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February 22nd. Love

1:34

is in the air, doo doo doo

1:37

doo. But

1:39

like way up in the air with

1:42

flashing lights. Happy

1:44

Valentine's Day. Happy

1:47

Valentine's Day. Jenny, I'm

1:49

so glad to be spending it here

1:51

with you. Happy Valentine's

1:53

Day, Kristen. And Frank. We

1:59

have a couple of things to talk about. They are you.

2:01

Before we roll into a season

2:03

Two of the X Files. Wow,

2:05

Very doing it. I'm

2:07

so excited! Museum. Of.

2:09

The word person. There's some great episodes in

2:12

the season. They're also some terrible upset. About

2:16

both kinds of epithet? Unexplained. Some hundred more

2:18

fun with a terrible ever said. So bring

2:20

it. I know, no. One. Thing

2:22

that we need discuss Kristin. Are

2:25

the results of the season One. Season.

2:27

Wide. Sexual tension,

2:30

Awards it's true of with.

2:32

Wide and sexual tension together is

2:34

a interesting word. Herring yes. But

2:37

can we? Can we say that

2:39

Felix, the sexual tension where they're

2:41

all about interesting pairing zip through.

2:44

Can we say that these are

2:46

that? Number three? Number two, and

2:48

number one. Best Valentine's. I.

2:51

Yeah, I think so. have no wednesday the all

2:53

of his bearings and also. All.

2:55

Of the norms. And all

2:58

of them on Emily May clog St.

3:00

Ak. So especially Emily Emily Many I

3:02

hope that no one except for Emily

3:04

Mic Longstreet have a good Valentine's Day.

3:07

Sorry. In

3:09

third place. For. The whole season.

3:12

Standing. On. The. Little pedestal that

3:14

has higher than the ground but not as high

3:16

as the second and first place that other. Ah,

3:20

You know, usually you see like

3:22

Mario or toad there, but in

3:24

this case it's casual, moulder and

3:27

all. Of us with the Mario and

3:29

Toad. I like a word. Celebrate!

3:31

Yes! Say. It

3:33

a place in second place.

3:35

Speaking of places, ah, abroad.

3:37

Kind of shocked. When

3:40

I consider our listeners and them the only

3:42

second place. But. Of course it had to

3:44

be at least second place. Is Doctors

3:47

Scully and De Silva D.

3:49

Than the arctic Swansea device?

3:52

Space worms at every turn

3:54

Left reads a Better World

3:56

Aids Day Saturday. six hundred

3:59

other worms they better

4:01

huddle together for warmth etc. And

4:05

in first place some

4:08

would say it's fate, some would

4:10

say it had to be it's the mothership it's

4:12

Mulder and Scully we love them. Mulder

4:15

and Scully took season one and honestly

4:17

I mean there's not as to your

4:19

point Jenny not much could tip the

4:21

queer pairings on our scales but

4:23

the mothership if anyone was going to do it it

4:26

would be these two so

4:28

congratulations. This means I guess that Mulder and

4:30

casual Mulder will receive trophies but

4:33

casual Mulder's trophy will be smaller

4:35

than regular Mulder. Correct.

4:40

Thank you again Emily. We of

4:42

course begin again with season two where

4:44

we collect all of the noms and then at

4:46

the season end we will find out who wins

4:49

season two. Will it be the mothership again? Who

4:51

knows will it be the time and

4:53

quitting the podcast? That's a spoiler for

4:55

next episode. I'm really excited

4:58

about what you've come up with

5:00

to try out this season. Yeah. Kristen

5:02

I've come up but Jenny likes an

5:05

idea of mine please tally it in

5:07

your notebooks mark your calendars.

5:09

We are doing something very fun this season

5:11

which is that I am holding office hours

5:13

in our patreon discord on Tuesdays from 4

5:16

30 to 5 30 Eastern

5:18

time. I will be there nearly every

5:21

Tuesday and we will be talking

5:23

about two things during that hour. We will be

5:25

talking about the episode that has most recently aired

5:27

so that you can air

5:29

all of your grievances and come

5:32

bearing all of your compliments. You'd never

5:34

have grievances with us. So

5:36

and the episode that we are about

5:38

to tape which I think is even

5:40

more exciting because for example yesterday we

5:42

gathered and we discussed the episode blood

5:44

because that is the episode that we

5:46

are taping next. So we all talked

5:49

about that and then I can gather

5:51

and bring in all of your

5:54

brilliant thoughts and comments and things into

5:56

our conversation. So that's a fun new

5:58

patreon thing office hours have a great

6:00

week. in the Patreon Discord Tuesdays

6:02

from 4.30 to 5.30. I

6:04

will always be there, Jenny, and

6:08

Latoya will sometimes be there too, is

6:10

that not correct? Yes, well you know,

6:12

Latoya and I are businessmen.

6:17

We have important things to which we must attend

6:19

from time to time. So classic of

6:21

businessmen to just show up whenever they want and

6:23

think that the job will get done, you know?

6:27

No, when you first announced this, I was like, can,

6:31

do I get to get it? So

6:35

I'm excited to be there as often as possible.

6:37

Hell yeah. You can of course

6:39

still email us. This is just a bit

6:42

more of a direct conduit to

6:44

my soul. So come join us

6:46

there if you will. Speaking of

6:48

joining, and also speaking of world's

6:50

greatest valentines. We

6:53

have a Valentine from us to you,

6:55

and it is the Want Take Winter,

6:58

very special faith podcast

7:01

that is up today for

7:05

Valentine's, for Buffy

7:07

and Faith, because they probably forgot to get each other something.

7:10

You can hear it now over in the Patreon feed. We've

7:13

of course been building to this for all of

7:15

Want Take Winter. And

7:17

the time has arrived for us to talk. Faith,

7:20

Faith, Faith, Faith, Faith, Faith, Faith. Oh,

7:23

Kristen, what am I forgetting? Mostly

7:25

this poem that I'm trying to make

7:27

right now, live on air. Roses

7:30

are red, violets are

7:32

blue, Buffy kissed Faith,

7:36

and we proved it to you. Oh,

7:39

that's really good. Thank you. That's really good.

7:41

Do you have one? How about roses

7:44

are red, these presents

7:46

are crappy, but

7:49

if we could smooch, then I would be

7:51

happy. That's a Valentine from Faith

7:53

to Buffy. If we keep going, we will

7:56

have a dirty limerick very quickly. There

8:01

once was a slayer from

8:03

Sunnydale. Listen,

8:06

there once was a slayer from

8:09

Boston, then rhyming it with often,

8:11

but I don't... Okay. She

8:14

got hungry and horny quite often. We

8:19

have to stop there. Come on over to Office

8:22

Hours if you want to also

8:24

finish Buffy and the Limerick. Exclusively

8:26

limerick writing going on in Office

8:28

Hours. Okay, you came here for X-Files, so

8:30

let me just tell you one more thing

8:32

about Faith LaHain before we go into Little

8:34

Green Men. Faith probably believes

8:37

in aliens, right? She knows

8:39

that the truth is out there. So the

8:41

Faith podcast is up now, as Jenny said. We

8:44

do have two more things happening in Want Take

8:46

Winter before the season rolls over to spring. What

8:48

will we talk about in spring? Anyone's guess. Saturday,

8:51

February 17th, that's this Saturday, we do

8:54

our last Faith Watch. Who are you

8:56

and this year's girl in tandem?

8:58

Not in tandem, that would make no sense.

9:01

One following the other. In

9:03

succession? In succession. And

9:06

the Thursday after that, the 22nd of February,

9:08

Jenny is going to be playing a buffering

9:10

concert of songs all centered around Faith.

9:16

patreon.com/BufferingCast. You can find out all

9:18

about these things and more, or

9:20

just go to our website, bufferingcast.com.

9:23

And now I will be quiet so

9:26

that I can talk more on the other

9:28

side of this theme song. Ever

9:30

heard of... Doo doo doo

9:33

doo doo doo doo, Skye?

9:40

I wanted to believe, but

9:42

the tools have been taken away. The

9:44

X-Files have been shut down. They

9:49

closed our eyes. Our

9:51

voices have been silenced. Our

9:54

ears now deaf to the realms

9:56

of extreme possibilities. And

10:30

welcome to the X-Files!

10:34

That's the EX-Files, a buffering rewatch

10:37

adventure where we're watching and discussing

10:39

every episode of the X-Files, one

10:41

by one, spoiler free. I

10:43

am Jenny Owen Young's

10:46

ex-wife of Kristen Russo, and

10:49

I grew up watching the X-Files. And

10:52

I'm Kristen Russo, ex-wife and good

10:54

friend of Jenny Owen Young's, and

10:56

I've only

10:59

ever seen 25 episodes of the

11:01

X-Files. Today

11:05

we are talking about Season 2, Episode

11:07

1, Little Green Men. Little

11:12

Green Men was written

11:14

by Glenn Morgan and James Wong and

11:17

directed by David Nutter. What a trio!

11:20

It originally aired September 16th,

11:22

1994. That's two months

11:24

and six days before my 13th birthday. Oh

11:26

my god, you're so small. There

11:28

I was, a 12-year-old, watching this

11:31

show. It's three months

11:33

almost exactly before my 14th

11:35

birthday. Because as we all know, you

11:37

are older than me. I am, of

11:40

course. Notably. Yes, I came to

11:42

my 90s teenage self a little bit before

11:44

you, so I'm actually an expert. Thank you. Okay.

11:49

This is the one where,

11:51

with the X-Files shut down,

11:53

Mulder travels to Puerto Rico

11:55

on a tip from his

11:57

mentor in the Senate to

11:59

uncover the reason behind the

12:01

sudden reactivation of a remote,

12:03

long abandoned, setty-like communication station.

12:05

That is so many words

12:07

IMDB. The

12:10

season on our motor goes to look at

12:12

the beet boobs from the little green men

12:14

to make sure they're little green men and not

12:16

elves. That's my summary.

12:18

Mm-hmm. Uh,

12:20

producer Latoya gives this episode a scary rating

12:23

of 1.5 out of 5. That's

12:28

the difference between a lap dance and a

12:30

table dance says. And

12:33

goes on to say there's tension, but I

12:35

would say this episode is not very spooky

12:38

at all. Again, the episode itself

12:40

is more of what I think I want and

12:42

expect out of the series. The additional

12:44

.5 is for the abduction stuff from both

12:46

Mulder's Dream and in the control room. All

12:49

right, all right, all right. Note to self, if

12:52

I ever become an alien and

12:54

I want to scare Latoya abduct

12:56

her. Yeah, I would like

12:59

to, you know that I try

13:01

to not take issue with Latoya's

13:03

scary rating, but I watched this

13:05

episode with Avanti, who is a

13:07

scaredy cat. As Latoya says that

13:09

she is, but I, as the

13:11

seasons continue, I am like- This

13:13

is tougher than she gives herself credit

13:15

for. I think so too, because I,

13:17

so, okay, so later in the, in

13:20

the episode, which we'll talk about in

13:22

more detail, but when Jorge is

13:25

like frozen in fear, Avanti

13:27

is like wrapped in

13:29

blankets with two eyes that looked up at

13:31

me and she goes, scared

13:34

to death. Like she

13:36

was so afraid. And when the like

13:38

garbled noises are coming out of the,

13:41

so I just feel like .5? Because

13:44

it's like the one is a default. So this is

13:46

a .5. Latoya,

13:48

I don't know. I think

13:50

you need to talk to my wife, my current

13:53

wife, because she was terrified

13:55

in the abduction bits of this episode.

