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Welcome. Do

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call Chelsey Brady the Reboot.

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We have a jam packed episode for you

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today. I can't lie.

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I am not so uncomfortable

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lying. I'm not even like a

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real big lie biomission

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type of gal. So here's

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the deal. This episode is

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now long, steroids

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its segments, guess

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video clips. What do we have today for

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you? Well, I'll tell you what we have. We have

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an m u a a Moah makeup

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artist. Did you know that wah

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is makeup artist? It is.

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It's a little Hollywood lengo for

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you makeup artists to the stars. Okay,

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we're gonna examine some TikTok

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makeup trends. Are they go?

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Are they bad? Are they stupid? Are they acidine?

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We don't know because we're also stupid.

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But we're gonna try to unpack it and we're

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gonna try to saying what's going on. We're gonna try

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to see what's viral and what is made up

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fake viral things that I made up to

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try to trick this makeup artist. We

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are a medical

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professional coming in, Well she's

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not coming in, she's actually on

1:26

video. We are

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talking across

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the pond to a

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medical professional about skin. Skin

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yeah, and some of the things that can go wrong,

1:40

very very wrong in fact, to the point where

1:42

it was absolutely upsetting.

1:46

We all saw on the agenda, hem

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a baker.

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There's what people do for stand up there, like comedian.

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So what if I say for baker, we

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have a bakerrette. We have a bake

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stress coming into

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this studio. We're

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gonna do an in studio taste

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test, what food test

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of three different baked goods

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and see which one is the best

2:14

and why. So that's kind of the lay

2:17

of the land. So buckle

2:19

up. What

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world? Okay?

2:28

So Nova's a makeup artist to the

2:30

stars. First of all, we met two

2:33

dms. No, we did. It's

2:35

also how I met my husband. Yeah,

2:38

you know, I believe in it.

2:42

Now, first of all, thanks for coming on the podcast.

2:44

We're gonna look at some TikTok makeup

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trends. I

2:49

brought some. I went through TikTok

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and I looked at some of these trends and I was going to ask

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you about them. You tell me if you think this is a real

2:55

trend or a fake trend, and describe what you think the

2:57

trend is. Okay, punking your

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makeup?

3:01

Oh it sounds so stupid that I feel like

3:03

it has to be real. But okay,

3:07

cloud skin, I'm gonna go

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no, only because I feel, oh

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I'm wrong, it's real.

3:14

Cloud skin just means Matt wait

3:16

what it's just it means

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like there's a lot of people predicting trends

3:21

beyond twenty, you know whatever. They're

3:24

like, what's next, and they're like, no more

3:27

dewey skin. Yeah, no more dewey skin. And

3:30

that's called cloud skin. It's not called clouds.

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It is TikTok is wrong because

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you think the clouds would be like sheer coverage like

3:38

that.

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Or you'd think it would be dewey because they're

3:40

literally clouds are made out of dew

3:43

Yeah,

3:45

so cloud skin is real. Unapproachable

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makeup. Oh that's real.

3:50

I know that's real, which just means

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like like sexy makeup.

3:54

It's so stupid because the final look,

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I was like, it just looks like absolutely nothing.

3:59

It's just make.

4:00

It's just well it's like a just a smoky

4:02

eye and like a like.

4:04

Literally you could wear it to the office. It made no sense,

4:07

like unapproachable. I was like, this is just

4:10

everyone's an ad man now, everyone's

4:12

just shilling product and

4:15

these look names are absolute proof

4:17

of that latte makeup. We're

4:19

doing that today. We're doing that today and it

4:21

is real.

4:22

Was that like a too soon of

4:24

a reveal?

4:25

No, I think it's a perfect time. Okay, perfect.

4:27

We're only about halfway through our list, So

4:29

latte makeup is what we landed on. Because

4:32

we have coffee cranking through our cysts

4:34

here at the podcast. We're a coffee

4:37

based podcast. We all

4:39

know that this is a podcast that rides

4:41

or dies for coffee and all

4:43

coffee derivatives. So

4:46

we landed on the latte makeup, which

4:48

how would you describe it? It's browned,

4:51

right, brown makeup, So

4:53

we're doing it. It's gonna look like a smeared

4:55

duty all over myself.

4:57

It is because it's like that kind of brown.

4:59

Yeah, okay, so no makeup makeup

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of course, that was the original

5:03

dumb name for makeup, right, no makeup makeup,

5:05

which is like when guys are like, I don't

5:08

think girls with makeup, They're they're

5:10

liking no makeup makeup, Yeah,

5:12

idiots. Nineties lips

5:15

are back, yea brown liner,

5:17

nude lip gloss glass.

5:19

I am saying, like a resurgence of gloss, and I'm

5:21

so excited.

5:22

Loved glass remember lip glass mac Nightmare

5:25

but looked cool. There's shell awful.

5:27

Yeah yeah, and would always like explode

5:30

if I took it anywhere, like if

5:33

it goes on a flight, it is covering

5:35

and congealing everything in that bag.

5:37

Faux freckles. Do you do those? I can't.

5:39

What do you think about them? I

5:42

like them? I think they're cute.

5:45

I I struggle with like

5:47

for like a carpet, Say if I do them

5:49

dark enough for them to overpower

5:52

the like the crazy flash that's happening

5:54

on a carpet.

5:55

It's like theater makeup, you know, when

5:57

you're on stage. Theater makeups

6:00

on the back of the room, play.

6:02

To the back of the house. Listen. That was my calling

6:04

as a stand up. But yeah, like you

6:07

know a lot of like

6:09

theater stage makeup also looks insane

6:11

in person, but obviously if you're in a theater

6:14

space looks fine

6:16

in the audience. It's

6:18

all perspective. I guess that is what we're kind of trying

6:20

to get at all. Right,

6:22

So fluffy brows

6:24

are apparently on their way out, which thank goodness,

6:27

because I plucked mine

6:29

to the high heavens in the nineties.

6:31

I did too, and mine grew back somehow. Well

6:34

I want my back, and I you know, people

6:36

like cast No, you can get

6:38

you know, you can get a brow transplant. I

6:40

can't. I don't have it. Animation, I don't

6:43

have it. I barely have it in me to like just walk

6:45

my dog. Like, I can't get a brow transplant.

6:47

You just go to sleepwalls no

6:49

way, and then they'll be like ding, tiny

6:52

brows are in and I'm like, fuck, bald

6:55

on the back of my head with

6:59

fluff brows, and everyone's like, ew,

7:01

that's not what's tragedy. No,

7:05

my grandmother did though. Okay,

7:08

your redstine eye makeup was a big old

7:10

thing. Is that done now or I

7:12

feel like it's like still coming, still

7:14

raging? Okay, w blush,

7:17

that is very real. I call it sunburn blushed.

7:19

And you like that or not.

7:21

No.

7:21

I feel like if you do it too much, it just looks

7:23

like you're having an allergic reaction. But

7:27

if you do it like delicately, a little bit on the nose,

7:29

I think it's super cute.

7:30

The thing I really hate is when people treat

7:33

every face the same, yes, and they

7:35

do make up.

7:36

Artists who contour my nose how much. I'm like,

7:38

it's got shadow. Don't worry about that before.

7:42

But yeah, crying, Oh

7:44

my god, I can't believe this is going to turn into

7:46

an emotional revelation.

7:48

I you understand sarcasm, right,

7:51

I just I figured someone in

7:54

your.

7:54

Field of work would be able to get that. I'm

7:56

actually very gullible. Really

7:59

yeah, okay, wait, I'm still not done

8:01

here, So dog shit, make

8:04

that is? It's

8:06

an alternate name for what we're doing today.

8:08

Okay, okay, no that

8:10

is real. No it's not. Okay, yeah, it's fake.

8:13

I did make it up. Menstrual

8:15

glam,

8:19

that's vake. I

8:21

really believe it's real.

8:23

The fact that you weren't sure for so

8:25

long and trying to read my eyes is

8:28

such a testament to how far we've

8:31

fucking what do you call it?

8:33

Straight?

8:34

Yeah?

8:34

I mean menstrul glam.

8:37

Either you're using red tones

8:39

to conjure menstrual

8:42

fluids or I

8:44

mean, what else could it be? Menstrual glam

8:47

is just not Wow, you're

8:49

flushed.

8:50

I don't know. Okay, it's

8:52

fake, vanilla, madam,

8:56

I don't know it's

9:02

fake. Okay, all

9:04

right, that's enough. What have we learned there's

9:07

just anyone naming a trend

9:09

makes it a trend. I guess how many

9:11

followers do you need to to If

9:14

you name a trend, then it's real. Yeah,

9:18

it feels like that's kind of it.

9:20

This is outrageous. I cannot believe

9:22

this palette. She's a viral

9:25

TikToker. Of course she is.

