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1:01

corner we have have just the

1:03

natural worthington

1:05

in

1:08

the corner with the guy wearing the hat , jt

1:11

tenacity

1:13

.

1:14

Welcome , ladies and gentlemen . Just got inspired

1:16

like that . Yeah , just listening

1:18

to stuff about um bruce buffer getting

1:21

a punch on in the elevator just commentators

1:23

their it's quite interesting . Oh , wow

1:25

, it's cool that guy can throw hands , can he

1:28

? Yeah ?

1:28

Fuck , he's a weapon .

1:30

I really like Bruce Buffer . He's an icon . Yeah

1:32

, there's more to him than it would seem . I hope no fucking

1:34

sexual allegations get made against him . No

1:37

, the only thing that he's a criminal of is fashion

1:39

, because Because his suits are the worst

1:41

, yeah , but they're unique , they're gaudy

1:43

, they're the most gaudy as fuck , but hey

1:45

, he's a star . Good on him , guys

1:48

. What time of the day do you train

1:50

? What tribe are you ? Are you the

1:52

morning crew ? Are you a lunchtime

1:54

person ? You know lunchtime warrior

1:56

? Or are you a nighttime crusader

1:59

? And we were

2:01

talking about this because Joe was saying you

2:04

know , some people just don't have a choice

2:06

. But I think there is pros and cons

2:08

to different times of the day and

2:10

maybe , given the opportunity , training

2:13

at a different time of the day might give you a different benefit

2:15

. Yeah , I want to go first to our morning

2:17

crew , because I believe that there is

2:19

a few different people in the morning crew and

2:22

typically it's people just trying to get it in before

2:24

work because they have no other time in the morning

2:26

crew and typically it's people just trying to get it in before work because I have no

2:28

other time in the day . Like they're , like my experience has been , it's not

2:30

a lot of parents , it's not hard roles . People

2:33

are coming in . It's almost like morning

2:35

yoga . They're just getting the blood circulating

2:37

. You know there's actually not a lot of learning going

2:39

on . Like people are like half asleep . There's

2:42

there's probably only one person in there who's actually really

2:44

awake and they're not even the instructor . They've

2:47

either punched a bunch of coffee , they've already

2:49

had their ice bath , they ran there . They're

2:52

like fucking , let's go . They're probably

2:54

a white belt and then the rest

2:56

of the crew is just using the class to wake up . And

2:58

it's actually a fucking awesome way to

3:01

start the day . If you can eat the early

3:03

start . The post-morning

3:05

roll is

3:07

a good vibe . You're starting the day on

3:09

such a good vibe , yeah , and I mean , whether

3:11

you're training jiu-jitsu or doing gym stuff in

3:13

the morning , you get that benefit

3:16

. Through the whole day Just flows on All

3:18

those endorphins and that sort

3:20

of pride point where you're like , fuck , yeah , I trained today

3:22

, I got it done , I

3:30

did that little struggle . Yeah , everything's better your relationships , your productivity

3:32

, it all goes higher . There's so many memes about morning people mocking

3:34

non-morning people like it's got . It's got like a bunch

3:36

of . I think it's like taken from a comedy vampire

3:39

series and they're all like wearing cravats

3:41

and wigs and kind of 15th century

3:43

french shit and and there's like four

3:45

of them . They're all like looking real snobby and they're like

3:47

how 6am crew looks at everybody

3:50

else who doesn't train in the morning . But

3:52

the truth is like I am that

3:54

kind of get up early kind of guy . I

3:56

had found that most people I rolled

3:58

with in the morning were maybe

4:00

slightly older and they had jobs . A lot

4:03

of parents , a lot of parents and

4:09

they just there's no 20 year olds don't need to train in the morning . No , I mean

4:11

, if they can , they can . But it was interesting because one of the three sessions they do that day

4:13

exactly just got to get it in first one checked off

4:15

. The only downside

4:18

, or the major downside I found from

4:20

training in the morning was I didn't learn

4:22

that much . Right , it was good for getting

4:24

the gears turning over , but

4:26

even though the instructor's there they teach the lesson

4:29

and I've taught that many morning classes

4:31

I found my morning crew , the

4:34

retention was not great . I would

4:36

show a technique on Monday . By the time we

4:38

got to Friday people were still like you

4:41

know , even though there was progressions and different things

4:43

around it , people were not keeping any

4:45

of it . Yeah , right , they got their jujitsu

4:47

in , but maybe the learning wasn't

4:50

. Yeah , I would say that the , the

4:52

, the general energy of a morning session is

4:54

a more kind of more

4:57

sporting .

