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The. Matter how angry somebody is, no matter how sad
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they are. Know how depressed known. I. Won't
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waiver. And. Therefore, they can
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rely on me. Because. How
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they feel isn't going to change how I show
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up. And. I think that was like the
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best gift he could have given me, cause to this day
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he does that. Are
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you free and unshakable business across one hundred
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million dollars? Net worth by the eat at
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a noun very Apple's is.com into a billion
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Our portfolio in this part. As I said,
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the lessons I've learned is james. Big businesses
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that help your portfolio companies do this a
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buck a lot. And let's. Build. A
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look to store where you grew up and
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especially for for British audience. Like how would
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you describe why you brought you grew up
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like. I. United. I didn't know what
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Vegas was like until I was like twenty years older than
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the way would look like. So yeah, what was your childhood
0:54
like? Where did you go? So. I grew
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up in Portage, Michigan. Which
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is like a small Midwestern town.
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Mid. West Different from the west coast
1:03
in terms of. My. People are
1:05
very friendly. You all know all your
1:08
neighbors. I'm typically if you grow up
1:10
there you end up staying there, getting
1:12
a job. They're starting a family there.
1:15
I'm. Not as many people I
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think. Are. Venturing out
1:19
and leaving and going to the coasts. Am.
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Et. Seventy. A different kind of. Mentality.
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It's slow. It's much slower
1:27
than where I live now and so everything
1:29
is. Slower. Paced. More.
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Family focused. Obviously.
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Also, safer, I'm. Less.
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To do. And.
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You. Know as funny as the I just remember my
1:41
entire life. When. I lived
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there. Always. Thinking and can't
1:46
wait to leave. Because.
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It felt too slow for me. And.
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Out. Of all the. Amazing places that you could
1:54
live. In the country? Not even just
1:56
that. The world I was like why here. And.
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I think. Felt bad for very long time which is why
2:01
did end up leaving. The thing that gets
2:03
me like with your story is and this is
2:06
what let's try get across the viewers. His.
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Dues think you were born. Of.
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Do you think you are born
2:13
with this sort of ambition to
2:15
grow outside as the situation? U
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N. Or. Was it something that happened
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with in your childhood? that legit that place.
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I don't think that I was born. With.
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Any think ah I mean I would tell
2:26
you my dad would say differently. On
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by. I actually think it was.
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When. My parents ended up. Getting.
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Divorced when I was I think I
2:35
was between eight and nine. And.
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When they separated and. My.
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Dad ended up moving out, getting an
2:42
apartment somewhere my sister ended up leaving
2:44
going to college she was much older
2:46
than me and then I was stuff
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alone My mom in the house when
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they had last. And the my
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mother very quickly. Because. Of the
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divorce and then very quickly after their divorce
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arm her dad passed away. And
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Cetus went into like. A
3:02
very dark place and she turned to
3:04
drugs and alcohol. And
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I witness that some day one.
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Like. The like starting to drink
3:11
more than like. Drinking.
3:13
Every day, then like started doing earlier in
3:15
the day and then like until it snowballed
3:17
into like a complete alcoholics. And
3:20
so. I actually
3:22
think that. That. Time.
3:24
In my life and living. With her
3:27
for the. Five. Years
3:29
I did when she did that. Was.
3:32
Probably. The pivotal moment that turned me into
3:34
the person I am today. Because.
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Until then. I. Had been sheltered
3:40
by to really amazing parents who meant well.
3:42
But. I also think as a sheltered. Ah,
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And depend on them and. In.
3:48
The time that I spent living with her
3:50
when she was alcoholic. He or
3:52
she wouldn't come home for days on on end, she
3:54
would come home and be incoherent. She. Would.
3:57
Not talk to me. Ignore me. She'd always be
3:59
with and boy. Print out the time. I
4:01
in now the bars and. I
4:03
had learned take care myself, And.
4:05
At the time it was. Extremely
4:08
hard and I remember just. A
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constant. Perpetual.
4:12
Feeling of stress like in my body.
4:15
Like not being able to get rid
4:17
of the feeling of dislike. Complete anxiety.
4:19
Ah, I'm peas. I was always worried about
4:21
her. As. Always worried as you can be okay
4:23
is he going to end up. Killing. Yourself today
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is he or going and of com home Am I
4:28
gonna be a my own? like when I'm going to
4:30
do ah. But.
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What? I didn't realize was that going
4:35
through that for those five years.
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Taught. Me: how to take care of myself.
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And. Ultimately, that I could rely on myself. Which.
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At the time I don't think I could have known that I would do that
4:46
for me. But now looking back, I
4:48
see it as like that was the moment in
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which. It
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I. Would say I'm. It.
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Was almost. I got. He.
4:58
Gave me the jump start to get to where I am today. Because.
5:01
I'm not sure that I was able to be. The.
5:03
Leader I am if I hadn't learned had a
5:05
lead myself so early on. Could. You
5:08
pinot, so could you pin down. The
5:10
the trait that you had or some the
5:12
decision isn't your thing was ten years old
5:15
or that is tragic story I'm amused. Say
5:17
no more your videos about where you could
5:19
use call him for and and happen on
5:21
multiple occasions viewed he was trying to call
5:23
for and you couldn't get holders a ten
5:25
year old. I'm. Almost. Ten year
5:27
olds I don't think would react in the same way as
5:30
you did. Like is the something you could pin down the
5:32
lead you to be able to do that. Yeah.
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I was sitting in. Our.
5:38
Guest. Room of. When
5:42
he said it was like. I
5:44
was sitting in the guestroom. Of
5:46
our house and I. Have
5:49
a son is dead. And site kept
5:51
calling her phone. I think it was like the
5:53
twentieth time that I called. And.
5:55
Since pick up. As an I remember
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thinking to myself. Why you keep. When.
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She's. Never going to pick up. She's not going to
6:03
answer. And I sat there
6:05
and i rember thinking pulling the for my
6:07
hand I said i'm not falling again and
6:09
on. And. Then I
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just thought to myself this thought pops my head lice and.
6:15
I. Need to make the rest of my life. So.
6:18
Good. That. It makes all of this
6:20
worth it. Because. The pain
6:22
I felt in that moment and for those years.
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Was. So great! And it was also a secret I
6:27
kept. To myself, I didn't tell anybody. Because
6:29
I also still loved her and I didn't want
6:31
to. Get. For in trouble or whatever
6:33
that meant. But
6:36
that was what stuck with me was in that
6:38
moment I thought to myself like you have to
6:40
be so good. That it makes everything
6:42
worth it. And. I think I took
6:44
that on with me in that now when I go through
6:46
anything in life. I just think to myself. Make.