13:58

I have some stuff to say. Some genera- episode

14:00

of feelings if I may. It's really good that

14:02

you decided to start a podcast. Yes,

14:08

tell me all of your general

14:10

vibes. So a couple weeks

14:13

ago I started watching season

14:15

two to like you know get my

14:17

head in the game, we'll pre-pro, just

14:19

vibe it out. And I watched

14:21

in the FBI when we mean pre-production. Yes,

14:26

and I watched this episode

14:28

and the host which is

14:30

the second episode of season

14:32

two. Spoilers, there's a second

14:34

episode. And I watched

14:36

them back to back without like thinking about it

14:38

and I did not like pay attention to the

14:40

credits or anything and I just registered this episode

14:43

as having been written by Chris Carter

14:45

and the host as having

14:47

been written by Glenn and James. That was just

14:49

like how I had it in my head for

14:52

reasons that we'll get into in the next episode for

14:55

the host which I feel like you

14:58

know some people might be with me on but

15:00

I won't say where they are here. But

15:02

this episode I thought was very

15:05

cartarian in the like

15:07

sort of I want to

15:09

say relentless, moulder monologuing. His

15:12

sort of like existential froth

15:16

that's occurring in this episode. He is like

15:18

really in it. He doesn't know what is

15:20

what. He's like did my sister even get

15:23

abducted? That's how spun I am. Yeah, yeah.

15:26

And I was really shocked when I went to

15:28

take my notes and was like oh wait this

15:31

was written by Glenn and James. Right.

15:33

And Chris wrote the host. Yeah,

15:36

so I mean based on, sorry

15:39

Chris, but based on the fact that

15:41

I have really not loved the Chris

15:43

Carter episodes I was not surprised that

15:45

Chris Carter did not write this episode

15:47

because I actually really loved this episode

15:49

and I see what you're saying about

15:51

the like monologuing. But how else

15:54

do you I mean it's like that's the

15:56

plot of the episode essentially is like

15:58

moulder is doubting everything. that

16:00

he's ever held to be true. Which,

16:03

a big picture I loved because

16:05

when we ended the season, I was like,

16:07

you know, my predictions were like, Mulder's going

16:10

to be like unshaven and like, he's going

16:12

to be digging deep on all the X-Files

16:14

in his basement because he can't get funding

16:16

from the FBI and he's going to be

16:18

going, going, going. And like, obviously we're pretty

16:21

much back there by the end of this

16:23

episode, but I thought it was

16:25

a really cool and fun choice to give us

16:27

this like idea

16:29

that Mulder now doesn't know that

16:31

he can trust himself. He can,

16:33

he feels he can only trust

16:35

Scully. Scully is like his, what

16:38

do you call it? Like a, like not

16:40

a barometer, but like his litmus.

16:43

What do you, you know what I mean? Like Scully

16:45

is the thing that lets him know if what's

16:47

he seeing is real or not, which

16:51

is like massive. And I don't think

16:53

you can really do that without the amount

16:56

of monologuing that happens. Plus, you

16:58

know, I also think that I'm

17:01

not anti-monologue. I'm not anti Mulder being

17:03

spun. The thing that really like stuck

17:06

out to me was I felt like

17:08

the the dialogue

17:10

between Mulder and Scully was like,

17:13

I thought unusually stiff. And

17:17

I guess that they're like going for

17:19

a thing and he's in a place and

17:21

whatever, but it just didn't feel a hundred

17:23

percent authentic. I thought

17:25

it felt like a little forced and Mulder is

17:27

like a little formal even when he is making

17:31

his little audio tape

17:34

when he's vlogging

17:36

for Scully. Oh

17:38

my God. While we were watching this episode, he goes,

17:41

what do you call an audio

17:43

blog? And I was like, a podcast?

17:47

Is Mulder making like the very

17:50

first podcast writer? Yeah, I mean,

17:52

yeah. The

17:56

other big thing I want to say about this

17:59

episode is that This is Jurassic Park.

18:01

This is X-Files Jurassic Park edition.

18:03

Fully, fully. The dinosaurs

18:05

and the aliens, they're all out there. They

18:09

are, and they're all in

18:11

sort of a tropical setting,

18:14

and there's always an abandoned building

18:16

full of electrical

18:18

equipment. Full of beep boops, you

18:21

know? Yeah. Yeah, a lot of beep

18:23

boops. Mulder

18:25

kind of sounds like a combination

18:27

of Laura Dern and

18:30

Muldoon, the actress

18:33

and character who go together

18:36

to collaborate for Dr. Ellie

18:39

Sattler to turn the power back

18:42

on Muldoon. Yeah, Muldoon. Uh-huh. I'm

18:45

here for it. So I'm just saying, like, you know, there's a

18:47

lot in the ether. Yeah.

18:51

We talked at the end of the

18:54

season, you know, a few months ago

18:56

about our favorite episodes, and

18:58

this is the tone that I am after.

19:01

This is why I signed up on the

19:03

dotted line that said, Kristen, do you solemnly

19:05

swear to take the X-Files

19:07

as your beloved

19:10

betrothed? And I said, yes. This

19:13

is my shit. I fucking loved it. So... Tremendous.

19:17

Yeah. And you know what? I

19:19

loved it, and I'm, you know, no offense to

19:22

me, me, but I'm an easy get. But

19:25

LaToya, LaToya

19:28

also, like, sort of her larger note was,

19:30

like, feeling this, you know, more so. Like,

19:33

this is... I can already tell by this episode

19:35

that, like, we're doing some shit. That's not a

19:37

direct quote, but I feel like, you

19:40

know, LaToya is more of a

19:42

critic by a lot than I am, and

19:44

so you have me dancing in

19:46

the streets, and LaToya is, like, nodding, you

19:48

know, a little bit of a smile

19:50

on her lips. So, let's go.

19:54

Let's fucking go. She's willing to hear more. Yeah,

19:56

exactly. Okay. Jenny,

20:00

the opening scene is unlike any scene I

20:03

think we've seen in the show to date.

20:05

It is a long monologue.

20:07

Space! I'm throwing down a file

20:09

folder just full of space on

20:12

your desk, Kristen. Space ever heard

20:14

of it? Space? AKA

20:16

the final frontier? My

20:21

first note was Mulder has seriously improved

20:23

his slideshow game. He has a fully

20:25

edited film for us at the start

20:27

of the episode. But

20:30

I thought this was really cool and it sent

20:32

me on a bit of

20:34

a deep dive on the Voyagers.

20:37

One and two sent into orbit

20:39

in 1977. I

20:42

apologize in advance if I say words that don't actually

20:44

mean what I think they mean. Like when I say

20:46

orbit, are they actually in orbit? Do you have to

20:48

be orbiting something to be in orbit? Are

20:51

they orbiting? Because I think they're just going, right? They're

20:53

just going. They're just going. They specifically, they

20:55

cite when the Voyager passed through. When

21:02

the craft left our solar system.

21:04

Yeah, exactly. So zoom! So I guess

21:06

orbit, I'm correcting myself. Jenny,

21:09

I find this whole thing fascinating because

21:12

as I'm sure most folks who watch the episode

21:14

know, this is all including

21:16

the later conversation on the

21:18

monitoring sites that were closed. This is

21:20

all factual. The Voyagers are real. They

21:23

are out there and they contain

21:26

the Golden Record. Voyager

21:28

1 and Voyager 2 each has a Golden Record

21:30

on it. And

21:33

Carl Sagan, of course, is

21:36

sort of at the helm of compiling

21:38

groups of folks and deciding what

21:40

is going to go on this record. And so

21:43

I did a little digging and I wanted to

21:45

talk about it if I could at the start.

21:47

Is that cool with you? Okay,

21:49

so there's music. As you know, we've

21:51

heard Bach is on there. A lot

21:53

of classical composers are on there. Is that

21:55

okay with you, Kristen? I've been waiting.

22:00

like 13, 15 years for you to be

22:02

like, can

22:05

I talk about the whole culture

22:07

of the record? Carry

22:09

on. Okay,

22:12

so these are the things that I found

22:14

fascinating. One, music is on it,

22:16

yes. Bach is on it,

22:18

Stravinsky, there is music sort of

22:21

from around the globe, from different

22:23

cultures, cool, cool, cool. The thing

22:25

I found very interesting is that

22:27

the controversial placement on the record

22:30

musically was Chuck Berry's Johnny B.

22:32

Goode. And the reason

22:34

for this was that some claimed that

22:36

rock music was quote, adolescent, to which

22:39

Carl Sagan replied, there are a lot

22:41

of adolescents on this planet. So

22:44

I think it's cool, A, that Johnny B.

22:46

Goode is on the record, and B, I

22:49

find it an interesting thing to

22:51

think about him. And most of the points that I pulled

22:53

are like, wow, when we think about how we want to

22:55

portray our planet to

23:00

another whatever,

23:02

I was gonna say species, but that isn't even right,

23:04

to another life form. It

23:06

brings up a lot about what's going on in our own

23:09

society. Carl Sagan

23:11

is now married to Andrian. I'm not

23:13

sure if they were married when this

23:15

was happening, but she was heavily involved

23:17

in this project as well. And there's

23:19

an hour long recording of her

23:22

brainwaves included on the Golden Record.

23:24

And during the recordings, yeah, during

23:27

the recordings, they had her think

23:29

of a lot of topics, including

23:31

the earth's history, civilizations, and the

23:33

problems they face, and what

23:36

it feels like to fall

23:38

in love. Wow. Isn't that so

23:40

cool? Oh. You think little

23:42

green men fall in love? Oh

23:44

my God, of course they do, Jenny. I

23:47

think, I do, I think love is probably

23:50

the only universe, love and war are

23:52

probably the only universal or meta

23:55

universals past the universe. You

23:58

know what I mean? Okay. Are

24:00

you still interested? I have more.

24:02

Yeah, of course Do

24:05

you know who was the sound

24:07

engineer on the Golden Record? I don't

24:11

Jimmy and I'm sorry. I'm not sure how

24:13

to pronounce his last name, but Jimmy Iovine

24:15

Ivan Jimmy, you know, you know the guy

24:18

This is one of the first projects he ever did

24:21

He was recommended by John Lennon who could not

24:24

Contribute and said this guy's good Um,

24:28

a little musical tidbit that I

24:31

think you specifically will find interesting

24:33

Jenny Is that the Beatles song

24:35

here comes the Sun was of

24:37

interest but the record company EMI

24:41

Asked for $50,000 for copyright

24:43

to put it on. That's it. Oh, yeah

24:47

And then last but not mean

24:49

yeah, you know, it's

24:51

very common now in record contracts When

24:54

you know, there is all this language

24:56

that's used to set sort of like the parameters

24:58

the boundaries whatever of a recording contract or a

25:01

publishing deal and the

25:04

universe is usually Standard

25:06

now as the sort of like

25:08

boundary of the con yeah I

25:11

mean, we're like and is this why yeah, we're

25:13

like days away from you know, Spotify

25:15

on the moon. So I understand Wait,

25:19

are we? No That's

25:21

not a fact that's just Kristen daydreaming or

25:23

dreaming or thinking so

25:27

the last thing that I want

25:29

to say about the Golden Record is As

25:33

a fact for me Kristen Russo because it's

25:36

about feminism there

25:38

are There's a drawing

25:40

there was so there were other things that were

25:42

set out into space called pioneer And there is

25:45

something on the pioneer called the pioneer plaque They

25:48

had line drawings of a naked man and

25:50

woman And in

25:52

those drawings the man is waving like his

25:54

hand is up in a gesture of like

25:57

hello And the woman is not and feminists

26:00

of the time in the 70s were like,

26:02

hey, this is fucked up. Like, do we

26:04

have to always, do we have to send

26:06

like the patriarchy into space? And

26:09

so on the voyagers,

26:11

the woman is waving, not

26:14

the man. And I thought that is such

26:16

a fun, like, I mean, the 1977, 2024,

26:18

but like, it's such a

26:22

fun little chomp of the

26:24

70s and 70s feminism and like it being

26:26

also a part of what we sent on

26:29

this record. So I just, I

26:31

was fascinated by the whole thing. And

26:33

I thought for me as a person

26:35

who's newer to obviously the X-Files, but

26:37

also just the idea

26:40

of how

26:42

seriously extraterrestrial life and

26:45

our contact with that life is taken.

