dealing
53:34
with emergencies and so does not tell
53:36
Mulder where Sequeir
53:38
is. Sequeir.
53:40
Sequeir. They say it differently.
53:43
Sequeir. Only everybody
53:45
says Sequeir and Berube except
53:48
Jerry Harden.
53:49
Who says Sequeir and Berube.
53:51
Okay, we, Danny calls back.
53:57
And
54:01
Mulder, this is what's amazing to me, crew cut
54:03
dude in his car, he was waiting
54:05
basically, at least
54:06
I presume, he was waiting to see if Mulder
54:09
got information about the whereabouts of the care.
54:12
But
54:13
he doesn't. And then crew cut man
54:15
doesn't care.
54:15
He doesn't care about any other information. He takes
54:17
the fucking headset off right when Danny is like, So,
54:20
Zeus storage, 1616
54:22
Pandora Street, it
54:24
just seems like the crew cut man would also fucking
54:26
care if Mulder was gonna find five dudes
54:29
floating in liquid
54:30
in a storage space. But,
54:32
whatever.
54:34
Alright Jenny, are you ready for this fucking ambulance
54:37
ride of death? Because, if you're
54:40
an EMT, you better be careful. I'm
54:42
telling you what. Sweet, gentle
54:44
EMT is doing their best with a green
54:47
bleeding extraterrestrial, terrible
54:50
news. They do a needily decompression.
54:55
And he starts emitting a toxic gas
54:57
that
54:58
fucks them up.
55:01
And then he exits the ambulance and flees.
55:03
And Chris and I believe you have some information
55:05
about the inspo
55:06
for this particular
55:07
feature of the episode. Yes, in
55:09
the production documents from producer Latoya
55:11
Ferguson, there was a link that simply said WTF?
55:15
And it linked to the Wikipedia
55:17
article for a woman
55:19
named Gloria Ramirez. That
55:22
is who this sort of scene
55:25
was inspired from. Gloria Ramirez
55:28
lived from 1963 to 1994. She
55:32
lived in Riverside, California, and she was dubbed,
55:34
I did not dub her this, but she was dubbed the
55:36
toxic lady by the media.
55:39
I didn't, don't look at me. I'm just
55:41
reading the words. Several hospital
55:44
workers became ill after airborne exposure
55:46
to her body and blood. She was
55:48
admitted to the ER after suffering
55:51
from late stage cervical cancer. And
55:53
while treating her, several hospital
55:56
workers fainted. Others experienced symptoms
55:58
such as shortness of breath and muscles.
55:59
spasms, five required hospitalizations,
56:02
and one of them remained in intensive care for two
56:05
weeks.
56:06
The
56:08
initial assessment of this was that it was mass
56:10
hysteria, but actually after
56:12
an investigation, it was proposed
56:15
and then later confirmed that Ramirez
56:17
had actually been self-administering dimethyl
56:20
sulfoxide as a treatment for pain,
56:23
and that converted into dimethyl
56:26
sulfate,
56:26
which is extremely poisonous and
56:29
a
56:29
highly carcinogenic alkylating
56:32
agent via a series of
56:37
chemical reactions in the emergency room. She
56:39
was not allegedly an alien,
56:42
but the things coming from her
56:44
body seriously harmed the medical
56:49
professionals around her.
56:50
It's not good. No. Not
56:53
good. Pretty fucking wild.
56:55
Back at Georgetown University, Dana
56:58
Scully in silhouette and in
57:00
profile calling Mulder.
57:03
She was like, he's going to love this. He
57:05
won't be able to see me, but he'll be able to tell how
57:08
I look somehow. I
57:10
cannot get enough of this
57:12
tiny little scene where
57:15
she's like,
57:16
no. She's trying to tell Mulder what she's
57:18
discovered, and she's so excited.
57:19
We've all been- We've
57:22
all
57:22
been- We've all been waiting for this, Jenny. We've been waiting
57:24
for this moment for the whole series.
57:27
She's been waiting to have these words
57:29
to tell Mulder so Mulder can finally smooch
57:32
her. She's finally gotten here.
57:34
She's like, I may be understanding
57:36
the strangest Mulder bacteria like this
57:39
hasn't existed for millions of years. Don't
57:42
you remember saying millions of
57:44
years? Not she gets so dramatic. Not since
57:46
before our ancestors first crawled
57:49
out of the sea.
57:49
Are you their mother? Mulder,
57:52
do you hear me? She's like, yes,
57:54
Kelly, keep up the good work. And she literally
57:57
is like, click.
57:59
The scoff, the
58:02
incredulity. I
58:04
did everything he wanted and he still was
58:06
lucky. It's
58:07
weird. I feel significantly more
58:09
seen by Dr. Ann Carpenter
58:12
and I've only known her for
58:13
a matter of hours. Yes.
58:17
Okay, over to Zeus storage.
58:20
Huge news, Kristen. There are bodies in tanks.
58:22
There are humanoids in liquid.
58:26
They have all miraculously
58:29
been positioned for modesty. What luck.
58:32
I don't even remember where I read
58:33
this. It was probably in La Toya's notes, like cribbed from
58:36
one of the like behind the scenes in the X-Files. But there
58:38
was this quote that was like,
58:40
once the ladies found out there were
58:42
naked men, there were many ladies on set
58:45
the day this was filmed. And I was like, no
58:47
way. Okay,
58:49
gentlemen, I don't like
58:51
to see the footage.
58:55
Women notoriously love to
58:57
see
58:58
flaccid penises floating in the
59:01
number one thing that will draw them to set. That
59:06
all said, this scene is stunning.
59:09
Like I was as excited as
59:12
I was about the car chase scene for
59:14
different reasons in this scene. This is like a beautiful.
59:16
The lighting is beautiful.
59:18
The
59:18
way that these they have divers. These are
59:21
divers in these tanks so that they can
59:23
like stay underwater for a long time. They didn't
59:25
have to like make something fake. These are real humans
59:28
down under the water. I
59:30
love this. I again, just sort of like
59:33
going into season two.
59:34
I want more
59:36
of like this vibe. This is what I picture
59:39
when I picture the X-Files.
59:42
Yeah, this feels, you know, revelatory.
59:45
This feels like a season finale
59:48
moment. This feels like
59:51
it's it's like eerie and beautiful. And
59:53
the scope that is implied
59:55
by
59:56
like, yes, and the events of this
59:58
episode, it's just like you're really. starting to feel like
1:00:01
this thing is like really
1:00:03
big. Yeah.
