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Jessie Stevens. Fine. Jessie,

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you have a lazy girl. Story. I

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do. Look, I have a few as

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always. I have one from our friend

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who said that she's been too lazy

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to think of like how to write this,

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but she says that she's fallen

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asleep in a DJ booth in the middle

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of a wedding and on a bridge. And

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I don't know if she was walking or driving

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on the bridge or

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just walking across the bridge.

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I think there's a point where I'd go, I'll

1:01

just pull up for just a brief nap. Yeah.

1:03

For just a brief rest. Yeah. She also said

1:05

in a separate message when she kind of mustered the

1:07

energy to continue her story. She said I vacuum

1:09

my kitchen. Okay? And

1:12

then we had another woman who said,

1:14

love the podcast, lazy girl story.

1:17

And then she said, sorry, it's taking me so long.

1:19

Contact you, Doug, thought, you know. And

1:21

then she says to me a common thing. I

1:23

was putting my hair up for work running

1:25

late. I realized I'd left a piece of hair out of her

1:27

ponytail that she'd put up.

1:28

And then and then What did she do?

1:31

Did she cut the excess? She

1:34

saw his is, and she was like, gosh.

1:38

I could really do the ponytail or

1:40

I could everyday just cut off the face.

1:42

It doesn't fit. That's what she did.

1:45

And of course, our favorite of the week

1:47

which was on one of our posts on Instagram.

1:49

Someone wrote, I just wanna say thanks for normalizing

1:52

laziness. There has always been such

1:54

a negative stigma attached to it, and it feels

1:56

good to be seen. In nineteen

1:58

twenty three, a study of laziness was,

2:01

and then she left her for

2:03

a bit. And then she followed up and said,

2:05

no. Sorry too late for the future.

2:08

I love her. I actually think

2:10

that that's incredibly true that we've

2:12

normalized so many things -- Yeah.

2:14

these days. Now we need to normalize laziness.

2:17

Yeah. Because what we've done is we're really glorified

2:19

hustle culture. I'm not here for it.

2:21

No. Because I'm too tired. Yeah. I tried to

2:23

make lazy girl sort of a thing on

2:25

TikTok the other night, and I was like, hashtag

2:28

lazy girl, like, kind of lazy girl

2:30

talk. I even like full do day. I didn't know. I didn't

2:32

know. I didn't know. Lazy girl talk. I feel fucking

2:34

kicked off. Just some

2:36

time. She looks at it and she thinks,

2:38

oh, make one of those ones. No. It never does.

2:40

So that's why it hasn't really gone off.

2:42

But lazy girls can like it.

2:44

I was gonna say, lazy girls are spending a lot

2:46

of time possibly -- Yes. -- on picked

2:49

Exactly. But

2:50

Jesse, on today's f side. We're

2:52

talking about Selena Gomez. And I gotta

2:54

keep an eye off with Selena. We can't call

2:56

her Lazy Girl. I think if she's a singer

2:58

actor. For Lisa, she's actually not a Lazy

3:00

Girl. And she's never been a lazy girl.

3:03

She hasn't been lazy. She was a kid

3:05

and she was worse. Yeah. She was. She

3:07

is fighting with friend of the camp council

3:10

courtroom, Hailey Bieber -- Mhmm. -- and another

3:12

friend of the Council courtroom, Kylie Jenner.

3:14

In a feud, we think started because she

3:16

used to be in a relationship with another

3:18

friend of the cancel courtroom, the man

3:20

who thought Anne Frank would have been for Villeva

3:23

and the father of mourning. Justin

3:25

Vida. Alright. So what we've got is a bit of a

3:27

web. And sometimes you'll

3:29

know this. Sometimes you go

3:32

to court and you see that what's happening append is

3:35

that someone's just been spending a lot of time with criminals,

3:38

or they're wrapped up in the drama

3:40

with other criminals who wanted that with oprah? Yeah.

3:42

So the police just go, not sure

3:44

what you've done. Feel like you should

3:46

go to court. Yeah. Why have you been so associated

3:49

with criminals? Like, Tabuchar. That's

3:52

the case with Selena. Selena

3:55

Marie Gomez is an American singer

3:57

actress producer and businesswoman. Apparently

4:00

rare beauty is quite good. And when I realized that

4:02

was her, it's like, oh, that's like

4:04

legit. It's not like Hailey Bieber's.

4:07

What's her thing called load

4:09

skin care. Right. Yeah. But no

4:11

rare beauty is always sold out at Sephora.

4:13

Probably it's amazing. Can't get my hands on

4:15

it. Yep. Jesse, did you know

4:17

that as a child Selena was on Bonnie

4:19

and friends.

4:20

I love you. Yes.

4:23

I did because I watched the first

4:25

half of my documentary. Oh, right.

4:28

Yeah. I haven't seen it. Well, as an adult,

4:30

I feel weird about Barney. Why?

4:32

I don't know. He's Just why does he enjoy

4:34

hanging out with children so much? And he's got this

4:36

weird little laugh that he does at the end of every

4:39

song. Did we watch fun? Did

4:41

you know that laughing is good for

4:43

you? Just like eating healthy

4:45

food and exercising.

4:47

Yes. Yes. I don't know.

4:49

I was never really that into it. There were a lot of kids'

4:51

shows that I never really got that into. Was like, I

4:53

don't know where this is on, mom. I think we're

4:56

a bit cynical as kids. Yeah. It's a purple

4:58

dinosaur. It's not real. Yeah. We're much preferred

5:00

from bananas and pajamas. Johnson

5:03

and friends. Anyway So she was on Bonnie.

5:05

She was on Bonnie. Then she gets Eric

5:07

Herring role on Hanamonta. Yeah. But she

5:09

became famous starring as Alex Russo

5:11

on Disney's wizards of

5:13

Waverly

5:14

Place. And it's important to note that for

5:16

a generation just below us,

5:18

very famous.

5:19

You know everything's gonna be a breeze. And

5:21

we're a little old facility. We're a little old

5:24

facility. We were born in nineteen

5:26

ninety. If you're born in about ninety five.

5:29

Ira boomers was a gal. Yes.

5:31

Maybe Hillary Duff was more out. She's

5:33

a little bit older. But for a long

5:35

time, I was like, who is this girl? Where did

5:37

she come from? She also

5:39

appeared in movies like another

5:41

Cinderella story, Spring Breakers, and

5:44

one of my favorite movies of

5:46

all time. And when I say this, people think I'm

5:48

joking, but I'm not. Bad neighbors

5:50

too, sorority. Yeah. That was actually a

5:52

great film.

5:53

Welcome to Fi Lambda. Hi.

5:58

What are you doing? We don't hit joints in here.

6:00

Your parties must suck. No. We don't throw

6:02

parties here. In the United States, rioritize

6:04

are not allowed to third parties on their own houses.

6:07

Only friends, Tim. This is a sexist and

6:09

a strictest

6:10

systematic. We're bizarre subordinate to the party

6:12

the way that we want what's the name of our story?

6:14

Caba. Yeah. That was actually

6:17

a great film. I'm not joking. I'm

6:19

not joking in incredible film, Incredible

6:21

cast, Roseburn, Zach Fauci, and watching.

6:23

Uh-huh. Is that genuinely funny, uh-huh.

6:26

Jesse, she executive produced

6:28

thirteen reasons why. And that

6:30

in itself, we don't even need to take any further. That's

6:33

a crime because I think that might be one of the worst

6:35

shows ever created by humanity. Okay.