4:58

Oh yeah , if you say , let's get together and like play

5:00

a couple rounds .

5:01

You know it's like it's that kind of thing , whereas you know

5:04

you contrast to an evening thing where it is , it can be

5:06

often more competitive , very intense . Yeah

5:08

, um , I got it , you know . Exception , and

5:10

I've mentioned them before the guys at baume that I that

5:12

I have done a few morning sessions with . They

5:15

fucking cram a huge amount in . There's

5:17

tough roles and what time is

5:19

that like six ? oh , there you go yeah

5:21

okay , yeah it , yeah , it's awful , horrific

5:24

. Please

5:28

describe the horrors . And it's also like they're

5:30

also very cerebral about it , like , okay

5:32

, today we're working on this and who's been workshopping

5:34

that and what problems have we had ? Okay , let's look at this little detail

5:36

in it . So do you think that's a gym culture

5:38

thing ? Then , yeah , I think they are a bit of an exception

5:41

, because my exposure

5:43

to mornings otherwise has been a little bit

5:45

more , you know , aforementioned

5:47

, yeah , more good vibes . Yeah , yeah

5:50

, and also there's a social component , because

5:52

sometimes people who work in the morning maybe

5:54

they own their own business , so their

5:57

start times make they don't have to rush out

5:59

, so maybe , like , who wants to get a coffee after ? You

6:01

know there could be , there could be a social

6:03

component to it if you're the kind of person who

6:06

has the liberty to do that kind of thing

6:08

. Here's another interesting observation of people

6:10

that train in the morning . Because you know you could

6:12

, um , I'm sure there's people out there like , fuck you , we train

6:14

, I train super hard in the morning and you know

6:16

, of course people do , um , I'm

6:18

sure you do , but the

6:20

it's called being condescending

6:23

, but heard of it , but they but . But

6:25

there's an argument that people train , like in the evening

6:28

. Classes are longer , there's more people there , it's

6:30

usually harder sessions . However

6:32

, you have control

6:35

of the morning . If you can train in the morning

6:37

, your chances of being

6:39

consistent over a long period of time are

6:41

probably the highest they can be , definitely

6:43

, whereas the evenings we have less control over

6:45

because shit comes up during the day . You've got to stay

6:47

back at work . Of course , kid got sick

6:50

, meetings yeah , like you just had to do

6:52

something , couldn't make it in . I was planning

6:54

to go tonight , but I didn't get there . So , even

6:56

though we might be , in a very general

6:58

way , saying yeah

7:06

, mornings are sometimes a little bit easier .

7:07

You do see morning people like get really good because it's three , like it's every week , week in , week

7:09

out there's very little inconsistency .

