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Alright, guys. Welcome back to my channel. This is John with Carnivore Backwoods.

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Today's Carnivore Roundtable

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is an exciting one.

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We got a guest speaker

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here, Doctor Tony Hampton.

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We'll go ahead and bring him in here. Let's bring him on stage.

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Doctor Tony Hampton,

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how you doing today sir?

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Man, I'm

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happy to

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be here in the backwoods.

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I, I'm a city boy, so I'm

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not used to the backwoods.

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Although I was visiting Mississippi

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recently, my wife's from Port

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Gibson, Jackson and those spots.

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So maybe you can show me around

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sometime, but life is good, man.

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I'm doing great.

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I want to do it, try to do a

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meetup at some time in this area.

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So maybe we'll get you out here for a

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meetup, do it around the, the Pig and

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Forge Sevierville area or something. Okay.

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So we got a few others on here

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for the round table today.

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Let's go ahead and bring in Brian.

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Wick goes carnivore. How are you doing today, Brian?

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I'm good. How's everybody doing? Doing good, sir.

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Doing good. Doing great. All right.

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And we got JT from the

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Poco Moonshine family.

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What's up

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everybody. What's up carnivores. Hey,

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JT, how are you doing today?

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Man, I'm, I feel like I'm 18, man. I'm on the carnivore diet.

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I'm

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feeling good, man. That's

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it. All right. And last but definitely not least, we got

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Randy here from Ground Beef Guy, making

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up our, the end of our round table here. Glad to have you guys.

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Dr Hampton, I appreciate you coming

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on and being here with us today.

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We're just. Going to talk about some carnivore and

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we'll take, questions from the chat

1:40

and we'll we'll see what's going on. Let's see here All right, guys,

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we've got a few people in here.

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If you got questions for dr Hampton or

1:45

any of us for that matter, make sure

1:49

you put them in there marking them to

1:49

the queue We're going to be looking

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for those I expect that we're going to

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get a decent amount of people in here.

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So make sure you get the cue in front of your questions. So it makes it easy for me to find.

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So Dr. Hampton, what do you have

2:01

been going on this week,

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sir? Life is is pretty busy at clinic.

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I'm definitely one of the few. Influencers who still in clinical

2:09

practice, a lot of them ended

2:13

up going to focus on teaching.

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And we definitely need that because

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there's, you're not going to get a lot

2:21

of this information from the clinic. And so if you have people out there Dr.

2:28

Barry, Dr. Anthony Chafee, Dr.

2:31

Baker, et cetera, doing their

2:31

thing, then what happens is, yeah.

2:35

That information that you can't

2:35

get from your clinical doctor,

2:38

you can get from those guys.

2:40

And then the hope is that you

2:40

can then expose the population.

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You got to go straight to the people

2:46

who are being affected the patient

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and then they can then hopefully,

2:51

from the ground up, it's a ground

2:55

roots effort, then teach their

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doctor things that they may not know.

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And many of the doctors will not be

2:59

familiar with why a carnivore die should

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be on the list of things to consider.

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They just don't know. They haven't heard of the the study

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with 2, 000, even though it was

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observational, 2, 000 carnivores

3:13

that showed everything got better.

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When they did this dietary pattern,

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they won't know that their patients with

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autoimmune disease and neurodegenerative

3:21

diseases and mental health issues

3:26

that they're going to, get better.

3:28

They may not know about the keto

3:28

for refractory mental illness study,

3:33

which is very much similar to kind

3:33

of work and how that just fixed

3:38

all these mental health issues. So I think it's going to take the efforts

3:40

of all of us, which is why I appreciate.

3:45

All of you guys having channels and

3:45

trying to spread this message that you

3:50

can heal and you don't have to live

3:50

with these chronic medical conditions.

3:55

And so that's why this is important. And and I'm going to

3:57

continue to do my piece.

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You guys are going to do your part and

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we're going to bless people with healing.

4:03

I had probably just this past week

4:03

at least five or six stories of.

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A1C is going from 12

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to 5 within 3 4 months.

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The irony is that some of these patients

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are people that I've been seeing for 10

4:25

years and they just had an aha moment.

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And I don't know when that's going to happen. And they said, Doc, this lady

4:30

said to me, she said, I, now

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she, in this case, she did keto. She said, I tried that stupid

4:36

diet you told me about.

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That's what she called it. And that stupid diet I told her

4:40

about took her A1C from 14 to 5.

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So listen, these are not just anecdotal.

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Reports of success. There are so many people like Dr.

4:55

Eric Westman, who has, who's been

4:55

doing this since 2002, who has since

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2002 shown that these dietary patterns

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where you get rid of these carbs these

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plants that are harming you and you go

5:06

to an animal based diet that's better.

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There's so many research studies

5:12

that have been done and the public

5:17

health collaborative when you compare. Low carb to low fat.

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There's no competition. And this is these are

5:25

randomized controlled trials.

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So we're not like living in

5:27

a some bubble of untruth.

5:33

These are This is the science

5:33

and it's really exciting.

5:36

Again, as this community continues to grow

5:36

that although I'm not here to indoctrinate

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anybody to any dietary pattern, my goal

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is to expose people to one that may

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be the one that they've been missing. That's all I'm trying to do.

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And then let human beings, let

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Americans decide what's best for them.

5:54

I don't want to live in a world where We

5:54

tell our babies, like in New York, you

5:59

can't eat meat on Mondays and Fridays.

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I want to live, and I certainly

6:01

wouldn't want to live in a world

6:03

where we tell our babies you can't

6:03

eat plants on Monday and Friday.

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I thought this was America. So I just want to live in a place where

6:08

we give people information and then

6:13

they decide what's best for their body. And the best decision

6:14

maker for that is not Dr.

6:17

Hampton or anybody else. It's what their body tells

6:19

them is the best decision.

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So that's how I see it, man. So I'm excited.

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I'm excited.

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That's awesome. Cause that's exactly, I think we're

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all of us are, we're all just want

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to get the information out there. We want to spread the word, but none

6:32

of us are telling anybody what to do.

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We're just saying, Hey, this

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is what's working for us.

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And let's we'll tell you

6:38

what we got going on.

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You can do it for yourself. You can see how it works for yourself.

6:44

And and then you can make

6:44

a decision from there.

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That's how I started. I think that's how all

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these other guys started. So yeah that's the great message, sir.

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Now, for

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each of you guys how much, I'm

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assuming there was weight loss. Was it the weight loss that really

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was the biggest thing that, how much

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success have you guys seen doing this? All right, Brian,

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you want to start with that?

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Sure.

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So weight loss really has been

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secondary for me, but I did need to

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lose a lot of weight, a lot of body

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fat and I still have more to lose.