6:49
It worth it. Make the dark moments worth
6:51
it. By. Doing yourself justice and getting to
6:53
the other side and getting through it and not being
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a victim of those dark times. I
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don't know how a kid at that age
7:00
had that thought. But. I'm super grateful
7:03
I did. I remember it crystal clear. I
7:05
remember holding the phone. It was one of
7:07
the phones with a key. huge cord. And
7:09
it was like yellow banana phone basically
7:11
ah, I'm. Amber Just sitting
7:13
there with three I am and thinking that and.
7:16
From that moment on I felt like a sense of.
7:19
Calmness. Because I thought to myself one.
7:23
No longer am I gonna keep
7:25
calling. She's. Gonna leave.
7:27
Who. Knows if she's in a comeback. I need to
7:30
focus on myself. And I need to
7:32
focus on making my life better. And
7:34
then the second thing was. It
7:36
like lit a fire inside of me. To be
7:38
better. Because. I feel like
7:41
in that moment I saw. You
7:43
know she was a great mother to me when
7:45
she was but I saw her turn into this
7:47
person I felt was. So. Unfamiliar to
7:49
me. And. The.
7:52
Only saw I could have to myself was like. I
7:55
will never do this to somebody I never wanted
7:57
us to anybody in my life and make them.
8:00
With way And so I think what I did was
8:02
that it. Propelled. Me to go in
8:04
the complete opposite direction that she was in. And.
8:08
Then I it led me. To. You.
8:10
Know finally getting out of her house. And
8:13
saying you know what? I'm going
8:15
to leave pursuit safe you. If you leave
8:17
I'm I'm gonna die as he leaves like
8:19
I have. Nothing lasts at my life will
8:21
be over. And so it felt like
8:24
you know, in a way a threat like what does
8:26
that mean your life will be over in or she
8:28
wasn't stable. And I said
8:30
to myself. I'm
8:32
not your mother. And. I
8:34
remember the day I was like i'm leaving. And
8:37
I'm not. I'm not coming back. Because.
8:39
At the end of the day. This
8:44
is really hard to say but. I
8:47
said if you die. Because
8:49
of me leaving. Some.
8:51
Me: I've seeker
8:53
myself. And
8:56
that was kind of mentality. A tux. From
8:58
that point out, And
9:01
she didn't end up I think getting better, But.
9:03
I haven't marine and conduct. I'm
9:07
it's wise to deliver. As it
9:09
And Fourteen Fifteen. Wow. Side.
9:11
And the so those of a five
9:13
year time period was us from when
9:16
your parents divorced go through that so
9:18
process so. During. The time in
9:20
between. Ice. I stopped say of house
9:22
I started he okay you've talked to like closer
9:24
friends like I end up saying with them. I
9:27
had friends, parents who knew the situation with my mom and
9:29
I would basically live at their house. I gave and detours.
9:31
I'm one of my best friend's house. They
9:33
would buy groceries for me like it was like I
9:35
basically lived there and I would come home to get
9:37
ill clothes and things like that. But. I
9:40
can check out. I was like I'm just going to
9:42
do me and take care of myself. And.
9:46
Not be around this. And.
9:48
I would come back, you know, every week or so
9:51
to see what was going on and. Usually.
9:53
The houses discussing and I would clean it. And.
9:55
Then I would leave again. But. I just tried not
9:57
to say there because. I didn't feel.
10:00
Faith and I didn't feel like. I.
10:02
Know who she was anymore. It wasn't a mother that I
10:04
grew up with and so I didn't. I
10:07
didn't want to say there because I felt like. I
10:10
created my own family. Within.
10:12
My friends, families, And I think that is the truth
10:14
is like I think. She. Was so absent
10:17
at that point time. I. Felt like I had
10:19
to go. Get. What I
10:21
needed elsewhere. Alcohol. Was
10:23
so destructive a lot I think
10:25
I'm on the of our family
10:27
suffered with. My my father
10:29
was like a really bad alcoholic where he was in
10:31
our lives I didn't really affect us but like I
10:33
remember I the phone call my grandmother one time as
10:36
it with she's the sweetest late I never realized that
10:38
shows up Heisman alcoholic whole life. And.
10:40
And i got a for as a phone call about
10:42
on when to kill myself and or you know or and
10:45
it's i can only imagine like what that would be
10:47
like to be live in around out with a parent
10:49
was be so difficult. Ah, I'm A.
10:51
I'm still like. I wish it was
10:53
easy to pin what the ingredient was.
10:55
The L allowed you to grow up
10:58
in that situation because. So.
11:00
Many people. Sue.
11:02
Tragedy or difficult time than
11:04
traumas. Issue. That they do the one
11:06
of the or the of away you know they either fall victim
11:08
to or they don't become a victim of the com. What's wrong
11:10
for us? I think there was a quo I'm I'm gonna. Mess.
11:13
This up because is this so many moments in
11:15
your life where. He. Was probably hundred
11:18
this and and you this when the
11:20
opposite way and it was like you
11:22
guys like have i'll show you guys wrong
11:24
but it was something he said com.
11:27
A can't find. I'm just gonna butcher it
11:30
so maybe out of butcher it. They're basically
11:32
like. I'm. Gonna work as hard as I
11:34
possibly can. Soda for the future The the passage
11:36
of the past and it's so It's so fall
11:38
behind me that all I can see is the
11:40
suits us. To talk about mentality.
11:43
You know I heard this guy. Said. To
11:45
at one point it's like. Over
11:47
fifty percent of the past that
11:50
we remember is inaccurate. And.
11:52
Once I heard that. The.
11:54
Psych light bulb went off for me because I think I
11:56
was. Probably. Like. Twenty
11:59
Or Twenty One. The time and people are always telling
12:01
me. Scott. Of resolve things with your
12:03
mom, you've gotta figure out these things and like
12:05
I'd been to therapy in a now and talk
12:07
to plenty. Therapist. And my put
12:09
all these things about my mother right? And.
12:13
I. Constantly felt like. He
12:16
would as reopening something. That.
12:18
And would never find a resolution to. You.
12:21
Know it's like it was. She.
12:23
Became an alcoholic. She didn't mean for it to make
12:25
my life force, but it did. By consequence. Do.
12:28
I think she's a bad person. Know what? Do I
12:30
think that See you know created bad conditions
12:32
for me? Yes and. I
12:35
just. Realized. That.
12:38
The more that I focus on working on my
12:40
future. The. Less the past have
12:42
power over me and the less relevant it was
12:44
the my life. And especially
12:46
knowing that what fifty percent of
12:48
it could be made up. Of
12:51
my what is. It. Was better. What
12:53
if it was worse? I don't know. You
12:55
know this is my memory, my recollection but.
12:57
I. Don't want to live my life. Beholden,
13:00
To a past that might not even be
13:02
true. It's just my perspective. That's.
13:04
And he was the main thought. It's like why would I
13:06
let that control. Me when. You
13:08
know our minds. To very powerful things like i
13:10
don't know in what direction it with amplified.
13:13
You know, But right now. Allowing me
13:15
to think that things were worse than they were. Also,
13:17
I can help me make. A better future. It's.