7:09

The thing that makes mornings harder and we've talked about this is

7:12

the nutrition component . You know , it's like

7:14

not having food in your tummy . The

7:16

system's not warmed up , you barely probably

7:18

drank your water . Physically

7:20

it can be very demanding depending on how

7:22

organized you are . You know , I have

7:24

found , intensity wise

7:26

, my best intensity , even though

7:28

I've had some really hard night sessions . My

7:31

best intensity is generated kind of mid

7:33

to late morning or lunchtime . Yeah , for me

7:35

, because you know there's water in the system

7:38

, food in the system , caffeine in the system , I'm

7:40

at my best to roll

7:42

as hard as I can . Yeah , and

7:44

generally that's only the domain of

7:46

. You know , maybe this is like

7:48

a fourth slot that people don't talk about , which

7:50

is kind of the pros . They're

7:53

training at 10 in the morning because they don't do anything

7:55

else and that would count as a morning session

7:57

. But that's not your 6 am crew , it's

7:59

a little bit different . Yeah , it's like a daytime session

8:01

, daytime sesh , and they're beautiful if you can get

8:03

it . That's classically the realm of the

8:05

open mat . Yeah , the 9 , 10 am

8:08

run it through to lunch . It's a good vibe

8:10

if you can get it . But if we're talking

8:12

about weekday hustle lunchtimes

8:15

Because there's some people out there . Maybe

8:17

they work close to their gym . That's

8:21

the only time they can get it . Suit goes off , gear goes on

8:23

, let's bang . It's usually a pretty short

8:25

class , similar thing to the morning . Right , it's like we

8:27

don't have a lot of time , let's just fucking get in , get a couple

8:29

rounds there . You go , get up . Yeah , that can be

8:31

great too , that can be a really good , that

8:34

can be a really good um energy

8:36

, but also it could fuck you

8:38

up . Here's how you're

8:41

a person , a professional , and you're

8:43

like , yeah , I just want to get some rounds in , I'm not here to fight

8:46

to death . And then you've got some mat

8:48

rat crew who have just been on there since the morning

8:50

. They're like we're trying to get our second training

8:52

session in and they're there to bang

8:55

it out . And you

8:57

get kicked in the face and you break your nose

8:59

or you know you get a because

9:02

it can happen . I

9:05

, that can be problematic

9:08

. Right , at the end of the day it's kind of

9:10

like , all right , I guess we're going to go to emergency or whatever . But

9:12

middle of the day it's like , oh sorry , boss , can't

9:15

go finish that job . Whatever it might

9:17

be , I'm in emergency . I got kicked in

9:19

the face by a 17-year-old

9:22

.

9:22

Yeah .

9:23

It's like what the fuck ? You're not getting fired , but

9:25

that's an inconvenience , subopt

9:32

, suboptimal . I believe that the lunchtime class is all about convenience . That's my take on it . Yeah

9:34

, again , I think that . Yeah , I think that those sessions , yeah , generally

9:36

, are often the domain of , like , that's

9:39

my only slot , so that's when I do it . Yeah

9:41

, and you know , like , if you , um , if you live

9:43

in the suburbs and you work in the city , yep

9:45

, and your gym is in the city , then

9:47

it , it kind of makes sense that , like , lunchtime is

9:49

probably going to be the only time you could go there . You

9:52

wouldn't go back home and then drive back to

9:54

the city , right , not at all , yeah , but what

9:56

I found actually like absolute mma

9:58

in the city , their lunchtime class pumped

10:00

. Like the location was primo for that

10:02

, because right in the central business

10:05

district , people get confused when I say cbd

10:07

. They're like the oil , the gummies .

10:09

I'm like no central business district where all

10:11

the buildings are downtown for our American listeners

10:14

downtown , where all the roles

10:16

I can't believe you hadn't just adopted downtown

10:18

since of this you know oh because

10:20

of because . I've seen American podcasters

10:23

no , unfortunately not

10:25

.

