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2:12

and welcome to the

2:15

X-Files. That's the

2:18

EX-Files. A buffering rewatch

2:20

adventure where we are watching and discussing

2:23

every episode of the X-Files one by

2:25

one, spoiler free. Sorry I'm

2:27

late to the taping, the new issue

2:29

of celebrity skin just arrived. I'm

2:32

Jenny Owen Young's ex-wife of Kristen Russo

2:34

and I grew up watching the X-Files.

2:36

And I'm Kristen Russo, ex-wife of Jenny

2:38

Owen Young's and I'm here to tell

2:40

you two things. One, I've only ever

2:43

seen 27 episodes of the

2:45

X-Files. Two, today we're talking

2:47

about season two, episode three, Blood.

2:50

And actually I have a third thing to

2:52

tell you which is that Jenny is in

2:54

a mood today. I'm here to have fun,

2:56

I am going to ride this wave. You

3:02

know what I'm saying? Let's go. Blood.

3:06

Blood is the name of the episode.

3:09

The story is by Darren Morgan,

3:11

the flukey himself. I

3:14

know I can't believe he showed up already. Unbelievable.

3:17

That was such a quick turnaround. The

3:19

teleplay was written by Glenn Morgan and

3:21

James Wong. Glenn Morgan and Darren Morgan

3:24

are of course brothers. This episode was

3:26

directed by David Nutter and it originally

3:28

aired on September 30th, Do

3:32

you think that Darren had the idea for

3:35

this episode while he was inside of

3:37

the flu suit? Man, I hope

3:39

so. I really hope so. This

3:41

is the one where, according to

3:43

IMDB, Mulder and Scully investigate a

3:46

series of violent killings committed

3:48

by seemingly normal residents of

3:51

a small town. Producer

3:54

Latoya gives this episode a scary ranking of

3:56

2.75 out of 5. experimental

4:00

pesticides responsible for violent behavior.

4:03

All right. She

4:06

goes on, this episode knows how to work

4:08

the spookiness and tension of the killings or

4:10

the psychosis of those afflicted very well. Those

4:12

scenes with Funch, the elevator guy, and Mrs.

4:14

McRoberts, that's the score. But once Mueller and

4:17

the local police and even the lone gunman

4:19

get involved, all of that tension built up

4:21

in those other scenes is gone and has

4:23

to build up all over again. That's so

4:26

interesting. It's a great observation. That's

4:28

her vibe and I agree with it, but we kind

4:30

of go on a little bit of a roller coaster

4:33

ride of tension in this episode. Mm-hmm,

4:35

mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Up and down, up

4:37

and down. So all of that

4:39

got the ranking for LaToya up to 2.5

4:42

and she goes on to say the additional 0.25 I

4:45

added to this rating is not actually

4:47

because of the scariness, but instead grossness

4:50

that made me look away from the screen,

4:52

the constant closeup on that little girl and

4:55

her nose blood. Yeah,

4:57

you know. Sussing out LaToya's weaknesses

4:59

bit by bit. Honestly, I was gonna

5:01

say. No blood, I'm writing it down.

5:04

Her and Ed have

5:06

something in common. They

5:08

absolutely cannot stand

5:11

the sight of blood, which I wrote in

5:13

my notes when Ed says the word blood.

5:15

I wrote it as blurred. Blurred.

5:20

Jenny, big thoughts on this episode?

5:23

Oh man, okay, my big thoughts. We already

5:25

said the stories by Fluke. My next big

5:27

thought, Mulder's hair continuing to look like absolute

5:30

shit. And my next

5:32

thought. Wait, pause, pause, because Mulder, unless

5:34

you're gonna go deeper into Mulder's hair,

5:37

I have something to say on that

5:39

note, which is for those of you

5:41

who don't know, I've started doing something

5:43

called Office Hours in the Discord for

5:45

patrons. And so we talk about the

5:48

most recently aired episode, and then we

5:50

also talk about the episode we're about

5:52

to record. So the first Office Hours

5:54

we had, we talked about

5:56

blood because it was next up and we talked

5:58

a lot about Mulder's hair, Jenny. And

6:00

someone in the discord said that he looked,

6:03

I think it was Ken actually, who said,

6:05

Mulder looks like a baby duckling, like his

6:07

hair is just so soft and floofy. And

6:10

so we started calling him Mulduckling. So

6:12

I just want to introduce that here to the

6:15

pod at large. We

6:17

are in the era of the Mulduckling.

6:21

So has it been decreed? Yes.

6:29

I hope it's not a spoiler to say as

6:31

I'm continuing my season two watch, I'm

6:34

way ahead of the episode we're

6:36

recording right now. And everyone in the

6:38

episode I most recently watched, everyone is

6:40

looking hotter than they've looked in a while.

6:43

Great. Great. It's

6:45

a real good one. I can't wait to

6:48

get to it. Can you tell us actually

6:50

that Latoya has been asking,

6:52

we've been, you know, discussing Jillian

6:54

Anderson's pregnancy and how it's been

6:57

impacting her presence in the scenes,

6:59

you know, in the episodes overall

7:01

that like, because they can't really

7:03

have her body in the

7:05

shots without revealing the fact that she is

7:08

incredibly pregnant, we get in this episode, I

7:10

noticed it way more on my second watch,

7:12

so many like, they're talking to each other,

7:14

but like via their little diary entries, you

7:16

know, so that we can have them seated

7:18

and what have you. And so Latoya was

7:20

wondering, and I am too, I don't think it's

7:22

a spoiler, but do you have a mark

7:24

for us that we're aiming for when like Jillian

7:26

is kind of back in the fold in

7:29

full form? What I'll

7:31

say is that I can't

7:33

say, okay, it wouldn't be right to

7:36

say, okay, I need to keep, I

7:38

need to protect you at all costs.

7:40

So I have nothing to say on

7:42

this matter. That did just

7:44

make me think of something Latoya

7:46

had left in her notes about this episode

7:48

as well about how like, the story was

7:50

by Darren, but Glenn and James wrote it

7:52

because quote, it had to be done really

7:54

fast. I'm wondering if they were like

7:57

batch recording Jillian's parts

7:59

of episodes. to make space

8:01

for a maternity leave. Right, right.

8:03

That makes sense. Yeah. Well,

8:05

I hope we get her back soon. I mean, obviously I'm always

8:07

happy to see her, but I definitely

8:09

want, I'm really, my significant eye

8:12

contact jingle is significantly underused

8:14

at the start of season two, and

8:16

it's mostly because they're not in the

8:18

same room very often. I

8:20

hate it. You

8:23

had another big thought that I interrupted. My

8:25

other big thought was, hey, it's William Sanderson

8:28

from Deadwood. Have you ever seen Deadwood, Kristin? I can't

8:30

remember. I have not seen Deadwood, but I did. As

8:32

you watch it with Avanti, there's a sheriff. And

8:36

it's the guy from Justified. Oh, wow.

8:38

Oh my God. A family affair. No,

8:41

I saw that this actor was in Deadwood

8:43

and also True Blood. He plays like the

8:45

sheriff or something in True Blood, which is

8:48

funny, cause you know, blood, true blood. Yep,

8:51

yep, yep. This was his practice for that. Yeah,

8:54

yeah, yeah. They were like, hey, call that guy

8:56

from that blood episode. He seems to have experience with

8:58

blood. Yeah,

9:01

I liked this episode. This was fun. I

9:03

had a good time. I also,

9:05

before, I don't know if this is a spot for this, Jenny,

9:07

but we talked about the

9:10

term roast beefed in the first

9:12

episode of the podcast for season

9:14

two. And you know we have

9:16

an ask an FBI agent, sort

9:18

of a little pipeline to an

9:20

FBI agent. On speed dial. Yeah,

9:22

yeah. So I did get an

9:24

answer for this. Is

9:26

this real or not? Our source at

9:28

the FBI says, yes. The

9:32

roast beef story is told

9:35

to us at Quantico. As

9:37

legend has it, a new agent

9:39

went into an Arby's because he

9:42

was unhappy with the sandwich he

9:44

got at the drive-thru. He pulled

9:46

out his ID and demanded more

9:48

roast beef. And then this,

9:51

can we call, is this our deep throat? Is

9:54

that? Yeah.

9:57

Okay. Yeah. Moving forward,

9:59

I'm calling. telling this source deep, our

10:01

deep throat, our deep throat goes on

10:03

to say as the story is told, the

10:05

consequences were severe. I'm not sure

10:08

how many of the details in the

10:10

cautionary tale were accurate, but it was

10:12

just one of many examples of what

10:14

not to do with your gun and

10:16

your badge. You are never to use

10:18

your authority or access or influence for

10:20

your own personal benefit. I think it's

10:22

actually rude to me personally for anybody

10:24

to be telling a story about somebody

10:27

getting more roast beef during this, the

10:29

season of Lent. I'm so hungry. Wow.

10:32

Wow. Jenny, I mean, I'm sorry to bring up

10:34

roast beef, but I'm probably going to bring it

10:36

up a lot because I really want, I

10:39

really want you to start using this term.

10:41

Like I really want you to bring it

10:44

into the fold and report back on how

10:46

it went for you when you roast beef

10:48

someone. Well, usually when I

10:50

buy like beer, the cashier will

10:52

ask me to roast beef them because I am

10:54

in the bloom of youth and

10:57

they can't possibly believe that

11:01

I'm old enough. Jennifer, I believe

11:03

you're stretching the meaning of roast

11:05

beef. Roast beefing is using your

11:08

credentials to say you deserve

11:10

something you would not deserve.

11:12

But we all think you

11:14

look incredible for your age.

11:17

Thank you. You look about

11:19

the same age as me. So I

11:21

think we both... Oh, I look even

11:23

younger than my very young age. Okay.

11:29

I'm basically the first fetus

11:31

to podcast. Wow. Great.

11:34

Cool. Good talk. Also

11:37

Jenny, something that was brought up

11:39

in office hours that I thought was interesting and that I'm not

11:41

sure that we have talked about. Erica

11:43

over there said, hey, just noting that

11:45

we're three episodes into the second season

11:48

and this is a show called the

11:50

X-Files that has not yet covered an

11:52

X-File. I was like, wow, good

11:54

solid point, Erica. Zero for

11:56

three. Well, because the X-Files

11:59

are showing. down Erica.

