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Women tend to give so many
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hints.
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We did not enter the euphoric
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stage. We just dove
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into the choosing to love each other.
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If I find a young lady, nobody's respond
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to me.
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Should I look for another wife? What do
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I do?
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Welcome to Building relationships
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with Dr. Gary Chapman, author of the
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New York Times bestseller The Five Love
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Languages. Today, it's our Dear
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Gary, broadcast for October. Time
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to open the phone lines and hear your questions
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about the love languages, your marriage, singles,
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issues and more.
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I am so excited to hear you present
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your questions to Dr. Chapman today. And
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Gary. Each week we
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teens guide to the five Love languages.
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How to understand yourself and improve all
0:56
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at building relationships.us.
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Gary. There's a new generation coming up
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who want to do that. Improve their relationships
1:05
and you're part of that process. Isn't that
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invigorating to know?
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You know, Chris, I'm very excited about
1:11
this book because it's written directly to
1:13
teenagers. You know, earlier
1:16
I wrote a book for parents of teenagers
1:18
on the five Love languages. But I
1:20
thought, you know, I need to communicate
1:22
to the teenagers themselves if they could
1:24
get this concept down during
1:26
the teenage years. Imagine how that's
1:28
going to influence the rest of their life and
1:30
all of their relationships. So I'm very excited
1:33
about this book, A Teens Guide to the Five
1:35
Love Languages. I thought I say to parents,
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you know, if you're reading the the other book,
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you know, the original book for parents of teenagers
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and your teenagers reading this book, you
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will have some good discussions. So
1:48
yeah, I'm excited about about this book.
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You can find out more about it at the website.
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Building Relationships Us again.
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It's a teens guide to the five love
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languages. Again go to building relationships.us.
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Well, let's begin our conversation
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today with a caller who has a specific
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love language question.
2:10
Hey, Gary. So I was just thinking
2:12
about, um, specifically
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the gifts language.
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So this is kind of my question. Can
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someone who has gifts as their
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primary love language be compatible
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with a partner who is not economically
2:25
able to provide gifts? You
2:28
discuss that gifts don't have to
2:30
be of monetary value. And,
2:32
you know, picking flowers is is a perfect
2:35
example. But the reality is we live in
2:37
a consumer society where everything costs.
2:39
Even if you want to get granular
2:42
the gas to go pick up the flowers in
2:44
your car. Also, the
2:46
flowers example being free
2:48
would naturally and understandably
2:50
get old as the gift
2:52
experience is diminishing marginal returns.
2:55
I'm extremely curious what your response will be.
2:57
Thanks.
2:58
Well, first of all, Chris, I want to say that's an excellent
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question. I really like. I
3:03
really like that question. Yeah. You
3:05
know, and listen, all of us are limited in some
3:07
way financially. Maybe
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I shouldn't say all of us because they're super, super
3:12
millionaires that can just buy whatever they want to
3:14
buy, you know? But the average person
3:16
is on some kind of limited
3:18
income. And we have to decide,
3:21
you know, how to feed the children and the family and
3:23
all of that. And so this can be a
3:25
challenge. But I do want
3:27
to emphasize the fact, and we've
3:29
said this before, it's the thought
3:31
that counts. And I've
3:33
sometimes told this account, I don't know if I've
3:35
told it on the air or not, but a guy who
3:38
told me just the other day, he said, Duck Chapman, I was taking
3:40
a walk. He said my wife's languages were his gifts,
3:42
and I was taking a walk. And I
3:44
saw a bird feather and I picked
3:46
it up and brushed it off. I took it
3:48
home. I said, honey, when I
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was walking today, I found this bird feather
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and I want to give it to you because it reminded
3:55
me that you are the wind
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beneath my wings. And
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she said.
4:00
Oh, that is so sweet.
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I didn't cost him a penny. Now I know you can't
4:05
get bird feathers every week. Okay, I get
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that. Just like you can't give flowers every week.
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But if you are thinking in terms
4:12
of your spouse's love language and it
4:14
happens to be gifts you, you
4:17
will come up with some ideas that you never
4:19
thought of before. And I just say, Ask God.
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You know, if you don't have money to buy something,
4:24
ask God, you know, lead me
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to something. Bring to my mind an idea
4:28
of something that my spouse would really like.
4:30
And the other thing is, Chris, you can also look
4:32
for thrift stores because
4:35
those kind of stores have things much, much cheaper.
4:38
You know, there's some of them used
4:40
to be a dollar store. Now it's a dollar and a quarter.
4:42
But. So
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and you can often find some really, you know, really
4:47
gifts that will speak to the other person. So
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yeah, I just think we have to use our
4:52
creativity if we're limited
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in funds to look for
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things that we think our spouse would appreciate,
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but don't involve a whole lot of money,
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and I think your spouse knows
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your financial situation, at least they
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should. I hope they do. And
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they know you can't go out and buy expensive gifts
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if that's the case. So they're
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not expecting you to do that. In fact, if you went
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out and bought huge gifts on a credit
5:17
card, you'd probably upset them
5:19
because they don't want to go in debt, you know?
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So yeah, I just think we have to seek to be
5:23
creative in terms
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of looking for things that are free, but also looking
5:28
for things that are inexpensive.
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So the answer to the question is, yes,
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you can be compatible with somebody.
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So thank you for that question. And the
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other thing, it seems to me that all of
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the the languages are
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commensurate with your heart
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being turned toward that other person.