6:38

If you killed yourself, but what if you continue to

6:40

troll everyone. Be on the grave.

6:42

What if? Selena terrible. It was originally meant

6:44

to be a film starring, none other than

6:46

Selena Gomez. Really? Then it became

6:48

the table. Did I make a second, Siri? Jesse,

6:51

there are four. Really? By the

6:53

fourth, people got very upset. Yeah.

6:55

We're milking. She now

6:58

executive producers and stars and Hulu's

7:00

only murders in the building, oh, which is actually

7:02

meant to be really

7:03

good. Apparently, it's amazing. She's been nominated for like

7:05

Emmys and stuff. Well do you know your neighbors?

7:09

You see many of them every day, but

7:11

have you ever wondered? What

7:13

goes on behind their door? I can't push

7:16

you just hit them with the charm. Good. Excellent.

7:18

So I'll take the lead on this. Excuse

7:20

me. Well, I can turn on the charm. Is

7:22

it on now?

7:25

It's warming up. In terms of her music career,

7:27

she originally released three albums with

7:29

her band, Selena Gomez, I'm the scene.

7:35

Never heard of it. Then she went

7:37

solo with singles like come and

7:39

get it. Yep. And also

7:41

-- Good for you. -- good

7:43

for And also, hands to myself.

7:46

Can't keep my can't keep my hands to myself

7:49

and lose you to love me. That's

7:52

a huge song that's meant to be about Justin

7:54

Bieber. Cut doesn't come to

7:56

mind. Okay. I should've

7:58

viewed it. I feel as though if I

8:00

started singing it might come out. Yeah.

8:03

But interesting. She is the most followed

8:05

woman on Instagram as a step of

8:07

her and bloody cristiano

8:09

Ronaldo, whatever his name is, because

8:12

you must be big in. Same.

8:14

Yes. Really big population

8:17

there. Now, you might be thinking, guys,

8:19

I'm sure I've heard you talk about Selena

8:21

before uncanceled. You're sure you went to a

8:23

state where we accidentally brought her up every episode

8:25

when she wasn't related, and we kept saying we

8:27

should do a whole episode on her and now we are.

8:30

Claire, why did we keep bringing Celine

8:32

goes up. Because a listener reached

8:34

out to us to

8:35

say, look, I'm not a reporter.

8:38

But it would have been a child. Sorry.

8:41

I'm looking around the room for a reporter. Continue.

8:44

I mean, it's not about being a reporter. It's

8:46

about having opinions. But it would appear that Selena

8:48

Gomez's best friend donated her

8:51

kidney to her, and then Selena wasn't

8:53

nice to the kidney, and it's no longer

8:55

close with the friend. We hadn't fact

8:57

checked this. No. But we liked the dear

8:59

of it. A, being a bitch to the person who

9:01

gave it to you and b, treating

9:04

that kidney like she yeah.

9:06

That phrase side us. A lot of moral questions.

9:08

Yeah. And we thought Yeah. -- whose kidney

9:10

is that? It was You

9:12

know what? This isn't a case for a real courtroom.

9:14

Mhmm. Maybe it is. Actually. This

9:17

is an ethical dilemma. This is a case for

9:19

the council call room. My structure for

9:21

today is as follows. Selena,

9:23

a v Hayley, v Kylie, c

9:25

c just to pick up. Yes. Like, I

9:27

understand completely. The

9:30

kidney? Yeah. A rude interview.

9:32

Her feud with Lord, and

9:35

being problematic, mostly according to

9:37

Tumblr, Jesse, Selena,

9:39

Hailey, and Kylie. At some

9:41

point, I've got I've

9:44

wasted half the documentary and I had

9:46

some masks. I've got a place to insert

9:48

your thoughts. I've actually structured because

9:50

you often insert your thoughts Let's

9:55

start at the beginning of the Hailey Bieber,

9:58

Selena Gomez, Kylie Jenner story because

10:00

it is so

10:01

bizarre, and you're gonna think is about

10:03

it. Alright. And the answer

10:06

will be? Yep. Hailey

10:08

Bieber is married to Justin Bieber,

10:11

everyone over. Who Selena dated on

10:13

and off for eight years? Justin

10:16

and Selena took a break in March

10:18

twenty eighteen. By July

10:21

of that year, he had proposed to

10:23

Hayley. No one talks about

10:25

this. It's all anyone

10:27

on the internet talks about. So close.

10:30

So I feel like there's weird vibes there.

10:32

And then Kiley, Jenna,

10:34

and Selena Gomez have been neck and neck for most

10:36

followed woman on Instagram, and

10:38

I feel like there's some tension. Firstly,

10:42

in January, paparazzi photos of Selena

10:44

Gomez in a bikini are published, and

10:46

she is widely body shamed, is horrible.

10:49

Shortly after, Hailey Bieber

10:51

posted TikTok featuring herself,

10:54

Kendall Jenner, and singer Justin

10:56

Sky, lip syncing to the

10:58

words. But

10:59

I'm not saying she deserved it, but

11:01

I'm saying God's timing is always

11:03

right. And it isn't that just trained

11:06

on taking lots of people. Yeah.

11:08

Alright. Now Hailey

11:10

ended up deleting the video, which some

11:12

people thought was evidence that it really

11:14

was aimed at Selena. When

11:17

one person shared Hailey's video

11:19

and said Hailey as a bitch, Selena

11:22

liked that video. And then commented,

11:24

it's okay. I don't let these things get me down.

11:27

Be nice to everyone. Alright. I need

11:29

your take. That

11:31

video was not a dick at Selena.

11:33

Was it? It's hard to see it as a dick

11:35

at Selena. It's a long pretty long

11:38

bow. This is common theme

11:40

that we'll get to later on if this

11:42

is bullying. Yes. It's

11:44

bad bullying. Because the

11:46

vague -- Gotta be quicker and harsh. -- to say

11:48

more explicit. As

11:50

a bystander? Who

11:53

should be willing to jump in? Yeah.

11:55

I'm confused. Bling

11:58

should never, and you can quote us on this. We'll put

12:00

it in the book. Bling should never be confusing.

12:04

Just slightly off here. Yes. Are

12:06

you bullying you or not? And also, what

12:08

are we bullying of? Which is fine.

12:10

It's fine. Well, bully. Yeah.

12:12

But we just need to know what we're doing and --

12:14

Yeah. -- who it's who it's named that one.

12:17

Haley then commented saying it

12:19

was just fun. Final and girl's not, wasn't

12:21

directed at anyone. Okay. But

12:24

put that to the side because that's not even the drama.

12:26

Let's just a little bit of backstory. It's

12:28

February twenty one. And on TikTok

12:30

and Instagram stories, Selena posts

12:32

this video. And it's her.

12:35

think she's got a filter that kind

12:37

of makes her look Bella Hadid

12:39

ish. Mhmm. So my

12:42

name my name is Bella

12:44

Hadid. But Over

12:46

the top of the video, it says, I wish

12:48

I was as pretty as Bella Hitted. Then

12:51

she posts another video showing her

12:53

eyebrows. Where she says, instead,

12:55

this is me, I laminated my eyebrows

12:58

too much. My name is Selena Gomez,

13:00

c. It doesn't even sound sexy. She's

13:02

being self deprecating saying Bella

13:05

Hadid is prettier than me. Is that very

13:07

beautiful? Yep. And I think I did my

13:09

eyebrows. Yeah. It was all baby, man. Kiley

13:12

Jenna shortly after her,

13:14

then post this to

13:17

her stories. Jessie, explain

13:19

what you say. I see Kylie Jenner

13:21

being like, this was an

13:24

accident? Question

13:26

mark. But I don't know what's an accident.