1:00:05
Yeah. And goes deep.
1:00:08
Speaking of going deep,
1:00:11
back at the Georgetown. Oh my goodness. I'm
1:00:13
sorry. I'm really sorry. I there
1:00:15
was nothing else I could do.
1:00:18
Scully fell asleep on the
1:00:19
couch. Hell yeah. She did.
1:00:22
And okay, so Dr.
1:00:24
Carpenter comes in and she's like,
1:00:26
you're a lady who knows about molecular
1:00:28
biology. So I don't even
1:00:30
have to tell you where you're looking at. Why don't you tell me
1:00:32
and Scully's like genes. And then they have a science
1:00:35
discussion and they get turned on and
1:00:37
it's great. Um, and we,
1:00:39
but wouldn't somebody
1:00:42
who is a medical doctor understand
1:00:45
about
1:00:46
nucleotides already, maybe
1:00:48
about nucleotides, but I don't
1:00:50
know if Scully would, I
1:00:53
mean, you know, this idea
1:00:55
that for nucleotides exist in DNA
1:00:57
and every living thing is created
1:00:59
from the four basic building blocks. Wild.
1:01:03
I don't know. It's wild. It's, I
1:01:05
needed the information. So maybe they were just
1:01:08
being kind in case anyone else was in
1:01:10
the room. And no, sure,
1:01:12
sure, sure, sure. Um,
1:01:14
but let's listen to, uh, the
1:01:17
end of this conversation
1:01:18
between Dr. Carpenter. Um, and
1:01:20
I have to say, this might be none of your business, but
1:01:23
let's listen to them. Have the rest
1:01:25
of this exchange.
1:01:26
Normally
1:01:28
we'd find no gaps
1:01:30
in the sequence,
1:01:31
but with these bacteria, we do.
1:01:34
Why is that?
1:01:36
I don't know why, but I
1:01:38
tell you under any other circumstances,
1:01:41
my first call would have been to the government.
1:01:44
What exactly did you find?
1:01:48
DNA nucleotide,
1:01:51
a new base pair.
1:01:54
Agent Scully,
1:01:55
what you are looking at exists
1:01:59
nowhere in.
1:01:59
nature.
1:02:01
It would have to be by definition
1:02:04
extraterrestrial.
1:02:10
That feeling when your
1:02:12
crush says it would have to be
1:02:14
by definition extraterrestrial.
1:02:17
Oh,
1:02:18
my God.
1:02:22
I simply can't handle it. I can't. I
1:02:25
cannot handle it. And like this, here's the thing. I could
1:02:27
not handle the scene between these two women. Nor
1:02:30
could I handle the extraterrestrial
1:02:33
discovery that is scientifically
1:02:35
being told by a scientist to
1:02:37
scully because that's
1:02:40
how it has to happen for her to believe right?
1:02:43
Yeah, then Jenny, the next fucking
1:02:45
moment I'm like recovering from this. The
1:02:48
next moment we go to zoo storage where Mulder
1:02:50
is walking outside is chased by men and suddenly runs
1:02:53
and single swoops his whole
1:02:55
body over a huge fence.
1:02:57
I'm
1:02:58
unwell in my
1:03:01
in my body and my soul.
1:03:03
It is legitimate.
1:03:05
It is good. And
1:03:10
I'm breathing and it's very chill.
1:03:15
Um, Scully calls Mulder to
1:03:17
find out where the fuck he's been all night. And
1:03:20
he's very cryptic and says he had
1:03:22
a situation. Okay. Um,
1:03:25
she she tries again. She's like,
1:03:27
I didn't get him the first time that I'm
1:03:28
gonna here we go. I'm gonna use the word
1:03:30
he needs extraterrestrial.
1:03:33
She
1:03:35
I'm sorry.
1:03:36
My next note is it's not funny,
1:03:38
but I'm gonna read it to you anyway. Because I write
1:03:41
that Scully says
1:03:42
they're saying it could be extraterrestrial and then that
1:03:44
Mulder says you need to come
1:03:46
over here because I have to show you something and then
1:03:48
underneath that and parenthetical I wrote
1:03:51
his boner.
1:04:03
So, Skully
1:04:05
rolls up to Zeus storage. It
1:04:08
seems
1:04:09
like a mistake that Mulder left
1:04:12
the storage place and
1:04:15
then came back but not until hours
1:04:17
later and has not gone back inside
1:04:19
before Skully arrives. And
1:04:22
she's like, I just, they
1:04:24
have this exchange that we opened the episode with
1:04:27
about like Skully being like, I'm sorry.
1:04:29
And Mulder's like, it's okay.
1:04:32
I feel
1:04:34
like we've had 24 episodes and there have been
1:04:36
plenty of times where Mulder was perhaps
1:04:39
barking up the wrong alien tree. So
1:04:42
you know, I appreciate this very nice apology,
1:04:45
but Mulder never
1:04:47
apologized and her apologizes. And
1:04:52
Skully has a really big moment for her. And
1:04:54
in which she says that she has always
1:04:56
held science as sacred.
1:04:59
She's always put her trust in accepted facts.
1:05:04
But for the first time in her life, she doesn't know what to believe.
1:05:08
What do you think about that?
1:05:11
I'm pretty into it. I really didn't think we'd get
1:05:13
here. I did not think that
1:05:15
Dana Skully would be carrying
1:05:18
a preserved alien fetus in
1:05:20
a brown cardboard box under her arm by
1:05:23
the end of season one. I did not. I
1:05:25
really did not. I am delighted. On
1:05:27
your window card. Yeah. I
1:05:29
mean, because like, you know, I
1:05:31
know that Skully, I mean, clearly she'll have
1:05:34
to continue to be a skeptic in
1:05:36
some way, shape or form. But the fact that we already
1:05:38
have Skully knowing that there
1:05:41
is an alien fucking fetus preserved,
1:05:44
like that is pretty massive.
1:05:47
And I like it. I'm
1:05:49
happy. And I love this exchange. I
1:05:51
think, you know, I mean, I think that
1:05:53
we've talked about the fact that in our
1:05:56
opinion, or at least I'll say in mine, this season
1:05:58
was too long. many episodes,
1:06:00
they had to recycle too many ideas, but if
1:06:02
you follow the best points of the season,
1:06:06
like, and and
1:06:07
set them up so that this is earned, this
1:06:09
is an amazing moment. Like, this
1:06:12
is really
1:06:13
what we've been reaching for and what Mulder's
1:06:15
been reaching for
1:06:16
for a very long time, and I think it's good
1:06:19
and great. And
1:06:22
I also would like
1:06:23
to say that in the middle of
1:06:25
this clip that we played up at
1:06:27
the top of the episode, same thing happens.