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For example, words you
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are thinking about that other person and
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thinking what is going to encourage them today?
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What is the thing that I can say that's
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coming genuinely from your heart? So
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all of that with gifts or with
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words, you're thinking about that other person,
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right?
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Yeah, absolutely, Chris. And,
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you know, there are people that words are hard
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for them and that words are inexpensive,
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of course, but they didn't receive words
6:10
growing up, and it's hard for them to even
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come up with words to say to the other person.
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So yeah, any of these
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can be challenging if you did
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not receive them, you know, growing up, they're
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not natural for you. So it's something
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that has to be learned.
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Yeah. All right. Our next
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question comes as a response to
6:28
a past program. I think it fits right
6:30
in here. It's about the difference between
6:33
men and women.
6:35
Hi, Gary. I was just listening to
6:37
your current program, and
6:39
you were talking about not being able
6:41
to read minds, and I
6:43
wanted to add something to that
6:45
that you could expound on. And that
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is, I think
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women in particular
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tend to give so many hints
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that they think they have told
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their husband. I have.
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I have observed this over.
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And over and over in relationships
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within my family, where
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all of a sudden you find out
7:08
about some terrible problem or even
7:10
a divorce, and you try to talk to them.
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And the person instigating
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the divorce says, I've
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told them. I've told them over and
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over, and maybe they have.
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But then you, you hear more
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and you get the idea that
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the offending spouse or
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the one not getting the hints.
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Maybe they knew that there were some complaints
7:34
in the marriage, but they didn't understand
7:37
they were at Defcon one.
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They didn't understand that.
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All of these little hints that were
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dropped were
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getting them further and further
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toward a divorce
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court. So I just
7:53
wanted to say that I
7:55
agree with your suggestion
7:57
of writing things down for each other,
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because I think
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that's just too often the case. People.
8:05
People give hints, they drop hints,
8:07
they drop comments, and they think
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they've been clear. They think
8:12
that it's, you know, their
8:14
spouse has been given many chances
8:16
and their spouse who either didn't
8:18
catch the hints or didn't
8:20
realize how serious the hints were,
8:23
they feel blindsided. So
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that was long winded, but I
8:28
would love for you guys to talk about that. Thank
8:30
you very much. Bye bye.
8:33
Well, I think this caller makes a good point.
8:35
And that is if you're going to share
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with the other person what makes you feel
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loved, you have to be
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clear and
8:44
make sure they understand it. Because you're
8:46
right. We don't always pick
8:48
up on hints. And you may
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think you're communicating clearly, but
8:53
they may not get it. You know, now
8:55
there's another factor here. And that
8:57
is maybe the other
8:59
person doesn't realize how
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important it is to speak
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the other person's language, even if
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they know what it is, you know,
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they kind of minimize it. Well, you know, I
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just don't think you have to be thinking
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all the time about, you know, what I can do or
9:14
say to communicate love. I mean,
9:16
don't they know that I love them? I mean, I'm
9:18
working and I'm doing, you know, so
9:22
we can have an attitude that diminishes
9:25
the emotional need for love. And
9:27
I think that often happens in a relationship
9:29
as well. They know
9:31
the concept generally, and
9:34
they know that this is their spouses language,
9:36
but in their mind it's not that big a
9:38
deal. And so if you're
9:40
you keep telling me you know
9:42
what your love language is, they might
9:45
get irritated with it. So that's another factor
9:47
in this. But I do think the communication
9:49
factor, which the caller is really focusing
9:52
in on is certainly a factor.
9:55
And that's why, you know, I suggest, for example,
9:57
this little game that's a word game
9:59
in which you say to your spouse, on
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a scale of 0 to 10,
10:04
how full is your love tank? That's
10:07
assuming they're aware of the love tank,
10:09
you know, metaphor. Or you could just say,
10:11
on a scale of 0 to 10, how much love
10:13
do you feel coming from me? And
10:15
if they say anything less than ten, you
10:18
say, well, what could I do to bring it up?
10:21
Or what could I do to help fill the tank?
10:24
And then that particular day, they
10:26
give you something specifically that you could
10:28
do that, that would communicate
10:31
love to them. And if you do that back
10:33
and forth, each of you, you know, every couple
10:35
of weeks, chances are you're
10:37
going to communicate clearly because they're
10:39
asking you on this particular
10:41
day or this particular week, what
10:43
could I do or say that would make you
10:46
feel more loved and not always well,
10:48
not always be their primary love language.
10:51
Because let's face it, it's
10:53
not just our primary love language.
10:56
We're open to hear other languages
10:58
spoken. It says that we have to
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have a significant amount of
11:02
our primary love language. Are these
11:04
others will not mean as much, but when
11:06
we're speaking the primary on a regular basis,
11:09
these others will be meaningful
11:11
as well. So yeah, I
11:13
think just kind of keeps it on the front burner
11:15
to bring this subject up in
11:17
an informal way ever.
11:20
Every couple of weeks.
11:22
Our program is building relationships
11:24
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11:26
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11:29
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11:33
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11:36
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11:38
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11:43
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11:46
A Teens Guide to the Five Love Languages
11:48
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11:50
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11:52
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11:56
So our next caller needs
11:59
some clarification or maybe a little bit
12:01
of advice about her dating relationship.
12:03
That sounds like it's getting pretty serious.
12:07
Hi, Gary, I have a question.
