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as well. But all I know is

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just hilarious. It's gonna be live fixing

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Mess and I'm gonna be pulling people

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out the crowd.

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Now. Look, ain't none of this shit gonna be you

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know, pre planned, and none of that shit.

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I'm gonna get people out the

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audience to come up there and tell

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me their situations and tell me their mess

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and you know, get my advice and stuff like that.

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I might be able to clean it up for you.

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Don't come with no heavy, deep ass

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stories and shit like.

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Oh my God, like non mine.

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I ain't even gonna give no examples, cause I ain't trying to give you

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no fucking ideas. But don't come up there and ask me some shit.

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Y'all know I can't help y'all with. All right, don't

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come up there and crazy. Don't come up there. I'm

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telling you because y'all get tackled off the motherfucking stage.

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If anybody come up there try and shit because

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y'a already know what the fuck.

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Going on with me. But yeah, y'all, I'm be very

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much pregnant.

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I'm even more pregnant, y'all, so I'm

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gonna be very emotional. Don't try to make me cry because

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I already do it at the drop of a fucking dime, all

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right, so please, all right, So we're gonna jump

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straight and so we got.

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Two long, long, long, long, long,

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long, long long stories, and we're

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gonna get to it right now.

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Hi, Jess, listen, I am twenty three years old,

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and I'm an extreme introvert.

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I know what that's like.

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I'm not really a big party person and I don't do large

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crowds, but my friends do. One

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of my good friends just throw a party for her twenty

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second birthday.

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Now.

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She's way more social than me and also

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have many other friends outside of me. The

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party was lit, all types of different music

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and all types of different people. I know you've scaate

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as fuck, shaking in the corner, all

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types. Yes, I'm a big energy

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person, and when I tell you I felt the energy

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shift before it's shifted, I

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really did. Her other friends started

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to get sloppy drunk, falling all over

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the place and getting extra loud with each other.

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Oh, girl, I was just at my birthday party and

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I ain't no introvert or nothing, but I

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wasn't able to drink and I'm pregnant, So yeah,

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I guess I'm an introvert while I'm pregnant. So I felt

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the same way, Lord Jesus,

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because everybody in my birthday button. No, man, let me finish

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the story. Girl, I started going on about my all

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right, so continue on, y'all. No,

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everyone was not like that, but these are

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her other main friends that we're

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talking about here. Mind you, these

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are not my friends. I'm just here for

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her. They were all bumming into me, spilling

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drinks on my shoe.

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And screaming in my ear.

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Oh lord, I allowed it for a little

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bit, but I can only take but so much, and I'm

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already not big on parties.

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So I told my friend that I was ready to go.

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It was already close to the end of the party anyway,

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but her other friends talked her into going

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to a club after crying after

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body, and it's her birthday, so I understand.

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I definitely wasn't going to that shit. Lol.

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She was a little said that I was leaving, but

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she understood.

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But girl, as I was telling her, her friends

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decided to come over and they heard me tell her

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that I was leaving. They started screaming,

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oh girl, you so stiff, You such

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a square? What was your point of even coming? First

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of all, y'all bitches is drunk and she is not calm to

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fucking down. I was like, oh, there's the energy

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I felt. I didn't let that stop me from leaving,

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nor did I let that mess with my character. But

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I did laugh in their face and told them to get

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out of my way. And proceeded to leave. The

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next day, I text my friend and asked her

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how was last night and also tell

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her that I had a good time with her. She tells me

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that she enjoyed her night, but she didn't

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like how I left early, and that she didn't

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feel like I even wanted to be there, and

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that I.

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Was also acting stiff. Oh, she

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didn't let her fucking friends get on her head, baby, like

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very much clownbed out, and she she was drunk.

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She was still drunk from the night before.

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Because, bitch, you already know as my friend that I'm

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a fucking introvert.

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But let me continue.

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Immediately, in my head, I got confused because,

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for one, she already knows I'm not a big

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party person, but I definitely did party

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with her last night.

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And for two, did she have her other friends

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get in her hair? Girl?

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I ain't even read your story, and I'm like all up

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in your head? Girl, yes, because I just said the same thing.

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That's why I need to shut up and finish the story before I

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do my commentary.

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This is crazy.