26:48

This intro to the episode felt

26:51

really important to me because as a viewer

26:53

and as the many viewers at the time

26:55

who might not have been aware of how

26:58

serious this conversation is, I thought

27:00

it just like really grounded the

27:02

whole thing. And like, hey, actually,

27:05

this isn't made up. Like the

27:07

show is made up, but like

27:09

the US government, the governments of

27:11

this world are investing millions

27:13

and millions and millions of dollars

27:15

into these things. So

27:18

it's not just something that, you know, nerdy

27:20

high school boys sit around their computer fucking

27:22

around with, which I obviously didn't think that, but

27:24

I think that I just think

27:26

it's a cool thing that the show does to really

27:28

ground it in reality so that we can. Yeah. Well,

27:31

I think that the show wouldn't exist or

27:33

wouldn't have existed at the time if there

27:36

wasn't a real life reason,

27:38

like something that it could be

27:40

connected to or sort of springboard

27:42

off of. Yeah. Yeah.

27:45

You know? And it's weird now because like, I

27:47

think we talked about this a bunch when in

27:50

the episode when Mulder was like really geeking

27:52

out about the astronaut, but like we don't

27:54

like really hear about

27:57

the space program and its pursuit.

28:00

in the way that we used to hear about them.

28:02

Even when I was a kid growing up, it just

28:04

felt like a much, much bigger

28:07

deal. And probably, I'm gonna guess we were

28:09

spending more money or it was easier

28:11

to get things passed in

28:14

terms of government spending on

28:17

space program stuff. It just felt

28:20

a lot more exciting space-wise in the

28:22

90s. And I think

28:24

that's a big part of why this show is

28:27

what it is. Yeah. Well,

28:30

that's a great way to fucking start a season

28:32

and if I do say so myself. Let's

28:35

do that. Yeah,

28:39

we kick it off. We kick it off, like you said,

28:42

with a whole lot of Mulder, some space

28:45

B-roll and the story

28:47

of Voyager 1, Voyager 2 and

28:49

also the high resolution

28:51

microwave survey in

28:54

Arecibo, Puerto Rico. Did that location

28:56

ping for you, Kristen? It pinged for me?

28:59

It did. Jenny and I

29:01

lived in Brooklyn, lived in New York

29:03

City for a very long time and

29:05

the car service in Brooklyn

29:07

before Uber and Lyft were

29:09

a thing was called Arecibo.

29:12

So, I heard the hold

29:15

music for Arecibo. So many times.

29:17

Yeah, and this is what it sounded like.

29:19

The music for Arecibo Hold should

29:22

have been on the Golden

29:24

Record. It goes like this. Doo

29:26

doo doo doo doo doo doo

29:28

doo doo doo doo doo doo

29:30

doo Doo

29:34

doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

29:36

doo doo doo doo doo doo

29:38

doo. Do

29:43

also say, somebody or,

29:46

you know what, actually I'm gonna say, I have to say,

29:48

I was just gonna say, can someone please call them and

29:50

see if the whole music is the same? Don't do it. I'll

29:52

call them. I'll call them out for us. So that 400

29:54

people aren't calling Arecibo and not needing a

29:56

car. Cause they still are there. They are

29:58

still, despite the law, lift an Uber

30:00

of it all the last I checked, Arecibo was

30:02

still running their car service out of Brooklyn. Okay.

30:08

So we go to the

30:10

credits right after this whole sort of

30:12

like informational, very

30:14

visual, moving situation in the

30:17

jump. I watch- Well,

30:19

and hey, let's not leave out that just

30:22

as Mulder finishes his little monologue,

30:24

all these machines in

30:26

Arecibo spring to life

30:29

after being turned off for who knows

30:31

how long. Yeah. They're

30:33

beeping and boffin. And these Brandenburg Concerto comes screaming

30:36

back to earth. Okay. So

30:38

after the credits, we see

30:40

the biggest- this is too many

30:42

sunflowers. This is upsetting. This is

30:44

upsetting. This is upsetting for a

30:46

variety of reasons. Go

30:51

ahead. Tell me all the reasons, Jenny. Okay.

30:54

First of all, he's got a huge

30:56

bag of sunflower seeds that he hasn't eaten yet.

30:59

And they're just like in a heap. They're just

31:01

like, you know, when you like are driving

31:03

around and you see like a huge in

31:06

where I live, I'm right on the coast and there's, I

31:09

think just like salt, like a mountain

31:11

of salt right

31:13

on the coast and like a little yard where I don't

31:15

know, they're distributing that salt

31:17

slowly but surely, but how could they ever

31:19

distribute it all? Because there's so much, it's enormous. Just

31:22

like the quantity of sunflower

31:24

seeds that we're looking at

31:26

here, the remnants of

31:28

the sunflower seeds that he has eaten,

31:30

all of the broken shredded

31:33

shells are collecting in an

31:35

equally gigantic pile around Mulder's

31:37

feet. This is disgusting. It

31:40

is compounded by the fact that

31:42

he looks like he is- he has

31:44

been set up by the FBI to do

31:46

this surveillance to conduct his work in

31:49

like Buffalo Bill's well

31:52

in Silence of the Land. The paint

31:54

is peeling. It looks very moist. Like

31:57

the light source is chilling.

32:00

where you go to get skinned. This

32:02

is not a place where you go to collect your

32:05

government paycheck doing,

32:08

I don't know, this

32:10

work. He also is like

32:14

really giving squirrel on a bird feeder.

32:16

I don't

32:19

care for any of this. Oh also,

32:21

oh no, terrible news. Mulder

32:24

lost a bet and he got a bad haircut.

32:27

You know, they style

32:29

it like he's a little boy and I don't.

32:31

He looks like a little boy and Kristen I

32:33

have really bad news. It's gonna

32:36

get worse before it gets better. It's

32:38

gonna get worse before it gets better. I'm

32:40

sorry. I guess you can't have Mulder at

32:42

his Mulder-ist if you

32:44

don't take him at his

32:47

little boy. Yeah, I

32:49

agree with you. The way that you just

32:51

described these shells on the floor made me

32:53

think, oh the sunflower seeds are like a

32:56

metaphor for Mulder. He is one of the

32:58

empty shells on the floor, devoid of all

33:00

of his former beliefs and no. Jenny's

33:02

looking at me like you fucking idiot, why did I ever

33:04

sign up to make a podcast with you?

33:07

Jenny, listen, the tape, the recording that Mulder is

33:09

listening to is

33:17

some folks talking about strippers. We

33:20

hear about them at the beginning and the

33:22

end but my favorite part is that this

33:25

stripper named Tuesday was dancing to Come Out

33:27

and Play by Offspring. I am

33:29

so excited about this choice. Tuesday,

33:32

great job. I wish better

33:34

for you than these men

33:37

because you are making incredible

33:39

artistic choices and I support you. Elsewhere

33:43

in the District of Columbia,

33:46

Scully is now teaching the fine art

33:48

of cranium

33:51

opening. I know I

33:53

wrote in my notes, how dare I have

33:55

questioned her ability to do autopsies. Now she

33:57

is teaching people how to do that.

34:00

I am ashamed. But

34:02

she's not doing it by the

34:05

book. John Mark, roll

34:07

that beautiful soundclap. What

34:09

this man imagined, his

34:13

dreams, who

34:15

he loved, saw, heard,

34:17

remembered, what

34:20

he feared. Somehow

34:23

it's all

34:26

locked in this small mass of tissue and

34:28

fluid. Are

34:31

you okay, Agent Scully? You kind

34:34

of sounded a little spooky. Um,

34:37

couple things. LaToya

34:43

and I are of one mind about this.

34:48

LaToya said, okay, maybe I

34:50

just don't know what spooky means, or

34:52

maybe this show doesn't, because

34:55

in that moment, Scully and this show finally

34:57

sounded like someone who cared about victims unlike

35:00

the first season. Uh,

35:03

I feel like the shameless seeding

35:06

of the word spooky, putting the word

35:08

spooky in everyone's mouth, no

35:11

matter the circumstance, just

35:13

to sort of build the lore to

35:15

amplify the legend of Special

35:18

Agent Foxmulder, uh, is just, it's

35:20

just a little heavy-handed. Yeah, spooky

35:22

has come to encompass doing

35:25

anything that is not simply, like,

35:27

procedural and devoid of feeling and

35:30

emotion. Like, if you, if

35:32

you come to the room with anything

35:34

that is beyond, and you cut

35:36

the skull open, and you remove the brain,

35:38

then you are in this universe dubbed

35:41

spooky. Um, if I go

35:43

to a class, and the woman who's teaching

35:45

me how to open somebody's skull to

35:47

determine their cause of death is, like,

35:49

this man's dreams, I would be a

35:51

little, like, is there another teacher that

35:54

has an opening? Um,

35:59

I... This is a moment

36:01

that also should clang and I'm

36:04

sure clanged for 98% of viewers.

36:09

2% includes Chris Russo. I was like, I was

36:11

dying. I loved it. I

36:13

fucking loved it. I was like, oh, yeah.

36:15

Spooky. What are the odds? Bring me this

36:17

fucking girl to call in Dr. Scully spooky

36:20

so that I get to understand the plot

36:22

of this episode. You know what I mean?

36:24

I love it. Yeah. Yeah.

36:28

Okay. I love your funny. I

36:30

am upset to say to everyone

36:32

that despite this episode having so

36:34

many moments that seem like literally

36:36

none of our business, these

36:39

two did not earn significant eye

36:42

contact. They are always doing their

36:44

romantically sexy things when the other

36:46

person is not looking at them.

36:49

So I can't give them a

36:52

tally. But the way that Scully

36:54

looks at Mulder when she

36:56

sees him in the FBI

36:59

headquarters or wherever the fuck,

37:01

it's like she passes him on the way to

37:03

fifth period and she's like, hi, Mulder. She's

37:06

full Angela Chase looking at Jordan Catalano, like

37:08

full 100%. He

37:13

does not even know down. I

37:16

guess speaking of Jordan Catalano, he

37:18

really picks up that energy

37:20

and doesn't fear. I said wow, because my

37:23

feelings were hurt and I was embarrassed for

37:25

her. I didn't care for this. When

37:28

Mulder gets back to his desk, the

37:31

framed photo that he keeps on his desk

37:33

is flipped down. It's a message.

37:36

He flips it up. There's a post-it note.

37:39

It's blank. Over the... It's blank.

37:42

But it's obscuring the picture of

37:44

his sister underneath. I

37:47

have thoughts. Okay. First

37:51

of all, we learn that this is

37:53

like their signal to each other. I

37:57

write in my notes, Jenny, why not just

37:59

like... leave him a Snickers bar. Like

38:01

it just feels like to take

38:03

a post-it, to cover Samantha Mulder's

38:05

childhood face, to flip it down

38:07

on the desk. Just leaving

38:10

a Snickers bar for my good pal Mulder. Doesn't

38:12

that seem easier and less obvious

38:15

and less noticeable than this move?

38:18

Yeah, pick anything else, guys. My

38:21

second comment, which is inside of

38:23

the show universe, because the third one is not.

38:25

My second comment is Mulder

38:27

has a desk upstairs, and I hate to

38:30

see it. I was so upset. I was

38:32

like, oh my god, this is his desk.