10:25

I'll work on it . Sorry friends , straight

10:27

out the jacks . Just a point there

10:29

, though . Um and

10:32

I really got to reiterate this I've been

10:34

guilty of showing up to morning classes and

10:36

lunchtime classes at random gyms over

10:38

the years , thinking , oh , this is going to be

10:40

chill . And then you fucking

10:42

slap hands with someone and they fucking

10:45

put it on and you're like whoa , whoa , whoa , it's a lunchtime

10:47

class . What are we doing ? You know , I thought we

10:49

were taking it easy . They're like no cunt , I'm training

10:51

, this is my time , and you're like , ah , a bit

10:53

of a misconception , sure you know

10:55

I think . I think that's very important to mention . And

10:58

you do also get in a lot of those sessions . You get

11:00

people that have been there . They've been I

11:02

don't know what it is , but they've established , yeah

11:04

, they've been there for a long time . They're maybe not

11:06

trying to , maybe they're at purple

11:09

bell brown , they're not trying to like do the evening hustle

11:11

and they're like look , I've settled into this

11:13

because it's a bit more balanced for my lifestyle

11:15

, but I will still fuck you up , I will

11:17

kill you . Yeah , yeah , and respect

11:19

to that , respect absolutely . But , um

11:22

, what I see as a bit of a drawback

11:25

on the um lunchtime even

11:27

though there's so many pros , there's

11:29

less time to work on your

11:31

jiu-jitsu , yeah . So , yes , they

11:34

do a technique , you practice the technique , you roll

11:36

, but then you straight on to the next thing . I

11:39

feel the thing that's really missing with the lunchtime class

11:41

. Now , maybe , if you get a chance to hang out , that's

11:43

cool . But what I notice is people are like off

11:45

the mats in the showers bang , bang , bang , get the fuck

11:47

out . Yeah , there's no , you don't have much free time . There's

11:50

no afterwards like oh yo , hey , what

11:52

did you do there ? And I think that there's

11:54

a huge value in jujitsu in the kind of post-class

11:57

breakdown or they're just just a bit

11:59

of workshopping , post-training chat , troubleshooting

12:02

. There's insight there , yeah , and that is totally

12:04

missed , like I . I feel at least from my

12:06

experience and I've trained at a lot of different gyms that

12:08

just that 10 minutes after class where

12:11

someone could be like , hey , man , can you show me this ? Or you could

12:13

be like , hey , what did you do there that

12:16

can unlock so much of your

12:18

knowledge or your thinking about jiu-jitsu , whereas

12:20

if you just wham bam , thank you , ma'am , and you're out

12:22

, you miss it . And

12:24

so I think that , even though there may be people

12:26

out there who are like I'm just trying to get it in

12:29

respect , you

12:31

may be missing out to a certain extent

12:33

yeah yeah , I'd agree . But then

12:35

we , we turn to the

12:37

brotherhood of the night , uh

12:40

, sisterhood also . Night training is

12:42

just generally where everyone , most people

12:44

, can get it right . You'd say night

12:46

classes are the biggest generally

12:49

generally speaking . Yeah , generally the

12:51

biggest . Yeah , busy , generally speaking , yeah , generally the biggest . Yeah

12:53

, busy , often longer yes , like your night class

12:55

might be the 90-minute thing , whereas maybe

12:57

in the mornings and lunchtime is an hour

12:59

and people can often

13:01

hang around for a little bit . They can Do that thing

13:03

. Some people do the double class Oof , you

13:08

know , like that's really .

13:08

I used to do that a lot like stick around for two and a half hours .

13:10

So , yeah , it lends itself to a different energy . Definitely

13:13

, like you were saying , joe , the

13:15

thing which can fuck up the consistency which

13:17

is what we need is your day

13:19

blowing out .

13:20

Yeah .

13:21

Like you get a flat tire or your kid punches

13:23

another kid at preschool and you're like , oh , I'm going

13:26

to have to go in here and defend him .

13:27

Yeah , Good on you son , that

13:32

was him .

13:32

yeah , good on your son , that was a great straight right . I love that

13:34

. No , you can't say that in front of the kindy kids , um , but you know it's true and

13:36

I knew this of my clients , my evening clients , like relevant

13:39

to being a personal trainer there was nearly

13:42

always one session cancelled in the week

13:44

yeah , because of life . Yeah , work

13:46

, drinks or some shit , well , even just okay

13:49

, no , I had to go do something . Yeah , and it just means

13:51

I just can't be there . And you're like , oh

13:53

god , that's , it's a punish

13:56

, because if you're only training twice or three times a week

13:58

, that's a huge , huge miss . Yeah

14:00

, even though there's so much going on when you get

14:02

there , everyone's there , the techniques

14:04

there , the rolling , you know the whole

14:07

energy of the night training . I

14:10

believe it's easier for people to skip a night class

14:12

. That's that's my take on it . Yeah

14:14

, for sure , for sure , way more stuff gets in the way

14:16

. There's I

14:18

. When I used to train evenings a lot , I

14:20

would never go into the week with a pre-thought

14:24

out schedule . Right , it wasn't like , yep

14:26

, I'm doing monday , wednesday , thursday , or

14:28

it was just I trained today

14:31

, I'll probably be back tomorrow , come . Tomorrow , probably come

14:33

the next day . But it gets very

14:35

easy when you're in that loop to maybe you miss

14:37

Monday and then you have a big day at work on Monday

14:40

, tuesday , and then you're like , ah , it's

14:42

Wednesday now . You're like

14:44

, ah , got a big weekend coming up and then all of a sudden

14:46

you just didn't really train that week . So

14:52

I find like , like you know , takeaway there is , try to have a schedule if you can . That kind of anchors