13:20
Not. And. So I just sent heads
13:22
down and like I'm integrates such a compelling
13:24
life for myself that I don't even think
13:26
about the past. And. That's worked
13:29
for me for the last. Thirteen. Years.
13:31
Normally. I'd stick to sort of the document just
13:34
above the big one this because it's really close to
13:36
me. So. Around
13:38
seven years ago just before one of them
13:40
have a store or like the whole you
13:42
tube stuff Muslim passed away and my way
13:44
of dealing with it was to do this
13:47
or not you know I I had down
13:49
was obsessed. still on but was obsessed by
13:51
would say two years ago. There.
13:53
Was a point where everyone around me was telling me
13:55
how you know it wasn't great for me and it's
13:57
going to therapy or this kind of. So I did.
14:00
And it felt like I was just sure in and out
14:02
of for a good year. It surely not listing of bringing
14:04
all this like. This. Stuff but now and
14:06
butt heads down again. you know, outposts in
14:08
forward and discussion on and I feel bad.
14:10
another. That. The opinion of
14:12
people with that kind of mentality is that
14:15
is just wrong is not the right way
14:17
to do it is. I'd love
14:19
to hear more on it. I mean there's a lot that
14:21
we go into their which is like it's also like. You.
14:24
Know there's great waitresses and there's
14:26
awful waitresses. Thera Great therapist. They're
14:28
awful therapists. How does the
14:30
person in the room know to judge? Often times they
14:32
don't And so I think a lot of people fall
14:34
prey to people that. Treat. Dependency on
14:37
them. You know I actually think in studying
14:39
what I had which isn't setting like some
14:41
of the best know. Psychiatrists,
14:43
And therapist from hundred years ago
14:46
on most simply. Someone takes six eight
14:48
weeks. And I think that we created a
14:50
culture in which people are dependent on therapy so that they
14:52
can see pulling back in the hit recurring revenue of. So
14:54
I look at it more as like that's great. This is fun
14:56
for a therapist says that that a the patient probably not. Also.
15:00
Through a lot of the things that I studied,
15:02
I just realized. There. Is also cell
15:04
therapy which is that you can surprise yourself.
15:06
Now. That. The Who has studied
15:09
the Most Sense of Pride and Albert Ellis I've read
15:11
like all of his books, Arm.
15:14
But. I think that. What? I
15:16
realize is that you can change how
15:18
you behave. Despite. Whatever.
15:21
Happens. You. And so most people
15:23
say. Let. Me sigur out
15:26
why this happened like. Why?
15:28
Are you upset about your son? Of course,
15:30
just. of what the hell you know what
15:32
I mean like of course an upset them a
15:34
little have like that's normal and okay to be
15:36
banned said. Is. There
15:38
anything that can be done about it. Like.
15:41
Know and then I think that
15:44
people tend to demonize. Maybe the
15:46
way that me feel. Afterwards and see
15:48
that there must be something wrong with you for
15:50
feeling depressed. That's
15:52
baffling to me that people would think
15:54
that there's anything. Wrong with feeling
15:56
depressed or anxious or. You
15:59
know, like you have something. Wrong with you because
16:01
I think when we feel like the truth
16:03
deaths of negative human. Emotions We do wonder
16:05
if there's something wrong with us. But.
16:07
That's just life and I think that we live
16:09
in a society where people label it as. There's
16:11
something wrong with you. And. I think I
16:14
actually sell Pray to It for a few years. Where.
16:16
Therapists are telling me there's something wrong with me. And
16:19
I you know after that I kind of to the
16:21
setback. I was like. I
16:24
think something's wrong with you. Because. You're
16:26
labeling it. You. Know and. I'm
16:28
doing all these things to make my life better. and. You
16:30
keep telling you why it's shouldn't be and
16:33
why it's okay to feel this way and
16:35
keep reopening these wounds. And. I
16:37
just noticed it wasn't helping. But what
16:39
did help? every time. With that I focus on
16:41
the future. And I changed my
16:43
behavior and I didn't allow anything that's ever
16:45
happened to me in the past to be
16:47
a reason why. Behave a certain way today. You
16:50
know I could easily say oh, I don't get close.
16:52
To people, I've got walls up because my
16:54
mother was an alcoholic and so I'm a
16:56
little colder. What? I'm
16:59
I'm fully functioning thirty one year
17:01
old adult. I can decide to
17:03
act in. A more productive way. My
17:05
relationships. Social. What happened
17:07
When. I was fourteen should affect when it happens
17:09
when I'm thirty one. But. What
17:11
happens is that an event occurs and then
17:13
oftentimes to deal with that event we take.
17:15
On unproductive behaviors. And it
17:17
we don't stop. and they go on for ten
17:20
or fifteen years. And. Then we say all.
17:22
In order to change this unproductive behavior, I should
17:24
figure out why this thing happened to me. And
17:27
put. Reason behind it. And I've just
17:29
found that. What if I just
17:31
changed? The unproductive behavior. And.
17:33
It didn't matter why I was do it but I changed
17:35
it anyways. And. So I think that's
17:37
the kind of. Approach the I've
17:39
taken to things as I look at a very much
17:41
like. I am not
17:44
in control always of we'll choose the thoughts
17:46
and feelings who have. Some. Days like.
17:48
We. Can choose to focus on things but can I
17:50
choose it? pops into my head. Know. I
17:53
can observe it and try not to focus on it. But.
17:55
What I can do is that despite what I think
17:57
and despite what I feel, I can change my behavior.
18:00
And. That has been like the one thing that
18:02
has brought me release and everything because I
18:04
can feel as. Bad as I want. I
18:07
don't have to accept what. And. I think
18:09
that I've gotten a lot of released from that, but. I
18:11
don't know. For me, it felt very. Unproductive talking about all
18:14
the things because I think that a lot I'm
18:16
also are predicated on. I.
18:18
Think that. Imagine this right?
18:21
Somebody. Dies. And you live
18:23
in. One. Of the
18:25
in a western or Eastern Indian country
18:27
is right. They so that
18:29
death. And they're happy and
18:31
their overjoyed that those people are dead.
18:34
And then they move on and go on with their lives. Here.
18:37
We're told it's a bad thing and we should be sad
18:40
and therefore people grieve. For months Years,
18:42
Decades. And so when
18:44
I hear that, I think for myself, It's.
18:47
All in a way. Expectations,
18:50
societal norms, and almost the
18:52
placebo effect. He know.
18:54
I remember when I broke up with a
18:56
boyfriend and then I moved across the United
18:58
States to California. And. A
19:00
therapist told me. She was probably
19:02
the only good therapist for brat. Ah, I'm
19:04
I says it's in I kicked over Uma.
19:06
Just so sad. She's. Like
19:08
whoa, how long the been I said two months?
19:11
How long way to get their fourteen months. She
19:13
said why is so sad. And. Of support. I.