38:35

Not only did they close the X-Files, but they were

38:37

like, you can't be down here anymore. You have to

38:39

be up at a regular desk in

38:41

the sobering light of day

38:43

amongst your FBI brethren and

38:48

with heat. The

38:51

third thing I have to say is this is

38:53

a real request. Do not call Arecibo the car

38:55

service in Brooklyn, unless you yourself meet a

38:57

car in Brooklyn. But I

39:00

want, more than anything, this

39:03

scene. But when Mulder pulls

39:05

the post-it note away, it's a

39:08

picture of the drawing of the Jersey Devil. I

39:11

think I've earned it. I

39:13

deserve it. And someone out there will

39:15

make it for me, and I will

39:17

be happy. So thank

39:19

you for listening. Good people of the listenership. Give

39:22

Kristin that which she has truly

39:25

earned. Thank you. OK,

39:27

so they meet up in an underground parking garage. Scully

39:31

is like, you look like Deep Throat from

39:33

far away, which is such a weird thing. Because

39:35

A, no, he doesn't. And B, what

39:38

a weird thing to say. You look like

39:40

you're dead, former informant. I

39:43

just am confused. Yeah,

39:45

I actually, so Latoya also said,

39:47

this doesn't look like Deep Throat. I literally,

39:50

when I watched it for the first time, was

39:52

like, Deep Throat? OK, so for the 2%? Yeah,

39:57

mostly it was, I think they did something where

39:59

they gave it. him wider shoulders or

40:01

something in the silhouette. But

40:04

yeah, I mean, the whole the watergate of

40:06

it all is very

40:08

fun. The deep throat watergate

40:10

overlap here. And I don't

40:13

know. I mean, I guess like you looked like him,

40:16

even though he was like his former informant,

40:19

deep throat also was like up, up, up. I

40:21

mean, we don't really know all there is to know

40:23

about deep throat yet. But what we can presume

40:26

is that he was really far

40:28

up this ladder of knowledge when

40:30

it came to extraterrestrial life. And

40:33

maybe it's just sort of this signal

40:35

from Scully that like, I

40:37

mean, because Scully's vibe is like, like,

40:40

can you believe you said you believe you want

40:42

I want you to believe

40:44

is actually Scully's poster. And

40:46

so maybe she's like reaching for that

40:49

that like, if you just keep climbing,

40:51

right, you you're gonna get further up

40:53

this ladder and you're gonna get closer to

40:55

the truth. Mulder doesn't even

40:57

get to have his sick UFO poster.

40:59

Now that he's up there, I think

41:01

it's like rolled up in a sad

41:03

little Yeah. Oh,

41:06

yeah. Alright, so this is and

41:08

I mean, I guess I kind of gave

41:10

a bit of a nod to it already. But

41:12

this is an exchange that lets us know

41:14

a that Mulder is panicked because

41:17

his phone has been tapped, he feels that

41:19

he's being watched, etc. And yeah, he doesn't

41:21

think it's safe for them to meet. Right.

41:24

And Scott, which I think in the beginning

41:26

is why he's like often another universe is

41:28

like he's just trying to keep his head

41:30

down, so to speak. But also he does

41:32

not know what to believe anymore. And

41:35

he tells Scully this story.

41:38

First he says, Have you

41:40

ever been to San Diego, which is a

41:42

classic Mulder opening to a story. But

41:46

he talks about the Palomar Observatory and

41:48

that from the 1940s until recently

41:52

in their universe, it was the largest telescope

41:54

in the world. It was

41:56

designed by this guy named George Hale. But

41:58

the idea came to him an elf

42:00

climbed in his window and told him

42:02

to get money from the Rockefellers to

42:04

build a telescope. We've all

42:06

been there. Yeah. And so

42:08

Scully says, you're worried that you've been

42:10

seeing elves this whole time. And then

42:12

we get the title honk, in my

42:14

case, Little Green Man.

42:18

But I think that her response to

42:20

this is important, Jenny. Do you? Yeah.

42:23

She's like, elves or no? The

42:26

important thing is that the telescope got built. Yay!

42:29

And Mulder is like, I need

42:32

something to hold on to. And

42:34

Scully grasping at absolute straws.

42:37

It's like, you, hmm, you've

42:40

held on to what can I bring

42:42

up that won't feel bad

42:44

for me to bring up your sister's abduction?

42:49

To which

42:52

Mulder says he's beginning to wonder if that ever

42:55

really happened.

42:58

That's right. I'm on with my dude. He

43:02

needs the care of a good

43:04

mental health counselor, I think,

43:06

because he's really struggling. So

43:12

essentially, Scully says, don't

43:14

give up. And

43:18

the next time we meet, we're meeting in

43:20

the open. She wants him to let

43:22

go of this idea that it's dangerous for

43:24

them to be seen together. Then

43:27

she takes all five of

43:29

her fingers, fingies,

43:31

if you will, and puts them

43:33

on the crown of his

43:38

head and does a little squeeze.

43:41

Have you ever touched someone's head that

43:43

wasn't a small child who you loved

43:45

or someone who you

43:47

actively were in relationship with like

43:49

this? Jenny? Yeah, no. No.

43:53

Gosh, no. No. I

43:55

don't know how to jingle for significant head grab,

43:57

but I don't. Wow,

44:02

how about this casting of young Fox Mulder?

44:04

Sounding. Pretty great,

44:06

pretty great. He's

44:08

a little shit, which like of course young

44:10

Fox Mulder is a little shit. A hundred

44:13

percent yes. It's a cool

44:15

transition because we go from the Watergate parking

44:17

lot to the Watergate scandal that has just,

44:19

you know, broken and is on the news.

44:23

And Samantha and Fox are there playing. I

44:25

actually didn't look into what this board game

44:27

was. I did look into the show that

44:29

he wanted to watch, but not the board game. It's

44:32

Stratego. You never played Stratego? I

44:34

didn't. Also, I'm like, is it a

44:37

hard? Stratego. Stratego.

44:40

Stratego. I don't know if I'm

44:42

saying it right. I

44:47

formally declared that it's Stratego from now on.

44:50

Okay. Wait, is it a fun game though? Oh

44:53

my god, I have no idea. Oh, you haven't played it. I

44:55

think you were like, you

44:57

know, poking at

44:59

me for never having played it. No,

45:02

no, no, no, no. All right. So

45:05

he wants to watch this show called The

45:07

Magician, which like I've already taken you on some deep

45:09

dives, so I won't take you on another though. It

45:11

is fun. But The

45:13

Magician was a one season television series

45:15

that ran from 73 to 74. And

45:20

it starred Bill Bixby as a

45:22

stage illusionist. It's about a

45:24

magician who basically gets out of jail,

45:28

gets cleared on his charges, and

45:30

then uses his magic to free

45:32

people from unjust imprisonment.

45:35

I'm putting a little bit on the summary,

45:37

but I was like, go on. Anyway,

45:42

Jenny, you're a little sister. I'm

45:46

a big sister, but I

45:48

have a little sister. Samantha

45:51

standing in his face. The

45:54

direct face scream. Accurate.

45:58

I've definitely. seen

46:00

it done if not done it myself. Yeah

46:05

same I can see my sister

46:07

doing this into my face so yeah

46:09

that's how you know she's really his sister.

46:12

Yeah yeah. Here

46:14

we are at the moment of Samantha's abduction

46:16

which differs from the

46:19

abduction that Fox describes in the

46:21

hypnotherapy tape that we hear in

46:23

season one rather than

46:25

Fox being frozen

46:27

in his bed and watching this happen

46:30

there hanging out in the living

46:32

room playing a board game TV's

46:34

on things start to rattle the

46:37

lights go out red lights flash outside

46:40

the door opens we see a silhouette

46:42

of whom could only be a little

46:44

green man. I look large actually rather

46:46

stretch I would call him a stretchy

46:49

green man. A stretchy gray man but

46:51

sure yeah Samantha

46:54

floats right out

46:56

of the house and Mulder

46:59

wakes up a man

47:01

has opened his apartment door

47:03

and says we're going to

47:05

the hill. Anything to say about Mulder's

47:08

wardrobe in this wake-up

47:10

scene? Oh yeah I would like to take

47:12

us back for one second to the

47:14

abduction scene because I have a couple

47:17

of questions for you one

47:20

did you like this scene? Yeah

47:22

yes why does it feel like a trap? No it's

47:24

not a trap I just like you know the stretchy

47:26

man I was like okay it's 1994 I'll let it

47:30

have some room but the floating Samantha I

47:32

just thought was really cool oh yeah and

47:35

I wanted to say so and I

47:38

wanted to see what you thought if you agreed and then

47:41

the other thing is I don't know if you can but

47:43

Latoya did ask because Latoya

47:46

in her production notes wrote that

47:48

there's this inconsistency which you noted

47:51

Jenny but Latoya says and quotes

47:53

this was due to Morgan and

47:55

Wong writing this episode without seeing

47:57

conduit written by Howard Gordon

48:00

and Alex Gonsa. According to Chris Carter,

48:02

a possible explanation for the inconsistency may

48:04

be due to the fact that Mulder's

48:07

memories were derived from hypnotic regression, blah

48:09

blah blah, commented Morgan, Chris Carter made

48:11

that up later. Once we realized the

48:14

discrepancy, I ran into Howard's office and

48:16

said, why didn't you say anything? And

48:18

he said, didn't you read my script?

48:20

It was pretty embarrassing. But

48:24

Latoya asked Jenny if you were able to

48:27

speak at all without going too far into

48:29

spoiler territory. To whether or not

48:31

Mulder's dream flashback becomes a retcon for the

48:33

show or if it sort

48:35

of fits into the realm of making it. So we

48:37

have to question how real the whole thing. What

48:40

if I told you, I don't remember.

48:43

You're speaking to the right girl. I

48:45

can understand that deeply. I have a

48:47

feeling that they're going to go full

48:49

retcon and we're never going to hear

48:51

anything about the description in the hypnotherapy

48:54

tape again. Yeah. I just

48:56

love the idea of Chris Carter being like, well,

48:58

I mean, you see. Okay.

49:02

So yes, I have a lot to say about

49:04

Angel. I mean, Mulder waking

49:06

up in his, he

49:09

has a full Angel trifecta. He's

49:11

got lighting from the mini blinds.

49:13

He's got a shirt that is

49:15

unbuttoned and he is sweaty. Not

49:17

as sweaty as he'll get, but

49:19

sweaty. Okay. So

49:21

true. Yeah. All

49:24

right. Where are we going on the Hill?

49:26

Why to Senator Matheson's

49:28

office. And now I must

49:30

say why are low given

49:32

that I live and breathe. Is

49:38

our low in the first few episodes

49:40

of justify like he's in it from

49:42

the jump. He's in it from, from

49:45

pretty early on he's, he's Raylan

49:48

Givens father. Yeah. Cause I,

49:50

I only have seen maybe the first season

49:52

of justified. I don't even think I finished

49:54

the first season, but I recognized him this

49:56

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49:58

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54:52

this man has a fucking bed. I

54:54

have not seen it. Yeah

54:57

and you won't see it for a good while Kristen. All

55:00

right so Matheson tells Mulder what he

55:02

already knows about the Voyager he's playing Bach.

55:05

Why does Mulder say Bach the way

55:07

he says Bach? He says he says

55:09

it as though he has phlegm stuck

55:12

in the back of his throat every

55:14

time. He's like Bach. It

55:18

was not a one-time utterance. It was like every

55:20

time he said Bach. Maybe

55:24

because Johann Sebastian Bach

55:26

was German and Mulder

55:29

feels like he really needs to lean

55:31

into the sort of German

55:34

ways. Perhaps.

55:37

Okay so Mulder and

55:39

Matheson have a pre-existing probably

55:42

long-standing relationship because Mulder

55:45

says to Matheson like I'm sorry I like

55:47

how many how

55:49

many times you think Mulder has

55:51

said the sentence you've supported me

55:53

at great risk to your reputation.

55:55

He fucking loves talking about great

55:58

risk. It's his favorite kind. of

56:00

risk to talk about. Yeah, yeah.

56:02

And especially what it is at

56:04

someone's reputation because of naughty little

56:06

Mulder. That's

56:09

Mulder's biggest kink. Tell

56:13

me I'm a great risk to your reputation, you

56:15

know, that's what he says. Anyway,

56:21

he's telling Mathison that like he supported

56:23

him and he thinks that they were

56:25

close and blah, blah, blah. And

56:27

then Mathison is like, hey, why don't

56:29

we play this box song again and

56:31

write on a little piece of paper

56:33

they may be listening. Why

56:36

wouldn't you write that down before he gets there?

56:38

You know, because he had a hard to like

56:40

interact with someone and write something down at the

56:42

same time. Yeah. Well, I mean,

56:44

Mathison is a dramatic flair to him.

56:47

He wanted to stand with his back

56:49

facing Mulder. I

56:51

think you have not

56:53

only perhaps supported each other in the extraterrestrial

56:56

realm, but maybe fucked. I'm just putting it

56:58

out there. So

57:01

that's why he has been a great risk. Exactly.