13:28

Maybe her eyebrows, but then she's written it over

13:30

eyebrows. I don't really understand.

13:33

But then, Kylie, it looks like she

13:35

posted a screenshot of her and Hailey Bieber

13:37

on face time with a close-up

13:39

of their eyes and eyebrows. So

13:42

it does sort of look like two high school

13:44

girls. Making

13:46

fun of an eyebrow remark. What

13:48

is that a long shot? No. That's exactly

13:51

what everybody thought.

13:54

But, I mean, they've all had their eyebrows emanated.

13:56

I assume. I assume so. But I guess my

13:58

question is, like, if it's throwing shade,

14:01

Explain it to me. What's

14:04

the shade? You're talking

14:06

about eyebrows? You

14:09

got your eyebrows laminated? The

14:11

following slane of gum is ugly then.

14:13

I like like be more

14:15

explicit. Yeah. Yeah. That's the inside. I don't

14:18

understand. I I would ignore this because I'd

14:20

go if they're trying to bully me, then

14:22

the bank too bad. Yeah. Yeah. And people

14:24

are going to be confused. So

14:26

what happened from there? So then everyone loses

14:28

their shit. Like, literally, there

14:30

are videos with millions and millions

14:33

and millions of views where

14:35

Selena's fans are saying that Kylie and Hayley

14:37

were being bullied and mean girls, and

14:39

they're like, they're wives and mothers. Great

14:42

point. And here's the thing. Kendall

14:45

or Kylie or whatever that is.

14:48

Kylie Kylie Kylie Kylie Kylie was only in baby

14:50

lip think Okay. -- the beavers and

14:52

the janitors. Mhmm. I have no

14:55

doubt they have a group chat on what Oh,

14:57

gosh. Called Selina's being

14:59

annoying on TikTok. Yeah. Where they share

15:01

Selina's TikTok's and they go her eyebrows

15:03

as stupid, have I've laid out. Are

15:06

they stupid enough? To post it

15:08

to their millions and millions of followers.

15:11

Perhaps. I guess my

15:13

question is, I've got two

15:15

things. It's like if it's bullying. Yeah.

15:18

But if it's not bullying also, like,

15:22

Yeah. Weird content. Weird content.

15:25

Because they've come out and been

15:26

like, no. No. No. No. No. It was

15:29

nothing just random. And it's like,

15:31

can you also just explain

15:32

that to me? Why were you on FaceTime

15:35

sharing photos of your audio? Like,

15:37

I'm pretty sure you charge a million dollars for purse.

15:39

Yeah. So we're just throwing out post about eyebrows.

15:42

We're cheapening our own brand. On February twenty

15:44

two, Kylie comments on a video,

15:46

speculating she had thrown

15:48

shade at Selena. Saying, this

15:50

is reaching no shade towards Selena

15:53

ever, and I didn't see her eyebrows. You

15:55

guys are making something out of nothing. This is

15:57

silly. Okay. Selena responds

15:59

a greed Kylie Jenner. It's

16:02

all unnecessary. I'm a fan of Kylie.

16:05

Oh, done. I believe. Ten?

16:08

No. Oh, because the

16:10

thing about Selena is

16:13

that she's like, I hate the drama. I hate the drama.

16:15

Nothing's happening. But she loves And

16:17

then she constantly goes and likes posts

16:19

and leaves comments which fuel the

16:22

drama. Mhmm. Am I complaining? No.

16:24

Thank god. This is the new cycle for like,

16:26

oh, yeah. Yeah. The next day, she

16:28

starts liking a bunch of fans

16:31

TikToks. Including one from a fan

16:33

who criticized Mean Girls and Napo

16:35

babies for attacking Selena. She

16:38

also defended her friend, Taylor Swift,

16:40

In the comments of a TikTok video that showed

16:42

Hailey Bieber pretending to vomit when

16:45

Taylor was mentioned, so it's like they're

16:47

talking about Taylor Swift lyrics

16:50

and the punch lines about Taylor. And

16:52

as her name's mentioned, Hailey's

16:54

like -- Yeah. -- and pretends to vomit. Does

16:56

that mean? Was it in a mean Yeah. Was it in

16:58

a mean way? Yeah. Okay. What I will

17:00

say is that that was probably from, like,

17:02

two thousand seventeen, two thousand eighteen. Right. We're

17:04

digging this. When which your seven,

17:07

which is Hailey Bieber's age. That was

17:10

a long time ago. Yep. Yep. Yep. And so

17:12

it is weird to just drag stuff up and

17:14

be offended But Selena commented

17:16

on that video so sorry

17:18

my best friend is and continues to be

17:20

one of the best in the game. So she's

17:23

defending her friend, Taylor Swift. She

17:26

then says she's taking a break from social media

17:28

because she's thirty and she's

17:30

too old for this. Yeah. Right.

17:32

Shit. She's too old. A

17:34

weak lady comes back. I'm just

17:36

gonna resume. Resume. Sorry.

17:39

Sorry, ma'am. My thing about this is that

17:41

Hailey and Kylie, if they are bullying,

17:45

Very bad at bullying. Yeah. Very,

17:47

very bad. The LA Times described

17:49

the story as comprising a

17:51

vanishingly small amount of drama

17:53

-- Mhmm. -- and that's really accurate.

17:56

Like, an enormous amount of

17:58

content. Minimal drama

18:01

for maximum content, and that

18:03

I appreciate. Like, what actually happened?

18:07

You know? Yeah. Yeah. That

18:11

took me. What I just presented

18:13

to you took me like four hours.

18:16

You can just get a vibe that they're shade.

18:20

That that happened. That's what we're entering

18:22

into the courtroom. Shade. You

18:25

know when sometimes there's drama and you're like,

18:27

I don't want drama and you say that. But

18:29

then you do so you lean back into

18:31

it. Mhmm. And then you just like, start

18:33

a fire and leave again. Mhmm. That's what's happening.

18:35

Yeah. And that's what Selena's doing, and I can relate

18:37

to that. Yeah. You got I'm above this,

18:39

and then you're like, actually, I'm gonna call mom.

18:41

You know? Yeah. Actually, I'm not.

18:44

Yeah. I'm not. Selena

18:46

won, I think, because

18:48

she got heaps of followers. Kiley

18:50

and Selena were neck and neck, like,

18:52

three hundred and eighty mille? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On

18:54

its stuff. And then I

18:57

believe Kylie went down

18:59

buy a cup of meal? Selena went up buy

19:02

a cup of meal. Then people in

19:04

Spain. They know what's up.

19:06

The question also is, Selina,

19:09

one but one what? No

19:11

one no one knows. No. So

19:14

far not canceled. So far

19:16

not canceled.

19:26

Moving on to the kidney. Selena

19:29

met fellow actor, Francia Raiser

19:31

-- Mhmm. -- in two thousand and seven,

19:33

and they instantly became best friends. That's

19:36

a very see a razor is

19:39

currently in how I met your father. This

19:43

is the story. Of

19:45

how I met your father. But she was in

19:47

secret life of an American teenager? That's

19:49

where I know her from. Okay. Who's on I didn't realize

19:52

she an actress. I just thought she was selina's face.