19:16
Heard tix like half the time is enough for me to get over
19:18
and. She. Said I think that. Layla.
19:21
And. In the moment. I. Was
19:23
stunned that a therapist would say that's. And
19:26
I was if we meet. To lick it takes for
19:28
a prolonged side of sick. Start. Living
19:30
your life again. And
19:33
that frame I've applied to pretty much
19:35
everything. Because. I
19:37
have just found that continuing to think about
19:39
things. That don't make our lives better.
19:43
Just ten, Not Albus. Definitely! I
19:45
heard you say that as well about
19:47
the The Axe and say in the
19:50
that. He. Just decided I
19:52
loved up. As a if it does
19:54
to the same for me like does exactly was whole
19:56
lot like I. Have is I'm sad like
19:58
than and know is is ten. Well like I
20:00
feel sad I feel devastated by don't need to be
20:02
there forever like I don't need to wallow in that
20:05
and let you know affect my life massively. Bay was
20:07
true like a loss our up as would tell me
20:09
the you know you need to explore this hims explore
20:11
your feelings or emotions and. You. Know, I
20:13
think. The they try as if there is
20:16
like you said behavior. They try and fix what
20:18
that is When. The
20:20
the inciting saying this thing, the insight of
20:22
the behavior you since you don't it doesn't
20:24
need to be attached to anymore. And.
20:28
The. I mean, I think it was the conversation
20:30
Holy Sybil you I see no so many
20:32
like know gets in there again. I'd love
20:34
to go over them. Not one was a
20:36
huge want to me does another one. Again
20:40
like I though I do want to boot cities
20:42
but this this was the the I read. I
20:45
really like this one and it was. It
20:48
was a based on anxiety and fum
20:50
if you have anxiety like. I.
20:52
Want to talk specifically about when you settle
20:55
a stage where liked a just go away
20:57
from not like. You. Said: You don't
20:59
have to feel great when you step into
21:01
a boardroom, oh, onstage, or whatever situation is,
21:03
you don't have to feel great. You can
21:05
accept that. And once you've accepted the, it
21:07
makes it easier. It is not to feel
21:09
perfect the whole time and then you kind
21:11
of work your way for it one step
21:13
at a time afterwards. That mentality
21:16
I think is another thing that stopped
21:18
not having that stops people from doing
21:20
in the first place. Taken
21:22
those steps. I think I sound
21:24
for me that. The.
21:27
More that I try to get rid of the ceiling, the
21:29
more I feel it. If
21:32
I'm feeling frustrated, Or
21:34
I'm feeling angry or in Philly excess. And.
21:36
Then I think Cleese until the Sleigh. I
21:38
don't want to see like this. Let me go do something to do Not
21:40
feel like this. Actually create more
21:43
of it. Because.
21:45
I think I'm just guessing it's like
21:47
I'm telling myself it's not okay and
21:49
therefore now I'm stressed about feeling stressed.
21:52
I'm. Not to stress. I know stress. I'm feeling
21:54
stressed. And so for me,
21:57
I've just found that. Was worked
21:59
best. Have been. I.
22:02
Accept. That I'm gonna feel
22:04
awful. And. I can get really
22:06
good at feeling awful. In fact
22:08
I think the I had master feeling awful and
22:10
that's what people don't get. Their like
22:12
how do you do all the things I'm like I'm
22:14
really great. Doing
22:17
anything feeling awful, Like I can speak
22:19
on states while I so awful, I can lead a
22:21
meeting while I so awful I can do a presentation.
22:23
Was so awful. Out and run a book was all
22:25
I feel awful. I can do. all these. Things While
22:27
I feel awful and I think that most
22:30
people when they feel awful, act awful. They
22:32
stay in bed. The app depressed They
22:34
act how they feel. And.
22:36
What I've found is that at compounds
22:38
the ceiling of bad. Weather. It's
22:40
stress, anxiety, or awfulness greece it.
22:42
except her. You. Feel knew that way
22:45
because you behave that way. For.
22:47
Me: What I've found is that one. Eventually.
22:50
I will start to feel less awful. If. I stop
22:52
thinking about it and I start doing the thing. right?
22:55
Because I may be more focused on what I'm doing, them
22:57
I'm feeling. And then seconds
22:59
about is. If. I
23:01
can do something. Was feeling awful. How
23:03
easy is it to do it when
23:05
I see how could how much more
23:07
skilled will I be at that site?
23:10
And so that I look at it now way which is
23:12
like. I. I seek
23:14
out to do things in imperfect conditions
23:16
because then when there are perfect conditions,
23:18
I have an unfair advantage. I
23:21
don't feel awful to that. I got a full
23:23
night's sleep. I'm. Prepared. Amazing.
23:25
This is gonna be of the kick walk. You. Know
23:27
because I'm used to being up all night the
23:29
night before, being stressed, not being prepared to something
23:32
with last minute and doing it anyway. And.
23:34
So does it feel that in the
23:36
moment? No, but it creates. A sense
23:39
of confidence. That then turns
23:41
into. A feeling of. Trust
23:44
with myself. And that
23:46
is something that. Is worth it.
23:48
So much more to me than feeling that every day. Because.
23:52
Will be hard whether you want to or not and
23:54
you never know what to expect. Things can just come
23:56
out of nowhere and all the sudden it's just like.
23:59
This. Is what it is. They were going to really hard see them. And.
24:02
I don't ever want to go into season like that and
24:04
my life feeling like. Sonos. I've got
24:06
my that. Can. I do this. I
24:08
want to know like. There. Is insurmountable
24:11
evidence that I can do this?
24:13
Do you enjoy performing in the
24:16
chaos more than performing in like
24:18
a nice situation? Enjoy!
24:20
Know find useful Yes. I
24:23
think it is more useful than performing when
24:25
things are going well. So. You
24:28
don't even get off on you know it
24:30
does. Been mayhem. After the
24:32
first. Stop. I'll
24:34
think that. It's. Still
24:37
hard. To. Do things and you
24:39
feel awful. But I know I'm like if you just take
24:41
the first step. And just commit to this.
24:44
It. Will feel easier. For. The
24:46
second step. And. So to say
24:48
that ice like. School. I'm
24:51
hungry for and look forward to it like. Yes,
24:54
And no, like. Axel like often wish I
24:56
could just am not have to do that. But
24:58
then the other voice inside of me is like.
25:00
This. Is what makes you who you are. This is
25:03
why you're going to be better in other situations. This
25:05
is gonna make you a stronger person. You have more
25:07
trusting yourself after this. And then let me see
25:09
Excited! Because. I think. Again,
25:14
Sorry you make a bad situation worth it. You
25:17
figure out what good can come from it and I think. That.