57:05

You know, senators can't have that kind

57:07

of rumor going around even in this day and age.

57:10

They don't like to see it. The

57:13

senator cranks the Brandenburg

57:16

concerto. It's like they

57:19

stand with their

57:21

faces so close

57:24

together. So

57:30

close to discuss the

57:33

radio telescope down in Arecibo that

57:37

Mulder needs to get to you before the

57:39

blue berets arrive because they can use terminal

57:41

four. Don't you think that

57:44

like blue beret just doesn't seem scary?

57:46

I just don't sound like like red.

57:51

I don't know. I'm probably I don't know

57:53

what all these berets are, but like a

57:55

black beret or a red beret or like

57:57

a gray beret, but a blue beret. Yeah.

58:01

Mm, Mathison says that the blue

58:03

berets are going to kill. Like,

58:06

they are authorized to kill. So Mulder

58:08

better fucking get his Timberlands on and

58:10

scoot to Puerto Rico as quick as

58:12

possible. Mulder

58:15

wants to know what they're looking for. And

58:17

Jenny, it is Compact starring

58:20

Jodie Foster. Yeah.

58:24

I feel like I don't know if it's

58:26

an illusion, but it felt watching this episode

58:29

like Mulder says Contact like 47 times. Contact

58:32

and evidence are his two buzzwords

58:34

to sap. OK,

58:36

Skinner had a little chat with Scully, and

58:39

he taped it. Rude. Rude.

58:41

Now he's playing it for Gossip King

58:43

cigarette smoking man. Smoking man is such

58:45

a little bitch in season two. Like,

58:48

his fucking eating a honey. Will you

58:50

say he's smug? Yes, I feel like

58:52

he's smug. I do. I think that

58:54

smoke right now, as of episode one,

58:58

the smuggest bitch of season two is

59:00

definitely the smugest bitch by a fucking

59:02

landslide. Skinner's questioning Scully

59:04

about Mulder's whereabouts, and Skinner is

59:07

talking to the cigarette smoking man.

59:09

He's like, she definitely

59:11

doesn't know where he is, because if she

59:13

knew where he was, she wouldn't be so

59:15

worried about him. Skinner's

59:19

holding up his two pointer fingers and

59:21

putting them together. Putting them together. All

59:25

right, once again, Mulder is going

59:28

somewhere on the back or on the

59:30

bottom of a truck. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And

59:32

looking great doing it. Oh, sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

59:34

Before you get to the truck, I

59:36

just want to I want to

59:38

highlight something, because the smoking man's

59:40

smoking becomes this incredible

59:42

metaphor in the episode, and

59:44

it begins here with Skinner.

59:48

Smoking man is out of cigarettes, which as

59:50

if. Come on. He's

59:52

out of cigarettes, and Skinner very

59:54

pointedly says he does not smoke.

59:57

And the smoking man is so

59:59

up-matt. at him and crumples up

1:00:01

the cigarettes and leaves. So just put

1:00:03

that in your pocket because at the

1:00:06

end of the episode the cigarette comes,

1:00:08

I just feel like the

1:00:10

cigarette is a symbol of a thing but

1:00:12

we have to start there with the like

1:00:14

fact that Skinner does not smoke in this

1:00:16

office with this smoking man and does

1:00:19

not share some of the smoking man's habits and

1:00:22

we'll get, well I just want to set it up and

1:00:24

then I'll knock it down at the end. Ahhh!

1:00:30

Okay, so down in

1:00:32

Arecibo, Smolder is just

1:00:35

sweating through his shirt, he's got

1:00:37

his timberlands tied tight, he's

1:00:40

ready for a little

1:00:43

hike through the tropical forest. This

1:00:45

is, I kind of wrote an

1:00:47

erotic novel for myself in this

1:00:50

scene. It

1:00:52

goes, this fucking outfit get

1:00:55

out of here fox, sleeveless

1:00:57

grey tee, denim shirt, jeans,

1:00:59

timberland boots, sunglasses, kill me?

1:01:01

So sweaty. His little backpack.

1:01:07

He packed two things, a voice

1:01:09

recorder and bolt cutters. Just the essentials

1:01:12

ma'am. Yep, yep, yep. In my

1:01:14

carry on. I call this

1:01:16

his Dale Cooper diary, you

1:01:19

know, he's like, oh yeah, like

1:01:21

Dale Cooper is to Diane as

1:01:23

Fox Smolder is to Scully. Oh

1:01:28

my god, and Diane is Laura Dern.

1:01:30

It's all coming together! Okay,

1:01:36

uh huh, uh huh. Um, Scully has

1:01:38

a really special skill set that I

1:01:40

have now seen more than one time

1:01:42

in this series and it is guessing

1:01:44

passwords. I am proud of

1:01:46

her for her efforts. Let's

1:01:48

consider a couple things that go

1:01:50

on in this apartment. First

1:01:53

we have the, we have the password. Three,

1:01:56

she gets it in three guesses. Spooky?

1:01:58

No, he would never. Samantha

1:02:00

too obvious Trust

1:02:03

no one with a one. I

1:02:05

don't buy that Mulder would do

1:02:09

the digit It just

1:02:11

doesn't seem like his vibe. I agree. I was

1:02:13

very thrown by the digit Do you have

1:02:15

any other password guesses even though we know

1:02:17

the answer is trust no number one? This

1:02:21

just feels like a really serious endeavor and I don't want

1:02:23

to just like say stuff just to

1:02:25

say it Yeah, I'm gonna like Keep

1:02:28

this close to my heart and I'm gonna be thinking about it

1:02:31

Tonight and tomorrow night

1:02:33

and hopefully I'll come up with some

1:02:35

good Mulderian passwords Soon

1:02:38

the other really important thing that happens Scully

1:02:43

listens to his messages and there is

1:02:45

a woman on his answering machine saying

1:02:47

Mulder You hounded me to

1:02:49

have lunch with you and then you

1:02:52

don't show you're a pig and Scully

1:02:55

has a very subtle

1:02:59

Facial reaction to this. What did you make

1:03:02

of it? I Mean,

1:03:04

I think at this point. I think

1:03:06

part of the attraction

1:03:09

is like Mulder's Muldering

1:03:13

and this is one of the ways that

1:03:15

Mulder Mulder's, you know, like I I did

1:03:17

not get from Scully that she was like

1:03:20

Jealous that it wasn't like a simple One-to-one

1:03:24

situation it felt

1:03:26

more like of course, you know,

1:03:28

like of course he's Mulder

1:03:33

Yeah, it has a distinct flavor

1:03:36

of more for me Jenny

1:03:42

I think that my favorite sneaky move

1:03:44

of the series to date Is

1:03:48

Scully spilling the fish food so

1:03:50

that she can use the trash

1:03:53

That's FBI. The FBI guys look at

1:03:55

this piece of paper, which we later

1:03:57

learn is like massively important and they're

1:03:59

like That looks like a printer

1:04:01

just calibrating. It's so gross. It'll

1:04:04

work. And then Scully, and this

1:04:06

is, and I wonder if we'll see more of

1:04:08

this, and I hope that we do, because I

1:04:10

think that Scully is able

1:04:12

to get away with shit that

1:04:15

a man would not be able

1:04:17

to because she is underestimated. And

1:04:20

this seems like one of those

1:04:22

moments. She spills the

1:04:24

fish food and the guys are like, just throw

1:04:26

it all in there. Women. Yeah.

1:04:29

And then she's like, that would be bad

1:04:31

for the fish. And I just feel like

1:04:33

she's really leaning into like, I'm the girl

1:04:35

in the room and I'm going to use

1:04:38

that because they'll

1:04:40

be like, oh, women exactly.

1:04:42

And she can scoop the fish food into this

1:04:44

document that she needs. But now smells like fish

1:04:46

food. Sweat

1:04:51

meter is about to bust off the fucking

1:04:53

chart. And the

1:04:55

older is he is sweating cups

1:04:57

and cups. He did not bring

1:04:59

enough water. I hate to break it

1:05:01

to everyone, but the man needs way more

1:05:04

water with him than he has. Yeah.

1:05:07

Does this get a flashlight count, Jenny? This

1:05:10

is a ginormous flashlight, but it is

1:05:12

a flashlight. Oh, yeah.

1:05:14

Yeah. Yeah. We

1:05:16

don't discriminate against gigantic flashlight.

1:05:20

If we if Mulder and Scully rolled

1:05:22

up to a film premiere and they

1:05:24

had those huge light cans like sweeping

1:05:26

the sky, that would count in my books.

1:05:29

Amazing. OK,

1:05:31

there's a guy in the bath. There's no easy way

1:05:33

to say this, Chris. And there's a guy in the

1:05:35

bathroom. His name is Jorge. He

1:05:37

is scared. He saw lights in the sky. He

1:05:40

thought it was a plane. It came from

1:05:42

the trees when it arrived. And

1:05:44

then here's where the translation got

1:05:47

a little funky for me. What

1:05:50

I got from the translation was I

1:05:52

saw men like animals, but not men.

1:05:55

I feel like that's there's

1:05:57

probably something getting lost in this translation.

1:06:00

The word-for-word translation in the

1:06:02

script. So oh Okay,

1:06:05

I think you're I think it is

1:06:07

right like I saw men like animals

1:06:09

But not I think it's just him

1:06:12

like they weren't it wasn't

1:06:14

a man and it wasn't an animal Yeah,

1:06:16

I think it's him reasoning through that And

1:06:19

he says they grabbed me and put me

1:06:21

here and they're still in the forest was

1:06:24

the bathroom I Locked

1:06:27

from the outside. Was he just hiding? Oh, I interpreted

1:06:31

it as like he knew he was like

1:06:33

aware that he had to stay inside there

1:06:35

and if he didn't stay inside there They

1:06:37

would find him or get him So

1:06:40

I don't think it was locked. I think he

1:06:43

was just terrified and traumatized

1:06:45

I also My Spanish

1:06:47

is not as good as yours because at

1:06:49

first when I watched this I understood

1:06:52

everything until He

1:06:55

said hombres and I thought what he was

1:06:57

saying was that he was with men and

1:06:59

those men taken So

1:07:02

I had to go and like look up

1:07:04

what exactly he said, but don't worry because

1:07:07

the universal language is drawing

1:07:12

Is what did you say drawing

1:07:15

drawing drawing things? Yeah. Yeah

1:07:17

art is of course Universal and

1:07:19

we get another award-winning piece

1:07:23

of art in this episode When

1:07:25

Jorge draws a freakin what can

1:07:27

only be the face of an alien?

1:07:30

I mean It's almost the alien emoji.

1:07:32

You know what I mean? Jorge was

1:07:34

ahead of his time. Yeah. Yeah.

1:07:36

Yeah. Yeah Also,

1:07:38

I love that Mulder like the top profiler

1:07:40

at the FBI celebrated

1:07:44

friggin agent, etc Got

1:07:46

like heard all of that and it was like men

1:07:49

you say I just think we heard you say the word

1:07:51

men Yeah, and the only thing

1:07:53

he heard was ombre like I would just

1:07:55

I don't know I mean, I

1:07:57

would think that perhaps being bloom

1:08:00

maybe not fluent, but being a little bit more...

1:08:03

I think Mulder should know more Spanish than you

1:08:05

and I do, is what I'm trying to say.

1:08:07

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay,

1:08:09

so we're at now... So, first

1:08:12

of all, what I haven't said is that

1:08:15

I love the fact that when Skinner and

1:08:17

the Smoking Man are together, they're basically like,

1:08:19

she'll find him for us. Like, they know

1:08:21

that Scully is gonna do the fucking work

1:08:23

that they need to do, and so they're

1:08:25

just letting her go. Yeah. And

1:08:28

so the first thing she does is she takes this piece

1:08:30

of paper to the U.S. Naval Observatory and she talks to

1:08:32

this dude who I love this guy. I would love to

1:08:34

have a beer with this guy. And

1:08:37

she learns about the Wow! signal,

1:08:39

which is a real thing, Jenny,

1:08:41

and something I found very fun

1:08:43

because you know your signature phrases,

1:08:45

wow. This

1:08:48

is what this dude wrote in

1:08:50

the margins when he saw this code, wow.