19:55

Alright. No. She's an act door in

19:57

her own right. In two thousand and

19:59

seventeen, three years after being diagnosed

20:01

with autoimmune disease lupus, Francia

20:04

donated her kidney to Selena. Basically,

20:06

lupus was causing Selena's kidneys to

20:09

fail and the demand for kidneys is so

20:11

high it was going to take years.

20:13

So what you can do is

20:15

see if you have a match within

20:17

your personal life. And some people like talk

20:20

to their family and there's no one who's a match.

20:22

But she found a match. And I watched

20:25

video where Francia explains the

20:27

whole process. She says she agreed

20:29

to get tested, but the way she found

20:31

out she was a match was unexpected. It's

20:34

a bit of long story, but Francia let

20:37

Selena's assistant know

20:39

that she was keen to get

20:42

tested. Mhmm. And

20:44

she wanted to, like, surprise

20:46

Selena when I found out I was a

20:48

match. It wasn't the way I expect did.

20:50

One day, I got a phone call from

20:52

Selena, a FaceTime. And

20:55

she's like, for a match. And

20:57

I'm like,

21:01

Yay. What?

21:03

How do you know this? I had a way that

21:05

I wanted to tell

21:06

her. When I made the decision. I knew I was

21:08

gonna happen. I just knew that time. Like, it's it's

21:10

big thing. So she's retelling the story. She

21:12

sounds really sarcastic. Yeah. And she

21:14

said, how do you know this? She

21:17

says, she had this way that

21:19

she wanted to tell Selena, and so when Selena

21:21

told her she was angry. And

21:24

she called her social worker who is working

21:27

with her on the whole

21:27

thing. So I hang up and I call my social

21:30

worker and I'm angry and she

21:32

told me it's gonna be hard.

21:35

The recipient is gonna glow

21:37

and she's gonna recover a lot faster than

21:39

the donors because she's receiving something she

21:41

needs. You're losing something you don't

21:43

need to lose. It's gonna be hard

21:45

and it was very hard.

21:47

Do you get the sense that

21:49

France here didn't know what it meant

21:51

to Dino Kidney. Yes. Like I feel as though,

21:53

alright, my friend needs a kidney, and I feel

21:55

like everyone and as

21:57

a fun thing goes and gets tested. She

22:01

gets real when you test as

22:03

a match. Mhmm. And then it's just

22:05

assumed that you're giving your kidney.

22:08

I feel as though we're missing a step, which

22:10

is fancier deciding to give her the kidney.

22:12

Yes. I think She had

22:14

wanted it to be this big moment -- Mhmm.

22:17

-- where she kind of presented it

22:19

and maybe the fact that that moment was taken away

22:21

made her feel a bit funny. But in this video, you could tell.

22:24

She's very honest about how scary

22:26

it was. Yeah. Francia

22:28

says they make you take a two hour

22:30

course to educate you on what giving up kidney

22:32

means for your life and was just a scary process

22:35

learning everything. In September

22:37

twenty seventeen, so after the surgery,

22:39

Selena shared that

22:41

photo that a lot of people have seen

22:43

of France, yeah, and her -- Yeah. -- hospital. And

22:46

she writes in the caption. Finally,

22:48

there aren't words to describe how I can possibly

22:50

thank my beautiful friend, Francis Eraza.

22:53

She gave me the ultimate gift and sacrifice by

22:55

donating her kidney to me. I'm incredibly

22:57

blessed. I love you so much, Seth. This

22:59

is a rogue question. Drucking

23:02

beget paid? No.

23:05

I don't think so. Okay. It sounded

23:07

like it was a very altruistic. Yep.

23:09

Type five. I think organ harvesting.

23:12

Would that if you're paying for someone's kid? In the North

23:14

America. True. I wouldn't think so

23:16

in Australia, but I just wonder I

23:18

don't know if it feels wrong. In twenty eighteen, you wanna

23:20

get them something? Yeah.

23:23

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to pay to somebody's

23:26

organ. You'd get them something. Gotta be out the kind

23:28

of art. In twenty

23:30

eighteen, a rumor starts that

23:32

Francia and Selena have fallen out because

23:34

of Selena's unhealthy lifestyle and

23:36

excessive drinking that would damage

23:39

the kidney fancier gave her. I

23:41

need to state the

23:43

extent to which there is nothing

23:46

to support this particular claim.

23:48

Right. As he in France has never

23:50

said anything, Selena's never said

23:52

anything, people have said anything,

23:54

include people on social media.

23:56

Quite something back to you. What? Whether

23:59

it's smokeless fire. Alright?

24:01

Where there it's smokeless fire? Hey. What I'm

24:03

saying? Is some smoke. Girl,

24:05

a little bit of smoke. Alright. Well, we don't know where

24:07

it's coming from, but I wonder

24:09

if Celine thinks of

24:12

Transya. Every time that she weighs.

24:14

Yeah. Does she think? Because everything she

24:16

drinks goes through France. Yeah.

24:19

Yeah. And out her, you reiterate. Okay.

24:22

Well, keep that in mind

24:24

that if that smoke, that's fire because we do get -- Okay.

24:27

-- bit of a blow up. But if social

24:29

media is anything to go by,

24:31

they did seem a bit hot and cold for

24:33

a few years. Whereas you think you'd be pretty

24:35

hot. In a

24:37

TikTok video at the end of twenty twenty

24:39

one, Selena did a due

24:42

with a doctor. And so a duet

24:44

is when you've just found a video

24:47

and then you, like, stitch it together and you say

24:49

it. You do it side by side and it's you reacting

24:51

to it. Yeah. So the doctor

24:53

is citing the CDC's definition

24:55

of heavy drinking as fifteen

24:57

or more drinks away for men and eight or more

24:59

drinks per week for women. And in

25:02

the video, Selena is listening to the doctor

25:04

and reacting by biting

25:06

her nail and wincing and being like,

25:09

oh. So she was essentially

25:11

saying, I'm a heavy drinker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

25:13

Yeah. And it's like would you feel weird was your kidney?

25:15

Yes. One special kidney is

25:17

like I don't know. It's like working

25:19

hard. It's like trade my kidney well. Yeah.

25:23

Yeah. One fan wrote, so

25:25

one of your best friends gives you her kidney

25:28

and you continue to drink excessively. Damn

25:30

Selena. And Selena

25:33

responded, it was a joke

25:35

ass. Oh. I don't

25:37

understand the word hasn't

25:40

been like that. Not really. No. Not really.

25:42

But I guess she's saying it was a joke. I

25:44

was just kidding. Okay. I'm not a

25:46

heavy drinker. Basically, the idea

25:48

is that you shouldn't drink a lot after a kidney

25:50

donation because the kidneys of heavy

25:53

drinkers have to work harder and heavy

25:55

drinking on a regular basis has been found

25:57

to double the risk for kidney disease. So

25:59

there is a link between drinking and drinking. You've been

26:01

given a fresh one. You've been given a new one.

26:04

But I guess the moral question is

26:06

if someone gives you that kidney,

26:09

do they get a say of how you treat

26:11

that kidney. Always.

26:13

Slash do I get a say in how you treat

26:15

that other person's kidney? I

26:18

think we get to do a

26:20

naughty thing every now and then we just don't broadcast

26:23

it because people feel possessive

26:26

of their organs in other people. Right.