9:27

The colors are like fart box and butt

9:29

trouble and

9:31

diarrhea and dingle well

9:33

played TikToker.

9:37

So I wore my brown shirt in

9:40

honor of this latte.

9:41

Look.

9:41

I love monochromatic clothes,

9:44

you know, like all browns and

9:46

yeah yeah, so to elevate

9:49

that to also make up, it's pretty

9:51

hardcore. All right, how's this latte

9:54

look coming along? This

9:57

is the real I look like Isabella

9:59

Rosselini. It's straight up good.

10:02

Something you would wear. I would, and

10:05

I think the shirt sells it. I think

10:07

without the shirt that would be it's

10:09

nothing. You'd be like, where's the makeup? And with

10:11

the shirt, it's like whoa, whoa,

10:14

whoa, whoa whoa A

10:16

lot of tame makeup. Yeah,

10:18

that's a lot of tame makeup. No, but thank

10:20

you. Okay,

10:25

Well that was pretty good. Right, I

10:27

think so. Tip

10:30

tap tip tip tap tip tap

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tip tip tap tip tap tip tip

10:35

tap.

10:36

Hey a little baby,

10:39

just a little baby, just a little

10:41

baby here,

10:49

okay.

10:53

One two three.

10:57

When I usually when I go one

11:00

two three, four,

11:04

five, six, seven

11:08

eight nine,

11:12

one two three,

11:15

come on, he always usually barks

11:18

one.

11:19

Two three,

11:23

four, five,

11:27

six, seven,

11:30

eight nine

11:33

ten.

11:42

God, I can't believe this is the most barking dog

11:45

and he won't bark on camera. Come

11:51

on, man, Oh

11:54

yeah, that's good. Okay,

11:59

okay, all right, all right,

12:02

now we got them. Okay, come here, come

12:05

here, come come

12:07

on. Well,

12:11

can't put that back in the bottle, folks, We

12:15

got it, okay,

12:19

all right, all right. Oh

12:24

hello, hello Douglas.

12:27

I'm good.

12:28

How are you?

12:30

My heart being on my chest like crazy?

12:32

What I heard.

12:34

Speaking on my chest like crazy? I've been trying to get a hold

12:36

of you. Yeah, I'm just a huge fan.

12:38

Oh my goodness. Well, welcome

12:42

you made it.

12:43

I did, Thank you.

12:45

Hold on, wait, I think there's a song that

12:51

speaks to our relationship. You wow,

13:01

unreal? Right, what

13:04

can I tell you? I'm taking calls kind of bridging

13:06

the gap between two guests on this episode.

13:09

One is a makeup artist, and

13:11

one is a dermatologist. If

13:13

you want to talk about your makeup routine, yeah,

13:16

if you want to talk about some skin issues

13:18

you may have had or an allergic reaction,

13:21

you'd be the perfect bridge.

13:24

Okay, go.

13:27

So I'd kind of like to switch up my beauty

13:30

routine. Last

13:32

month, I was using Kiels, which was great,

13:34

okay, and

13:37

I found a kind of the Ultra Sorry,

13:40

I'm kind of nervous.

13:41

Okay, take your time, hold on, hold on, let me give you some

13:43

soothing music. Ready,

13:45

okay,

13:49

go.

13:52

So yeah, so just help me.

13:54

So I used to use the Ultra repair cream

13:56

and then I found, after like a month

13:58

or so of my skin to kind of anuly

14:01

try.

14:02

Yeah.

14:03

And then I switched to a Korean

14:05

brand that my friend recommended me from

14:07

a Korean skin care to talk and

14:10

it's incredible. It's kind of changed my life.

14:13

I started off with as a one step carry

14:15

routine, and then I went to two steps and I'm

14:17

at five and my skin has completely

14:19

changed. I have glowing skin. It's amazing.

14:24

Yeah. And then.

14:32

I'm just trying to give hef to what you're

14:34

saying, give it a bit of mood. It's amazing. What

14:36

a soundtrack can do right to just change

14:38

what someone's saying in the whole entire mood of it.

14:41

Absolutely, and that's what I always one of my favorite

14:43

parts of your show. Like a printer and I

14:45

would draw up to the cabin a lottery in the pandemic.

14:48

He had the cabin up north of Minnesota, and

14:50

we would just listen to your podcast over and over

14:52

again, like the same twenty episodes, and

14:54

we'd have the friends right up with us.

14:56

It's insane at this moment has come

14:59

full circles.

15:00

Do you even see a skin issue? I can't remember. Oh no, you were

15:02

talking about your makeup routine. I used to use Keel's

15:04

body butter, but then I feel like Keel's has

15:06

lots of cords. I love that.

15:08

So if you get that body butter and then they have

15:11

like the actual lotion, the body butter is.

15:12

Amazing because that kind of well

15:14

the one you said though, though, when there's like yellow

15:17

and a little squirt.

15:17

Bottle that's tall, yes, like Crema cordz.

15:20

Yes, I used to use that, but then I

15:22

like, I got into this organic facial

15:25

lady and she basically

15:27

made me kind of turned off by products

15:29

with lots of chemicals in them.

15:30

I know, I really bad at that too. That fight, I kind of my

15:32

friend plushed me towards cream skincare because

15:35

it's really transparent about what they're

15:37

put in there. And I use this for a brand called Beauty

15:39

of Jossan. I highly recommend. I'm

15:41

a super super avoidable and

15:44

yeah, very transparent ingredients. And

15:46

yeah, I've always been really bad about looking at my

15:48

labels of what I put on my skin. And

15:51

yeah, after kind of having

15:54

bad reactions like you know, suwy dry skin or

15:56

rashes or whatnot, Well.

15:58

You know what I'm going to recommend to you. I've probably

16:00

said it before on the podcast and probably multiple

16:03

times, but Jennifer Aniston

16:05

once said it in an article, and I've been

16:07

a devotee ever since. You

16:10

want to know what it is or do you already know?

16:13

Wait?

16:13

Is that her?

16:14

I know she has a new like sampoo and sign.

16:18

I don't know.

16:19

Is it.

16:25

Egyptian Magic?

16:30

You got a brand?

16:31

Yeah, it's kind of like a little pot

16:33

of vasiline. It's

16:35

called Egyptian Magic. I

16:37

put it all over my face. I'm not

16:40

prone to breakouts. I

16:42

tend to have dry skin. You slather it on

16:45

at night wake up and your skin just looks

16:47

nice. I really love that.

16:49

It's like bag bomb, like you know what I mean, Like that little

16:52

kind of like gasline that comes like in a green ten kind

16:55

of like that like a all over cream

16:58

that you can put on your lips.

16:59

No, because that sounds like it's harder

17:02

and waxier. Balm makes me think

17:04

harder. This is like super soft

17:06

and you can rub it on your face and

17:08

it's like it's not like hard to rub

17:10

in or something. Also, I

17:12

love I sun products, all

17:15

organic, lots of oil based.

17:18

Okay, I.

17:21

S u n.

17:28

Anyhow, what a journey.

17:30

It's time to say goodbye.

17:34

It's time to say.

17:43

Hello my friend.

17:45

Hello, my friend. What

17:48

a skin condition?

17:51

Hello, my friend?

17:54

Ready to take notes? What's your skin condition?

17:58

Quickly?

17:58

Aging? Honey, honey,

18:01

honey, sit down, pull up

18:03

a chair, let's talk.

18:06

Remember when, well, you might not, Actually

18:08

you're old, you probably do. Do you remember

18:10

when everyone used to do movie phone impressions?

18:13

They were like, no rain,

18:16

movie phone, make your selection. It's

18:20

a by gone time. It

18:22

is a time. I love pretending to talk to you.

18:24

My skin carries the imprint of

18:27

movie phone impressions, like

18:30

my wrinkles hold The story

18:33

of a movie phone impression in bygone

18:35

times is when do I ask my question?

18:38

I guess now is a good time.

18:41

Hold on, okay,

18:50

questions?

18:52

How do I

18:55

retain my skin?

18:58

I'm in my late twenties.

19:00

Hold on, hold on, late

19:11

twenties, and you're trying to talk. I'm

19:13

commiserating with you about

19:15

fucking scanning. You're in your late

19:17

twenties. What my fucking

19:20

hell, upside down

19:22

world is this? How

19:24

dare you? Hey, hey, hey, hi? How

19:27

dare you?

19:30

I'm backwards?

19:30

I'm backwards with all helps.

19:32

And when people in their twenties talk to me about

19:34

their fucking wrinkled

19:36

trials and travails, this is me in my

19:38

head. You

19:41

don't know nothing until

19:44

you're in your forties, I

19:47

know, but I'd

19:50

say more so, I'm worried about getting skin cancer.