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I've lost

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80 pounds. And,

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Really for me again, that, that

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was secondary to a lot of health things.

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I

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had a fib that I

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would have a couple episodes a week.

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I have.

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Been on carnivore fever

7:25

just over 15 months and I have not

7:28

had an episode in over 14 months.

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So that was the huge thing for me.

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That was pretty much healed. Blood pressure was lowered.

7:37

I have more energy. I got rid of joint pain.

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I

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got rid

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of arthritis, back pain,

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just so many different health related

7:45

ailments that are now gone. Let me comment real quick, john.

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That a fib is one thing I learned

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before I even knew a lot about

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I, I became board

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certified obesity medicine.

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And during that training, we learned

8:01

that if your BMI is 25, your risk

8:07

for a fib is like baseline, right?

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And for every BMI over 25.

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Your risk goes up 4%. So I'm not sure what your BMI was,

8:16

but imagine your BMI was 40, right?

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15 times 4. 60 percent increased risk for

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AFib just by being overweight.

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And all the inflammation that

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comes from the fat cells when

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you then lose that weight. I have seen in clinical practice

8:35

exactly what you've seen, which

8:39

is the a fifth kind of goes away.

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So instead of relying on a beta blocker.

8:45

or some type of, and sometimes you

8:45

need a beta blocker temporarily.

8:49

Sometimes you even need a procedure, but

8:49

why not just get rid of the root cause?

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And that's what's so beautiful about

8:55

this approach is that you get to the

8:58

root cause and things get better.

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And I'm not surprised about your arthritis

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with your back and your energy level, your

9:04

blood pressure, it's all the same disease. So appreciate that.

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All right, JT, you want to go? Yeah,

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sure. For me the weight loss,

9:13

although it was nice it was

9:17

secondary, what Brian was saying. For me, I had terrible IBS and

9:19

I, my gut always felt like crap.

9:25

It just. I just never felt good.

9:27

And I think too I smoked a lot of

9:27

cannabis and people are telling me that

9:32

a lot of the throwing up could have

9:32

been from too much cannabis or a mixture

9:36

of both IBS and too much cannabis,

9:36

but the smoking and the drinking.

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Led me to have a terrible sleep apnea.

9:45

And I don't suggest this to anybody. I was a complete dumb ass and

9:47

I did not get the machine.

9:50

I refused to get it. And it almost killed me.

9:53

I literally had an attitude

9:53

that I'd rather die.

9:55

And I did almost, I had

9:55

three moments where.

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The sleep apnea almost got me. I just would wake up out of a dead

10:00

sleep and my, I don't know if something

10:04

was blocked or my lungs were just not

10:04

awake and moving, but I couldn't get

10:09

air for about 20 minutes, a little bit.

10:12

It was the air I could get was, and it

10:12

was the longest 20 minutes of my life, Dr.

10:17

Hampton. And so for me, I said, man, I want to get.

10:21

I had to lay in the tub a lot too to

10:21

relax my back would hurt from an accident.

10:25

I have three discs in my back. They're out of alignment. So my bottom of my back is like

10:27

an upside down question mark.

10:31

And so I said, man, I was

10:31

always laying in the tub.

10:34

I said, I got the, I saw

10:34

Carrie from homestead.

10:37

How just jumping around his

10:37

homestead and he was just yeah.

10:42

Not like that. I was a homestead house subscriber.

10:44

So I was like, man, I want

10:44

what this guy's got, man.

10:48

What is he on? So I said, I'm going to do what this

10:49

crazy guy says, and I'm going to do it.

10:52

I know I suggest people do the research.

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I didn't do the research, but

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I cannonballed right into it.

10:57

And my back feels amazing.

11:00

I have no more IBS problems

11:00

and the sleep apnea is gone.

11:03

I don't go to bed in fear that when I

11:03

say goodnight to my wife, that might be

11:07

the last time I speak to her again, I

11:07

was always so afraid to go to bed because

11:12

I was like, man, I'm alive right now. I just don't know if I go to sleep.

11:16

If I'm going to. Be alive again.

11:18

So for me it was the

11:18

sleep apnea and it's gone.

11:21

So I am so thankful for Carrie sharing

11:21

his story and that's why I wanted

11:25

us to keep sharing our stories. 'cause it's gonna help somebody,

11:26

it's gonna save a life.

11:29

And I appreciate Carrie

11:29

because he's been a great like connector.

11:34

A lot of the content I've seen

11:34

of you guys was because of him.

11:38

And it's everybody's that's

11:38

why I'm here today because we

11:41

all have to help each other. So for those who are watching, if

11:42

you're not familiar with the others,

11:47

subscribe to their channels and that

11:47

way you can hear a different spin on

11:51

how they approach what they're doing.

11:53

And I will say that IBS is my story and

11:53

that's why I decided to take this journey.

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It was initially my wife and her. Diabetes.

12:03

Unfortunately, it was type one,

12:03

but she has, very good control.

12:06

And listen I learned when I was in my

12:06

functional medicine training, because

12:11

I have a master's in nutrition and

12:11

functional medicine that those you

12:14

know, that, that microbiome in the And

12:14

the fiber that feeds the microbiome

12:19

is why the conventional folk think

12:19

that you need to eat fiber because

12:24

you got to feed your microbiome. And then that microbiome is then gonna

12:26

ultimately lead to small chain fatty acids

12:31

that will then protect your the lining,

12:31

those tight junctions in your intestine.

12:35

And so we won't have

12:35

the probiotics, right?

12:38

And that's a, and we'll let them have

12:38

that approach because when I took

12:42

probiotics, they did help, but what they

12:42

don't talk about is, beta hydroxybutyrate

12:46

is a small chain fatty acid. And when you eat the way we eat, we get

12:48

our small chain fatty acids from that.

12:53

And that protects our gut. So this idea that the microbiome has

12:54

to be varied and it has to look like

13:00

it does for a person on a high fiber

13:00

diet is a farce because ultimately our

13:05

microbiome is different, but it serves us.

13:08

And it's and that's why when, as the

13:08

Sean Bakers of the world get research

13:13

out there, then we'll be able to say for

13:13

a carnivore, what's a healthy microbiome

13:18

for a ketovar for a person that's low carb

13:18

for a person that's on the Mediterranean.

13:21

It may vary and we can't. It's not one size fits all.

13:25

But what we do know is that when we change

13:25

our diet and if I eat this way, I don't

13:31

need a probiotic because my gut is just

13:31

happy And so that's how I approach it.

13:36

And that's why I'm having

13:36

the exact same experience.

13:39

And one thing about the cannabis,

13:39

again, I like whatever works for people.

13:42

And I have patients who are on cannabis. I'm in Illinois and it's, it's

13:44

something medicinal and recreational.

