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Welcome to Can'tflee Reckless, the production of

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just like that, we're back with yet another Canfully

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Reckless episode with your girl Jess. Hilarious. We

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don't jump straight in two. It's so

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this is more written passages

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from people. Again. I encourage you guys

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to send voice notes in unless

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you have a distinctive voice and people

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can guess who you are because a lot of people do listen.

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So I'm just letting you know. But you

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know, y'all know, I'm basically still saying I'd rather

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listen to y'all than to read

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y'all shit because y'all punctuation still be off.

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God damn. All right, but it's

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Hello, Okay. So I have been

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married with my husband for about fifteen years

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now. We were high school sweethearts

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and even after that, we were the golden couple.

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Ever since we got married.

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We would take trips at least six times

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year, always date each other, and just

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live the life a married couple should really have.

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This man has loved me unconditionally

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through everything. About ten years ago,

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in thirty now, I figured out that I

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would not be able to have kids, and it crushed

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me, but all he did was build me up and reassure

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me that it's okay and never left

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my side. Up until recently, everything

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was perfect. I noticed a change in his attitude.

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It wasn't nonchalant, but it just feels

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like that he's just putting up with me. I don't

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know, maybe he is getting bored. It took me by

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surprise because we literally switched

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things up and tried to keep the relationship

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spontaneous. So I'm just confused on

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the whole switch in character. I also

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tell you the story about me not being able to have

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kids because we did recently have a

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conversation about it and I did pour my heart

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out to him about not having kids are being

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able to give him one, and he did reassure

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me. But maybe this is the reason why he's

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been acting a different way. Maybe I did

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put the thought in his head that he will never have

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kids as long as he's married to me. I

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could be overthinking, but that's literally

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my only theory when it comes to it. I don't

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believe he's a cheater or would do anything to

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hurt me, and we have great communication,

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so that's why I'm leaning towards this. Maybe

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he doesn't want to bring him back up, so I won't

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feel the way. Or maybe it could just be something

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else, girl, I don't.

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Know what do you think?

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Damn? All right? Well, first

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of all, you've been married to this

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guy for a decade

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now, Like you say, it started off

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really really really really great.

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You know, Lover's lane so

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amazing. Y'all were in love. There was

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nothing going on, he kept reassuring you. Now,

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you told him in the beginning that you were unable to have children,

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and he still fell in love with you, you know, in

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spite of all that you know, and you

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fell in love with him. Has

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he ever told you that he really wants kids?

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I mean, obviously you

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can't, but it still

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matters if he wants to. Has that ever

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been a conversation? Has he ever said,

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well, this is something that I want. I really really do

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want children, you know, because there are other ways

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that you guys can have kids,

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you know, other than vaginally. You know, there's

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adoption, there's so many other

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ways. You get what I'm saying, Like, is

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this a situation where you can't do in vitro? Do

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you not believe in that? Like not

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to get I guess too personal? Because if

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you would have wanted me to know, you would have told me. So let's

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just scrap that. But have you guys ever considered

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adoption, you know? Or is

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that something that you just never entertained? Because

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if the child doesn't come biologically from

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you or him, then I

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could understand if that was an issue, you know

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what I mean? Like I do understand, But then

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there is things like surrocacy, like

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have you ever considered a surrogate somebody

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to carry a baby for you? I

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know, these things get pricey. However,

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they are alternate routes that

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you can take if you really

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do want children. Now, as

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far as his behavior, him just switching, totally

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switching. Usually

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with situations like this you see

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red flags. You see not

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a sudden change of pattern,

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but you'll see a build up,

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you know what I'm saying. Because the

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fact that he just switched, that

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could be something else. I mean, it could

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have something to do with you not

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being able to have children, but it also could

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be something else because that's a deeper

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situation, you not being able to have

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children. I know he has to think about that every day,

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especially if he wants to be a dad, If he desires

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to be a father, then yes, that's something

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that he would have to think about every day, and that's just

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not a switch that you flip. You get what

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I'm saying, So please understand,

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I'm not accusing him of cheating. I'm not accusing

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him of just falling out of love with you. I'm not accusing

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him of any of those things. Only

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you know what I'm saying. However, we

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can't just throw away

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with the fact that it may be something like that

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because of the sudden mood change,

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because of the sudden pattern change and

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all of that. Do you guys not spend as much time

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together? Does he turned off? Does he seem

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uninterested in you at times? Have you

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ever set him down and talked to him about it? Or are

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you just trying to make sure you're not crazy

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and tell another person in your situation before

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you do actually approach it

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or approach him. Let me know, and