12:09
My boyfriend and I are planning to get married.
12:11
We're not engaged yet, but we're dating
12:14
pretty deeply and we
12:16
have done the five languages. We've
12:18
got the roadmap to success
12:20
that we're currently in. We've
12:23
read the five Love Languages book
12:25
we're currently reading, which things
12:27
I wish I knew before we got married. And
12:29
euphoric stage keeps getting
12:32
brought up repetitively, and
12:34
I feel extremely strong that
12:36
we did not enter the euphoric
12:38
stage, that we just dove
12:41
into the choosing to love each other.
12:43
And I just want to make sure
12:45
that that something
12:47
that others have done as well. I
12:50
know many have done the euphoric stage
12:52
and then dove into the twos
12:54
to love one another, but we're doing it in
12:57
reverse. And so I just want to make
12:59
sure that that's a successful outcome.
13:01
If you could clarify or give me insight on
13:04
this, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
13:06
Well, that's an interesting question. And
13:09
I don't know that we've had that question before, Chris,
13:11
but what she's saying is true.
13:14
There are couples
13:17
are individuals who
13:19
do not have what we typically call
13:22
this in love experience this
13:24
super, super emotional high where
13:27
they just feel like this is the most wonderful person
13:29
in the world, and I just want to be with them the
13:31
rest of my life. Most people do
13:33
have that, but there are people who do
13:35
not. They start dating.
13:37
They they like each other. They have
13:40
a lot of things in common. They
13:42
begin to share life. And in this
13:44
case, read the five love languages,
13:46
which everyone should read wherever you are
13:48
in the journey. And and
13:50
so they are meeting each other's
13:52
need for love because they're speaking each other's
13:55
love language. And now they're reading
13:57
the book on things I wish I'd known
13:59
before we got married, which is
14:01
really good because it deals not only
14:03
with love language, but a lot of other things.
14:06
And so, you
14:08
know, I think that this caller is they're moving
14:10
in the right direction, in a positive direction.
14:12
And I don't think they should be overly concerned
14:15
that they did not go through that euphoric
14:18
stage. It'd be interesting to know
14:20
whether he or
14:23
she did have
14:25
a sense of that in Love's thing.
14:27
Sometimes one person does and the other
14:29
person doesn't, you know. But
14:32
if indeed you you
14:34
have, you work through those other issues
14:38
in preparation for marriage, and
14:40
you work through whatever needs to be worked through.
14:42
And you and you are speaking each other's
14:44
love language, you can have a
14:47
wonderful marriage in a lifelong,
14:49
healthy marriage, even if you did
14:51
not experience what we typically
14:53
call falling in love. And
14:55
the reason I say that is because, as you know,
14:57
that experience is temporary. The
15:01
average lifespan is two years, and
15:03
most people begin to come down pretty
15:05
soon after they get married. And it can
15:07
be very frightening if you're not aware of that.
15:09
So I think the fact that you are aware
15:12
of the reality that most people
15:14
do experience that and you did
15:16
not, and you're you want to make
15:18
sure you know that that's not going to be a
15:20
real detriment in the future.
15:23
I think I think you're on the right track.
15:25
So I wouldn't I wouldn't say,
15:28
well, because you didn't have that you shouldn't get married
15:30
because that kind of love is not
15:32
the kind of love that's going to carry you for the long haul.
15:34
So are you saying you don't have to have the
15:36
tingles in order to get married to
15:39
somebody? If you've never had the tingles for another
15:41
person, that's okay.
15:43
Absolutely. And, Chris, let's face it,
15:45
there are cultures where there
15:47
are arranged marriages, right? The
15:50
parents pick out your spouse and
15:52
you don't even know them. But
15:55
the parents know the issues
15:57
that make for a good marriage.
15:59
And so they're picking out somebody
16:02
that they think is going to be compatible with you.
16:04
And those people go on to have good
16:06
marriages. And in many places,
16:09
you know, as you know, the five
16:11
love languages has been translated in over 50
16:13
languages. So I think 69 languages
16:15
around the world. And so they
16:18
they learn that the concept and they
16:20
are speaking each other's language, even though they
16:22
didn't go through that euphoric stage, they didn't
16:24
even have a chance to do that. So
16:26
yeah, I think you can have a good marriage
16:28
without that.
16:29
The struggle is in this culture, it's all about
16:32
the tingles. It's all about the feeling. It's all
16:34
about love is this. And if I don't feel
16:36
this, then I move on. And that's the.
16:38
And I don't disagree with anything you've just said.
16:40
And I love what the caller has said. What
16:42
I see often happening though, is
16:45
5 to 7 years into a marriage,
16:47
eight however long it takes, sometimes
16:49
it's shorter than that. A person,
16:51
male or female or both,
16:53
come into contact with somebody else and they
16:55
get this euphoric feeling. I get the tingles and
16:58
they think I married the wrong person. I'm going to, you know, this
17:00
is the person that's going to make me happy. So that's
17:02
the struggle. You have to if you're going to commit,
17:04
you need to commit tingles or not, right?
17:07
Yeah, absolutely. We need to see
17:09
marriage as a covenant, a
17:11
covenant with each other, but also
17:13
with God. They were committing
17:16
ourselves in the presence of God
17:18
to seek each other's well-being
17:21
the rest of our lives. That's
17:23
the attitude of love, and
17:25
that's the attitude that will carry you
17:28
through and give you a healthy marriage.