13:48

I ain't got no problem with that

13:48

but I always tell people just like

13:52

a medicine, a supplement is also.

13:56

It's more natural. It's more holistic, but it is

13:56

a something that you maybe you

14:01

could achieve with your diet. So if you need that, having done

14:02

kind of work, Ketopor, that's fine.

14:07

But you may find you don't need it. So I just think you do what works for you.

14:11

And I would never demonize a

14:11

person who's in pain and they're

14:15

benefiting from cannabis. That was crazy, but I want to make

14:16

sure they understand their diet could

14:19

have probably done the same thing.

14:22

Yeah. For me, I quit 27 days in, I literally

14:22

was getting more high off the ribeyes

14:26

than the cannabis I was smoking. Why am I

14:28

even? No, really, I literally

14:30

get such a rush off the ribeyes.

14:32

I just was like, I don't need pot no more.

14:34

I'm

14:34

getting high off steak. I can't hang with you

14:36

where I grew up, man. You gotta smoke a little weed.

14:40

I did do a lot of that. I

14:41

was in the music business. I made beats for

14:43

Tech N9ne and all sorts of stuff. I've done a lot.

14:48

Well, Randy, what do

14:48

you, what brought you here?

14:52

Yeah, let me let me throw a few

14:52

things out with the good doctor here.

14:56

Back in 2013, I found

14:56

myself At 479 pounds.

15:02

This is 10 years ago. I went in and had the vertical

15:04

sleeve gastrectomy VSG.

15:10

In about a year's time, I

15:10

lost about a hundred pounds.

15:12

So 379 was the lowest I got as a

15:12

result of having the sleeve done.

15:18

Then I started to gain back, got

15:18

back up to it's hovered in the four

15:22

twenties, four thirties for the last

15:22

eight or nine years I've seen, I've

15:28

been following the carnivore, probably.

15:32

I would say when Dr. Mary had less than a thousand

15:33

subscribers, I was, for some reason,

15:37

I got in way back then and I've been

15:37

watching it and intentional carnivore,

15:42

Sean is the guy that kind of. He really inspired me

15:45

to really dive into it.

15:49

So I've been a carnivore now

15:49

when I started at the beginning

15:53

of the year, I was 434 pounds.

15:56

And the beginning of this year

15:56

teeter a little bit fell off.

16:01

I just yo yoed some, but I, and I only

16:01

did 30 days and had a 50th birthday.

16:10

I use that as an excuse to fall off,

16:10

but Back in June 3rd, I'm, I started

16:16

on it and I've been on it since then. I'm 134 days in now and I'm lower than

16:17

I was when I had that sleeve done.

16:24

So I'm about 60 pounds down, but

16:24

I'm going to weigh in this week.

16:28

I weigh in once a month. So I'm expecting to be about

16:30

70 pounds down as of my way

16:34

in, in about 135 days or so.

16:38

One of the, one of the questions I

16:38

wanted to ask doctor is That vertical

16:43

sleeve,

16:45

Does it, obviously the time

16:45

has passed now is there anything

16:50

that it affects me health wise now?

16:52

I can, I don't think I could eat what I

16:52

could eat prior to that, but I can now

16:57

10 years later, I can eat pretty good. I could, I can put it down.

17:00

I don't think I could eat 2 or

17:00

3 pounds of rib eye steak in 1

17:04

setting like some people, but. Just wondering what are some

17:06

of your thoughts on that? The other I have that question

17:08

that I wanted to ask a little bit

17:11

about fasting about glucose levels

17:14

and stuff like that.

17:16

Yeah. And when I got my training in obesity

17:17

medicine it's still very and Dr Eric

17:24

Westman, he used to be the president of

17:24

the organization, Obesity Association.

17:28

So he'll, he would say they're still,

17:28

they tend to still be medicine centric.

17:33

They tend to be more surgery centric

17:33

than we are with our lifestyle.

17:37

So that's number one. Even though they understand my

17:38

the sense I got from my training

17:42

was that low carb keto or all

17:42

of those things were, effective.

17:47

They couldn't argue with that. There was still some concern back in the

17:48

past that saturated fat was an issue, et

17:53

cetera, but for the most part they get it. Now the gastric sleeve itself,

17:55

when people have that surgery it is

18:01

safer than the gastric bypass where

18:01

you're really rearranging things.

18:05

And with the sleeve, you're just

18:05

literally turning your stomach

18:08

into a banana, essentially. And when they do that, they take the part

18:10

of the stomach the curve, that large curve

18:16

part that also houses the hormone ghrelin.

18:19

And as many people have heard,

18:19

that's the hunger hormone.

18:22

So one of the advantages of this surgery

18:22

is that you immediately start to not

18:28

be as hungry for most people because

18:28

the hunger hormone, most of the things

18:32

that signal that have been removed. In terms of when you have the

18:35

surgery in the beginning as a doctor.

18:39

I worry about obviously surgeries,

18:39

risk of clots and things like that

18:44

risk of malnutrition, because that's

18:44

why you have to take the supplements.

18:48

Your absorptive capacity is, has

18:48

been cut down because you don't

18:53

have as much surface area to absorb. So you have to really make sure

18:55

you get nutrients and who knows

18:58

what's the best source of high

18:58

quality food, probably protein,

19:02

beef and liver and things like that. There's risk for vomiting and

19:04

nausea and bleeding, obviously, if

19:08

things don't come together well. So those are the things we worry about.

19:12

But in terms of long term, I think

19:12

your stomach will probably do some

19:16

stretching ultimately, so it will probably

19:16

get a little bit bigger over time.

19:21

And I think that'll allow you to then,

19:21

consume more of the things you'd like.

19:26

So when you're trying to eat that

19:26

ribeye and I think you, you have

19:29

to be more aware of deficiency.

19:32

So you're in, I'm sure they're

19:32

doing that with your team.

19:35

They may be checking, your B vitamins.

19:38

zinc levels and magnesium

19:38

and things like that.

19:40

So I think from that

19:40

perspective, there's an issue.

19:44

But other than that, I wouldn't

19:44

leave this conversation

19:48

thinking you should worry much.

19:50

I think you'll do really well. And I think for people broader,

19:52

I think the message that you're

19:56

sharing that I'm hearing is If I

19:56

have a surgical intervention, it will

20:02

work, but it won't work long term.

20:05

If you don't make dietary

20:05

changes, it just won't.

20:08

And that's why, I don't know, a large

20:08

percentage of people, first of all, one

20:13

out of three people who have surgery

20:13

like this will have repeat surgery.

20:16

And thankfully it didn't sound

20:16

like you had repeat surgery.

20:18

So you're okay in that. But one out of three, that's my repeat.

20:24

That's right. So I think You always try diet first, and

20:24

it's okay to try this, particularly when

20:30

your BMI has gotten to where yours got.