26:28

But more than that, because you

26:31

now have one kidney. Yeah. And

26:34

it's like, you don't have the

26:36

luxury. Of going hard on

26:38

drinking now. Right? Yeah. Then

26:41

Selena's documentary comes out last

26:43

year. Me, me, you, and me, and my

26:45

mind. Yes. Me,

26:47

you, my mind, and

26:48

me. Yes. No.

26:51

We shouldn't make fun, but every documentary

26:53

is called me, myself, and

26:55

I. And my mind. And

26:58

and me and pieces of

27:02

love. My

27:05

story plays the right. This is a view,

27:07

and my mind didn't make it. Okay.

27:11

Anyway, she makes this documentary. Incredibly

27:13

candid about her mental health struggles. Fransia

27:16

doesn't get a mention. Shucks about lupus.

27:18

Shucks about her conditional on. She mentions that

27:20

she got a transplant. But she doesn't

27:23

say who from. And again,

27:25

there's a lack of

27:28

referencing. Yeah. There is.

27:30

And you would think

27:32

you might mention it in passing, or

27:34

you would think if they were still friends. Francia

27:37

might just in passing be in the documentary. Yeah.

27:40

A lot of her friends feature. Mhmm. Not Francia.

27:42

In the promo for my mind

27:44

and me, Selina didn't interview with Rolling

27:47

Stone, and she said, I never fit

27:49

in with a cool group of girls that were celebrities.

27:51

My only friend in the industry really

27:53

is His

27:56

tailor swept. So I remember like

27:59

of her. So I remember feeling like

28:01

I didn't belong. Now when

28:03

enews shared that quote on Instagram

28:05

on like a tile, Francia commented.

28:08

One word. Interesting. Which?

28:13

Love that choice of words? I wanna comment

28:15

that on ever just anything. Something.

28:17

Someone shares, like, they're engagement. Interesting.

28:21

I would comment. I'm France. Yeah. I say that. I

28:23

comment five words. What? I'll

28:26

have my

28:28

kidney Back. Plus.

28:31

Exact, please. Well, she

28:33

doesn't. She just says interesting. Then

28:35

Selena responds to a TikTok about

28:38

the drama saying, sorry, I didn't

28:40

mention every person I know. That's not

28:42

every person you know. There's one person who's giving you a

28:44

kidney. It's not sorry, I didn't mention every

28:46

person I know. That's not what anyone's asking

28:49

me to do. Francia did

28:51

eventually post a story on Instagram saying

28:53

there's no bad blood between me and

28:56

anyone. And I'm so proud of

28:58

hashtag my mind in me. But

29:00

I don't know. What

29:02

if someone gives you a kidney?

29:05

It's clear, it's awkward, and you don't really pick that

29:07

up till after that maybe they didn't want to, but you've

29:09

got my kidney by then. It's not really not

29:12

to worry. They've given you a kidney, and

29:14

then they're a bit at the beach. Do

29:16

you still have to be nice -- Okay. -- to

29:18

them? Because that seems you've got the

29:21

kidney. We assume that Selena

29:23

has gone I've got your kidney. Thanks

29:25

for that. I mean No. No. No. No. No. But it could be

29:27

that France could be the other person. Yeah.

29:30

Yeah. He was, like, ever since

29:32

I gave you my kidney? Yeah. You're

29:34

being different. Yeah. And she's moved

29:36

on. My vibe

29:38

is if someone gives you that kidney -- Mhmm. --

29:40

go to be friends with him for life. I'm just

29:43

to otherwise give the kidney back.

29:45

I actually don't know a doctor that would give it

29:47

back. Based on angst,

29:49

like it's not even a real fight, It's

29:52

just like we feel weird. Since

29:54

the kidney was done, can you give it back and

29:56

we'll find a number? We're beefing on it there.

29:59

Yeah. Just wanna just do a little bit of

30:01

the back. Or she can have my liver.

30:03

Do not Yeah. Yeah. To a tradie.

30:06

Yep. We have a very recent

30:08

update to this drama. On

30:10

March ten, Selena Gomez

30:12

appeared on Apple TV's documentary series

30:15

Deere dot dot dot Oh.

30:17

Have you heard of her? No. No. No. We'll

30:19

get to that. Okay. And she acknowledged

30:21

the time France Ye gave her

30:23

her kidney. She said my

30:25

best friend, her name is France. Yeah. She's

30:28

still. Still? She said,

30:30

no, I'm absolutely getting tested. Remember

30:33

Selena. She was remembering about how Francie

30:35

got tested -- Okay. -- to see if she was compatible.

30:37

Yep. Yep. And within three days, she went

30:39

to get tested and she was a match and it was one of

30:41

those moments where I felt watched over. I

30:43

know I was so so so lucky.

30:46

I am. He's very gaudy. There's not a problem

30:48

with that. No. So

30:50

is Justin? Yeah. They probably

30:53

bonded over that, but then so is Hayley. Great

30:55

point. I understand that that doesn't

30:58

happen for a lot of people, and I know the outcome

31:00

of some of those situations and how serious

31:02

they are, so I do not take it lightly that it's

31:04

happened to me that way. I will never

31:06

ever ever be

31:09

more in-depth to a person than

31:11

from I've waited to hear those words.

31:14

I've waited so long to hear those

31:16

cancel listeners have waited a long

31:18

time to hear those words out of Selena's mouth.

31:20

Interesting that this is the week we're

31:22

doing. This episode. Yeah. Yeah. And

31:24

this is the week she's chosen

31:27

to put out a statement because she's been listening

31:29

to cancel. She's gone, they're gonna do it. They're

31:31

gonna do it and they're gonna acknowledge that I

31:33

haven't been indebted enough. And

31:35

so the internet is like,

31:37

see, there was no feud. It's

31:39

her best friend, She's grateful for the kidney.

31:42

No. No. No. No. No. The crutches overlooks her.

31:44

That was a failure. That's what I will

31:46

say is there's still such evidence

31:48

as the awkward Instagram comment. Interesting.

31:52

And they just don't generally seem as close.

31:54

Now the comment doesn't make me think any differently.

31:56

And as we have often said, Where

31:59

there is smoke? There is fire? There was stuff going

32:01

on at least. Has France? Yeah. Does she appear

32:03

in the documentary? Or is she not in anything

32:05

back? She does not. Yeah. It's tension. I

32:08

wonder when this Apple TV show was

32:10

filmed. Could I have googled that maybe?

32:13

But I didn't. And

32:15

I reckon it was potentially that

32:17

me, myself, my brain, and myself, and

32:19

I -- Yeah. -- came out. And

32:22

then people say you didn't acknowledge

32:24

enough. So she said, where can I acknowledge? And

32:26

they said, this show. Deere dot

32:28

dot com. Exactly. Has a spot. So

32:31

she's done it. And is that a very cynical way

32:33

of looking at it? Certainly.

32:35

But Westinixi, we

32:37

are. And I just think that the

32:40

absence of the kidening story in

32:42

her documentary, Spag volumes. Exactly.

32:44

And this, honestly, where we're at now? It's legal

32:47

mess. For the courtroom. It is. It

32:49

is. Because I was finding out guilty two minutes

32:51

ago. Because the vibe remains

32:54

weird. But she's not grateful

32:56

enough. The vibe remains, because

32:58

she says she says she is. Man,

33:00

but does it sound convincing?

33:04

Sure. Put

33:07

too little too late. That's what you

33:09

said. That's a new too

33:12

late into the mushroom tent that's

33:14

too late. Yes. Side

33:16

note, there's a rumor that Selena

33:19

doesn't actually have lupus because

33:21

when she was interviewed one time.