17:30
Emotions come and go, and
17:33
even in a healthy marriage, some days
17:35
you have negative feelings towards your spouse
17:37
because of things they did or did not do.
17:40
That disappointed you? But
17:42
we don't live by emotions, positive or
17:44
negative. We don't deny them.
17:46
You know, we enjoy positive emotions
17:48
and we don't like to feel hurt
17:51
or to feel angry because we feel like we've
17:53
been mistreated. But those emotions
17:55
are responses to what's going on
17:57
in our lives. So we have to recognize
18:00
the key is seeing love as
18:02
an attitude, a way of
18:04
thinking. I want to enrich
18:06
the life of this other person as long as I live,
18:09
and then you look for ways to do it. The
18:11
love language helps you, but there's a lot of other
18:14
issues too, and how you can enrich
18:16
the other person's life. And when you
18:18
each of you have that attitude and
18:20
you're expressing it in your behavior and your words
18:22
to the other person, you're going
18:24
to have a good marriage.
18:25
Yeah.
18:26
Let me give you our number. Because I want to know, is Gary
18:29
right about this? Is there anybody listening who
18:31
said, you know, you're absolutely right or no,
18:33
I disagree because you have a
18:35
tangled story in your
18:37
marriage about before you got married.
18:39
After you got married. I'd love to hear some
18:41
feedback from you. Use the number
18:43
866424 Gary,
18:46
and you may hear some calls
18:48
on a future broadcast. Talk about
18:50
the tingles. 1866424
18:54
Gary. Now here, I'm
18:57
interested in your response to our next caller,
18:59
because it's another single person.
19:01
And I think there are a lot of men and women
19:03
who have this same question. Here we go.
19:06
I've been trying to find a different
19:09
ways introduction service
19:11
towards singles for single
19:13
people, but nobody's respond
19:15
to me. There's nothing going on. Try
19:18
and find a young lady to meet who was
19:20
interested. Would like to meet just to talk,
19:22
be with each other or do activities that we
19:24
like to do. I've had little success
19:26
finding anybody. Um,
19:28
so someone that could help or big
19:31
suggestions that would help. Uh,
19:33
so for that. But like four days of age
19:35
or higher and, uh, attractive
19:37
blonde or brunette hair, it's okay if
19:39
anyone like to call her so. But she doesn't. Okay.
19:42
Uh. That's it. Bye.
19:45
So. So again.
19:46
40 or older, attractive,
19:49
blonde or brunette is fine. This
19:51
is a young man, middle aged man
19:54
who's really looking for companionship
19:56
and and someone to come alongside
19:58
him. But he's having a hard time even in the
20:00
church finding that. What do
20:02
you say?
20:03
Yeah. Well, Chris, maybe we ought to say
20:05
if there's anyone listening in that category.
20:08
If.
20:08
No, I don't think we could do that. I
20:10
don't think we'd better do that.
20:16
Uh, I think there are
20:18
a number of single adults today
20:21
who are in the situation where
20:23
they would really like to get married. They
20:25
are strong Christians, you know, they're seeking to follow
20:28
God and walk with God. They're active in their church,
20:30
and they would really like to be married,
20:33
but they've never encountered
20:35
anyone in the church setting that
20:37
was, you know, that had an interest
20:39
in them even to start dating.
20:41
And apparently he also has
20:43
tried some of the online, you know, dating
20:46
services. And those
20:48
can be helpful. I mean, I run into
20:50
people all the time who say we met online,
20:54
but he apparently he's tried that and
20:57
he hasn't had anyone that's responded to him.
20:59
So and in today's culture,
21:01
Chris, you know, you would think it'd be
21:03
a lot easier today than it was
21:06
before. All the technology stuff.
21:08
Exactly.
21:09
But it's actually
21:11
harder today, I think, because
21:14
we all have these ideas in our mind
21:16
of what it should be like and
21:18
who the person would be like, and all this sort
21:20
of stuff. Like he's even talking about
21:22
the color of hair and, you know,
21:24
God may bring him a red head, you know? I
21:26
mean, let's fade our blonde.
21:30
It's okay to have those ideas,
21:32
but we have to be open to the reality,
21:34
the person that God has for me, maybe
21:36
someone that is not what I have
21:38
envisioned, you know, in my own mind.
21:40
And then the other possibility, Chris, is to remember
21:43
this. It is not God's plan
21:45
for every single person to get married. You
21:47
know, there are people in the New Testament that were not married
21:50
supremely. Jesus. Right.
21:53
But there are others that were not married. And
21:55
throughout history, God
21:58
has used many single adults
22:00
who never married, but who have
22:02
had tremendous impact upon
22:04
the kingdom of God. And so
22:07
don't assume that it's God's plan
22:09
for every single person to get married. But
22:12
it is God's plan for you
22:14
to invest your life in serving God.
22:17
So if you've given your life to Christ,
22:19
you've accepted him as your Savior. Seek
22:22
his direction and how you can
22:24
serve other people. Now
22:26
while you are single. And there
22:28
are plenty of opportunities in every city
22:30
in this country to plug in,
22:32
to ministry, to people.