19:53

So other than.

19:56

You know, societal woes.

19:59

Telling me to worry about how I look, I think I

20:01

am more concerned about nice pivot.

20:04

Nice pivot,

20:08

because listen, who can get

20:10

mad about fearing skin cancer?

20:12

Right?

20:13

Yes, this is really this is about cancer.

20:15

Actually, it's very very.

20:18

Do you really taken us down

20:21

rude with your story.

20:26

That honestly, that button

20:28

has never been more propos.

20:31

I honestly, I'm often hesitant to

20:33

use a number of these buttons. That button just

20:35

hit the spot like a mola carbonora.

20:40

So what can I tell you about skin cancer? One

20:42

thing, I'm a survivor. I

20:44

had a chunk of it. Well, I had a

20:46

small blemish on my face that was cancerous, and I

20:48

had it removed and I now have a scar on my face. Feels

20:50

great, feels great. As an actor someone on

20:52

camera, it

20:55

sucks. What are you gonna do? What

20:57

are you gonna do? Part

21:00

of me really feels like though, would

21:02

it really have killed me if I just left it on?

21:04

Like?

21:04

And actually I think it was. It wasn't a melanoma,

21:07

but the kind it was. I said, what would have happened

21:09

if I just didn't treat it? Because you have to think

21:11

people who don't have like great

21:14

healthcare probably aren't finding

21:16

these kinds of things or identifying them.

21:19

And the dermatologist said it would turn into

21:21

a crater on

21:24

your face. Actually it's I guess

21:26

what, I don't know. Take take my chances.

21:30

Yeah, I'm going to take my chances.

21:32

No, it just makes me realize I should probably

21:34

go speak to my I have a dermatologist,

21:36

and that.

21:37

Is the goal of the

21:40

pod cast. Two new

21:44

dings, that one and

21:47

that one? Which ding do you prefer? This is

21:49

like, this is like a hearing test. Can

21:51

you hear this? Yeah? Can

21:54

you hear this?

21:56

Yes?

21:56

Did you hear that? I

21:58

kind of do you hear this? M No,

22:01

you're deaf. That

22:04

was a trick question. That was a trick. I didn't

22:06

actually ding anything. There's the two things

22:08

back and back. Okay, I've

22:11

actually been really cranking on coffee to

22:14

an extreme degree this morning.

22:17

Coffee coffee, coffee got

22:19

coffee crank and throom got

22:21

coffee crank, coffee

22:24

crank and through sisky and coffee.

22:29

Express.

22:30

It makes me want to listen to your your

22:33

platinum songs about

22:36

using the bathroom after a couple of

22:38

coffee.

22:40

Expresso Sorry

22:44

e a beautiful song that one.

22:47

Expresso

22:51

Express, Well, thank you.

22:55

So much, Expresso.

23:00

Say goodbye.

23:03

It's time to say bye.

23:09

We can't license my songs

23:11

that I want, so we got.

23:13

It's time to say goodbye.

23:18

It's time to say.

23:21

Honestly, it's gonna work. I

23:24

think it's pretty funny. Let's see what this one is actually.

23:26

I'll save it for the next caller. Anyhow,

23:32

tootle loop, thanks for calling, Thank

23:34

you, and God lets me a great week back

23:37

at you see

23:41

kinder, gentler, warmer.

23:44

It's time to say goodbye.

23:47

Honestly, pretty good time to say.

23:52

Now.

23:52

See that is a warmer way

23:54

to get off the phone, like you

23:56

can even sing along with it, like it's

23:59

time day the bar. Hello,

24:05

what's your skin condition?

24:07

Uh?

24:08

Fair?

24:09

Too moderate?

24:10

Oh oh what

24:12

fair to mat what? What? What?

24:15

Uh?

24:16

Combo?

24:17

Dry to oily?

24:18

But I have a medical horror story if you want to hear

24:20

it. Woo do

24:36

you want to hear it?

24:37

Of course?

24:41

Okay, So my partner

24:44

is well this this happened when she was

24:46

twenty six, but she was

24:48

misdiagnosed as uterine fibroids.

24:51

Turns out to be uterine cancer.

24:53

Oh my god.

24:55

So they didn't the doctors didn't do anything for

24:58

maybe like a year because they were like, oh,

25:01

it's not emergent, it's not cancer. Turns

25:04

out it was cancer.

25:07

Fucking nightmare.

25:09

Yeah, it was pretty horrible. She ended

25:11

up with thirty one pounds of tumors.

25:13

Oh my

25:16

god, that's

25:18

insane. So is she okay?

25:20

Now?

25:21

God? Please?

25:21

Yeah?

25:22

She beat it. I don't know what I would

25:24

say, if you're like, no, she passed this

25:26

past weekend, I'd be like,

25:28

eh, they

25:31

think they think, sorry, we're out of time. No, listen, that's

25:34

terrifying. I'm so scared of I.

25:37

Honestly, you do hear those stories, which

25:39

is what makes people be I

25:42

don't know if the word is hypochondriac or extra

25:45

vigilant, but it's like you do hear these stories

25:47

of like, yeah, the doctor said the lump in my breast

25:49

was nothing to worry about.

25:50

You know, yeah, exactly.

25:53

The doctors for so long were like

25:56

it was just getting like progressively worse.

25:58

It was like she was on her period. I had twenty

26:00

four hours a day, every single day of the week

26:03

for months, and.

26:03

Her doctor's like, you're good.

26:06

It's like doc, yeah, exactly.

26:07

You want to change my tampons for me because they

26:09

ain't changing themselves docking

26:12

room.

26:13

Yeah.

26:14

I tho to god, she must have gone through like

26:16

a pack of Maxi pads every day.

26:19

Good god, it's like cigarettes exactly

26:22

like that. She was essentially a change

26:25

chese smoker, but

26:28

a tamp stuffer.

26:30

Yeah, yeah, essentially, so she was. She was out

26:32

of work for a long time. She did

26:34

almost die.

26:35

Okay, you said that like it was a good thing.

26:38

You're like, no, No, she wasn't a good thing. Yeah,

26:41

but it did get her

26:43

into surgery faster, which she

26:45

was able to survive from that.

26:47

Listen, not for nothing. If I had

26:49

my period for twelve

26:51

days, I'd be in the er.

26:53

Yeah.

26:53

Yeah, she she flatlined during the surgery.

26:57

They brought her back. Oh

27:00

and then she now she's twenty

27:02

eight. She doesn't have a uterus,

27:05

she doesn't have a cervix, she

27:07

doesn't have filoppian tubes, she

27:09

has one ovary.

27:15

Sorry, I just as you were listing

27:17

that, I'm like imagining

27:20

hitting the laugh after each one of those, because it's almost

27:22

like you're holding for applause on each detail.

27:24

But it's so horrific, Jess.

27:28

You know, it's like the things that women go through.

27:30

I feel like our medical Maybe

27:34

I'm wrong, but it does feel like women's

27:36

medical issues are so complex.

27:38

And I

27:41

feel like I've heard that before, like men's medical

27:43

issues tend to come in their sixties or something,

27:45

whereas women, it feels like it's just a rampage

27:48

throughout all our stages of life.

27:50

Yeah, And the thing with uterine cancer

27:53

is that it's getting more common for like

27:56

the younger generation, everything

27:59

is menopause.

28:01

God, every fucking cancer is

28:03

getting more common for young

28:05

people. Colon cancer too. Yep,

28:08

honey, what do we do? What

28:11

do we do about this?

28:12

I have not a clue.

28:13

Stop single use plastic. Yeah,

28:16

maybe so is

28:18

what you said. This is your your wife

28:20

or your girlfriends.

28:22

This is my girlfriend. We're

28:24

not married, but we've been together for uh

28:27

it's like five years.

28:28

What about you? Enough about the old lady.

28:32

What's your deal? Any skin conditions?

28:35

Trying to steer you back to the topic. What about

28:38

you? Skin conditions like crazy

28:40

or what?

28:41

I have mild eggs on my

28:43

knuckles.

28:44

That's not going to cut it, honey, Yeah,

28:46

sorry, mild egg SMA

28:49

on my knuckles. What's

28:54

your makeup routine?

28:56

I haven't worn makeup in maybe like seven

28:58

years.

29:00

No, I'm just kidding, you know what. I respect

29:02

it, Honestly, I should give it up. I'm trying to give it

29:04

up for a lent or something. All

29:07

right, well, listen, I oh, listen

29:10

here we've gotten to the point. But I have a new song to

29:12

play.

29:13

Now let us say it.

29:14

Stray.

29:17

It's John for you, Go

29:20

Go goodbye.

29:26

Were you able to hear the lyrics.

29:28

Yeah, yeah, so I guess I should say goodbye.

29:31

Wait one more, thank

29:36

you for loving me.