33:23

Mhmm. She was all not getting chemotherapy because

33:26

she had chemotherapy for lupus. She weren't

33:28

having chemotherapy. And instead of lupus, she

33:30

said leukemia. And everyone

33:32

picked up on that run with it. She's lying about

33:34

lupus. And to that, I say, did

33:36

any of us fake lupus

33:40

and have a kidney transplant for

33:43

no reason. Yeah. That's too far. Not

33:45

even about Gibson. Have a transplant. Very

33:49

true. No. There's a point at which our

33:51

lives. We we let it go.

33:53

Jesse, a rude interview. In

33:55

her Apple TV documentary, find

33:58

her name. That's a scene

34:00

where Selena is doing a press tour. And she's

34:02

being asked very basic questions by

34:04

lots of outlets. Like, what's your

34:06

favorite color? Really dumb questions. Then

34:09

a journalist asks, you're

34:12

a singer, you're an actor, you worked in

34:14

production, in fashion. Is

34:16

there any other hat you would like to try?

34:19

Selina likes this question. Oh, she

34:21

thinks it's more in-depth than the ones who's

34:23

already been asked, and she perks up a little bit

34:25

after seeming pretty low energy for the whole interview.

34:27

Is there any other hops you

34:29

would like to try?

34:33

I gotta say I'll do a little bit of

34:35

all of this for a while. But

34:38

eventually, when it all slows down

34:40

for

34:40

me, I'm probably going to devote

34:42

most of my life to philanthropy. I

34:45

Okay. That's good for me.

34:47

Okay. Wow. Thank you. Appreciate

34:51

it,

34:51

you know. Thank you very much. Like, you really

34:53

understood. I've seen this clip

34:55

on TikTok. In the green room

34:57

afterwards, Selena says, I'm

34:59

done. I can't do that anymore. Do you know

35:02

how I might feel like cheap? It makes me feel

35:04

like Yeah. She's

35:06

asking me questions, like good ones.

35:08

And then she didn't even pay

35:10

attention to what I was

35:11

saying. I don't wanna do that. There

35:14

we go. I feel like I'm a product.

35:16

She then starts ranting about how she feels like

35:18

a product and it makes her feel like Disney,

35:20

and how her outfit makes her look like a fucking

35:23

witch, which feels like it's not the interviewer's

35:25

fault. But I have a few points on this because

35:27

I'm quite passionate. This went viral

35:29

as evidence of how badly Selena Gomez

35:32

was treated by media? Very

35:35

hard disagree. Firstly,

35:38

interviewers, particularly with people like

35:40

Gomez, have a matter of minutes.

35:43

Usually between online, six and

35:45

eight. I've done it. Nice. Celebrity

35:47

who doesn't say philanthropy. Yeah. And

35:49

nine times out of ten, they actually haven't

35:52

really done anything and don't know what they're talking

35:54

about. And most importantly, you have to have

35:56

some self awareness about why people care about

35:58

you. And if you wanna try and put a spotlight

36:00

on it, fine. That

36:02

you and me and my mind are not. That's

36:05

about you, Selena. And people wanna know

36:07

about your music, and I agree that what's favorite

36:09

color is a silly or whatever, but this is part

36:11

of the game. It is. So

36:14

in those six to eight minutes, you can't have a

36:16

profound conversation. You can't

36:18

sit down and find out what Selena

36:20

Gomez thinks the meaning of life is. There's gonna

36:22

be a certain type of question you can ask And

36:25

depending on the publication, if you're interviewing

36:27

her for seventeen magazine, you're not

36:29

gonna ask her about politics. The

36:32

interviewer clearly wasn't

36:34

wrapping up the interview because she was bored

36:36

or uninterested. No. She was given a slot. She's

36:38

only being harassed by a publicist behind saints.

36:41

No one would wrap up an interview with Selena

36:43

Gomez early. No. No journalists would

36:45

do that. Secondly, when

36:47

you're on a press tour, reporters have a really

36:50

limited amount of things they're allowed to ask

36:52

you about. Yeah. So on this press too, I bet

36:54

she couldn't ask about the kidney. Yeah. Exactly.

36:56

Should've been told don't go near Francia, don't go

36:59

near it yet. It's usually

37:01

strictly related to the project, and

37:03

all of them are trying to make it interesting

37:06

and turn it into a headline. And I

37:08

am sorry. But Selena

37:10

Gomez is interested in philanthropy, is

37:12

not a headline. Would you click Jesse?

37:15

Mm-mm. No. No.

37:19

No. No one's reading that. I'm sorry, Selena.

37:22

Selena is also completely flat in her

37:24

aunt's She has no energy and then gets

37:26

annoyed at this report if not being impressed

37:29

enough by her wanting to do

37:31

philanthropy. Yes. Not profound. It

37:33

makes me so mad because the division between

37:35

what that reporter would have been getting paid versus

37:38

what Selena Gomez is getting paid.

37:40

And Celine is angry that she's not getting

37:42

enough attention for 1H2 for lab three.

37:45

It's also finally incredibly

37:47

unfair for Selena to use

37:49

her huge platform that she has in that

37:52

documentary to shame that journalist

37:54

-- Mhmm. -- who has no right of reply was

37:56

only doing her job, and there is absolutely

37:59

no context provided around it

38:01

in terms of how those things actually work. Can I talk

38:03

about the documentary now? Yes. Yes. Okay.

38:05

These are my notes. Because I was

38:07

thinking I watched the ad first to just

38:09

see if it was my vibe. Mhmm. And I was thinking

38:11

that it would be fun if someone I mean, our listeners

38:13

are too lazy, but maybe who listened to other podcasts

38:16

would've make a compilation of us over

38:18

really a mode of music, and it's us

38:20

getting on stage just like stepping

38:22

out there and we're laughing. In

38:24

slow motion. And then we visit our

38:26

childhood home, but we're just in sweats.

38:29

Okay. No. That's very simple. And then it's like us

38:31

on a bed with like our dog clack giving

38:33

the dog a kiss and then, like, we're

38:35

asleep because it's so tiring. And then a random

38:37

lady is telling me you you

38:40

see lives. And I like, give

38:42

them a hug or whatever. And then I'm staring

38:44

at myself in the mirror just like grappling with

38:47

me, myself, and I. And then

38:49

it reaches a crescendo and I'm just on

38:51

stage. I lost you halfway. Sorry

38:53

about the fantasy. But anyway,

38:55

then I was like, okay. I've gotta watch this documentary. Okay.

38:58

Yeah. So when you select it. Okay. It starts

39:00

and she's upset because her body is not womanly

39:02

enough. It's too young. She thinks she looks

39:05

too young. Okay. don't really like I wanna have

39:07

the body to wear it proudly, and

39:09

I want the booty that don't have.

39:11

My body's very

39:12

young. This has some Making sure I look

39:14

like a woman and not like a twelve year old

39:17

boy. She's worried her performance is really bad,

39:19

blah blah blah blah. Then

39:21

one of her friends is like Selena Gomez had this

39:23

breakdown. She was like, It

39:26

was just just her reaction

39:28

with South American. And then Selena is

39:30

doing a voiceover and she's like, my

39:33

thoughts take over my mind often.

39:36

Okay? I don't think that's as profound as you think

39:38

it is, but this is where it got

39:40

really good. Okay? She goes to her

39:42

childhood home. Right? And I love this when

39:45

famous people go back to their childhood home to be

39:47

like, look at what a poor person I

39:49

was. Look at the squalor I lived

39:51

in, but someone lives there now. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

39:53

And so she takes a camera crew in and she's like

39:55

She'd be like at the sadness. Yeah. Yeah.