22:35
And many times it's
22:37
in the context of ministry that
22:39
we meet someone who also has a
22:41
heart for ministry that,
22:44
you know, we find somebody. But
22:46
in the meantime, we're not going to wait till we get married
22:48
to begin investing our lives in helping other
22:50
people. So I would look for opportunities
22:53
to invest your life in helping people
22:55
now while you're single. You
22:58
know, Chris, I've had people say we met
23:00
in Nairobi or
23:02
somewhere we were both on on
23:05
a mission trip, a mission
23:07
group of young people. And in
23:09
that context, we met and
23:11
we saw each other's heart for serving God,
23:13
and we were drawn to each other. So
23:15
I'm not suggesting that everybody should sign up to
23:17
go to Nairobi. I'm just suggesting
23:20
that we we ought, as Christian
23:22
singles, we ought to be investing our
23:24
lives in serving God by serving
23:27
others.
23:27
Yeah, you can hear the heart cry from
23:29
his voice, and I'm sure there are people who listen
23:31
right now or say, that's exactly where
23:34
I am. And I love your answer
23:36
to him. Gary, we
23:38
have a featured resource today at the website.
23:40
It's a teens guide to the five Love
23:43
languages. Go to building relationships.us.
23:46
I want to play this question
23:48
and then we'll get your answer
23:50
here and maybe a little bit in the next
23:53
segment. I think that book,
23:55
A Teens Guide to the Five Love Languages,
23:58
might help in this situation
24:00
as we kind of jump into the deep end of the parenting
24:02
pool for this next question.
24:05
Hi, Gary. How do I respond
24:08
when my almost 17 year old daughter
24:10
criticizes me for my poor parenting
24:12
and then continues and won't stop
24:15
if I say I'm sorry? She replies
24:18
that if I were truly sorry that I would change
24:21
if I walk away. She accuses
24:23
me of not finishing the conversation.
24:26
However, the only way the conversation
24:28
would be successful from her perspective
24:30
is if she gets exactly what she's asking
24:33
for. So I let her continue
24:36
to berate me for a while, until
24:38
I come up with some sort of excuse
24:40
of something that I need to do. Usually
24:43
the topic is that I'm too controlling,
24:45
and she's supposed to turn in her smartphone
24:47
at night and she does not get unlimited
24:50
internet usage or social media.
24:52
Also, we adopted her from
24:54
foster care at age three, and I'm
24:56
not the best at emotional intelligence and
24:59
I'm at a loss. How should I best
25:01
respond to these situations? Thank
25:03
you so much.
25:05
Well, you know, Chris, let's face it, raising
25:08
teenagers is difficult. I
25:11
remember when
25:13
my son was a teenager. One
25:15
time my wife said to me, he's your
25:17
son. I'm going to let you take care of him. He
25:23
was our son. It wasn't just my son.
25:26
But it can be frustrating. There's no question
25:29
about it. Because teens
25:31
are beginning to develop logical
25:34
thought. I did not say they're
25:36
logical. I said they're beginning
25:38
to develop logical
25:41
thinking. And that's why they
25:43
question the things you've told them.
25:45
Because they're now thinking that doesn't make
25:47
sense. You know that's not right. And
25:50
so they're coming back and telling you that. And in
25:52
this case it's specific things,
25:54
guidelines that you have laid down for her
25:56
that she's kind of rebelling against
25:58
because in her mind you're being too strict
26:01
on her. So I think
26:03
we first of all need to hear the teenager,
26:05
no question about it. They need to be heard.
26:08
And then we have to think, because
26:10
there are times in which maybe we do need
26:12
to make some changes and keep this
26:15
in mind. The caller
26:17
said her daughter's 17, now at
26:19
18. Typically they
26:22
finish high school and they go
26:24
off to college, or they join
26:26
the military or something else.
26:29
But if they move out of the house.
26:32
They're going to do what they want to do. That
26:35
is, we can control the time that they
26:37
spend on, on the phones
26:39
and with screens and all of that. We can
26:41
do that. But we
26:43
have to realize in a year they
26:46
leave to go to college. They're going
26:48
to watch as much as they want to. So
26:50
sometimes we need to think, okay,
26:52
maybe I need to begin incrementally
26:55
expanding some of this, you
26:57
know, and if there's something you think really has
26:59
to be continued, fine. But
27:01
maybe there are some things that you need to loosen
27:03
up a bit on. So I think that
27:05
what we did when they were eight, nine, ten,
27:08
11, 12, which they just
27:10
accepted, but in the teenage
27:12
years, they're not likely going
27:14
to just accept them. They're questioning
27:16
those things and feeling like,
27:19
you know, you're being unfair to them.
27:21
And it's painful for a parent because
27:23
I know you're doing what whatever
27:26
rules you have, you have because you think those
27:28
are the best rules for them. But
27:30
I would I would give some thought
27:32
to, you know, whatever the rules are that
27:35
you have and just ask, do
27:37
I need to be thinking in terms of her independence
27:40
and getting her ready to be independent?
27:43
Because once they leave the house and
27:45
go to college or whatever they're
27:47
going to, they're going to have to make decisions on their own.
27:50
And your your decisions aren't going
27:52
to be controlling them at that point. So
27:55
I think helping them learn how to make wise
27:57
decisions. And in this case,
27:59
I think I would ask I would ask the teenager,
28:03
what do you think would be
28:05
what make me a better parent? Or
28:08
what do you think would be
28:11
more fair for you?