1:08:55

The signal that he was writing

1:08:57

about, Jenny, the signal appeared to

1:08:59

come from the direction of the

1:09:02

constellation Sagittarius. This is

1:09:04

me. That's you. This is your

1:09:06

wow. Jenny O'Nams' wow is the wow.

1:09:09

Just incredible. So yeah, this is a

1:09:11

signal that is 30

1:09:13

times stronger than galactic background

1:09:16

noise. And this

1:09:18

guy says, that was incredible. This

1:09:20

what you have here is even better. He

1:09:24

tells her about what's going on down in

1:09:26

Arecibo. Yeah, he gives

1:09:28

her like, he asks her where it's

1:09:30

from and she says, can you tell

1:09:32

me? And then he lists like six

1:09:35

locations that could pick up,

1:09:37

you know, it would be great if

1:09:39

it was just Arecibo because Scully has a

1:09:41

stack of fucking flight manifestos in front of

1:09:43

her that are like 40 feet tall

1:09:45

because she has to go through all of the places that

1:09:47

he said. She

1:09:51

finds Mulder pretty quick. It

1:09:53

really cracked me up because it looks like when they

1:09:55

zoom in on her pointing finger, it looks like she's

1:09:57

pointing to Betty Graham. Some

1:10:01

Mulder's alias was Betty Grant, but

1:10:03

it's actually Georgie Hale, the guy

1:10:05

with the elves. He built

1:10:07

the telescope. That's the name Mulder is. Using

1:10:10

the good old days, Kristin, when anyone

1:10:12

could get on any plane... Oh my

1:10:14

god. Oh no. Using whatever

1:10:17

name they felt like using. Whatever

1:10:19

name! One ticket for George Hale,

1:10:21

please. I mean... What?

1:10:24

We don't know what name Scully used, do we? Do

1:10:26

we have any guesses on what Scully used to travel?

1:10:30

Oh my god. What's

1:10:32

the name of an elf from Lord of the Rings?

1:10:36

Arwen. Maybe, maybe her name

1:10:38

was... Dana

1:10:42

Arwen Hale. Arwen... Okay,

1:10:47

so back in the control room. Also

1:10:49

please email us at hello at bufferingcast

1:10:51

with either your thoughts on what Mulder's

1:10:53

password might be and or what Scully's

1:10:56

flying name might be. We would love

1:10:58

to share some of those next episodes. Cool.

1:11:01

So, I love Jorge. I'm

1:11:04

sad that we lose Jorge. Jorge has

1:11:06

calmed down enough to start beep boop

1:11:08

boppin' all over the control room. He's

1:11:10

just like pressing buttons for fun. And

1:11:16

in addition to Ombre, Mulder

1:11:18

also knows the word for red, which is rojo,

1:11:20

and he says no ho on the rojo.

1:11:24

Please don't touch those buttons, Jorge. And

1:11:26

Jorge's like, chill, you got it. But then,

1:11:28

uh oh, the tape machine starts

1:11:31

playing and Jorge is like, absolutely

1:11:33

not, I cannot hang. He

1:11:35

runs out into the storm.

1:11:37

It's looking like Jurassic Park on Embryo Ceph

1:11:39

Day out there. It's not looking good. Mulder

1:11:43

follows him with a flashlight into the

1:11:45

rain. He finds Jorge, I'm

1:11:47

so sorry. Dead. He

1:11:51

is dead with his arms raised

1:11:53

against an unseen attacker.

1:11:57

In the words of Avanti, scared.

1:12:00

You're dead. Here's the

1:12:02

thing. When he's making

1:12:04

his little audio live journal for Scully,

1:12:07

for forensic posterity, he's like rigor mortis,

1:12:10

set in in less than half an

1:12:12

hour. He's covered in goose

1:12:14

flesh. My God, Scully, it's as if

1:12:16

he's been frightened to death. And I'd

1:12:18

like to direct all of

1:12:21

our listeners, Fox Mulder and Yvonne Thi

1:12:23

to a little film called The Ring.

1:12:25

If you want to see people who

1:12:27

look like they were scared to death,

1:12:30

please watch The Ring.

1:12:32

Wow, this podcast not sponsored

1:12:34

by The Ring. I'm

1:12:36

just saying Jorge doesn't look to me like he's

1:12:39

been scared to death. You're

1:12:41

like to the corpse of Jorge. Prove

1:12:44

it, Jorge. With

1:12:47

respect to Jorge. I just don't

1:12:49

feel... You

1:12:53

know what? It was 1994. We

1:12:57

were living in a pre-The Ring

1:12:59

world. Unfortunately

1:13:02

we were all living

1:13:04

in a pre-Walk to Remember world because I

1:13:06

got really excited to make the joke

1:13:08

that the George Hale telescope was only

1:13:10

beied by the telescope that that guy

1:13:13

built for Mandy Moore in Walk to

1:13:15

Remember. I just saw the scope. Then

1:13:18

I literally googled when did a Walk

1:13:20

to Remember came out and it was

1:13:22

much later. Okay,

1:13:25

so Team Jorge, first

1:13:27

of all, I would have been a bat out of fucking

1:13:29

hell. Out. I'm fucking

1:13:31

out. Yeah. I'm F.O. At

1:13:34

the Miami airport, meanwhile,

1:13:36

Dr. Elvin Elf is

1:13:39

using her... This is again, this is another point

1:13:41

in my... Scully uses

1:13:45

being a woman to her advantage at

1:13:47

every turn. She's using her fucking compact

1:13:49

and pretending to put on lipstick as

1:13:51

she's like looking over her shoulder to

1:13:54

see if anyone is tailing her. She

1:13:57

doesn't see anyone at first, but then we see

1:13:59

these two. agents who are so

1:14:01

obvious. Again, teach the FBI to

1:14:03

be sneaky people. They're not good

1:14:05

at it. No,

1:14:08

no, they definitely look

1:14:10

like two people who are tailing you for

1:14:12

sure. She

1:14:15

pulls a trick only beaten by her

1:14:17

fish food trick, honestly. She pulls

1:14:19

the call fox and leave a

1:14:21

message about the wrong flight on

1:14:23

his own in a different terminal.

1:14:28

Incredible. And then

1:14:30

she scoots up to the second level, never

1:14:32

to be clocked again. She

1:14:34

stands so close

1:14:37

to the couple that is simply

1:14:39

there to take a flight somewhere

1:14:41

on a trip. She is like

1:14:44

over the woman's shoulder and then she's

1:14:46

like behind the man's shoulder blade. And

1:14:48

I'm just like, are these people like

1:14:50

they must be aware that this woman

1:14:52

is standing inside of their bodies? So

1:14:56

the agents are on their way to St.

1:14:58

Croix while Agent Scully is booking a 630

1:15:00

flight to San Juan. Mulder

1:15:04

doesn't know what day it is anymore

1:15:06

because as I previously stated, he did

1:15:09

not bring enough water. He's losing it.

1:15:11

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's not

1:15:13

doing great. It's

1:15:17

like there's no evidence. If

1:15:19

there was evidence, would it even really be?

1:15:22

He's having a hard time. He's

1:15:25

having a really hard time. Let's hear.

1:15:27

So this is, you know, we had

1:15:29

a longstanding watch of

1:15:31

Scully's Little Diary in the

1:15:34

first season, but second season coming

1:15:36

out strong, Mulder is writing in

1:15:38

his little diary. So let's hear some of

1:15:40

the last things that he writes in his little

1:15:42

diary. Before

1:15:46

I could only trust myself. Now

1:15:51

I can only trust

1:15:54

you. You've taken me away from

1:15:56

me. My

1:16:01

life up to this point has been about the need to

1:16:03

see her again. To

1:16:06

see them. So

1:16:10

what would I do if I really can't? Well?

1:16:17

Well, I have

1:16:19

a question. Yes. Mulder

1:16:21

says that before he could only trust itself and

1:16:23

now he can only trust Scully. Does that mean

1:16:25

that he no longer trusts himself? He only trusts

1:16:27

Scully? That's how I interpreted it.

1:16:29

I interpreted it. And

1:16:32

based on how it's going here, that would

1:16:34

be reasonable. I think that

1:16:36

he is aware of his

1:16:38

own sort of undoing and

1:16:40

so she is the

1:16:42

only thing that he can hold on to

1:16:44

for guidance. I don't know

1:16:47

if you've ever heard of this parable

1:16:50

or whatever, but it's

1:16:52

almost like when he looked behind him

1:16:54

on the beach and he saw only

1:16:56

one set of footprints. It

1:16:59

was Scully that was carrying him

1:17:01

the whole time. Alright.

1:17:08

Alright. When

1:17:11

I looked back at the sand, there

1:17:13

was a tiny little, there's one set

1:17:15

of really small footprints from a little

1:17:17

green man. And

1:17:20

that's when the little green man carried them both. Yeah.

1:17:25

So, abduction scene

1:17:27

part two, you

1:17:29

know, take it, play it again, same shit. Everything's

1:17:32

rattling. If they're playing Stratego, the game

1:17:34

pieces would be rattling. There's

1:17:36

red lights in the window. This

1:17:40

is when I think it gets more than a

1:17:42

point five of scary is this scene. And

1:17:45

it's because the printouts are printing on their

1:17:48

own and then the voice is so garbled

1:17:50

from the audio machine. And not only is

1:17:52

playing the things we know are like on

1:17:54

the Voyager record, but also playing back

1:17:57

Mulder's tape that he just made.

1:18:00

speeds. That's fucking

1:18:02

scary. LaToya, what?

1:18:05

The deadbolt unbolts itself. No,

1:18:07

thank you. No, subscribe. Thank

1:18:10

you. Shooting your

1:18:12

gun repeatedly, but

1:18:15

nothing is leaving it. Nothing happens. I thought

1:18:17

that maybe Mulder would take some comfort at

1:18:19

this and I like they don't say anything

1:18:21

about it, but you know, when they do

1:18:24

the flashback, he pulls down the tin that

1:18:26

there's a gun in it and he doesn't

1:18:28

get to it. Like Samantha's gone. And so

1:18:31

I thought, well, if I were Mulder

1:18:33

and like learned that had I even

1:18:35

gotten that gun, nothing would have happened,

1:18:38

you know, maybe I would

1:18:40

feel a little less guilty like it was

1:18:42

all my fault that my sister got taken.

1:18:44

But I don't know. Also, if

1:18:47

you have small children in your home, maybe don't just

1:18:49

have your gun in a tin up on the

1:18:51

bookshelf. Just a sidebar. Uh,

1:18:54

yeah, don't do

1:18:56

that. So stretchy gray man,

1:18:58

AKA little green man, we see him

1:19:00

again. And Mulder

1:19:03

like throws all of the machinery in front

1:19:06

of the door and everything short circuits. And

1:19:08

then the next thing we know, Scully has

1:19:10

arrived. She's

1:19:13

like, the first thing that she says to

1:19:15

him is I was sure you were dead,

1:19:17

but isn't she a medical doctor? And didn't

1:19:19

she think to check his vitals? Or

1:19:22

just waving a flashlight in his face until he

1:19:24

came to. He's

1:19:28

like, look at all this

1:19:30

evidence. Look at these printouts, mountains of

1:19:32

printouts. Look at all this contact. Look

1:19:34

at this man who died while I

1:19:36

was here. Oh my God. The way

1:19:38

he reveals a dead body to her

1:19:40

and just no setup at all. He's

1:19:42

just like, and this guy. And she's

1:19:44

like, Oh my God. I

1:19:47

really thought when he like flipped that table over that

1:19:49

Jorge was not going to be there. But I guess

1:19:51

the whole point is like, here is

1:19:53

all this evidence and they can't take it

1:19:56

with them because the blue berets who famously

1:19:59

despite having a very non-threatening color

1:20:01

beret are allowed to

1:20:03

kill people willy-nilly arrive. Also,

1:20:06

I'm just realizing I don't really

1:20:08

remember their berets being blue. Were they

1:20:10

blue? I think it's more of

1:20:13

a, you know, ranking thing. Yeah.