20:32

But the key is, if you then, so most

20:32

people who do surgery a gastric band,

20:38

sleeve, gastric bypass, any of those

20:38

surgeries should always be thinking, I

20:43

need to do some type of dietary pattern.

20:45

Now we also know, even world news

20:45

and report will say the best diet

20:49

for weight loss is still keto. They may prefer the Mediterranean overall

20:51

because they don't understand that.

20:55

Keto is not harmful. But this is the best diet for weight loss.

20:58

So if you're trying to maintain

20:58

weight loss, I don't care if you

21:00

had gastric sleeve or if you had, if

21:00

you're on ozempic or Wegovy, right?

21:05

And I'll say Wegovy because Wegovy and

21:05

Saxenda are the ones that are really for

21:09

weight loss and others are for diabetes. If you're on those drugs, you will

21:11

regain the weight back when you stop.

21:14

80 percent do. So the goal is you need to

21:15

incorporate a diet change while

21:19

you're making those changes. But in terms of you worried

21:20

about that that you went through.

21:23

That's fine. I think I would not. And also would give yourself grace.

21:27

Like at the time, that was the option that

21:27

seemed to make the most sense for you.

21:31

And that's why we don't want

21:31

to demonize surgery or drugs.

21:36

But what we don't want to do is

21:36

not support people, which is why

21:40

this community is so important. We need to support people

21:42

when they're making changes.

21:45

Cause you're going to look like

21:45

a unicorn in most settings.

21:48

They're going to look at you like you're nuts. And they're going to look at

21:50

you like you're causing harm.

21:53

So what you do is you have

21:53

communities like this.

21:55

I hang with the steak and

21:55

butter gang as well with Bella.

21:59

And you give people the type

21:59

of okay, I have permission.

22:05

Like literally I think Dr.

22:08

Kimberry gave me permission. I know you've been following

22:11

him a lot longer than me.

22:13

But when I saw somebody I respected

22:13

doing something, I said, you know what?

22:17

And Dr. Anthony Chafe, he looked

22:18

like he's pretty healthy.

22:20

So does Sean Baker, right? Although Dr.

22:23

Paul Saladino is doing some plant

22:23

stuff, he still looks pretty

22:27

healthy on this carnivore thing. So when they gave me permission,

22:28

I said, you know what?

22:31

I'm going to do my experiment

22:31

as they would suggest.

22:34

Let's try it. And I think, so I think

22:34

you're on the right path. And I would not be worried about anything.

22:39

I would follow labs and things like

22:39

that just to keep the conventional

22:42

docs happy, but other than the LDL and

22:42

total cholesterol, you're probably so

22:47

you don't think that 10 years post

22:47

op that the fact that I've had that would

22:52

would slow my weight loss in any way,

22:52

because I hate to, people may jump on you

22:57

if you compare yourself to other people,

22:57

but then, when I look at Sean, 200, Yeah.

23:02

247 pounds in a year.

23:05

And I was at 434 pounds at

23:05

the beginning of the year.

23:08

I was hoping to, I was wanting to drop

23:08

200 pounds in a year or two would be nice,

23:12

There's other factors, right? So when we think, when you look at a

23:14

lab and a test tube, that's one thing.

23:20

When you look at a human being,

23:20

we're very complex, right?

23:23

And there, there are so many

23:23

reasons why one person moves in

23:28

one direction versus another. For Dr.

23:31

Paul Saladino and Dr. Sean Baker, and not so much with Dr.

23:36

Anthony Chafee because he says

23:36

he's too busy to exercise, right?

23:39

But those guys are, Dr. Sean Baker is a pretty intense exerciser.

23:43

Now, I exercise twice a week. That's it.

23:46

And I and guess what? I'll never look like Anthony Chafee

23:48

because I am not probably going

23:51

to do more than twice a week, at

23:51

least at this stage, because I'm

23:54

busy and it's just not my thing. I want to be healthy.

23:56

I've never had a weight problem, just FYI. So I just think that plus are

23:59

there other factors in your life?

24:04

One could just be that you were

24:04

more insulin resistant, like you

24:08

could be at the exact same weight. I don't think that a sumo wrestler is

24:10

as insulin resistant as another person

24:15

who weighs the same thing, right? Partly because of what they're doing

24:17

exercise wise, but there's other factors.

24:21

So that's kind of part of the story. And there's other things

24:23

that should be factored in.

24:26

Like when I think about my protecting your nest. and model talks about stress, the

24:29

S's, sleep how we think fasting.

24:36

Some people are just fasters. They're just doing one meal a day

24:38

and that person will probably lose

24:42

weight faster than the other person. My rope and my acronym

24:44

talks about relationships.

24:47

If I come home, my wife's working today.

24:50

If my wife, that's why I'm with you

24:50

guys, because she gave me permission.

24:54

I'm just throwing that out. I've been married 30 years, but

24:55

what happens is if I'm in a healthy

25:00

relationship, that'll help me. That'll support me.

25:03

So there's, so you want to start to look

25:03

at your total life and say, what else?

25:07

Have I optimized sleep yet? And if not, is there something I

25:09

can do to optimize my sleep when

25:12

I'm in a stressful situation? Do I manage it?

25:14

Because if I don't, I'm going

25:14

to have that cortisol spike.

25:18

And then in that moment, I may then make

25:18

glucose through that gluconeogenesis

25:23

pathway we're familiar with. And all of a sudden I got extra

25:24

sugar floating around that

25:27

will then sabotage my success. So So if you're making incremental

25:29

improvements and you're noticing things

25:36

that maybe you are not seeing on the

25:36

scale, rather it's your buckle size.

25:44

energy your ability to focus

25:44

and concentrate better.

25:49

You're noticing that your metabolic

25:49

markers are getting better.

25:52

You may want to, you have a target in

25:52

your mind that you've set in terms of

25:57

where you're trying to go with this. You may want to shift it

25:59

periodically and say I see.

26:02

I hadn't even thought about my

26:02

headaches are gone or my stomach is

26:05

less irritable like me and JT, right?

26:08

And if you start to see those things,

26:08

Those are part of how you evaluate

26:12

your success and I, and you're a guy,

26:12

listen, we're all about listen we're very

26:17

aggressive about, most, some of us were

26:17

athletes and we're just like, hey, let's

26:20

get there, but I would just, as long as

26:20

you're seeing that incremental improvement

26:25

while you're also problem solving to

26:25

see what the barriers are, I think

26:29

that'll be the way I would approach it. But I think, man, when you're comparing

26:31

yourself to these, You could argue Dr.

26:35

Sean Baker and people like

26:35

him are like outliers, right?

26:39

Some, even though Deion Sanders

26:39

didn't win this weekend, which

26:42

we thought he would, right? Against Stanford, he's an outlier, man.