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I already know that they probably were talking

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about me when I left, because that's how

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they are. But I'm just hoping that this

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is her own personal opinion and that she's

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not letting her other friends make her feel away

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about me. I have yet to respond to

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her, and that's only because I'm

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usually a talker before I am a thinker, so

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I don't want to jump straight to something and

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that's not what it.

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But I would say this did throw me off a little

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bit.

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It's only been a few hours since she texted, but

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I had no idea when you would open this message.

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Just so, what do you think I would

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love a second opinion before I respond to this woman?

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Lol?

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Just also, I would not be thinking like

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this if this hasn't happened before. There

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was a situation previously where I felt like our friends

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were talking mad shit about me and influenced

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her decisions a little bit.

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So this is just a build up.

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Hold up, hold up, I know this shit getting good, But

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listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial.

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If you love me, you'll listen.

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Okay, Well, honey, listen. You got

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my attention, and I'm definitely gonna let you know. I mean,

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if you haven't already

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caught on by now, I am feeling

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the same exact way you're feeling, and then this

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is my thing. I can certainly relate to this because I just

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had a birthday party over the weekend for Cuba

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and Baltimore and my little sister,

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my cousins, my friends, all

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of them are extroverted when they're partying.

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You know what I'm saying.

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My little sister said, you know, to some point, she's to herself,

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but when she gets around people that she loves, you

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know, she comes out of her shell.

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You know. And our dad was there, and

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it's Baltimore. You know what I'm saying. Our dad ain't no little old

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nigga would have cane like this.

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Nigga be party and this is where we got

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our party animal side from, you know what I'm

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saying. But I couldn't drink, I couldn't smoke,

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I'm pregnant, But I just was happy to be around

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my loved ones. Now, my brother Dasi,

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he's an introvert, and he

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was sitting down all night and he barely

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correct the goddamn smile, you know what I'm saying.

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And he was still just happy

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to be there.

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But we all know Dazsi, we all know

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he's an introvert, so we're not gonna expect for

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him to jump up doing the dougie and

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you know or whatever.

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He's not the type to go grab a fucking mic. Now.

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He is a stand up comedian, but

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that's when we're working on stage, you know, that's

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when we are called to action. We're

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called to do what we do for

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a living. You get what I'm saying. He's

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an introvert and everybody knows that. Ain't

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nobody say why does he over there

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being stuff like, uh, that's why he shouldn't even have

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came because, mind you, I went in the house

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after the party, but everybody else

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with their separate ways to other parties.

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Mind you' SEEUA a weekend, so it's parties all

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over the place, Dazzy, I guarantee you a home and his

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family, you know what I'm saying. And then I went home

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to mine only because I'm pregnant, But I would

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have been right out with the rest of my friends

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and my sister and my family, you know what I'm saying. So

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I definitely understand where you're coming from. Them

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bitches got in her head, and I'm gonna call

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them them bitches because they were clearly fucking

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hating with the withoutloquor This is who

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these girls are, you.

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Can literally tell.

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And a lot of people just don't understand

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introverted people, you know what I mean, And a

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lot of people don't understand that sometimes

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like y'all resting bitch face is literally

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y'all face every fucking time, y'all

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around people that y'all don't really know, you

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know what I mean. It had nothing to do with her friends

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being too loud. Yeah, they're too loud

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for you, but it wasn't personal. Everybody's too loud.

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It's a fucking party, and you came to support

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your friend, so I think her taking that

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into account would have been better. Like,

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at least you showed up for me. At least you

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came out. At least you came to me. And

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you don't even do parties, girl, I know you don't do parties,

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but thank you for showing up. Why would

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she even expect you to go to a second

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party with her other loud ass friends.

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Now, no shade to our friends, because I'm telling

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you they tald like my friends all up into the

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park when they were talking shit about you.

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You know what I'm saying, Because my friends don't do that,

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you know, they let whoever be who they

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are.

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You get what I'm saying. So it is what it

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is.

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And I have all types of different friends,

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you know what I'm saying, and different types of family members,

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extroverted, both introverted, you

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know what I mean. So I think

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you should have a conversation with her. I

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think you should call her. Actually, don't even

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respond via text. I think you should call it because

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to be honest, she should have called

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you if she really felt this way

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all that TEXI textie bullshit. Now you

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should call her and be like, hey, look,

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so I can't help but to think that your

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friends got in your head or whatever.