29:40

Hello.

29:48

These are some songs that I heart had

29:50

access to. What do you think

29:53

pretty good?

29:55

Yeah?

29:55

I would say pretty good compared

29:59

to Tank, It's it's a heart.

30:00

It's a heart. It's a rough one to follow, absolute

30:04

inspired genius and.

30:10

Thank you for loving me.

30:14

Love. Let's

30:18

see. There's this one too, looking

30:20

for someone like you,

30:24

for somebody to Okay,

30:27

some of these are gonna work, though. I think like part

30:29

of the struggle of this podcast

30:31

is part of the charm. I'm hoping and

30:34

having struggling music. No no

30:36

disrespect to these artists, because my god,

30:38

incredible work, but

30:41

having struggled music is

30:44

kind of fits the show, you know.

30:46

Yeah.

30:46

The last one kind of reminded me of the I

30:49

don't know if you remember the song

30:51

you you demonstrated that was like,

30:54

uh, the elevator song. It's

30:56

like welcome home, my friend, you're on

30:58

the fifteenth floor.

31:00

You seem like a real You're gonna get sorry

31:04

yep, just checking all my buttons still work. I

31:06

don't know what you're talking about, but I do feel like there's

31:08

that energy shift I need to make happen

31:11

right now. I want to say thank you for sharing your

31:14

ultimately your girlfriend's story

31:16

with me. I'm glad she's

31:18

in good health.

31:19

Now it's

31:24

time to say good bye.

31:28

It's time to say.

31:35

It's time to say good bye.

31:39

It's time to say

31:43

hello.

31:44

Hi.

31:45

Is this Chelsea?

31:46

It is.

31:48

Hi.

31:49

I have a couple of food test

31:51

options for you, if you're amenable.

31:52

Okay, great, I am amenable.

31:55

One.

31:55

Let me get my ding ready.

31:58

So the theme would be savory

32:01

items are arguably savory items

32:03

as dessert items, So using

32:05

tahini in a dessert.

32:07

Oh, actually, I jumped the gun. I

32:13

thought you were gonna say, like sweet

32:15

hummus, which for me is a no.

32:18

I'm gonna add that to the list.

32:19

Do that? Does that exist?

32:21

Sweet hummus? Yes, people

32:24

do chocolate hummus, honey.

32:26

Okay,

32:30

so sweet hummus, and people do savory

32:33

oatmeal that.

32:34

I had a friend in college who would do

32:37

like with chicken stock and

32:39

that seemed dron to me.

32:43

Okay, you're right, you're

32:45

right about that. Okay, So what is

32:48

your okay? Now? Tahini.

32:51

I have had a number of places

32:53

in La do chocolate chip cookies

32:55

with tahini in it. I don't taste the tahini,

32:57

but the cookies themselves are magical. So I'm

32:59

gonna say tahini is good

33:02

in desserts.

33:04

Okay, great, I'll say correct. So

33:06

the next would be olive

33:09

oil or chili crisp

33:11

on top of ice cream.

33:15

That's okay, what do you think

33:17

you like chili crisp?

33:19

I I've had. I've

33:21

had olive oil on top of ice cream before, and

33:23

it was good. But there was some

33:25

place in San Francisco that did it.

33:27

I can see that the ice cream.

33:30

The chili crisp I see advertised everywhere,

33:32

and I'm just not sure.

33:34

You see chili crisp advertised

33:36

everywhere for being on ice

33:38

cream? Where do you live? Cuckoo Banana

33:41

Town? Cuckoo

33:47

Banana Town, guys, All

33:49

right, but of

33:53

course, I mean

33:55

I would try it, like, don't get me wrong, I'll

33:58

try most things, but I don't

34:00

have high hopes for chilling crowls from Mr.

34:03

Fair Enough, fair enough, okay. So my last one

34:06

is probably most controversial,

34:08

which is fois gras as

34:10

a dessert.

34:12

Don't put me in this hot seat, sister, Don't

34:14

you dare put me in this hot seed.

34:22

I can't believe these songs. So there's

34:25

one that I don't know what these there's a couple songs

34:27

I don't know what they are, but these songs are pretty funny.

34:31

It's so funny. What is like, I

34:33

don't know what's licensable? And like,

34:36

imagine you made that song and then you just hear

34:38

yourself on this podcast, Like what a weird

34:41

journey. Sometimes

34:43

I think copyrights and all that, like, I know they

34:45

protect us, and this is probably a stupid thing

34:47

to say, but sometimes I'm like, God, imagine like

34:50

making art before all this, like when

34:53

you could just be so inspired by each other

34:56

and just make shit and do it. And you

34:58

know, there's so much red tape now with everything.

35:02

I don't know. The flow of it

35:04

all is very like stagnated

35:06

by it all. All right, Hello,

35:12

what's your skin issue?

35:13

Oh? I used that psoriasis?

35:16

Oh?

35:38

How was it?

35:41

It sucked? It was weird. It

35:43

was like really bad for like

35:45

five years and then it just went away.

35:48

That's strange. Did you make a dietary change?

35:51

I don't know. It was

35:53

like from twenty oh seven to twenty twelve

35:55

and then it just stopped. It just went away

35:57

in a matter of a couple of weeks or a couple,

36:01

and I still get like occasional

36:03

like flare ups. I see a germantologists every so

36:05

often, but.

36:08

Occasional flaps.

36:11

It's gone, yeah

36:14

yeah, but super controllable. No one can even

36:16

tell. It's so minor.

36:19

Question. I don't remember

36:21

the symptoms of siasis. Is it like redness

36:24

or is that rosesia?

36:25

I think it's rasesia. No, likerisis

36:28

is like you get like almost

36:30

like scab, like dry scabby.

36:33

Let me write that down, and

36:36

it could crack and sometimes it can bleed

36:39

crack. It's not fun.

36:41

Okay, So my notes it says dry scab,

36:44

crack, bleed, ry scab bleed.

36:47

Okay, so that is SISIs.

36:51

I can't believe it just came and went like that. I

36:53

have to believe it was. Can it be triggered?

36:56

Now I'm no doctor. I will have a skin

36:58

doctor on this

37:00

episode. But but but that's

37:02

wonderful, thank you so much. But

37:04

but but what I think is

37:07

could it be caused by like a detergent

37:10

or a food and you just change it?

37:12

Yes, it can. So.

37:15

So the doctors that I remember

37:18

many years back there we're like, okay, you need to eat

37:20

these foods these like sugars could trigger

37:22

it. Stress is very known to trigger it.

37:26

What else, like, yeah, detergents I used to have

37:29

used to have to use like sensitive skin

37:31

soaps. Oh, apparently

37:33

lufahs are the devil if

37:35

you have any dry skin issues, like

37:38

you should never use a loofah. So I stopped using

37:40

lucid.

37:40

Then counterintuitive, isn't

37:42

it?

37:43

It is?

37:43

Yeah, I really want to scrub all

37:45

that ship off and start fresh. And then so

37:48

what does a loofah do if you have.

37:52

It? Scratches your skin and then it exposes

37:54

it more to have more of a propensity

37:56

to to make it spread.

38:00

Ah, well, well

38:05

so that's weird. You don't really have a solution

38:07

for the listener who may have Surisis

38:10

it's just absolutely out of your control? Is

38:12

the message?

38:14

There?

38:14

There are great medications. There's like these

38:17

biologics, I think that's what they're called. They're

38:19

like injectable. There's

38:22

also like laser treatment. There's also topicals.

38:25

There are no no,

38:27

I didn't do any of that, but but that's what exists.

38:29

I know.

38:30

But you know, I'm really I think you're

38:32

presenting me with a bit of a head scratch. I'm

38:34

trying to find out.

38:35

I don't.

38:36

I didn't have to use any of that. It just went away.

38:38

I know.

38:39

I'm just saying, why did it go away? If

38:41

I'm you, I'm like, I need answers.

38:44

Why was it here for five years?

38:45

Why to go away?

38:46

I asked my dermatologists that many

38:49

times and they don't know. They

38:51

just don't know. They tried

38:54

to get me on.

38:55

I know, I know that was so

38:58

od I actually had to band

39:00

in the button I could have. First it

39:02

was so quiet, and then I asked for it

39:05

to be a little louder, and all of a sudden it was the

39:07

loudest boo I've ever heard anyhow

39:10

Well, listen, thanks for calling in. Sorry

39:12

about your psiasis situation, but

39:15

happy about that miracle disappearance.

39:18

Yeah, as I might. And thanks for coming back to

39:20

the pod.

39:21

Thank you. Oh

39:28

lot's like out of time. Goodbye. All

39:31

right, that's the end of the

39:33

calls. We have special

39:35

guests on this episode.

