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Guess who's here everyone for the listener,

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Paul Sheer, comedian

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Paul Scher, director, writer

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pa.

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Or Yeah for a ps oh of course. And you know what

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I have to tell you that it is somebody who

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wants sound effects at the ready.

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This is my favorite thing. I love

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watching your show and now I get to see and

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be near this machine.

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Let me tell you. I was listening to the last

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episode in my car today because

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we trim them down a little bit sure, and

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I was like, God, it's just you know, obviously

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it is my show and hopefully I would

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like it, but I'm

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like, these sound effects really hit the spot

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in a way. They're the best that normal

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conversation can't, you know, like

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to be able to play crickets.

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It's to me, it's the best I need to

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I'm gonna because I have tried

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to do sound effects. I have boards and trying to put it

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all together, but this feels special

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to me.

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Thank you, Coller. I forgot you were here. Do you agree

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or do you think that are annoying?

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I love them. I love the sound effects.

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This one is long.

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It's long, this one I

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caller. I want to get to you in one second and

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say that I my son loves

1:21

playing basketball, and for the last

1:23

couple of years, every birthday party

1:25

is a basketball birthday party, so that everyone

1:28

plays. He is nine and

1:30

so I don't

1:32

play. But I sit on the side with a

1:34

full sound effects board and I

1:36

am the announcer and the DJ and

1:39

sound effects and the sound effects.

1:40

Wait sound effects during the game.

1:43

So it's like or

1:45

it'll be like you know, sometimes it will be like NBA jam

1:48

sound effects like on fire, or

1:50

like more positive

1:53

because adults are playing too. Oh okay,

1:55

so I I mix it up.

1:57

It does feel like a dangerous

1:59

and taking like someone could just come up and fucking

2:01

punch you in the face.

2:02

I know.

2:03

That's why. Yeah, I do have a I have

2:05

a bodyguard with me at all time. It's

2:10

I but you know what, I'm an entertainer and I

2:12

have to be able to do my stuff to the bone.

2:15

That's what I tell you. I was like, get ready to edit

2:17

this episode down because I'm gonna say everything's

2:19

on my mind.

2:20

We'll get three episodes out of one Paul Sheer

2:23

episode. That's kind of the rule of thumb.

2:26

This is so good, this is great.

2:28

I just did realize though it's way past

2:30

my threshold for coffee.

2:31

It is a later it is a later time.

2:33

It's literally five o'clock. I will be up. I

2:36

will be up. What is my schedule?

2:38

Oh, I cold plunged a little

2:40

bit earlier too, so that's going to be keeping me up too.

2:42

And I have such a busy day tomorrow. Oh

2:44

my god, this was a mistake.

2:48

Don't caller, Wow, you really drink that quick?

2:50

I chugged it, Coller,

2:53

Yes, hey, are you still there?

2:55

Yeah?

2:58

Okay, here's a couple of things on our mind.

3:00

All right, are you a highly

3:02

sensitive person? Have you heard that? Do you have any

3:04

kind of diagnosis that

3:07

informs how you live your life? That's one we're

3:11

also looking for. Behind the scenes. Do you

3:13

have a real job, not some Hollywood

3:15

bullshit, Like a real job, real job where

3:17

you can tell us the ins and outs of behind the scenes,

3:20

A.

3:20

Real job that would we be interested

3:23

in going, Yeah, because it's like like,

3:25

if you work at like McDonald's, I'm

3:27

interested in what the behind the scenes. But if you're like,

3:29

oh, I work in like a wealth management firm, I'm

3:31

not interested in.

3:32

That probably is pretty josy.

3:34

Yeah, but I want to I want to have the thing I related

3:36

to you. I want to get into the nitty like a

3:38

parking lot, like I'm into that.

3:40

I'm fascinated by the world of the valet.

3:42

I think that would make a great documentary. I've signed

3:44

up a farm. I'm sorrying again.

3:47

Now, now can I ask this question?

3:50

You have this?

3:50

Yeah, but not now

3:54

listen. I already asked Kojak but

3:56

he hasn't delivered, hasn't

4:00

delivered Coja has

4:02

delivered,

4:06

hasn't delivered drunk,

4:20

though he did deliver like five thousand songs

4:23

on the most recent episode, he hasn't.

4:25

I wanted a super charged gavel sound,

4:27

so you president, it's like huge, oh

4:31

you know, you

4:38

know, uh, he has not delivered

4:40

that. So I but I have to say

4:43

this is funny to me. The patheticness

4:45

of how it's

4:47

like it almost feels like if a judge

4:50

ruled you guilty and they went you'd

4:52

be like, I don't think I'm actually guilty, Like I

4:54

don't have to go to jail.

4:55

This actually sounds worse than like the kid

4:58

one that has like that.

5:01

It doesn't seem powerful. I don't know if

5:03

it's yeah like and also it

5:05

bounces. I feel that this part should be well

5:07

can.

5:08

I try this? I mean, I don't want to hurt your tip. But no,

5:11

but that's doesn't No, yeah, you needs.

5:12

To be That just looks like you're playing in

5:14

your kitchen. Yeah you know right, Yeah, but

5:17

this is a gabble.

5:19

Well that's not a game. Well you have to realize.

5:20

It's crazy though, how like much

5:23

the bottom part jumps?

5:25

Yeah, I feel it's do they By

5:27

the way, we haven't gotten to this question.

5:29

I know we haven't.

5:30

We haven't even told you. We haven't told you.

5:32

However you identify. I don't even want to call

5:34

people sir anymore. These old timey showbiz

5:36

terms are not slurs. Okay,

5:42

we also are interested in ricotta.

5:45

Okay, canolip paul

5:48

is pro canoli dip?

5:50

What do you think again?

5:51

Hold on?

5:53

Well, first of all, let me tell you I had an issue

5:55

with the Cannoli dip that was represented

5:57

on the previous show because

5:59

it felt like it wasn't really

6:02

the canoli dip that we deserve. And I'm gonna tell

6:04

you something, as a person who lives.

6:06

There, definitely wasn't. I mean, we agree there,

6:08

I'm not.

6:09

Yeah, as a person who grew up, I'm Italian,

6:12

I grew up in an Italian household.

6:13

That's why we're both shouting.

6:19

I have not said yeah.

6:24

We were talking with our hands. You should see. I'm the chamburger

6:26

drink. I feel like there's

6:29

two types of canoli, one that

6:31

has like a delicious like

6:33

inside filling, and one that's rakatta,

6:36

and that is the one that I

6:38

don't like. Raccatta is

6:40

disgusting to me. It's like eating

6:43

cottage cheese.

6:44

Well, what's the good one made out of?

6:46

I don't know. It's cream scream. No,

6:48

it's not cream cheese. It's like a I

6:51

don't know. I know that, like

6:53

I know that. I've never

6:55

been more disappointed when when my

6:58

mom, who was a great chef, for my birthday,

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she said, I made you canoles and I was like, I'm

7:03

so excited.

7:04

Marc scapon or

7:07

ricotta.

7:08

Okay, it's Marscapone, then it has to do. Yeah,

7:10

sorry, although Marscapone, I don't well, I'm

7:12

sure it is. It's gotta be gotta be.

7:14

It says it's one or the other.

7:16

All right, then Marscapone. That's a caller,

7:19

Marscapone Orcutta, thank

7:23

you.

7:24

I don't know what sound to give.

7:27

Yeah, it's a groat. I used to get those

7:29

tubs in the house, like remember those like yellow tubs.

7:31

You okay, so

7:34

what's up?

7:37

But I want to clarify that Paul

7:39

said he does like ricotta.

7:42

No, I love

7:44

Canoli dip and if you get the right

7:46

Cannoli dep St. Leonards, Canoli dep is

7:49

one of the best things. And I

7:51

will also go to the mat and say that you just have

7:53

to get if the filling is

7:55

good, that's all Canoli dip is. It's

7:57

just the filling. It's like hummus

8:00

and Peter.

8:01

You just you know, when I met you, I never

8:03

would have imagined, like if you were like you can peek

8:05

forward at the future, that you'd be screaming at

8:08

me about can dip in my face.

8:10

This is this is where we've got.

8:12

We've become so close over the years.

8:16

Call her, what's your job? And do you have

8:18

any backstory on that? Or

8:20

canos? We

8:23

ran that up.

8:25

Now. I think that, uh,

8:28

you know, you guys were a bit prescient on the whole sensitivity

8:31

and uh profession

8:34

question. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna conflate them.

8:36

I'm gonna I'm gonna bring together into

8:38

where I'm atitxercise moment. Okay,

8:41

I would say I am as a person,

8:44

okay, and my job is

8:46

I'm.

8:46

An attorney, okay, And

8:49

I.

8:49

Just started a new job as an attorney. And

8:52

it all happened because of my sensitivity.

8:56

Uh

8:59

where literally playa One

9:01

day, somebody just sent me in roote email and I

9:04

was like, I don't want to be here anymore, and

9:07

I.

9:09

Like, I like somebody who does, Like

9:11

I just want to go into that first sion because I like anybody

9:14

who after an emails

9:16

like piece like a real like

9:19

you didn't put too much thought into it. You

9:21

were like that was the final straw. Like

9:23

we always say like that's the last straw, but very

9:25

rarely do we go that's the last straw.

9:27

And I'm out.

9:28

Can you dig the email up and read it to us? Omitting

9:31

any names.

9:33

I'll just say that, like I literally was away

9:35

on vacation. I did all the precautions.

9:38

I had everybody lined up, like talk to

9:40

this person, talk to that person, and

9:42

the person who's emailing me, all of a sudden just

9:45

unnecessarily moved it up the chain,

9:47

like got all the bosses involved.

9:49

Added they added more important

9:51

people to the chain. That's so fucking

9:54

that's such bit shit for.

9:56

No reason, and so I called them out on

9:58

it and I was like, why did you do that? Yeah, like you

10:00

didn't need to do that. And then and then

10:02

and then I get like a text from a recruiter

10:05

being like, uh, you know, it

10:07

was so all of it happened very you know, serendipitous.

10:10

Like I got a text from a recruiter and they're like,

10:12

do you want to interview for jobs? And I just

10:14

replied yes, and then it was.

10:16

Over, Oh shit, mic

10:18

drop bam. I'm just like, yes I

10:20

do.

10:21

Now do you think and I'm I'm

10:24

appreciative of what you did do, but

10:26

do you also think that you let the other person win? You

10:30

quit when yeah, like or

10:32

no, like that person tried to screw you over, and

10:34

you're like, I'm out, like did that person

10:36

win? Because I think that you won, But

10:39

I'm also thinking that that other person thinks

10:41

that they won.

10:43

You know, I don't think they won because you

10:45

know, now bring into an abyss.

10:48

And I'm not there and great,

10:50

I like it, all right, good, so they went down, they went

10:53

something went down. Then when you left, I like that,

10:55

all.

10:55

Right, So what do you do now?

10:58

I'm still an attorney. I'm just went to a bigger,

11:01

better job.

11:01

That sensitive attorney.

11:03

I wanted you to be like eye clean toilets, and

11:05

then it would be there.

11:09

That's a sound effect you need to be having on

11:11

this copy written. No,

11:14

No, that isn't you know that's a that

11:16

that's perfect. It's it's

11:18

a part of the sound effects library. Because I remember

11:21

when I was scoring one of my shows. I

11:23

was going through and I was like, oh, it is all the Larry David movie,

11:25

all the Larry David music is just

11:28

in those like music libraries.

11:29

No, yes, we gotta get it.

11:31

And by the way, of course it is because

11:34

like that's so par for the course of like

11:36

Larry David, he's not having a composer. He's like, ye

11:39

that thing.

11:40

Wow, Collar,

11:44

you're a lawyer. Are lawyer's assholes?

11:47

Uh?