1:20:16

Okay, well, you know what? I'm a literal. Have

1:20:18

you ever heard of Amelia Bedelia? Because that's,

1:20:20

I'm a literal girl. I would like for

1:20:22

the berets to be blue if you call

1:20:24

berets blue berets. I'm a

1:20:26

literal girl, Christian Russo, a literal

1:20:29

girl. Okay,

1:20:31

so they can't take the, Skelly's like,

1:20:33

we literally can't take Jorge. Like how

1:20:35

are we gonna? Yeah, Skelly's like, we

1:20:37

won't be able to get a body

1:20:39

out of the country. Like

1:20:43

we can do a lot on planes in 1994, but not that. They're

1:20:46

like, oh, should we weekend at Bernie's? Yeah.

1:20:50

I'm George E. Hale. This is

1:20:53

Diana Hale and this

1:20:55

is our friend Jorge, our traveling companion. Jorge

1:20:57

Hale. Yeah. They

1:21:00

wind up taking just the tape

1:21:02

with them. And this is when

1:21:04

we leave the X-Files and enter

1:21:07

what I put in my notes as too

1:21:09

fast to X-Files. Yes. X-Fast,

1:21:11

X-Furious. Oh,

1:21:13

that's so much better.

1:21:17

We are, it's possible the show would

1:21:20

have ended after season two, episode one,

1:21:22

because they are hanging on by a

1:21:24

thread. Mulder is driving this van, which

1:21:26

I assume he is just right through

1:21:28

the tree. Just, no, there's not even a hint of

1:21:30

a path. No, and

1:21:32

like he doesn't know how steep the

1:21:34

drops are. He's just taking his fucking

1:21:36

chances. Those cars flipping and flopping all

1:21:38

over the place. The berets shoot at

1:21:40

the car, fucking the glass breaks out

1:21:42

of the back of it. This is

1:21:44

some serious shit. Also, in my opinion,

1:21:46

some great shooting.

1:21:49

Not gun shooting, but gun shooting. The

1:21:54

only thing that made me

1:21:56

laugh in the X-Fast, X-Furious

1:21:58

scene was there's a scene There are.

1:22:01

Other and bouncing in his seat and I don't

1:22:03

know what it is about the at it but

1:22:05

it just does not like it doesn't fit the

1:22:07

rest and it looks like they were like okay

1:22:09

david just bounce up and down like your drive

1:22:11

and ruff us. This

1:22:16

a there is.

1:22:19

A. Moment in a sense. Heard. See you. At.

1:22:25

When I'm. A century has has

1:22:27

arrived in a distant land and he is driving

1:22:29

i think a jeep and his like it's close

1:22:32

up on him he says advancing. While.

1:22:34

Of way hither and the other cities

1:22:36

like about six. Mm. It's the without

1:22:39

and he's making himself balance, but he's

1:22:41

driving on like a paper. Let let

1:22:43

us buy like a Dunkin. Donuts Billboard.

1:22:46

But I'm always. I'm forever bouncing in

1:22:49

the driver's the. Yelling. About

1:22:52

how to say it's as

1:22:54

s ah. Oh.

1:22:57

I'm so she loves a. What

1:22:59

is the blueberries? as they can use terminal

1:23:01

force when they also have the power to

1:23:03

like shut down the roads on the way

1:23:05

to the airport. The hangs probably as like

1:23:08

a cloud of dust and the guys like

1:23:10

damn as. He

1:23:12

had darn. Oh.

1:23:15

Okay, So. We're

1:23:18

back and Skinner's off as I can

1:23:20

only think of Thera Benincasa at this

1:23:22

point. Like every time, Skinner. Does something

1:23:24

I am thinking about Sarah Benincasa. Especially

1:23:26

when he's a slinky to handing molders

1:23:29

ass to him. Sit Adidas I'm If

1:23:31

you are for whatever reason to starting

1:23:33

with season two, I encourage you to

1:23:35

go back. To our lives heaping

1:23:37

of tombs, And listen

1:23:40

to Cerebellum Casa and her

1:23:42

undying love and Horgan are

1:23:44

voyeurs. skinner. Skinner.

1:23:48

Says that mother is in trouble

1:23:50

and he is. Dangerously.

1:23:53

Close or something like that you

1:23:55

to being a for bag her

1:23:57

which stands for or the for

1:23:59

a thing. Censor transfer

1:24:02

suspension and probation.

1:24:07

This made me look of I had not

1:24:09

ever heard that term before and it seems

1:24:11

to be F B I specific. I don't

1:24:13

know if you found anything oh different, the

1:24:15

not or okay so. There's. A

1:24:17

bunch of I found a list of F

1:24:20

B I specific phrases. One of them was

1:24:22

like view car for your bureau car so

1:24:24

that okay, that's the Zola. must be true

1:24:26

because I recognize one thing because I'm a

1:24:28

great researchers minds are going to tell you

1:24:30

one of the phrases or one of the

1:24:32

one of the things on this list of

1:24:34

F B I. Nomenclature.

1:24:38

Moon. Roast.

1:24:40

Beef Here is what it says under

1:24:42

Roast Fees Okay and now I know

1:24:44

at least one of you as the

1:24:47

sister to a former F B I

1:24:49

agent. So I'm looking at you did

1:24:51

go get us the Geico, find out

1:24:53

the District's Roast beef. This references a

1:24:55

new as the I Special Agent who

1:24:57

one thought that agents are given a

1:24:59

special discounts and a local New York

1:25:01

deli. When his sandwich arrives. He complained

1:25:04

by saying I'm F B I more

1:25:06

roast beef. Apparently this

1:25:08

story is known across the entire

1:25:10

country and agents who are dissatisfied

1:25:12

with something will say more Roast

1:25:15

Beef Also, agents telling their boss

1:25:17

how they showed their credentials to

1:25:19

someone will say i Roast beef

1:25:22

dem. Ah,

1:25:26

Oh oh Shit. Either

1:25:28

We've let me know if that's

1:25:31

true, but her roast beef doesn't

1:25:33

really have a zing. Do it.

1:25:35

But I roast beef them. First

1:25:37

of all, sounds. Like. None

1:25:39

of my best. But

1:25:43

all there is great. I'm an array. Of.

1:25:45

The. Beginning. Of March when

1:25:47

I border cruise ships that will. Leave

1:25:50

us waters and I have to flash

1:25:52

my passport all over the place. And

1:25:54

I live. I live a roast beef

1:25:56

you're ill effects. Anyway

1:26:02

my going to talk about millions of

1:26:04

it's that it's for those don't know

1:26:06

Jenny is taping are premier with cove

1:26:09

add ah so if we celebrate huge

1:26:11

any I thank you for your efforts

1:26:13

them and some my ear my lungs

1:26:15

are. Starting. To give up his

1:26:17

energize. You don't think about how much lung

1:26:19

power it takes is hartford two hours or

1:26:21

whatever, but it's a lot. So. Let.

1:26:24

Me let me be the set of footprints in the

1:26:26

sand. For a for a moment. I'm

1:26:28

mother says that he knows he had enough evidence

1:26:31

but that they like less him on this case

1:26:33

like he's. Aware of what they're doing,

1:26:35

their just basically giving him some the

1:26:37

to do is let in time out

1:26:40

exactly as he says. He

1:26:42

left. be there you wire tap my

1:26:44

phone to which they give a full

1:26:46

be to to skinner looking dead at

1:26:48

smoking them Life as you see. It

1:26:50

that, ah, And. Sick man of

1:26:52

like I do what I. Was. Smoking

1:26:57

Man Have we heard him speak?

1:26:59

I can't even remember but leaks he

1:27:01

doesn't. Speak. Very minds he. He

1:27:03

was initially not supposed to have a

1:27:05

speaking role at all. And. This is

1:27:08

you'd expect like sort of a rich

1:27:10

mahogany, a baritone succumb like booming out

1:27:12

of this man. And that is not

1:27:14

the vibe and I think that's. Interesting.

1:27:18

Your time is over and you

1:27:20

leave with. Nothing of then skinner

1:27:23

fair I go somewhere else

1:27:25

that i guess is as

1:27:27

you fries of players there.

1:27:29

I guess Get it at Love. Sinners

1:27:33

as get out and putting the smoking

1:27:35

man. The first time I've ever seen

1:27:37

anything happened where the smoking man would

1:27:39

have caused to be embarrassed. Ah. Looks

1:27:41

at Moser assuming that Skinner's hacking

1:27:43

to moulder. and then there's a be

1:27:45

and he says skinner says I

1:27:47

said get the hell out Which

1:27:49

is when the daddy. Is.

1:27:52

oh i'm chris the his business relate a

1:27:54

whole new vision of skinner because i think

1:27:56

that my business center was like he was

1:27:58

gonna be a hard-ass and like something was

1:28:01

gonna happen that like turned him to the

1:28:03

side of good and what I realized in

1:28:05

this episode is that I think the vibe

1:28:07

of Skinner is gonna be that he's a

1:28:09

rule follower no matter what. And

1:28:12

that like his like the

1:28:15

rules that the upper echelon

1:28:17

of alien folks like

1:28:19

the smoking man are breaking are not

1:28:22

okay with him either. So like I like

1:28:24

that. I hope that that is like the

1:28:26

vibe for Skinner.

1:28:31

And he tells Mulder that he should

1:28:33

report back to his assignment. He is

1:28:36

actually not a four-bagger, which

1:28:38

is it according to my very

1:28:40

poorly researched investigation,

1:28:43

you only get to do you only get that

1:28:46

once. Like if you have

1:28:48

if you hit all four of those things that's

1:28:50

like you only get that one time and then you're

1:28:52

out of the FBI. So I

1:28:56

don't know again please can 1-800 FBI please

1:28:58

let us know. He

1:29:04

puts him back on surveillance but it feels

1:29:06

like there's an understanding between Mulder and Skinner

1:29:08

in a way here. Would you agree? I

1:29:12

would absolutely agree. They have something special.

1:29:14

They do. All of

1:29:17

a sudden. Now here's where my cigarette

1:29:19

smoking is going to come back into

1:29:21

conversation because the

1:29:24

little smug bitch that is the

1:29:26

smoking man when he realizes

1:29:28

that Skinner is telling him to get

1:29:30

out he takes his sweet ass time

1:29:33

walks over to his fucking cigarettes lights

1:29:35

one up in the room and

1:29:38

then walks out of

1:29:40

the room. The last shot. Yeah

1:29:42

and the last shot Jenny of this scene

1:29:45

after I think Mulder has already left Skinner is

1:29:47

in his office still they go to the ashtray

1:29:50

and the cigarette is still fucking smoking in the

1:29:52

room and it feels it just felt like to

1:29:54

me like the

1:29:57

presence of the smoking man was something

1:29:59

that was directly upsetting

1:30:02

to Skinner. And they were showing

1:30:04

us that vibe, obviously, like the

1:30:06

larger scene and content, but also

1:30:08

just like this presence of smoke

1:30:10

that's sort of like infiltrating

1:30:12

Skinner's whole fucking office. And I don't know,

1:30:15

because I've never seen one come later, but

1:30:17

it just seemed like the vibe. Oh

1:30:21

my god. All

1:30:23

right, back in the well

1:30:25

of... what is this? Precious?

1:30:29

We're precious, the doll? Yeah, Buffalo Bill's place.