1:06:31
Scully says, I
1:06:33
should know by now to trust your instincts.
1:06:36
Debatable.
1:06:36
Sidebar. Mulder says,
1:06:39
why?
1:06:40
Nobody else does. And
1:06:42
Scully smiles a smile that
1:06:44
is so fucking radiant,
1:06:47
and they look into each other's eyes,
1:06:49
and they fall in love just a little bit more.
1:06:52
They make, oh my god,
1:06:53
a significant eye contact.
1:06:56
Hit that jingle.
1:07:01
God bless us, everyone. Oh,
1:07:04
Jenny, crew cut man
1:07:06
carried away those tanks, he just put them all in his van,
1:07:08
he drove away. How was that?
1:07:10
By himself. That van was
1:07:13
not big, I'm confused.
1:07:13
Yeah,
1:07:16
they probably just,
1:07:18
like, destroyed, like, they probably just got these guys
1:07:21
out of the tanks, killed them all, and dumped
1:07:23
all the water. Like, what did they, I don't know what the cleanup was,
1:07:25
but it probably was
1:07:26
guys in hazmat suits that will never
1:07:28
speak to anyone about what they've done.
1:07:30
They're gone. Yeah, yeah.
1:07:32
And it kind of doesn't, I mean, also
1:07:34
something nice about this episode, I think, is that it kind of
1:07:36
doesn't matter that they're gone for
1:07:38
Scully, right? Like, it ultimately, you
1:07:40
know, most other episodes Scully doesn't see the
1:07:43
thing, and then she doesn't believe, but in this instance,
1:07:45
it doesn't matter that they're gone. She
1:07:48
ultimately believes that they were there, so
1:07:50
that's
1:07:50
also nice.
1:07:53
I gassed. I
1:07:55
gassed. When deep throat water. Was that
1:07:57
dad showed up?
1:07:59
never shows up when Scully is there. Never!
1:08:02
And I was like,
1:08:03
oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, they're in the same room. What's
1:08:05
gonna happen? Holy shit.
1:08:09
He calls her Miss. Well, there's like, Gully. Dad.
1:08:13
Dad, I was chased. And he was like, if
1:08:15
you were chased,
1:08:15
you'd be dead.
1:08:17
They wanted to kill you. We
1:08:20
wouldn't be having this conversation. They're standing
1:08:22
in the room where the first human-alien
1:08:25
hybrid was made.
1:08:27
Why not?
1:08:28
Deep Throat is telling them so
1:08:30
many things. They're
1:08:33
getting such an info dump, and Scully's like,
1:08:36
there's just one thing I don't understand. Just
1:08:38
one thing? Scully? There
1:08:41
are a lot of things I don't understand. I don't
1:08:43
know. I mean, they got this alien baby. They
1:08:46
used its tissue. They made a human-alien
1:08:48
hybrid. Six terminally ill patients
1:08:50
signed up to get these transplants,
1:08:53
and all six of them, they began to recover
1:08:56
because extraterrestrials fucking
1:08:58
don't get cancer. You know what I mean? Extraterrestrial.
1:09:01
Incredible immune system. They
1:09:05
also developed inhuman strength and
1:09:07
the ability to breathe underwater.
1:09:10
Why not?
1:09:11
Why the fuck not?
1:09:12
So we've talked about this, like, you know, Seqir
1:09:15
was running from the
1:09:17
fact that he was never supposed
1:09:19
to survive. The
1:09:22
government, the black ops, whoever the
1:09:24
fuck is doing this shit,
1:09:25
didn't give a fuck about curing
1:09:28
terminally ill patients. Of course they
1:09:30
didn't. They just wanted the science.
1:09:33
They wanted the tech. They wanted to know that they
1:09:35
had the abilities to use them probably
1:09:37
for forces of evil in the future should
1:09:39
they so need them. But
1:09:42
Dr. Barubie was friends
1:09:44
with Seqir. Maybe they were
1:09:46
smooching, and so he warned him,
1:09:49
and that's why he didn't get killed.
1:09:51
Okay, I mean,
1:09:53
when Seqir calls Barubie's
1:09:55
house, he does say Terry. Everyone
1:09:57
else calls him Terrence. So it's a... point
1:10:01
to you perhaps some intimacy. Yeah
1:10:04
and maybe that's why like you know he had that
1:10:06
big beautiful house
1:10:07
is for you know they
1:10:09
had like wine there and they cooked each other dinner. And
1:10:12
maybe the reason
1:10:14
that Peruvian is so absorbed in his work is because his
1:10:17
lover is missing
1:10:18
you know. Okay
1:10:20
okay okay.
1:10:22
After we miss Lyle and fucking
1:10:25
you know what I mean like after we miss the gay lovers
1:10:27
in shapes I just now
1:10:30
have to be very careful. Yeah we've got to turn
1:10:32
every stone over. Yeah.
1:10:35
So Deep Far tells them that
1:10:37
they need to find some care and that they won't hear
1:10:39
anything else from him about this. Okay
1:10:41
dad. Scully goes back
1:10:44
to the microbiology department and Kristen
1:10:46
you will not believe this. What are
1:10:48
the odds? But Dr. Carpenter was in a terrible
1:10:50
car accident with her whole family and she is
1:10:53
dead. Okay
1:10:55
and so
1:10:56
just like the tales all this time bury
1:10:58
your gaze you know what I mean? Just one
1:11:01
smooch with scully and there she goes killed.
1:11:03
I don't care for this. No
1:11:06
I don't either. Bring her back.
1:11:08
Bring her back.
1:11:11
Okay so Mulder
1:11:14
is back at Barubie's house and someone
1:11:16
is there. It's sick car. Sick
1:11:18
hair. I'm so sorry. I'll never
1:11:20
get it right. Jenny in this moment
1:11:22
when I was watching this this episode
1:11:25
Mulder opens up that attic
1:11:27
and climbs up the ladder and I turned
1:11:30
to Avanti and I said
1:11:31
imagine that
1:11:32
Chevy Chase was just up there watching his old
1:11:35
Christmas movie on the projector
1:11:38
and I want so badly for
1:11:41
the cut to be made of just like Mulder
1:11:44
going up and then cutting to
1:11:46
look at
1:11:46
Chevy Chase up there. It's the same attic. I swear
1:11:49
to God.
1:11:53
Sick hair is up there. He attacks Mulder.