26:45

He's a unicorn. He's... If you compare yourself to

26:47

him that's a tough one, right?

26:51

So that's why, that's how we keep a

26:51

reasonable head when it comes to this.

26:54

All

26:57

That's good stuff. I I came to Carnivore...

27:02

Unintentionally, I was searching

27:02

the internet looking for something

27:04

else related to my gardening

27:04

and I end up hearing a story.

27:09

From another YouTuber who was, had

27:09

guarding site who started talking

27:13

about her health journey and how

27:13

she had improved on carnivore.

27:17

And I had been dealing with high

27:17

blood pressure, high cholesterol,

27:21

high blood pressure, diabetes.

27:24

And I had a really bad episodes of a

27:24

hemorrhoid that it really caused me some

27:30

issues and I knew I needed to lose weight. So my initial drive was.

27:34

I'm going to lose some weight and I

27:34

wasn't really too concerned with the

27:37

health at that point because I've

27:37

done the weight loss off and on thing

27:41

and you know it never really improved

27:41

much on my health wise but trying to

27:44

get my weight down was my main focus.

27:47

And so that's when I started carnivore. That was back in March 1st.

27:51

As of today I've lost just shy, I'm

27:51

just Within a couple points here of

27:55

hitting 80 pounds of weight loss.

27:58

I'm no longer diabetic. I've taken my A1C from 7.

28:02

1 down to 5. 7 in my last test.

28:05

I'm off my metformin, I'm off 90

28:05

percent of my blood pressure medication.

28:10

I'm pushing closer to coming off my

28:10

blood pressure medication altogether.

28:14

My blood pressure is averaging

28:14

right now about 120 over 80.

28:18

I think it was 120 over 75 actually.

28:21

But so things are looking

28:21

good and I feel amazing.

28:24

My, I don't have the aches, the pains,

28:24

I thought I was getting old, you start

28:28

pushing 50 and everybody just makes you

28:28

convinced that you're, that, all these

28:31

things are just part of getting old. All that went away on the carnivore diet.

28:34

I don't have all those aging

28:34

pains as they would refer to it.

28:38

I benefited by the health that initially

28:38

I came in for weight loss, but then

28:44

after I was in it for, I don't know,

28:44

three, four weeks, I was like, heck,

28:48

I don't care if I lose another pound

28:48

as long as I can feel this way.

28:51

I only care about the

28:51

weight loss at this point.

28:53

I'm just, I'm the health

28:53

improvements were amazing.

28:57

Nice.

28:58

I think John to

28:58

just add context to your comments.

29:03

And I see the one of the questions

29:03

and I think we'll answer that

29:08

question while I'm commenting. It says, have you seen

29:09

results with other diseases?

29:13

So thank you. D. C. Learning to live.

29:16

I love that. So let's comment. He had blood cancer,

29:20

by the way. Oh, really? Yeah, and he was homeless with cancer

29:22

when he got carnivore, so he's killing

29:26

it. Man and again, guys, carnivore is

29:27

a keto diet and keto for cancer.

29:32

I did a, for those who are interested

29:32

in more on cancer, I did a Dr.

29:40

I think Mercer, Dr.

29:42

Mercer and I did a podcast and we talked

29:42

about what's the best supplements.

29:47

Now, of course, some of these

29:47

supplements are plants, but what does

29:50

the evidence show for what helps cancer

29:50

both for prevention and treatment?

29:55

So if people search my name in cancer,

29:55

I think it was like within the last

29:59

couple of months, I did a class

29:59

with the doctor whose organization.

30:04

Put a monograph together with all

30:04

the supplements that are helpful.

30:08

For example, for prevention, if

30:08

I can recall, it included omega

30:12

3, vitamin D green tea extract.

30:18

It did have one medicine,

30:18

which was metformin.

30:21

I'm not a big medicine guy,

30:21

but and it had one other that

30:25

were all related to prevention. Then it had 10 things to deal with

30:27

when it comes to treatment of cancer.

30:31

But number one on the list was carb

30:31

restriction because cancer cells.

30:37

Love. Sugar is their primary fuel.

30:39

It's called the Warburg effect. So people on the irony, you eat

30:41

all this meat, it's supposed

30:45

to reduce your risk for cancer. It doesn't make sense, but the

30:46

evidence suggests that's what happened.

30:49

So if anybody that has someone in their

30:49

family who has cancer, who is concerned

30:54

about cancer because it's in the

30:54

family, that would be a good episode.

30:57

And then I would take that

30:57

list and start to incorporate

31:00

those things into your diet.

31:02

Now, when it comes to it. John's comments about blood pressure.

31:06

The reason why I want to use as a great

31:06

example for all diseases is because when

31:11

you have three things, your genetics,

31:11

you can't change your mama and your dad.

31:18

High dose insulin or too many carbs.

31:22

Those are three risk factors

31:22

which will then increase insulin.

31:27

There's others put, stress,

31:27

sleep and things like that.

31:30

Now, if you increase insulin,

31:30

you in a hyper insulin state.

31:35

And I want you guys to think about this

31:35

in the context of your blood vessels.

31:38

There are various things that will happen. Number one, you will become insulin

31:40

resistant because of all that insulin.

31:45

And when you become insulin

31:45

resistant, you're gonna reduce

31:48

the production of nitric oxide. And most of us know nitric glycine

31:50

is what opens your arteries.

31:53

So you're gonna have arterial constriction. You're gonna have an influx of

31:56

calcium because of hyperinsulinemia.

32:00

That influx of calcium will

32:00

then lead to basal constriction.

32:05

So now you have blood vessels are

32:05

constricted by two mechanisms, not to

32:09

mention the stress and inflammation

32:09

from other causes in your life.

32:13

You also have, as we know, when you

32:13

start carnivore, keto etcetera, you're

32:17

gonna have Diuresis, you're going

32:17

to lose fluid and electrolytes but

32:21

when you're eating carbs and have

32:21

hyperinsulinemia, you increase the

32:25

absorption of salt and water, and guess

32:25

what that does to your blood pressure?

32:30

It'll increase, and when people think

32:30

about keto flu, they should immediately

32:34

understand people get keto flu is because

32:34

your body is so used to having the salt

32:40

coming into your body because of the

32:40

carbs, and you literally start to get

32:44

rid of the salt, and of course, your

32:44

blood pressure is going to go down.

32:46

That's a good side effect. The key is to reduce your

32:48

medicines while that's happening.

32:51

And the last thing I want to mention

32:51

about hyperinsulinemia is the macrophages

32:56

and the inflammation that, that occurs.

32:59

That's going to then cause

32:59

problems with your arteries.