39:39

What do I know about skin? What do I know about

39:41

why someone has scaly knuckles

39:43

or five years of you

39:46

know, cysts or whatever it is. I'm

39:49

not a doctor, not a doctor, but

39:53

someone else is someone

39:55

who happens to have agreed to

39:57

be on this shell. Ladies

40:00

and gentlemen, please welcome your

40:03

next segment.

40:05

Oh my goodness,

40:11

doctor Emma free

40:14

Thorne.

40:14

Am I seeing that correctly?

40:16

Yeah?

40:17

Perfect?

40:17

Perfect? Sometimes I get called like all

40:20

kinds of names, but you've got that spot.

40:21

On I okay.

40:24

First of all, thank you so much for

40:26

doing the podcast. I've

40:30

been Okay, me and my husband have

40:32

watched Save My Skin, your

40:35

series on TLC. Wait,

40:38

how many seasons do you have? Like six?

40:40

Yeah, so you will have had five series

40:43

so far, but there is a six

40:45

series that's we've just in fact, we've

40:47

finished filming it this weekend, so

40:50

yeah, so we we we have yet to see

40:52

it. I think it will go out in the UK

40:55

in January and then you get it in April.

40:57

So yeah, that'll be your season six.

40:59

So see my Skin.

41:01

Okay, So we started by watching

41:03

this other series that

41:06

was about brains and emergency

41:09

rooms and then Save my Skin kind

41:11

of.

41:12

I don't know how we happened upon it, but or

41:14

maybe someone told me. I can't remember, but

41:16

we're like, okay, let's watch this Save

41:19

my Skin. Honestly, And I

41:21

was describing it at a stand up show the other night

41:23

and people were screaming no,

41:27

no. I should play that clip

41:29

here actually of people screaming no when I was describing

41:33

the show.

41:45

It's so hard to be alone with it. Okay,

41:49

I won't say the demails. I'm just gonna vaguely

41:51

say that the textures.

42:00

Basically, you are taking people

42:03

with extreme skin problems.

42:05

There was a woman that comes to mind with

42:09

absesses under her armpits

42:11

that wouldn't heal. There's a

42:13

man with these huge kind of bumps

42:16

on his back that you were cutting open,

42:18

and it was like going on a roller coaster

42:20

to watch your show. Me and my husband are actually

42:23

screaming at the top of our lungs during

42:26

some of the procedures that you were doing, and

42:28

literally hiding under our blankets

42:31

from trying to tap out

42:33

from watching some of these things. I will

42:36

say, you have a proclivity for describing

42:38

the smell of things that you're excising,

42:41

and I'm like, you are demonic. Why

42:44

I was like, she is psychotic? I was telling my

42:47

husband, why is she describing the smell you

42:50

described it?

42:51

Secretly wanted to know, Oh.

42:53

My god, it definitely adds to it. I will say,

42:55

it was just like the exhilaration and

42:57

screaming. I was like, oh, I can kind of see maybe

43:00

why people like this in horror movies.

43:02

Now is your show, Are we seeing

43:04

like the top five percent

43:06

of extreme cases

43:09

or is this a typical day for you?

43:11

So it's a bit. So these patients

43:14

are the kind of typical patients that I would see day

43:16

to day. So I work at the Saint John's

43:18

Institute of Dermatology, which is you

43:20

know, it's the biggest center in Europe

43:23

really for dermatology and it's based

43:25

in London, so I see a lot

43:27

of kind of tertiary

43:30

specialist cases anyway, So

43:32

these are the typical kind of things that we

43:35

would see. And the people who

43:37

come on the show are people

43:39

who have applied to be on the show,

43:41

so they are somewhere

43:44

else in the country or actually somewhere in the world.

43:46

We get people come from all over who

43:48

send in a photograph and just simply say,

43:50

you know, please, can I get some help because they're

43:52

not getting help where they are locally.

43:55

So yes, it's similar to

43:57

what I would see in my day to day because

44:01

it's outside my own catchment

44:03

area of say London. Then

44:05

you're seeing bigger and greater things

44:07

as well.

44:08

Yeah, I feel like there was some people.

44:11

I mean, there was a couple different people who had lumps

44:13

all over their entire body. I don't know if they were

44:15

the same. One guy had lipomas, which

44:17

I actually have some in my arms, and I was like, now,

44:20

I'm like, should I get this out because my doctor said

44:22

no, But I don't want it to be this big and leave

44:24

a scar. But I guess most of them don't

44:26

grow.

44:27

He said, most of them don't grow.

44:30

But it's hard to predict which ones are going to

44:32

grow. So if they are growing,

44:34

you typically can you realize

44:36

that they're getting bigger. And so if you've got one that's growing,

44:39

then I would just say, then's the time to get

44:41

it done. But most people will just have one and it

44:43

doesn't do anything at all.

44:45

Yeah, but that one guy just had massive

44:47

ones all over his entire body and

44:49

it's like crazy or you're like having to remove

44:51

a couple at a time. Is that because

44:54

of wound care being too challenging?

44:57

If you like you can't just go in

44:59

and take them all.

44:59

Out, Yeah, you can take them all out

45:01

because it's yeah, it's too many, you know,

45:04

areas of infection and for healing. It's

45:06

okay, probably to take you know, six, seven,

45:08

eight, I mean I think the most have taken out

45:10

in one go has been around about

45:13

thirty because there were small ones

45:16

with the record of seven seconds. I mean

45:18

that's what games. You then start to plays like hwe

45:20

quickly, can I get out of this live Homer? Okay,

45:23

start the timer seven seconds?

45:26

You really love your job? Oh

45:29

yeah, which really

45:31

comes through And I do think it's part of

45:33

why the show is also so

45:35

fun to watch, because you are like literally

45:39

and figuratively into digging

45:41

in and figuring out what you can.

45:43

Do, and.

45:44

Yeah, we try and as two.

45:47

So each episode has four stories,

45:50

and there are two of them we call

45:53

gorries where you're hiding

45:55

okay, and two of

45:57

them are stories where it

46:00

takes you on the journey of the patient so that

46:02

you can kind of understand a little bit

46:04

what it's like to have a skin disease and the challenges

46:06

that it faces. And then obviously

46:08

I have to get my thinking hat on to try

46:11

and work out what is wrong with this person,

46:13

what treatments have we got available, how

46:15

can we make them better?

46:16

So if we did, if

46:18

you did four gorries, you might lose

46:20

all your viewers. Exactly,

46:23

because they'd just be hiding under a blanket

46:26

and just be like, I can't take it. They'd have to tap

46:28

out. But you seem

46:30

to have an infinite capacity for the gorries.

46:33

You could do that all day long.

46:35

All day long. I mean, that's

46:37

really fun.

46:39

I guess you have to also have a camera crew

46:41

that isn't squeamish, right,

46:43

because I'm sure there's people who would literally throw

46:45

up from some of the stuff the gorris.

46:48

I mean, yes, but it's more fun whenever they are

46:50

squeamish and they have to keep filming, Like,

46:53

do.

46:53

You have a camera person or anyone

46:55

in your crew who's like, I can't look

46:57

at this? And you know, you described

47:00

that guy's back boils as smelling

47:02

like scrambled eggs, and I was just like, I

47:05

cannot. It's so

47:08

visceral to think that this

47:10

man is packing around scrambled

47:12

eggs scented and it looked

47:15

like scrambled eggs. Yeah, they

47:17

all look.

47:18

So different and they all smell so different. So

47:20

the one actually just was

47:22

filming just last weekend as well, and

47:25

the one last weekend was absolutely wonderful.

47:27

It was a cyst that she had on her jaw

47:30

and she'd had it for twelve years, so normally

47:32

by twelve years, I was thinking it's going to be

47:34

really degraded and this, you know, that very

47:37

yellow week kind of brown color that comes out

47:39

of it. But it wasn't at all, you know. I went

47:41

into it and it was pure white.

47:44

It was like cram fresh, absolutely

47:46

gorgeous, beautiful white, just coming

47:48

out.

47:49

Did you spread it on a cracker and put a

47:51

little cavia on top?

47:53

To be honest, she could have done and probably not

47:55

really noticed the difference.

47:57

It really looked like cram fresh.

48:00

It did. It's not like it as well.

48:02

Oh god, you should have a

48:04

cooking show combined with your show.

48:07

You'll like that one when you see it, because it comes

48:09

out. And then because it was so big, I

48:11

needed to get the contents off at it so it could just

48:13

be the small scar. And then I very

48:16

carefully dissected the sack out and I

48:18

lifted the sack up and I said,

48:20

do you want to see it? And just said yes, of

48:22

course. So I showed it to her and then laid

48:24

it down and Matty, who's my nursey you'll

48:26

have seen on it? We both looked at each other. We're like it

48:29

just looks like a condom.