1:11:56
Mulder says he's gonna protect him but then
1:12:00
Someone in a gas mask shoots
1:12:03
him and
1:12:05
Mulder is burned the same way that the guys
1:12:07
in the ambulance were burned by the noxious
1:12:10
fumes coming out of this alien human.
1:12:13
Yeah when Mulder wakes up and his face
1:12:16
is all fucked up, this is
1:12:18
from the fumes. Yeah. Not
1:12:20
from crew cut men punching him in the face
1:12:22
a bunch. Yeah and I actually didn't
1:12:25
know that until I read some of the like behind the scenes
1:12:27
stuff and
1:12:27
it talked about how
1:12:30
David Duchovny, this makeup was like
1:12:32
a real
1:12:34
pain in the ass and he had to wear
1:12:36
it for a long time and what have you and in that
1:12:38
it talked about how it was from you
1:12:40
know the fumes or whatever but I because
1:12:43
his wrists are duct taped together
1:12:45
it is very easy to think
1:12:48
that they beat the shit out of him but
1:12:50
yeah that's not what's being implied.
1:12:52
Okay
1:12:53
you
1:12:55
know that feeling when
1:12:57
your two girlfriends run
1:12:59
into each other at the door
1:13:01
to your apartment
1:13:03
and it's so embarrassing for
1:13:06
everyone. So embarrassing
1:13:08
this is just like Brandi and Monica you know
1:13:10
what I mean this is happening. Deep
1:13:14
throat immediately claiming ownership
1:13:17
like popping out from behind the bush and being like he's not
1:13:19
home so
1:13:20
nice that you tried but I actually
1:13:22
know so oh
1:13:27
my goodness.
1:13:28
Deep throat says
1:13:30
that he knows that they're not gonna kill Mulder
1:13:33
because he's become too
1:13:35
high-profile.
1:13:36
He says that Scully has evidence
1:13:38
that could expose them and she's like
1:13:39
but I don't and then deep
1:13:41
throat is like
1:13:42
but did you know that
1:13:44
you're a medical doctor?
1:13:54
Because
1:13:56
of your medical background I could get you
1:13:58
into this incredibly high
1:14:01
security, super
1:14:03
secret government
1:14:05
project. And
1:14:09
I know we'll probably talk about this when we get
1:14:11
to it, but
1:14:12
since he's going to get Scully into this
1:14:15
facility and since he's already sharing
1:14:17
all this information with him,
1:14:19
are we to believe that Deep Throat
1:14:21
knows he's fucking dead? From the
1:14:24
moment he walked into that room with the tanks that
1:14:26
he knows he's dead? Because
1:14:28
it feels like that to me, that he's
1:14:30
just giving them everything he can give them.
1:14:36
And I also think it's the reason that he argues as much
1:14:38
as he argues with Scully
1:14:39
about who's going to do the trade. Oh,
1:14:43
look at that. Yeah,
1:14:45
I could see that.
1:14:48
And I don't know, because
1:14:50
for those of
1:14:51
you who've seen more of the series,
1:14:53
there's likely more that we will learn about.
1:14:55
I mean, probably we'll get some more on Deep Throat.
1:14:58
So maybe there's more
1:15:00
information that will be filled in
1:15:02
later. But at first I was
1:15:04
really annoyed when he was on the bridge and
1:15:07
wouldn't let Scully do anything. But then when
1:15:09
everything unfolded, I was like, oh my God,
1:15:11
Deep Throat was just making sure that she
1:15:13
stayed alive?
1:15:15
Question mark.
1:15:16
I mean, yeah. Well, I
1:15:19
have questions when we get there. Okay.
1:15:21
For now, so
1:15:24
we have a listener, as
1:15:25
you know, we've talked about a few times who asks questions
1:15:28
to their sister who
1:15:30
is in the FBI, I believe actually retired
1:15:32
now from the FBI. And I was thinking so
1:15:35
much about this sister's response to us
1:15:37
asking if FBI agents are trained
1:15:39
to be sneaky and being like,
1:15:41
no, because FBI agents
1:15:43
don't have to be sneaky. That's
1:15:46
not usually in the job description of being
1:15:48
in the FBI. Really clearly
1:15:50
no training for being sneaky.
1:15:53
Once again, she looks as suspicious as
1:15:55
I would look if I was trying to break into the facility.
1:15:58
Project password.
1:16:00
Looks everywhere.
1:16:02
Is it called Red
1:16:06
Bell? Is it called Doorknob?
1:16:08
Is it
1:16:10
called
1:16:11
Increasingly Angry Security
1:16:14
Card? She just like
1:16:16
even every time she swipes the key
1:16:18
card in any swiper, I feel like she holds
1:16:20
up the card and looks left right up,
1:16:23
down before she swipes the card. Like
1:16:25
she's just, it's just
1:16:27
not slick, but she fucking, she
1:16:30
had a hunch, Jenny. She fucking had a hunch.
1:16:33
Her hunch was right. She guessed purity control
1:16:35
and that was the fucking project that was. Thankfully she didn't guess
1:16:38
monkey piss. This
1:16:40
is all taking place, by the way, on floor
1:16:43
seven, the cryology
1:16:45
floor for her. It's
1:16:49
where you get a cry, you know? You gotta
1:16:52
have some feelings. You gotta go up to
1:16:54
level seven. I mean, how
1:16:56
do you think I know what it's for? I
1:16:59
have been there myself. It
1:17:02
just says level seven, comma, if you have
1:17:04
something in your eye. Yeah. Yeah.
1:17:08
Okay. So Scully
1:17:10
opens this big Jurassic Park
1:17:13
tube and what,
1:17:15
lo and behold,
1:17:18
but what to her wondering eyes should
1:17:20
appear but a tiny
1:17:22
frozen alien baby,
1:17:25
which she then just muggles out
1:17:27
somehow. She just walks out
1:17:29
of this place. And it is pretty small.
1:17:32
It's pretty small. She's a lady, so she
1:17:34
probably has a purse at least the size of an alien
1:17:36
baby, you know?
1:17:39
Kristen, let me tell you what. The first test
1:17:41
shot of Scully removing the alien
1:17:44
fetus doll from liquid nitrogen went
1:17:47
correctly, but then under the hot studio lights,
1:17:49
the model started falling apart.
1:17:53
Did you know that? So... In the following
1:17:55
takes, they had to flash the lighting in a different direction.
1:17:58
Do you have that whole...
