In this episode, Rich talks with his guest and long-time amigo, Pepe "Barranco" Benavides. The conversation includes how Pepe has become the "official" graphic artist of the international canyoneering community, lending his creativity and talent to countless projects over the past 22 years.

Pepe also shares information about the international canyon rendezvous taking place in Mexico in November 2024 and his role in the planning and organization of the event.