14:54

you . But the morning and the lunchtime people , they have their

14:57

schedule , yeah , because it's usually tied

14:59

to their work , yeah , or to their routine

15:01

, and it's like no , I go on this day at this time and

15:03

that's when I get it in . Structure is important , yeah

15:06

. And look , part of the reason why I

15:08

kind of cut back on the night training

15:10

was I just found it , it

15:12

fucked my sleep . I couldn't I

15:15

mean , I'm an obsessive person as well like

15:17

if I maybe

15:19

didn't get the better of a particular role

15:21

and something happened , it would

15:23

just , I would just ruminate . I found

15:25

, even if I would stretch after class , I

15:28

would just to have just flushed with

15:30

all the stress hormones and just jujitsu was in my

15:32

brain . So even I come home , have my shower

15:34

, do whatever before I go to

15:36

sleep I'd still be thinking about jujitsu and

15:39

I just didn't rest . Well my

15:41

body , I would get out the shower I'd still be sweating

15:43

like I don't know . I'm a I , I

15:45

kind of I'm a hot-blooded human , but I just

15:48

the change

15:50

for me that I found worked exceptionally

15:52

well . And now I understand that this is not

15:54

available to everyone because

15:56

of life . Doing

15:59

a morning or doing a lunch and then

16:01

maybe doing some weights later in the day , not

16:03

necessarily nighttime , but like Arvo-ish

16:06

four , five o'clock , like after work

16:08

is done , meant once I was home I

16:11

was eating dinner , rest , digest . I

16:14

actually think there's a huge value in after

16:17

about 6 , 7 pm , just not

16:19

doing stressful things , and

16:22

I understand that for most people it's

16:25

very hard to do that . But what I

16:27

wanted to put out there just off the back of this episode

16:29

is if you haven't done a morning

16:31

class , because it seems like it's too much messing

16:35

about to go early , maybe

16:38

if you just try it one time you might be like oh , hang

16:40

on that that was great . I got

16:42

a lot from that actually , yeah , like a net

16:44

, like the getting up early sucked , but

16:46

there was all these other positives that came from it , yeah

16:48

, and then maybe that means it doesn't mean you change your

16:50

whole life , even though you should

16:52

, no , um , but you know that

16:55

one change . You think , oh , maybe one day a week I might do a morning

16:57

class . Maybe a Friday I

16:59

can start a bit later , I

17:01

can start at nine instead of eight or something

17:03

, so that way I can get a morning class in

17:05

. And then you're like , oh well , that actually just changed

17:08

my whole day and my whole experience

17:10

. Because me

17:12

personally , even though I have found night classes

17:14

to be awesome in terms of you get the most

17:17

training partners , it's usually

17:19

the hardest training . The technical

17:21

information is the most , in

17:23

my opinion , the best . Man night

17:26

training . I would just be really… you

17:28

pay a price , yeah . There's a cost

17:30

there , oh yeah . And so I mean , how

17:33

about you , Joe , Because you've done a variety of

17:35

session times through the day . What

17:37

is your preferred time now

17:39

, do you think ?

17:42

Pros and cons , all balanced .

