Drum roll, please! For the first time ever, the Carearing podcast has not one but TWO male guests on the show, Scott Joseph, CEO of J&L Marketing, and Sandy Cerami, CEO of Sandy Cerami and Associates. On this important episode Sandy and Scott bravely take on what is needed from our male counterparts to enable women to be the rightful leaders they are - and I have to tell you, their answer may surprise you! 

In addition we share what's in store for the Business Bourbon and Cigars mastermind event in Louisville in September and really get down to the most pressing question of all - in a boat race, would Sandy or Scott take the winning title? Hope you'll join us! 

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