12:01

Sure. What do you

12:03

think these will become X-Files? This one

12:05

won't be. Blood won't be. No.

12:07

But like the host has to go,

12:10

look in H now and I'm sure.

12:12

I think if they ever reopen the

12:14

X-Files, I think Mulder has like a

12:16

little home file

12:18

going where he's keeping his

12:21

own private notes and

12:23

research and those will get transferred

12:25

to the filing cabinet if the

12:27

X-Files ever get reopened. They're just

12:29

in a folder called X-X-X-Files so

12:31

that people think it's porn and they

12:33

don't open it but really it's Mulder's

12:35

private collection. It must just be more

12:37

issues of celebrity skin. Alright

12:41

Jenny, let's go to the post

12:43

office in Franklin, Pennsylvania. Can I

12:45

just say this looks

12:51

so satisfying. Oh this fucking number

12:53

keypad work. Oh

12:55

delicious. Absolutely. I would love to do

12:57

it. It is satisfying to watch

13:00

and it seems satisfying to do. Just one zip

13:02

code at a time. Click, click, click, click,

13:06

click. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Also, have you,

13:09

like did you spend

13:11

any of your life around people

13:13

who wore pocket protectors? You

13:15

know, I really haven't. Me either.

13:17

But I feel like you were probably a

13:19

child who wished for a pocket protector. Is

13:22

that true? No. No. That is not true.

13:24

You didn't want one. You were fine with your pocket. Miss

13:26

the mark. Wow. Okay. I could just

13:28

see little Jenny sort of being like, wow, I

13:30

wish I could keep my pens in my pocket.

13:32

I wish that there was. I don't think I

13:34

was wearing a lot of pocket shirts that

13:37

I would put pens

13:39

in. That's true. The Jurassic Park

13:41

shirts didn't have pockets usually. Exactly.

13:43

Exactly. T-shirts. Well, this man,

13:45

Ed Funch,

13:48

that's right. He has an incredible

13:51

pocket protector and he's also like really

13:53

fucking good at his job. I write

13:55

in my notes, incredible dexterity on the

13:57

zip code input assignment. Ed's

14:00

boss is also like... Maybe this

14:03

is arguable, but he seems like a really good guy. He seems

14:05

like a really nice boss, you know? He has to fire Ed.

14:07

He feels really bad about it. Yeah, but he feels bad. He's

14:09

done like a collection so that they give him a hundred bucks

14:11

on his way out. And he $206.98 in today's

14:13

money. Incredible.

14:17

Are we gonna play the Halamath Jingle for that or

14:19

what? Yeah, let's do it. Halamath

14:26

Firing a man when he already has a paper cut though

14:28

is a strike against This

14:30

otherwise nice seeming boss. It was the most upsetting

14:32

thing to me in this episode. Unlike

14:35

Latoya who is upset by the

14:37

bloody nose. I am upset when

14:39

Ed, just at his job having

14:41

touched that dirty ass keypad and

14:43

those dirty ass envelopes all day,

14:46

sucks his blood off of his finger while

14:48

his boss is also right there. It just

14:51

feels like a lot of choices were made

14:53

to get there and I don't like it.

14:56

But yeah, Kristen, I'm

14:58

gonna send you a postcard and I just

15:00

want to double check. Is your zip code

15:03

K-I-L-L or K-I-L-L space

15:05

apostrophe E-M or is it

15:08

K-I-L-L space apostrophe E-M space

15:11

A-L-L. It's actually

15:13

K-I-L-L space apostrophe E-M

15:15

is me. So that's that's

15:17

okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank

15:20

you. The zip code machine

15:22

just like all the machines we'll see

15:24

in this episode have messages

15:26

for Ed or someone else who

15:28

is confronting a phobia of

15:30

theirs. But Jenny, my favorite

15:32

part about this, because I actually let's

15:35

just pause for a minute. Okay. Let's

15:37

take a let's take a step back.

15:39

There's a pesticide or something like that

15:41

being used that is allegedly combining

15:44

with the fear, the adrenaline, I

15:46

guess, that you have or whatever

15:48

the chemical is that is produced

15:50

in your body when you have

15:52

fear to create an LSD like

15:54

effect. But that specifically comes out

15:56

of machines. I just I I

15:58

just like I try It's also

16:00

hard to follow the order of

16:02

affairs here, but because I

16:04

want, all I'm trying to do is laugh at

16:06

the fact that everyone is hallucinating the shortened version

16:09

of the word them. That's really all I want

16:11

to do right now, but to get there, I

16:14

have to try to parse what's happening. And

16:16

then I get, how is it happening? Yeah,

16:18

I get confused because I don't, I left

16:20

this episode being like, okay, so were those

16:22

all hallucinate? Cause Mulder brings up subliminal messages.

16:24

And so that's where I get confused. Cause

16:26

I'm like, wait, so what, were

16:28

we just hallucinating? Why did we have to

16:31

bring subliminal messaging into the conversation? And we

16:33

can get into more of that later,

16:35

but all that

16:37

said, Jenny, the postcard K-I-L-L space

16:40

apostrophe E-M for me. Thank you. How

16:43

did you feel about the heartbeat

16:45

score in this episode? The like

16:48

undercurrent, yeah, really cool. I

16:51

thought especially because it's dealing with what

16:54

everyone's afraid of. Ed is afraid of blood

16:56

and we'll get to the other fears as

16:58

we go on, but sort of this like

17:00

internal anxiety and like hearing your own heartbeat

17:02

accelerate as you're afraid. Very

17:05

cool, very cool. Credits,

17:08

coming out of the credits, we're in an elevator. I

17:11

feel claustrophobic just watching this scene. Seriously,

17:14

I don't understand how this man wound up in

17:16

this position. Like he must've gotten on it by

17:18

himself. And then like it stopped at floor four

17:20

and just the entire office got on with him

17:22

because this is horrible. It's jam packed

17:24

in there. The elevator is like,

17:26

tell me how I'm supposed to bathe with

17:29

no air, air. Can't

17:32

breathe, kill them all. Yeah,

17:37

so this man is being told by the

17:39

elevator to kill all of the passengers in

17:41

the elevator because he's afraid. I

17:44

don't, the other thing that I don't understand, and I

17:46

guess I'm just wasting all of our time here on

17:48

the podcast, but if the man wants to,

17:51

the machine wants the man to kill the

17:53

people on the elevator because that'll make more

17:55

space in the elevator if they're all dead

17:57

or just murder is the solution. And

18:00

then like- Murders the solution. Murders just the solution

18:02

no matter what. And like even though Ed is

18:04

like at his house, he needs to go to

18:06

the blood drive to kill everyone? Question

18:09

mark? I just have a

18:11

lot of questions. Anyway-

18:13

He wants to stop the extraction of

18:15

blood because he hates blood outside of

18:17

a body. But he's gonna be shooting

18:20

to Mulder's later point. Like he is

18:22

not doing it in his- Listen, it's

18:24

not his concern. Okay. Okay.

18:27

In no time at all, what was once an

18:29

elevator lobby is now a crime scene. There

18:32

are bodies scattered about. A

18:35

local sheriff has requested the

18:37

FBI and Mulder's here

18:39

to help. So Kristen,

18:42

get a load of this. The guy in

18:44

the elevator went ballistic and

18:47

killed four people with his bare

18:49

hands. And listen, this

18:52

is the disturbing part. The

18:54

man who did the murder was 42 years old. So

18:58

42 in 1994 years, I've just based by taking a look at

19:00

this guy is around 58 in 2024 years. Okay.

19:09

So we're saying this elderly- Me and

19:12

the elevator murder guy are the

19:14

same age. The

19:18

elderly murderer was able to somehow despite

19:20

his breaking bones and his withered

19:22

withered self. So

19:24

all these people- Yeah, if his body feels like

19:27

my body, I don't understand how he's killing

19:29

people with his bare hands. It's also so bloody.

19:31

More power to him. Like it's so bloody

19:33

for bare hands. Like that's a lot of

19:35

blood for bare handed murder. If you ask

19:37

me. A person who has

19:39

never murdered anyone with my bare hands

19:41

that you know of. I

19:44

know of. So okay. Listen,

19:47

I have a few things. Mulder

19:50

is on the scene. He

19:53

is not answering. He

19:56

is not speaking to this man. He is

19:58

simply there to do his job. And

20:00

Jenny I would let I'm letting you know well

20:02

in advance of when we get to our superlative

20:05

Mulder is the smugest bitch of this fucking up I

20:09

think you're actually wrong, but we'll talk about

20:11

okay. I do have a second runner-up, but I'll wait

20:13

till we get to our superlative Okay,

20:17

they have this when we learn ease 42 they

20:19

have this exchange That I

20:21

feel is just very common in television

20:23

and also life like this isn't supposed

20:25

to happen here in our here And

20:28

Mulder well Kristen since colonial times

20:31

there have only been three murders

20:33

in this area The

20:35

last time somebody murdered somebody here with their

20:37

bare hands. They were wearing a powdered wig

20:39

is what I'm getting from this Yes,

20:43

and I like Mulder's response to this so

20:45

a man murders for strangers with his bare

20:47

hands It's actually not supposed to happen anywhere

20:49

sir Great point,

20:51

Mulder the implication that like crime is

20:53

only meant for big cities is just

20:56

like a whole thing You know really

20:58

I'm only meant for big cities and

21:00

also Kristen according to this police officer

21:03

Apple and cherry growers don't

21:05

drink much. Oh my god. I don't

21:08

do drugs I was like

21:10

I feel like if you surveyed

21:12

the like country that probably the

21:14

rates of Alcoholism and drug addiction

21:16

in small farming towns is gotta

21:18

be met I have not done

21:20

this research But I just

21:23

feel like rural areas are not in Anyone's

21:26

mind like the idea that cities are

21:28

the only place where crime happens like

21:30

that seems like oh, yeah Maybe like

21:32

someone might believe that because of the

21:34

way that cities are portrayed It's just

21:37

bizarre to me that we're saying that

21:39

these farmers simply have never touched a

21:41

drop of alcohol or done a single

21:43

drug a wise

21:45

man named Brad Paisley patron

21:47

saint of Rural

21:50

farming communities once said

21:53

rain makes corn corn

21:58

Makes whiskey with makes

22:00

my baby get a

22:02

little bit frisky. You do

22:04

the math, Kristen. You guys,

22:07

I fucking warned you that she was in a mood,

22:09

so I'm just

22:13

saying. Anyway,

22:15

there were, I mean, it's got

22:17

a lot of big, unfair ideas.