28:13
You know, just take seriously what they're
28:15
saying, because if
28:18
we listen to the teenager and
28:20
try to understand what they're saying
28:23
and then put ourselves in their
28:25
shoes, you know, be empathetic
28:27
with them and think about what if you were
28:29
a teenager and your parents were telling
28:31
you this? I think
28:33
listening to them gives them a sense that
28:35
you value their thoughts doesn't
28:38
mean you agree with their thoughts, but you value
28:40
their thoughts, and you want them to share their thoughts
28:42
with you. Because otherwise,
28:44
if they don't feel heard, then
28:46
they stop talking to you about the things
28:48
that that that they're struggling with.
28:51
They'll go talk to somebody else about it
28:53
because they feel like you don't hear them.
28:55
So I think the listening to them, even though it's
28:57
painful to hear sometimes what
28:59
they're saying, and we certainly don't
29:01
have to always agree with it. But
29:03
we can say, you know, I
29:05
think I understand what you're saying. I
29:08
guess if I were your age and I was
29:10
thinking the way you think, I'd probably
29:12
I'd probably think what you're thinking. But
29:15
let me just share my perspective,
29:17
you know, and then you share your perspective
29:19
as a parent. I want what's best for
29:21
you. And that's what I'm trying to do.
29:23
And I'm not saying that all the rules I have are
29:25
right. So maybe some of them
29:27
do need to be changed. And I'd like for us to talk
29:30
about it. So it's dialogue
29:32
rather than monologue. That
29:34
is, it's talking back and forth, discussing
29:36
an issue rather than doing what we
29:38
did when they were younger to just
29:41
say, this is the rule. And if you don't
29:43
follow the rule, here are the consequences.
29:45
And that works well for young children. I mean,
29:47
they need that, but as they
29:49
get to be teenagers, we need to think
29:52
about their own. A road toward
29:54
independence. And I want to
29:56
help them develop, you know, independence.
30:00
They're not they're not independent now, but
30:02
I want to help them get ready so that they'll
30:04
make wise decisions when they're out
30:06
there. And I'm not with them.
30:09
There's also the added
30:11
information about the adoption
30:13
and the.
30:13
Daughter's.
30:14
Background, and it
30:16
sounds like some of the underlying emotional
30:19
issues that might be surfacing
30:21
here in the in the later teen years,
30:24
such that, you know, a counselor
30:27
that can come alongside the mom and
30:29
the daughter or the whole family
30:31
to work through some of these things.
30:34
Do you think that could be helpful?
30:36
It could be very helpful. Chris, you're
30:38
exactly right. And
30:40
I've written a book that it won't be out till
30:42
next year on how the love language
30:44
works with adopted children. Because
30:47
when you adopt a child, even if you adopt
30:49
them young, you don't have that
30:51
emotional bond with them
30:54
that a biological parent has. And
30:56
how do we process that? How do we work through that?
30:59
And there's one other book I would suggest to
31:01
to this mother, and that is a book I wrote called
31:03
things I Wish I'd Known
31:06
Before Our Children Became Teenagers.
31:09
And in that book I talk about what's
31:11
happening in the the teenage brain
31:13
and what's going on in the teenage
31:15
brain, among other
31:17
things. And I think you'd find that book
31:19
to be helpful.
31:21
And if you go to the website building
31:23
relationships.us. You can
31:25
see all of our resources that we have,
31:28
including today's featured resource,
31:30
Teens Guide to the five Love
31:32
Languages. Gary. We get a lot of calls
31:34
about narcissism on the program.
31:37
Here is a wife asking about
31:39
a husband she's struggling to love well.
31:42
Hi, Jerry. I listened
31:44
to your audio book and I really, really loved
31:47
it. It was really enlightening. Some
31:49
of the things that I learned, even about myself
31:51
and my love language, my husband's
31:53
love language, and
31:56
his love language is physical
31:58
touch. And I believe it is also
32:00
words of affirmation. Maybe
32:03
the lesser of the two is the words of affirmation.
32:05
But my question is, does
32:07
this work when you're
32:10
dealing with someone who is
32:12
a narcissist? Because my
32:14
husband is absolutely narcissistic
32:17
and it's difficult for
32:19
me to speak his
32:22
love language when he's
32:25
so narcissistic, but really,
32:27
really appreciated if this
32:29
question could be answered. Thank
32:32
you.
32:33
Well, I can feel the hurt in the pain
32:35
in this call, Chris. And
32:38
I think when someone is married to
32:40
a person who is so
32:42
self-centered and
32:45
so always right and
32:47
who knows everything, you know, those
32:49
are the characteristics of a narcissistic
32:51
person. It's hard.
32:53
It's really hard because
32:57
the physical thing, you know, who wants
32:59
to be physical and be touching somebody
33:01
who has that attitude towards you,
33:04
you know, and they come across as
33:06
though you're always wrong. I'm always right.
33:08
And and you have to you have to really
33:10
try to find something to give them words
33:13
of affirmation, because you're not feeling
33:15
any words of affirmation coming from them.
33:18
So it can be hard.
33:20
I guess I would say a couple of things.
33:23
One, typically, a narcissistic
33:25
person will not go for counseling because
33:28
they think they don't need a counselor. And
33:30
if you suggested, they'll say, well, why don't you go?
33:32
You're the one that's got the problem. I
33:34
would say if they say that, okay,
33:37
I think I will. So
33:40
you go to counseling yourself and
33:42
you tell them, I've got to find
33:44
help. I don't know how long
33:46
I can go on. You know,
33:48
with the way you're treating me, the way you talk
33:50
to me, the way I feel put down
33:52
by you. And so I'm
33:55
going to go. I'm going to go for counseling and
33:57
let that counselor help you learn
34:00
how to respond over
34:02
the long haul here in
34:04
a positive and a positive and healthy way.