11:47

You know.

11:48

I think that there's a bad reputation for

11:50

Lloyd's being an asshole.

11:52

That would be a yes, you have to

11:54

be you have to be an asshole, right.

11:56

You gotta to get the you gotta get the.

11:58

You gotta win those cases. Is anatomy

12:00

of the fall real I.

12:02

Don't, I don't, I mean, I think it just depends on what field

12:04

you're in. You know, yeah, you

12:07

know what, Yeah, you know what. Yes, we're assles, were rassles.

12:09

Let's just put it to bed.

12:10

Wrackles. We're rassles, grackles, w raffles, we'rerackles,

12:12

raffles, crackles, grassles, crackles, grapples,

12:14

crackles, raffles, crackles, grapples, crackles,

12:17

rassle.

12:17

Tasshole, caasshole, casshole, casshole, casshole.

12:19

You know, well, no, but what do you but But but even

12:22

if you are fighting for the right thing, you have to

12:24

be you have to flip

12:26

it right, you have to get in there. You have to win a

12:29

fight an.

12:30

Argument, Yeah, you have to.

12:32

Yes, you have to be intense and committed

12:34

to your argument. And also it's like, you know, I learned

12:36

these lessons all the time where it's like I kind of will

12:39

give up a little too easily, you know. So

12:41

it's like sometimes I literally have to tell myself, like

12:44

I have to stand here and not even leave,

12:46

you know, like before you know, I

12:48

get what is needed. So I

12:51

guess that's can be an asshole sometimes, you know, making

12:53

people uncomfortable.

12:54

Yeah, I don't know, all right, thank you I

12:56

forgot to mention that iHeartRadio

12:59

was like, we like it when you hang up on people faster.

13:01

So get ready for a rapid

13:04

trigger trigger or our finger

13:08

trigger finger collar

13:11

collar.

13:12

HI have some work secrets.

13:15

Who all right, let's

13:18

get right down here

13:20

we go partial,

13:24

we have to hear what this?

13:25

Okay? How did you even know we were talking about

13:28

work secrets? I posted it on Okay,

13:30

I just posted call.

13:32

I understood the assignment.

13:33

I don't play.

13:34

I didn't. Yeah, I posted it the wrong way. Okay,

13:37

what do you got?

13:38

Oh for my I

13:40

was actually just journaling about my first

13:42

job ever and how it has scarred me

13:46

for life. So my first job, I had

13:48

to dress up as a like eight foot tall

13:50

cow for an ice cream shop.

13:52

Okay, you know casual.

13:55

Top And it comes to.

13:56

My boss and his wife used

13:58

to watch me on the security

14:00

cameras from their house. They would

14:03

always call in and be like, why isn't

14:05

Claire mopping the floors?

14:07

Or as a wait

14:11

So you had to dress

14:13

up as an eight foot talk cow and then do

14:15

menial tasks like you weren't out in front, like

14:18

spitting a sign.

14:19

I would have to do both. I would have

14:22

to greet the children who also listen.

14:25

You know what, that's countrageous.

14:28

That is coutranging.

14:35

Okay, that's me doing my own joke. Okay,

14:38

wait, so you had to dress

14:40

up as an eight foot I would say that's.

14:42

Utterly outrage Yeah,

14:47

you guys are quick, I can see you.

14:49

Why we still

14:51

don't understand the mechanics of this. You're dressed

14:53

as a cow mopping.

14:54

Were you getting in and out of a costume? Or

14:56

you put on a costume? Then you had to do everything

14:59

both both?

15:00

So they wanted to see my my work in

15:02

and out of a cow costume? Could I scoop

15:04

ice cream and a cow costume? Could I get

15:07

I used to get kicked by kids and their

15:09

parents would be like, yeah, I get them.

15:11

Instead of like.

15:12

Instilling maybe you don't kick cows on

15:14

the street, I would just have to kind

15:16

of take it.

15:17

This is a fetish.

15:18

I also want to just break down the idea

15:21

that this is my own thing

15:23

that no one finds funny but me. But I'm gonna say

15:25

it anyway.

15:25

Let's skip it.

15:28

Like, all right, so you are a cow scooping

15:31

ice cream, which means like, yeah, you are

15:34

scooping your own stuff to give to like,

15:36

it's it's a lucky chicken.

15:37

Remember I

15:40

loved that when I was younger.

15:41

See, I find that I have the same issue with UH

15:44

with m and ms. They're standing around

15:47

at these parties where people are eating M and ms and they're

15:49

talking and I'm like, or are

15:51

you yeah, you're letting your friends go to slaughter?

15:53

I don't know, right, they should be screaming

15:56

at the top of their lungs.

15:57

So okay. So the bosses would watch you on a security

16:00

camera and be like, why are

16:03

you not doing enough work?

16:05

Yes? Yeah, and it would call

16:07

in. There'd be no one in the story, be the middle of winter

16:10

and it was solely an ice cream shop,

16:12

and you know, it would take ten to fifteen minutes and kind

16:14

of lounge on the counter, you

16:17

know, maybe go on my phone. And as soon

16:19

as I like would stop working, the boss would

16:21

call on the on the phone and I would see their name

16:23

and I'd be like shit, and I would like, grab a rag

16:25

and go start cleaning.

16:27

Outrageous. Was the costume at least warm

16:29

for the winter?

16:30

Yes, it was warm in the winter and then really

16:33

hot in the summer. And one of my coworkers once

16:35

threw up in it, and they were used to get it

16:37

professionally cleaned for so

16:40

bad.

16:41

Calm out, calm out. What's the name of this place?

16:43

Legally, I can't have it.

16:45

It's no longer and it's

16:47

no longer a business.

16:48

But it's called Queen.

16:50

Queen under the table.

16:52

We can They're close.

16:53

They're not even open anymore. Queens. My

16:56

dad lived in Flushing. I wish I would have gone.

16:58

I would never have tried to kick you, though, so

17:01

it really.

17:02

Humbled me and Chelsea.

17:03

I do have a food task.

17:04

What is it really? It's one and done

17:07

caramelized onions.

17:08

I think they're good. Yeah,

17:11

you're right, yally,

17:16

I mean, I don't know who could I guess?

17:19

Yeah, it seems like one that would be hard

17:21

to refute.

17:23

You know, if I may, I've

17:25

been eating a caramelized onion almost

17:28

every morning for the last sixt week.

17:31

Wait, that

17:34

breaks on because

17:40

you caramelized onion.

17:42

No, no, no, you can't condiment

17:45

breakfast cereal.

17:48

Try me, if you try hard enough, you can make

17:50

any.

17:50

Wait, so you're just like throwing a whole onion

17:52

in a frying pan in the morning and just like getting

17:55

it all sugared up.

17:57

You tricked us I don't eat.

17:58

I don't put any sugar. I just do olive

18:00

oil and a little bit of water and salt.

18:03

I hung up. I

18:07

think my heart is right. They were like, you know

18:09

what, it's fun hang up more and they're

18:11

right. I feel free. Hello the

18:15

name?

18:15

Hi?

18:15

How are you? I'm here with Paul Sheer? Uh oh?

18:18

I can't have that dog bar?

18:19

What's up?

18:19

Dog?

18:20

One more bark and it's over, no

18:23

go away. Okay.

18:26

We're talking about behind the scenes, crazy

18:29

work stories. We're talking about highly sensitive

18:31

people. What is that another diagnosed? We're

18:34

talking about ricotta and canoli. And

18:36

we also are talking

18:38

about Paul

18:41

Shear's list. Okay. I asked Paul, what do

18:43

you want to talk about on the show? This is the list? He texted

18:45

me. What's an appetizer? Okay,

18:49

I don't even know what that means. What's an appetisse?

18:51

What's appetizer? Like like, well,

18:54

like I'm saying, like sometimes people are like, well, can that

18:56

be an appetizer? I think it. I think that there's a

18:58

discussion to be had, like that could be

19:00

an appetizer, Like like little pieces

19:02

of steak on a stick is an appetizer?

19:04

We should start a group, a chat group

19:06

called What's Appetizer?

19:11

I don't know what I would use it for.

19:15

So the other one is silver lining finders.

19:17

You tell us what's bumming you out and we will find a

19:19

silver lining. Yeah, this is us, Like we're fixers.

19:22

We have we're broken from our childhood, fixing

19:24

our parents problems.

19:25

Yeah, this is that's what we do.

19:27

And the other one is friend favors. What's too much

19:29

or the bare minimum we expect from our friends.

19:32

That's a great one. Do nachos

19:34

get a bad rap? Okay,

19:37

do nachos get a bad rap? Flew

19:40

under the radar. I don't even remember reading that one.

19:42

I thought nachos, I thought that would

19:44

get nachos are great, But they do they

19:46

get a bad rap. I feel like people often

19:48

when you see that as people don't want to order

19:50

nachos for the table. They they'll

19:53

order chips and guac, chips and salsa.

19:55

People don't want to order nachos adults.

19:58

I don't really like nachos because like it's

20:00

too much worse, Like you get messy

20:02

eating it, like you kind of have to dig

20:04

for what you want.

20:06

That's so you get That's the thing. You don't know

20:08

what you're going to get. Maybe one chip has a lot

20:10

of cheese, one chip has a lot of you got it, You're

20:12

going in. It's it's a different bite. Everything is

20:14

a different bite.

20:15

But I think I want to know what I'm going to get if

20:17

I'm going to eat it.

20:18

Well, you know what you're gonna get cheese and beans

20:21

and uh and some jalapenos.

20:24

Just the ratio will be different.

20:26

I think the beans is where I'm

20:28

out.

20:29

Oh wow, Okay, Well, then you don't like nachos.

20:31

There was a place that did chicken tinga

20:33

nachos that I was addicted to. No

20:36

longer exists, never found anything

20:38

at all similar sense.

20:40

You know what?

20:40

I think you'd like that place downtown, that Indian place.

20:43

U it is, Oh,

20:46

it's very good. It's I'm gonna I'll

20:48

remember, is it?

20:49

Nanchos? Okay?

21:00

The final thing on your list, because I didn't even finish

21:03

all the topic ideas, is how are

21:05

our New Year's Eve resolutions

21:07

doing?

21:07

Yeah? How are we doing?

21:09

Yeah?

21:09

Chicken? How are we doing?

21:10

I mean, I didn't even make any because I knew

21:13

I wasn't going to be able to uh them

21:15

hold up. So like I guess I'm doing

21:18

great.

21:18

Yeah, you got a lot of options. What

21:21

do we What are you feeling drawn to?

21:23

I think I want to talk about canolas, thank

21:27

you, because so

21:29

many places they do canoli's

21:32

and they do the chocolate drizzle on

21:34

top.

21:35

But I just I just want I don't want that a.

21:37

Regular you know, ricotta cream

21:40

inside of whatever the canole

21:42

cookie is. Maybe some chocolate chips,

21:45

either throughout or.

21:46

On the edges.

21:46

But I'm done with the chocolate drizzle.

21:49

How about this, I'll throw out the whole canoli.

21:52

I don't like Italian desserts that much,

21:54

do I ah to turncoats.

21:58

Jake, those little pieces of this little cookies with the three

22:00

different colors.

22:01

I like them, but I can't say I'm ecstatic

22:04

about them.

22:04

No, I don't need no. Italian desserts are never very

22:07

good to me. I feel like when Laura

22:09

we.

22:10

Hate Italian desserts.

22:12

What do you think?

22:13

She's Italian? Right here?

22:14

Maybe we never know because these names are off.

22:17

Sorry someone else, I am Italian?

22:20

So what an entrance?

22:21

You don't like Cano?

22:23

Well? I do, Chelsea doesn't.