22:19

And Ms. Serif is correct. The

22:21

autopsy show, no alcohol, no substances

22:24

of any kind, like drugs,

22:26

drug use or anything like that. There

22:28

is an OJ, like an offhanded OJ

22:30

reference here, and then we see some

22:32

OJ footage later. This is

22:35

definitely the era of the OJ Simpson

22:38

trial. And we

22:40

learned that all of the suspected

22:43

killers have been killed. That's

22:45

seven people killing 22 people

22:48

in the last six months, bringing

22:50

this town's per capita murder

22:54

to higher than the combined

22:56

totals of Detroit, D.C. and

22:58

Los Angeles. It's like,

23:01

yeah, the sheriff just sitting there with

23:03

his little fucking abacus being like, click,

23:05

click, click, click, click. Oh,

23:08

okay. Huge development in

23:11

Mulderland. The

23:13

cop is like, I played softball with this guy. He

23:16

didn't mind getting stuck in right field. Mulder

23:18

is instantly on the defensive. What's

23:21

wrong with right field? You

23:23

got to have an arm to play right field.

23:25

The cop is continuing to give him information and

23:27

like to talk through stuff. And Mulder's like, I

23:31

play right field. We're like, we know. We could

23:34

tell before you said, you

23:37

know, does the FBI have a softball league?

23:39

You know, like for sure. Like for sure.

23:41

Show me the footage. Show me Scully and

23:43

Mulder on the same softball team playing. They're

23:45

the only two people on the team for

23:47

the X-Files. Funches

23:54

up at the ATM and here's Latoya's

23:56

favorite part of the episode. The little

23:58

girl behind him has a bloody nose.

24:00

The ATM

24:02

says security guard,

24:05

take his gun, kill them

24:08

all. I just

24:11

feel like either the

24:13

hallucinations are all are like

24:16

too the same or like

24:18

it's like the coincidence of like everyone getting

24:20

the same messaging or there's some kind of

24:22

like intentional kind

24:25

of messaging being distributed. But

24:27

how? But how and that doesn't I

24:29

mean that is not the case that

24:32

we've investigated by the end of this

24:34

episode. So in my in my canon,

24:36

this is simply their phobias, you

24:38

know, triggering hallucinations to

24:41

have to read the text on the screen to tell

24:43

them to do these things to kill or whatever.

24:45

So fine. But then Latoya also

24:47

has in her production notes that like, there's

24:49

sort of like a fear based message, but

24:51

then there also seems to be this like

24:54

predictive message and like, you can you can

24:56

say like, okay, maybe funch knew that the

24:58

like you saw the security guard when he

25:00

turned around to see the girl with the

25:02

bloody nose or whatever. But like later when

25:04

we get to the bus and it's like,

25:06

get off, they're waiting for you. It's like,

25:08

how are we how are the messages also

25:10

wise to the movements of the FBI?

25:12

Yeah. So it actually

25:15

Mulder sending transmitting the

25:17

message is a much more

25:19

I'm like, yeah, a much

25:21

more important development. After funch

25:24

punches the ATM and leaves his card

25:27

behind is that we learn the difference

25:29

between a spree killer and

25:31

a serial killer, Jenny. Yeah,

25:33

Mulder is tracking some

25:35

things in his what I've

25:37

decided to call start calling a guy

25:40

or a Oh, nice, nice. What's

25:42

the girl version of it? A gurnal? Just

25:45

a diary. Oh, I

25:47

thought I thought that you called a

25:49

girl journals gurnal. So is a

25:53

guyry, which honestly sounds like none

25:55

of my business somehow, but I don't

25:57

know why. Um,

26:01

Gurnell being a girl journalist, just

26:03

airtight logic that actually never occurred

26:05

to me previously, but I

26:08

celebrate it. Great. Uh,

26:10

okay. So what makes it a spree

26:13

killing? I'll tell you, Kristen, there's no

26:15

regard for anonymity and there's no regard

26:17

for survival of the

26:19

perpetrator. Yeah. He

26:22

says Mulder explains in his

26:24

diary, sorry, diary, um, to,

26:26

it's a directional diary too,

26:28

because it's too scully. Um,

26:32

he's saying that all the

26:34

people who have been killed

26:36

are middle income responsible people.

26:39

None of them have a history of violence. Um,

26:42

but he's convinced there is

26:44

an outside factor. He

26:46

wants to know what this residue is

26:48

that he found underneath the fingernails of

26:51

elevator man. He's

26:53

just so intuitive. This

26:58

is famous Mulder, famous

27:00

profiler Fox Mulder, you know, this

27:03

is him at work and we

27:05

get an amazing moment where he starts

27:08

to talk about UFOs and at home,

27:10

Scully is like reading it and she

27:12

says out loud, I was wondering when

27:14

you were going to get to that.

27:16

And then the next thing Mulder says

27:19

is I find no evidence for that

27:21

to be the case. And she's like,

27:23

oh, to Shay Fox Mulder. Um,

27:26

yeah. And then we learned that electronic equipment has

27:29

been destroyed at every scene so

27:31

far. But

27:34

he says Scully, I've never had a

27:36

more difficult time developing a profile. It

27:39

sounds like Mulder's being a bit of a drama queen. You

27:41

know what I mean? Little

27:44

dramatic sir Mulder. Well

27:46

if you think he's being dramatic before this line,

27:49

consider how dramatic you'll think he's going

27:51

to be after this line when he says there's no way to

27:53

know who will be a killer or who

27:55

will be killed. I'm sorry, it's just remember

27:57

when he like spent his entire career developing

27:59

a profile on Eugene Toomes who like goes

28:02

away for 30 years and makes himself

28:04

a cocoon of sludge and like eats

28:06

livers one by one. I just feel

28:08

like never had a

28:10

more difficult time developing a

28:13

profile, sir. I

28:15

don't know. Yeah. Alright,

28:17

let's get to this next scene in the mechanics

28:19

garage. This is a miss

28:21

for me big time. This is a point in

28:23

the episode where I'm like, did we really need

28:26

a phobia of rape as they were like, well,

28:28

we need to have a girl. They're all boys.

28:30

So we need to have a girl. What are

28:32

girls afraid of? I

28:34

can only think of one thing. But it's

28:38

a special phobia. It's a

28:40

special phobia actually based on

28:42

like legitimate fucking life experiences

28:44

by most. It just,

28:46

I mean, here's the

28:48

thing. I don't want to

28:50

be in that elevator crowded, but claustrophobia, like that's

28:53

a real thing where like you feel like you

28:55

can't breathe because you are in a tight little

28:57

space being afraid of blood. That's a real, the

28:59

blood's not going to hurt you. You know, it's,

29:01

you're okay. You're actually okay. Being

29:04

in a dark garage with a

29:06

man by yourself who keeps saying

29:08

come over here as one light

29:10

is cascading on his cheekbone just

29:12

feels like any woman in this

29:15

situation would be afraid, which is

29:17

why I take issue with it.

29:20

Yeah, totally. What I really take

29:22

issue with is how is this

29:25

man getting anything done with one

29:27

little exposed bulb? Honestly, this is

29:29

the darkest business that

29:32

has ever been open. I just think that

29:34

they like shot themselves in the foot a

29:36

bit by like, I mean, I don't think

29:38

that the choice to make this woman's phobia

29:40

rape was a good choice for any reason, but like, if

29:42

you're going to make it that she's like afraid of

29:44

violence from men or whatever, give

29:47

us a well lit area. Give us

29:49

like, give us something where like any

29:51

woman watching this could be like, Oh,

29:53

I wouldn't have felt afraid in that

29:55

scenario. Not one where like literally any

29:57

woman watching it is like, yeah, I

29:59

would definitely probably just leave. Like I would

30:01

not fucking walk over to this man, you

30:03

know? This woman is

30:07

played by Kimberly Ashland

30:09

Gear, who she goes by Ashland Gear

30:11

now, but she, and I learned this

30:13

from Latoya and then did some more

30:15

research, a former, she's

30:17

a former porn star. And they cast her

30:19

as a suburban housewife, though I'm not

30:22

sure that we get too much evidence of

30:24

necessarily that she's a suburban housewife. Husband not

30:26

found. I mean, she has a husband. She

30:28

says, who's away. She

30:30

lives in a house that feels very suburban.

30:33

Kristen, not

30:35

only is Ashland

30:37

Gear an American pornographic

30:40

film actress, who has

30:42

also performed in mainstream film and television, at

30:45

this moment, while

30:47

she is on the X-Files, she is like one

30:49

of the most popular performers.

30:51

Let me run down some awards for you.

30:54

We've got Best Actress

30:56

at the AVN Awards. We've got Best

30:58

All-Girl Sex Scene. Woo-hoo! We have the

31:00

AVN Awards in 93. Best Group Scene

31:02

in 93. Female Performer of the Year

31:04

in 93. Again, in 95, Best Actress

31:09

and Best Couple Sex Scene. She's in the

31:11

AVN Hall of Fame. There

31:14

are various other adult

31:16

film awards that she

31:18

has won for Starlet

31:20

of the Year, more Best

31:22

Actress, Best Girl Girl of Scenes. Listen,

31:24

there's just like a lot of

31:27

her work being appreciated. Mulder

31:29

probably has a lot of VHS

31:31

tapes of Ashland Gear back

31:33

at his apartment. Absolutely. So it's,

31:35

I think it's like particularly interesting that it's not

31:38

like, I feel like typically

31:40

you see somebody who was like maybe

31:42

like an actor in like

31:44

mainstream television and then like later in life

31:47

they make this transition or something, but this

31:49

is going on at the same time and

31:51

I think it's very cool.