48:31

Oh my gosh, wait

48:34

a minute, you'll see that.

48:35

That was Another question is why

48:38

do you Because I've noticed that as well, you ask

48:40

patients do you want to see it? What is that about?

48:43

Because they all want to. Very

48:45

rarely would you get somebody who doesn't want to.

48:48

They really just are quite

48:51

intrigued to find out what was inside

48:53

them. It's a bit I think like the unboxing

48:56

videos you know that kids love to watch

48:58

on YouTube where they see what is inside hinder

49:00

egg. And it's a little bit like that.

49:02

You really just want to.

49:04

What's inside is not a presence

49:06

or anything you want. It's

49:09

like the boxing video.

49:11

And then have you ever seen anything caused

49:13

by makeup? Anything terrible

49:15

that was caused by makeup?

49:17

I mean not terrible. However, there

49:19

are lots and lots of people, there's you know, lots of

49:21

trends at the minute, especially on social media.

49:23

There are we're discussing them on this

49:26

episode.

49:27

Okay, so you know, get ready, get

49:29

ready with me and all of you

49:31

know this kind of thing. And when you think about

49:33

every single piece of makeup

49:35

is essentially just a bunch of chemicals, that's

49:37

all it is. And each time you put the chemicals

49:40

on your face, you're essentially,

49:42

for some people, introducing an irritant

49:45

dermatitis. In other words, you can

49:47

make the skin go red and itchy,

49:49

or an allergic dermatitis, in

49:51

which case you can develop blisters and

49:53

you know, red rashes. So makeup

49:56

can cause those two things. One

49:58

of the other things that make up and all of these

50:00

other cosmetics that a lot of people will use,

50:02

are that and the preservatives and

50:04

other things that are within it can actually cause

50:07

a condition called Perry oral dermatitis,

50:09

where you develop what looks like acne,

50:11

but around the nose and around the mouth.

50:14

And we're just seeing so many

50:16

cases of that over like the last three years.

50:18

You know, when I started off in dermatology about

50:21

twenty years ago, I would maybe see one

50:23

clinic, one person in my clinic

50:25

every week. I easily see three

50:28

times every day. Now it is

50:31

there's so.

50:32

And are they all TikTokers?

50:34

They're all kind of twenty thirty

50:36

early forty year old. Yet that's the demographic

50:39

of it. We were just saying, loads.

50:41

Have you ever cut something open? And then there a bunch

50:43

of baby spiders run out.

50:45

That hasn't happened yet.

50:47

Would you be prepared to know what to do? Like,

50:49

would you ever go this seems like a spider

50:52

sack of baby spiders?

50:55

I've had a fly. So there

50:58

was a woman who came to our skin

51:00

cancer screening clinic and

51:03

she she had a love and they sort of a skin

51:05

cancer. So and it was sent to me. It's like, it doesn't look like

51:07

a skin cancer. But I cut into it and it

51:09

was a buttfly and the butt fly had laid

51:11

the larvae inside. So I've

51:13

had that.

51:14

Where was she living that this happened? Could

51:16

this happen anyway? You know in the

51:18

UK?

51:18

Yeah, in the UK, it can happen anywhere.

51:20

Yeah.

51:21

Yeah, So so that happened to

51:23

her and then.

51:25

Oh my god, woa

51:30

Okay, so that is upsetting.

51:32

All right? Wait, have you ever dealt with like snake

51:34

bites?

51:35

No?

51:35

I haven't. We don't really have Well we do have snakes

51:38

in the United Kingdom, but they're not it's only one type

51:40

and it's not really a poisonous snake.

51:42

So so no.

51:45

What about jellyfish?

51:46

Jellyfish, Yes, lots of jellyfish,

51:49

but there's there's not too much you can

51:51

do. So the trick with jellyfish things

51:53

are that you just pour hot water onto

51:55

the area, right you try

51:57

not to pat it, but you just put hot

51:59

hot is the water you can get to tolerate it.

52:02

You pour that on to kill the little nematodes,

52:05

and you don't pat it, you don't

52:07

pay on it. There, that's not a thing that really

52:09

does work.

52:11

That.

52:11

That's the trick with jelly and then you just have to deal with

52:13

it.

52:16

What else? What else horrific

52:18

can I think of? I

52:20

mean, there was there is some increase right

52:22

now, and like from

52:24

lakes if you inhale water or

52:26

something that you can get that necrotic

52:29

skin or something, isn't it.

52:32

I didn't do that one.

52:34

We were really off the rails because I'm

52:37

just like, isn't there something with uh water

52:39

and rotting skin?

52:42

I don't know. You know, listen, I

52:44

feel like I've I've wasted enough of your

52:46

time with my stupid podcast. But

52:49

no, I highly recommend

52:52

to the listener to go watch this show

52:54

and scream with someone because it's it's

52:56

like being It really has been like on a roller coaster.

52:58

It was exhilarating. And

53:02

anyhow, well, thank you so much for

53:04

coming onto the show and

53:07

and thanks for the entertainment.

53:09

Yeah, thank you so much for asking me to come along.

53:11

I'm so glad that you enjoyed the show as well.

53:13

That's my day.

53:14

It's really fun. It's it's horrific

53:17

and fun. All right.

53:19

Well, thanks take care of them.

53:21

Okay, bye, little

53:28

little lemon based desserts. What do you think?

53:31

Hell? Lemon based?

53:33

Hello?

53:36

Oh?

53:36

I love them, huge advocate.

53:39

I actually ate one today.

53:40

What was it?

53:42

It was a cupcake and

53:45

it had like a raspberry

53:47

filling and like you

53:50

could tell they had a blow torch on

53:53

the frosting.

53:54

I love a lemon dessert. I love lemon and pretty

53:56

much everything, to the point where I actually have googled

53:59

if it's like a sign of a deficiency

54:01

or something like do I have scurvy?

54:03

Why do I want to eat lemon peel in

54:05

both savory and sweet dishes? And all

54:08

the time. I can only say that, like, as

54:11

life is so challenging sometimes

54:13

and as you get older,

54:16

you just want more excitement. I feel like spicy

54:18

food like seshuan numbing spice. Lemon

54:21

is so bright and like sunshiny,

54:24

and I just want like these.

54:27

I feel like eating lemon is like a physical

54:30

and mental lift.

54:33

Okay, I mean, I

54:35

don't even I don't crave it like that, so

54:38

I can't super relate. But

54:41

maybe there is a problem with you.

54:43

It's

54:46

time to say bad.

54:50

I just need someone

54:53

who gets it.

54:57

Like garlic. Also, I could eat like fifteen

55:00

clothes of garlic and pretty much any

55:02

dish, you know, any recipe, it's like two clothes

55:04

of garlic. I was actually

55:07

laughing in the pandemic, like in the

55:09

beginning of it, when everyone's doing home cooking

55:11

videos. Malin Ackerman actually did

55:13

one where she made lentils.

55:17

Hi do

55:19

you love lemon? Is it everything you

55:21

could ever want?

55:22

In?

55:25

Hello?

55:27

Hi?

55:28

Do you love lemon?

55:29

Yeah? I love lemon. Yeah,

55:44

thank you, thank you.

55:45

Thank you, thank you, thank you speech

55:48

speech.

55:49

Yeah. No, I love lemon

55:52

moraine pie. That's that's one of

55:55

my favorite lemon desserts.

55:58

Yeah. When I was a kid and

56:01

super Kmart used to exist, my

56:03

mom would always buy me a piece

56:05

of lemon pie and it was like my favorite thing.

56:23

Thank you. Well,

56:26

what about you? What's what's your favorite lemon

56:29

dessert?

56:30

It's hard to choose. I mean, I love

56:33

like I

56:36

would probably like, I don't know what my favorite

56:38

is because I think I love all lemon, but lemon cake

56:41

I really do love now.

56:44

You know, not many people know this,

56:46

but Greg Daniels when

56:48

I used to I used to write for Parks

56:50

and rec. Greg Daniels

56:53

was a producer of Parks and Rec and he would

56:55

send one every Christmas, a lemon cake. I

56:58

loved it. I thought it was the best

57:00

Christmas present you could ever send to a person.

57:02

It was so lemony, came in a little

57:04

tin, and I looked forward

57:06

to it was such a delightful treat.

57:09

Every year. I

57:11

used to make a lemon cake with my stepmother

57:13

growing up. You take a box of yellow

57:15

cake, you add a packet of lemon jello

57:17

to it, and then you make a little glaze with

57:20

lemon and powdered sugar and put it over the top. That

57:22

was also delicious. Cool,

57:25

Thank you, thank you.

57:29

I love lemon pasta. There's a place in New

57:31

York, Little Frankies, that has

57:33

a lemon spaghetti lemone that I think

57:35

is absolutely incredible. Okay,

57:41

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? What's up with the judgment?