22:25

I say that Canoli is the best and

22:28

the rest. Cannoli is the best

22:31

and the rest cannoli is

22:33

the best, and the rest

22:35

canoli is the best, and the

22:38

rest canoli is the best, and

22:41

the rest pinola

22:43

cookies. Maybe those are good. I like those

22:45

if they're fresh and good.

22:46

They're all very dry. Italian deserts

22:49

are all like to go with coffee or like marsala

22:51

or something.

22:53

Well, yeah, now do you like raccutta

22:56

canoli or do you like a like a? I

22:58

think there's two different kinds of dream, right we

23:01

and Chelsea is telling you say it's mars, but

23:04

I don't buy it, you know.

23:06

What, I have to be honest, I haven't really looked

23:08

into what the cream consists of, and

23:10

I've always just kind of enjoyed it.

23:13

But did you ever Okay?

23:17

Hello? I

23:20

know I stopped myself from saying

23:23

the names out loud.

23:23

Because people are like, what do you mean? Sorry? Sorry

23:25

my name?

23:26

And so then I stopped doing it, But they are they always

23:28

in my head. I'm thinking or Dy Rants,

23:31

Jordy Rants? Whose

23:33

name? That is your name?

23:38

Name?

23:38

I pay my own home bill?

23:40

Yeah, what

23:42

a king?

23:46

How's we're going good?

23:48

It's going good. We are manic. We had some

23:51

coffee. I didn't realize it was like, damn

23:53

near five o'clock. How do coffee

23:55

have a big day tomorrow? I'm a little worried.

23:57

What do you got?

23:58

What?

23:58

What's in a Chelsea big?

24:00

Yeah?

24:00

Well tomorrow it's just like three things

24:03

for press.

24:04

For my Okay, I'm very excited about this movie.

24:06

Thank you you were helpful.

24:08

I want to see it so bad, Chelsea.

24:10

I am like the biggest fan, like I cannot

24:12

wait to see it. I have been following

24:14

you since forever, since the old

24:17

school days, and it's

24:19

gonna be great.

24:19

I guess who the movie is going to be dedicated

24:21

to?

24:23

Is it me?

24:33

You already right?

24:37

I'm about to cry.

24:43

Has brought his own sound effects

24:45

to the podcast you already can't imagine.

24:50

Oh my gosh.

24:51

So I have things to bring to the table

24:53

unless there's the topic. Okay, So

24:58

I'm sure if

25:00

I could do a Brazilian food test for you, because

25:02

I lived in Brazil and I

25:05

have a few things that I'd like to roll through.

25:07

Okay, Oh oh

25:10

good.

25:12

I don't know. In the first

25:14

time of the show's history, I

25:17

don't know.

25:17

I think an Asa e bowl is like that's

25:20

I whenever I have those. I like Ansai ball.

25:22

My question is is it always a bowl

25:24

because I only know like the weird la like

25:28

like eating disorder version of what

25:30

ASA is. I don't

25:32

know what it is in Brazil to eat as.

25:34

Yeah, it's like it's got granola sometimes

25:37

if you want, it's got like swey banana,

25:40

you can put coconut flakes.

25:42

And I do a vanilla protein pattern

25:44

there, so good me.

25:46

Too the way yeah, come on, now

25:48

they do that in Brazil too, the way too. So so

25:52

so is it yes or no?

25:53

Chelsea?

25:55

I guess I'll go yes. I mean, here's what my reservation

25:57

is. When I have tried these bowls.

26:00

They're too sweet, too

26:02

sweet.

26:03

Too sweet, peanut butter

26:05

in there.

26:06

Oh my god, so you know that peanut

26:08

butter. Peanut butter. Peanut butter is emerged

26:11

as a dark uh dark

26:14

theme in the podcast Lately, where everyone's

26:16

favorite snack is just peanut butter dogs,

26:19

and Adam Scott came on, we tried treater Joe's

26:21

food and every snack he loves

26:24

is peanut butter based, and I was just like, it's not

26:26

that good of a flavor. Everyone. No,

26:28

I I look, it's a protein mechanism.

26:31

I'll take that. I I will

26:34

enjoy a Reese's

26:36

Peanut butter cup, but a I

26:38

don't need to have to. I can't. I can't get

26:40

in there.

26:41

That's why I'm like, yeah, that's a whole different

26:43

thing. And Reese's peanut butter cups are good. Let

26:45

me let me be the first to.

26:46

Say, I think that's the best way

26:49

that peanut butter has ever been served as in a Resa's

26:51

peanut butter cup.

26:52

Well, have you tried asa stick? What is it?

26:54

It's the thing.

26:55

It's like it's like a twig spar but

26:58

it's got like like a wafer

27:01

like it's like it's like a yeah, so

27:03

it's in this it's a shape of a twigs bar with

27:05

a wafer center instead of cookie center.

27:07

Here's what I'm going to say. Almost

27:10

one certain that

27:12

Twix is better than that.

27:14

I agree, Yeah, I agree.

27:16

I mean I'm not I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing.

27:19

So that's yeah.

27:20

Okay, Okay, correct, correct, Okay.

27:24

Next chicken heart.

27:26

Wow you already he's gonna say yes. I'm

27:28

going to say no.

27:29

I know I'm going to say no.

27:32

Have you ever had him?

27:34

Follow up question?

27:36

I have? I have had a chicken heart and you liked

27:38

it?

27:38

Right.

27:39

Uh, yeah, No, I didn't love it. I didn't love

27:41

a chicken.

27:41

Heart, Okay.

27:43

I found it to be chewy and and like

27:46

I found it to be like it

27:48

like it was just a very chewy

27:51

piece of meat.

27:53

This is the thing with like awful not

27:56

a w f U L

27:58

but O f f A all like

28:02

body parts. I know they're eating all over the

28:04

globe and probably I could

28:06

acquire a taste for them and all that and

28:08

why but the texture of like brain,

28:11

the texture of like, you

28:14

know, the one thing I do like that might be gross

28:17

to people is like chicken gristle.

28:21

I say that, I mean, I understand what you're

28:23

saying.

28:23

Would you say you already.

28:26

Sorry? I don't like that very much.

28:29

All said to hang up. I'm sorry you'll

28:34

like gristle. You're out color.

28:38

We're doing a lot of rapid fire hang

28:40

ups, so please don't take a personal It's

28:43

a mandate from iHeartRadio. They

28:45

said, yeah, iHeart radio. Hanging

28:48

up on people almost instantaneously.

28:50

It's off your listeners. We want more of that.

28:54

Anyway. Do you like chicken grizzle?

28:56

Do I like chicken?

28:57

What grizzle?

29:03

Is that?

29:04

What that's like?

29:05

The neck?

29:06

No, that's no, that's a gizzard or something that.

29:08

No, this is like this is like the fat

29:11

around chicken, right, Like that's.

29:12

Like like it's like a it's like the

29:15

when you eat a chicken leg, the white cap

29:17

on the end of the bone. You ever known that?

29:19

Money?

29:21

No?

29:22

No, I don't.

29:22

I'm like, I'm not there yet.

29:24

Hung up. This is

29:26

horrible, I heard.

29:28

I don't know if this is it.

29:30

I like it.

29:30

We're getting way more collars and if we do it

29:33

this way. Hello, do you like chicken

29:35

grizzle? Chicken grizzle grizzle

29:38

grizzle?

29:38

Oh not really, I'm a vegetarian?

29:44

All

29:47

right, man?

29:48

This is like the Hello,

29:50

where are you calling from? England, Australia, Taiwan?

29:53

Where are you.

29:55

Australia?

29:57

Yeah, well,

30:06

let's throw another call on the

30:08

bar.

30:11

I know, can you imagine such

30:14

a good reference?

30:16

I've got to I've got a work

30:18

secret thing that's what you want.

30:21

And it's escape room related.

30:23

Oh I like this.

30:26

About eight about eight years ago,

30:29

maybe roughly, I worked

30:31

in an escape room and

30:35

the person who closed up the night before

30:38

didn't lock the dog properly, okay.

30:41

And then I also arrived late

30:43

because I was wrong about what time I was meant

30:46

to start. So when

30:49

I got there, the couple

30:51

who were the first booking of the day had

30:54

gone inside and treated

30:57

the entire building as

30:59

an escape room, going

31:01

into all different rooms looking for clues,

31:05

like into someone's office and

31:07

all different areas in this kind of warehouse,

31:10

and and they gathered

31:13

all these different things. When I arrived, they were

31:15

like, Okay, we think this key is important,

31:17

we think this thing is a clue. And they

31:20

were just seeing the entire building as one big

31:22

oh my, oh god.

31:26

They absolutely lost their minds.

31:28

They were in there for twelve hours. They're

31:30

like interlocking for maybe like

31:33

an hour or something.

31:34

I think, well, what I love about that is like

31:36

that they showed up and they were like, oh,

31:39

the whole thing is there's not an attendant.

31:41

We got to go in. And I love

31:43

I love that idea because it would they're

31:46

right, like they're like, okay, oh oh, this

31:48

door's kind of open. That's what they want us to do. Like

31:50

I can see themselves talking themselves into it

31:52

the entire time.

31:54

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy,

31:56

and it took a while to sort of bring

31:59

them into real and for them to come out.

32:01

Oh right, because they probably weren't believing you that

32:03

you're saying it's not an escape room.

32:06

How do you gage when to give someone

32:08

a hint or not. I'm into escape

32:10

rooms now. I don't know if you're aware of that or

32:12

not, but I did know that, Yeah, are you.

32:17

I can't find anyone to do it with me? Like that's

32:19

the tricky thing is my wife.

32:21

Is not gonna really June wouldn't

32:23

do it? Come on, Dune.

32:25

June thought where

32:27

I brought our for our anniversary

32:30

was an escape room and it was just a

32:32

nice hotel, like because it was like this

32:34

kind of like boutique hotel, like in

32:37

this weird area and it had like it

32:39

was very old fashioned, like

32:42

all right, I'm out and I'm like, no, it's

32:44

it's a hotel. She's like, no, it's not. I know it's scape

32:48

She literally was like she's like, I don't

32:50

want to do this. I don't want to play this game. And I'm

32:52

like, it's not. Like I was in the same

32:54

situation having to convince

32:56

her it was not escape room.

32:59

That doesn't bode well for that hotel.

33:01

I know they're decor It was a.

33:03

Little I mean, it was a little Walt Disney

33:05

like haunted mansion.

33:07

One time we went to well,

33:10

this is going to be a boring story anyway, sir,

33:12

what did you do? Did you ban them for life? Or

33:14

how did you handle this?

33:16

Uh? No, I just I mean they hadn't

33:18

done anything wrong. I guess the

33:21

reason this is sort of the work secret same

33:24

stories because I felt

33:26

bad about being like, oh, it's

33:29

not.

33:30

Really a work secret. It's more of a it's

33:32

more of just a funny story that happened to work.

33:34

That is funny though you're late, so people

33:36

run through every escape room thinking

33:38

it's all an interlocking world.

33:41

I think I didn't tell my bosses

33:44

at the time. Yeah, they were really nice

33:46

and probably would be okay with it. I think

33:48

that's the secret part because I felt

33:50

bad about being.

33:51

Slightly late, and we'll distort your voice.

33:54

I'm sure, Yeah, all

33:57

right, cut it.

34:01

Yeah.

34:01

I do love escape rooms. I need

34:04

if you have, you have a good wreck.

34:06

I'm looking for a new one. I'm

34:08

scared of, like, I don't want to do the escape rooms where

34:10

it's like you're in a cage and someone scary

34:13

escape rooms and it's like that's too much.

34:15

No, I look a smart, fun one. There's some good ones.

34:17

I'll show you what I got. Yeah, there's a good

34:20

podcast about escape room.

34:21

Really, God, God, there's

34:24

a podcast about fucking everything.

34:26

There's a there's a good one this guy Darren Boseman

34:28

does. It's not even an escape room. It's

34:31

like a horror experience.