33:03

And all of this leads to hypertension,

33:03

damage to your blood vessels, and

33:07

ultimately cardiovascular disease,

33:07

which is the number one killer.

33:11

But the key question is what I've

33:11

been sharing with my patients lately.

33:15

I wonder how many places in your

33:15

body you have blood vessels.

33:20

This is one of those moments right now.

33:24

We all know that the blood

33:24

vessels are everywhere.

33:28

So the question from DC

33:28

learning was I wonder if this

33:33

is gonna help other diseases.

33:35

And the answer is, so if I had John to

33:35

pull up metabolic syndrome, and we've all

33:39

seen that that image of a guy with a big

33:39

belly in those medical conditions, right?

33:44

And on that image, you'll see high

33:44

blood pressure, you'll see diabetes,

33:47

you'll see your lipids being up,

33:47

you'll see dementia, which is called

33:51

type 3 diabetes, you'll see cancer,

33:51

you'll see cardiovascular disease.

33:56

And honestly, they need

33:56

to make a new image.

33:59

We need to come up with a new image

33:59

with, because there's about 30 plus

34:01

diseases that are on that list. Polycystic ovarian disease.

34:06

uterine cancer. So if you are a person who goes to

34:07

Vegas and you're like, you know what?

34:14

I got one roll of the dice. That's all I got, right?

34:17

If I got one roll of the dice,

34:17

I would focus on reducing your

34:24

risk for hyperinsulinemia.

34:26

The best way to do that is to

34:26

reduce the carbs in your diet.

34:30

And the most effective elimination

34:30

diet of carbs is carnivore.

34:35

Now, if you don't land at

34:35

carnivore like we have, we're not

34:39

gonna kick you out of the club. We didn't kick, some of us

34:41

have, but I have not kicked Dr.

34:44

Paul Saladino out of the club. But what I've done is he decided that a

34:46

little honey and fruit's okay for him.

34:52

My wife's got type 1 diabetes.

34:54

I would dare give her honey or I

34:54

guarantee if I give her a ba, a banana,

35:00

which is seven tea bottles of sugar,

35:00

guess what her sugar's gonna do?

35:03

It's gonna spike. So in our household, we're not

35:04

doing that in his household.

35:08

Mr. Perfect body exercise guy that may work

35:08

for him and his family, and that's okay.

35:14

And I got nothing but love for him. But what I'm saying is you

35:16

have to individualize it.

35:20

If you're a person with metabolic disease

35:20

or diabetes, it's probably gonna, you're

35:26

gonna be pushing your envelope and.

35:29

Now, if you do that experiment, because

35:29

you become metabolically healthy, and

35:32

you've been that way for a year, and you,

35:32

your body tends to tolerate more, that's

35:37

okay, but my experience has been, it's

35:37

not gonna, it's not gonna tolerate it.

35:41

You can try it, but more than

35:41

but, and who knows, a lot of

35:45

times it's, what's the best? Decision maker for you.

35:49

If you're a person with diabetes

35:49

since the meter and it's the

35:52

continuous glucose monitor. So if you eat something and you get a

35:53

spike, then you need to stop eating that.

36:00

And what we do know is that although

36:00

protein will increase your sugar a

36:03

little bit, it's nothing compared

36:03

to carbs and more than likely your

36:07

body can manage that quite well. So I think to answer that question, yeah.

36:12

It helps with most diseases.

36:14

The most effective, of course,

36:14

is mental health, autoimmune

36:19

neurodegenerative diseases. Obviously, epilepsy would be an example.

36:24

And I would say metabolic diseases

36:24

in general, but the first three

36:27

are the ones where if you have an

36:27

autoimmune disease, and I would argue

36:31

IBS is probably one that me and JDT

36:31

suffers from It's a game changer.

36:36

And I know you can testify to this, JT.

36:38

When you get your belly

36:38

back, Lord have mercy.

36:42

When you don't feel it no more. You don't know it exists.

36:45

That's the best part, man. I've heard

36:48

you say that before, man. Yeah.

36:50

Yeah. And when you don't feel it, you

36:50

just, you don't know how good

36:53

it feels to not feel something.

36:55

You don't. I just did.

36:58

That reminds me, you cut your hand and

36:58

you wanted to help people not feel pain.

37:02

You

37:02

remember that? Yes. That's right. Yeah. That's, and that's it.

37:05

Like when I had my little, and I

37:05

appreciate that it's hard to see, but

37:09

if you, it's a little slither there.

37:11

Thank God for that cut, man. Cause it led towards all the difference.

37:15

And I told my mom as they were putting

37:15

that medicine in my hand, how did, how can

37:20

I not feel this person doing this stitch?

37:23

And the doctor says to Matt,

37:23

I said, I want to be a doctor.

37:26

I want to be like you. I want to be able to

37:27

take people out of pain.

37:29

And I didn't know that this knowledge

37:29

would then take me out of pain.

37:33

I did not know that my, my wife's sugars,

37:33

instead of doing this and being more

37:38

level would be helpful for not just

37:38

my wife, but my relationship with her.

37:43

Because what kind of person. It's going to be a great spouse

37:45

if their sugar is doing that.

37:48

How is that going to affect their

37:48

mood and their, ability to be calm?

37:51

And when she talks to her kids and

37:51

how, so everything gets better.

37:56

When I'm standing at, Keto Palooza

37:56

or Keto Orlando, my mental clarity

38:01

is there because I eat this way and

38:01

I'm not freaking out because and

38:04

I'm not thinking about food because

38:04

we don't get hungry like that.

38:08

People don't believe it. They don't believe that

38:09

we don't get hungry. But we just don't.

38:13

Like we, we eat sometime we eat,

38:13

we have to eat, but we don't sit

38:16

around thinking about food all day.

38:19

Dr. Hampton, I had a quick question talking

38:20

about glucose and and that kind of thing.

38:24

Is there an optimal number?

38:29

That does it vary among

38:29

individuals for weight loss?

38:33

Does that make sense? Yeah

38:35

yeah, I think you have to be again. That's why we need the research, right?

38:38

Because what's the optimal a 1 C, right?

38:43

And when my, when I was keto,

38:43

my a 1 C was more like 5.

38:48

1. It's more like. 5.

38:50

5 on carnivore. Isn't that weird?

38:53

So I have seen that carnivores

38:53

tend to have a slightly higher

38:56

A1C, maybe because of the protein.

38:59

Who knows? The question is that a problem?

39:01

And the answer is probably not. Because when you look at the

39:03

other, because we're going to

39:06

measure other things, right? We're going to look at the, to be

39:08

fancy, April, Protein B to a ratio.

39:13

That's a great risk for

39:13

heart disease measurement.

39:16

We're gonna look at the

39:16

triglycerides to HDL ratio.

39:22

We're gonna look at the C peptide.

