January is a month of change and new beginnings and our guest for this episode speaks about his experience of both, in terms of his career, the relationship between the arts and sciences and the state of US science. 

Microbiologist Mike Ibba joins us to discuss Chapman University's decision to move its philosophy department into the Schmid College of Science and Technology and why he wants training the next generation of scientists to be his lasting legacy. Ibba has been the dean of the college since 2020 after spending nearly 20 years at The Ohio State university. He also shares his experience of making the transition from a large, publicly-funded R1 institution to a small, private R2 institution. 

Thanks to Chapman University for sponsoring this episode.