34:34

And I went to one that was like

34:36

an adult slightly adult

34:38

because I saw like.

34:40

No thank you, no thank

34:42

you, no thank you,

34:46

no thank you, no

34:48

thank you, no

34:52

thank you, an adult

34:55

horror experience.

34:56

I'm like, well, it was like it was it

34:58

was this weird room. I went twice,

35:00

and the second time I went, I was brought up

35:02

into this room where like people were

35:05

like kind of fucking and I was like, oh yeah,

35:08

but not like not like.

35:09

The fucking as characters. Yes,

35:12

oh weird.

35:13

And then they did like a thing where the guy was

35:15

like came and then like touched

35:17

me, and.

35:19

That's not fun, you know.

35:21

I didn't want to escape room with Mosha that

35:24

had a live actor in it and it was

35:26

really funny, like you were it was. It was downtown

35:28

somewhere, I think it closed. I tried finding

35:30

it and it was

35:32

like you're in some old ladies mansion and you're trying

35:34

to have You're at a dinner party and

35:37

every time she leaves the room, you're trying to hunt for

35:39

clues. Great, but they're like you have to be

35:41

in your same seats when she comes back, and

35:43

that it was really fun. Collr

35:47

Hi. Hi, you like escape

35:49

rooms?

35:50

You know I've only ever been to one?

35:52

Okay, I don't. I guess that sort

35:54

of answers the question.

35:56

You didn't like it that much, but you The

35:58

thing I don't like about escape rooms is it seems

36:00

like you need a lot of people to go right or can you

36:02

just do two?

36:04

You got to get?

36:04

You need like about three or four, I don't know.

36:06

Let me tell you this. Me and Jordan started this

36:09

Sherlock Holmes mystery

36:11

thing, Okay, Like it's just like you get literally

36:13

like the case laid out for you. You have a

36:15

map.

36:16

Have you done this well? I got for June

36:18

for her birthday, I got her a cold

36:20

case file.

36:21

Yeah. It's kind of like that, but like set in the Sherlock

36:24

Homes the world at Multiverse.

36:29

I don't know, Spider Manlock.

36:33

So it was like a map

36:36

of London, a directory of contacts.

36:39

Anyway, we couldn't solve it. We still have to

36:41

finish it. But we're literally like reading

36:44

newspapers call it going

36:46

up and you know, following leads

36:48

going all over this fucking map of London.

36:51

And I'm like, I feel like we have no

36:53

idea who killed this man?

36:55

Well, that that is the cold case file I

36:57

gave June is about a high schooler who is killed

37:00

and you gotta figure out real No.

37:03

I mean I think because people

37:05

like, you know, like so many I'm so

37:08

late to everything. I'm always like this very late

37:10

adopter of things technology, but then

37:12

I get addicted. So you

37:14

know, everyone like it loves true

37:16

crime podcasts and stuff. So I finally, like, I

37:18

went to Santa Barbara and I listened to one on my drive

37:21

home, and now it's like I get the

37:23

appeal. It's like you're like, if I just think about

37:25

this enough, I'm going to figure out who murdered this.

37:27

Well it's then it becomes this like thing like I'm

37:29

in a weird zone where

37:33

I'm open to suggestion

37:36

that Scott Peterson did not kill Lacy Peterson

37:38

based on these these these podcasts

37:40

I've listened to, but I

37:42

don't.

37:42

Even know this case. Well, I just think that's a hilarious

37:45

zone to.

37:46

Me because it was the

37:48

media really made it like that Scott Peterson

37:50

killed his wife and pregnant wife and

37:53

that's what we And anyway, is this still one.

37:54

Rob Low played like lifetime?

37:57

Yes, I think, and so but

38:00

then there's been some evidence. But then I have another

38:02

friend who said, you can't think that. Here's some other

38:05

evidence. It's tricky,

38:07

it's tricky to get on. But he is getting a new trial.

38:09

Mm hm new trial.

38:11

Interesting.

38:12

So I mean, if if a judge

38:16

can have it, then you know, we'll see.

38:18

You know.

38:18

The one I really thought I could solve was

38:21

that little girl that was

38:23

in like the beauty pageants.

38:25

Oh John Benne, Yeah, that one.

38:28

I was pacing the floorboards

38:31

at night after watching a couple of things on that

38:33

and I'm like, okay, so it had to be like

38:35

I really felt it was within reach.

38:37

It's the brother. It has to be the brother.

38:39

Yeah, she ate his favorite snack.

38:41

Yeah right, It's like I feel like that's like, man,

38:44

you know, he.

38:45

Smeared fecal matter all over the place, blah

38:47

blah. But then there was also like a weird goal.

38:50

Her skull hole was the same

38:52

shape as the maglike flashlights, so

38:55

it was like the flashlights that had his fingerprints

38:57

on it.

38:58

Saw thank you, collar hang

39:02

up.

39:04

This way everyone gets to continue.

39:06

Yeah, it's great.

39:06

It's more fun, it's more democratic,

39:08

but it's also more dictatorial. But

39:10

it's also like you get out of the hut dictatorial.

39:13

Dictatorial is that a word? Maybe

39:16

it's a dictator, like yeah, dictorial?

39:18

Yeah?

39:18

Hi, And then I hang up.

39:21

That was his infat I would have been great,

39:24

that would have been amazing.

39:26

Thank you, so

39:30

help you don't the dog. If the dog barks, we are going to hang

39:33

up on you. Yeah.

39:34

No, I just have a cat.

39:35

He doesn't bark, all right, if I hung up

39:37

because I don't like cats.

39:38

Oh, another great moment.

39:40

I was talking to my friend who has like

39:43

my friend has OCD, and I was asking him,

39:45

like, what is it. Well, a

39:47

lot of comedians have OCD, is what

39:49

I'm learning. Yeah, and I didn't

39:52

know that intrusive thoughts is part of it, because

39:55

but.

39:56

Don't we all have intrusive I was intrusive,

39:58

so this is what I was saying.

40:01

But he agree, yeah, because

40:03

I go all the time. I'm like, like, literally

40:05

five times I've thought of hanging up on you, you

40:08

know, but you know, all the time, I

40:10

think like, what if I just veered my car and hit this

40:12

peron?

40:14

That's that's the thing you're.

40:15

Gonna do it?

40:16

Can you at least play the sound effect this

40:19

one?

40:27

But anyway, I was like, isn't that just like a comedian's

40:29

mind, like what if I did this? Wouldn't it be funny thing?

40:32

But he was saying like, no, it's like more extreme

40:34

to where like if he sees a steak knife, he's like,

40:36

what if I stab my boyfriend in the

40:38

leg with it to the point where he doesn't order

40:41

steak?

40:43

Oh that's

40:46

rough. Yeah, that may be more

40:48

than just like o c D.

40:50

That's something you should talk to a health professional about.

40:52

Probably, Yeah, that's not OCD. I feel

40:54

like that. I feel like a lot of people are out there

40:57

misdiagnosing themselves. That's

40:59

not OCD.

40:59

No, but I think it might be. I don't know. I

41:02

But then I'm like, well, then should I get this is where we're

41:04

talking about, like diagnosing? You know,

41:06

I'm like, well, am I OCD? Because

41:09

I do feel like I care so much

41:12

about things? Is that OCD? I

41:14

just feel like I want to know.

41:16

I think that there's levels of a lot of different

41:18

things you're talking about being an emotional person,

41:20

you care about like do you care about people

41:23

or do you care about how people view you? Or do you care

41:25

a lot about Like are you thinking about

41:27

like purely your family stuff?

41:29

Just like everything. I care

41:32

more about everything than most people

41:34

I encounter. And that's been since

41:36

I was a kid, like at school, Like I

41:38

just feel like, you know, when I was I was

41:41

in the car reading about highly sensitive

41:43

people or whatever, and it

41:46

was saying that twenty percent of people

41:48

are you know, but

41:51

it's not actually I don't think even a real

41:53

thing. But it said twenty.

41:55

Percent of people are it, okay

41:58

percent people are highly sense Yeah, okay,

42:01

so but that is like, you know, I don't think you

42:03

are. I don't think you can be because

42:05

you couldn't get on stage, right, No,

42:09

because like then, I think

42:11

if you would get on stage, it would be too overwhelming because

42:13

you'd be looking at too many people.

42:15

But I think it has different manifestations, Like it

42:17

was saying, like for some people, it's like loud

42:19

sounds are overwhelming.

42:21

That's a June thing.

42:22

Yeah, like I you know, and like you have

42:24

to retreat.

42:24

I sorry to interrupt, but isn't

42:27

that overwhelming for everyone that don't you get like disturbed

42:29

if all of a sudden something goes.

42:31

Off like yeah, exactly do you feel anything?

42:34

Or me for instance putting in on the conversation.

42:37

But that's also that's also autistic.

42:40

Maybe I'm autistic.

42:42

Get diagnosed. What if I was?

42:44

I mean, it's just kind of crazy, right, Like I I

42:46

just keep going what if? Everyone

42:49

just like what if?

42:50

Well, look I will tell you. I will say that I just want on

42:52

a vacation with my family. We're having a great day,

42:55

everything is going perfectly, and

42:57

then I get depressed.

42:59

I'm like, well, when is when is this going to end? Yeah?

43:01

What's gone? Something terrible is going to happen? And

43:04

that to me, like that's

43:07

an intrusive thought.

43:08

No, that literally was an

43:10

example in this highly sensitive

43:13

personal thing. Oh now I just have

43:15

Stu Leonards Canoli dip open on my phone.

43:18

I'm gonna made

43:20

out of I.

43:20

Looked it up when you mentioned it, and now I'm

43:23

like, wait, I had my highly sensitive people.

43:25

Okay, So one other thing I thought

43:27

it's said that was interesting. This is on very well

43:29

mined.

43:31

It's says, oh

43:34

this is Stu Leonards can dip is one of their best

43:36

sellers in the year.

43:37

Sieve that

43:40

we're jumping between can only

43:42

dip and highly sensitive people.

43:46

We should do simultaneous monologue.

43:48

Oh, this tells you how to make it. I think.

43:50

Okay, good figure this out.

43:52

Okay, I've been the most confusing, uh

43:55

conversation to just drop it on. But

43:57

I love everybody.

43:58

Okay, So Chelsea, Uh,

44:02

this is with ricotta, but it's

44:04

a different rikutta. This is milk

44:06

starter in salt, confectionery

44:08

sugar.

44:08

Oh.

44:08

Maybe that's what I'm looking for, vanilla

44:11

powder and uh and

44:14

salt. Okay, Okay,

44:17

maybe there's different kinds of recutta. Okay,

44:19

rocoot. That's my grandma calls it. Get

44:23

some.

44:25

I like that you're vamping with this right now because

44:27

I really am trying to find something. No one

44:29

thing that was interesting. This, this is very

44:31

wellmind dot com says. Research

44:34

also shows that a lack of parental warmth

44:36

growing up may cause a child to develop

44:39

high sensitivity.

44:40

But believe me, I I mean I I

44:44

what's your trauma, Paul. Oh, I've read a whole I've

44:46

read a whole book. My book is called Joyful Recollections

44:48

of Trauma comes.

44:48

Out really.

44:56

I've already pre ordered.

44:57

Yeah, thank you.

45:00

What do you think Paul's trauma is.

45:02

I mean, if I've listened to his podcast

45:04

for years, there's there's a lot going on from

45:07

the sounds of it.

45:08

Yeah, you're You're not wrong. I you

45:10

know, I think when I sat down to write the book,

45:13

more things came into focus than I even realized.

45:15

Repressed memories, not even.