25:21
Is why I look forward to seeing. How
25:23
in months or in years nice showing
25:25
up in those situations will apply to
25:27
future situations that I didn't even know
25:29
where to come. I
25:36
just want to keep up with break to think all
25:38
of you for listening to the south of our if
25:40
you in jail your little too I be so. Great
25:43
that if you did consider leaving me with you
25:45
or even serious elite. See think would love to
25:47
go the current. As you can see I don't run
25:49
out of here for the only way the show growth
25:51
as if we can continue to make often. Content and
25:53
the only way I can do that as
25:55
three liking subscribing and reading aren't. Yeah.
26:02
I think been able to form lay say about like
26:04
kind of level with that kind of chaos going off
26:06
them. when it is a little bit calmer you know
26:08
you're gonna kill it. I do want to site dial
26:11
it back and over into the the story just to
26:13
make sure I've got this. Their. I'm.
26:15
The so many interest employees to choose from
26:17
by think. the the early days that
26:19
with a great story around subway I think at
26:21
the i don't know it whether it's been com
26:24
a too much by do I would love to
26:26
hear again. By.
26:28
I also interested in our is it
26:30
is it intertwined with that that story.
26:33
Was there? At that
26:35
point. A belief in your had the
26:37
you gonna be somebody to use going to do so
26:39
and Lisa was. Did it come from anywhere in
26:41
particular. I don't think I
26:44
ever. In my early days.
26:46
Had a belief. Oh
26:48
I'm than a be somebody. Who.
26:51
Whatever. That means but I think
26:53
that. The. Mentality I had
26:55
was. Don't. Stop until you are.
26:59
Do. I believe that I can get there. At
27:01
that time now. But. Did I
27:03
believe I could work harder than anybody? Yes,
27:06
I believe that and any work hard to money by
27:08
is relative but I think. I.
27:10
Knew that I can put in the work. To.
27:12
At least have a chance at it. On
27:15
and I think that was the one thing that. Yeah.
27:18
I think I got that for my dad in he. Was an immigrant.
27:20
he came from Iran. And. I've
27:22
watched him my entire life. And
27:25
he has tireless work ethic. And.
27:28
He always said like you don't have to be the smartest,
27:30
you don't have to be the best, but like you can
27:32
work harder than everybody. And he's like that
27:34
safe house I've always taken. And my
27:36
dad is a fantastic person but I believe
27:39
and because I think he does out work
27:41
everybody just because he cares. And. That
27:43
part of who he is. And so I think. Seeing.
27:45
That. I think was a really great
27:47
example for me. Because. Early.
27:50
On as I got out of the house
27:52
with my mother, Thousand. And
27:55
holidays which was just like work on
27:57
yourself, work on being better. And
27:59
that's when I. My first off. And
28:01
I I got my job. is that subway
28:03
which I could walk to from my house.
28:06
For my dad's house, I moved out with them. And.
28:09
At that point I think I had like my
28:11
driver's permit. Arms I couldn't actually
28:13
drive a car yet so I knew I could walk and
28:15
I was like well that's good because one I think exercise
28:18
and I go there and back these us trying to get
28:20
in better shape. And. Then to I can
28:22
have it off right? And they were one of the
28:24
only places that would take somebody that was not sixteen.
28:26
Yeah, And. So that
28:28
was my first job and. It
28:31
was purely to make money. I
28:33
was just like I need this money. To
28:35
save up to buy things I want. It was just.
28:38
That was it. It wasn't like. Oh
28:41
I'm going to work so hard. All these things. I
28:43
think I'd is except did. The. I need to start
28:45
from the bottom. Because. I remember being embarrassed that
28:47
time he will come in on like a subway sandwich
28:50
artist. I'm making their Subways. And I'm
28:52
a girl. Also, there's more men that
28:54
works there. and it was the Subway
28:56
right next to my competitor high school.
28:58
So. All the football team would come there and
29:00
get Sods are all like you know and so
29:03
it was a little embarrassing and times on. But.
29:06
I think it was really good. For me because. What?
29:08
That Trump taught me to do in the beginning
29:10
was and I think this is a skill but
29:12
how to follow directions? That. Sounds
29:15
silly. But. There's so many people he can
29:17
give directions to and they don't follow them. And
29:19
I think that I learned in that at
29:21
that job. That. That is a
29:23
skill because I saw. All. These other
29:26
people that will lessen their kits fired. Because.
29:28
He didn't make a scene, would certainly be
29:30
they wouldn't do the opening of the clothing
29:32
correctly like simple things. But. They
29:35
are skills nonetheless. And. And
29:37
people that I started there because I think.
29:40
It. Was humbling. It wasn't glamorous and none
29:43
of my first jobs were. On.
29:45
But they taught me things that. In
29:47
the moment I didn't realize were important and I look back
29:50
on now and I can pinpoint. Everything again from
29:52
each one. The eyes
29:54
of is a crowbar. Steve Jobs or don't
29:56
like are not woods a word bird. The
29:59
dots will commence. Looking. Back my
30:01
way and it does it. You don't know,
30:03
go forward, but I think we we've had
30:05
it with Mulligan Rivers and. And all
30:07
the jobs we worked like labor labor in jobs
30:09
and least I stuff and the so many different
30:11
things and I think the biggest one is holding
30:13
work ethic for as was i was a huge
30:15
thing like. I'm going to load more Brits
30:17
and able to on site. That's the why I'm gonna do
30:19
because that's what I do like and there was an addict
30:21
another reason I think get paid more for it but it
30:23
just felt like that was the thing. The.
30:26
Ah, how valuable his. Work.
30:29
Ethic and how far can it take you. I.
30:31
Think that in the beginning. Is probably
30:33
one of the most valuable skills you can have.
30:36
Because. When. You're just getting
30:38
started. Often. Times. It's
30:41
not that you. Lack one skill or even
30:43
to. But. You might lack three
30:45
or four or five skills. And. The
30:48
only thing in my opinion they can
30:50
get you past that wall is having
30:52
the tenacity and having the work ethic.
30:55
To. Be able to do all the same time. Because.
30:58
Even when you take on new job. Seen.
31:00
Take on a new business. Whatever. it isn't life.
31:02
Usually we have a learning curve and when I
31:04
think a lot of people miss is that it's
31:06
a learning curve on multiple skills at the same
31:09
time and that's something. Feel really hard. Why do
31:11
most people fail at building. A business because
31:13
it's like ten skills at the same time
31:15
and most. People can work on to but
31:17
they can't work on upset. And
31:19
I think that. That
31:22
is why I believe work ethic was such
31:24
an imperative part of my dirty. Because. I
31:27
think in realizing for example, when I
31:29
was losing weight. The I lost
31:31
some some hundred pounds and I was
31:33
nineteen twenty. And that
31:35
process was. It's not just that your
31:38
starting to work out. But. You're
31:40
also learning how to cook food. You're also
31:42
learning to measure food. You're also learning to.
31:44
In you know not either party like those
31:47
are all skills you know and prior to
31:49
this I was in fitness and nutrition. Second
31:51
tell all those things are still not taking
31:53
food when people ask not facing, put on
31:55
your plate skill county or towers a skill
31:58
knowing that their salaries and soda skill. These.
