0:00

Oh my goodness, green he

0:04

shit, Oh

0:08

my goodness.

0:09

Greed.

0:10

He shit, Oh

0:14

my gosh. So I was trying to think how we

0:16

met.

0:17

We met through Adam at

0:20

Adam Roberts, our friend who it was

0:23

twenty twenty one May

0:25

May of twenty twenty one, at his house at

0:27

the dinner party.

0:29

You're one of these people.

0:30

Well, I can kind of remember no dates, well,

0:32

because I remember it was the first dinner party, like after

0:34

COVID when everyone had been vaccinated. So I remember it

0:37

was like May, so it had to be twenty

0:39

twenty one, and it was you and

0:42

Natasha and then like assorted

0:45

gays. You're the only two women that I remember.

0:47

Okay, well that's so, and I'm learning is

0:49

that's my comfort zone. I thought i'd

0:52

move past that because I mostly like women now,

0:54

I guess friends. But then

0:56

I was like in a group of women the other day

0:58

and I was like, they're

1:01

like.

1:01

Think Sarah, Okay, Trixy all right,

1:03

you know, like back at you appreciate you,

1:05

Marsha. I was like, oh my god, I don't

1:08

know what to do right now.

1:09

Yeah, so you can hang out with lesbians.

1:11

It's like heavenly creatures or it

1:13

makes me think something ominous is gonna

1:15

happen. So, yes, we met

1:17

at a dinner party. Then we

1:19

had a whole citrus dalliance.

1:21

Oh yeah, I still have that

1:23

in my closet.

1:24

Wait, so were you

1:26

gonna you were gonna start doing that? Did you?

1:29

Kind of?

1:29

I'm still working on I was gonna start making jams

1:32

and jellies and sending it to people. I wanted to

1:34

like come over to people's homes

1:36

and like take their fruit and do it that way. But it's

1:38

just too much planning and stuff.

1:40

So yeah, So I

1:42

have this orange tree in my yard

1:44

that's just extremely sour, and

1:49

I.

1:49

Made some marmaladish

1:51

stuff with it. You did I did?

1:53

Oh?

1:53

I think I made like three.

1:54

Jones Okay, so it was from those so those are technically

1:56

are usable.

1:57

Yes. Wait, I might have dropped it off to

1:59

you. Did I ever like put a bag

2:02

inside your gate and just run?

2:04

I mean, this is the problem was years ago.

2:06

It's almost like I'm an amnesiac

2:09

and watching the Wendy Williams sing I'm really like I

2:11

got to get.

2:11

My affairs man, oh man, I

2:13

mean, oh my god.

2:16

Yeah. I went to her show like nine

2:18

times when I lived in New York. I'm like, I'm

2:21

really sad she's gone. Yeah Wow.

2:23

And that audience, I mean, yeah,

2:26

you know, I as far as talk shows

2:28

go, I feel like that is the most hype audience

2:30

I've ever experienced.

2:31

You get there at like eight am, no before

2:33

that, because you have to line up and they are blasting

2:36

the loudest hip hop music. It is thirty

2:39

degrees in there, and you were having to like

2:41

dance and like shout the entire time.

2:43

It was to stay warm.

2:44

Yeah, And they would do a dance competition where

2:46

they would bring out probably four or five women,

2:48

and then they'd pick two men at the end

2:50

and make like and they would have everyone come down

2:53

the women like dance torque, do whatever, and you're supposed

2:55

to like win a competition. But then when they got to the

2:57

men, they would actually make them do a dance battle. And

2:59

they happened to me and my friend on

3:01

a Halloween episode.

3:03

Did anyone film it?

3:04

I hope not. I don't think so. And so

3:06

we had to like dance off together dressed as

3:08

Oh the Riddler. I had like a purple

3:10

mask and like a green sweater. I think

3:13

he was just like a zombie Elvis or something. And

3:15

so every time we went after that,

3:17

like when they got to that part of the show, we would

3:19

literally duck down and start like tying our shoes and just

3:21

like hid the chips was like, this is not happening.

3:24

Oh it wasn't neither of us. And also like back

3:27

then it was like were you gonna win like a trip

3:29

to like you know, Malibu or something, and

3:31

then there was nothing. Then after we

3:33

started going back, they were like, oh, we actually do have prizes

3:36

now.

3:36

So I was like, damn, So I when

3:38

I think of you, I think be Ben Mim.

3:42

This is the social media, Yeah,

3:44

what is your handle?

3:46

Is Ben b Mimes. But just

3:48

because like someone had already taken Ben Mims,

3:50

so I had to like and I did my

3:53

nickname in high school, this girlfriend

3:55

of mine, she would call me b Mem So I was like, so

3:58

I just said, okay, I'll just put a be there is to make it.

4:00

So what are your friends call you? Ben?

4:02

Ben? And also

4:04

Ben is my middle name.

4:06

It's like got so much like characters.

4:08

Well, now I do have people who call me Ben by or

4:11

but Ben is my middle name, so it actually is technically

4:14

what's your first name? William? I don't go

4:16

by that everyone finds

4:18

so weird.

4:20

Now we're getting into it, there's almost no way to

4:22

avoid the deep psychosis at the

4:24

core of this visit.

4:26

It's like a Southern thing. I guess I get. You have two names

4:29

and you get to pick one. It's not really a first name

4:31

and middle name. It's a two names really,

4:33

and then you go by it.

4:34

So I'm Chelsea Vanessa. So I could have been

4:36

Vanessa.

4:37

Why not? What is a middle

4:39

name after Vanessa?

4:40

Does not suit me?

4:41

I don't think I could see it. Yeah,

4:44

I can see both.

4:45

Ben or William. Yeah, I think Ben

4:47

does make more sense for you.

4:49

Yeah. And if someone called me Bill the other day and

4:51

I was like please, it's just like it

4:53

shivers down my spine. No offense to bills,

4:55

but it's just like.

4:56

A shout out to the bill, not me listening,

4:59

and the bill being paid right

5:01

now.

5:01

That is true?

5:04

Wait, I need to back up. I always do this.

5:06

Okay, So you were a

5:08

food writer for the La Times. You're currently

5:11

have.

5:11

A book coming out all

5:13

that.

5:14

How did you get involved in food in the first

5:16

place.

5:18

The very short answer, grew up in the South. We

5:21

learned to cook from you know, my mom and

5:23

parents, and all that stuff.

5:24

And then your mema and your peapot.

5:26

My no, my papa and

5:29

my mama, so you're close.

5:31

Just had the vows a little twisted up.

5:34

And then they had And then one of my grandfathers was Bbi,

5:36

so you have a get to do.

5:38

Don't say those don't

5:41

say that name around here.

5:43

But he was the city one. The papa and the memhi

5:45

they were the country ones, and

5:48

so learned to cook from them. Went to culinary school

5:50

after college journalism. Worked

5:52

in food magazines in York for many years.

5:55

Now, when you were working at food magazines, like

5:57

getting coffee for people and stuff.

5:59

The first the

6:01

first four months, I was as an editorial assistant, like

6:04

doing research, doing coffee and all the stuff.

6:06

And then I worked in the test kitchen, so I started testing.

6:08

Like test kitchen, like actually test

6:11

kitchen.

6:11

These things used to exist.

6:12

They don't anymore, but there is a whole site

6:14

that's test Kitchen.

6:16

Yeah, the America's Test Kitchen. I guess in

6:19

was it Boston or somewhere. They still exist,

6:21

but like it used to be, every magazine had one, and now

6:23

they don't know because they're too expensive.

6:26

Well yeah, and it's like isn't

6:28

every TikTok recipe should have a test kitchen

6:31

because guess what, A lot of those recipes

6:33

aren't good.

6:34

Well, they're also taken from other people. Yeah,

6:36

so you can't trust everything on TikTok.

6:39

I think it's only a precursor to what Ai

6:42

is going to do with recipes.

6:44

Oh, it's already happened. People are on Twitter

6:46

like, oh, I had Ai make like a

6:48

grocery list and recipes for me. And I was like, I

6:51

can't even be mad at that, because that's a brilliant use

6:53

of having Ai come up with shit for you.