45:17

Repressed memories, but like when you put it all down,

45:19

because I was like, I was very intent on going if

45:21

I'm writing a book, I don't want to just do like a bunch

45:23

of anecdotes. I wanted to tell like I

45:25

wanted to make it like bookworthy and then kind

45:28

of yeah, to not make it just

45:31

funny. Oh yeah, yeah. Then you're like, there's

45:33

some stuff, there's some stuff. But I think you're right. I think

45:35

that, like when you see issues

45:38

around you, you are.

45:40

Yeah, I think that sensitive people.

45:42

I mean, but I don't think that only

45:44

twenty percent of people are sensitive, highly

45:46

sensitive, highly sensitive. Well what's the difference.

45:50

I'm so annoyed that I can't find the paragraph

45:52

that spoke to me as I'm scrolling through

45:54

this, But basically I'm saying it actually could

45:56

correlate with like survival.

45:58

Here's okay. I'm gonna give you the test. I give you the highly sensitive

46:01

person.

46:01

Yeah, this is good, but site, I think site where

46:03

you're getting it from?

46:05

Okay, my personality dot

46:07

net?

46:09

Hold on?

46:13

All right? Okay, you

46:15

prefer a step by step

46:18

approach? Agree or disagree?

46:21

Disagree?

46:22

Agree? I can't do you both color.

46:25

Hold on, I'm hanging up.

46:29

You're a pretty moody person. Yeah, you're

46:31

a confident, outgoing person most of the time. I

46:35

don't know how to exactly I say, yes,

46:37

you prefer working alone? No, disagree?

46:40

Okay. Uh, you're able to stay on

46:42

track after your plans become disrupted.

46:44

No, that's hard for me. That's really hard.

46:46

Okay, so disagree. You

46:49

tend to remain cool, calm, and collected under pressure.

46:52

I can, but not always.

46:55

Well, that's what you gotta tell me.

46:56

Like I mean, for example, directing my movie, I felt

46:58

pretty pretty collected, considering

47:01

how challenging.

47:02

That's all right, that's good. You're comfortable discussing

47:04

unusual and controversial topics. Yes, okay,

47:07

sometimes you see we're gonna we're

47:09

gonna fit. This is too many questions, too many questions. You

47:11

enjoy a good argument or debate. Yeah, all

47:14

right, we're gonna get in there.

47:17

This is this is you could take this whole test, but a lot of

47:19

these I could go either way.

47:20

Well, I mean, yeah, I think it's sometimes you have to like, oh,

47:23

okay, okay, here it is. Okay, is

47:26

it highly sensitive autism

47:28

or ADHD? This is the thing?

47:30

All right?

47:31

So this is yes, So this is the

47:33

the overlap is sensory

47:36

sensitivity value driven

47:39

deeply impacted by emotional tone.

47:41

The all seem right?

47:43

This is like, yeah, this is a deep procrastination

47:46

or deep processing which

47:48

sorry, it was deep processing.

47:51

Both.

47:51

I agree with big emotions. Yeah, anxiety

47:55

when adjusting to new context, so

47:57

to warm up to new changes sensitively,

48:00

I don't know, not always. Okay, So this you

48:02

are You're right in the middle

48:06

of autistic

48:08

and highly sensitive, which might be ADHD.

48:12

This gives no information.

48:14

I mean, they have this cool graph right there.

48:16

Let me tell you because I took yeah, Meyers

48:19

Briggs, which I have talked about at length on

48:21

this podcast. But I was between intro extrovert

48:24

okay, queen thinking and feelings.

48:26

See, I wanted to write a whole chapter in my book called an

48:28

introverted extrovert because

48:31

I feel like there are I want to be alone

48:33

a lot, but then I also want to be out with the people.

48:35

Well, don't you feel like entertainment is kind of perfect

48:37

for that because you're like in a huge crowd

48:40

or on a set with tons of people, and then

48:42

you're just alone and go back to your trailer.

48:44

Yeah, okay, so this is interesting. This is highly

48:46

sensitive or autistic, and then there's a middle

48:48

ground. So if I think this is going to.

48:50

Be you, okay, you you

48:53

think I'm half autistic?

48:54

No, I think that you are in between

48:56

both, which is you have easily

49:00

overstimulated a

49:02

rich inner life.

49:03

Yeah, imagine

49:05

not having a rich in her life.

49:07

Well, do you prefer meaningful conversation about

49:09

shared interest versus small talk? Yes?

49:12

This is what does that make you? This

49:14

makes you in the middle a human beings

49:17

have small talk? Who's like I love small talk?

49:19

People do people?

49:21

But they're the sick ones.

49:23

All right? And then like this is autistic? Do you

49:25

I should keep on saying? I keep on?

49:28

Yeah.

49:29

Do you are you anxious when competing

49:32

or being observed completing a task?

49:35

Yes?

49:36

Time pressure is perceived as stressful. Yep,

49:39

you are highly sensitive. Yeah, this is

49:41

it. You're highly sensitive because everything. Yeah,

49:44

okay, you're highly sensitive.

49:45

But it's like that's apparently not even

49:47

a thing.

49:48

It's highly sensitive.

49:49

Well, that article that I was reading was

49:52

saying like it's not really

49:56

that's not a like like, okay, this very well

49:59

mind dot com article.

50:00

Okay, I can't wait.

50:04

That's it said that it's

50:07

a neurodivergent individual who's

50:09

thought to have an increased or deeper central nervous

50:11

system sensitivity to physical, emotional,

50:14

or social stimuli.

50:15

Okay.

50:16

The term was first coined by psychologists

50:18

Elaine Aaron and Arthur Aaron in the mid nineties.

50:21

Already suspect the nineties and nineties.

50:23

Come on a nineties label.

50:28

You get a free power bar when you're diagnosed.

50:31

Anyway, I do avoid violent

50:34

movies. I am deep. This is their list.

50:36

Being deeply moved by beauty, Yes, I am

50:38

wow. Overwhelmed by sensory stimuli.

50:42

Yes. I hate crowds literally

50:44

really avoid crowds like nobody's

50:47

business. However, if

50:49

I have VIP type

50:52

of treatment in which I can have access to a

50:54

bathroom.

50:55

Yeah and space, Yes,

50:57

space is important.

50:58

Then I'm fine with crowd.

51:00

Are you aware? Of the subtleties around you.

51:02

No, we have competing lists. I

51:05

am aware of the subtleties around me. I guess

51:08

I don't even know what that means.

51:09

Really, Well, you're kicking in like, oh, that person doesn't

51:11

like that person. That's an energy.

51:13

Oh my god, time is a racing

51:15

past all right? Sorry, Okay, having a feeling

51:18

a need for downtime, but who doesn't. Yeah,

51:21

having a rich and complex inner life. Like you're just

51:23

walking around like boom, you don't

51:25

hear nothings. Listen watching Love

51:28

is Blind? Are you watching?

51:29

I am watching pieces of it?

51:31

The hell does that mean?

51:32

Well, June is watching it, and I come in, I'm watching

51:35

Bosh right now.

51:35

I need to have June on this podcast. Okay,

51:39

that's my girl. I need June.

51:41

I can talk about it a little bit, I think maybe.

51:43

Well, anyway, the point, the only point I was going to

51:45

actually make, is just that sometimes when I'm watching

51:48

couples talk, I'm like, wow, so this is

51:50

what dumb people talk like.

51:52

Oh, well, these shows are the worst because it's like

51:54

they always are talking about talking like

51:57

I feel like, you know, it's like it's like, hey, you

51:59

said that thing. Like I was watching that one episode

52:01

where it was like, what was

52:04

the argument was so stupid? It

52:06

was like he

52:09

didn't wish she wore makeup that

52:11

thing. Did you watch that where he's like, I just didn't

52:14

like that you wore makeup.

52:15

No, I didn't see that. Oh, that's like that's

52:17

towards the end of the beginning.

52:19

Well, they're still in the middle of the season, right, because every

52:21

episode is one.

52:22

I'm all caught up, so I must have just somehow, yeah,

52:24

because.

52:24

It was like this whole thing is like you just wore makeup and it really

52:26

just made me upset. And she's like I didn't

52:29

know and I'm sorry, and he's like, you just wore makeup.

52:31

I just I don't know what's going on with

52:33

you.

52:33

I thought, are you sure this is this season?

52:35

I know it's a season. I think,

52:38

well, what a disaster.

52:41

I don't remember that.

52:43

Police Gina, How is that possible?

52:46

Is this you?

52:47

Hello?

52:48

Yes? Yes?

52:50

Yes?

52:50

Did you make your name? Paul

52:53

wants me to hang up instantly. Did

52:56

you make your name? Police Gina?

52:59

My name is.

53:01

Oh easy.

53:13

Police. You know I thought

53:15

you were a super friend.

53:19

Sorry?

53:20

Is that a big thing? No, it's not a deal. It's not

53:22

a deal breaker in our household. But we're just

53:24

talking about you know, Italian.

53:29

Oh my god, that is awful. Never

53:32

bring your own sound effect for it. That's

53:35

the lesson on that one. Okay,

53:37

wait, hold on, I almost knocked my knee

53:39

on. Okay. We're talking

53:41

about a lot of stuff, but

53:44

one of the ones I think is sorry,

53:51

one of the ones that I particularly

53:53

think is interesting we're talking about right now

53:56

is highly sensitive people.

53:57

Have you heard of this HSP?

54:00

Highly of the people is that people

54:02

who like their feelings are hurt a lot.

54:04

Yeah, kind of.

54:05

Yeah, but it's more of a disorder. No,

54:09

it's it is looking

54:12

up HSP. You could either be Some people

54:14

think, oh am I autistic? Or do I have HSP?

54:17

I don't. I don't think it is a disorder,

54:19

and neither is autism. Being

54:21

on the spectrum isn't like disorder. That's

54:25

okay, neurodivergent. I think the language

54:27

around all this has shifted to be a bit more

54:30

acknowledging that most people are on the

54:32

spectrum some way or another, and

54:34

also that it should be a gift.

54:37

I mean, by the way, I don't think I mean that's

54:40

yeah, I.

54:40

Mean, let's

54:42

use this as a clip.

54:47

Okay, I thought you guys were talking about work.

54:50

Oh yeah, but it went off the rails.

54:52

Now we're in this other place.

54:53

Speaking of divergent topic divergent

54:56

Okay, No, do you have a work story

54:58

behind the scenes.

55:00

Well, it's just that I made a major work

55:03

like career shift. That used to be a

55:05

therapist and then I

55:07

quit working for a long time because I have a bunch

55:10

of kids. And now I went back to work

55:13

and I'm doing something completely entry

55:15

level and it's just and I'm almost

55:17

fifty, and it's just really weird to be what

55:20

is my age?

55:22

What's the new thing you're doing?

55:25

So I'm working in a theater or box office.

55:28

From a therapist to a theater box office. This

55:30

is kind of what you like to see, like from the lawyer

55:32

to the guy who works in Well,

55:34

he didn't. He went to become a lawyer, but

55:36

we wanted him to go like work it another

55:39

fought. Yeah, right,

55:42

what theater do you work at.

55:45

Or what kind of it's Oh,

55:47

it's just like it's a performance venue for music

55:50

and comedy and all that kind

55:52

of stuff.

55:54

So, okay, you're fifty years old, you've

55:56

made a career change. This is I think

55:59

common right now, because I think the pandemic

56:01

kind of shook up a bunch of people's lives.

56:03

Did it play a role in any way? Were you sick

56:05

of giving therapy to people who are losing their

56:08

minds in the pandemic?

56:10

Well, I did a specialized kind of therapy

56:14

for people with severe personality

56:16

starters.

56:17

And wait a minute, were

56:23

we just talking about.

56:26

Okay?

56:27

Wait, do you think I have a severe personality?

56:30

This Twitter?

56:32

So I can't believe I got the jackpot.