17:43

I'm back , I'm coaching Advantage Monday night

17:45

and I'm rolling Yep , and so I'm

17:48

back in the night thing on Mondays and it's fun

17:50

, like it's great , getting to connect with all the team

17:52

again . I haven't seen everyone for ages . People

17:55

are coming for me , which is , you

17:57

know , it's part of the game

18:00

. You see the wins . He's like yeah , just

18:02

thinking back to when Eric Eric tapped me

18:04

with a full Nelson , full Nelson

18:06

from the back , oh , this is big baseball

18:09

bat Club arms came in and then my all

18:11

of a sudden , my shoulders were just being separated from my

18:13

neck like from my torso . It was great

18:15

, but but yeah , such a brute bro

18:17

, but I'm talking about big frames , right

18:19

, yeah , but you know so that

18:22

that's been really fun and I and and I've

18:24

missed those guys . But my sleep is shit

18:26

. I was up till I think 10 past

18:28

11 on Monday , cause I

18:31

10 o'clock , I'd finished cleaning the kitchen and I'm

18:33

like normally I'd be in bed

18:35

20 minutes before that . Yep

18:37

, that's late and I'm like there's

18:39

no chance I'm going to bed right now . So I sat

18:41

down and watched TV for an hour and

18:43

that was great . I accepted the late

18:45

, the late bedtime , but it meant

18:47

that when I went to sleep I could sleep Right

18:49

. But that was really suboptimal for me because I'm usually

18:52

in bed between 9 , 30 and 10 , which

18:54

means that I'm up between 5 36

18:56

yeah so that one

18:59

night throughout my whole kind of routine , which is

19:01

not optimal , of course . Look for me

19:03

. These days I really like the

19:05

pros and cons , right . Sure , I

19:07

love the lunchtime session . Lunchtime

19:09

works great for me and that's what I've been doing at gracie bowman

19:12

. Yep , it's awesome . I got good energy . I

19:14

know that I can train hard and then I can have

19:16

plenty of time to like I can go back

19:18

to work afterwards and chill out and all that . But

19:22

it's not good for me when I

19:24

have a lot of work and I'm trying to be productive , because

19:27

to go and train at sort of 12.30

19:29

means that I'm already kind of like

19:31

I've got to leave the house , you know just about 12 . I've got to leave the house , you

19:33

know just about 12 , I start getting ready like quarter

19:35

to 12 . And then I'm not really

19:38

back on the tools until 3 o'clock . Yeah

19:40

, you

19:43

know when you factor in like okay , 90 minutes of training plus a shower and shit , and

19:45

then you're having lunch .

19:45

Yeah .

19:46

And it's like that's actually a huge chunk of the middle

19:48

of the day , Massive , yeah . So I

19:50

do find if I'm on a flow with getting work done

19:52

, I'll just be like nah .

19:54

Yeah .

19:54

Nah , fair enough . Now I'm

19:58

in a bit of a sticky spot . I'm not

20:00

so desperate that I've got to make the mornings

20:02

work . Sure , If that was getting chronically

20:04

like if I was not getting the training in , I would

20:06

love to see it . Joey

20:10

just comes to work and he's just like a little jittery and I'm like

20:12

, oh , what's going on ?

20:21

You what's going on ? Man , you look a little bit flustered .

20:23

He's like I'm on my third coffee and I'm like , oh , it's the , it's only nine o'clock , you

20:25

haven't been meditating what's going on , right ? Yeah , like tables turned , I could see myself doing

20:27

mornings at a point . Yeah , you know , um , just to fit it . But for now , yeah , lunchtime's