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you let me know a lot, but it's still a lot more I would

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like to know. Also, you've got to understand

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when you don't communicate. You know, when we as

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women don't communicate, we kind

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of let things linger. Could you have been

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ignoring signs before he just flipped the

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switch? Could you not have been paying attention this

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whole time? So whereas like you notice

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the end of his build

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up and now it's just a flip switch

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to you, like it seemed

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like it happened in the blink of an eye, Like could

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you take some type of accountability

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to say now only if it's

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yours to take. Don't take accountability for some shit

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that is not true. But I'm just saying, could you

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have overlooked how he felt

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because he kept reassuring you? You know

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what I'm saying, because listen, I just got finished

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talking about this on the last yest with the mess actually

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not on the last just fix my mesk, the one

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that I do on breakfast Club. A lot of people cannot

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tell the truth because

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they don't want to hurt somebody's

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feelings. You know, they're sparing someone's

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feelings, so you oftentimes

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tiptoe around what

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you have to say or how you're really feeling

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because you don't want to hurt somebody's feelings.

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That's what he could have been doing to you, and that's what you could

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have been doing to him, you know, because

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what if he was never okay with you not having

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children? Oh what if he was okay in the earlier

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years of y'all's marriage, but then he developed

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such a desire to become a father and

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want more family, you

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know than just you want a family,

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you know, like, what if that was the

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thing for him? What if that's what he

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really wanted? You know, So you have

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to sit down and talk to him. That's your husband, that's

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not your boyfriend. It's not just a little jump

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off. This ain't one of the niggas on your roster. You understand

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what I'm saying. You don't got to hide how you feel at all.

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I've been together ten years, you know. I'm

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pretty sure y'all have experienced rough

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patches in marriages. I mean, no marriage

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is perfect at all, you

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know, So I'm pretty sure this wouldn't

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be the first uncomfortable conversation that you

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guys have had to have, especially

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the elephant in the room. You're unable to have

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children. I imagine how hard it was for you to

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tell him that, and how hard it

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is if he wants to be a dad to reassure you

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that it's okay. You get what I'm

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saying. So I think you

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should sit down with your husband and talk to

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him and fully get through with him. And I always

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encourage people don't get up from their damn

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table until you have answers that you need. If

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that other person got to get up, so be it. But

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that's what we do. We try so

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hard to tiptoe and to coddle

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other adults, whether we're in love with

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them or not, you know, just to

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save and spare their feelings. No, this

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is the uncomfortable part of this marriage. It

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has to go here so I can get what you're feeling.

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If I got to make you feel uncomfortable to tell me

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the truth, I'm gonna do that. So let me you

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know what is it? Is there? Is it another woman? Is it the

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fact that I really can't have kids but

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you don't want to leave me for it because you're in love with me

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but you still want children? Is it? You

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know? Is it that I'm boring you? Is

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it that our sex life has now

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lost spice? Like? Is it? Because it could

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be something else? I'm not just gonna jump straight

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to cheating, you know? Is

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my communication off? Do you feel like I don't

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pay you enough attention? Like? What

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is it? I've noticed a

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pattern, like a change in your pattern?

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You don't hold me the same. You don't look at me the same. We

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don't talk anymore, we don't go on trips anymore.

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And this it seems sudden to me. But if

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this is something that you've been feeling, why

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haven't you come to me? And right

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now, more importantly, is the right time

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to come to me? Because I notice it and

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it's making me feel like it's my fault. Let

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me know what's going on. You know

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I'm in the dark about this, and

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then you should get an answer, honey, But let

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me know. Check back in answer my question

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and see y'all be trying to help y'all, But y'all be trying to

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leave little juicy off the fruit. I

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don't know why I just said that, y'all be trying

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to leave meat off the bone. I'm just say that. I

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say, y'all be trying to leave juicy off the fruit.

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What giry

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say anything when you're pregnant. I'mna blame everything on this

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baby. I don't care. I'm gonna blame everything on the

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baby. I'm tired of the hell nose bleeding. I'm like, what

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the fuck is going on here? Jesus

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So to all the other pregnant mothers out

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there. Please let me know if

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y'all experience dry nose and

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bloody nose, Like, what the

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hell? I wake up in the middle of the night, blow my nose. It's

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all blood like. I wake up in the morning to

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clear out my you know, just to clear

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my system out, and it's it's it

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ain't even muchis and s not, it's blood

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Like, what the hell is going on? I've

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never had this issue. I mean, I

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have here and there, but it's so frequent

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now it's not every day, but it's very

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much more frequent than it's ever been.