6:56

Where are we headed?

6:57

I'm defunct. I got to find a new job.

6:59

I know.

6:59

We all got

7:02

to.

7:02

Start learning how to make tables, cups,

7:05

We gotta make things, gabbles. I'm

7:08

going to become a gabble maker.

7:09

You're gonna be a wood worker.

7:10

I think that's a little more specific

7:14

a gavelist. Hello,

7:17

Hello, Hi, hi, Hi.

7:21

I'm here with Ben MIM's,

7:24

former La Times food writer, currently

7:27

a book author on the topic of

7:30

food called

7:33

Crumbs. Have you heard this

7:35

this Willow Smith song called

7:38

Wait a Minute?

7:39

Yes, I actually listened to it yesterday.

7:41

Do you like it?

7:42

I like it, but the.

7:43

Sixth dimension thing kind of like confuses

7:45

me.

7:48

You can't question to go with it?

7:50

Yeah, what do you mean?

7:52

I don't know. I was like, I just like I find

7:54

her interesting.

7:55

As like a celebrity.

7:57

So I was like algy thing

7:59

like like the whole chemtrail conspiracy

8:02

theory, like I was just wondering.

8:04

Was like, okay, that's another thing.

8:05

But it's a good song.

8:07

Yeah, I guess I don't know about all that

8:11

aspect of it, but the song, I was like, this

8:13

is actually very good to me. It's

8:15

it's don all the time that I want to listen to

8:17

a song like over and over. And

8:20

there was another one that I

8:22

oh, I listened to a two chain song, you

8:25

know, as I was driving around the

8:27

other night, revisited an old

8:30

an old classic felt

8:33

fantastic.

8:34

Also like how often is it that a nepotism

8:37

child makes good music?

8:39

So yeah, yeah, well

8:41

I was thinking about that in the car on the way

8:43

here, and I'm like, okay, so if you're broke and

8:45

you play the fucking banjo at a

8:47

bar, and then you have a kid and they have a natural

8:49

gift to play the banjo at a bar, and no one's like

8:51

oh fuck you. It's like, no,

8:53

they obviously have a similar gift. It's

8:56

like probably genetic and similar

8:58

passion and there being artisanal

9:01

going following in their father's supposed to. But

9:03

if you're rich, it's like your kid

9:06

should just not exist, shouldn't

9:08

have Like I mean, I get it, because

9:11

I get the whole NEPO baby

9:13

hatred and stuff, and it is annoying that people

9:15

just get born into opportunity

9:18

and success. But it's also like, what are they supposed

9:20

to do exactly if they have

9:22

that skill? I think it all is because

9:24

I like this Willow Smith song. Yeah, now

9:27

I'm like, hey, hey, what

9:29

are they supposed to do if

9:31

they have a song? Yeah,

9:33

if they have a song to sing? I don't know.

9:36

Also, like everyone's working to be successful

9:39

to provide that for their child, So like I'm

9:41

all for it, Like that's what you want, is your kid

9:43

not to have to struggle?

9:45

Yeah, I don't know what I am. I can't say

9:47

i'm all for it because there's instances where

9:49

I'm like

9:51

like.

9:52

I can't yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.

9:54

Yeah, there's certain people where I'm like, do

9:58

you have no qualms about

10:00

helping your child? Like I don't know where you need

10:02

to draw the line.

10:03

Yeah, well there should be at least talent, I'll

10:05

say that. Yeah, getting in Well,

10:08

she can't say. And she's making different music

10:10

than the crappy dance

10:12

stuff.

10:13

Okay, now call her. Do you know

10:15

about Marie Condo?

10:16

Right?

10:17

Oh of course?

10:18

Yeah.

10:19

Do you know that she quit? Like she doesn't do

10:21

it anymore? Wait? Really

10:23

no, because twice in the last week, people

10:26

including uh today

10:28

here with mister Mims. Uh

10:31

now, mister Mims, is good, mister

10:34

Mims.

10:35

I should name my jam company that maybe yes.

10:38

A hundred mister Mims.

10:41

Now, mister Mams, is it true

10:44

that you spend upwards of one hour

10:46

making your jam?

10:51

Mister mister

10:55

Maams, please approach the stand

11:03

now, mister Mimes, is it true

11:05

that you spend upwards of one

11:08

hour making your jam?

11:10

Mid? Mister mid mid, mister

11:13

Mims.

11:18

Now, now, mister

11:21

mill, mister

11:30

Mims, mister Mimes.

11:33

My jam, my jam.

11:35

Mister Mims, mister mister

11:38

Mims, m mister

11:41

mister Mems, mister Miles.

11:44

My damn my jam,

11:46

mister Mims, mister mister

11:49

Mims, mister

11:52

mens.

11:56

So anyway, Marie Condo, the

12:00

you know the gold standard for tidiness

12:04

is no longer. She's

12:06

more focused on spending time with her young family.

12:09

She says, I have kind of given up on that in

12:11

a good way for a whow So I

12:13

just want everyone who's like anyone

12:15

who's begging them to go to a mess. Sorry,

12:19

no, you go go ahead.

12:21

I was just wondering, I'm like, does that mean that, like her

12:23

place is a mess now and there's.

12:25

Just like shit everywhere.

12:26

Yeah,

12:30

but just the fact that people are now living

12:32

in her shadow, trying to

12:34

live up to this this standard.

12:39

And this is what happened to me when I read

12:41

all these feminist theorists in high school

12:43

and then like I found out things about their personal

12:46

lives and I was like, you know what, I can't live in

12:48

theory. Hello caller,

12:51

Hi Chelsea. How are we doing today,

12:53

Honey?

12:53

I'm doing amazing.

12:54

How are you?

12:56

I love honey? Favorite.

13:00

When I was young good,

13:03

when I was like in my twenties doing stand up, I

13:05

was like, you know, I just I want to be like a big

13:08

bosom diner waitress. Its

13:10

calls everyone honey.

13:11

Yeah.

13:11

But I actually genuinely feel I've organically

13:14

morphed into someone who does feel

13:16

like calling young people like,

13:19

it's not an act.

13:20

You think I am?

13:22

How young do I sound?

13:23

I just assume at this point everyone's

13:25

young, but I

13:27

am. But let me see. Say say

13:29

a sentence and I'll tell you how old I think.

13:31

You are a sentence.

13:34

Oh, you're just like my child.

13:37

I think you're seventy five.

13:39

Okay, you're so close.

13:43

Hello. Do

13:46

you feel the stress, the adrenaline,

13:49

the stress you got your back against the old.

13:52

Yeah, it's I try to put myself

13:54

into a fight or flight situation. Now see,

13:56

people think of it as like, oh, I'm powerful,

13:59

I'm hanging up a people know it's actually

14:01

panic, trying to make gold

14:04

out of a call, trying to make someone engaging

14:09

and feeling like, hey, they're calling me

14:11

from an airport tarmac. I can't hear

14:13

anything, they have nothing to say. They're sassin

14:15

me, but not in a way that's gonna make me laugh.

14:17

You know, it's tricky, it's tricky entertainment.

14:21

But we're all in it together. And that's call

14:24

her. Do you believe in Marie Condo.

14:29

To an extent?

14:30

You know she's dropped out. Huh,

14:32

she dropped out of the biz. What

14:35

do you mean she doesn't mean she

14:38

has better things to do than organized

14:40

like a order.

14:41

Now.

14:43

I don't know, but she's just not feeling

14:45

the whole like tidy and up thing anymore

14:48

as a gambit, So what is

14:50

she doing? Just hanging

14:52

out with her kids and stuff who are probably

14:54

like making tons of messes.

14:56

Okay, wait, Chelsey, Yeah,

14:59

I have some stuff to say.

15:00

Okay, I have a whole notes

15:03

on my phone.

15:04

Wow, I'm an og.

15:07

Member of the clubs.

15:09

So okay, hold

15:11

on, I'm gonna

15:11

have.