57:45

No judgment, just never tried it,

57:47

so you know, it's just

57:49

gotta think about it.

57:52

Well, it's really good. It is really

57:54

really good, and it's just basically pasta with

57:56

tons of lemon, lemon, zest, parmesan,

57:59

black pepper, olive butter.

58:02

You know, I honestly, when I cook, I don't use

58:04

a ton of butter because I think

58:06

olive oil does the trick a lot of times. But

58:08

this pasta is so good, and when I was recently

58:11

in New York, I went and got it, and let me tell

58:13

you, it holds

58:17

delicious. Well.

58:21

Anyhow, I do love lemon, savory

58:23

and sweet. I'm looking for someone who loves

58:26

it. I mean, you sound like you're getting there. You're

58:28

getting closer to what I was looking for. But I

58:30

need someone where it's like almost like why

58:33

am I so obsessed with

58:35

lemon? I am sick?

58:38

You know, it's that kind of desire

58:40

for lemon.

58:41

Yeah, yeah, no, I love it.

58:43

I just I just kind of pressed it, yeah

58:46

the way. Yeah, I'm sorry.

58:48

Well, you should look up like a recipe for spaghetti

58:50

lemone online and try to make it,

58:52

because actually it's also something that's so easy to

58:54

make. All you need is pasta, butter, lemon,

58:58

you know, salt, black pepper, maybe a little

59:00

parmesan. But I'd tell you what on

59:03

a on a little work night. Whip

59:05

that up. You'll be happier than

59:08

a.

59:08

Clean Yeah, yeah, yeah,

59:10

yeah. You know what when

59:13

when I was a kid, do you remember the easy

59:15

bake oven?

59:16

Yeah?

59:17

I never had one, but I do. Of course I wasn't

59:19

aware of them.

59:20

Uh huh, Well, my older sister

59:22

had one, and and uh we'd

59:25

buy the lemon cake mix. We just make

59:27

it at home. We'd

59:30

make them in the little easy bake oven and

59:32

then just like decorate them.

59:33

And now see that sounds delicious.

59:35

The cakes or whatever. And then we

59:37

would go knocking from door to door and

59:40

sell the little cakes for like a buck eat and

59:42

we would go back home with some with some cash.

59:44

Enterprising.

59:46

You could do that today, all

59:48

on lemon, all on lemon cake.

59:50

Yeah, you can get it for you do it for a little

59:52

lemon lemon cake money, then you can

59:54

get twice the cake. The thing

59:56

is like, actually I've said this before,

59:59

but lemon box like any

1:00:01

box cake, is pretty much

1:00:03

delicious in my opinion.

1:00:04

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

1:00:07

Anyhow well, listen,

1:00:09

it feels good to talk to someone

1:00:12

who knows what I'm talking about. Some people don't like lemon.

1:00:14

They think it tastes like soap or something. You know.

1:00:16

Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like cilantro Cilantro's

1:00:19

I don't know why people like it. Some people say it tastes

1:00:21

like soap.

1:00:21

I know, and I love Cilantro, but I can't

1:00:23

imagine, like, you know, I guess it is

1:00:25

supposedly genetic, but seems a little suspect,

1:00:28

doesn't it.

1:00:29

Yeah, they're genetic suck or something.

1:00:32

Is that like only amongst white people or are

1:00:34

there people who are like grew up

1:00:36

their whole family eats cilantro all the time and they

1:00:39

have that genetic thing.

1:00:41

I don't. I don't know.

1:00:42

I need answers and

1:00:45

I may never get there.

1:00:47

Maybe. Yeah, well I'm partially

1:00:49

Mexican, so maybe that's why

1:00:52

that's why I like Cilantro so much. On everything,

1:00:55

as you know, also hot sauces

1:00:57

and stuff.

1:00:58

What's your favorite hot sauce?

1:01:01

My favorite hot sauce is

1:01:03

uh? Is

1:01:05

there anything habernaro? Maybe? A

1:01:08

uh not? Maybe for sure a

1:01:10

green salsa?

1:01:11

Have you had the habannaro

1:01:13

tabasco?

1:01:15

Yeah, we have it right here, it's right

1:01:17

in front of me.

1:01:18

Delicious, But have you noticed that the

1:01:20

calories on it are so much higher

1:01:22

than the other Tabasco or Sodia.

1:01:24

I've never done any calorie counts when it comes

1:01:26

to hot sauce. Is I just I just.

1:01:29

Well it doesn't It does

1:01:31

sound crazy when you put it like that. I'm like, I'm

1:01:33

constantly cal counting on my salsas.

1:01:36

But I will say I love

1:01:38

that green one, and then one day I can't remember

1:01:40

for the calories or if it

1:01:42

was the sodium something on.

1:01:45

That is really different from the regular, the

1:01:47

red Tabasco. But here's my question

1:01:49

to you. Do you

1:01:52

like Frank's Red Hot or Tabasco

1:01:54

better?

1:01:55

Oh? Man, I do like both,

1:01:57

but better. I'd say Tabasco. I just

1:01:59

I like, I like vinegar stuff.

1:02:01

Frank's is more vinegary. Yeah yeah

1:02:03

wait really yeah? What about Crystal

1:02:06

Crystal versus Tabasco.

1:02:08

Crystal versus Sabasco.

1:02:10

Yeah you know Louisiana Crystal.

1:02:12

Oh yeah yeah no still

1:02:14

Tabasco.

1:02:14

Oh whoa, whoa, You're a complete Tabasco

1:02:17

head. This is a complete

1:02:19

shock because they to me, Tabasco

1:02:21

is not that vinegary. The

1:02:24

most vinegary one I think

1:02:26

is like Frank's and Crystal. Anyway,

1:02:28

listen, you know what, You're right, Yeah, you're right.

1:02:31

Listen, don't tell me I'm right. They're gonna be like this white

1:02:33

girl's telling him about sauce, So what

1:02:36

the fuck does she know? And hot sauce?

1:02:38

Blah blah blah. Listen, Just tell me I'm wrong,

1:02:40

tell me I'm stupid, tell me I'm

1:02:42

white. Let's call it a day. No, I

1:02:44

don't know anything, thank you.

1:02:47

I deserve that women's

1:02:51

stupid woman's stupid white person.

1:02:55

All right, Well, anyway, listen, this call has

1:02:58

been informative. You

1:03:01

may the lemon be with you. Oh let

1:03:03

me, and it's.

1:03:04

Time to say goodbye.

1:03:08

It's time to say bye.

1:03:13

All right, still

1:03:16

seeking that person who's as lemon crazed

1:03:18

as I am with lemon, lemon,

1:03:23

lemon drops in your eyeballs. I was trying

1:03:25

to think of like lemon. You're like imagining a lemon

1:03:27

shape as a pupil. That's me. If

1:03:30

you can photoshop lemons into

1:03:32

my pupils, send

1:03:36

it my way, because that is me to

1:03:39

a tea. We have a special

1:03:41

guest today all the way from oh Hi,

1:03:45

and she is baking up some

1:03:47

lemone treats, So

1:03:50

buckle up. Wow, family,

1:03:53

So Emily all

1:03:57

ben okay,

1:04:01

So I don't even know did we meet an

1:04:03

O, Hi, No, No, I just

1:04:05

know because this happens to me all the time. I follow people

1:04:07

on Instagram and then I feel like we have

1:04:10

met and we're friends.

1:04:11

Yeah.

1:04:13

So god, I don't know where the story

1:04:15

begins exactly. It kind of with Tony

1:04:17

a little bit, because I think I followed

1:04:19

you because of Tony. So Tony

1:04:22

was a podcast listener and Kojak

1:04:24

like started a side conversation with him

1:04:26

and had him sending him breads and stuff.

1:04:30

And Tony has this amazing restaurant,

1:04:32

and so then I became friends with Tony. And

1:04:34

then you have you're

1:04:36

a baker and your desserts are featured

1:04:38

there, and so I followed

1:04:40

you through that and then you're baking

1:04:43

and your glam and your style,

1:04:45

your hair, your glow.

1:04:48

What's not to follow, you

1:04:50

know? So anyhow,

1:04:53

today we are taking

1:04:55

the old podcast model

1:04:58

of food tests, where I would test their

1:05:00

palate basically judgmentally

1:05:03

and pretend there's objective truth about food

1:05:05

taste.

1:05:06

And we're now expanding

1:05:09

to real food in studio

1:05:11

with video.

1:05:13

Do you describe our three categories

1:05:16

because I don't want to mess it up.

1:05:17

Okay, so we said viral recipe,

1:05:20

yes, old fashioned recipe I

1:05:22

think.