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I mean.

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I know they had a couple of remarks yesterday

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when they heard me tell you that I'm not going to

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the second party, you know, and I heard

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their remarks as well.

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You don't know if you heard them, but they.

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You know, and recite those remarks that you heard,

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like, oh, they asked me what was

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my point in even coming? And I shouldn't

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have came and a band stiff. No, I'm being who

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I am And if you can't take that, that's on you.

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That's why you're not my friends.

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This is my friend, and my friend I

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thought would understand me after

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so many years of us being friends, and you already

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know that I don't even do parties, but I was there to support

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you. I think that's how you have to explain it

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more in depth. Sometimes people need that. She

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may just be feeling away and may need that conversation

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from you. You get what I'm saying, And that

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ain't even to go back and see her other friends straight, but

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just to get y'all on a better record

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than that.

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Because I know how you feeling.

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I know that I hurt your feelings, and I know

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you don't want to jump out there and respond. I can tell

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you love your friend because I would have been jumped

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down her motherfucking throat even her

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being my friend, like I would a bitch. Don't play with me because

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you already know I ain't even that type of girl, Like the type

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of girl I am.

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I wouldn't even have fucking came. But I'm

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here and I love you. You know what I'm saying.

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But I'm very much a little don't want to come to

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shit like that, you know. But my advice for

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you is call your friend, don't text. Things

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can get very lost in translation through text,

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and you are young you said you're twenty three,

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your friends twenty two. Y'all can get

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real reckless over them text messages. My little sister

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is twenty okay, and

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I listen. I know

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when me and her get into it, it'd

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be some things that she'd be saying, and I'd

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be like, oh, like you know, I'd be wanting to say,

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but like my thirty two year old self has

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to always remember, like damn, I was twenty

10:29

as well before, and I was saying

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things that I know I didn't mean just to hurt the other

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person or whatever. But you know, you

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guys are young, and y'all got the rest of your fucking

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lives, and things like this do happen.

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Also, I'm gonna let you know while

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I was just you know.

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My delivery may be a bit negative towards

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the other friends or whatever, but things like this

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do happen.

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So don't throw your friend away. Just

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just talk to her, call and talk to her.

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You don't owe nothing to the other friends, you know what I mean,

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because that's not who your bond is with your bond

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and your loyalty is to your friend. And

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I would just hear her voice and she hear

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yours now if shit don't turn out, she's

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still getting all defensive, meet up with an ass

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and be like, what's up? So no, no,

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no, no no. But then then

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then you hang that shut up and then you see what she's

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saying.

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You know what I mean.

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But if y'all been friends for a long

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time, I think that she will receive it. Well if

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you call her versus you

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know, texting, because you checked on her, you ain't have to wake

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up and check on her ass. You know what

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you did because you're her friend. So

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that's what real friends do. They talk things out,

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keep me updated and let me know.

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I like that little story. That's nice. That's nice.

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But once somebody ain't cheating, getting shot, stabbing

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itself and it's a lot going on. Now,

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we got a commercial, and if you click off of this podcast,

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I swear I'm gonna beat your ass.

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Listen all

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right.

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Next, First of all, I want to start

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by saying, happy Woman's mouth. You are

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definitely a public figure that I'll look up to you. So

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thank you for being you. Oh

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thank you, baby girl.

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I love that.

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Okay, so let's get into it. I've

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been in a relationship with my boyfriend for about

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three years. And I'm ready to take things a little

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further. I've been bringing up the idea

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of us moving in with each other, but he's

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very very short when we talk about it, like

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everything could.

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Be completely fine and we would have.

12:16

A normal conversation, but as soon as I talk

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about it, his whole demeanor changes.

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We've talked about this once before when we

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first started dating, and he did make

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it clear to me that moving in with each other

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is a big commitment, which it really is.

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Girl, But it's been three years now,

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Damn how much longer does he need?

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Exactly?

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It also starts to make me question myself,

12:37

like am I doing everything right? Am I making

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him feel comfortable? Does he even really want to

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move in with me? Is he happy?

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Etc.

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See, that's when our mind started playing games on

12:47

us. When we let these men play games on

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us. Do not do not? I mean

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the mind playing tricks on us when we let these men

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play games with us.

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I was going to drop that conversation.