1:17:59
Bit about it because there's one
1:18:02
part of it where it talks about the
1:18:03
alien baby's head Literally
1:18:06
exploding off of the
1:18:07
thing across the room and it's oh my god. No
1:18:10
very funny
1:18:12
Will put there's so much like
1:18:14
production Information about this
1:18:17
finale and it is really delightful
1:18:19
from the top to the bottom. So we'll
1:18:21
link to this like production
1:18:25
Document that you know, you could Google it also But
1:18:27
we'll put it in the links for you to find easy
1:18:29
more easily But I love
1:18:31
that and they had another one. Don't worry. There was two there
1:18:34
are two baby fetus aliens And
1:18:37
so when when one shattered
1:18:39
they they had a backup This
1:18:43
is and I cannot I know I already talked about it But
1:18:46
I cannot explain to you how little I expected
1:18:48
this moment I was I if
1:18:51
I was on a less stable surface, I would have fallen
1:18:53
off I was luckily really wedged
1:18:55
in my couch. So I didn't fall but I was like
1:18:58
I
1:18:59
Just thought it was gonna be tissue,
1:19:01
you know, like the whole time they were like, it's the
1:19:03
original tissue sample tissue
1:19:06
tissue So I thought it was gonna be like a little
1:19:08
sciency piece of nondescript thing
1:19:11
Yeah,
1:19:13
but no I
1:19:14
Love it.
1:19:16
I fucking love it
1:19:19
They sell the please that you're pleased so they
1:19:21
sell these can I have a tiny alien
1:19:24
baby fetus in my office Paperweight,
1:19:27
you know
1:19:27
must sell them right? Yes.
1:19:30
Yeah, I'm sure we can I'm sure we could
1:19:32
track one of these down
1:19:33
Cover Buffy
1:19:35
get a green mug cover the X files
1:19:37
get an alien fetus perfect,
1:19:40
um Okay, I already said this but
1:19:42
my first note when they get to the bridge is we
1:19:44
love to see Scully with an alien In a box
1:19:46
under her arm. We simply love to see it
1:19:53
She's there waiting for deep throat
1:19:55
and she wants to make these change
1:19:57
because she says I don't
1:19:59
trust you deep throat but then she also
1:20:02
says not out loud and I will am
1:20:04
in love with lox maulter
1:20:06
yeah and and deep throat is like
1:20:08
in 1987 a group of southern kids were injected
1:20:10
with clone DNA from a baby
1:20:12
alien when they thought they were getting a vaccine
1:20:15
that's the kind of people that
1:20:17
you're dealing with as
1:20:20
a child why
1:20:24
people think
1:20:25
something
1:20:28
also as a child who was seven
1:20:30
years old in 1987 I have to say
1:20:33
was it me well
1:20:35
maybe do you feel inhumanly strong Kristen
1:20:37
always
1:20:42
crew cut man rolls up
1:20:43
makes very meaningful eye contact with scully
1:20:46
leaving me to wonder with what what
1:20:48
is about to transpire why leave scully
1:20:50
alive while we've molder alive why
1:20:53
are mother and scully alive I don't
1:20:55
like they're too hot I can't kill them
1:20:58
people are enjoying this
1:20:59
show to let it go on one more season
1:21:02
they stop by deep throat
1:21:05
the the crew cut man van stop
1:21:07
by the throat and as crew cut man
1:21:10
is
1:21:11
making the trade slash
1:21:12
killing deep throat shooting
1:21:15
him dead Mulder is unceremoniously
1:21:18
hucked out of the bank of the van yeah
1:21:21
and okay so
1:21:24
deep throat getting shot
1:21:26
did not expect it did not believe
1:21:28
it actually like I
1:21:31
I just really felt like in future
1:21:35
seasons we would see more
1:21:37
deep throat and again
1:21:39
I don't know because I haven't seen it but
1:21:41
based on
1:21:43
general vibes it feels like deep
1:21:45
throat is actually dead so that's
1:21:49
sad if true and
1:21:51
I also think that
1:21:54
this exchange that deep throat and scully
1:21:56
have before he gets shot feels important
1:21:59
Uh, cause he tells
1:22:02
her about the kids who were, you know, inoculated
1:22:04
with like alien DNA or whatever. Um,
1:22:07
and then says that they have to save
1:22:09
Mulder's life. And she says at the
1:22:12
expense of so many others, because when I was
1:22:14
first watching this episode, I was like, Mulder
1:22:16
is going to be so fucking mad if
1:22:19
Scully saves his life by like giving
1:22:21
up the thing that he's always been after. Right?
1:22:23
Like this fucking alien baby,
1:22:26
Mulder wants more than his own life.
1:22:28
Like clearly.
1:22:29
Um,
1:22:31
but then I also thought like, okay, so yeah, like
1:22:33
why, why are we,
1:22:36
if this is the thing, it's in the box,
1:22:38
we have the thing. It's right here. Why
1:22:40
are we giving it away to get Mulder
1:22:43
back? And deep throat says,
1:22:45
because this is the tip of the iceberg, you
1:22:48
and Mulder are the only ones
1:22:51
who can bring it to light.
1:22:53
Why?
1:22:55
No idea. Okay. Categorically
1:22:58
untrue. Okay, cool. I
1:23:01
just, I just found something out. Jerry
1:23:04
Harden, who plays deep throat, has
1:23:07
a daughter who is an actor.
1:23:11
Who I know you've seen in a variety of things.
1:23:14
Chrissy.
1:23:15
Melora Harden, Jan
1:23:18
from the office. She's a trans
1:23:20
parent. She's a bold type.
1:23:23
Of course. She's a fucking badass.
1:23:26
I love her.
1:23:28
I've seen her in all of those things, which I can
1:23:30
very rarely say about anyone.
1:23:32
Oh my God. She's in the hot
1:23:35
chick.
1:23:36
Oh, I haven't seen that.
1:23:37
Wow. That's
1:23:39
her dad.
1:23:41
Can you believe it? Oh, that's so cool.
1:23:45
Yeah.
1:23:47
Um,
1:23:49
so when deep throat is shot, Scully
1:23:51
runs and she notably runs
1:23:54
to Mulder first. And once she knows
1:23:56
that Mulder is alive, then she goes over
1:23:58
to deep
1:23:59
throat. This is when.
1:23:59
of course he says.
1:24:01
What does he say, Jenny?
1:24:03
Trust!
1:24:05
Trust!
1:24:07
No one
1:24:10
does.
