Today, we're diving into a story that many of us can relate to—fear of rejection and the journey to mastering communication. Our guest, Chris Fenning once avoided selling because he dreaded hearing a "no." But now? He embraces those "no's" because he knows they're steps closer to a "yes."

Chris is passionate about "Making communication less painful" because he's lived through the chaos of endless meetings and emails that seemed to never end. He's been there, delivering tough news to senior folks, and he's learned a thing or two along the way.

One of his early blunders? Thinking that "Talking more = A better communicator." Thankfully, a mentor named Carlos set him straight.

Stick around for this interview— join us as we uncover Chris's journey to making communication less painful.