31:53

Yeah, definitely. Another thing that's cool

31:55

is that this character has the

31:57

strength of 10 men. because

32:00

when the machine starts

32:03

telling her, he's lying to you,

32:05

because he's like, you know, well, this is broken, and this

32:07

other thing is broken, and by the way, you need to

32:09

get this fixed, and this is supposed to be, we're in

32:11

a round at 50 bits per second, and it's only we're

32:14

in a round at two, and blah, blah, blah. And

32:17

the machine is like, liar, he's a

32:19

liar. He'll rape you, he'll kill you,

32:21

kill him first. She

32:23

takes, I don't even know exactly what

32:25

this is, because it's kind of like

32:27

funnel or something, right? It's like, definitely,

32:30

it seems like it would

32:32

have a blunt edge. It does not seem like

32:34

what she uses to kill this man has a

32:36

sharp edge, and she pushes it through his entire

32:38

body, and

32:41

he dies. Also- Hell

32:43

yeah, Mrs. McRobber. If you don't wanna, if you don't wanna

32:46

men, to men in dark

32:48

garages, you know, turn a light on for us-

32:51

First turn a light on, for sure. For us

32:53

ladies, and for your own, you know, for your

32:55

own work, but also maybe- For your rods and

32:57

cones, buddy. If you don't

32:59

turn the light on, could you at least not whistle?

33:01

Because if you whistle, I am 100% convinced you

33:04

are going to do something horrible to me. Don't do

33:06

it, okay? Not in the dark, no thank you. Jenny,

33:10

before we go to the crime

33:12

scene bit of this, I wanted

33:14

to just say that I loved

33:16

the blood spatter on her heels.

33:18

I thought it was a very cool little shot.

33:22

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33:24

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33:26

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Wow. So it takes Motherwell

38:20

five seconds, the clock, a little computer

38:22

at the crime scene and he's like

38:24

a well, well well. Then

38:28

who should appear but Larry Winter

38:30

County Supervisor. You might remember him

38:32

as the head of the fertility

38:34

clinic. Oh okay, this is the

38:36

guy that looks like he spent

38:38

like at like ten minutes right

38:40

before each scene in a tanning

38:42

bed. That like slowly sprayed him

38:44

with tanning fluid and. Yes,

38:46

and he looks distinctly like someone who

38:48

has a ponytail even though he doesn't

38:51

add up at night. it's so strength

38:53

and and a how does that? I'm.

38:56

Kristin. Drink because Mother's that

38:58

has part in my rubber strength

39:00

up our that on our mold

39:02

or drinking bingo card. I just

39:04

think like of Mother speaks a

39:06

double entendre. Usually I drank okay great omit

39:08

Make sure to bring a beverage with me next

39:10

Sanctuary record and okay, Ah

39:13

of right. So it turns out

39:15

Moser molders over to this little

39:17

clipboard and he finds that the

39:19

reason a mess that she was

39:21

there with her car is because

39:23

their read outs on the dashboard

39:25

were smashed. He's like an electronic

39:27

piece of equipment. I doesn't know

39:29

who within the caught like would

39:32

see what happened in the car

39:34

her will we already know that

39:36

is really strong that as he

39:38

punched it. For sure, but she got a relative

39:40

happening in the garage and isn't. Saw.

39:42

On know. Just eating.

39:45

So it was in the car with her

39:47

though. you're thing about year they give her

39:49

husband died as a kind of what I'm

39:51

saying you know I mean like with her

39:53

husband in the car and that or husband

39:55

or something bullshit and will get a reign

39:57

of ham for that last the-and co has

39:59

Van oh my. I did

40:01

finish watching Fargo season two so I

40:03

made this. He also kill the husband

40:05

and that's why the cars in the

40:08

shop you know he a bomb. Okay

40:10

so mother has put all his pieces

40:12

together and he's decided is actually is

40:15

not a standalone cases is connected despite

40:17

the fact that it's not a public

40:19

area despite the fact that nothing electronic

40:22

with smashed on the sea and et

40:24

cetera and so they go to the

40:26

house of Mrs Make Roberts's is making

40:29

a English muffin. To distances make an

40:31

English muffin, Why not? Super.

40:33

Late for work. But. She hasn't made her

40:35

breakfast yet and also doesn't have a car were

40:38

to assume because it's the most important meal of

40:40

the day. The

40:43

microwave. Is. Here to

40:45

tell her he knows.

40:48

He'll. I'm both this. there's.

40:50

No. One when did you know that he

40:52

that when you're anxious you actually never think

40:55

the word of them as success as sister

40:57

known fact about anxiety allah. Now

41:00

I didn't go back and freeze frame mess

41:02

but the second time that I watch this

41:05

I'm pretty sure that on the wall of

41:07

Mrs. Mcroberts house there is a supreme This.

41:10

Collage. Of. Just

41:12

collies the the greed of

41:14

stall. Like

41:16

a piece of life. A very ninety ninety

41:19

forty. Ah yes, the. Replace up

41:21

if we're going to be like

41:23

a piece a big construction paper

41:25

and it looked like emitters Mcroberts

41:27

perhaps to see for anxiety suited

41:29

like out of them collies and

41:31

not. And Glue Single Iran

41:33

and Mobo Mcroberts City

41:36

Britain Dog the fancy

41:38

subscriber. So

41:41

he died in it when inaugural bird. The

41:43

October issue has a collie on the cover.

41:45

Mrs. Make Roberts is to dogs. And

41:47

fi as moulder as to. Celebrity.

41:49

Skyn, You know so true. Oh.

41:52

Okay, so Moser. Asked

41:55

her about the das and

41:57

see break the media away.

42:00

I did it. I didn't see that

42:02

com me there s. You. Know

42:04

the city of things you didn't

42:06

see coming. Jenny mother doesn't see

42:08

it coming that this woman who

42:11

has her whole hand and an

42:13

open drawer unless I manage your

42:15

fingernails, search for at least a

42:17

subsurface up. My

42:19

to be about to say that

42:22

my about exam I just cia

42:24

sir. Sir, But

42:26

that ain't' right. I

42:30

also like I understand that.

42:33

She. Has a kitchen knife and

42:35

has caught Molders little arm, but

42:37

it does not seem like that

42:40

would have required the sheriff to

42:42

shoot and kill her. Though.

42:45

What? Am I talking about right? Of course

42:47

it would. But it's it's it's It's not.

42:49

It's. As though I just lady had

42:51

a gun. She like literally nick to

42:53

older as arm and like probably could

42:55

be could have been restrained. With force.

42:58

Hard to imagine a police officer

43:00

overreacting. Part Oh I know. But.

43:03

That's you know it is why it's a fictionalized.

43:05

Show in in Re re

43:07

re really dramatize for effect.

43:09

So back at Quantico. Skill.

43:12

He has, oh yeah allows any

43:14

tell us all about it. Bonnie's.

43:19

Adrenalin, Was.

43:21

Two hundred times.

43:24

The. Norm. Such. A

43:26

lot of adrenaline. any that flat

43:29

is athlete unbearable amount. Of adrenalin.

43:31

At least six cups of coffee at least,

43:33

you know, If I had that

43:35

much adrenaline coursing through a been, I

43:37

might actually stop recognizing the were in

43:39

them and only understand the were in

43:41

an interesting as I actually could. you

43:43

might have that much adrenaline coursing through.

43:47

A lot like that separates.

43:51

Oh my favorite part of Scully

43:53

report is that see his extracted

43:56

something from the eyeballs that has.

44:01

That has ah similarity to

44:03

the substance found underneath the

44:05

claustrophobic mans think he is.

44:07

So we're getting somewhere and

44:10

this is where she puts

44:12

stinky gunk an eyeball guns

44:14

together sir. Get to. I'm

44:17

sorry. Her theory of at their

44:19

phobia combined with the substance I have

44:21

an effect like our see. I'm

44:24

from. What does

44:26

Agent Scully know about Lsd is?

44:30

Absolutely nothing. Moser,

44:33

On the other hand, definitely knows a thing you're

44:35

sitting. Oh, Okay,

44:39

oh god, sunsets gonna apply

44:41

for a job. He's so

44:43

sweaty. There's a blood dry heat

44:46

and as I thought going wrong for

44:48

old add funds. Oh

44:52

my God. you're not wrong. and

44:54

it doesn't either. Good. can't get

44:56

any worse. The television display starts

44:59

showing him a loop. Have. Some.

45:01

Disturbing. Timely images?

45:03

Yeah, these are all I mean.

45:05

This is really like a time

45:08

capsule of the things happening in

45:10

the U S at this moment.

45:12

We've got Charles Manson, We've got

45:14

Rodney King and Reginald Denny at

45:16

We've Guy at. The Waco

45:18

com pounds and and then

45:20

Oj Simpson police says but

45:22

this basically just like all

45:24

as the is. Very.

45:27

Very big moments in all

45:29

of our. Collective. Consciousness

45:31

Right at this moment. when. This show

45:33

is being that are all either like

45:35

directly or. A Jason

45:37

Lee attached to violence. Yes, Oh.

45:42

No, that's it. You listen here that

45:44

peers a tip. if oh, six to

45:46

twelve televisions and a stack go to

45:48

static at the same time you gotta

45:51

leave. You just leave right? Get out

45:53

of and thousand a what they have

45:55

to say if they say behind you

45:57

or god forbid behind the am. A

46:01

bit out there, so look at the gun

46:03

from the Tv, they're trying to direct you

46:05

towards the only thing Contain and Sadek is.

46:07

Evil. That's what I have to say.

46:09

Hey, don't look into it and it.

46:12

Is. In their sadek at the end of the

46:14

ring video you keep bringing up with a

46:16

ring guiana know something's any. You know I

46:18

have that dominated tell you the truth. I'm

46:21

ready. I've never fucking simmering. Like

46:27

I'd I know a lot of

46:29

of our conjured for me when

46:31

I think of the Rams. so.

46:35

Sorry. To tell you this

46:37

but we are going to be

46:39

hosting a group. Lots of the

46:41

rings saw See, I'm really sorry

46:43

Life without an ass. You're going

46:46

to have to watch it and other

46:48

people are gonna have the experience you

46:50

saw. The people are getting get to experience

46:52

the watching it. Grates well I'll

46:54

make sure it's one of amp he is on the

46:56

road because there's no fucking way she's going to watch

46:58

for a. Good

47:00

skill of on. About the would

47:02

what a finish. Watching the ring and her face

47:05

would just be twisted sphere and the death maddox.