1:30:31

Buffalo Bill's place? Yeah, we're back there. But

1:30:34

this time, Mulder's not alone. Skelly's there,

1:30:36

which makes this horrible dank hole seem

1:30:39

a little less horrible and a little

1:30:41

less dank. Terrible news. The tape that

1:30:43

they took from Erisibo

1:30:45

is completely blank. Actually, if

1:30:47

they played it to the end, Jenny, they would have heard one

1:30:49

thing and it would have been... Skelly's

1:31:02

like, oh, could've been the electrical storm. And

1:31:05

then unnecessarily, she says, you

1:31:07

still have nothing. But

1:31:13

maybe... And Mulder says... Yeah, I was gonna

1:31:15

say... Maybe she knew what she was setting

1:31:17

him up to say. I

1:31:19

may not have the X-Files, Skelly, but I still have

1:31:22

my work. I

1:31:30

still have you. I

1:31:37

still have myself. Jenny,

1:31:42

after he says this, first of all,

1:31:45

she goes full Angela Chase again, just

1:31:48

like swoony McSwoon eyes. And

1:31:50

then she squeezes his hand.

1:31:53

We have gotten incredibly intimate

1:31:55

in just one season's worth

1:31:58

of material. Meanwhile,

1:32:02

while this meaningful hand squeeze is going

1:32:04

on, the men that Mulder

1:32:06

is surveilling are discussing the difference between

1:32:08

a lap dance and

1:32:11

a table dance. Oh,

1:32:14

and Latoya Ferguson is at home saying, ah,

1:32:16

what a perfect opportunity to use this for

1:32:18

my ranking system. Well,

1:32:23

Jenny, no one can say

1:32:26

we haven't started the second season, eh? Happy

1:32:28

Valentine's Day, by the way. Happy

1:32:31

Valentine's Day to all

1:32:34

of my ex-wives, including Kristin. And

1:32:40

all of our beautiful listeners. And

1:32:43

also our current wives, both of who do not listen. Well,

1:32:46

you know, we privately wish them

1:32:48

Happy Valentine's Day on our

1:32:50

own time. But

1:32:55

hey, speaking of Valentine's Day. Welcome

1:33:00

back. New

1:33:07

season, new sexual

1:33:09

attention awards. That's just the same old

1:33:12

thing. Here they go. It's

1:33:16

slot number one. Oh my God, it's Mulder

1:33:18

and Scully because, oh my God, he only

1:33:20

trusts her. He doesn't even trust himself. He

1:33:22

just trusts her as she loves to look

1:33:24

at him and squeeze his hand and they

1:33:26

love each other so much. And it's so

1:33:28

great Mulder and Scully is a mothership forever.

1:33:32

It's slot number two. It's

1:33:35

Senator Arlo Givens Matheson and

1:33:37

Bach, his number one fave.

1:33:42

It's not number three, it's Bach

1:33:44

and not returning Senator

1:33:46

Matheson's affections, but rather

1:33:49

redirecting his affections towards

1:33:51

the aliens. Bach and

1:33:54

aliens forever reaching

1:33:56

towards one another across the ever

1:33:58

expanding. Expanse

1:34:01

of space? You're doing great. It's

1:34:04

fine. I mean,

1:34:07

if the ever expanding expanse doesn't belong

1:34:09

in the sexual attention awards, I don't know

1:34:12

where it does, Jenny. Yeah, that expanse actually

1:34:14

sounds like none of my birthday. And

1:34:17

it's law number four. Good

1:34:21

golly. I

1:34:24

can't even joke around about this because it's so

1:34:26

hot. It's all of us and Timberland Mulder. I

1:34:29

love when that man's on a little adventure.

1:34:31

God damn it. Like Indiana Jones called, you

1:34:34

know? Yeah, yeah,

1:34:36

yeah. Cool. A

1:34:38

write-in will be accepted for Kristen and the Golden

1:34:40

Record. Very true.

1:34:42

Kristen, because my lungs are compromised, could you

1:34:45

tell them how to vote, please? If

1:34:48

you'd like to vote in our beautiful democracy, head

1:34:50

on over to bufferingcast slash STA. We

1:34:52

run the poll through our Patreon, but

1:34:54

that does not mean you need to

1:34:56

support us financially. You can, and we'd

1:34:58

love it. But you can get a

1:35:00

Patreon account for free. The

1:35:03

voting usually stays open for about five days. I

1:35:06

pick who you approved

1:35:08

their sexual attention the hardest. And

1:35:10

go on over there. Thank you.

1:35:16

Sexual attention

1:35:19

awards! Before

1:35:23

we gaze into anything particularly

1:35:25

amethystian, I have

1:35:28

a new micro segment. It's

1:35:31

just a superlative, Kristen. It's

1:35:33

a superlative for season two. Who's the

1:35:35

smuggest bitch of this episode? Fucking smoking

1:35:37

man. More like smug bitchin' man, you

1:35:39

know what I mean? Well, I don't know about it. I'll

1:35:42

workshop it. Listen, don't

1:35:45

worry about workshopping that. Instead, turn

1:35:47

your eyes to

1:35:50

gaze deeply at a

1:35:52

glowing purple orb.

1:35:56

And tell me, what secrets are

1:35:58

revealed within? Well,

1:36:22

thank you for coming to this season

1:36:24

two's first appearance of the

1:36:27

crystal ball. Jenny,

1:36:29

first of all, I already talked, I think,

1:36:31

on the season wrap up episode about the

1:36:33

host, but I am going to try to

1:36:36

remember to touch on what I think

1:36:38

might happen in the episode that comes

1:36:40

next in the crystal ball segment. So,

1:36:43

you know, the host, by

1:36:46

definition, you know, either there's a

1:36:48

dinner party, I'm hoping it's a

1:36:50

double, I'm hoping there's a dinner

1:36:52

party, but also at that dinner

1:36:55

party that like Scully is hosting

1:36:57

because, you know, the patriarchy, that

1:37:00

someone in that crowd,

1:37:02

in the dinner party crowd, or perhaps

1:37:04

Mulder somewhere else and it's happening somewhere

1:37:06

else, but there is a body that

1:37:09

is host to some

1:37:11

kind of alien life form,

1:37:13

whether it's an ice bug or an LED

1:37:16

bug or a little green man or some

1:37:18

fucking guy in the moon that comes down

1:37:20

and makes your face his face for a

1:37:22

second. I don't know, but

1:37:25

it's, there is a host,

1:37:27

I want it to be wordplay on host.

1:37:29

That's my crystal ball's prediction. That's my prediction

1:37:31

that we're going to get something that is

1:37:33

hosted, very, very New York Times crossword puzzles,

1:37:36

something that is hosted, but also something that

1:37:38

hosts alien life form on the same plot line.

1:37:43

A question, so in case you don't

1:37:45

know, you can write to the crystal

1:37:47

ball and ask both myself and my

1:37:49

crystal ball questions. Tess, our listener

1:37:51

Tess wrote in and said, dear crystal ball,

1:37:54

it's my first time watching the show, so

1:37:56

I would love your wisdom. We've

1:37:58

seen a really bizarre and. using portrayal

1:38:00

of trans people, which feels like

1:38:02

a generous description, and there's been

1:38:05

some major same-sex sexual tension, but

1:38:07

none of that's good representation. So,

1:38:09

specifically in the original series of

1:38:11

the X-Files, in a world pre-Tara

1:38:13

and Willow, are we going to

1:38:16

see any explicit LGBTQIA-plus representation? If

1:38:18

so, will it be positive or

1:38:20

problematic? What's the biggest

1:38:22

and advanced for gazing into your

1:38:24

crystal ball? I

1:38:28

do think that we will get a queer

1:38:30

character that is just casually queer, like,

1:38:32

they just have a partner, but we

1:38:34

never see that partner or whatever, but

1:38:37

they're like the gay character at some

1:38:39

point, probably like season four, season five,

1:38:41

like way down the line, and I

1:38:43

don't think it will be done well.

1:38:47

I think it will be problematic, not

1:38:49

positive. Those are my

1:38:51

guesses and my crystal ball guesses.

1:38:54

So, a little ways down. We're in 94, so I'd

1:38:57

say like when we get to like 96, maybe

1:39:00

97, we'll get something that's supposed to

1:39:02

be like cutting edge, a gay character,

1:39:04

but it won't be done well, and

1:39:06

there won't be a relationship, like an

1:39:08

on-screen relationship at all. Okay.

1:39:11

Okay. Jenny, do you have any

1:39:13

questions for the crystal ball? I

1:39:16

feel like you very responsibly rounded

1:39:18

up some things to say. I try.

1:39:21

I try my hardest. Yeah, yeah, you've done a

1:39:23

great job. Thank you. And you

1:39:25

know, the Skinner stuff, I think, belongs as a bit

1:39:27

of a crystal ball, even though it was not

1:39:29

in its proper segment, because I do, my

1:39:32

crystal ball and I, in a serious vein, do see

1:39:34

Skinner winding up being, you

1:39:37

know, a foil in some ways, but more

1:39:39

of an ally than not in the fact

1:39:42

that he doesn't like the way that, it

1:39:45

doesn't seem like he likes the way that Fox is

1:39:47

being treated by powers bigger than

1:39:49

him. So, nice,

1:39:52

nice, nice, nice, nice. Well,

1:39:55

Kristen, we're back. We just

1:39:57

completed our first episode of season two.

1:39:59

Hell yeah. Oh,

1:40:02

I know I'll save your I'll save your

1:40:04

lungs Jenny. She is Jenny Owen Young's and

1:40:07

when she's not watching the X-Files She's often

1:40:09

writing music singing music making music going on

1:40:11

tour as a matter of fact I'm pretty

1:40:13

sure that you could if you're gonna be

1:40:15

on a boat in March you can see

1:40:17

Jenny She's playing on a cruise

1:40:20

called Jenny plays a cruise. What's it called?

1:40:25

What is it called? K. Elmo. K.

1:40:27

Elmo and in May Jenny

1:40:29

has just announced some shows in the Northeast.

1:40:31

She is playing shows in Portsmouth

1:40:35

Boston and Northampton

1:40:38

and somewhere else Portland,

1:40:40

Maine Portland, Maine. There you go. And

1:40:42

you can learn all about it on

1:40:44

Jenny Owen Young's.com Did

1:40:47

I miss anything? You did so great

1:40:50

My name is Kristen Russo and when

1:40:53

I'm not watching the X-Files I am

1:40:55

often working with LGBTQ communities. I

1:40:57

do a lot of conversations with workplaces as

1:40:59

a matter of fact I just recently went

1:41:01

down and talked to the folks over at

1:41:03

Central Park, which was very fun for me

1:41:06

a New Yorker You can learn

1:41:08

more about me on my website Kristen no

1:41:10

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1:41:12

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1:41:14

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1:41:40

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1:41:42

we do special deep dives We are

1:41:44

releasing today as a matter of fact

1:41:47

for Valentine's Day a special episode where

1:41:49

Jenny and I talk about face La

1:41:51

Haine and only face La Haine To

1:41:55

see it patreon.com/buffering cast

1:41:57

or all of this just on our

1:42:00

website. And I think that's

1:42:03

all we have to say, except for Jenny,

1:42:05

who helped us make this episode of podcast.

1:42:08

This episode was produced by

1:42:10

Kristen, me, and Latoya

1:42:12

Ferguson. It was support from

1:42:14

our consultant Mackenzie McDade. It was edited

1:42:16

by John Mark Nelson. Until next time,

1:42:19

I would say the

1:42:21

status of this exile is supporting

1:42:24

me at great risk to its reputation.

1:42:28

Wow, such a kinky way to end

1:42:30

the episode. It

1:43:09

is a truth universally acknowledged that if

1:43:11

a beloved romantic work stays in the

1:43:13

public domain long enough, it

1:43:15

shall surely be turned really queer

1:43:17

by some gay, Jane Austen-loving nerds

1:43:20

and creatively entitled queer pride and

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prejudice. Adopted directly from

1:43:24

Austen's pride and prejudice, but with a

1:43:26

particular emphasis on the pride part of

1:43:29

things, queer pride and prejudice

1:43:31

features a cast and creative team made

1:43:33

up of some of Indian audiodrama's biggest

1:43:35

LGBTQIA plus horror houses. And you can

1:43:38

see the transits to be

1:43:41

the most dangerous stories of after

1:43:43

all the intense dislike, of course.

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This limited series is a little over

1:43:48

halfway complete, with episodes releasing on a

1:43:50

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