20:29

great . Yeah , what informs the way

20:31

I approach this whole thing ? Partly

20:33

I've read it in dr mat Matthew

20:36

Baker's book why we Sleep . Matthew

20:38

Walker , matthew Walker , dr Matthew Walker

20:40

, I apologize . Thanks for listening

20:42

. Sorry , I fucked up your name . Here's

20:45

the thing With circadian rhythms

20:47

, whatever . When you look at people who are

20:49

more prone to being awake

20:52

earlier , being alert earlier , and people who are

20:54

more prone to being alert later

20:56

, people who are

20:58

more early risers , early birds , they

21:00

do their best mental work in

21:03

the morning . That's when they are at their

21:05

most efficient . So

21:07

that really that's me For

21:10

nine hours . like my partner

21:12

Ola , she does her best cognitive work

21:14

kind of post 7 pm , right she kind

21:16

of has this second yeah gear

21:18

where she goes 7 pm all right on the laptop , do

21:21

it and she's good till like midnight , yeah , whereas

21:23

me , once I get past about like 1 pm 2

21:25

pm , cognitively I'm terrible . Physically

21:27

I can do a lot , I can still train , I can do

21:29

a lot , but I'm not making good decisions after

21:32

that time . So for me , in terms of how

21:34

I balance my day , I prefer to get get up

21:36

fucking ridiculous early , get

21:38

it out by lunch and then I'm kind

21:41

of free , yeah , whether I'm lifting weights or I'm

21:43

doing jiu-jitsu , I can choose how I dictate

21:45

that and I'm pretty lucky that my work

21:48

allows me to do that . But yeah , like you

21:50

might be working a night shift fuck , you might be working

21:52

two jobs , so you're like I'll just do

21:54

jiu-jitsu whenever the bloody hell I can fit it yeah

21:56

, and salute to folks

21:58

like you . I met a gentleman on the um

22:01

last week . Who was who ? Was that kind of a guy

22:03

you know two kids , two

22:05

jobs , like just doing

22:07

it . I was like , how often you're training ? He's like man , sometimes

22:10

it's once a week . I'm like , yeah , all right

22:12

, cool . He's like sometimes I get three and I'm stoked

22:14

. But he was was a tough role , like he's a

22:16

strong , tough human , so he

22:18

was just trying to get the most out of whatever he could

22:20

fit in .

22:21

Yeah .

22:21

I think the great thing is now that most jiu-jitsu

22:23

gyms will offer multiple

22:26

time slots .

22:27

Yeah .

22:27

So there's more ways to get it in

22:29

your life . And different gyms will have

22:31

different cultures around that , won't they like

22:33

? You know , like I was saying before , like about main morning

22:36

crew is like really fucking solid , it's tough , yeah

22:38

. And you go to another gym and morning crew is like

22:40

it's more , it's a bit more relaxed , it's a bit lighter . Some

22:42

gyms have that pro session right where you've got a bunch

22:44

of killers coming in at like 10 o'clock . I

22:47

remember , you know , gracie , we used to . They had like the

22:49

, the black belt training which was like 10

22:51

, 30 , you know , a couple days a week . You're like

22:53

fuck , this is a really like tough mat

22:55

. So you know , different gyms got

22:57

different things going on . I think you

22:59

know to your point earlier about , say

23:02

, maybe the shorter

23:04

classes , like morning crew , lunch crew . They

23:06

often miss out on that extra time to just kind of

23:08

troubleshoot stuff . Yep , you

23:10

could easily just put that in by going like

23:12

oh

23:17

, hey , just put that in by going like , oh , hey , on , uh , on the thursday or the friday session . We're

23:19

just going to keep that as like a bit of an open mat kind of workshop thing . So come in with any problems

23:21

you had from the week and let's discuss them there

23:23

. And you know so , rather than it being like

23:25

an after each session . It's like on that

23:27

session we do that . Yeah , the only

23:30

drawback and I love an open mat , I think

23:32

open mat is is a beautiful thing people

23:34

just leave . You know how typically people

23:37

go okay , see , I've got to go , whatever . That's cool

23:39

. But because there's no actual

23:41

structure , people can kind of come when they want and

23:43

they can kind of go when they want and that is the beauty of the

23:45

thing . But oftentimes

23:48

the person you wanted to chat to , or whatever they

23:50

might have just had to jet , and

23:53

then you're like , oh , we were here , but then

23:55

, yeah , the moment is is

23:57

gone , it's true , whereas with the structured class

23:59

it ends , and if it's a

24:01

container it stops yeah and

24:03

then we know that , hey , we've got 10 minutes before

24:06

coach wants to clean the mats or whatever , and so that's

24:08

when we can do the little power . is that a case

24:10

, you think , for like having a little bit of a structure

24:13

with open mats , being like hey , starts here , finishes

24:15

here , finishes here , you know ? So it's like you're kind

24:17

of letting people know like , don't come and go as you please . Yeah

24:19

, I think there's something to that , and what I had seen

24:22

is that they would have a class of

24:24

sorts . So I'm not super strict

24:26

, but after a certain point

24:28

it's open mat and so…

24:30

.

24:30

Right , so they would already do some rolling .

24:32

We're going to do a bit of technique stuff and then open

24:34

and then it's up to you come and go as you please

24:36

, but after that time you know that maybe

24:38

I can hang around or I can't , and

24:41

I think taking advantage of that little

24:43

window post-training is a good

24:45

time to get a bit of extra learning in no matter

24:48

what time of day you're doing it , I like it . Hey

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