1:24:11
Um, this is a gorgeous
1:24:14
shot, I think. It's really, sorry,
1:24:16
it's really giving Sid the ventriloquist
1:24:19
dummy from Buffy the Vampire
1:24:22
Slayer. Okay,
1:24:22
I don't mean the shot where he says
1:24:25
those lines, but the shot right after
1:24:27
that where it like pans up from the bridge
1:24:30
and Mulder is sort of like in the dark and
1:24:32
then Scully and Deep Throat
1:24:33
are like lit by a street lamp or what
1:24:35
have you. It's
1:24:36
really beautiful. Yeah, yeah. I'm
1:24:39
like, hmm, I also think
1:24:41
like
1:24:43
sad to lose Deep
1:24:43
Throat if this is really the truth of the matter,
1:24:46
which it seems it is. Um,
1:24:47
but I also kind of love, like
1:24:50
Deep Throat was always an ambiguous character.
1:24:52
We didn't know from the moment we met him if he was
1:24:55
really helping Mulder, if he was playing around
1:24:57
with Mulder, what his intentions were. We had
1:25:00
very compelling moments from him where he said,
1:25:02
you know, explained how he had to kill an
1:25:05
alien one time and that he'll never forget the look
1:25:07
in that alien's eyes of confusion
1:25:10
and like just like really fucking
1:25:12
complicated shit in this character. And so
1:25:14
I love that
1:25:17
the end of this episode was Scully essentially
1:25:20
having to trust Deep Throat because he said
1:25:22
that she had no one else to trust. And then his
1:25:24
last words before dying
1:25:27
were to trust no one, which, you
1:25:29
know, could of course mean trust no one because
1:25:31
look, they just fucking killed me,
1:25:33
but it could also mean you shouldn't
1:25:35
have trusted me. Like we, we don't
1:25:37
know and we
1:25:38
can't know. And my god,
1:25:41
I just think that's very cool and very good
1:25:44
writing. Um, and I like
1:25:46
it and I hope for more of it.
1:25:52
What
1:25:52
a show. So glad we're talking about this show.
1:25:54
You know? Yeah.
1:25:59
Well. 13 days later, it's
1:26:02
just a specific amount of days.
1:26:06
Phone rings, but Scully was already awake
1:26:09
because she and Mulder,
1:26:11
similar to
1:26:12
twins in the womb, can
1:26:14
sometimes communicate with each other. That's
1:26:17
a reference to an episode we didn't
1:26:18
cover. Hey,
1:26:20
Scully! Oh, God. It's me. Um,
1:26:25
this is... Jenny, do you want to talk about the
1:26:28
promo for this episode that you sent to me right
1:26:30
now? Because it was really something and
1:26:32
I think we're gonna put it up on our socials. Yeah,
1:26:37
let me grab that really quick. The
1:26:39
top of the image says, explosive
1:26:41
season finale. Okay. Then
1:26:44
there's a big file and
1:26:48
the tab on the file says the X-Files
1:26:50
and there's a photo of Mulder and a
1:26:52
photo of Scully and they're
1:26:55
paper clipped onto the outside of the file. They've been
1:26:57
stamped and they say, terminate!
1:27:00
Across their pretty little faces. And then
1:27:02
the copy is, of all the mysteries
1:27:04
in the X-Files, there is one so deadly
1:27:06
and
1:27:07
frightening the government will do
1:27:08
anything to keep it a secret.
1:27:10
Even kill their own. Footage not found.
1:27:13
Like, really? They were not terminated.
1:27:16
Nobody even tried. You trust
1:27:18
no one, including the people who
1:27:21
advertise for television shows, you
1:27:22
know what I mean? Yes,
1:27:25
correct. Correct.
1:27:28
What,
1:27:28
of course, they meant was not that
1:27:30
Scully and Mulder were going to get killed,
1:27:33
which they do not, but that
1:27:35
they were going to shut down the X-Files.
1:27:38
And that's why Fox Mulder has
1:27:40
called Dana Scully in this last scene.
1:27:42
They're shutting us down. They called me in
1:27:44
tonight. They're going to reassign
1:27:47
a Skinner.
1:27:49
Pellegy himself
1:27:50
told Mulder
1:27:53
he's fucking out of here. I
1:27:56
don't like it. I
1:27:58
don't like it either. Honestly, Scully likes it.
1:27:59
at least of all she's like well
1:28:02
you had to go to the side and started
1:28:04
to like this yeah I just found my first
1:28:07
alien baby what do you mean oh my first
1:28:10
alien baby
1:28:14
she says what are you gonna do and
1:28:17
he says I'm not gonna give up I can't give
1:28:19
up not as well now here's the thing
1:28:21
he says not as long as the truth is out there
1:28:24
click and what I really want from from
1:28:26
Mulder is for him to say I'm not
1:28:28
gonna give up I can't
1:28:29
give up not as long as the truth is out there what
1:28:32
are you gonna do
1:28:34
but he hangs up he doesn't even ask her she
1:28:36
just wanted to tell him he's like bye
1:28:39
Shelly an alien baby
1:28:41
she's gonna help him no matter what no matter
1:28:43
what
1:28:45
we'll get to my crystal ball don't worry
1:28:50
did you notice what
1:28:52
time Mulder called Scully
1:28:54
I think I did actually 12 11 22 p.m. Scully
1:28:56
had been asleep for two and
1:29:02
a half hours already
1:29:04
yes
1:29:07
and
1:29:09
do you remember a previous time when
1:29:11
Mulder called Scully
1:29:14
was it at the end of the pilot at that at that hour
1:29:16
was it at the end of the pilot episode of this
1:29:20
season that's right it was in
1:29:22
the pilot you know what else
1:29:24
happened in the pilot what else happened in the pilot
1:29:26
Jenny the man
1:29:29
we've come to lovingly refer to as the cigarette
1:29:31
smoking man filed something
1:29:33
away in the everyone
1:29:36
at the Pentagon our hoarders storage
1:29:39
unit Pentagon
1:29:42
easy storage facility oh my
1:29:45
god but this time he's he files away a
1:29:47
little alien baby in a jar in
1:29:49
the alien baby in a jar section
1:29:51
yeah it's right next to the nose
1:29:53
plugs
1:29:54
aliens put in your nose section
1:29:59
But I love this. I mean, I really do
1:30:02
like we're laughing but I love the like
1:30:04
overlap of pilot
1:30:06
and finale. I think that's very
1:30:08
nice. And, oh, for
1:30:10
sure. Yeah, that's, this is great.
1:30:13
This is great.