47:07

Other the people who die in

47:09

the really putting the ring video.

47:11

oh okay. Motors

47:14

on a little jog. He got sab

47:16

so bad but it's not bad guys.

47:18

he's this on a little jaunt. he's

47:20

fine. So there's this truck it is

47:23

dumping dead flies on the side of

47:25

the road. This jenny. They. Actually, talk

47:27

about the real story that

47:29

this all is based on.

47:32

In the eighties arm there's a substance

47:34

called malathion. I think they set a.

47:36

Nap. Seven, I sold on how to say it. But

47:38

it was a some sense that as

47:40

being. You. Know put on the

47:43

crops in California and it's the Eco

47:45

terrorists. Heard of them as they fucking

47:47

and were in the alley. Debug episode

47:50

it from last season Ever see a

47:52

real life Eco terrorists were saying that

47:54

any time they found out that this

47:57

chemical has been dropped on cry they

47:59

would release this fruit fly called the

48:01

med fly that would destroy that. Like

48:04

the basically the more the chemical has

48:06

been dropped the more flies they would

48:08

send out into. The

48:11

California fields or whatever. First.

48:15

Of all this. Person.

48:17

Sized group as I imagine you need to

48:19

be more than one person to release submit

48:21

a large amounts of med. Flies. But are they

48:24

are not your like the Lord of the Flies?

48:26

oh right at that's true or but they didn't

48:28

call themselves the Lord of the Fuck face cause

48:30

of a self. The Lord of the

48:32

Flies miss opportunities to they call

48:34

themselves as the Breeders. Ah an

48:36

insidious when the artist orders. I

48:38

got this article in office hours

48:40

and the web article with seven.

48:43

I opened it and was like

48:45

who were the Breeders and where

48:47

they responsible for California Strangest case

48:49

of eco terrorism I like a

48:51

legit for a minute was like

48:53

the The Musical Gleam deal with

48:55

for him Anyway, the singular want

48:57

to tell you about this real

48:59

life version of this episode. Is

49:01

that? The. Director of

49:04

the California Conservation Corps.

49:06

This guy. Bt Collins to

49:08

prove to the public that

49:10

Malathion with save his rank

49:13

a small glass event in

49:15

front of news cameras. Oh.

49:20

So you can read all about that

49:22

on your own time. But this is

49:24

like Sprite like this story is. basically

49:27

this big guy, did he die, he

49:29

didn't die is to use Actually okay,

49:31

I'm it. turns out that bad substance

49:33

didn't really do a good job during

49:35

what are we supposed to do anyway.

49:37

So it's not used anywhere but so

49:40

my com but he added quite deadly

49:42

enough. Ah, any of

49:44

back to our flies are

49:46

actual flies. Odds? Any? Of

49:48

course he's gonna go where

49:50

he's got a good sat

49:52

with the lone gunmen. Ah,

49:54

the lone gunmen. Garth.

49:58

Settled. in and i Off

50:00

mic told Jenny I cannot remember what I called

50:03

frohickey. So Garth Sheldon and

50:05

frohickey the three gunman The

50:09

three low Okay,

50:14

so they asked some stuff to share with

50:17

Mulder because Mulder of course can't

50:20

go to Scully. She is too pregnant to

50:22

discuss flies Yeah,

50:26

what do you think your pregnancy threshold is for Talking

50:30

about like

50:32

government laced flies Honestly whenever

50:34

anyone is doing anything and they

50:36

are past like the eight month

50:39

place in a pregnancy I just

50:41

don't understand it at all. I don't

50:43

understand how Gillian Anderson is just acting

50:45

I don't understand how Scully

50:48

would ever talk about flies I don't

50:50

understand how anyone does anything because at eight

50:52

months pregnant I would

50:54

be sitting in my house on

50:56

my couch eating popcorn drinking water

50:58

laying down on my bed Right

51:00

like just that's it. I am

51:03

I am the vessel for a large

51:06

human I should not be

51:08

asked to do anything else My

51:12

opinion Certainly

51:15

not explain the nature of LSD

51:17

M. Certainly not Chemically

51:19

having that report is called lysergic Dimethrin

51:23

It's an unreleased experimental synthetic botanical insecticide. It

51:26

attempts to act as a natural pheromone LSD

51:28

M is sprayed on the plant which invokes

51:30

a fear response in the past, you

51:33

know, get out of here There's danger the

51:35

insect reacts and leaves the plant. Why

51:37

won't they release it? Is it possible? It

51:39

affects humans in the same way. Is

51:41

it possible? It

51:44

affects humans in the

51:46

same Way molder

51:49

just throwing bull's-eyes from

51:51

like outside of the

51:53

bar He's throwing the dart through the window

51:55

into the bar hitting a bull's-eye all the

51:57

time They

52:00

show this footage, and I did

52:02

not look up to see if

52:04

this is real footage, but it definitely appears to

52:07

be real footage of DDT. It is

52:10

simply being sprayed upon people, similarly

52:12

to how we will see Mulder

52:14

get sprayed in the next scene.

52:18

I have this memory of my dad telling

52:20

me how when they were kids, they

52:23

would go and run behind the

52:25

machines that sprayed the chemicals. Like

52:27

literally that was a game they

52:30

played as children. Kind

52:33

of like running through the sprinklers. Exactly!

52:36

Long Island fun games just run

52:38

behind the machines spraying chemicals. But

52:42

anyway, DDT, I'm assuming folks

52:44

already know about this chemical.

52:47

It was really bad for, I mean, here's

52:50

the thing. You said

52:52

Mulder standing outside the window throwing the dart

52:55

into the bar and hitting the bullseye.

52:57

But like, the

52:59

generalized concept, the chemicals

53:02

that alter the biological composition of

53:04

one thing altering the biological composition

53:06

of another thing is not that

53:08

hard to figure out how are

53:10

we doing these things to our

53:13

crops? How are we doing these

53:15

things to our bodies? It's

53:18

not, this is, it's, come

53:20

on. Okay. Anyway,

53:23

to the crops. Frohickey

53:26

said that he would only let

53:28

Mulder borrow his night vision goggles

53:30

if he could have Scully's phone

53:32

number. You know that Mulder probably

53:34

gave him a noogie and then

53:36

took the fucking goggles and left, you

53:39

know? Yeah, Mulder

53:41

would never give Frohickey Scully's

53:44

number, right? Never!

53:46

Never! Mulder's a lot of

53:48

things, but he would never put Scully in a

53:51

position to have to deal with Frohickey. He knows

53:53

what kind of dude Frohickey is and he does

53:55

not want to subject Scully to that. Plus,

53:58

I mean, he wants to date Scully, so. My

54:02

first note in the crops is more

54:04

mull duckling because we've got a lot

54:06

of little, a lot of like, like

54:08

backlit. I wrote, yeah, when Mulder's haircut

54:10

is backlit, it is somehow even worse.

54:12

Yeah. Could

54:15

you tell if this was an apple orchard or

54:17

a cherry orchard? I couldn't, but

54:19

I didn't try. I was like squinting at

54:21

the leaves. Jenny was

54:23

raised in farmland, New

54:26

Jersey. So like actually does have

54:28

the intel. Actually, half of my family

54:30

is from a town

54:32

that's like about an hour away

54:34

from Franklin, Pennsylvania. Yeah.

54:36

They would probably have a lot of farming up

54:38

there. They would probably have

54:40

had a lot to say to us, Jenny, about

54:44

the use of chemicals, you know, like they were

54:46

right there. Chemicals and also like how

54:49

much farmers drink. I'll tell

54:51

you that my grandfather

54:53

who had grapes

54:56

was like his grapes and I think apples were

54:58

like his primary crops. But

55:00

he had like a farm stand where like

55:02

he sold his produce, but he also sold

55:05

like wine making kits. Like it

55:07

was like a lot of people like

55:09

wanted the grapes and then they wanted to ferment them

55:11

themselves and the wine. So

55:14

I'm just saying, you know, that sounds like

55:16

people drinking in a very rural

55:19

farm y area.

55:22

Definitely. Also, I'm sure

55:24

we talked about it on the podcast or at

55:26

least one of the podcasts before, but it

55:29

should be mentioned in this an episode that

55:32

takes place in an apple

55:34

farming town that Jenny's mom was

55:36

actually named the Apple

55:38

Queen. If I'm

55:40

correct. Here

55:42

we go. So Jenny, if you I mean,

55:44

you know, we should get Roxy's permission, but if

55:47

you could find the picture of Roxy as the

55:49

Apple Queen, I would love to share it with

55:52

our listeners. It's pretty fucking epic.

55:55

So it's it's pretty good. It's pretty

55:57

good. I'll see what I can do. Meanwhile,

56:01

Mulder is on the fucking

56:04

grass just drinking whatever this

56:06

comes... LSD-T. LSD-Dt.

56:10

That's what it's called. LSTM.

56:14

LSTM. Okay. In...

56:21

In the medical exam room, Larry

56:24

Winter is like, you have a penchant

56:26

for... looks directly

56:28

into camera. Spooky evidence! This

56:31

is, uh, further

56:33

support for Latoya's proposal

56:35

that maybe this show doesn't know what the

56:37

word spooky means. A hundred percent. Also,

56:39

I just... So I find his head whips up. It's

56:44

just find it hard to believe that in

56:46

Franklin, Pennsylvania, this guy has heard about

56:48

Mulder's spooky reputation, you know? Right?

56:51

Um... He's

56:53

not like Googling Mulder. He gives him

56:56

the classic, I'm the father of a

56:58

daughter defense against why he's not spraying.

57:01

You don't live here. I live here.

57:03

I have my heart in this town.

57:05

I have three daughters. I'm the father

57:08

of a daughter. Do you think fathers

57:10

of daughters spray chemicals in their towns?

57:13

The sheriff who... listen. The

57:15

sheriff is not my favorite character to have ever

57:17

graced the X-Files because I feel like his arc

57:19

is kind of a cool one on the paper,

57:22

but it does not land

57:24

for me on the paper, on the page.