32:00
Are all I can. Sounds crazy, but they really aren't.
32:02
Remembering to weigh yourself everyday. The skill: Measuring yourself A
32:04
tape of the skill. They're. All skills and
32:07
so. I. Actually, think that that. Translated a
32:09
lot when we came. To business because
32:11
it felt like this insurmountable
32:13
task. I'm that was very
32:15
hard and it was a very steep learning
32:17
curve. But. Once you get over the
32:19
hump, It's. Feals.
32:22
Inevitable. That that the outcome is going
32:24
to happen because. It. Starts to snowball
32:27
and I think physicists the same way. But.
32:29
A lot of people kick get past i
32:31
think the first year or two years of
32:33
the learning curve. They. Just Quit. If
32:35
he isn't working for me, He. I've been working my
32:37
ass off for year. Though. Another
32:39
year. You know, I think that
32:42
a lot of people realize. That.
32:44
Their accumulating. Maybe in that first year
32:46
they've accumulated to skills. They need
32:48
to more to be able to get what they want. And.
32:51
They just they just aren't willing to wait it out
32:53
and so then they don't try something else or they
32:55
don't work on something else. But but they don't realize
32:57
that they just what they accept work on is expanding.
32:59
Their capacity for work more than anything. I'm
33:03
gonna be comebacks by the end for
33:05
the the business. This is A I
33:07
think we have just. Use
33:09
work ethic to get to where we are and if
33:11
I know this, lila you on this. In.
33:13
Same level with teaching sire level people but
33:15
I yeah I think about that start such
33:17
a new you guys have to do that.
33:19
The store like you had to go from
33:21
work ethic to structure and Ortiz authentic Edmunds
33:23
Lowest Yeah it went along with easier and
33:25
so yeah. I'd love to talk about the
33:27
one thing that comes to I am I
33:29
from Japan. Weight loss journey. One.
33:32
Time is a moat. One of the most embarrassing
33:34
those two to kind of stories Obvious to me
33:36
a very similar time for Milan but polymer away
33:38
after my son died and. Ah, Are
33:40
unhealthy habits. I was that over
33:42
hundred pounds, overweight and. I
33:45
was walking on the streets and I had a
33:47
bull like have a carrier bag of fries like
33:49
him is his good tips in the Uk and
33:51
I'd I'd smoke them. Was. Walking
33:53
home like a fat person wouldn't as there
33:55
are so a screen that the call you
33:57
fat bastard to me and I was I
33:59
was begun. At a time as hour and. A.
34:02
I was really like taken a and and I
34:04
went home looks animals that live in a cure
34:06
must say right now and then and then that
34:08
doesn't have a story. A week or so after
34:10
were friends moments in with the as of the
34:12
same thing she said. Total happens
34:14
here and. You. Have dislike
34:16
Story this pivotal moment. When
34:20
you supporting. And. A
34:22
similar thing happened. But.
34:25
You took it as a positive and you managed again.
34:27
It was like you guys that are So you guys.
34:30
Did did that last you know that the yeah
34:32
and that was bit from that point on to
34:34
we're about the story and so of what was
34:36
done for you had would have and will sell.
34:39
When. I was when says nineteen?
34:42
I was really overweight. I think
34:45
at that point I'd gained gained
34:47
like anything thing. Is.
34:49
To the point where it's like. A King and
34:51
paint a picture because I completely avoided a camera.
34:53
like there's one is just my head and it's
34:55
pretty bad, but that's it on. And
34:58
I remember. I was at.
35:00
it was the weekend. Or my friend's birthday and
35:02
she says you want to have a party and she's an
35:04
invite A bunch of people from Hopeful. Immediately
35:07
I just felt like a complete. Sense.
35:09
Of anxiety. Wash over me because I thought,
35:11
oh my gosh, I looked so much better
35:14
than. You. Know, but I like
35:16
spiraled into. Gaming. All this week.
35:19
And. I felt like oh gosh, I really hope I don't
35:21
run into anybody. And so.
35:24
The weekend comes and you know it's a
35:26
start of the party. I think for pre
35:28
gaming whatever people are coming and nobody's saying
35:30
anything. They and I'm a psych. the same
35:32
for me. It's elegant else in the room.
35:34
like I haven't seen you since I gained
35:36
eighty three. I I am aware. And.
35:39
nobody was saying a thing. is all going as
35:41
planned like it's a felt fine. And
35:44
then. It. Was probably close
35:46
to the and the night and i went
35:48
to go the bathroom. And I
35:50
walked through the hallway and there was this guy that
35:53
I've been friends since high school. who is there?
35:55
And I saw him. And
35:58
I think oh hey, and he's like hey, And
36:01
he was like. Man. Such.
36:03
A shame. And I was like
36:05
why. And.
36:07
I just think in that moment knew he was going
36:09
to something and he said. Gang,
36:12
He's like. A killer so
36:14
crude. harm. But. It was like. Religious
36:17
a shame because I used to be so hop years
36:19
or so fat. And
36:21
I was like. Wow.
36:25
And. In that moment all I sell
36:28
was. Like. A white Hot
36:30
like your eyes see read. You
36:32
know, like white hot raids. And.
36:35
Funny enough, it was not at him. All.
36:37
It was completely at myself. Because.
36:40
My first thought after he said
36:42
it was, i agree, You're right,
36:45
I would. And
36:47
it was like. It can even be
36:49
mad of the guy can look we're doing singing the facts.
36:51
Like. I'm aware as well. And.
36:54
I left early and I went home. And.
36:57
I just felt. So compelled to
36:59
do something. I remember.on Facebook because
37:02
they suck was cool of the time
37:04
and. And. Me to post thought
37:06
was like I'm done. I'm I'm
37:08
done thirty and you're not going to see mean
37:10
I have to go work on some things like.
37:13
I'm out. In. His ominous
37:15
very vague post. And.
37:18
That was the day. I.
37:20
Woke up the next morning. And
37:22
I threw out. All. The food in
37:24
my house that was. can't. I
37:27
literally. We drove to Planet Fitness. Joined.
37:30
Planet Fitness Gym. And
37:33
then I said. And done drinking. He.
37:35
Was like. In. That instance. I
37:38
made this decision where I thought to myself. It.
37:41
Just felt like. It. Was a
37:43
deviation. From the path I was on, Being.
37:45
That overweight and. In
37:47
that moment I felt like. Am
37:49
I gonna let this get worse? He
37:52
is. Am I going to show up? Two
37:54
years from now. At a party? What woman
37:56
can be four hundred pounds? Because like if we
37:58
continue to go down this path. At
38:00
the rate again we. That's what
38:02
would happen. And. That saw
38:04
when I had that. Where I was like,
38:06
What if I were so often that mears me? What?
38:08
What's stopping me from that. Why?