39:58

Yeah. Look at what I became. So she

40:00

takes them through her sad sad childhood home,

40:02

and then she goes like a nap. I don't really understand,

40:04

but maybe a friend's family or something that was

40:06

down the road. And she sees a friend's

40:08

mom who is completely

40:11

bold because of treatment that she's been

40:13

undergoing. And she Selena goes don't

40:15

get up and she said can't get up. Right?

40:17

Like, she she's that ill. Okay. Okay.

40:19

Yeah. I need to paint a picture. Yeah. She says

40:21

that she's broken her ankle twice in the last

40:23

twelve months, this friend's mom.

40:26

I would assume looking at her that she's got

40:29

really serious cancer or something. Yeah.

40:31

That woman then are Selena.

40:34

How her health is. Okay.

40:36

And Selena spends five minutes talking

40:38

about her health. Okay. And that really sums

40:40

it up. Is it it is wreaking of mankind?

40:43

Her energy. Yeah. Well, that doesn't

40:45

surprise. She goes to her school. She

40:47

rings above her. They say, you need our dad

40:49

to get in. And she just laughs in their

40:51

face. She says, I don't have J. I'm Selena Gomez.

40:53

And then I'll get my

40:55

in. This is school shootings in

40:57

Texas. Okay. This is terrible. The name's

40:59

MIJ. Anyway, that eventually was.

41:02

Okay.

41:03

Wow. Thanks. I probably won't watch the second

41:05

half. Thanks

41:07

for doing that. For the listeners. Alright.

41:10

A thing on to Selena.

41:14

Your contributions are so erratic.

41:16

Selena's feud with Lord. It's

41:19

twenty first. Yep. Is

41:21

there a timeline? We're falling

41:23

here. God no. Selena

41:25

released this song called to come and get

41:27

it. We've already referenced it once. Jesse,

41:29

why don't you give it a scene? I

41:32

can't in the first time. When you're ready, come

41:34

and get it. No. No. No.

41:36

No. No. No. And it's a about hitting sex.

41:39

Yeah. It's about when

41:41

you're ready for sex. Come

41:43

and get it from me. Yeah. And I'll be here.

41:46

Ready. Okay?

41:48

Beautiful. It is it says

41:50

right here in my notes. A certified

41:53

ball. It is. It is. But

41:55

Lord doesn't like it. Lord

41:57

who song royals was popular at the time

41:59

said, I'm a feminist and the theme

42:02

of her song is when you're ready come

42:04

and get it from me. Wouldn't say it's a f

42:07

whatever lyrics. I thought it's explicitly

42:09

what it says. She said I feel

42:11

like the song is that coming and getting it.

42:13

Yeah. Well, that's the time. It's cold coming

42:15

in.

42:16

She said I'm sick of women being betrayed this

42:18

way. She laid out added in an interview

42:21

with MTV, I have pretty strong morals

42:23

and opinions being in pop music, and I can't

42:25

help but express those, which I think people

42:27

appreciate. So the lyrics

42:29

just for more context. I like, I'll be

42:31

sitting right here real patient all

42:33

day, all night. I'll be waiting. Standby.

42:37

And basically, it's like, if you're ready, come and get

42:39

it. Come and get it. Okay.

42:42

But then Gomez did an interview with Florence

42:44

Magazine and said, actually, Lord

42:47

is the one holding women back. I

42:49

actually covered her song in all of

42:51

my shows that I've done so far. I'm

42:53

not sure if I'm going to continue that.

42:55

She's upset because she thinks I'm

42:58

a ho. I

43:00

don't like that. So I know heard

43:02

my song good for

43:04

you. It's about looking

43:07

good for a man. Does she like that

43:09

one? No. No Selena. Gomez

43:12

then said a similar thing again, but with

43:14

different words -- Yeah. -- feminism and

43:16

that specific thing is very sensitive

43:19

because in my

43:19

opinion, it's not feminism

43:22

if you're tearing down other artists.

43:24

Absolutely. So that's the only thing that I

43:26

feel, but, you know, she's she's young. She's,

43:28

like, she's more like, she's got so much

43:30

talent and she's

43:31

gonna, like, take over. She she gets

43:34

it. And so I'm not I don't take it to heart.

43:36

I reckon. That Selena has

43:38

made up with Lord because for a time there

43:40

they were both friends with Taylor. Now,

43:43

Lord has since she's not really friends

43:45

with Taylor anymore. But I don't think nothing

43:47

you need to do with Selena. Maybe

43:49

they're both not friends. No. Selena's still friends

43:51

with Taylor. Maybe they have a new beef. Turkey.

44:03

Moving on to being problematic. Speaking

44:06

of comic get it, Nana Nana Nana

44:08

Nana Nana Nana. It's twenty fourteen and

44:10

Selena gets on stage at the MTV

44:12

movie awards and performs her sexy

44:15

song. But to accompany her

44:17

sexy song, she needed

44:19

a sexy app Any

44:22

ideas? I would wear kind

44:24

of like a Dominatoric style leather.

44:27

Come and get it. Come and get it. Come

44:29

cat or something. No. Okay.

44:31

Sweetie went full, Bollywood. She

44:34

wore a bindi on her foreign

44:37

which traditionally was worn by women

44:40

for religious purposes to indicate that

44:42

they were married, but it's now more

44:44

of a beauty mark. In, like, Southeast

44:46

Asia Yeah. Southeast Asian culture.

44:48

But just noting Selena is American, she

44:51

has some Italian and some Mexican, neither

44:53

Wijia, Indian. Just a geographically

44:56

close. Please describe what you see

44:58

here. So not only does she have

45:00

the bendy in the middle of her forehead, She

45:02

also has the full Bollywood get up

45:05

like the red. I think red is very big

45:07

in -- Mhmm. -- Hollywood, all the gold

45:09

chains, and she does appear to be doing

45:11

Bollywood dance wise

45:14

with her hands and her backup dancers

45:16

appear to be also doing

45:18

Hollywood dance. Smooth. It's very

45:20

strange as a song. It has nothing to me

45:22

to you. No. It's not coming to getting it. Yeah.

45:25

So I'm going to

45:27

just play one minute of her

45:29

two thousand fourteen performance. Commentary

45:32

is encouraged. I

45:36

love you. I got more reeds.

45:40

I love you much too much too

45:42

Oh, wow. These are all Bollywood moves that

45:44

we're seeing right now. Oh, all

45:46

the crowds getting into the Bollywood. Yeah.

45:48

There's not a of Southeast Asian women on

45:50

Staten Island, all white women? All her

45:52

styling is probably

45:55

white. I would take it by Top half, but the bottom

45:57

half appears to be naked. So

45:59

you want you don't often see Bollywood stars

46:01

naked from the waist down, but that's her

46:03

impression. They've actually tried to make

46:06

a little premium. Yes. And

46:08

even the gold Çöpler and that kind

46:10

of thing. The dancing feels

46:12

offensive with the soliciting of

46:14

the male gay, so it's supposed to be. Feels

46:17

like maybe not an understanding of

46:19

Indian culture perhaps. How do we

46:21

feel about the scene? Yes,

46:32

it seems very okay. I went, oh, it

46:34

seems like my team. I went, I didn't realize Selena

46:36

Gomez couldn't sing, and then I went, no, I think I

46:39

need. I think I knew that. I

46:41

think I didn't do that. She's very off

46:43

Kate. But I found that actually

46:45

almost more distracting than the Hollywood

46:47

inspired miss. Yeah. And when got

46:50

so many talents, we can't

46:52

be great at all of them, not only. Singing.