57:26

I feel like it doesn't land for me

57:28

in the performance, all respect to this actor,

57:30

but it's just like when you get... when

57:33

we get to this point where the sheriff

57:35

is saying to this guy, answer the question,

57:37

are we spraying? Like, I want the kind

57:39

of tension. Remember her speaking

57:41

of the LED bugs? Remember back

57:43

in that episode, what is the name of

57:46

that episode? Darkness Falls. In Darkness Falls, we

57:48

had like the sheriff and then like the

57:50

deputy sheriff or whatever, and the sheriff was

57:52

a real dickhead and got eaten by the

57:54

LED bugs. Great. But There

57:56

was a tension there that felt like I was not the

57:58

sheriff. Whatever. The guy

58:01

in charge the the top three chopper

58:03

lieutenant? Yes, yes, three topper the Us

58:05

N. like. I just feel the tension

58:08

between them was compelling and interesting. Yeah,

58:10

yeah, totally not. Get back here and

58:12

that we're. Getting at. We're not getting in here.

58:14

Gnome. So

58:17

right winter going on about how it's really

58:19

safe. Ultimately, scully.

58:21

says. I'd. Love

58:24

to say I flew here to tell

58:26

you you're going to be the next

58:28

Charles Manson but you are not Toxic

58:30

li affected a pleasant surprise the in

58:32

my opinion smog is bit of the

58:34

episode about. Oh okay wow we're sitting

58:37

as scaly and moulder against each other.

58:39

we gonna do a pillow for which

58:41

one's the at. My good match

58:43

for have. Any and if we

58:45

disagree, maybe we have descended to the

58:47

votes. Yeah, I think there might be

58:49

responsible so I'm. This guy says

58:51

that it was proven him that this

58:54

chemical with safe he won't say who

58:56

proved it to him and this this

58:58

says the sheriff's gets him to agree

59:00

to a compromise. Pretty. Quickly

59:02

where they'll stop using the chemical.

59:04

They'll test everyone. But the only

59:06

way they'll do that as by

59:08

not admitting. What? They're

59:11

testing for. The. For all

59:13

of this happen after Scully as

59:15

a Smart Reds according to Jennifer

59:17

Own young. Ah, the

59:19

television fakes out moulder by flashing do

59:21

it, Do it now and then. It's

59:23

like a lady in a gym t

59:25

shirt where it's like suing for a

59:28

fifth. See Ninety Nine a month. The

59:30

great how it did was at the

59:32

same fonts as the L as the

59:34

a message saying but it isn't. Actually

59:36

it isn't the same. Fine, it's just

59:38

a regular font. I think it's not

59:40

like I'm no way it is, it's

59:42

I first time we see it like

59:44

an actual fun instead of like guy

59:46

on her any font. but I think

59:48

even when we see the calculator where

59:50

it said later letters. But I think

59:52

even when it's a fun I feel

59:54

like the Lsd fun as a sans

59:56

serif and I maybe I'm wrong, but

59:59

I thought that. the photo of

1:00:01

the gym ad was a Sarah font.

1:00:05

Ben Mulder, I thought of you

1:00:07

Jenny, because Mulder basically slams his

1:00:09

folder down on Scully's little desk

1:00:11

and says, Scully have you ever

1:00:13

heard of the subliminal messages alien?

1:00:17

And she's like, okay, I take it back. You

1:00:20

know what, you fucking are paranoid, you

1:00:22

asshole. Um,

1:00:26

we started with the sound clip up at the top, which

1:00:30

is Mulder's reasoning, right? He's like,

1:00:32

this is a controlled experiment. Um,

1:00:35

they've done it before Scully is,

1:00:37

okay. Scully actually might take

1:00:39

the lead on Smuggasditch. I told you.

1:00:43

In this moment, you're right. She's got

1:00:45

three points on her side of the

1:00:47

line. Yeah, I forgot about her. What

1:00:50

is it? The reticulans dig from Scully.

1:00:52

Yeah, that's pretty smug. But

1:00:55

Mulder says that he thinks that this is

1:00:57

happening because of fear. He says fear is

1:00:59

the oldest tool of power. If

1:01:02

you're distracted by the fear of those

1:01:04

around you, it keeps you from seeing

1:01:07

the actions of those above. Seems

1:01:09

like perhaps we're talking about

1:01:11

a little bit more than

1:01:13

the chemicals and the pesticides

1:01:15

in Franklin, Pennsylvania. What?

1:01:20

Kristen, are you drinking what I'm drinking? I'm

1:01:23

just saying. Like he's

1:01:25

talking about the aliens here. That's

1:01:28

all I'm just saying. We're not just talking

1:01:31

about fucking chemicals. Oh, when

1:01:33

you say the actions of those above,

1:01:35

you don't think he's talking about like

1:01:37

the power, the hierarchy, the power structure.

1:01:39

No, I do. But I think he's

1:01:41

saying that if they are distracted by

1:01:44

the things that are happening right in

1:01:46

their orbit, they're not gonna see the

1:01:48

things that are happening where smoking man

1:01:50

lives. You know what I mean? Like

1:01:52

I, that's what he's talking about, I

1:01:54

think, in this moment in addition to

1:01:56

whatever. Okay.

1:02:00

So free cholesterol testing. Hooray! It's actually testing

1:02:02

to make sure we didn't kill you with

1:02:04

the chemicals. We sprayed on your crops. Um...

1:02:07

Terrible, terrible news for Eddie. He

1:02:10

does not want his blood collected.

1:02:12

Points to Ed. He battled it for a long

1:02:14

time. He really tried to kill... He tried to

1:02:17

not kill them all. Not kill them all. Um...

1:02:20

Kill them all, sorry. Kill them all. Kill them

1:02:22

all. The doorbell rings. Here's

1:02:24

a fun trivia fact that I found accidentally,

1:02:27

which is that, um... Oh, by the way,

1:02:29

my second runner-up for Smuckest Bitch before you

1:02:31

brought Scully into the conversation was this fucking

1:02:33

bitch on the doorbell. Are you kidding me,

1:02:35

ma'am? Well

1:02:37

that could actually... It's possible that she's not actually

1:02:39

going buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

1:02:42

buzz, but in Edward's mind, she's hearing

1:02:44

buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

1:02:46

buzz. Well, Jenny, did you know that the

1:02:49

doorbell... You are right, because

1:02:51

the doorbell pattern actually spells

1:02:53

out kill in Morse code.

1:02:55

I know. Good shit. I

1:02:58

love it. I love it. He

1:03:00

knocks the calculator to the ground. He picks it up.

1:03:02

It says boobs, which is not really in keeping

1:03:04

with the rest of the episode. Hell

1:03:16

yes, Tristan. We

1:03:18

all thought it. Like, I said it in the...

1:03:20

I said it in Office Hours in Latoya. That

1:03:22

was actually my first production note, but I took it out

1:03:24

because I didn't feel as professional. I said,

1:03:26

you better not hold out on us, Latoya. Yeah,

1:03:29

the only... Well, not the

1:03:31

only, but the thoughts I want most

1:03:34

from Latoya are the thoughts about boobs typed

1:03:36

out on a calculator. Boobs typed

1:03:38

out on a calculator. Hot aliens with

1:03:41

tits. Like, come on, Latoya. So

1:03:47

he smashes every electronic device in

1:03:50

his fucking house, including a really

1:03:52

gorgeous turntable and receiver that I

1:03:54

was personally happy to see go.

1:03:58

And then he takes the gun. and

1:04:01

he leaves. I love that they

1:04:03

gave the sheriff a map to point at.

1:04:05

This is a map of the sectors that

1:04:08

tested negative. Here's a list of people who

1:04:10

haven't checked in yet. The next person on

1:04:12

the list, like below all the names that

1:04:14

are crossed out, Edward Funch. Fucking

1:04:17

make it to the door. Ed has ripped

1:04:19

the doorbell from It's Socket,

1:04:21

which honestly like relatable content. If somebody fucking

1:04:23

done the same. This

1:04:26

scene I meant to say with the

1:04:28

woman buzzing at the door and him

1:04:31

seeing everything on all the electronics reminded

1:04:34

me of the scene

1:04:36

from Requiem for a Dream where she's

1:04:38

inside with the refrigerator. Which I think

1:04:41

is like who

1:04:43

LaToya's point, like what this

1:04:45

episode does really well. Like that scene

1:04:47

from Requiem for a Dream along with

1:04:49

a couple of others are burned into my mind

1:04:51

for all of eternity. But

1:04:54

because it's so terrifying and you

1:04:56

feel like you're inside of the

1:04:58

mind that is being haunted, is

1:05:00

being whatever. And I think that

1:05:03

they do a really good job.

1:05:05

David Nutter again, you

1:05:07

know. Yeah. Doing some good shit

1:05:09

and really makes you feel the like panic

1:05:12

that Funch is feeling when he

1:05:14

leaves the house. So yeah.

1:05:18

Mulder and Scully go in, they see

1:05:20

all of the smooshed electronics and

1:05:22

an empty gun

1:05:25

case. When Mulder, I'm

1:05:27

making a vampi watch all the episodes with

1:05:29

me this season. We'll see how far we

1:05:31

get. But we're three for three on

1:05:33

season two. And when Mulder

1:05:36

pushed his hand on the foam in

1:05:38

the gun case, she was like, is

1:05:40

he checking? Is it like warm? Like

1:05:42

is he like the gun was shot

1:05:44

here? I can

1:05:46

feel it's presence. Oh my

1:05:48

god, he must have just missed it. Um,

1:05:51

sad, sad news. Edward

1:05:54

Funch's wife died ten years ago. That

1:05:56

is sad news. And he hasn't seen a doctor in

1:05:58

decades. Do you think

1:06:01

that you think that her death do we find

1:06:03

out how she died because maybe her death involved

1:06:05

though? I wonder if her dad was a lot

1:06:07

of blood exactly like I wonder if it's here

1:06:10

rooted in the loss of his wife There's

1:06:14

this moment where they like Scully's

1:06:16

like he hasn't seen a doctor in decades and

1:06:18

Mulder is like the math meme and it's like

1:06:21

oh He's probably afraid of

1:06:23

but he picks up the watch and the watch is

1:06:25

smashed and it stopped at 1030 Which

1:06:27

is exactly when the woman was ringing the

1:06:29

buzzer to come collect blood samples a

1:06:33

little bit much, but okay Mulder

1:06:37

Knows now where he's

1:06:40

going. He's gonna get involved in this blood drive

1:06:42

shout out to William

1:06:45

Sanderson for

1:06:47

this scene that Screaming

1:06:49

yeah, the way he screams is a screaming

1:06:51

a driver. It's so good

1:06:54

Mike he probably needed to sit down

1:06:56

and have a glass of water after this take

1:06:58

because that yeah like he really Gonna

1:07:01

fuck wild. Yeah So

1:07:04

he gets on the buzz he gets off the bus and

1:07:06

he's ultimately headed for this clock tower. I have an idea

1:07:09

Yeah, maybe every clock tower. We have

1:07:11

somebody at the bottom who doesn't let

1:07:14

dudes with duffel bags go up. Yeah

1:07:16

Yeah, yeah, I agree because this is

1:07:18

really not reminiscent of I mean Just

1:07:21

an hour universe of watching television shows.