39:24

We're gonna look at the

39:24

homocysteine and the C reactor

39:28

protein and LDL particle sizes.

39:31

And so the more you look at

39:31

those measurements, you're fine.

39:34

So first, the first answer to

39:34

this question is don't just

39:37

focus on one measurement. That, that's going down a rabbit

39:39

hole that's going to freak you out.

39:43

Definitely don't focus on the

39:43

LDL and the total cholesterol.

39:46

That's why you want to do particle sizes

39:46

to at least see if they're small or large.

39:49

And if they're small, more concerned,

39:49

if they're large, less concerned.

39:54

And. So I wouldn't be surprised.

39:57

I expect, I don't expect your A1C to be 6.

40:00

2, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's 5.

40:04

6 or 5. 7 or 5, and that's okay because, are

40:04

we like machines or are we humans?

40:10

So do we have to be at such a

40:10

narrow, perfect range to be healthy?

40:14

And the answer is no. You're going to look again at

40:15

the totality of how you're doing.

40:18

Are you healthier? 100 pounds lighter than you were?

40:21

And the answer is of course. Thanks. So if somebody stands before you and

40:23

says, Oh, you're, you see that kind

40:26

of word I raise your a one C just a

40:26

little bit or your LDL is higher and

40:30

then everything else is better than

40:30

I would argue that they, it's nuance.

40:33

It's even when you talk about

40:33

things we shouldn't talk about,

40:36

like the war and politics is nuance.

40:38

We don't talk. We have these extreme views,

40:39

but we don't talk about nuance.

40:42

And if we started talking about

40:42

nuance, Then we'll be able to say,

40:45

huh, hadn't thought about that. That makes sense.

40:48

So for you they say your fasting

40:48

should be between 70 and 100, right?

40:53

And I anticipated probably will be, but

40:53

if it's like 105, should I get nervous?

40:58

The answer is no. I just think that's worried about

40:59

something you shouldn't be worried about.

41:02

And again, this is in the context

41:02

of knowing we don't have the

41:06

data for the carnivore diet yet.

41:09

We just have observational studies. In five years, my hope is that the money

41:11

Sean Baker has raised and others, and

41:16

there will be others, because even Dr. Georgia Eat, who did the keto for

41:17

refractory mental illness, who was at

41:22

Harvard, who's now a psychiatrist you,

41:22

many of you know her those types of

41:27

folk are going to be doing research

41:27

studies, and as we do more studies,

41:31

we'll be able to prove and feel better.

41:36

But even when those studies

41:36

are done, you're still going

41:39

to be your own litmus test.

41:43

You're still going to use your

41:43

experience as the number one determinant

41:47

of what you should do because these

41:47

are studies using people, some

41:53

of whom are different than you. And there are people, and we already

41:56

know from studies that if you're too

42:02

thin, you have a higher mortality rate.

42:04

So what's the ideal? body weight for you.

42:08

And the answer is, I don't think we

42:08

really know, but what we do know is

42:11

if all those things that we worry

42:11

about improve, then that's probably

42:15

the ideal body weight for you.

42:21

Good stuff. Good stuff. So we've made it all the way around here.

42:24

I got some highlighted comments that

42:24

I'm going to go through here and make

42:27

sure it gives you more questions. Okay.

42:30

So let's go with this one here.

42:32

This is a highlighted comment. That's one of the best eyeopening

42:34

benefits of carnivore is

42:37

learning that you are in charge. of what your health will be.

42:40

It's not medicine. It's a diet. We are no longer slaves to the plants.

42:48

And then moving on to the next one here.

42:51

Good afternoon, South side, Chicago

42:51

in the house, just like the doctor

42:55

Hampton for taking his time and sharing

42:55

his knowledge on channels like this.

43:01

One of your fellow

43:01

Chicagoans there. You better know it. I

43:05

love it. And then we got a question here.

43:07

It says, I've lowered my BP and

43:07

A1c but still have waistline that

43:11

is 38, putting me still needing

43:11

to improve my metabolic health.

43:17

I'm eating mostly carnivore. Will things continue to improve?

43:22

Yeah, I think

43:22

I'm gonna definitely say yes.

43:25

And I think it goes back to. what, how we're going

43:26

to measure other things.

43:28

If she's one of the problems

43:28

with carnivores, that is

43:32

so good at building muscle. And and if you think about Dr Anthony

43:34

Chafee as an example, he says he

43:38

doesn't have time to exercise that off. Now we know he exercises some in fact,

43:39

the video that I watched more recently

43:44

where he said he didn't exercise much.

43:46

He said after I finished

43:46

recording, I'm going to exercise.

43:48

So we know he exercises, right? So because you're losing fat,

43:50

but because of all that amino

43:57

acid, you may be gaining muscle. So part of it is there may be some muscle.

44:02

Gain, particularly if you're

44:02

doing any form of exercise how

44:06

long you're doing it matters. And it took us years

44:08

to get to where we are.

44:11

So it may take a little time to

44:11

get to where you're trying to go.

44:15

So I would just focus on again,

44:15

let's measure some other stuff.

44:18

Let's going back to what I mentioned,

44:18

the fasting insulin, the April protein

44:24

beta a ratio, the cholesterol particle

44:24

sizes the C peptide, the homocysteine,

44:29

the C reactive protein, the set rate. Let's measure some of those things.

44:33

If they're getting better, I would

44:33

focus in that area and make sure

44:37

you're just doing what you know,

44:37

state of course if you are, you,

44:41

you should be keto adaptive by now.

44:43

Or fat adaptive, meaning your body

44:43

is using fat as its primary fuel.

44:47

So in that setting, let's not eat

44:47

when we don't eat to be eating.

44:51

So intermittent fasting is perfect. People who are doing this dietary

44:53

pattern because they use fat for fuel

44:56

and they have fat on their belly. So if you fast and maybe get down, I, I

44:58

tried eating like Between four and eight,

45:04

but I just couldn't get enough protein in. So I tend to do a 12 to eight.

45:08

Maybe you can tolerate a four to eight.

45:10

Maybe you can tolerate a one meal a day. I would consider that I would push that

45:12

water because water is very important for

45:19

allowing you to lose weight because of

45:19

just how all the metabolic processes work.

45:24

But as a general rule I do

45:24

expect things to improve.

45:28

If you talk to Dr. Chafee, let him know. I'm trying to get a hold of him.

45:31

I we're trying to get him on a carnivore

45:31

calendar for the ladies so we can secure

45:36

the rest of our funds for the documentary.

45:38

It'd be a seller. Just let him know, man,

45:39

carnivore calendar.

45:42

Let's go. Yeah, he, if Dr. Anthony Chafee's on a carnivore

45:44

calendar, my God, that would be a, right?