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And it's very weird. If you love

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me, you'll listen to this commercial and then we'll

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be right back, all

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right, John, Okay, so move it on.

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Jess, I was an addict for fifteen

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years and I am now five years clean. During

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the process of getting clean, I met

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my best friend at an AA meeting and

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she wasn't an addict, but she was the caterer

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there. They would hire her to cater the meetings

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once a week. Fast forward, I became

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the godmother of her first child, and she

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also became mine. Btw.

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I am engaged right now to my child's

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father. So about three months ago, my

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best friend lost her mother and she hasn't

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been taking it too well.

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I definitely wouldn't expect her to.

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I mean, she just lost her mom, but I'm

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noticing a lot of change in her, and I honestly

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know she's doing drugs and not telling me. I'm

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not sure what kind. I'm definitely

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leaning towards pills. It started with her

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dropping my godson off to me and

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not coming back until the middle of the night, and

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she looked so out of it. She said she had

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a lot of errands to run and that's why

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she looked so tired. And I went for

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it, but I still had that thought in the back of my head.

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Now recently, I went over her house

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to spend the day with her, and we sat

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down and was just having a conversation.

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She dozed off in the middle and snapped

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back and forgot everything we talked about.

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I mean, her eyes was rolling in the back of her

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head. She was so out of it.

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Luckily, her son wasn't there that day because

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I would have took him with me, but I did leave

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because I felt triggered. I called her the next

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day to tell her about herself, and she

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had no idea what I was talking about. I

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immediately knew she was getting high. I

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used to be an addict, so I definitely would

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know. We got into an immediate argument

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because she kept denying it, and I told her I can't

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be around someone who uses. She tells

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me she don't give a fuck, and I don't have to

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be around her, and she's not using. I

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know how hostile you can be when you're under the influence,

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so I'm not going to hold that against her, but

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I know I just can't be around that. And also

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I know that she's still grieving. I tried

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reaching out to her for a week straight and she did

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nothing but ignore me, and I'm very worried.

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I even just texted her to see my godson

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and no reply, which makes me even more worried.

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I love my best friend to death, but I

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don't want her to go down this hole. And I

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refuse to go down that hole with her because

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being around her could possibly make me relapse.

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But she's my best friend, so

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I'm kind of in a hard situation. How

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can I be there for her and not relapse at

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the same time, because it's very triggering

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to be around her in that state and Jess.

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I know you may not have a straightforward answer

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because this is a lot, and I'm sorry for even

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putting all this out there because the story is

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crazy, but I would love some advice.

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Well, sweetie, let me tell you,

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I got to break this down. This says a lot. I

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have never been an

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addicts before, however,

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I mean, if we're talking about weed and shrooms and

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you know, things like that, then

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yes, But I did have

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many of them in my family. I know many of them,

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and I do understand. I understand what your

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what your friend is going through, and understand what you're

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going through. You know. I watched aunts and uncles and

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cousins go through that, and some

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be pulled back into it after

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getting off the horse, and then some you

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know, not wanting to be around the

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others, you know, who've been

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pulled back in after both of them got clean,

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and shit, I do understand, and I just

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want to say congratulations on your

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engagement. You know. I love that. Love

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love love that you had a complete

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three sixty. And also

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I love the fact that you were able to form

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a bond with somebody who was going through

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something so similar, you know, because then you guys

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can relate on that journey. You

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know, however, everybody

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is not going to be

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as strong as everybody

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else. You get what I'm saying, like everybody handles

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things differently. She lost her mom, You

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know, she was on the right path until she had

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another lost. I imagined that her and her mom

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were closed or her mom was somebody that helped

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her, probably out with her son. Now

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you're off to a you know, a whole

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nother turning point

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in your life. You know you've pivoted in

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such a way or you don't want to go back.

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However it is triggering for you. Then

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what you need to do is have your

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husband or your fiance be

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that shield for you. That's your

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best friend and that's the mother of your

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god baby. I wouldn't say give up on her, and I

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know you don't want to put yourself

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at risk into falling back into that

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hole. I do understand that, However,

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you don't want your best friend to go

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back so deep into that hole.

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Right And while it's still early, it's

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so early, I still feel that there's a way that you can

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catch her. You know, you can pull it back about

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that shit. You understand what I'm saying.

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There was a reason that you too connected. There was a

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reason that you two actually

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became best friends, or

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whether it was trauma bonding, you

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know, from the drugs behind the drugs, or whatever

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it was, there was a reason that you two met.