15:14

Yeah, you know, just wane in my comments, the

15:16

comments are really you know what I was thinking

15:18

about, Like comments sections for I

15:20

don't know if it's just me, but it's not. I know it's

15:22

not just me. Comment sections

15:25

online are like closing time at a

15:27

bar. Like that's the energy

15:29

of everyone in the comments on anything

15:32

you see. It's like you don't have to

15:34

say, like can you? I so

15:36

much of the time I just can't. Yes, go ahead,

15:40

Sorry.

15:40

I have a question.

15:41

When you guys talk about comment sections

15:43

on a podcast, where are

15:46

they. I've never seen a

15:48

comment section when it comes to a podcast.

15:51

I'm talking about on Instagram from

15:53

my account or the podcast account.

15:55

Okay, Chlorophy

15:58

a little whit He just

16:00

sort of give you some

16:02

parameters for the comments

16:04

in question.

16:06

Thank you.

16:08

Anyway, this person was like, I just

16:10

listened to the Lake Anderson

16:13

episode and there was so many jack

16:15

puts and it was hard to listen to. I go,

16:17

I think it was an atypical amount because

16:19

I remember thinking, I'm hitting too many

16:22

jackpots. They're not deserved. It's

16:24

supposed to be a rare, freakish

16:26

event. That said a fantasia was

16:28

popping off. We got a little carried away. I

16:31

had never heard of it. I couldn't believe all these

16:33

callers had it or knew about it.

16:35

Anyway, two callers back

16:37

to back was insane.

16:38

It was crazy. It was remarkable.

16:42

I never even knew about the phenomenon. So,

16:44

you know, I was having a moment. I got a little trigger happy.

16:46

Whatever, you know, it happens. Okay, what

16:49

is this fucking sixty minutes? Can I

16:51

have a little fun? Can I live

16:53

a little? So then this person,

16:56

after I take the time to write back to them

16:58

and say, you know, I think it was atypical more

17:01

than usual, then they go, I listen to

17:03

another podcast. I'm not sure

17:05

about that. I take you the jackpot.

17:07

I'm like, you know what, At this point, the decisions

17:10

in your hands. If you don't like it,

17:12

that's gonna be a you decision. I

17:15

can't. I can't hold your hand through the process

17:18

of deciding if you like me or not. Okay,

17:21

what's your list, Let's get into your file,

17:24

let's open it up.

17:26

All right?

17:27

Oh, this is a more recent one. This

17:30

is a trader Joe's recommendation for

17:33

you. Okay,

17:35

the the

17:38

cookie, the tacative cookie, ice

17:40

cream sandwich.

17:40

Have you had it?

17:43

No, I don't. I have bad news

17:45

for you.

17:47

Listen. I know there's

17:50

no excuse for adults to eat

17:52

ice cream.

17:53

No, no, no, that's not what I was going to

17:55

say. Listen, even though that is my take, secretly,

17:57

of course I do eat ice cream.

18:01

My My real point is that I actually

18:03

don't really like chocolate chips that

18:05

much. And in terms

18:08

of an ice cream sandwich, what do I want? The

18:10

most basic little

18:13

chocolate with vanilla filling.

18:16

I don't like when these gourmet cookies,

18:18

two huge, highly caloric

18:21

gourmet cookies sandwich with

18:23

like caral salted caramel ice cream.

18:25

Guess what? Too sweet, too.

18:28

Fancy, it's

18:30

hard to chew too, it's hard.

18:32

Ice slides out. There's

18:35

a reason tells you.

18:37

This is why I'm recommending it to you. The

18:40

cookies at Trader Joe's are

18:42

under baked. They are like

18:45

basically chocolate cookie dough.

18:48

My answers not.

18:58

It's insane. Okay, it's insane.

19:01

You're you're ignoring the fact that I don't like

19:03

chocolate chip cookies. It's over.

19:05

Well, oh

19:09

this is this is just for Adam

19:12

for when you do.

19:13

Your Trader joe things again.

19:16

All right, fine, next,

19:19

okay.

19:20

Next, um,

19:24

do you want to do a food test?

19:25

I feel like these are sure right.

19:30

I feel like you get this one a lot of goat cheese.

19:36

Mm wait,

19:39

does general take or like what

19:42

I.

19:42

Have already talked about this. I don't like the

19:44

one that's in a big old plastic tube and has

19:46

like it's very nineties, Like

19:50

in the nineties my mom was.

19:51

Like cranberries and goiat cheese and bass

19:54

saspberry vinigarette.

19:55

Yeah, red roast, red peppers.

19:57

Yeah, drizzling things became a

19:59

thing. But obviously

20:02

a great goat cheese. Sure you

20:04

know what's gross to me on goat cheese with salads

20:06

is like imagining someone like creating

20:08

little weird crumbles of it. With their fingers

20:10

when it's so gross, like

20:13

a yeah, like blue cheese somehow

20:15

doesn't do that because it's firmer, but the goat it's like

20:17

got this oily finger. This

20:19

is like another thing. I don't know what you think about this,

20:21

but when you go to a hotel and they fold the

20:23

toilet paper at the tip, I go,

20:26

wait, So now all I know is that you've been

20:28

touching the toilet paper, and

20:30

if I touch my ass to that little

20:32

fold, I'm almost effectively touching your

20:34

finger. I might be getting your DNA and

20:36

my asshole.

20:37

Yea, and they haven't washed

20:39

their hands. This is why I am very

20:41

pro bidet people need to have them.

20:44

You know, I want to be into Bidet's. But

20:46

I do feel like, don't they just splash shit

20:48

water all over your butt.

20:49

And splash clean water over your

20:51

dirty butthole and then they clean it off.

20:53

Yeah, but the dirty butthole water

20:56

could deflect with the

20:58

spray.

20:59

Well yeah, but then you just like, but it all

21:01

goes into the toilet.

21:02

But isn't your whole butt get covered.

21:05

Just your crack and then you use

21:07

less toilet paper just to like dry your ass

21:10

off. That's it. It's amazing. If

21:12

I have to travel now, I don't have my bidet from home.

21:15

IM like pissed the entire time.

21:16

Can't you have a travel today?

21:18

You know what? You can? They make one? It's literally

21:20

just like an inverted water bottle.

21:24

Like that after my child birth,

21:26

did you?

21:27

Yeah? But I'm not doing

21:29

that so yeah.

21:30

So it's labor intensive.

21:32

It's too much to point just wipe

21:34

your to do like yoga and I'm just like whatever,

21:37

I just like wet the toilet paper with like faucet water

21:39

and use that.

21:40

It is Honestly, it is an area that could use

21:43

some innovation.

21:44

Yeah, it's what it's

21:47

go Yes, right now, killing

21:51

on a.

21:52

Tangent talking about dirty bubble?

21:54

Are you holding your little filing paper. You've

21:57

got your spectacles on and you're like.

21:59

It's not.

22:01

Waiting for us to shad.

22:02

Cheese is good, but

22:04

it's one of those things that can be bad.

22:07

I'm going to say overall yes on goat cheese

22:10

wrong? Good?

22:12

Yeah, good?

22:15

Wrong.

22:15

Canned You're

22:19

you're wrong, and your peaches are

22:21

not a fave of mine.

22:25

You had

22:27

too many canned peaches.

22:29

Honey, you're wrong, hon, Wait,

22:32

so you're going to defend canned peaches, but.

22:35

Yeah, she hates

22:36

to. Please

22:38

make that your bio if you have a dating

22:40

profile. I hate Tahini

22:43

and I love canned peaches,

22:46

and make your profile picture of you

22:48

you holding a can of peaches with one

22:50

dangling off you're

22:52

about to eat it. Yeah,

22:55

the fucking the brownish

22:57

peach dangling off,

23:00

covered in corn starch or whatever. The it's

23:02

covered and you've got your big dumb

23:04

smile on your face, and you're like, I love

23:07

camp peaches and I

23:09

hate delicious to what

23:12

the hell is going on in your upside

23:14

down world?

23:17

Almond butter, she's

23:19

face, She's like next.