1:07:24

This is earshot adjacent This

1:07:26

is you know where Jonathan goes

1:07:28

and earshot in Buffy the vampire

1:07:30

Slayer, but also yeah, I agree I

1:07:33

also think that this clock tower is so beautiful

1:07:35

and I don't I didn't finish my research on

1:07:37

this But I was like, where is this like

1:07:40

what's happening here? And when I found what

1:07:42

I think was listed as the shooting location

1:07:44

and I googled that location There was like

1:07:46

a very shiny new kind of mirrored building

1:07:49

there and I was sad and I don't

1:07:51

know yet If I actually have caused to

1:07:53

be sad, but I feel like maybe this cocktail

1:07:55

is no more. It's so cool like

1:07:57

the yellow glass inside It

1:08:00

just is very very fun. It seems

1:08:02

like if I were a location scout

1:08:04

and I found this I would be

1:08:07

fucking stoked You know yeah So

1:08:10

fun goes all the way up all the way up

1:08:12

all the way up. Oh, I meant to say something

1:08:14

Jenny This is a very small point, but still when

1:08:17

the bus gets there To

1:08:20

the hospital they've narrowed it down the Franklin

1:08:22

cops Honestly doing a not a bad job at tracking

1:08:24

where this man might be they're like That's the bus

1:08:26

that he would be on if he's on a bus

1:08:29

Yeah, Mulder goes up to the bus driver

1:08:32

and is like have you seen this man

1:08:34

and the bus driver says Yes,

1:08:37

I picked him up. We drove four feet,

1:08:39

and then he went ape wire, and I

1:08:41

thought ape wire I never know

1:08:43

how words are used so maybe I always

1:08:45

thought it was ape or haywire But

1:08:48

it is I was right Kristen was right it

1:08:50

is ape or Haywire,

1:08:53

but this man says distinctly and in

1:08:55

the captions he went ape wire. That

1:08:57

is not a thing The end

1:09:00

thank you for coming to my TED talk on one time that

1:09:02

Kristen knew a phrase correctly I

1:09:06

Love it Speaking

1:09:08

of phrases that are correct once

1:09:11

Edward starts shooting Poor

1:09:13

Edward is really going through it The

1:09:15

sheriff says all the

1:09:17

units forthwith Kristen

1:09:22

Get yourself a sheriff who says all

1:09:24

units forthwith what is

1:09:26

forthwith mean? Jenny

1:09:28

for the listeners at home Jenny has to look it up

1:09:31

So I'm not the only host of this

1:09:33

broadcast that doesn't know the meaning forthwith

1:09:35

especially in official use Immediately

1:09:39

without delay forthwith okay, okay?

1:09:43

Jenny get me to the

1:09:45

recording forthwith you know Okay,

1:09:51

so yes he is Shooting

1:09:54

From the top of this clock tower it

1:09:56

appears. He does not hit anyone thankfully. Thank

1:09:58

God. And thankfully he has

1:10:01

the kind of gun that needs to be loaded

1:10:03

one bullet at a time when she loves slavery

1:10:05

or love that we love. I love this. A

1:10:07

Tv. Is in that apartments? or didn't say?

1:10:11

Go automatic, right? Probably automatic weapons were not

1:10:13

for sale in a department store. At

1:10:15

this time, ninety in a he may

1:10:18

be for yeah, maybe not. Ah, I'm.

1:10:21

Also. Add. Says i've

1:10:23

seen that hos and I don't

1:10:26

want to see that again baby

1:10:28

Y. No. Idea what that

1:10:30

is why he says that line. Was.

1:10:36

It's right now I'm googling. It's right buyer

1:10:38

for the man at. The

1:10:40

so you probably. Got distracted by forthwith. Yaya.

1:10:44

I've seen that horse and I don't want to see it

1:10:46

again. Maybe. Noom. Are

1:10:49

saying. I. Got nothin. google.

1:10:51

Got nothin I should say? Well mother's

1:10:53

gotten to the top of the clock

1:10:55

tower as. Well now and on

1:10:58

his way here. plus a real

1:11:00

Bella Swan and. Same

1:11:03

no. Est

1:11:05

Drugs. And he

1:11:07

fell and hit his armor. and she's

1:11:09

having a back and forth with Ed

1:11:11

who at first as don't kill me

1:11:14

but then sort of realizes. That

1:11:16

you can't put the gun down. They.

1:11:19

Won't. Let him put the gun down said

1:11:21

than he is essentially doing what all of

1:11:23

these other folks have done with the cops

1:11:26

in the house Have been there is like.

1:11:28

It. They they won't put the gun down they

1:11:30

won't but the weapon down and said in

1:11:32

the cops use force and then they die

1:11:34

So he saying miss some older he sang

1:11:36

like you make me put it down then you

1:11:39

do it and mother tries to use when he

1:11:41

knows about at it's to say listen if you

1:11:43

don't put that gun down one of us is

1:11:45

going to shoot the other one and then there's

1:11:48

gonna be blood everywhere. And

1:11:50

ads like okay, great point. Let me

1:11:52

put this goddamn oh did. She is

1:11:55

this. Ama.is

1:11:57

or I've read

1:11:59

co. Like an incredible

1:12:01

shriek again of from yeah,

1:12:03

this guy. Safely.

1:12:05

Mother tackles him and nobody has

1:12:08

to die who once. You just

1:12:10

this once rouse everybody lives.

1:12:14

Ads we'll the way in a stretcher.

1:12:17

This. Is a real horror movie ending you

1:12:20

know? Mother picks up the cell phone

1:12:22

to call Scaly. we get the heart

1:12:24

be back in the score. And

1:12:27

then his phone says. All

1:12:29

done. By by. Scully.

1:12:35

On the other end of like Moser Missouri,

1:12:37

where are you mother? So.

1:12:40

S is any what's your interpretation. Of.

1:12:42

This as a don't know what to

1:12:44

make. I don't know what to

1:12:46

make of this. J. My. Is

1:12:48

molders seer. Talking

1:12:51

to Scott the you know remake as

1:12:53

he does does he pick up a

1:12:55

says he an act as as phobia

1:12:57

that he has real feeling for Scully

1:12:59

but he doesn't want to have them.

1:13:01

no no no if anything his phobia

1:13:03

is that of. The Government

1:13:06

or whomever sees all and knows

1:13:08

all. All done.

1:13:10

Bye bye bye bye bye

1:13:12

bye you next time Such.

1:13:19

As my with oh commentary Christian, what

1:13:21

are your thoughts on that of Yeah

1:13:23

Styles Season Three Episode three But ah.

1:13:28

Well. I don't know but

1:13:30

I'm I'm gonna go out. On a limb here. This

1:13:32

probably longer my crystal ball segment but I'm gonna

1:13:34

got a limb here and say that motor will

1:13:36

not be seeing anything. Written to him in

1:13:38

electronics by the time we get to the

1:13:40

next episode. Okay, let's hope

1:13:43

so. It's of not. Well.

1:13:45

Person, it's time for us to address.

1:13:49

Your phobia. My.

1:13:52

Nonsense. Lots of the A C.

1:13:54

Alzheimer's like sex and it's

1:13:56

the i'm Afraid of His

1:13:58

exit. All. That said, ring. You're

1:14:00

the one who says it's none of your business. Sex

1:14:05

of Attention

1:14:09

Award! Well,

1:14:14

here we are again. Neck

1:14:18

deep in the Sexual Attention Awards. Here's

1:14:21

the thing, this episode is not very sexy. It's

1:14:23

not. But we've done our best,

1:14:25

yes. Here we

1:14:27

go again on our own, but

1:14:29

not on our very lone. Oh,

1:14:31

because of sexual attention. Going

1:14:34

down the- Here we go again on our own as

1:14:36

like a good lone gunman seems on. Yeah.

1:14:41

Alright Jenny, hit us with your sweet sweet

1:14:43

noms. In slot

1:14:45

number one, sometimes there

1:14:47

is a love so deep

1:14:49

and yet so forbidden that

1:14:52

it actually feels like

1:14:54

fear. Therefore, I have decided to nominate

1:14:56

in the first plot Edward and Blood.

1:14:58

He does suck it off of his

1:15:01

fingertips, so. Oh my god,

1:15:03

his name is Edward and Mulder

1:15:05

falls like Bella running up the stairs, okay.

1:15:08

Speaking of vampires, I would like to say

1:15:10

inside of the Sexual Attention Awards, just because

1:15:12

we're here, that Latoya Ferguson didn't know she

1:15:15

was disappointed that this title of this episode

1:15:17

was Blood because there were no

1:15:19

vampires to be seen and the title does not need

1:15:21

to be Blood, so we should have saved that for

1:15:23

vampires. Yes, agree. In

1:15:28

slot number two, it's none of

1:15:30

our business and yet we wish them unmitigated

1:15:34

bliss together. It's Mulder

1:15:36

and the latest issue of Celebrity Skin. If

1:15:40

you could just wrap up this damn case, you could

1:15:42

get back home and open it, you know, to his

1:15:44

magazine. In slot

1:15:46

number three, you know, sometimes

1:15:50

when two people like each

1:15:52

other, the way that they show

1:15:54

each other is by eroshing each other

1:15:56

and thus I direct your attention in

1:15:58

the end. this episode to

1:16:01

the mothership, in particular, Scully.

1:16:03

Look at her roast.

1:16:08

And in slot number four, sometimes

1:16:10

you don't understand an attraction.