34:06
So don't just
34:08
give up. Don't just cave in.
34:10
Don't just let the pain that you feel
34:13
control you. Take
34:15
steps to learn yourself, how you
34:18
can respond differently. And
34:20
there is a place. There is a place
34:22
in a marriage for tough love. So
34:25
I think I would say yes
34:27
in terms of the process, you
34:29
want to do everything you can with the help
34:31
of God, to express love to him,
34:34
not because you're feeling love
34:36
toward your feeling that you love him,
34:39
but because you choose to speak
34:41
his language. You want to communicate to him
34:43
that he's loved. God
34:46
loves him. And so you're just God's
34:48
agent. You're not. You're not trying
34:50
to say, I feel loving toward
34:52
him, but God, I'm married
34:54
to him. So I'd like to be your
34:56
agent, to express your love to
34:58
him. And then you look for things,
35:00
words of affirmation that you can give him,
35:02
and you give him affirming touches.
35:04
And the hardest part here is the
35:07
sexual part of marriage, to be sure, because
35:09
that's extremely difficult when you
35:11
you don't feel loved by him, you put
35:13
down by him. And so at any rate,
35:15
there is a place when you have
35:18
tried to affirm him and tried to be
35:20
God's agent for loving him, and there's
35:22
no response, there is a place
35:25
to say in your own words,
35:27
you know, I don't know how you feel about us,
35:29
but I feel like I have done everything
35:32
I can possibly do to show you
35:34
that I love you, that I care
35:36
about you, that I would like for us
35:38
to have a loving relationship.
35:40
But it seems to me that you really don't care.
35:43
So I've gone for counseling.
35:46
I've done everything I know to do. I'm
35:49
going to move in with my mother. I'm
35:51
not abandoning you. I'm
35:53
perfectly happy to go for counseling with you
35:56
if you want to deal with the problem.
35:58
But in the meantime,
36:00
I love you too much to sit here
36:02
and do nothing because it's
36:04
destroying me. And if you have children,
36:06
you can say it's destroying our children. And
36:09
therefore, this is what I'm going to do. And
36:12
because you have been loving them
36:14
even though they don't deserve love. They're
36:17
going to be thinking, wow, I'm going
36:19
to lose something here. I'm going to
36:21
lose somebody who has loved me when I
36:23
didn't deserve it. And God
36:25
can use that, that tough love
36:27
to touch their hearts. And
36:29
it doesn't mean they'll always turn around or always
36:32
be open for counseling. But sometimes
36:34
it's tough love that brings
36:36
the person to the point where they realize,
36:38
I've got to do something here. So
36:41
those are some of my thoughts. But you know, a counselor
36:43
can help you with other things and help you process
36:45
it on a regular basis.
36:48
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36:50
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36:52
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36:55
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36:57
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36:59
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37:01
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37:04
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37:08
You know.
37:08
I love the fact that this is a safe
37:11
place for you to ask any question
37:13
that you're struggling with. I hope you feel
37:15
that as you listen and as you call
37:17
us. And here's a question I
37:19
don't think we've ever received. This
37:22
caller has gone through some really deep
37:24
trauma with the situation with his wife,
37:27
and he's looking for some advice from
37:29
Dr. Chapman.
37:31
Hi, Gary. I'm calling from
37:33
Canada. I've been listening
37:36
to your program here. I
37:38
want to ask you a question. My
37:40
wife had a cleaner surgery.
37:43
There is neurological surgery. That means
37:45
it was in the brain to remove
37:48
a tumor. I was
37:50
thrown off balance. I was really traumatized
37:53
from that time. I've been
37:56
moving from home to the hospital.
37:58
From hospital to home. I'm alone.
38:00
Been really, really weakened.
38:04
But I got a strength
38:06
within the Word of God and praying. That's
38:08
where I draw my strength from. Now
38:10
she's recovering,
38:13
but paralyzed somehow.
38:15
They are asking me to sign
38:17
a consent to move to a
38:20
long term care facility. Now
38:22
my question is, I need
38:24
a sister. I need someone
38:27
to be with me. I need a wife.
38:30
How do I go about that? Feel
38:32
alone. I'm still. This is up
38:34
to one year, six months and
38:37
been struggling, going up and down, sometimes
38:39
moving like someone who is having mental
38:41
problems, you know, because
38:44
not only am I traumatized
38:46
by what happened, I don't have
38:48
anyone to share the ideas. And
38:50
you know, Painswick, I said,
38:53
God, so should I look
38:55
for another wife? What do I do?
38:58
Thank you.
39:00
Well, Chris, I'm empathetic with this
39:02
caller. You can feel the pain,
39:04
the hurt, the disillusionment, the trauma
39:07
that he's experiencing. Married
39:10
and planning to have a wonderful long
39:12
life together. And then the
39:14
physical problem develops and
39:16
it leaves her paralyzed. And she's
39:19
going to be in a facility now. I
39:22
think anyone can identify
39:24
with the the difficulty of
39:26
dealing with that. However,
39:29
I think we have to come back to
39:31
the heart of what the Bible says about marriage.
39:34
Marriage is a commitment that
39:36
we make to another person. They're
39:39
going to love them and be faithful
39:41
to them. So long
39:44
as we both shall live.