23:21

Almond butter is good to me, but only

23:24

in moderation.

23:26

I love it. How do you eat

23:28

it in smoothiest bowls?

23:30

Because I'm very I'm very current.

23:33

We're always too sweet, they're always

23:35

too silly, I agree,

23:39

but I do is bad.

23:42

It's bad.

23:43

Where where are you calling from? What?

23:45

What hell hole have

23:48

you everything?

23:50

Think about it?

23:51

Wait one more, I need to

23:53

know where you're calling from after this, and I

23:55

do my.

23:55

Last one, and I'll tell you.

23:56

Because she likes campeaches, but la

23:59

is not not in La in

24:01

Toronto, It ain't in New

24:04

York.

24:04

No, oh, yess I am sounds

24:07

like Fresno behavior.

24:08

You're in New York and you're

24:10

just sitting there eating canned peaches.

24:12

In the.

24:15

What the hell is going on? That's not where you grew

24:17

up. I'll say that.

24:19

No, you're right, I did not grow up.

24:21

You grew up in Des Moines. Wherein

24:28

Des Mois?

24:31

Like in Indiana? I don't know what that is.

24:32

I don't know.

24:34

I grew up in Atlanta.

24:36

Weird.

24:36

Oh I was just there.

24:37

Don't they have good fresh peaches?

24:40

Can't peaches from Atlanta with you?

24:42

I'm worried about it?

24:43

Actually, Actually, no, Atlanta doesn't

24:46

have good peaches because they

24:48

export all of.

24:49

Them and then they leave the bad ones

24:51

for us.

24:52

That's so weird. When I was in Costa Rica,

24:54

that's what they said about

24:57

their coffee. They export

24:59

all the best coffee. What are we

25:01

doing to ourselves in this modern day

25:05

hamster wheel?

25:07

Saying? The local people and to everyone

25:10

else?

25:10

Yeah, so you're in New York.

25:13

I'm in New York.

25:13

You love can peaches, you hate

25:16

Tahimi? What's

25:18

your favorite TV show of all time?

25:21

Of all time?

25:22

Yeah? What what's your favorite comedy show?

25:27

Comedy show?

25:29

I haven't seen it comedy in a while.

25:32

If I'm being real, what are

25:34

you all about? What are you all about?

25:37

How did how what

25:39

did you? How did you encounter this podcast?

25:45

Wow?

25:45

My I had

25:47

an I had a former friend introduced

25:50

it Tommy back in the vintage days,

25:53

and I listened to the whole entire thing.

25:56

And yeah, why are they

25:58

a former.

26:03

That?

26:03

I don't know if they still listen to

26:05

this, I don't want to.

26:07

I hope they do.

26:08

Yeah, I want to know they.

26:10

On their side, they're like listen,

26:14

oh my shot.

26:15

Okay, wait, I mean you brought it up so.

26:18

So you live were in New York wet neighborhood

26:21

Williamsburg. All

26:27

right, it's thirteen minutes

26:29

and we gotta go. That's too long.

26:33

Too long?

26:34

Can't peach?

26:35

OFFICI I can't

26:38

can't peaches. It's like

26:41

I'm trying to think if there's a way or time

26:43

that can't peaches are good?

26:44

No?

26:45

Hello, heyter,

26:48

Hi?

26:48

How are you pretty early?

26:50

No?

26:50

Is it?

26:52

I mean not really like two pm? Yeah?

26:56

Yeah, but that's not.

26:57

Always seemed like a late at night podcast

27:00

to me.

27:00

Oh I wish it was, honestly,

27:03

I would enjoy I should actually

27:06

we should meet it like two in the morning.

27:08

Then too,

27:12

that would you guys like get on

27:14

the trains and commute.

27:16

Actually, that would be a great comment

27:18

section is what time of day would

27:21

be ideal for people to call, because

27:23

then we could just book an episode,

27:26

like say for Australia

27:28

or for the UK. We do

27:31

a special recording.

27:33

Shill does need more accents,

27:35

it does exact send it over

27:38

the top.

27:38

I know, and it used to have more.

27:41

I know some people said they had trouble calling

27:43

internationally, though I know that some

27:45

got through, so I don't

27:47

know, but it would be fun to facilitate

27:49

an international community

27:52

here on the pod. And

27:54

who are you?

27:54

I mean, I'm from New York. That's like a

27:57

different part of the world.

27:58

Do you like canned peaches?

28:01

I'm not a fan of caneach. I'm not really a fan of

28:04

canned fruit.

28:04

Yeah, obviously, yeah,

28:08

I mean that would be a classic take. We

28:12

just had a collar, just had a collar

28:14

who hates tahini and loves

28:16

canned peaches? Like, can I tell

28:18

you back when I was dating if someone said

28:21

that to me, I think

28:23

that would be like truly,

28:25

I don't think I could continue.

28:27

I don't want to beat that Greek

28:29

food sauce. It's like the white sauce.

28:32

No, no, no, no, honey,

28:34

Oh

28:38

my god, that's

28:41

said you're.

28:42

Thinking of, Oh, you're thinking of garlic sauce.

28:45

It's all the same.

28:47

But literally, it's reminded me when I was like

28:49

dating in New York. I went on a date with

28:51

this guy who loved yam

28:53

fries and

28:57

yes, he

29:00

called them fries. But anyways, at

29:02

the time, I really hated sweet potato fries.

29:05

I've now actually turned around that

29:07

opinion, as many of my opinions turned around.

29:10

I actually do love sweet potato

29:12

fries dipped in ranch dressing.

29:16

I mean, I also like sweet potato

29:18

fries, but I just feel like there's usually so many of

29:20

them, like they're not like a replacement for French

29:22

fries, like taste wise, Like I could

29:24

handle like six of them, and it's like that's

29:27

a good experience, but I don't need.

29:29

Like McDonald's,

29:31

are you are you saying

29:34

that if you had them, are you describing

29:36

them with ranch? No,

29:39

I'm not that that's the difference.

29:41

Maybe that changes

29:43

everything.

29:44

Okay, I'll try it next time I go to like.

29:47

Yeah, okay, thanks, McDonald's.

29:49

Yeah, thanks. I don't know if

29:51

McDonald's does that. But

29:55

yeah, something I'm kind of into right now

29:57

is a tuna melt with sweet potato fries.

30:00

Ranch. Is it healthy? Is it a diet

30:02

food?

30:03

No?

30:03

You know what I was thinking, it's funny, a lot of fringe

30:06

comfort food.

30:07

Yeah, okay, So you know how

30:09

everyone in LA is on ozempic, Like

30:12

everyone like you, just like it'll

30:14

be like your librarian and they're on like

30:18

the gas station guys on ozembic here.

30:21

Yeah, Like there's no stone unturned for

30:23

the ozempic industry. Everyone you see you're

30:25

like, oh my, you've lost twenty pounds. You've

30:27

lost twenty pounds. I was seeking it'd

30:29

be funny if I like went to a party and I

30:31

was like, oh my god, you're not on ozempic. It's

30:35

actually so immediately visually apparent,

30:37

like I actually feel like the last girl

30:39

in LA who like eats.

30:41

Food and who what

30:43

is it?

30:43

What does it look like? It's just a pill.

30:45

It's an injection. It's an

30:47

injection.

30:48

So the crazy thing is

30:51

is you have to inject yourself every single

30:54

week. So like someone

30:56

I was talking to is like they're

30:58

rotating quadrants of their stomach of oh

31:00

god, it really made it real for me, Like

31:02

that is that's intense, like

31:05

when.

31:05

It gives you like diarrhea apparently too.

31:08

I know no one's really talking about that part anymore,

31:11

but like just thinking about injecting

31:13

yourself every week and having bruises on

31:15

your body all always like.

31:17

How is this different from shooting up

31:19

like meth in your arm or whatever? And how meth is

31:21

taken?

31:22

But you know what I'm saying this is you don't

31:24

know how meth has taken.

31:26

Methamphetamine comes in several forms

31:28

and can be smoked, snorted, injected,

31:31

or orally ingested. According to the

31:33

NIH the.