1:05:22

Just because we both follow that one

1:05:24

lady, Yeah, Pastime Cook, Pastime

1:05:27

Cook, who I love. I also

1:05:29

love her. She does something that I've also

1:05:31

always been obsessed with, which is she

1:05:34

investigates what we're people eating centuries

1:05:37

ago or whatever.

1:05:37

And I've always wondered that, like, if I

1:05:40

sat down in the Middle Ages at a banquet,

1:05:43

how much of the food would be inedible and how much

1:05:45

would be better than anything.

1:05:46

I've ever tasted? Absolutely okay?

1:05:48

And then the final category.

1:05:50

Is just my own kind of

1:05:52

take on the lemon challenge so

1:05:55

much okay?

1:05:55

And you can make up a baked recipe.

1:05:58

Yeah, that's so amazing because like

1:06:00

I like to cook improvisationally,

1:06:03

but it's hard with baking

1:06:05

because you have to know the science really well, right,

1:06:07

it's all.

1:06:08

Like rooted in you know, other recipes

1:06:10

and kind of like mashing things

1:06:12

up and seeing what works.

1:06:13

Okay, because that's kind of how I cook.

1:06:15

I look at like five recipes that are vaguely

1:06:17

in the wheelhouse of what I want to do, and then I make

1:06:19

up my own kind of mashup.

1:06:21

But I feel like with baking, it would just be disastrous

1:06:24

if I did that. All right, So

1:06:27

we're gonna reveal the

1:06:30

category for today's Food

1:06:33

Test extravaganza. Lemon

1:06:39

is the theme on top

1:06:41

of these categories of oh,

1:06:44

viral and grand new

1:06:46

mashup? Which

1:06:48

is which? Unfortunately I might know,

1:06:52

but.

1:06:52

I'm gonna try to guess anyway, and

1:06:55

which one is the tastiest.

1:06:57

All right, Let's what do we try first? Here?

1:07:00

Um?

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Maybe start with this this guy?

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Okay, so what is this? Okay?

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So this is a lemon

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pound cake that I wow.

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Let's see what we're doing here work.

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I think we should try together because you haven't tried the finished

1:07:16

product, you know, okay, lemon

1:07:18

cake? Wow, the icing, the glaze. I mean,

1:07:20

I hate to say, I really wish I had coffee right now.

1:07:23

I just realized, like Padma locks me or

1:07:25

whatever, like I feel like they have one bite of everything.

1:07:27

I'm like, uh, oh, are

1:07:29

we supposed to move on to try like okay,

1:07:31

thirty things? Okay,

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so that's number one? Very

1:07:37

good, thank you. I hate to say

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I could go even harder with lemon. I

1:07:41

could go even harder. I want to see this is

1:07:43

the viral one because I think I

1:07:46

don't know. All right,

1:07:48

So now what is this little lemon cup?

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This is a lemon posset, which

1:07:54

is actually like a very.

1:07:56

Passage for a second, what okay,

1:08:01

lemon pause.

1:08:01

It kind of like a panna cotta, which is

1:08:04

like cooked cream.

1:08:05

And they're beautiful again, so

1:08:07

look at this, come on kidding

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me, tiny, I thought it was like

1:08:12

a little gelato or something. That's incredible.

1:08:16

Do you not like it?

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No?

1:08:17

I do, perfect texture, don't

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you think?

1:08:20

Yeah?

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Oh yeah, so creamy, and

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I'm not like a pudding person. This is kind of like a

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pudding. Yeah, but it's so good.

1:08:27

Controversial opinion. Put

1:08:29

this with this and try it together. Yeah,

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let's see what happens there. That

1:08:35

was so good. This is actually like private

1:08:37

eating on camera.

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You are a recipe tester. You I would love

1:08:41

to be. This is how I'd eat in

1:08:43

private, like combined to desserts. Then

1:08:47

I'm like to my doctor, why is my cholesterol high? I

1:08:49

like healthy food. They're like, okay, you might

1:08:52

like it, but what else do you like? I'm like putting

1:08:54

on cake. Okay,

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that's really good, thank you.

1:09:00

It would be really good too with like fresh raspberries

1:09:02

or like pomegranate on it or that or something like that. Yeah,

1:09:05

it's so pretty delicious. Okay,

1:09:08

now this one's daunting to cut into. Actually is

1:09:10

this edge paper

1:09:13

paper? Yeah? Now what is this called?

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This is a preserved lemon

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curd streuicul cake.

1:09:20

Ooh, I like this sound of that. Now

1:09:23

it's weird. Like I don't know if you have this, but for

1:09:25

me, I have trouble like trusting people

1:09:27

if their food taste is like I don't

1:09:29

know if I'm friends with anyone who doesn't like all of us.

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Oh you know what I mean? Yes, yeah, like

1:09:35

if people don't like lemon, it's like questionable.

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But I don't think anyone

1:09:40

could like it as much as I do. Yeah,

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you know, we all have.

1:09:44

Like art, I get like a preference.

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What's your absolute obsessions in the dessert

1:09:49

world?

1:09:49

I feel like that it's the things that I like don't make

1:09:51

on my own, so like croissants

1:09:54

because it's just not something because I started as like

1:09:56

a home baker, so I didn't go to like pastry

1:09:58

school.

1:09:59

Okay, this looks so

1:10:01

soft. Wait, I forget what you said.

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This is called preserved lemon

1:10:04

curds drusel cake.

1:10:06

I mean the degree of lemon is absolute?

1:10:18

This yours? Should I tell you?

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Now?

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This is Yeah, it's so good. Did

1:10:23

you intentionally make yours the best one.

1:10:27

No, you go and look

1:10:29

for like a viral recipe like this.

1:10:31

Okay, Like I know

1:10:33

these ingredients aren't quite up to I

1:10:35

just wanted to have a good like contrast of

1:10:37

different like yeah.

1:10:39

So what was this called the viral wan? This

1:10:42

is the right, that's

1:10:45

the one. Yeah, this is the old one. Interesting.

1:10:47

So yeah, it's like there's this is like what old

1:10:49

ladies would have with like tea.

1:10:51

And it would be great, It would be really good with tea.

1:10:53

But I do the level of lemon in the

1:10:55

other two is so much more intensive. Yeah,

1:10:58

that really speaks to me. I wonder what

1:11:01

is is there anything interesting about sour?

1:11:04

Why do some people like it and some

1:11:06

people don't like a lot of people hate sour,

1:11:08

and for me, sour is everything. In fact, I

1:11:10

think I had an acupuncturist once tell me not

1:11:12

to eat anything sour or spicy, and I was like,

1:11:14

for this reason, I'm out, I can't

1:11:17

do it.

1:11:17

I can't.

1:11:18

Well, I think this was a smashing

1:11:21

success. I can't wait for

1:11:23

Laura, our producer here today

1:11:25

to try these and weigh in.

1:11:28

I myself think yours was one

1:11:30

hundred percent the.

1:11:31

Best

1:11:34

that's all I needed.

1:11:45

Anyway. Well, I guess that's it. I mean, I've been

1:11:47

here for ten hours today. This

1:11:49

episode will be ten and a half hours

1:11:51

long by the time I record the intro. So

1:11:53

amazing. I guess are you staying in

1:11:55

la you head and back to OHI I'm gonna hang

1:11:58

out.

1:11:58

I usually just try and make.

1:11:59

A day of it.

1:12:00

Nice. Well, welcome, Nice

1:12:02

to meet you in person.

1:12:03

Who know I.

1:12:03

Already thought I had yes true

1:12:06

Instagram fashion? All right,

1:12:08

thank you so much? Thank you? Show?

1:12:13

Whatly gonna get? Dingingg oh, looks like out of time? Goodbye,

1:12:16

looks like we're out of time. The show has come

1:12:18

to a close. We do not

1:12:20

have any more things to

1:12:22

discuss or more guests. You

1:12:25

seem like a real sweetheart, but I gotta

1:12:27

go. It's the end

1:12:29

of the show. What did

1:12:31

we learn? Flies

1:12:43

can live in your body?

1:12:51

I don't need to know that, you

1:12:53

don't need to know that, but now we

1:12:56

know that. Okay, no

1:12:58

thank you? Epitome of no

1:13:01

thank you?

1:13:03

No thank you? What does that smell like?

1:13:06

No thank you? Can you just

1:13:08

show it to me? Doctor? No

1:13:10

thank you? Oh

1:13:14

my gosh, Well, anyhow you

1:13:17

gotta watch that show? Save my skin absolutely

1:13:20

wretched in a wild wild

1:13:22

ride. You gotta go to O High, Indi.

1:13:25

You gotta get your makeup

1:13:27

done by a Hollywood caliber

1:13:30

makeup artist and get

1:13:32

deep into the viral trends

1:13:35

where nothing