1:16:15

Sometimes it sort of like transcends

1:16:19

your cognitive power

1:16:23

or logic and reason. And

1:16:26

it's with that in mind that in the final slot,

1:16:28

I nominate me

1:16:30

and a sheriff who says

1:16:32

all units forthwith. Yeah, that's

1:16:34

fair. You've earned it for yourself,

1:16:37

Jenny. Thank you so

1:16:40

much. If you'd like to cast a vote, I

1:16:42

know this is not maybe the most compelling roundup

1:16:44

of noms crammed

1:16:46

into slots, but if you'd like

1:16:48

to vote anyway. If

1:16:51

you don't want us at our forthwith, you can have

1:16:53

us at our mothership, you

1:16:55

know? Well

1:16:58

said. Please make your

1:17:00

way over to bufferingcast.com/STA where

1:17:02

you will find the sexual

1:17:04

attention award poll. We would

1:17:06

really appreciate your feedback and

1:17:09

look forward to seeing the results.

1:17:11

That's also where you can find all of

1:17:14

the results of the sexual attention awards. Should

1:17:16

you be wondering how your votes tallied

1:17:18

up in the weeks prior? Indeed.

1:17:25

Sexual attention award. All

1:17:30

right, Kristen, who's the smuggest bitch of the episode? I'll

1:17:33

concede. I'll give it to Scully. Scully,

1:17:37

Scully. Congratulations, Scully.

1:17:39

I just, I could not deal with Mulder in

1:17:41

the first scene where the sheriff was like, so

1:17:43

anyway, and then this thing and then that thing

1:17:45

and Mulder is just silent, just, just silent, paying

1:17:48

no mind to this man. But profiling

1:17:50

Let the artist profile. Wow.

1:17:53

But yeah, we'll give it to Scully,

1:17:55

episode three. Okay. Then

1:17:58

our last task before we can. Close

1:18:01

the filing cabinet. It's

1:18:03

for you, Kristen, to take off your

1:18:05

blue light filtering glasses, open

1:18:08

wide your peepers, and-

1:18:13

yikes! It's really happening over

1:18:15

there! And gaze deeply into

1:18:17

the glowing amethyst orb that

1:18:20

is Kristen's crystal ball. She

1:18:30

can see it now. What's

1:18:33

coming down the pike and

1:18:35

shows you get right? Okay,

1:18:41

Kristen. Yeah, I'm here, Jenny. I heard-

1:18:43

my crystal ball told me that you

1:18:46

have some questions for me today. Okay,

1:18:49

yeah. So first I wanted to ask you, we are

1:18:53

famously people

1:18:55

who've invested a lot of time podcasting about

1:18:57

a vampire show. And so

1:19:00

far we've been served at least

1:19:02

two episodes of this new series that

1:19:05

seem like they're gonna be vampire episodes, but

1:19:07

they are not. We've had Eve, which was

1:19:09

just chock full of exsanguination, not a- not

1:19:11

a blooded body to be found. And two

1:19:13

puncture holes. Two puncture

1:19:16

holes. Okay,

1:19:19

and this episode is called

1:19:21

Blood. But there

1:19:23

were no vampires. How

1:19:26

soon do you think we will

1:19:28

see vampires or something like

1:19:31

vampires or something that could be grouped with

1:19:33

them? Something that the show is willing to

1:19:35

say? Vampires? Question mark? About

1:19:37

if we ever see it at all.

1:19:41

Season four or five? I think

1:19:44

that they're gonna run the circles around lots of other

1:19:47

things before they get to vampires. But

1:19:50

they'll get there. They'll get there. There's

1:19:52

too many episodes for them to not

1:19:54

get there. So totally, totally. They'll

1:19:57

get there. I wonder if there'll

1:19:59

be any episodes- That are like Alex. Mack adjacent

1:20:01

you know, probably in ah as in

1:20:03

so that he has never seen an

1:20:05

episode of of Alex Mack. Could you

1:20:07

help me understand what that means? Like

1:20:10

exposed to some kind of radioactive material

1:20:12

and can now shape. You. Know

1:20:14

shape shift into something.

1:20:17

I just accidentally dings my pencil on my lamp

1:20:19

and I don't have you could hear that at

1:20:21

home. But what I learned is that now. I

1:20:26

can ring a bell, so if there's ever any need for

1:20:28

me to ring a bell on the podcast, I now can

1:20:30

and. Mom for yeah, I think you

1:20:32

know, like Alex Mack was exposed to

1:20:34

some kind of radiation Rate goes on.

1:20:36

I was a little old for Alex Mack, but I'm pretty sure

1:20:38

she could. And then she could turn into

1:20:40

a do and slide underneath doorways i'm

1:20:43

and reality mack herself. And so she

1:20:45

got up to all kinds of highjinks.

1:20:47

For. Harrys and Goose sliding

1:20:50

under. Doorway. His

1:20:52

got a here though. they'll do

1:20:54

something like that. I mean we

1:20:56

know they're gonna ghosts and we know they're

1:20:58

gonna do alien. We know they're gonna do

1:21:01

believe that a button do average you do

1:21:03

aliens a nasty ghost. Okay here here's a

1:21:05

Christian. Is certain. They.

1:21:08

Will do. Goes.

1:21:10

Yeah, what else are you certain about? Like.

1:21:13

And terms of at some attic episodes

1:21:15

will obviously and ghosts we've I've already

1:21:17

said I think vampires and putting vampires

1:21:20

in. Some kind

1:21:22

of radioactive. I mean we've kind of

1:21:24

already had radioactive right? That was the

1:21:26

whole vibe with Fluke Man I'm but

1:21:28

I think human wise I can turn

1:21:30

into a do have some kind are

1:21:33

just like shape shift tombs kind of

1:21:35

is adjacent to that to since he

1:21:37

said like had stretchy thingies and and

1:21:39

a lot yep yep them anything else

1:21:42

from I'm. The sort

1:21:44

of like. Horrors. Fear

1:21:46

or any particular cryptic. The

1:21:48

think we might encounter memories,

1:21:50

In the Jersey Devil. We.

1:21:52

Haven't done anything with big sort of. We haven't done

1:21:54

anything with Big Fight yet. We just heard a lot.

1:21:57

of talk of. Bigfoot.

1:21:59

Ask so. We'll probably touch

1:22:01

on Bigfoot again. And yeah, we'll

1:22:03

do other cryptids. Of course

1:22:05

we will. We'll probably do all the cryptids, Jenny.

1:22:09

Okay, how about this, Kristen? Name every

1:22:11

cryptid that you can think of.

1:22:13

Bigfoot. Okay,

1:22:16

the guy in the water.

1:22:20

Guy in the water. Could you be more

1:22:22

specific? He's just like a guy

1:22:24

in the lake, and he comes up sometimes, and

1:22:26

people wanna see him, but they never do, because

1:22:28

he's a cryptid. He's

1:22:31

a guy, though? No, he's

1:22:33

like a dragon worm-like thing.

1:22:36

Can you be more specific? I don't know. You know

1:22:39

who I'm talking about. It's a guy in the lake.

1:22:41

Hey. Who am I talking about? What

1:22:43

lake? Where? I

1:22:46

don't know. A dragon, a worm. He's

1:22:49

like a slithery dude that like, you

1:22:51

had a bad, you know why I

1:22:53

know him? Slithery dude. My sister drew

1:22:55

you that logo of him in

1:22:58

the spelling out Jenny Owen Youngs.

1:23:00

Yeah. Who is that? Pythagorean Theorem.

1:23:03

Python, Monty Python. What's

1:23:09

his name, Jenny? Pseudonym.

1:23:15

It begins with a P, right? Oh,

1:23:19

Pegasus. Is Pegasus a cryptid? Pegasus

1:23:22

is like a fantasy creature. But

1:23:26

you think we'll see Pegasus? No. I

1:23:28

think you're thinking of the Loch Ness monster. Oh, yeah,

1:23:30

that's what I'm thinking of. Also

1:23:37

known as Monty Python and the

1:23:39

Pythagorean Theorem. Sure. There

1:23:42

must've been some other word in there, too, you

1:23:44

know. Anyway,

1:23:46

those are the only two cryptids I know of. Okay.

1:23:54

Okay, hang on. The

1:23:57

only two cryptids you know of are

1:23:59

Bigfoot. And Monty Python

1:24:01

aka the Loch Ness Monster. And the Jersey

1:24:03

Devil. It's the Jersey Devil of cryptid. And

1:24:05

the Jersey Devil, but that's already been checked

1:24:07

off. You

1:24:10

can't think of another thing. What

1:24:13

is a cryptid? A

1:24:15

creature that we've never seen, but maybe exists. Animals

1:24:18

that cryptozoologists believe may exist somewhere in

1:24:21

the wild, but whose present existence is

1:24:23

disputed or unsubstantiated by science. So yes,

1:24:25

what you said. Great. Pegasus.

1:24:30

Loch Ness Monster. I

1:24:32

mean a unicorn, a unicorn, not Pegasus,

1:24:34

maybe not THE Pegasus, but isn't a

1:24:36

unicorn a cryptid? People don't think that

1:24:38

exists. I mean... You're

1:24:44

talking to me like these people aren't saying

1:24:46

that Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster and

1:24:48

the Jersey Devil exist. Seems just as reasonable.

1:24:50

Yeah, but it's just like, it's like, um...

1:24:53

Okay. What

1:24:57

about, you know, have you ever heard of

1:24:59

Mothman? Oh yeah, I don't know

1:25:01

a lot about him, but I've heard about him. There

1:25:04

is also a differentiation between Bigfoot

1:25:06

Sasquatch and then Yeti slash Abominable

1:25:09

Snowman. Oh, Yeti is the

1:25:11

snow Bigfoot. Got it, got it, got it. Mm-hmm,

1:25:14

mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Um...

1:25:18

Don't forget about the Mongolian Death Worm.

1:25:21

Oh yeah, we talked about him. Honestly

1:25:25

Jenny, right now you're not making a compelling case that

1:25:27

I've forgotten anything major. Okay,

1:25:30

weirdly, a megalodon is listed on

1:25:32

the cryptid page, but that's not...

1:25:35

Isn't that... For debate? Just

1:25:37

a dinosaur? It's a

1:25:39

friggin shark. A shark, right, right, right. Anyway,

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