31:34

Thing that's like shot up in your arm, I don't know, but that's like insane

31:36

to me that you're.

31:38

Color how is meth taken? I thought it was snorted.

31:41

I never did meth.

31:42

I never did it either.

31:43

I don't know. But are you guys talking about.

31:47

Yeah, meth ozempic Marie Condo

31:51

Willow Smith, Right, well, I'm

31:54

do you have diarrhea right now?

31:56

Do you often have it?

32:01

More so?

32:02

I have diabetes?

32:03

Okay when

32:06

I used to take.

32:08

So you actually need the drug. You're not one of the people

32:10

just taking it to get really thin, really quick.

32:12

You're diabetic, king as I will, but

32:15

I.

32:15

Am also taking it to do that, okay,

32:17

gotcha, love, It's okay because

32:19

yeah, okay.

32:22

Back to the diarrhea.

32:23

It's helpful for me, yes, but

32:25

back.

32:25

To the diarrhea.

32:27

You were saying something, but yeah, I

32:29

used to take a medicaid and called met

32:31

foreman.

32:32

That's really common, Yeah, diabetes,

32:34

and that gave me diarhet

32:37

basically like every day for years.

32:41

Jesus the dream,

32:43

just kidding about it.

32:44

Yeah, I didn't even't really care that much.

32:46

I don't know. It controlled my uh

32:49

blood sugar, so that was more important

32:51

to.

32:51

Me, right.

32:52

Oh.

32:53

You know what's funny is when you

32:55

go to the public restroom, like or at

32:57

a restaurant and someone comes out of

32:59

the stall and you can tell they just ship by

33:01

the facial expression. Today,

33:03

I went to breakfast and a

33:05

week where both the bathrooms were occupied,

33:07

and this guy as he came out, he was like

33:10

kind of cool looking, and as he came out,

33:12

he looked at me and then looked down and then had

33:14

to like kind of walk out a certain way. But

33:17

I'd like to do like just

33:19

a one woman clown show, you know, because

33:21

the clowning is big now in La I want to get

33:23

on on that. I want to do a clown

33:25

show at where at the

33:28

Allesion or what's that other

33:30

one, the Hyperion.

33:33

My show will be just different

33:35

people walking out of a bathroom door who

33:37

just shat, and different like physicalizations

33:39

of that.

33:41

All that note. Yes, the thing I hate

33:43

top three pet peeves is when someone

33:46

takes a shit in the bathroom and then I have to go in

33:48

after it, and then when I.

33:50

Come out, I.

33:53

Know it was that guy.

33:54

There should be a certain thing you

33:57

can say yes where

33:59

you're like me was one before?

34:01

The ship was one before?

34:02

Yeah, I know, and you know what this guy when I

34:04

went into his credit, you know

34:07

he's a keeper, this guy because to his

34:09

credit he had incense blaring.

34:12

Praise in the window.

34:14

The window was open and it actually

34:16

smelled so good. I almost wanted to deeply inhale.

34:20

He Yeah. I

34:22

don't want to shit in public.

34:24

The solid ship particles entering my lungs

34:26

makes me want to die.

34:26

Oh you hold your breath. I try to, but

34:29

it's hard. It's hard.

34:31

Now.

34:31

I used to never sit on a public toilet,

34:34

and you don't ever.

34:36

Well, I put the toilet paper down. Well, you don't have

34:38

to I have to take a ship.

34:40

But now I'm sort of starting to be like, maybe that's

34:42

too germ freaking. I don't know. I always used to

34:45

like I still do this, lay toilet

34:47

paper down or lay whatever. But anyway,

34:50

the thing is, what

34:54

is the least suspicious

34:56

way to have your face look if you just shat

34:59

in a public bathroom and coming out, And

35:02

what is the best way to indicate it was the

35:04

person before you? But also maybe

35:06

you should just say that if you just shot you

35:08

go, oh, I know it stinks in there. As the person before.

35:10

Me, I started saying it.

35:11

What if they were like, I've been watching this room, I've

35:14

been watching the job. You're the only

35:16

person who's gone in there.

35:18

You're like, I was just on my phone for twenty minutes.

35:20

I promise I wouldn't do anything.

35:24

You've got to just not have shame about it

35:26

and just not feel anything about it,

35:28

and then you'll look less suspicious.

35:30

Yeah, Like if you're just like, hey, how are you

35:32

when you're exiting the bathroom?

35:34

How's a smile? That

35:37

is so.

35:39

That is so

35:41

uncomfortable. It's

35:44

somehow like evolving someone

35:46

in your intimate shit ritual. If

35:49

you come out of the bathroom and you're like, hey,

35:52

how are you doing, like

35:54

to a stranger, and then they have to walk into

35:56

your.

35:56

Oh my god, or

36:00

you like hold hands and your eyes.

36:02

Yeah, it's like making it an intimate connection

36:05

point.

36:06

I mean they're about to smell your ship, so it's already Yeah, you.

36:08

Might as well, or or you

36:10

go, my name's Chelseatte.

36:14

You'll never guess.

36:15

Hi, my name's Chelsea Pretti. That

36:18

smell that you're about to smell was

36:20

the person before me.

36:21

Yes, they're totally going to believe

36:23

you. Totally going to believe you.

36:26

Do you know, like how people in like New

36:28

York or something, if they were deaf, they would hand

36:30

you a paper that's like I'm deaf and what

36:32

have you? Hands on paper and you're like, the

36:34

ship smell was the person before me. So

36:40

now you're on ozem b o

36:42

zem furst. Do

36:44

you ship more often or

36:48

because you're like the other medication

36:51

more often than well, that's a

36:54

good question, like since you're eating less, do you

36:56

just do you just ship one like

36:58

her? She's kiss a week. The

37:05

shape of that promotion for

37:08

Crumbs.

37:09

Don't talk about it, don't talk about the book.

37:11

Crumbs. Speaking of crumbs, that's what he's shipping

37:14

on. You just go

37:16

to poop and it just dust comes out.

37:20

How would you guys want to do Passover

37:23

food?

37:24

Sure you're

37:26

not Jewish though, right, but I know all about it.

37:30

I know the Jewish food latsa.

37:32

Matsa obviously not good.

37:35

Was a.

37:37

You know Jews were in flight. I

37:41

literally just like learned this last

37:43

night. Anyway,

37:49

But let me tell you something. Here's I have to say,

37:52

though, I have to qualify that matsa with heros

37:54

it and horse radish

37:57

is delicious.

37:58

And with chicken liver, well.

38:01

Yeah, I mean, way to spoil

38:03

the next question.

38:05

I kind of I kind of thought I might be doing

38:07

that, and I have to say I don't care.

38:10

I want to keep the show moving. No,

38:13

listen, you're like, no, I'm going to break

38:15

Herosa down into apples and

38:17

green and walnut Listen.

38:21

I love herosid. I think

38:23

Herosi should be made year round. And

38:26

in fact, what I've started doing as a snack

38:29

is a handful of walnuts and an apple because

38:31

it kind of conjures HEROSI.

38:34

Do you like Herosa great? The

38:36

author of pri author of Crumbs

38:39

has weighed in and it's

38:43

a win. Shrill, but shrill

38:47

and in the wrong location on the board. But

38:49

other than that, what a dang All

38:51

right, sir, what's your next question on

38:55

Satyr Foods Parsley

38:59

dip in salt.

39:04

Listen, I'm not a big old Mats of baal freak.

39:06

I will say last night's was good, and it

39:08

was apparently from Canters, But

39:13

I don't like go as we know I as

39:15

some may know, I don't. I Actually,

39:17

I'm I'm realizing having now I've just

39:19

now listened to a few podcasts. I never

39:21

usually listened to them, and I'm

39:23

realizing how fucking arrogant and out

39:26

of touch people sound like they don't

39:28

know, Like it's transparent. When

39:30

you're like trying to compliment yourself,

39:33

you're acting like you're the king of the world. Like

39:35

it's obnoxious and you have

39:38

no checkpoint for that. In

39:40

a podcast realm, you're

39:43

just talking into a mic. It's like everyone's king

39:45

of comedy. You know, everyone's like in

39:47

their basement losing their mind. Anyway, the

39:52

last.