1:30:14
To Latoya and it's you know we've
1:30:16
all been on a ride right and Latoya
1:30:18
and I have had some similar experiences with
1:30:20
season one we've both never seen it before and
1:30:24
Latoya's last production note
1:30:27
was honestly,
1:30:28
this finale made me immediately want
1:30:31
to start up season two,
1:30:32
just after I finished up my notes for this
1:30:35
season and I am very much
1:30:37
with you Latoya. I am feeling
1:30:39
I love this.
1:30:41
Yeah, I'm fucking ready. Let's go.
1:30:44
Let's go. Season two, show me
1:30:46
some aliens. Notably, this was not
1:30:49
an hot alien with tits. This was a baby alien. We
1:30:52
still have the whole other season to find
1:30:54
Latoya her
1:30:55
hot alien with tits. So, my God.
1:31:02
What
1:31:05
a world. What a time to be alive. I'm
1:31:07
so
1:31:08
pleased. Yeah,
1:31:10
me too. How do you feel? I feel
1:31:13
excited. Powerful, exciting. I feel
1:31:15
powerful. I feel very proud of myself that I can say
1:31:17
I've seen a whole season of The X-Files, but
1:31:20
I feel very excited
1:31:22
because I've been and I mean, you know,
1:31:24
maybe I will feel differently when we cartwheel
1:31:27
over into season two next season, but I've been wanting
1:31:29
to be a part of this.
1:31:30
I'm wanting to feel more
1:31:32
excited
1:31:33
in a lot of these episodes of season
1:31:36
one. And yeah, I
1:31:38
feel like perhaps we're going to get there. I'm gonna
1:31:41
tell you some of the things that I think might
1:31:45
happen in season two once we get to my crystal ball.
1:31:47
I'll save some of my excited,
1:31:49
specific feelings for there.
1:31:52
Sure, sure, sure, sure. But
1:31:54
speaking of excited feelings.
1:31:59
dare we turn our
1:32:02
eyes from
1:32:05
between the slats of our spread
1:32:08
fingers covering them
1:32:10
performatively toward
1:32:13
the sexual attention awards
1:32:15
welcome back
1:32:19
to the
1:32:24
final
1:32:27
installment of the sexual attention Awards
1:32:30
for season one unless we
1:32:32
are
1:32:33
forced let's be crackling chemistry
1:32:35
between me Kristen and Latoya during
1:32:38
the recording of the wrap-up episode
1:32:41
for season one is so intense that we
1:32:43
have no choice but to nominate every
1:32:45
combination of the three of us again something
1:32:47
to aim for you know
1:32:52
oh boy in slot number one
1:32:55
cast a vote for daddy issues
1:32:57
cast a vote
1:32:59
for you know the collective consciousness
1:33:03
he just wanted
1:33:05
to make him proud
1:33:07
and stuff and it's none of our business
1:33:09
it's Mulder and Deep Throat
1:33:12
perhaps they've become too dependent
1:33:14
on each other in slot
1:33:17
number two beautiful friends
1:33:20
may I submit the people's
1:33:21
choice
1:33:22
doctors Dana Scully
1:33:25
and Ann Carpenter paging
1:33:28
doctors Scully and
1:33:30
Carpenter where could they have gone
1:33:32
your freeze fracture is ready doctors
1:33:35
doctors where are you
1:33:39
it's not Colonel
1:33:42
mustard with the peppercorn
1:33:44
grinder in the shed or whatever anymore
1:33:48
your grandmother's sexual
1:33:51
tension award no
1:33:52
it's dr. carpenter and dr. Scully
1:33:55
in the hospital closet with
1:33:58
none of our business
1:34:01
In
1:34:05
the third slot,
1:34:08
many senses go into
1:34:11
a,
1:34:12
forgive me for saying
1:34:14
so,
1:34:14
sexual experience. Gross.
1:34:18
Uh,
1:34:21
but, uh,
1:34:22
arguably, could it be said
1:34:25
that, you know, one of the sort
1:34:27
of most
1:34:29
important or the first thing maybe that you think
1:34:32
of, uh, sense-wise when it comes
1:34:34
to a sexual
1:34:35
encounter,
1:34:37
would be touch? If so,
1:34:40
check yes on slot three for
1:34:42
Mulder and bare-handing evidence,
1:34:45
left, right, willy and
1:34:47
nilly. He can't be contained. And
1:34:49
in slot number four,
1:34:52
oh my goodness,
1:34:54
they've really, they've
1:34:55
really got it. She doesn't have the opportunity to
1:35:00
put her, take her jacket off and put it on him
1:35:02
when he has been hucked out of
1:35:04
the van, but they do make significant
1:35:07
eye contact and she does, uh, believe
1:35:10
it seems, and she also apologizes
1:35:12
to him unnecessarily, but still, uh,
1:35:15
feels like a real
1:35:17
flawless victory for
1:35:19
Mulder and Scully, the
1:35:21
mothership. The mothership. I
1:35:23
think that the more Scully believes in
1:35:25
aliens, the more Scully believes
1:35:27
she wants to kiss Mulder, you know, I think it's a
1:35:30
math equals math
1:35:31
there. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
1:35:34
I want to believe I kiss
1:35:36
Mooch. Okay.
1:35:40
Now, Kristen.
1:35:42
Do you have
1:35:45
the titular amethyst sphere
1:35:48
on hand? Oh, I've
1:35:50
got
1:35:50
the titular sphere. Let's fucking go. Okay.
1:35:53
It is time, one last time,
1:35:56
for a season one installment of
1:35:58
Kristen's Crystal.
1:35:59
ball. She
1:36:06
can see it's dark. What's
1:36:09
catching you
1:36:11
in the fight? I'm
1:36:14
sure she'll get it.
1:36:18
Kristen and Chris,
1:36:21
the ball.
1:36:22
What are you thinking?
1:36:24
I already declared this,
1:36:26
but my crystal ball and I are convinced
1:36:29
Mulder's bed is his couch. This is now a fact.
1:36:31
I already said that, but I want it to be in his proper
1:36:33
segment. Okay.
1:36:35
Scully and
1:36:38
Mulder will not kiss in
1:36:40
season two, but they
1:36:42
will get knocked unconscious and wake
1:36:45
up in a compromising position.
1:36:51
Mulder will be wearing sweatpants
1:36:54
for the first three episodes of season
1:36:56
two. Perhaps he will even have
1:36:59
some stubble
1:37:00
because they're off
1:37:03
the job.
1:37:04
Well, he is.
1:37:07
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay.