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For a little while and revisit it another time,

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but I'm tired of not saying him as much as I want to

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see him, and I really feel like it's about

13:03

Tom that I come home to him as

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You're right, Sis.

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You can tell he's.

13:08

Comfortable with the way things are,

13:10

but I'm definitely feeling away, and

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I know he recognizes it. Maybe

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he wants to wait until marriage. Well what

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if there's even someone else? Exactly?

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See your mind raising and everything. That's

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what I hate. I hate when we do this as women. I hate

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when we have to do this because we feel like the guy

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leaves us no other choice. I don't

13:28

want to think like this, but how could I

13:30

not? What is stopping him from moving in with

13:33

me? I feel like he should make his feelings

13:35

more visible when it comes down to that, because

13:37

he can clearly tell how much I'm bothered

13:40

about this. So my question for you

13:42

is, how do you think I should go about our conversation

13:45

the next time I revisit that topic. Do

13:47

you think my approach is wrong? Let

13:49

me know something, Jess girl, No,

13:51

I don't think your approach is wrong. Okay, so

13:53

you're asking me how you

13:55

should approach the conversation this

13:57

time going forward. I honestly but

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like you should start just letting him know

14:02

how bothered you are. I mean, because you say you state

14:05

how he sees it, and

14:07

you state how you know I know he

14:09

recognizes it, but I don't think you ever actually

14:11

communicated with him that it does bother

14:14

you. Okay, So most of the time,

14:16

guys do need to hear it, you

14:18

know what I'm saying to believe it, because I'm

14:20

not gonna I'm not giving them any

14:23

type of excuse or anything. But a lot

14:25

of guys, not all men, but a lot of guys state

14:27

don't pay attention in depth like that to

14:29

know or it may be bothering her to wa

14:31

ain't moving together yet, you know what I'm saying, Because

14:34

you said he's comfortable with the way things are,

14:36

and let's just say there is nobody else. Let's

14:39

just like delete that, subtract

14:41

that from the equation. He feels

14:43

comfortable, So he may

14:45

feel that you're comfortable as well because you

14:47

haven't bought it up again because you're

14:50

letting it, You're letting time go past, hoping

14:52

that one day he just wakes up like, all right, this

14:54

is the day we're gonna move in, or this is the day that I'm

14:56

gonna tell her that we're gonna move in. You get

14:58

what I'm saying, And you can't really do that

15:00

with a man, honey. You we have to voice each

15:02

and every feeling, each and every topic

15:05

that we want to talk about, each and every time

15:07

something bothers us, so they can

15:09

see that. You know, that's also teaching a man how

15:11

to communicate with you, whether you are

15:14

conscious of that or not, that's teaching him.

15:16

Okay, so she's being she gonna come no matter

15:18

what, my baby gonna come to me about whatever.

15:21

So let me do the same.

15:22

Or not even let me do the same, because sometimes

15:24

they don't learn how to reciprocate it, but they

15:27

do learn that you are that type of person,

15:29

so they handle you better going forward.

15:32

You know, according to that, this is how

15:34

I think you should approach it. I'm gonna let you know. I

15:36

think you should start off very honest.

15:38

You should say, babe, Okay, something

15:40

has been bothering me, and I've been wanting to

15:42

have this conversation with you for a few months

15:44

now, or however realistically how long it is.

15:46

Don't make no time up. Tell him the fucking

15:49

truth. It's been bothering me four

15:51

months now. You know, every

15:53

time we visit the conversation of us moving

15:55

in together, you get kind of short and all

15:58

of that.

15:58

Now.

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I know we talked about it before and I just

16:00

kind of like left it alone because I didn't

16:02

want to push you away, And that is the truth. I

16:04

didn't want to push you away. However, it's

16:06

been three years, okay, and you

16:09

seem to be comfortable with the

16:11

way things are now.

16:12

If you are, that's you, but me, I am

16:14

not. I'm not. I feel like now

16:18

I should be coming home to you. I feel like that.

16:20

I don't know if you want to wait till marriage or whatever,

16:23

but I don't feel like we should have to wait until

16:25

marriage to move in.

16:27

You know what I'm saying, Like, I feel like I should be coming home

16:29

to you.

