In this episode of “But Are You Thriving?”, Thrive Market co-founder Gunnar Lovelace talks to author, speaker, and political candidate Marianne Williamson. Full of hope and optimism, their conversation covers personal growth, learning from joy and pain, and the significance of spiritual practices in navigating the challenges of modern life. 

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Full Episode Summary:

Marianne starts with the importance of grounding yourself in the morning to counteract the chaos and stress of the world. Along those lines, she highlights the need for discipline and spiritual exercise to develop inner stillness and non-reactivity. 

Later, Marianne and Gunnar touch on the role of the billionaire class, the state of humanity, and personal growth. To Marianne, it’s vital to recognize personal accountability and the power of choice. She suggests that influential figures like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk choose to maintain their positions of wealth. Taking an empathetic approach, she acknowledges the need for compassion toward individuals who experience pain, regardless of their socioeconomic status.

The conversation then shifts to the current state of humanity and the challenges it faces. Marianne thinks that humanity is on the brink of a crisis due to the mistreatment of people and planet, and the reckless use of destructive weapons. She believes active participation and a commitment to making positive changes in various aspects of life are necessary for us all to thrive in current times. 

Marianne thinks each individual has unique talents and abilities that can contribute to creating a more sustainable world. She highlights the importance of mindfulness, a shift in consciousness toward collaboration, and service to something greater than oneself. 

Finally, the conversation addresses the crisis of consciousness and the conflicting forces of fear, greed, and violence that humanity grapples with. Marianne reiterates the importance of serving something greater than one's self-interests and finding fulfillment through giving to others. She acknowledges the need for self-care to maintain personal well-being and effectively contribute to the world.

Gunnar wraps up the conversation by sharing where people can find Marianne’s work, including her social media platforms and her website, as well as the daily meditations she shares through her Substack newsletter.

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