1:37:11
Scully will bring by some food for
1:37:13
Mulder and find out that
1:37:15
in his depression and stubble and
1:37:18
sweatpants, Mulder has actually started
1:37:20
feeding a stray cat by leaving
1:37:22
food out for it every night.
1:37:29
Scully will have a horrible
1:37:31
partner in her
1:37:32
new reassignment at the FBI.
1:37:35
We will
1:37:35
hate him, but
1:37:37
they might accidentally kiss
1:37:40
one time just so
1:37:42
we can see how angry Mulder
1:37:44
gets. Mulder, in fact, will bitch
1:37:47
to his stray cat about it.
1:37:50
Okay, okay. Okay,
1:37:53
okay. Just two more points. One,
1:37:58
we will meet one of the children who was murdered. injected
1:38:00
with alien DNA in season
1:38:02
two
1:38:04
and some... Okay, okay. Finally,
1:38:06
last but not least, someone
1:38:08
gay will be in the second season. A
1:38:10
gay character will be on the second
1:38:13
season. It may only appear one time,
1:38:15
but a true bonafide
1:38:18
gay will be in season two of
1:38:20
the exercise.
1:38:24
If a character, like if
1:38:26
Mulder and Scully or Mulder or Scully
1:38:29
are investigating a murder of
1:38:31
someone who is revealed to be gay, but
1:38:33
they have no screen time as an alive
1:38:36
character, does that count? No, that
1:38:38
fucking doesn't count. Now mad. I
1:38:40
mean, I know it doesn't count, but I'm just... I know,
1:38:41
I know, I know, I know. It's for clarity. No,
1:38:43
it doesn't count. Ugh.
1:38:46
Okay. Beautiful.
1:38:49
Also, one quick question
1:38:51
from our listener, Angus. Wanting
1:38:54
to know how many more smug
1:38:57
bitches do I predict, do me
1:38:59
and my crystal ball predict will appear in the show?
1:39:02
Will any of them be called Elizabeth? Okay,
1:39:05
we've got how many seasons of this show?
1:39:07
There's nine, but everybody doesn't
1:39:10
like one of them. There's eight, or there's nine, and then
1:39:12
there's ten. Okay, so there's nine. Eleven.
1:39:14
Okay. I think there's nine proper,
1:39:16
and then two reboots.
1:39:18
All right, I'm going to go with seven more
1:39:20
smug bitches. When we mean
1:39:23
that a smug bitch is an eight-year-old girl
1:39:25
who can use
1:39:26
power to mess
1:39:29
you up,
1:39:30
and all... Seven more eight-year-old
1:39:33
girls who use
1:39:35
a power to mess you up. You
1:39:38
mess you up. And probably
1:39:41
I will call people a smug bitch at least 22
1:39:43
more times in the series, so they will span.
1:39:46
I mean, deep throat, smug bitch.
1:39:48
So it goes past
1:39:50
just the original smug bitches of the world.
1:39:53
And yes, one of them will be called Elizabeth.
1:39:59
Okay. Great. Okay, perfect.
1:40:02
We did it. Fuck, Jenny!
1:40:05
What the fuck is the status
1:40:07
of this X-File?
1:40:10
I would say that the status of this
1:40:13
X-File is too
1:40:15
dependent on me and my
1:40:18
willingness to play its game.
1:40:25
Alright, Jenny, well, for the last time
1:40:27
in Season 1, you should probably tell
1:40:30
everyone who the hell you are.
1:40:33
Here we go.
1:40:35
Beautiful friends,
1:40:38
my name is Jenny Owen Youngs and
1:40:41
when
1:40:42
I'm not watching the X-Files or Buffy
1:40:44
the Vampire Slayer, I'm usually
1:40:46
making music.
1:40:49
I don't mean to brag, but I just announced
1:40:52
my annual holiday stream, Tidings
1:40:55
of Comfort and J-O-Y. It
1:40:57
will be occurring this year on December 14th.
1:41:00
You can get tickets and find
1:41:03
out more info by visiting my website, JennyOwenYoungs.com
1:41:06
or finding my various posts about
1:41:08
it across socials, at
1:41:10
JennyOwenYoungs. You can also
1:41:13
say hi
1:41:14
to me on those socials, give me a little follow,
1:41:17
you know, come be a
1:41:19
pal.
1:41:20
I encourage you to show up,
1:41:22
show up to feel festive, show
1:41:25
up to enjoy Jenny's music and show up
1:41:27
to remind Jenny that she is the same age
1:41:30
as me, Kristen Russo, on December
1:41:32
14th
1:41:33
for Comfort and Tidings and J-O-Y.
1:41:36
That is annoying, but
1:41:39
whatever gets you there. My
1:41:42
name is Kristen Russo and
1:41:44
when I'm not watching the X-Files or Buffy,
1:41:46
I am usually working with and for
1:41:49
LGBTQ communities. You can learn
1:41:51
more about my work at
1:41:52
KristenNoleen.com. This
1:41:54
year,
1:41:54
I also did some
1:41:56
fun stuff with my patrons.
1:41:59
was watching some queer horror films together.
1:42:02
And it was so much fun, in fact, that we will
1:42:05
be picking 12 more horror
1:42:07
films. And this time it's a list curated
1:42:09
by us specifically
1:42:13
for 2024. So we'll be rolling out that list
1:42:15
of queer horror choices. And you can find
1:42:18
all that information out on my Patreon, patreon.com
1:42:20
slash Kristen Noleen. Oh, Kristen
1:42:23
Noleen, did you want to know how to spell that? That's my first
1:42:25
name and my middle name. And Jenny
1:42:28
wrote a jingle to help you out.
1:42:42
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You can write to the crystal ball at
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1:42:56
Now's the time to do it too, because you can
1:42:59
get all your season two crystal ball questions
1:43:01
in there. You know what I mean? For sure.
1:43:04
You can support our work by of course
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1:43:16
whatever that means. It's the first time we've ever had an ornament
1:43:18
that says those famous words on it.
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We've
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This episode was produced by Kristen Russo, Jenny
1:43:36
Owen Youngs and LaToya Ferguson with support
1:43:38
from our consultant, Mackenzie McDade. It
1:43:41
was edited by John Mark Nelson. Until
1:43:44
next time.
1:43:45
The pod
1:43:47
is out there.
1:43:52
As is the alien baby fetus.
1:44:29
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1:44:32
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1:44:34
Sisters
1:44:35
is about a museum curator of medical
1:44:37
oddities, who investigates the origins
1:44:39
of a mutated skeleton with two layers
1:44:42
of bones. Seven
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