39:53

Time, both

39:55

Lots of Milk, Lots of Ball is

39:58

bad and the one that.

39:59

I oh no, I love Mats of Ball soup, and

40:01

the last time I had it was at Langer's with my

40:03

friend after I picked him up from his kolonoscopy,

40:06

and Lots of Soup is like the perfect thing

40:08

to eat after that because it's gentle. I

40:11

love soup.

40:12

Yeah, Langers.

40:15

I mean, listen, I think it's good, but

40:17

I think it's kind of mid like. I feel

40:20

like it's hyped up in a way that only

40:22

soup levers can understand. And I'm definitely

40:24

not a soup levere. On record

40:27

boring texture, Lots of Ball is a little

40:29

better because you got the little yeah

40:36

what else? So parsley and salt. I'm not that

40:38

fun of it. Color

40:41

are you done?

40:42

Oh yeah? That was actually the last one,

40:44

and I think it is good.

40:46

You do like that?

40:47

I think the bitters in salt

40:49

water that's crazy.

40:51

You're now, you're just conditioned to buy your culture.

40:54

Yeah, I never heard of that one.

40:56

You haven't. It's just thing

40:58

you dip it in there to remind you of the here.

41:02

I don't know. I mean, it's fine, but I'm never going to

41:04

be eating that year round. I'm

41:06

not going to have a big old bull of salty

41:08

parsley.

41:09

Sprinkle it on a dish, maybe not eat it

41:11

by itself.

41:12

M h all right, yeah,

41:15

well okay, thanks, yeah, all

41:17

right, he's going to

41:19

count his chips woll episode.

41:21

Yeah well yeah, all right. Well

41:25

here we are. We're in the thick of

41:27

it. How do you think it's going so far?

41:30

I think it's pretty great. We've had like a few nuggets,

41:32

like no collar has been like perfect.

41:34

Well, that's just the nature. That's the we're in the

41:36

belly of the beast.

41:37

Is this is your job is very difficult.

41:39

I see.

41:40

Wait, you had some pet peeves. Do

41:42

you remember any of what they were?

41:46

Oh?

41:46

People who chew? Wow, you

41:48

have me. Cannot listen to

41:50

someone chewing makes me want to die. All that ASMR

41:53

stuff for people chewing on YouTube makes me

41:55

makes my skin crawl off. Yeah.

41:58

I have trouble with chewing too, however,

42:01

been chewing on the pot of it, been

42:04

chewing on the pod.

42:05

As long as you keep your mouth closed, that's fine.

42:07

Some people. I mean, I know

42:10

Rick Lassman, we've been circling

42:12

each other's podcasts and things

42:15

here and there online, and he has

42:17

that misophonia too. And I

42:19

was in his comments talking

42:23

about even when someone's mouth has closed, there's

42:25

those rubbery internal mouth sounds.

42:27

Some people the just

42:30

the sound of a tongue moving. It's

42:32

like a washing machine, just moving food.

42:34

Around in there, just just

42:38

mastigations.

42:39

Why do some people chew in such

42:41

like? Why are some people chewing?

42:44

What's your earliest memory of hating chewing?

42:47

Oh? God, I think people

42:49

like in in like elementary school, like

42:51

eating chips and just hearing the like because

42:53

people would crunch them with their mouth open.

42:55

It would just like sound like nails on a chalkboard.

42:58

I want to be like, close.

42:58

Your I don't mind a crunchy

43:01

chew as much as I mind a wet

43:03

chew, a rubbery chew. Yeah,

43:06

And I'll tell you one thing I don't care for. Someone's

43:08

sucking on a water bottle, you know that has like the

43:10

nipple tip and the o they

43:14

chug the water down and then their lips

43:17

suck off the top.

43:17

Of those sports bottles.

43:19

Are It's gross. It's

43:21

like, come on now, put

43:23

that behind you.

43:25

Also, have you ever looked at yourself when you're drinking

43:27

a water bottle? It is the worst face.

43:29

There's no need to do that.

43:31

I can't. I can't even think about anybody

43:33

looking at me.

43:34

I got these ones at ari I. One of my favorite

43:36

shopping experiences been

43:39

to both Burbank and what

43:42

you might call it, where is that other one?

43:44

Arcadia?

43:45

Okay, they're both great.

43:47

Am I like the Arcadia one a little bit

43:49

better.

43:52

I mean Burbank doesn't scream Woodlands

43:55

are.

43:56

They're both absolutely amazing and

43:59

I've actually now I follow one

44:01

of the brands that it's

44:04

called like se to Summit. They

44:08

have the best designed

44:11

like camping stuff. Anyway, anyone

44:14

who travels a lot, even if you're staying in hotels,

44:16

I think you could benefit from a trip to ARII.

44:19

Why am I doing an ad right now? And I get no

44:21

money for anything I do.

44:23

I mean, I'm not a camper, but I love their But

44:25

I am a fair skinned individual. So I have a

44:28

hat with like a little mullet that goes across back

44:30

my neckwhere it's great.

44:31

Yes, there's lots of stuff like that, Yeah

44:35

stuff. Yeah, I could get into it more, but I

44:37

won't. But why am

44:39

I talking about ARII? Oh

44:43

that's right, sucking off nipple water

44:45

balls. The people who choose

44:47

to do that in their adult life because

44:50

they are driven by their subconscious

44:52

in a way that we all have to deal with. Listen.

44:55

I also hate when people hum, and

44:57

I hate when they yell. When they yawn, Yeah,

45:00

are people who need something that they're

45:02

asking and begging for.

45:03

A yell

45:06

when they yawn, It's

45:10

like, please.

45:12

Don't bring me into your world.

45:15

I don't need to feel how tired

45:17

you are in that way. Humming

45:20

same thing. I'm like, I don't want to be in your mood.

45:23

It's like, also, everyone's music

45:26

taste is shitty compared to everyone else. I don't want

45:28

to hear it.

45:28

And humming is just not often

45:30

an enjoyable sound. So it's just like do

45:32

it on your U time anyway.

45:35

The water bottles that I got from ARII

45:37

have a little pop up straw, but it's not

45:40

like round, it's a square

45:42

plastic straw. Listen. I

45:44

gotta tell you, I don't know what happened, but yesterday

45:47

all this anti plastic stuff was popping

45:49

up in my Instagram. I don't know if it was like an Earth

45:52

Day.

45:53

I don't know what it was.

45:53

It was it Yeah, yeah, okay,

45:56

So I just I find it

45:58

so overwhelmed to try to

46:01

think about not using plastic

46:03

in my life. Yeah, I'm addicted

46:05

to ziploc bags. I've tried

46:08

alternates to that. Alternatives

46:10

they're not great. I've tried

46:13

alternatives to surround. They're not great,

46:15

Like the wax paper and it just comes

46:17

off, you know, I try.

46:19

You know what.

46:19

The thing that I think is the best for kitchens is glass,

46:22

like those old what

46:24

are those, like fifties kind of colorful

46:27

glass containers, like.

46:29

The type of were like the corning wear.

46:31

Not the cornerwhere I forget.

46:33

I do have metal and glass

46:35

straws, and they're fine. Why

46:39

can't you just put it in the dishwasher.

46:41

I don't have a dishwasher or soak it,

46:43

but you still have to use a little pipe cleaner

46:45

thing to.

46:46

Like what do you what are you sucking through it?

46:49

Like a milkshake or something, or like a protein

46:51

like a shaken I

46:53

don't use straws. I just drink the damn thing because it's

46:55

like it's too much anyway.

46:57

I think that plastic.

47:00

There's a lot of stuff that just feels insurmountable.