38:11
Stop Now. You keep gain weight. what's the
38:13
most up. And. I just thought. It.
38:16
Was so unacceptable. The thought to me i was
38:18
like that cannot be my future. Immersive,
38:20
Terrifying that I I felt like I had
38:22
to immediately. Changed in that moment. When.
38:25
That's been something has served me so much throughout
38:27
my life, which is like. There.
38:30
Are times when incremental change makes
38:32
sense? And then there
38:34
are times when they're so much inertia in
38:36
one direction. The. Wrong direction.
38:39
That. I think you need. To. Just completely put
38:41
a stop to it. And. In that
38:43
moment that was one of those I was like we
38:45
need to those snowball in the other direction. And
38:48
sunset of like let me just slowly make life.
38:50
I was like screw it everything goes out the
38:52
window today. New Layla, I am no longer who I
38:54
was. I am now this new person. You eat well,
38:56
you don't hang out with people who drink all the
38:58
time, you don't do drugs all the time, and
39:00
you work out. And
39:03
it was. Really?
39:05
Hard and terrifying because.
39:08
I had not been. Out of shape before. But.
39:10
Going into a gym, being overweight,
39:13
Was. So hard for me. Like walking in
39:15
their feel like ever was staring at me.
39:18
Feel. I was out of shape. You
39:20
know, saying no to all the social things I've
39:22
been going to and drinking and. It
39:24
was really hard for me. I didn't know how to say
39:26
no to people and say like, know what's best for me
39:28
right now. And. Then.
39:31
Basically I ended up to actually moving out of
39:33
the house I was in. Because.
39:35
I lived with ah five six other
39:37
roommates. In a house and I
39:39
felt like. That environment is
39:42
Not. One that is conducive with the future
39:44
that I want. And. I don't think saying
39:46
here is going to help me reach my goals. And
39:49
so I moved out and the last.
39:51
I think year and a half that I was in college I
39:53
lived by myself which is like unheard of. See the with this
39:55
for a woman. Ah, But.
39:58
I just didn't know another way. And
40:00
I public cold turkey stuff. I needed to
40:02
change my environment. You've got these
40:04
moments in your life where you've had
40:07
like these inflection points. We've had big
40:09
changes. I think that you've written before.
40:11
I rock bottom. And. I think. Ways
40:14
as a the story
40:16
of your six arrest.
40:19
What I would love to maybe talk about like
40:21
maybe the first arrest? Like what? What was one
40:23
of those moments like light when that I'm aware
40:25
realize it was get in it was too mature
40:27
was at did did they just so of happen
40:29
as they came along. Know. It's funny
40:32
because. I
40:34
don't think. That the
40:37
first. Even three
40:39
or four times I gotta rest said I didn't think of
40:41
the big deal. And.
40:44
I think that a lot of. People would assume that I would
40:46
have. But. One
40:49
context of like the town I was and lots
40:51
of people got arrested. It. Wasn't
40:53
like. A Novel Things
40:55
the people I hung out with got arrested.
40:58
Wasn't. A normal thing. Some of them had been
41:00
to jail or prison. So. It wasn't weird
41:02
based on that if I hung out with. And
41:05
then I think even southern to that point. I
41:08
had no. I
41:12
think there's the shifts that happens. When
41:14
your in your early twenties. And
41:16
I can't. I don't know anything about the science of it,
41:19
but all I know. Is. That until a
41:21
certain point my life. I. Felt
41:23
invincible. I felt like I could
41:25
do things. I could drive drunk. I
41:27
can drink, I could. At
41:29
all sorts of ways. And. I wouldn't have
41:31
to bear the consequences. The Others: What? And
41:34
I think that. I know that there's. A
41:38
saying in the army where they say it's like the
41:40
best friend syndrome or something to that degree in out
41:42
how to look it up and basically what is is
41:45
that they asked him. Run into the army? Are
41:47
you afraid of dying? And they
41:49
say no, I'm not afraid of dying, but I'm worried
41:51
Jimmy, my best friends is it off. Well.
41:54
Interview all the people come to the army literally
41:56
everyone's worry about their friend enough themselves and what
41:58
are the stats? Some of them. The Gonna Die.
42:01
And. I think that the same went for me at
42:03
that point my life which was like. Oh.
42:05
I understand where this is going but that won't be me.
42:07
I'm not gonna be one of those see I'm not actually
42:09
going and of getting put in jail on the apps A
42:11
and a bracing myself to death. I'm not actually going to
42:14
end up with a the things. And
42:16
it wasn't until. My dad.
42:19
On my sixth arrest. I.
42:21
Woke up at my parents' house and
42:24
my father. Was. Waiting downstairs for
42:26
me. Which. Was like the
42:28
worst, one of the most. Sickening.
42:30
Moment of my life to wake up there were I didn't
42:32
lead. Have a ticket next
42:34
to me of my rest. And
42:36
then have to walk downstairs to confront them.
42:39
Is just like opening the door to walk down
42:41
with like I can still feel hi Sal Memo
42:44
was awful. And. I
42:47
remember thinking where he was going to like calm down
42:49
me. Tell. Me how awful I
42:51
am. he doesn't want talked me again. Whatever.
42:54
And as prepared for that, But
42:56
what? I wasn't prepared for was that
42:59
I walked down. And he was sitting
43:01
on the couch with my stepmother. And.
43:04
He looks at me and he just looks. At.
43:09
Any said. Not
43:11
intervene. Petroleum like I'm trying
43:13
to threaten you unlocked and try and do anything.
43:16
I. Just won't let you know. That. I am
43:18
worried. If you continue to do this, That.
43:21
You're going to kill yourself. And.
43:24
It was like in that moment. The.
43:26
Fact that he thought that that that would happen to
43:28
me. It was just baffling.
43:32
And. That is why it. In
43:35
my mind. That was the saying
43:37
that made me like I can do this anymore,
43:39
I can't drink. My father is like that. the
43:41
nicest person he came in from around he started
43:43
this family. He's only done anything to try make
43:45
my life better. He tried to get me outta
43:47
my mom's house like everywhere he's down from his
43:49
birth and task father and to feel like I
43:51
put him in a situation where he's worried I'm
43:53
going to kill myself. And I respect my
43:55
dad opinion. It was the moment
43:58
that I was like. I. Can do this anymore. Like
44:00
I can't drink like this. I can keep getting arrested Like
44:02
I can see. In
44:04
the weird thing is that I think that. During
44:06
that time I was. I knew
44:08
that wouldn't be the rest of my life. I was like I
44:11
know me. I'm not gonna keep the summer. But
44:13
I think that. You.
44:15
Know lot of people say that some thousand and
44:17
twenty years later they're still say in turn Around
44:20
and I have to. And I
44:22
realize that that's. A really poison? This.