56:34

This is like the highlight of my life. Second

56:37

of all, No, I mean I don't know you, so

56:40

I couldn't.

56:40

Say diagnose or diagnose or diagnos.

56:45

Never never never. No, I think I think you

56:47

have a great personality. I love your personality.

56:50

Do you think she's an HSP?

56:54

Yeah? Yeah, you're probably a highly

56:56

sensitive person. Are you also a tetro

56:59

cromat?

57:00

Oh?

57:01

What what's that?

57:03

It's like, it's not really related to a personality.

57:06

It's a person who can see more

57:08

nuanced than colors, like.

57:11

Oh, yes, I've heard about this, Like

57:13

what yeah.

57:15

You know, like I might look

57:17

at something that somebody else is saying

57:20

that's pink, and I'm going, well, it's

57:22

not really pink. It's kind of you know, more

57:25

yellow than you whatever. I'm just it's just like

57:27

a person who can perceive a lot more color.

57:30

It's not important, you know, I just know it is important.

57:32

This is You're right on the money here. This is what we

57:34

need. We need a professional to analyze

57:37

our personality.

57:38

I like this a lot. I want to give

57:40

you a color test right now.

57:42

Let me tell you, though, why you're looking for that.

57:44

Yes.

57:46

One thing is every time I am talking

57:48

about a color, I like, that's blue

57:51

to me, people are like, that's gray.

57:55

That's one thing.

57:56

Yeah.

57:57

Second of all, a lot of blue and gray.

57:59

Yeah.

57:59

So I also dress what

58:02

the dress thing? Right?

58:04

No, No, I'm talking about like paint colors. Actually,

58:06

but yeah, the dress was a whole different thing, wasn't

58:09

it Because it was like an optical illusion or something.

58:11

I don't think that's what What was that?

58:16

I I mean, I don't know that's that's also

58:19

that whole like Yanny Laurel

58:21

thing. I never that was

58:24

so bizarre. I could not believe

58:26

that anybody heard whatever the thing was that I wasn't

58:28

hearing. And same thing with the dress. I

58:30

don't know. It probably has something

58:32

to do with like cone receptors in

58:35

our eyes.

58:35

You know.

58:36

Okay, so I played this board game this

58:39

weekend that we

58:42

should link. Ut, I know, I really liked this, And I've

58:44

always tried to kind of be friends with Paul

58:46

and June but never really got much of a nibble.

58:49

Well that

58:52

we don't go, we don't.

58:53

I just always felt like me and June

58:56

and Casey should be buddies, and

58:59

I mean it would be a lovely action.

59:02

But listen, those two it's like a fortress

59:04

you can't get in.

59:05

Oh my gosh, you know what it is. It's I don't

59:07

think we even do that much. I mean, our lives

59:09

are basically just say, going to basketball games like

59:11

kids in soccer games, right.

59:13

Right, But listen, I do think that

59:15

my interests right now are really fruitful

59:17

for new friendships.

59:19

I feel interesting

59:21

you and seth Rogen.

59:23

Yeah, but I don't make, you know, stuff

59:26

like that.

59:28

What do you make it?

59:29

I'm making, like, you know, vases

59:32

and folk art and creatures

59:36

and whatever, right, creatures,

59:39

yeah, kind of. I made

59:41

a necklace like pendance. I'm just

59:43

trying all kinds of stuff.

59:44

I take a look, this is your color

59:46

sensitivity here.

59:47

Identify which color below is

59:49

the same color as the one inside the box.

59:51

Okay, well you know I also want to take that super

59:54

Tester taste test.

59:56

I have to order that from Amazon. Okay,

59:58

the one that's the same. Hmmm,

1:00:01

I think it is.

1:00:02

This is hard, Gina, talk

1:00:05

to me about that, because I I think maybe I have misread

1:00:08

it when I said, uh, there

1:00:11

is personality disordered and not anymore.

1:00:13

You got to click click it. You got

1:00:15

to take a couple of these, take a couple of let's see, le's

1:00:17

see if you're sensitive. I don't

1:00:19

think she's sensitive, but unless.

1:00:22

Are a thing. I just think the

1:00:25

whole idea of the spectrum is kind of

1:00:27

more where it's that got it. So it's

1:00:29

sort of like spectrum of everything.

1:00:30

We all have a personality disorder, but it's

1:00:32

like where we are, Like it's sort of like we

1:00:35

are all on the same rainbow. Some of us are

1:00:37

over here, some of us are over here, and that's

1:00:39

and that's the whole thing. We're on the we're all on

1:00:41

the road, but some of us were

1:00:44

different disorder thing.

1:00:45

I hope we move away at some point from

1:00:48

thinking everything is a disorder and illness

1:00:50

and malfunction because you don't

1:00:53

see anybody who you go, oh, yeah, that person

1:00:55

is just totally normal, right,

1:00:58

So like.

1:00:58

We are equating to me, there's a fall equivalency

1:01:00

that there's a normal and there's no normal.

1:01:03

I like that.

1:01:04

Now we're going to find out whether or not Chelsea

1:01:07

is going to have her color where

1:01:09

her sensitive color is. Now you work at a comedy

1:01:11

music venue. Are you happy

1:01:14

with this new life choice?

1:01:15

Paul's eliminated me as a host.

1:01:17

He's

1:01:19

literally put me on a screen like a child,

1:01:22

and now take it over my podcast. He already

1:01:24

brought his own fucking soundboard and

1:01:27

now he's truly eliminated one.

1:01:29

I want to see if you could do the color test,

1:01:31

like this is going to be important for us and

1:01:34

the show to find out. So what funny thing

1:01:36

happened.

1:01:39

That diagnostic?

1:01:40

Yeah, Gina,

1:01:45

you said there is nothing.

1:01:47

I'm just the one.

1:01:48

I'm in a soundboard spectrum.

1:01:55

That is hilarious.

1:01:56

I do have a can I I think

1:01:58

you should get a cund effect that I have. Is it

1:02:00

goes like this bazinga?

1:02:04

Absolutely not not in my character

1:02:06

in the slightest.

1:02:07

To have a you're you are definitely you.

1:02:09

It would be so much fun. A little bazinga this

1:02:12

is hard long. Oh

1:02:14

sorry, okay, wait, these tests are too long.

1:02:16

We need to have like a four question test diagnosed.

1:02:19

I know you know that this is just fucking

1:02:21

probably. You know that a lot of these things you're just feeding

1:02:23

AI, like you're just giving

1:02:26

AI data so that itnes

1:02:28

well.

1:02:28

I won't make you do it. I won't make you know, I mean I now,

1:02:30

I.

1:02:30

Want to know if I've seen these colors.

1:02:32

This is how they get you.

1:02:34

What funny thing happened to you?

1:02:36

Me?

1:02:37

Yeah? Or

1:02:39

is there a funny secret do you have about working at

1:02:41

this uh, this job, this new job.

1:02:44

No, it's no.

1:02:45

No. The thing I was gonna say about working is like it's

1:02:48

very I'm not fifty.

1:02:51

I'm closing in on fifty.

1:02:53

We don't we don't really distinguish, like

1:02:55

to me, I forget literally, first of all, I just had

1:02:57

a birthday. I forget how old I am.

1:02:59

All right, and then people get on my case,

1:03:01

like tell me how old.

1:03:03

I'm blotting it out because basically, as soon

1:03:05

as I was twenty eight, I'm like it's over. I'm thirty.

1:03:07

Yeah, and now I think I'm nearing fifty.

1:03:09

I'm like, all right, I'm some old hag like it's

1:03:11

all day.

1:03:12

I let it all drop out, yes, like, let it go, let

1:03:14

it go, let it go. Look, but my everyone's

1:03:16

intent on telling me how old I am. I'm like, what

1:03:19

do you care? I don't care that much.

1:03:22

We'll live.

1:03:23

But do you guys are

1:03:25

not?

1:03:25

I don't think. Well tell me, are

1:03:27

you in a position anymore where

1:03:30

people who are twenty two have

1:03:32

like a position above you?

1:03:35

Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I think we are. I think

1:03:37

that we are in a world where we

1:03:40

could be directed by somebody very young like that. We

1:03:42

have to work with people who are young like that. You know,

1:03:44

that's the you know, Hollywood, it's

1:03:47

all by the young people, right, I mean, come on, this

1:03:49

is it. The young people come in, they

1:03:51

tell us what to do, and then if we agree with them, we

1:03:53

get to stay in Hollywood. If we disagree, they kick

1:03:56

us out. They get us out of there, like

1:03:58

chaze, like, what's your decorum?

1:04:00

How do you?

1:04:02

Like?

1:04:02

What do you do when a

1:04:04

twenty two year old is telling you something

1:04:07

that you know is completely

1:04:10

wrong? But your job

1:04:12

is to say, okay, that's

1:04:15

if.

1:04:15

They're your boss, right, they're your boss?

1:04:19

Yeah?

1:04:20

Well, I mean I can say that I've listened to people

1:04:22

who are older than me be completely

1:04:24

wrong and you just listen to them and you

1:04:26

go, okay, as long as you're paying the

1:04:28

babe, you know, like as long as you're right in the checks, right.

1:04:31

I mean there's like because like that's the same thing.

1:04:33

It's like, why do we put more respect on the older

1:04:36

I talk to my parents sometimes they say things that are

1:04:38

completely wrong. I just go, huh, got got

1:04:41

it, Like you've listen and you know right. But

1:04:43

it feels worse when it's with a younger,

1:04:46

like you feel like, ah, I know more than you, right, you

1:04:48

feel like you should have that status.

1:04:50

But I think it's even that I feel like I

1:04:52

know.

1:04:53

More than them, it's that they feel it seems

1:04:55

like they think I know nothing.

1:04:59

Of course you don't

1:05:01

know.

1:05:01

I'm colorblind too. I have a

1:05:03

I have a very low color sensitivity.

1:05:07

Really what colors can't you see?

1:05:09

I don't know.

1:05:09

I mean I can see that's red, but you always makes

1:05:11

fun of me. I can't see like the subtleties of certain

1:05:14

colors.

1:05:16

I mean, this will never end. This test that Paul

1:05:18

gave me to eliminade me for my podcast.

1:05:22

Wait, what what was your question?

1:05:24

You have fifty year old you nearly

1:05:27

fifty year old?

1:05:28

Wanted to say, can you can you take a note from

1:05:30

a twenty year old, like if I came in here?

1:05:32

Of course there, I said, of course,

1:05:34

all right, good, No, you guys are right,

1:05:37

but everybody with you.

1:05:39

We're in a business that young

1:05:41

people are. God, that's what I of

1:05:43

course we're going to listen. Then we need those paychecks

1:05:45

to keep rolling in.

1:05:46

We want to be in bottoms too.

1:05:48

Listen, answer.

1:05:54

Gaol, I love.

1:05:55

You guys, you're the best.

1:05:57

She's wrapping it up you.

1:05:59

Literally, she's saying up on us, don't

1:06:02

you dare?

1:06:04

Paul almost hung up on you. He's taking

1:06:06

over from every angle. Okay,

1:06:09

tell me he's gonna be Look, I'm going to go out

1:06:11

of here, and his car is going to be somehow in my

1:06:13

garage and I'm going to be on the street. Okay,

1:06:16

wait, were you winding up with a question.

1:06:19

No, I just wanted

1:06:21

to say thank you. You know, you

1:06:24

literally saved my life. I

1:06:26

said, host partum depression

1:06:28

three times. Listen, both of

1:06:30

you listen to your podcasts,

1:06:33

like, honestly, was so so

1:06:36

so important for me.