16:30

And if you just don't flat out

16:32

agree with that, if you don't want to move, I think

16:34

that you should be mad enough to tell me. You should

16:36

be at least open and honest

16:39

enough to tell me moving together is not a

16:41

good idea. I don't like that, and

16:43

then try to see why because it may

16:45

be reasons that he don't want to. Maybe he moved

16:47

with someone in the past and it didn't work. Maybe

16:49

you know, it could be all sorts of reasons

16:52

why this man really don't want to move with you.

16:54

You get what I'm saying. And if you can't let it

16:56

hurt you.

16:57

You can't let it get to you because it

16:59

may very well be his truth, but

17:02

we don't know the truth because you haven't sat down with him again

17:04

and told him your whole truth.

17:06

So makers adds tell the truth to you? What is it?

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And you can even tell him. You had me even questioning

17:11

myself like what am I not doing?

17:12

Right?

17:13

Like?

17:13

What is it?

17:13

Do you even want to move in with me? And then the last

17:15

question, the big boom, the big bang

17:18

theory. Is there someone else? I

17:20

hate feeling like this, you know what I mean? And I would

17:22

like for you to answer these questions like are you seeing

17:24

someone else? Are you scared to move with me because you're dealing with somebody

17:27

else? Are you living with somebody else? Like you

17:29

know, I don't know, I don't know, but

17:31

I know that I feel that it's

17:33

time that we come home to each other. And

17:35

that's that, straight up, point

17:38

blank girl. And then you

17:40

will get the reaction problem not I

17:42

mean, I ain't gonna say that you're looking for, but

17:45

you're gonna get a reaction, and you're more than

17:47

likely you're gonna get the truth, you know, because

17:49

when you put everything.

17:50

Out there and you are level with

17:52

the guy.

17:53

You're looking in his eyes and he ain't got nowhere

17:55

to run, he ain't looking at his phone. They

17:57

fill back into a corner, and he will

17:59

more than likely tell you to choose. And the

18:01

reason why I'm saying more than likely because

18:04

less than likely he could lie too, Like you know,

18:06

when gods fell back into a corner, they lie to

18:08

they lie their way out. Oh babe, I was just thinking about

18:10

that, or you know, I don't know. I got

18:12

to take care of my moms, or I don't know. I

18:14

just I have anxiety when it comes

18:16

to moving, you know, because you said, as

18:19

he stated earlier, that's a big commitment.

18:22

And if he's saying he is

18:24

aware of how big

18:26

of a commitment that is, then

18:29

he could get cold feet. You know, he could be nervous,

18:31

he could be scared, he could be that could mean marriage

18:33

for him, like, oh shit, that's kind of like marrying

18:36

somebody. But the fact that you let three years

18:38

go by, he ain't had nothing else

18:40

to do but to get comfortable.

18:41

Boo.

18:42

This is kind of an equal fault,

18:44

you know, if you and him, I do blame

18:46

you because men will only

18:49

do to us what we allow.

18:50

But I love you, so my

18:53

sister looking like, how you gonna just blame her?

18:55

I mean, I'm just saying I do blame

18:58

you a lot because you let a lot of time will pass and

19:00

you ain't even been happy with this

19:02

part of it. You know, we can't keep putting

19:04

ourselves in these miserable situations

19:06

to save a nigga feelings, Okay,

19:09

because relationship is communication

19:14

amongst other things. But communication

19:17

don't hold nothing in. That's why half

19:19

of us be single out here for a while, hurt,

19:22

carrying hate for x'es

19:24

and shit, because we didn't say we didn't

19:26

tell these We didn't have the strength or find the strength

19:29

to tell these men how we felt in

19:31

the moment. That's why you You still

19:34

probably got things that you want to say to your ex

19:36

ten years later. Nah, bit you should have said it.

19:38

And I'll be hard on my women about it because

19:40

it's like, shit, we know damn well, the

19:42

ain't gonna do it, so you do it. Shit,

19:46

Lisa lousn, stop

19:48

playing with your damn self, all right, but keep me updated.

19:51

And just like that, we've come to the end

19:53

of another carefully reckless episode with

19:56

your girl.

19:56

Just hilarious.

19:56

What I'll be doing I'll be fixing mess, and I will be fixing

19:59

mess like I said. Saturday, April twenty

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seventh at Pullman Yards in Atlanta.

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hilarious on the stage. Make sure you come

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and you let me know all your mess. Letter out on the

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20:12

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20:14

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