44:24
Thing to think, Is. Like you'd you think
44:26
a one than eventually do it. Why
44:29
isn't eventually to today? Fear and dude eventually
44:31
muzzle do it now. Take away where
44:33
you are now. But as you deliver
44:35
me a story before your dad said.
44:38
You know, given the history
44:40
of your family. Six arrests.
44:42
Like. Work the story ends differently. Live
44:45
without you.com an to say in the
44:47
like I think you're right light out
44:49
to the more audits modest, more. Kick!
44:51
It out the com foreign of down the road and
44:53
yeah it does. Maybe enjoy Your dad
44:55
said it would lead you? Think that could
44:58
have been a reality? I
45:00
admit for me is. If. You
45:02
didn't have a role model model like your father. Like
45:04
what? What did the situation look like? I
45:07
think my dad has been. The.
45:10
Anchor for me. Many. Times in my
45:12
life. After. I.
45:15
Moved out. Of my mom's
45:17
house. I lived in of my dad.
45:19
An. Alice. Very. Angry.
45:23
Like. I think. Very
45:26
angry and I don't think that's like of an
45:28
emotion that I think a lot of. Girls.
45:30
Get sad. But. I
45:32
was angry. And. I.
45:36
Raging at all points and times. At
45:38
everybody. And my dad. Was.
45:41
So. Empathetic, And
45:44
so patient with me. And
45:46
he was eyes. In many ways. I think he was the
45:48
reason I was able to. Stop.
45:50
Acting that way because. It
45:53
was like no matter what, He.
45:56
Didn't. Let me skip any commitments I had. He
45:58
was like you're still gonna do all these. Thing doesn't matter with my
46:01
off your mother doesn't matter how you feel it doesn't matter
46:03
All this like you've got stuck with your commitments. So.
46:06
To that agree I think he a for me a lot.
46:08
At that age and then I think. as
46:11
I got older. You. Know
46:13
when I was spiraling, drinking all the time
46:15
and doing drugs? Having him
46:18
say that again. It's.
46:20
Not like it was something I didn't know. But.
46:23
I think sometimes. Having
46:25
somebody from the outside say it is much
46:27
more powerful, especially those moments where you're convincing
46:29
yourself otherwise. And. I think that that's what my
46:31
dad has done for me so many times my life as he's.
46:34
Kind of pull that he. Is this provided me with
46:36
a mere. At which to
46:38
accurately see myself. And.
46:41
He I don't know if anyone else would have done that
46:43
because I think that what I was doing was not abnormal
46:45
for the people around me. But. It was for
46:48
him. And. I think
46:50
that. That's. Why I'm so grateful
46:52
for him? Because my whole life isn't that.
46:55
He's. Just in the anchor. I think
46:57
this and so much like season so much. There's
46:59
all these things. Even my dad.
47:01
in a one day he won't be here. But.
47:03
While he is, he is. A.
47:05
Complete rock for me and I think. He's.
47:08
Also inspired me to do that for other people.
47:11
Is or particular moment or story that
47:13
would encapsulate or describe your dad to
47:15
to somebody else. Is
47:20
actually going on crime? but I'm. I'm.
47:23
I'm gonna move out of my mom's house and in
47:25
with my dad. I was so anxious
47:28
and I was so. I'm. Scared
47:31
Mad. Whatever. I felt so weird because I
47:33
I will do with him. He was
47:35
l married and then they had her kids mouse and then
47:37
it was just me. And I felt
47:40
so. Out of place. like I felt
47:42
like I left my mom's house. Which wasn't safe
47:44
and such. By at least felt like that was my home
47:46
I grew up any with people I knew. I.
47:48
Knew this my dad. I felt. Someone.
47:51
To unfamiliarity, your hadn't been as close with
47:53
him growing up as I had my mother.
47:56
So. It felt weird at first. And
47:58
he wasn't at that point. I wouldn't
48:00
have considered my dad the rock I do Now It became
48:02
that after I moved in with him. By.
48:05
It. I remember I told him I didn't feel
48:07
like it felt like home. And.
48:09
I would like to lay awake at night feeling like
48:11
this is my house. I feel scared, I feel uncomfortable.
48:14
And I remember. One
48:17
day I came home. And.
48:19
My dad had. Had been
48:22
looking and I think we were at a
48:24
store. I. Saw this furniture, sat
48:26
and it was. You have to think
48:28
I'm fifteen at a girl the time
48:30
and had this beautiful white crested vanity.
48:32
And bed and dresser and it was
48:35
so beautiful and. Timber I was like
48:37
oh my gosh this. Is so pretty. It's so
48:39
beautiful. That. It was so expensive you
48:41
know and i wasn't thinking out of get per
48:43
se with always had hand me downs of we
48:45
never felt like new stuff. And.
48:48
Arab I came home one day. And
48:51
I walked in my room. And.
48:53
It with all the furniture. Lyceum, the. And.
48:57
My dad looked at me and he was like. You
48:59
know you. You deserve everything Like I want you to feel
49:01
comfortable thing I want you to feel safe and at home.
49:05
And. I remember thinking will fall flat. I
49:07
just don't deserve you as a father
49:09
because I was so angry and it's
49:11
so funny because to break down in
49:14
tears. Because. I felt so
49:16
undeserving. Of that furniture, I couldn't even fathom
49:18
that my dad spent that much money on. It. For.
49:20
Me who was acting like a complete. But.
49:23
That's who he is. He's the guy that
49:26
shows up when you're acting like a complete. And.
49:28
He's there to be like, but you know, Like
49:31
this. Isn't who you are and your to get
49:33
back on track and. He's unwavering in
49:35
that instance. Like no matter how
49:38
I'm feeling, my dad doesn't change how he
49:40
shows up. And. I think that
49:42
that's why. Consider him to be Iraq and that's
49:44
what I think that I have been able to emily
49:46
for others which is like no matter how angry somebody
49:48
is, no matter how sad they are, know how depressed,
49:50
Know what. I want waiver. And.
49:53
Therefore, they can rely on me. Because.
49:56
How they feel isn't going to change how I
49:58
show up. And I think. The like.
50:00
The best gift he could have given me cause to the
50:02
state he does that. Are
50:05
so wonderful as well because bought
50:07
your dad did as. Impact
50:09
of thousands thousand people through yourself as
50:11
well and at this is like. Everything
50:14
that we do we genuinely like push this
50:16
message of inspired change and it's through action
50:18
you know is to action and and and
50:20
actually doing something like what your father did
50:22
you know of of course he's gonna be
50:25
there for you. Sit such a wonderful moment
50:27
as wow. That. Him doing that
50:29
in stolen that a new has so have installed
50:31
the same belief system food for you to be
50:33
there for the people and is had such an
50:35
impact and is so it spreads so much I
50:37
think is so important that. Pit.
50:39
People don't realize that you don't have
50:41
to have a million followers on Instagram
50:43
to really impact the world or Chainsaw
50:46
in his life like it happens as
50:48
everybody like everybody's apologizing. So beautiful.
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