1:06:37

Thank you, well, thank you, I mean, listen on

1:06:40

a serious note. I then

1:06:43

I wanted to say something funny. I was

1:06:45

like, do I have a fart sound effect? No, but on a serious

1:06:48

note, I do

1:06:51

literally as a highly

1:06:53

sensitive person. That's what I

1:06:55

think is so amazing about comedy is

1:06:58

that it helps people. It

1:07:00

helps people get through things. And I'm not trying to be self

1:07:03

aggrandizing. It helps me when I'm

1:07:05

watching funny things.

1:07:06

I agree with you. I think that's exactly

1:07:08

what it does. And so anyway, so

1:07:11

thank you, and I'm so happy I got the jack. Wait

1:07:15

before, and I can't believe you're.

1:07:16

Not friends with Can you imagine?

1:07:19

Like I'm like, oh, pick a ball. I'm into pickle

1:07:21

ball, I'm into escape rooms. June's not, though,

1:07:23

But I I think they should embrace

1:07:26

me as a friend. Okay, oh wait, I need

1:07:28

you to Okay,

1:07:30

wait, but but please before you go diagnosis,

1:07:33

do we have anything aside from narcissism?

1:07:36

That's a given in this business,

1:07:38

in this town. That's a given. But is there anything

1:07:41

else you don't? Do you think I could

1:07:43

be autistic? Paul

1:07:50

thinks, So, Paul thinks, I am absolutely.

1:07:52

Not, absolutely not. What

1:07:58

I think is like, you guys have personalities.

1:08:01

I mean that a lot of I don't

1:08:03

know. There is sort of like a generalization

1:08:07

of personality, sort of in the age

1:08:10

of the Internet, of monoculture

1:08:12

all that stuff, like Wow, I really appreciate

1:08:15

having a bold stance, a

1:08:17

bold take, a real personality, like

1:08:20

something that makes you unique.

1:08:22

I like it.

1:08:23

Gina Policey Netflix is now on Sorry,

1:08:27

Brooklyn nine Eyes now on Netflix and you

1:08:29

can see Gina play

1:08:31

a police person. I'm not on

1:08:34

the.

1:08:34

Show, but I am policy

1:08:37

because I work in the precinct. Okay,

1:08:39

bye, but listen much love to call back

1:08:41

anytime if you change your mind and you.

1:08:43

Do things, diagnose us.

1:08:45

Yeah, if you think I'm diagnosable at any

1:08:47

time, call I need some help. I need like solutions.

1:08:50

I will okay, by I love you guys. Yeah,

1:08:53

okay, this has been long. You're

1:08:55

the final caller. Can you give meaning

1:08:57

to this podcast?

1:09:00

Yes, I'll try. Hi, Chelsea,

1:09:03

there, I'm here.

1:09:05

How are you?

1:09:05

Hi?

1:09:05

Paul Hill and

1:09:08

I see from your name on the screen your name is Wireless.

1:09:11

It's an interesting name, Wireless collar.

1:09:14

I have bad news. My

1:09:16

color vision score is

1:09:18

sixty five out of one hundred, and

1:09:21

it says color is not your

1:09:23

area of expert and

1:09:27

then it goes in smaller fun Maybe you're

1:09:29

more sensitive to sound like is

1:09:31

that like a consolation?

1:09:34

So this whole just so you know, this whole

1:09:37

episode A Chelsea believed that she was

1:09:39

sensitive to color. We just didn't.

1:09:41

I didn't. First of all, I did said that

1:09:44

fucking fifty year old implied

1:09:46

I might have color sensitivity because I was

1:09:49

questioning if I'm a highly sensitive and.

1:09:51

Then you literally said that.

1:09:53

God Paul

1:09:56

brought like he's moving incited.

1:09:59

It's this is great, all right, so

1:10:02

what are you calling about? Yeah?

1:10:03

And how do you make this podcast mean something?

1:10:06

On account? Actually, after the drum roll, imbue

1:10:09

this moment, this call and this podcast.

1:10:12

You're going to be the Jerry Springer. You're going to give the final

1:10:14

moment. You're going to give the reflection having

1:10:17

not heard the podcast, of what this

1:10:19

podcast means.

1:10:21

Okay, all right, after the drum

1:10:24

roll, I

1:10:32

have an incredible story about poop, really

1:10:35

good coscepts.

1:10:39

Okay, that

1:10:53

was your cue, That was your queue. You missed

1:10:56

your queue, Oh

1:10:58

episode, sorry, give

1:11:01

you one more time.

1:11:03

Okay.

1:11:04

At the end of the drum roll, announce something, Chelsea.

1:11:15

I love you.

1:11:21

Well, that's as good a way to end as any

1:11:24

you know what. Love makes the world

1:11:26

go round.

1:11:27

Amen, from a highly sensitive person,

1:11:30

that is the truth statement. You could possibly all.

1:11:32

We want is love, as me and Paul are both

1:11:34

highly sensitive people. You know, I don't

1:11:36

know if you are. You didn't share your diagnosis with me,

1:11:38

but I wanted off the air. I'll tell you so

1:11:42

anyhow. Joel Sullivan.

1:11:46

J.

1:11:46

Sullo, you're

1:11:49

a j old soul. All right, listen,

1:11:51

this has to end.

1:11:53

Whoa not

1:12:00

like a real doctor?

1:12:01

Hold on, say it again, Say it again. Say

1:12:03

actually, I'm I'm a doctor.

1:12:05

Actually I'm a doctor.

1:12:08

You don't belong he.

1:12:15

Actually, you kind of do belong here because

1:12:18

we are trying to get people to diagnose us with

1:12:20

personality disorders.

1:12:22

What kind of doctor are you?

1:12:24

Yeah? What are you?

1:12:25

Well, yeah, I'm not a real doctor. I'm just a veterinarian.

1:12:29

Oh but if but if that that'll

1:12:31

do? As

1:12:34

a as a convict ever knocked on your door two

1:12:36

in the morning and be like I've been shot and you have to

1:12:39

like take out their bullet and give him dog dog

1:12:41

pills to get through it, like

1:12:43

on bosh.

1:12:45

You know it hasn't happened yet. But I do live in like

1:12:47

the inner city, So.

1:12:53

What a crazy place to bathy

1:12:56

a city, not the oudor

1:12:58

city.

1:13:04

Bottles crashing around in the

1:13:06

city, out

1:13:09

of my way, come over to the

1:13:11

vet.

1:13:12

Hey,

1:13:15

what where you're going your big goat

1:13:17

the city?

1:13:19

The inner city?

1:13:23

Well here.

1:13:23

So the thing is I am.

1:13:25

I'm a mobile veterinarian, so I keep on

1:13:27

my side and

1:13:32

so I have to be very careful of who

1:13:34

I tell that I have things like ketamine

1:13:36

and opioids just in a safe in my

1:13:38

closet. But I guess you and all your

1:13:40

podcast stands will know that now too.

1:13:43

Yummy. I

1:13:46

had to take fentanyl when I was in my

1:13:49

childbirthing situation, and let

1:13:51

me tell you.

1:13:52

I was like, I don't drink or do drugs.

1:13:54

I don't want it, and they're like, I think you should take it.

1:13:56

And then I took it. It was like, oh.

1:14:05

Wow, that's a good voice.

1:14:08

It was so incredible.

1:14:10

I truly understand the allure

1:14:13

having I don't.

1:14:14

Know if if I've had sent noel, but I had

1:14:16

to take it. Don't do it though after surgery, and I

1:14:19

was like, I was the same way. I was like, yeah, I get

1:14:21

it.

1:14:21

Yeah, so don't I messed

1:14:23

up my back on set? Uh or

1:14:26

I messed up my back at home just picking up something

1:14:28

from the floor. I could barely walk. And when

1:14:30

I got to set, every single person on set

1:14:33

gave me a pill of something and it was and

1:14:35

it was too overwhelming. I was like, I can't

1:14:37

and I won't do any of these things. A

1:14:40

lot of oxy, a lot of different stuff in that and

1:14:42

uh. And I decided to have a pot

1:14:44

chocolate instead, but

1:14:47

I misread it and I had too

1:14:49

much of it, and I was so high

1:14:52

that I needed to cross the street

1:14:55

and I saw where I should cross, and

1:14:57

I was like, oh, I missed it. And I just walked aroun

1:15:00

the whole block again because it was almost like an

1:15:02

exit rate because I couldn't

1:15:04

even know. I was like, I got it, gotta get on going.

1:15:07

Sounds amazing. I miss it.

1:15:09

Well, I thought, are you guys still talking

1:15:11

about work.

1:15:12

Secrets about drugs

1:15:15

now? Honey? Well?

1:15:18

Well, I was going to say, not to bring down the mood,

1:15:21

but I I practice exclusively

1:15:23

end of life care, so I don't.

1:15:25

I was going to say, I don't know if this see

1:15:28

I have any secrets that would be fun for the show.

1:15:30

I actually I just put my dog down

1:15:32

a handful of months ago.

1:15:34

Oh I'm sorry, thank

1:15:42

you, thank you for supporting the euthanasia.

1:15:45

And I have to say it was a very very

1:15:48

peaceful experience. But but I was

1:15:50

I think that it's such a tricky moment

1:15:52

because you have to be so in

1:15:55

with the family in that moment.

1:15:58

It's like you're in the middle of this, like it's

1:16:00

a you got like you you

1:16:02

seem like you have a good personality for that.

1:16:05

Oh well, thank you. Yeah, but I agree. It's

1:16:07

like not to not to downplay an

1:16:09

actual therapist job, but like I feel like I'm

1:16:11

as much a therapist as i am a vet because I'm

1:16:14

in this moment with in like very vulnerable

1:16:16

states of the people and them having

1:16:18

to guide them through that process

1:16:21

and everything. So yeah, it's very intimate and very

1:16:24

very heavy.

1:16:25

Do you want to know something crazy,

1:16:28

like speaking of being a highly sensitive person. So

1:16:30

one time when I was I used to open

1:16:32

for disease and one time we went to a veterans

1:16:35

hospital, Like it was like, yeah,

1:16:37

you know, I guess the idea was to spread cheer, but

1:16:43

I am not made for that. I

1:16:45

am this is where I'm like, I am too sensitive.

1:16:48

To do ass and a vets hospital, so

1:16:50

this.

1:16:50

Is what's crazy, like a like

1:16:53

a veteran, not a dog.

1:16:55

No, I

1:16:59

mean like I I guess like I'm picturing you like

1:17:01

talking to like all retirees, or

1:17:03

are you telling the people who were like more.

1:17:06

Young if we were at a veterinarians

1:17:08

and we're just like waving to talk.

1:17:12

Hey, let me tell you something about cats.

1:17:14

No, you're like when you're on set. Here, here's

1:17:16

a treat for you when you're on set. There's

1:17:20

nothing like that feeling. No,

1:17:22

but it crandy, like

1:17:25

seriously like the experience, the first of

1:17:27

all, the very idea that a celebrity

1:17:30

could walk through the halls

1:17:32

of a like I mean, people were severely

1:17:35

wounded, like severely. I

1:17:38

immediately

1:17:40

start crying. I can't even just

1:17:43

be in spaces where I'm

1:17:45

like, I remember my I had someone in

1:17:47

my family and children's hospital at

1:17:50

one point, and I mean I was looking at

1:17:52

the children and the families and these I was crying.

1:17:55

I'm like, I don't know, I can't. I'm

1:17:58

not someone to spread cheer and yeah, I

1:18:01

understand that I literally

1:18:03

can't. Don't have the disposition.

1:18:05

Now, I'm not going to say there weren't times where I was crying

1:18:07

about something and then got on stage and did stand

1:18:10

up right after, Like.

1:18:10

I really I can pull it together Perry

1:18:13

in that documentary exactly like that up.

1:18:16

Like yeah, outside the slipper room and like

1:18:18

Seth Herzog show in like in

1:18:21

New York. But like I don't

1:18:23

have that sunshiny like

1:18:25

I feel like Natasha La Gerald has that she

1:18:27

could put on that old timey show

1:18:30

busy, like like a lot of people have

1:18:32

that in this business. I just don't have it. I

1:18:35

have recently, I like cried in two interviews

1:18:37

lately, like I'm just like

1:18:39

I I don't know.