39:46
That's in almost every wedding
39:48
ceremony. It is
39:50
a commitment that we make,
39:53
and with God's help, we
39:55
can keep that commitment even
39:58
in difficult situations like this.
40:01
No one would, just
40:03
by nature, choose to have
40:05
a spouse come down with a problem
40:07
like this that apparently is going to be with
40:09
them the rest of their life. No one would choose
40:11
that. But she didn't
40:13
choose it. It wasn't something
40:16
she chose. You know, we live in a fallen
40:18
world. Our bodies are falling.
40:21
And there are many, many people
40:23
in this world who have
40:26
blind and paralyzed
40:28
and all kinds of other things, and some
40:30
who have dementia and
40:32
can't respond at all in any way
40:35
to you. So I
40:37
think we have to come back to, to say
40:39
to God, you know where I am.
40:42
You know how hard this is, but
40:44
I've made a commitment and I want
40:46
to be faithful to that commitment and to you.
40:49
So give me grace. Give
40:51
me courage, give me energy,
40:54
give me wisdom and how
40:56
I relate to my spouse
40:58
through this journey. It is not
41:00
a time, in my opinion, to be thinking about
41:02
someone else. Paralyzed
41:05
is one thing, but my
41:07
question would be can she talk?
41:10
Is she ability to carry on a conversation
41:13
with you? That would be a huge blessing
41:15
if that's true. Then you can sit
41:18
down and have conversations with her.
41:20
Even if she's paralyzed in other ways,
41:22
there are people who can't talk. I
41:25
have a close friend whose wife
41:27
for ten years could
41:29
not talk, could not say anything,
41:31
could not do anything, simply lie.
41:33
Was lying in the bed and just
41:35
basically staying alive. And
41:38
he would still go there every
41:40
other day and sit down
41:42
and spend a few hours in her presence.
41:44
He would talk to her. She couldn't
41:46
respond. He would sing to her.
41:49
She couldn't respond. But
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he was faithful to his
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commitment that he made to her. And
41:56
we don't know how much she heard or how much
41:58
she took in. But everybody
42:01
I know admires that man
42:03
for his commitment. Now,
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for your own emotional health,
42:08
your own emotional spiritual health,
42:10
I would suggest that you try to find
42:12
a support group in
42:14
a local church, and many churches
42:16
have support groups for people
42:19
that are going through hard times,
42:21
like you're going through, so
42:23
that you can be encouraged
42:25
to hear other people's stories. Others
42:27
can hear your story. You interface
42:30
with people who are going through similar things.
42:32
You can pray for each other. You can encourage
42:35
each other so that you're not alone
42:38
in this process. So
42:40
that would be my suggestion. And
42:43
obviously you indicated this. You're
42:45
drawing on God. He's the one that's
42:47
giving you the power to do this so far.
42:49
And he can continue to
42:51
give you the power to be faithful
42:54
in the midst of a very, very difficult situation.
42:56
But all of us need other people
42:58
in our lives. I don't think
43:00
you need another wife, but you do need
43:03
other people, particularly men
43:05
who are also going through hard
43:07
times. So I would ask your
43:09
pastor, our church leaders, you know, what's
43:11
available for someone like me. Is there
43:13
a group that I could attend? And if they
43:16
don't have a group, check with some of the other churches
43:18
that locally to see what they might have, because
43:20
many churches do have support
43:23
groups that deal with different types of situations.
43:26
I love the reality.
43:28
Of what.
43:29
The question that he's asking,
43:31
because after a year and a half, you know, he's
43:34
just there's something wrong
43:36
with me and I really need that,
43:38
really need this over here. And it's almost
43:40
like he's he's being so
43:43
real with us and
43:45
so real with God, you know?
43:47
God, would you help me this way
43:50
that he's reaching out in that isolated
43:53
sense? So that was the exact same thing that I
43:55
was thinking of. You need relationship,
43:58
not another wife. You need that relationship
44:00
for that encouragement. So
44:02
I think what the time left here, Gary, why
44:04
don't we just go to God and
44:07
pray for this listener and others who
44:09
may be in a similar situation? Could
44:11
you lead us?
44:12
Surely. Father,
44:14
I know that you know this
44:17
man who shared his heart with us.
44:20
I know that you love him and
44:23
know that you're fully aware of his situation.
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And I pray that your spirit
44:28
will touch His spirit. Give
44:31
him the attitude of Christ,
44:34
the mind of Christ. May
44:36
he see himself as your representative
44:39
for making sure that his wife has
44:41
the best care she can get. And
44:43
may he do everything he can to spend
44:46
time with her, and
44:48
grant our father that she would also bring into
44:50
his life other people in
44:52
the family of God who are struggling
44:55
and who can help him, and
44:57
even a counselor father who will listen
45:00
to what he has to say and help him process
45:02
his thoughts and his emotions. Because
45:05
in the midst of this, I know that you've created
45:07
the church as a family. And
45:10
so I pray, father, you would bring
45:12
into his life individuals and
45:14
the counselors who can help him
45:16
process his pain and
45:18
recognize that you want
45:20
to work through him with his
45:22
pain, and you want to minister
45:25
to him through his pain.
45:27
So, father, we commit him to you and
45:29
pray that you would bring people into his life
45:31
who can be your hands and
45:34
your voice to help encourage him.
45:36
In the name of Christ we pray. Amen.
45:39
Amen. And friend.
45:41
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45:43
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