47:02

I would love it, like you know, like I feel

47:04

like la when they stopped doing bags, well, for

47:06

example, my beloved ARII, they don't do bags,

47:09

and I like was going to buying like

47:11

so much shit for a camping trip, and

47:13

they're like, we don't have bags, and I'm

47:15

like, uh, what do

47:18

I do now? And

47:20

so they had like some cardboard boxes and stuff.

47:22

But I just think, like the whole

47:24

we're so addicted and so stuck

47:27

in consumption that it's very hard

47:29

to envision alternate

47:33

plans. But I am so thankful when

47:35

someone does, or when like California

47:38

tries, you know, like when you

47:40

know I've talked about this before, but like, do

47:43

you compost? Do you have like the city composting?

47:46

Because I live I

47:52

live in a building where they don't supply

47:54

the composting.

47:55

You're a bad person. I am so

47:58

well, it

48:00

is so loud and this

48:02

is going on.

48:03

I cannot Are you composts?

48:06

Oh something?

48:08

Yeah?

48:08

I mean I just think that's the kind of stuff

48:11

that I'm appreciative of, is these kinds

48:13

of initiatives. And the only reason I compost is

48:15

because the city of Los Angeles gave me a

48:17

compost bucket. And at

48:20

first I was like this is crazy, like

48:23

like there were flies born in our

48:25

compost, But then you learn, oh, you put like leaves

48:27

from the yard over it, and then

48:30

I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so much

48:32

food waste that would have just been in a landfill

48:34

creating methane or something.

48:36

I guess I don't know, but I'm like, if

48:38

it doesn't it breaks down naturally, isn't It's gonna

48:40

go away?

48:42

Hello?

48:44

Hello?

48:45

Hi? Do you know that

48:47

Marie Condo through in the towel?

48:49

Probably eight years ago? And Willow Smith had

48:51

a cool song eight years ago?

48:54

Oh god, wh

48:58

no whip?

49:00

No, wait a minute, look

49:03

up this song.

49:03

Wait a minute, my hair?

49:06

Oh no, yeah, I'm sorry.

49:07

You're right.

49:07

You got confused with do the na I

49:09

don't know if that's the name of the song.

49:11

Was that even Willis Smith?

49:13

No, she did the with

49:15

my hair?

49:16

She did that. That was her. Well,

49:19

I think this is a real departure from that, because

49:24

while she does talk about her hair, and the

49:26

song actually a little bit like a real departure.

49:28

It's a real tune. I've I've

49:31

I've been seeking kind of. I'm

49:33

actually thrilled that you know the song

49:35

so intimately with my hair?

49:38

No, oh, wait a minute.

49:40

Wait a minute, I know both

49:42

of them.

49:42

To her, to her of, I know both

49:45

songs. Really, well, call.

49:47

Her what can we do you

49:49

for? I'm here with Ben

49:51

mister ma'am. He

49:54

Ben is a food connoisseur.

49:57

So when you make up a recipe, oh why

49:59

why is it perfect?

50:01

Okay? So I a

50:03

while back in the podcast, you were talking about lemon

50:06

pasta yes or something yes,

50:09

and I'd never really experienced

50:11

that, so I tried to whip some up. I just looked up

50:13

some recipe and you know, it

50:15

was okay. But I think my girlfriend I were both

50:18

slightly underwhelmed, and

50:20

I just wanted to check in to see, you

50:23

know, maybe how you do it, and

50:25

you know if maybe being underwhelmed it's

50:28

supposed to be the experience.

50:31

Well, I think that you're underwhelmed

50:33

by your own cooking. That's the

50:36

simplest, yeah part of it. But listen,

50:38

I think that, you know, today

50:40

I just feel like I'm like trying to like be funny,

50:43

but I'm just being like mean to people and it's

50:45

not even funny. Anyways. Listen, I

50:48

think you should look up that guy, Frank

50:50

Prisiano or whatever, what is his last name?

50:52

Do you know him?

50:53

In New York.

50:54

He has a bunch of restaurants, Frank Supper.

50:58

I think Supper is his. Maybe it's not Frank

51:05

prison Zano okay, yeah,

51:09

and look up spaghetti. Oh yeah,

51:11

so look up Frank p R I

51:14

s I N Z A n

51:16

O spaghetti.

51:18

Lemone that

51:20

I'm actually at my computer.

51:21

Okay, this is this is the

51:23

one to do. Okay, don't

51:25

do some TikTok. I see TikTok lemon

51:28

pasta under it. Don't listen

51:30

to these heathens with no cooking

51:33

background.

51:34

They're like, I put corn flakes in my spaghetti

51:37

as a finishing, and I know it sounds crazy,

51:39

but you're gonna love it.

51:40

It's like, don't.

51:41

Trust me, it's so good.

51:43

It's really good. Where are you

51:45

based. I'll give it another shot where

51:47

you based?

51:49

Uh, Phoenix?

51:50

Okay, and use more salt than you think

51:52

you need to, that's always yeah, like.

51:54

More lemon, more salt, more parmesan.

51:58

I'm pretty sure he uses butter.

52:00

Oh yeah, yeah, and that was

52:02

you know, I did some oil, and I think maybe butter

52:04

would have plussed it up a little.

52:06

I think the butter and lemon combines.

52:08

Well.

52:08

I mean, I listen, I'm someone who is actually

52:10

quite a convert away from butter in general,

52:13

Like my family

52:17

cooks with more olive oil. And now

52:20

when I go out and restaurants

52:22

are just so butter dominant because

52:25

people like the taste of butter. So it's just

52:27

an easy, cheap trick to get people

52:29

like to say your food is good in my opinion.

52:32

You tell me what you think. But

52:34

when you eat buttery food, it

52:37

is I can feel it. It almost

52:39

feels like I'm gonna sweat butter. You

52:41

could like take a butter knife to my skin

52:43

and butter bread with it after I eat butter.

52:46

Whereas when you eat olive oil based

52:48

food, it can be very creamy,

52:50

very delicious, but you

52:52

just don't feel that heaviness in your

52:54

body afterwards. And a lot of times I wish

52:56

restaurants would offer olive

52:59

oil based pasta dishes.

53:02

I wish that was like just like

53:04

there was whole wheat pasta. I actually do like whole

53:06

wheat pasta, which I know, well,

53:09

listen, I have high cholesterol, Okay,

53:11

we have. There's health issues

53:13

in my family in which that was recommended.

53:16

There's not all the brands are the same,

53:19

but there is a brand that does

53:22

very good whole wheat pasta, and I actually

53:24

enjoy the bite that it has, and

53:26

I enjoyed the nuttiness. And

53:28

you put a little pesto on there. It's delicious

53:31

and you don't feel brand. I

53:34

have to look it up.

53:35

The brand is.

53:36

But yeah, olive oil in sauce can

53:39

be so delicious and

53:41

butter can be overkill. But

53:43

in this case, y'all have y'all

53:46

have.

53:46

Jets pizza out there, hollyweird?

53:49

No, oh well, I

53:51

think it's like a Detroit chain. It's kind of like a you

53:53

know, like a pan style square

53:55

pizza sort of thing, and

53:58

it's really good. But I was eating someone

54:00

and it is just buttery.

54:02

Me and mister Mims. Me and

54:04

mister Mims are doing a lot of like

54:06

judgmental head tilting

54:10

every time colers say everything. We're like in

54:13

Unison, tilting our heads with judgment.

54:16

It's really bonding. No, I don't know. I can't

54:19

say that that's my favorite type of pizza.

54:21

And also controversially, I don't

54:23

even think pizza is that good A lot

54:25

of times. I'll tell you one of my favorite

54:27

pizzas here. I don't know if Moza still

54:30

does it, but it was a lemon pizza surprise

54:32

Surprise. It

54:35

had thinly sliced lemon, crispy

54:38

capers, tomato,

54:41

and I don't even think it has cheese.

54:44

It was delicious.

54:47

My big take on pizza is that like fancy

54:49

pizza is not I mean you just describe

54:51

pizza with lemon and capers.

54:52

That was fancy pizza maybe.

54:54

What I'm talking about, But it's

54:56

usually not as good as

54:58

just like down the middle kind

55:01

of pizza. Like I feel like it's one of those things that like

55:03

kind of like a burger, where like if you elevate it too

55:05

much, you're getting too.