1:18:41

Well, because it's like you have to like learn to shut

1:18:43

off a certain part of yourself. I think

1:18:45

yeah, And like yeah,

1:18:48

because you're also saying like when.

1:18:52

As a veterinarian, well you do you probably

1:18:54

do. You're like, oh, hi, sparky, and you're

1:18:56

like knowing you're gonna have to put that dog down.

1:18:58

Well, but also like if you if you carried that wait

1:19:00

every day, you would be totally in mourning

1:19:02

all the time. You can't, you know, you gotta be like you

1:19:05

know, the funniest guy was when we had

1:19:07

to get the dog out of the house or we had a big dog and

1:19:10

like they bring in a little stretcher to get the dog

1:19:12

out, and that a gurney And that was

1:19:15

the funniest part was just like navigating,

1:19:17

like because the gurney

1:19:19

is also not like stay of the art. The gurney's like old as

1:19:22

hell, Like it's like you know, it's.

1:19:24

Like and it's like got little

1:19:26

cartoon bones all over it, like trying

1:19:28

to keep you know, Like that's the saddest

1:19:30

thing about hospitals is that it it

1:19:33

is that they always try to have like upbeat

1:19:35

materials like fabrics, I

1:19:37

know, and nothing sadder.

1:19:39

What's your what's the what? What do you say to people

1:19:41

who who are grieving?

1:19:44

Yeah, their dog's gonna die.

1:19:46

Yeah, Well, I I say a lot of things. I

1:19:49

always encourage people to do it on the earlier

1:19:51

side versus the later side. So like some of the quotes

1:19:53

I always say is like it's so much better

1:19:55

to say goodbye a week too early than a day too

1:19:57

late.

1:19:58

What does that mean? I'd be like, no, it's a no. I'd

1:20:00

be like, I'm sorry, is this a limerick? Can

1:20:02

you fucking speak to me straight?

1:20:04

I actually found that to be actually the best

1:20:06

advice that we got because our dog was sick,

1:20:09

and it was like, we could put him down or

1:20:11

he can continue to wait, and it would

1:20:13

just get worse and worse.

1:20:14

You know what's weird about these vets though they they're

1:20:16

pretty they're chomping at the bit to put

1:20:18

these dogs down. They're

1:20:21

always like, you know what he's suffering,

1:20:23

let's get They're like, can I

1:20:25

pump them.

1:20:26

Full of Well, let me tell you what happened. We did

1:20:28

a big operation on my dog and

1:20:31

it was expensive. It was like a car and

1:20:35

and we they

1:20:37

say, hey, we open them up. Uh,

1:20:40

he had assists on the outside of his stomach. It

1:20:42

exploded and it went inside his Like

1:20:45

there's a lot of a lot, a

1:20:48

lot of crazy stuff. And they're like, it's

1:20:50

pretty bad. We can get rid of all this stuff.

1:20:53

We're gonna have to take a little bit of the stomach. I was like, and

1:20:55

so, you know, we're talking

1:20:58

about it. And we talked to our vet and our vets like, you know, look, you've

1:21:00

done a lot of good things for the dog. I think it's okay if you if

1:21:02

you put them down.

1:21:03

Of course it's okay to like

1:21:05

us.

1:21:06

I don't know, right, and so and so we said

1:21:09

to the the operating physician, we're

1:21:11

gonna put him down and she's like wait what

1:21:14

and we're like, uh wait wait, You're

1:21:17

like no, no, you could, you could keep up.

1:21:19

And then we were like bullied into keeping

1:21:21

them alive. And honestly, I could go back

1:21:23

to that surgery and going like I wish we would

1:21:25

have just called it then because it was such

1:21:28

a downhill thing

1:21:30

for the next six months and it was. But

1:21:33

like they talked, they walked us back, that surgeon

1:21:35

walked us.

1:21:35

God, it is such a hard choice. I

1:21:38

mean, that's the one time I remember seeing my dad

1:21:40

cry. Where was when our cat was put

1:21:42

down one of the one

1:21:44

of.

1:21:44

The few people you know, you have to decide

1:21:46

are you keeping them alive for you or keeping them alive

1:21:49

for them?

1:21:50

It's like, uh me, uh, I

1:21:53

didn't get the one side of relationship

1:21:55

here.

1:21:56

Yeah, that's so sad.

1:21:59

I mean, yeah, that's really

1:22:01

sad. I'm sorry.

1:22:02

The other thing I'll quickly say, I always tell people that the

1:22:05

last day doesn't have to be the worst day. You

1:22:07

don't have to wait until your dog is absolutely

1:22:09

mes your boys.

1:22:10

Up right now.

1:22:14

The last call does have to be the worst call,

1:22:16

though, click But seriously,

1:22:20

by wait

1:22:24

there was something, Oh

1:22:26

I can't remember, but anyway, I yeah, I'm sorry

1:22:28

about your dog. It is the worst feeling in

1:22:31

the world. And oh,

1:22:34

I was going to say, you know, all the laugh

1:22:37

sound effects aside, I'm sorry your dog.

1:22:41

Is it fine? You know, look, it was it's time.

1:22:43

It was time. Yeah, lovely dogs,

1:22:46

it was time.

1:22:46

It wasn't his time, and then it was time.

1:22:48

Then it was time again, and then we got him out of there.

1:22:50

And that it's crazy that you're just literally

1:22:52

playing god with these dogs.

1:22:54

I know, well I think that's the other part that was really kind

1:22:56

of unnerving. T KISR. Just

1:22:59

like there was a moment where like, did I make

1:23:01

the right to choice? It wasn't like am I doing

1:23:03

this because it's.

1:23:04

Easy or you know, it's like, but these

1:23:06

doctors should just pull the trigger when

1:23:08

yeah, you know, they shouldn't put.

1:23:11

It in yours put them in a dog escape room,

1:23:13

and they are like, like you know, or

1:23:15

like they should make the choice and come out and back. He

1:23:17

didn't make it, like just I don't. I don't need to

1:23:19

see.

1:23:19

That's horrible. Actually that that's like sacrilege

1:23:22

to even say. I am scared to

1:23:24

say things like that.

1:23:25

Really sometimes well if the dog was really

1:23:27

sick and then you just took the decision out of it.

1:23:29

Before we get out of here.

1:23:30

Do you believe in aliens?

1:23:32

Jason Bolner seems to, Yeah, what

1:23:35

do you do?

1:23:35

Look, I feel like every now and then you keep

1:23:37

on here, like I think it's like they're

1:23:40

putting it in the in the ether.

1:23:41

Look, they're feeding a little more, a little oh.

1:23:44

Oh yeah, there's a hearing. Oh and then all

1:23:46

of a sudden there's like some Delta pilot last week is

1:23:48

like, oh, I saw like we're hearing. We're getting

1:23:50

used to it.

1:23:51

We're getting used to it at all, right,

1:23:53

I don't know, getting acclimated.

1:23:55

Look, I'm gonna believe in them because if when they come down

1:23:57

here, I want to be on their side.

1:23:59

But like that's what people say about AI too.

1:24:01

It's like, don't talk me into Siri. It's

1:24:04

like this is getting to be a lot of koogy stuff

1:24:06

we're headed toward.

1:24:07

I guess yeah. I mean it's I feel

1:24:09

like we're always afraid of something. We are afraid

1:24:11

of cell phones and video games.

1:24:13

Well, HSPs are and

1:24:15

it's a survival mechanism.

1:24:17

Paul.

1:24:18

This has been an absolute pleasure.

1:24:20

Such a blast.

1:24:21

Also just truly high

1:24:24

volume verbiage. I mean, we are two

1:24:26

motor mouths.

1:24:27

We got it going on.

1:24:30

We barely even scratch the surface of our lists.

1:24:33

I mean we barely about I don't

1:24:35

think anyone.

1:24:36

I mean, yeah, h god,

1:24:39

we didn't even get into New Year's Resolutions.

1:24:42

We set it up, you pay it off. I

1:24:45

think that the can you can

1:24:48

you hang this sign and then at the end of every

1:24:50

episode, just.

1:24:54

That is a good idea. Damn, we didn't even get to these

1:24:57

actually love these topics. Friend,

1:24:59

favor, nachos, New

1:25:01

Year's Resolutions?

1:25:03

What's an appetizer?

1:25:07

What is an appetizer? I'll never know?

1:25:10

All right, well, maybe I'll come back.

1:25:12

And well this is a blast. Who

1:25:15

was supposed to be here? Who am I taking over for?

1:25:17

I told you no one.

1:25:18

Oh I know.

1:25:19

I like, I literally told Paul when

1:25:21

I asked him yesterday to do this, no

1:25:24

one has canceled. I'm just disorganized.

1:25:26

Oh I thought that's something they had canceled.

1:25:28

No, no, no, I genuinely meant that, Like,

1:25:30

I feel like my mind would be like, who

1:25:32

canceled that? You're asking me last minute? But I'm just.

1:25:34

Disorder Like I like it last minute.

1:25:37

It was great, me too.

1:25:38

I kind of prefer all

1:25:40

right, well, listen, Paul Sheer, you

1:25:43

have something to promote.

1:25:44

Yeah, you can buy my book. You can buy my book.

1:25:46

Oh yeah, your book.

1:25:47

You can buy my book Joyful Recollections of Trauma, which

1:25:49

is available for pre order now. And apparently

1:25:51

that's the most important thing is selling these books

1:25:53

before the book comes out.

1:25:55

Where do they get it?

1:25:56

Anywhere? Wherever books are sold.

1:26:02

You gotta get that buck.

1:26:03

And and you want to talk about

1:26:06

an OCD thing or or maybe

1:26:08

a highly sensitive person thing. I've felt very

1:26:11

and not badly. I'm like, I really love my book. I'm

1:26:13

excited that it's gonna be out in the world and you can see

1:26:15

my diagnosis in the book. But

1:26:18

if you buy my book, you can go to my website

1:26:20

and then sign up and I'll write you a personal postcard

1:26:23

me anyone who signed up.

1:26:26

Okay, that's cool. So you're gonna get a postcard.

1:26:28

Yeah, for the first three thousand and.

1:26:30

Wow, it's all three thousand postcards,

1:26:33

five hundred so far. That's insane.

1:26:35

It's a lot.

1:26:35

That's too much.

1:26:36

It's too much.

1:26:37

You better get to be a best seller from that.

1:26:39

I hope oh my god, and

1:26:41

then what will happen?

1:26:42

By the way, I've been at one point nine million

1:26:44

followers on Instagram for eighty five years.

1:26:47

Could someone else? Is it just one more

1:26:49

person? I don't understand math. Do I need

1:26:51

just one more follower and I'll be at a two million?

1:26:54

Get up there.

1:26:54

It's annoying.

1:26:55

One point nine that's giant, but

1:26:58

I need.

1:26:58

It to just be two and then keep going

1:27:00

from there. That been static? All

1:27:02

right? All right, okay, so

1:27:08

Paul is hopping into what are you driving these

1:27:10

days in your fantasy.

1:27:11

Chrysler PACIFICA Oh wait, oh my

1:27:15

fantasy? Yeah kind

1:27:17

of Pacific.

1:27:18

Okay, here he goes. He's heading the fine

1:27:24

I'm driving one of those Hollywood celebrity

1:27:26

tour buses in a disguise,

1:27:29

and I'm heading out to Beverly

1:27:32

Hills. I

1:27:37

am not convinced.

1:27:38

I heart was right about hanging up on people

1:27:41

faster.

1:27:41

I feel undecided, But I am a

1:27:44

lonely robot with no friends.