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You get what I'm saying. And right now you're about to walk

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down the aisle. I do understand. I'm not asking

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you to take on burdens of other people. That's not what

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I'm asking you to do. I'm asking you to also

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bringing a professional, but you're the more

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familiar face. And yeah,

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of course she lashed out on you

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because in a way, she feels like you're looking down on

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her. But this is all why she's high. You

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understand what I'm saying. And then you know, even

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when she's sober, it's that guilt eating her up.

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But she's fucking grieving as well.

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And she's not grieving the loss of another

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friend. She's not grieving the loss

15:22

of a you know, a parrot or you know her

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a parrot as a bird everybody like a bear or what. You

15:28

know, She's not grieving just the loss of

15:30

some person. What this is? How

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mom? You

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know? And I don't know if you

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know that pain. I don't even know that pain. But I

15:38

know a lot of people that has that pain, and

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I understand. I

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understand. I cannot put

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myself in their shoes because I don't feel what they feel,

15:47

but I can understand what it's like losing

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a person that birthed you, especially

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if y'all relationship wasn't on the ouse and

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it ain't have to be the best. But you only get one of them.

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You only get one freaking mom.

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The whole reason that I exist, other

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than God himself, is gone

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my mother. You understand what I'm saying. Hold

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up, Hold up, I know this shit getting good, But listen

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to just a couple seconds of a commercial. If

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you love me, you'll listen. You

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don't want to fall back into that shit. I get it. You

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talk to your husband, I mean, you talk to your son

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to be husband. You talk to other people.

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Did you have any other people in your foundation,

16:25

like any other people that inspired

16:27

you, that helped you along the way to stay clean, like

16:29

something else, somebody else. It's

16:32

going to take a couple of people. But y'all got to get her out

16:34

of that. Well. I don't want to say

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y'all got to get her out of that, because then I'm

16:38

actually putting a lot of pressure on you. But that's

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your friend, you know what I'm saying, that's

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the mother of you, god child. I don't care if it

16:45

is. You take your god baby, you

16:48

get what I'm saying, and send a professional in to

16:50

help her. And then I also can already

16:52

feel that you feel a sense of obligation as

16:54

well, because y'all, y'all went through y'all

16:56

journey together kind disorder, you know. I mean,

16:59

you met her in there, you met her and rehab,

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you know, so I just want you

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to have just a little bit more, you know, give her a lot,

17:05

give her a little bit more grace, you know, try

17:08

to help her. You know, if you can't do it, because

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you can't do it alone, if you can't do it even

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with support, then I understand.

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You know, at least you tried. But if

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that were you, you get what I'm saying,

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and the table's returned, you

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will want her to pull you up out of that shit. You

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know. You know that behavior all too well. You

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know, she don't mean nothing that she say that's out of pocket

17:30

or that's mean she just grieving, And

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then on top of that, she used and is she guilty? You

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know? What I'm saying, So just

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try, just just try, just try.

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But in order for you not to slip, you

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got to have your support system too when

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you go help her. If your husband,

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I mean, you know, I keep saying husband, I'm

17:50

just so happy that you get married. If

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your fiance has to be with you

17:55

when you go and a couple other people

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go, go back to your rehab, snitch

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on her. Look, look she's backing. You know, her

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mom just died, she's grieving.

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Who can go with me to her house? Yo? Come

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on, man, we gotta get her right. I can help

18:09

take the baby, or we can give the baby to like

18:12

you know, another close family member that she got

18:14

somebody something. But I need to

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get my best friend together. That's

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your best friend, you know what I'm saying.

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For a reason, thank you

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for writing me. I'm happy that you did reach

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out. This is something that

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I do know all too well, because, like

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I said, close friends and family on

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both sides of my family. You know, I have gone

18:34

through this. And then I grew up in West Baltimore City,

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you know, so I've seen this from

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a child, you know what I'm saying, As a

18:41

child, from a growing child, I've seen shit like

18:43

this. You know, a lot of my friends did make

18:45

it. A lot of them did, A lot of them went back

18:47

to that shit, a lot of them did not, a lot

18:49

of them stayed friends with

18:51

each other, A lot of them didn't. Because people

18:54

do change, people

18:57

do evolve, and some people don't, you

18:59

get what I'm saying. So like, if you can

19:01

make a difference, definitely make one. You will

19:03

not regret it, you know, But don't, like

19:05

you said, don't put yourself in a line of fire. And you're

19:07

strong enough to know that, and that's why I'm really proud

19:10

of you for that. A lot of you know, ex

19:12

addicts, they're not even strong enough to

19:14

realize when they can be triggered. You get

19:17

what I'm saying, because a lot of them haven't reached that point yet.