55:06

Far away from I don't know about that.

55:08

What is good about it?

55:09

I don't know about that. I do feel that way about ice

55:11

cream sandwiches. I do feel

55:13

that way about grilled cheese, even

55:17

often mac and cheese. I'm I

55:19

don't know, it depends, but pizza,

55:22

I think the thing about like cheap pizza,

55:24

there's a huge variety there. First of all, like

55:27

there is like classic like Joe's

55:29

in La is like good, right,

55:33

but then you have pizzai essay or

55:35

I haven't tried quarter sheets yet.

55:37

I want for Chelsea's assistant,

55:39

she definitely has tried quarter sheets

55:41

on one occasion.

55:42

It's like fancy pizza.

55:44

Yeah, but then like you know, like sometimes

55:46

cheap pizza has like too much cheese

55:48

or like a really bad tomato sauce

55:50

or you know there's yeah

55:53

that can be just as bad as fancy pizza.

55:55

You know, I yeah for

55:57

sure, And like like I had pizza Red

55:59

Rabbit and a few weeks ago or

56:01

like I don't know, and it was like Nancy,

56:08

Yeah, they call it Donato's

56:11

the sound fancy, but it's like kitchen

56:13

upon crackers.

56:13

It's bad.

56:16

But I have a question.

56:18

Hold on pause, Laura, I

56:21

have a question for you. Why

56:23

is the controls to all the audio

56:26

just out of your reach? Is there

56:28

any reason you organized

56:31

the direction of the podcast to

56:33

be just out of your own reach? Because

56:37

it's I just realized that when I

56:39

ask you, like if a caller is super loud,

56:41

and I'm like, can you turn them down, You're leaning

56:43

like as if it's just the hardest thing in

56:45

the world, and I'm like, wait, Ostensibly

56:48

that little control panel could just be

56:50

slid towards you and actually enable

56:53

constant monitoring of the levels

56:56

in a way that would be so helpful. I

57:01

think adult life is just about trying

57:04

to create systems all the time, like

57:06

being having

57:08

any kind of career, having a home, Like

57:10

everything's about like how do I refine a

57:13

system and make it better, and I actually think I

57:15

could drive myself crazy. I'm

57:17

trying to be more like the people in the world

57:19

who don't care about things. I could just show

57:21

up, like go to a hike and they don't

57:24

have a water bottle and like, you

57:26

know, show up, and I feel like those people

57:28

just like fucking everything works out for them.

57:31

Yeah, smooth brains, it

57:34

would be nice.

57:35

Yeah anyway, I

57:38

yes, fancy pizza whatever. I'm not

57:40

even that into pizza I had. I

57:42

did like pizza. Rea say, I

57:45

want to try quarter sheets.

57:46

Chelsea's assistant would like to add that the

57:48

pizza was great.

57:49

These are la places. I actually do like

57:51

deep dish.

57:53

Yeah, I like that. I feel

57:56

like fancy pizza is like it's always so like

57:58

thin that and you they do like a

58:00

lot of wood fired stuff. You end up just eating

58:03

like.

58:03

Black charred, but

58:06

you don't have to eat that.

58:07

I'm picking off

58:09

burnt stuff like.

58:11

You know, no, but I don't usually eat tons

58:13

of crust. Is

58:17

that offensive? Like if you're a pizza maker,

58:19

are you like offended if people leave

58:21

all their crust? But it's

58:24

just like empty cows. I need the I

58:26

need the ingredients. My friend sent me

58:28

this pizza maker I think he's in Australia

58:30

who is so mortally offended by

58:33

all the comments and his thing, and he's like, you

58:35

know, you're saying my pizza is burnt, but he's

58:37

not. Look look at his crust

58:39

and he's cutting it. And I'm like, God, the Internet

58:41

is driving everyone mad. It's

58:44

just like professionals, people who put so much

58:46

time into something and then anyone can just

58:49

say, looks burnt.

58:50

You know. It's like we also just

58:52

because you put time and efforts on it doesn't make it's good.

58:55

Well, his pizza did look good, and

58:57

it made me think about that dad like in

59:00

the early Internet who was defending

59:02

his daughter who was crying and he's like, what

59:05

did he say? Consequences will

59:07

never be the same or something.

59:10

Do you remember this? He had like a mustache

59:12

and his daughter he's like crying because people are

59:14

bullying her and he's like yelling at the Internet

59:17

and he's like, looks like yosemite. Sam.

59:21

He's like, you're done, goofed. Do

59:23

you remember that early

59:26

early Internet? He's like, you done, goofed?

59:28

You messed with the wrong person or something.

59:30

Consequences will never be the same,

59:32

and it's like it's so futile to fight

59:35

back to the Internet, like they always

59:37

will win. It's just like Hollywood, like you cannot

59:39

game the system of Hollywood. It

59:41

doesn't matter how creative you are, it doesn't

59:44

matter how outside the box you are.

59:46

Hollywood is like this crazy

59:48

infrastructure that just keeps rolling

59:51

forward without you. Anyway.

59:54

I hope this is inspiring for

59:56

all the aspiring actors.

59:59

Well, I I think I

1:00:01

have to go. I've got to get back to work.

1:00:02

Love it, love the color

1:00:05

that has to go.

1:00:08

And I have to I have to go

1:00:10

to Well Beautiful.

1:00:13

It's like the hearts on the What would.

1:00:15

You like people to know about your book? When does

1:00:17

it come out? What are your thoughts

1:00:19

on la food?

1:00:22

Very small genres

1:00:25

to get into Crumbs is the name

1:00:27

of the book. It comes out in October.

1:00:29

Uh.

1:00:30

If you follow me on Instagram, I'll post about it in June.

1:00:32

Your instagram is ben b Mimes

1:00:35

correct ben b Memes.

1:00:36

Follow me there and I'll post about it

1:00:38

then. And other things I have working on as

1:00:41

well, all food cookbook things.

1:00:43

I'm going to have to dig around and see if I still have

1:00:45

any citrus compute.

1:00:49

I'll make some new I'll make some new stuff with fresh

1:00:51

oranges that aren't.

1:00:53

The thing is I don't eat that much jam anymore.

1:00:55

Yeah, but I do. But it's

1:00:57

also but also mine has like a

1:00:59

lot less sugar than must. So you can. So I put

1:01:02

like a half a cup on a piece of toast.

1:01:03

I like you do that,

1:01:06

and it's you're done.

1:01:07

I love when people put less sugar

1:01:09

and.

1:01:09

Stuff just because it tastes better,

1:01:11

yes, not because trying to be healthy.

1:01:16

Well, listen, it was a pleasure to have you.

1:01:18

Thank you, glad it worked out.

1:01:21

Get out?

1:01:24

Oh I listened to a two chain song, there

1:01:28

was another. Listen to the tugi chain in

1:01:30

this song. Listen

1:01:33

to the tugi chay in this song, Drive

1:01:36

Around the Other Night, an old classic

1:01:39

Drive around the other night felt

1:01:41

fantastic. Revisited an old

1:01:44

an old old, old class class

1:01:46

class class old classic drive

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around the other night felt fantastic.

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Driving around the other night felt

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fantastic. But oh,

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fuck you being our teas

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and all.

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Listen to the tug chain in this song.

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Listen to the tug chay in this song,

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Drive out around the other Night, Drive

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out around the other night. Listen

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to the tug Chay. In this song Drive

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Out Around the Other Night revisited

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an old, an old, old,

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old class class class, class class.

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Mister Mims, mistel mims,

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my jam my jam.

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Mister Mims, mister mister

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Mims, mhm, mister

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misterms fistels.

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My damn my jam,

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mister Mimes, mister mister

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Mimes, m.

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Mister mens.

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Misters. Please, mister

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Mems, please approach the stand

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now, mister Mems, is it true

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that you spend upwards of one

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hour making your gem?

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Me, miss mister

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Mems. Now

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now, mister Minton, mis