46:56

Dancing, acting, producing.

46:59

Exactly. And look, it was twenty

47:01

thirteen. Right? So cultural appropriation wasn't

47:04

something that People were totally across.

47:06

They weren't getting canceled for it yet, so she might

47:08

not have known, give her the benefit of the doubt.

47:10

But looking back on this ten years later,

47:13

very uncomfortable. It is.

47:15

Look, there's other stuff. Mhmm. She

47:17

worked with Woody Allen. Like, every

47:19

other famous person in Hollywood. She

47:22

also, during Black Lives Matter, this

47:24

is really important. She didn't

47:26

hashtag Black Lives Matter.

47:28

And So did she hashtag? It didn't

47:31

hashtag anything. And we all know

47:33

that if you don't hashtag then Thirty minutes.

47:35

Yeah. People got really upset

47:37

about that. Wow. So if you look at lists,

47:39

there are people who just compile lists

47:41

of like, here you go. I've got all

47:44

the problematic things. I went

47:46

through one of the list --

47:47

Mhmm. -- and he was hilarious. One

47:49

of them was the time she hit Justin

47:51

Bieber. And

47:52

I'm like, And there's a video. There's a video and

47:54

that's a video and that clicked on the video and she's

47:56

here. Yeah. Let's watched it over

47:58

and over again. Yeah.

48:00

I went and haven't seen you do it. Yep.

48:03

And, like, Justin Bieber went to

48:05

rehab and she did a dance with her friends.

48:07

Well, she didn't know. She gonna

48:10

do a dance with her friends. She's in her twenties.

48:12

I don't know what to say about that. There

48:14

was a lot of just trying to make her problematic

48:17

when she wasn't. And there's enough to

48:19

charge and send it to their end without

48:21

grasping at straw. You know what was interesting about

48:24

that list? No mention of the kidney.

48:26

I'll put you on number one.

48:28

Cancel your offense. Alright. Chargers and sentences.

48:36

You go first. Alright. My charge. Not

48:39

having enough respect for someone else's

48:41

organ. Oh, I'm speaking

48:43

about a kidney graft. Sorry. Okay. Good. Well,

48:46

no. But we do need to be broad because

48:48

if if a case like this comes up again,

48:50

then we need to say, no. It's generally organs.

48:52

I don't had other organs are transferable.

48:55

An eye? No. Because

48:57

then you'll lose your eye. Yeah. But you might. If

48:59

you're really Which is related to, and this another

49:02

crime that I'm going to enter into

49:04

the cancel courtroom for good into

49:06

the rulebook. And that is exuding

49:08

too much make care energy. Mhmm. Right.

49:10

I saw this in an interview recently with an Australian

49:13

singer who said, fame

49:15

gives you don't know if she makes her noise. Basically.

49:18

Yeah. And I just saw that with Selena even

49:20

going into her school. It's like

49:23

no one has more makeup denergy, dancing.

49:25

I mean, isn't that just every single famous

49:27

person? Yeah. That's why it's a good one. Okay. Yeah.

49:30

For the rulebook. Because I will say she has been

49:32

the main character since she was, like,

49:34

five, seven, but on your knee. Yeah.

49:36

So the sentence I struggle with

49:38

a little bit, you always do.

49:40

Yeah. Because I brainstormed and then didn't really come up

49:42

with one because I was distracted by me and my mind

49:44

and I. Maybe she could make

49:46

a documentary just about her friend's

49:48

kidney. Yeah. Why? Not

49:50

about a transplant. Just kind of about

49:53

the kidney. Right? And it's like going

49:55

out on stage, but it's a kidney. And give

49:57

it a bit of a nay. Yeah. That's nice and really

49:59

great. But it's a cute. Yeah. And the kidneys wearing,

50:02

like, a hat and sunnies and, like,

50:04

there's all the paparazzi stuff and the kidneys

50:06

kind of shielding its face

50:08

from everyone. Before we get to

50:10

my chardan sentence, I

50:13

guess the question is, Did

50:15

she acknowledge the kidney enough

50:18

in the Apple TV documentary? I think we're in

50:20

agreement about that. Like she made what Well,

50:22

what saying words are empty.

50:25

Actions speak aloud out. I don't know what I

50:27

wanted to do, but I'm just putting

50:29

that on the table. I do think that

50:31

there are some kidney related actions

50:33

that were missing. Yes. And

50:36

so my answer to, did she acknowledge

50:38

it enough? He's absolutely not. No.

50:41

Nothing will be enough for us. And I think

50:43

that's probably something we need to be

50:45

real about within ourselves. The

50:48

the other thing is But, you know, elephant

50:50

in the room, no one's watched that documentary, dear

50:52

dot dot dot dot. I hadn't heard of

50:54

it. I don't think it's called dear.

50:56

I don't think it's called dear. But

50:58

I think Selena went, this is a publicity moment

51:01

for me, to acknowledge the kidney.

51:03

But we're finding her guilty for not acknowledging

51:06

the kidney on her other

51:07

platforms. Exactly. Click, which is the

51:09

doco. Her doco.

51:11

Jesus. And I mean People

51:15

say that with a big gaming wholes. He's

51:17

not just gone. Tear

51:19

dot dot dot. Are you later and think

51:21

you can make up for it? No. And

51:23

and in the rules, I think get him

51:25

born and no one had heard of that show until

51:27

Selena talked about her kidney. So it's

51:29

not enough for me personally. So

51:31

my charge in sentence is as follows. Playjurism,

51:35

kidney wise. Okay. So

51:37

what she's done is she's used someone else's kidney

51:39

and she has not referenced it appropriately. That's

51:42

a really good point. If she had been to university,

51:44

she would have realized you can use it.

51:46

It's there for you to use. Voice of Footnote.

51:48

Where is it? Come on. So on

51:51

Wiki where it says Selena Gomez,

51:53

however old she is, it should have a little one next

51:55

to it, and then you should go down. Yeah. And it

51:57

says Francis Kidney. Well,

52:00

my sentence is, I

52:02

need her to reference the kidney when she

52:05

uses it. At the end

52:07

of every performance, when she works on a project.

52:09

Selena Gomez, feet, Francis's

52:12

kidney. Avon murders in the building.

52:14

Yeah. Yeah. I reckon it's own

52:16

credit Mhmm. -- because it'll be Sona

52:19

Gomez. And then I reckon just completely

52:21

separately, France is his kidney. It's

52:23

like alphabetically. Yeah. Alphabetically.

52:26

Actually. Yeah. K. Yeah. Probably

52:28

likely. K. Yeah. Yeah. And

52:30

people go, is that someone's name?

52:32

France, he's kidney cancer? No. No. It's literally

52:35

franchises. Nearly every scene. Mhmm.

52:38

Well, it's in every scene with Selena. Please

52:40

let us know what your sentence

52:43

and charge is in the

52:46

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52:49

let us know. What we love about that is

52:51

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52:53

And then when they read the reviews, they won't understand

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52:58

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53:02

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53:04

will the show, which I think is important because

53:06

we're doing God's work. Yes. I know that's like

53:09

a boring thing and as long as you're busy,

53:11

you're just lazy. So what you can do is just give

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