19:19

But check back in with me, baby girl. I want

19:21

to say I do love you. I even love your

19:23

friend. You know what I'm saying. I ain't got to know y'all

19:25

to love y'all. I'm a stranger from the outside

19:28

looking in, but I do care about

19:30

both of you women, and of course that baby

19:33

you know, So just write me back, let

19:35

me know, keep me posted, and

19:38

just like that, We've come to yet another

19:41

ending to carefully reckless episode

19:43

with your Girl just hilarious. What I'll be doing, I'll

19:45

be fixing, ask y'all. That's what I'll be trying to do. Y'all,

19:47

be trying to do it even with this full

19:49

on belly, this baby growing up in here.

19:52

Listen, y'all. I said I wanted to have a gender revealed,

19:54

but I don't know, Like I don't know. I'm just

19:56

I'm getting the closer I'm getting to, like my

20:00

getting into my pregnancy, like the deeper I'm getting

20:02

into my pregnancy. I'm like, look, listen, that gender

20:05

reveal shit is just something that has developed

20:07

over social media. That's for the Internet, and I don't

20:09

give a fuck. I want to know. Like, of

20:11

course Chris want to know. That's my boyfriend

20:14

Slash Babies, and yeah, he wanted

20:16

to know, but he's down with

20:18

whatever I'm down with, And like my

20:21

friends and my family gonna be so upset, but

20:24

we got the look I'm probably gonna go see

20:26

right now, like yo, because we didn't

20:28

have the email for two weeks. But it's just like,

20:30

nigga, I want to know what the fuck

20:32

I'm having. I want

20:34

to know what I'm having, and I gotta tell I just

20:37

I can't. Like, I mean, I probably won't tell the

20:39

world. I don't know, but I need to

20:41

know. I just want to know. I've

20:43

been manifesting a girl. I feel like a girl been baking

20:45

up in here. And yeah,

20:47

because listen when I say I don't get fucked by none,

20:50

I don't get fucked by none. That's

20:52

real shit. You know. When I was pregnant

20:54

with ash what I do remember, I don't remember a lot

20:57

of things, like every little

20:59

thing when I

21:01

was pregnant with Ashen, But I

21:03

do remember being

21:05

emotional and actually caring about every

21:07

little thing, and like I was trying

21:10

to like I don't know,

21:12

like I just cared a little bit too much

21:14

about everything, and that like caused me

21:16

to stress out, like nah, like

21:19

but I don't know if that's the difference in having a boy or

21:21

a girl, but nigga, I just remember that being so

21:23

vulnerable and so emotional when

21:25

I was nineteen and pregnant, like

21:28

like anything, I could see two birds on the

21:30

roof and just cry because I'm like, I

21:33

don't know what nast did they come out

21:35

of? Are they lost? Story? I'm talking about everything.

21:37

I would watch TV and cry care too much about

21:39

actors and I'm like, bitch, this is a scripted series.

21:42

These are actors. What are you doing? Like stop?

21:45

And then I would get bent out of shape about

21:47

little situations that I would be in and I'm like,

21:49

how what is going on? So I

21:51

just really really feel like this is a

21:53

girl because Babe, you can't pay

21:56

me to give two shits about shit going on today.

21:58

I don't give a fun I'm talking about all these people coming

22:00

at me, all these like anything

22:02

from anything. You can't get

22:05

me to give to shits about

22:07

it. Like I am so fucking

22:10

relaxed and chills and just happy

22:13

and non give

22:16

a fuck like I'm for

22:18

real, I make fun of everything. I don't

22:20

care, like I don't care should

22:23

That's where I'd be sitting there, like, oh you want to argue,

22:26

You want to argue, baby,

22:29

argue with your damn self. I'm gonna say, price

22:31

it like two three jokes and get it the fuck

22:33

moving, keep it moving. But I

22:36

love you all, and make sure you tune

22:38

in every Wednesday to my podcast. Also get

22:40

your tickets. April twenty seventh, we

22:43

got the second annual Black

22:45

Effect Podcast Festival and Atlanta

22:47

Pullman Yards. Get your tickets on the event. Bright Charlemagne,

22:50

shout the shut out, every goddamn Dad. That

22:53

will be me, Whilo and Gilly,

22:56

Lexandrea. We got a couple other people

22:58

in the lineup Yard. It'll be some annals. We got

23:00

food trucks and vendors and

23:03

all types of stuff. We got people with up and coming

23:05

podcasts that will be there, So make sure

23:07

you come and enjoy yourselves. I

23:09

love you, guys, and in my deepest pan voice,

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