45:50

Yeah, we got it. We're all good to go.

45:52

Let's film. Let's do it. Yeah.

45:55

I'll put that word. I appreciate it.

46:00

Dr. Tony one of the things that, that

46:00

I noticed on this conversation

46:04

about lowering BP and A1C is I was

46:04

on HCTZ for my blood pressure and

46:10

it was keeping my insulin high. And once I got off of that that

46:12

helped lower my insulin, which

46:16

then improved my weight loss. That's something that I noticed on it.

46:19

What's your thoughts?

46:20

Yeah, I like that. Water pills are very interesting

46:22

because they, they make you get rid

46:27

of water and it reduces the the volume

46:27

of blood in your in your arteries.

46:34

And they, they can give you side

46:34

effects and things like that, dizziness,

46:38

headache, nausea, and things like that. So in your case you found when you got

46:40

off the water pill, what happened again?

46:44

You're

46:46

so my blood pressure

46:46

was continuously coming down.

46:48

And I got to a point where it got so low. I started to get dizzy and lightheaded.

46:53

Absolutely. If I've been over. And then we, we came off of the HCTZ,

46:53

but one of the things I noticed from

46:57

my lab was, is that my insulin levels

46:57

were still high, and that's when I was

47:00

on the side effects. Oh, got you. Okay. And

47:02

but once I came off the HCTZ,

47:02

and then, I know this happened for

47:05

Sean Sean Intentional Carnivore too,

47:05

because he was on the same thing, my, my

47:10

weight loss just kicked back into gear.

47:12

I had been stalled for weeks

47:12

there, and when I came off that

47:15

medication my metabolic kicked in,

47:15

and I started losing weight again.

47:20

That's interesting. Yeah. My, my understanding about that

47:21

drug interesting enough is that it

47:27

typically inhibits insulin resistance.

47:31

Typically and then so that's interesting.

47:36

That is actually, I'm thinking back

47:36

now I remember a while ago when I saw.

47:43

A study because you would think that a C.

47:47

T. Z. it's gonna be beneficial.

47:51

But I remember there was a my study

47:51

and they found that the mice who

47:56

took it actually actually had more

47:56

problems with glucose tolerance.

48:01

Interesting enough. So my God, I think if we search this and

48:02

we probably look this up, I would look at

48:07

do a search and see If there's like a C.

48:10

T. Z. Study with mice and I bet you a

48:11

million dollars in that study, it'll

48:15

show that It actually harmed the

48:15

mice in terms of insulin resistance.

48:20

So that's all that comes to mind,

48:20

but that's what I would say.

48:22

I think that it may be

48:22

that's what's going on.

48:25

Of course, you're not a mice, but I

48:25

think that's probably what was going on.

48:28

That drug... There's so much noise in medicine, and

48:29

with so much noise, what happens is...

48:35

We don't think about the potential

48:35

side effects of medicine that's

48:39

supposed to be helping us. For example, if you're taking a beta

48:40

blocker, it increases weight gain.

48:45

If you're taking a antihistamine,

48:45

it increases weight gain.

48:49

So you're, if you don't know that, then

48:49

you're like, why am I not losing weight?

48:53

Because you're still taking

48:53

antihistamine, even if it's a nasal spray.

48:57

That's the problem. And I think I'm going to take

48:58

a quick search on my computer

49:01

and see if I can find that. And it looks like I see this one study a

49:04

little complicated sounding study, but I

49:15

do see a study in Science Direct that does

49:15

say recognize this one study That the H.

49:21

C. that the hydrochlorothiazide did

49:23

lead to some problems with glucose

49:27

metabolism and it says mice fed.

49:30

A. C. T. Z. had impaired glucose tolerance.

49:35

So so my so we can't extrapolate.

49:38

I'm automatically to humans, but I

49:38

think that's probably what happened

49:41

to you is that it was affecting you

49:41

in a way that was not favorable.

49:45

And that's why it got better. And so I'm glad you brought that up

49:47

because I had not thought so many patients

49:51

that I see have this drug on their profile

49:51

and I don't think I even thought about it.

49:55

So I think we need to start

49:55

thinking about that drug and

49:58

I'm glad you brought that up. That's may not be the best drug for

49:59

people who are at risk for diabetes

50:04

or who are concerned about that. That's crazy.

50:06

There's just so much out there, man. We're trying to keep up with it.

50:09

And I've been on that. I've been on that drug since

50:10

I was like 24, 25 years old.

50:15

That was the first thing they put me on

50:15

was, Ben's apparel and HTTZ, and I've been

50:19

on that, since I was 25, when they started

50:19

trying to control my blood pressure.

50:26

And then even when I lost weight back in

50:26

2012, I got, I started doing a calorie

50:31

restriction, started exercising and I

50:31

got down to about the weight I'm at now.

50:35

My blood pressure never came

50:35

down, came down a little bit, but

50:37

it didn't come down like it did. On carnivore and I have a video on

50:39

this where I actually documented month

50:44

in and month out my blood pressure as

50:44

I was on carnivore, I really started

50:48

in April of documenting, but you can

50:48

actually watch my blood pressure drop

50:52

and then you can see where I came off

50:52

a pill and it went up a little bit,

50:54

but then it came right back down. So it's been a real interesting

50:56

thing for me to watch and

50:59

just keep track of as I, but. As I've gone down this road and

51:01

like I said, I'm just down to one

51:04

benzopril a day where I was taking two.

51:07

I was taking HCTZ. So I'm super excited to

51:08

be off, off medicine.

51:11

I'd much rather cure my

51:11

problems than medicate

51:14

them. Yeah, and this will be a

51:14

great nugget for anybody.

51:17

Since so many people take

51:17

hydrochlorothiazide and so many

51:19

people take those ACE inhibitors like

51:19

lisinopril, captopril, et cetera this

51:24

is a nice nugget for people to say,

51:24

huh, if you're having some disconnect

51:29

between all of these changes and

51:29

your A1C is not quite responding.

51:33

and your blood pressure has gotten better.

51:35

Now we're going to really

51:35

push our clinician to maybe

51:39

let's can I'm doing well. My blood pressure is okay.

51:42

Let's can we try to do a

51:42

trial off this medicine?

51:45

And if I'm doing better and then

51:45

you check your labs, you may have

51:48

the same experience john had, but

51:48

that's a nice nugget for anybody.

51:53

And again, that's probably the most

51:53

commonly starting drug for blood pressure

51:57

is the water pill because it's the one

51:57

with the least, we thought, side effects.

52:01

Let's put that out there. And this is how people become

52:03

their own doctor in a way.

52:07

They get a nugget. They respectfully bring it to the

52:08

attention of their clinician, and

52:13

they do a little bit of an experiment. But the goal is, if I don't have to

52:15

be on medicine, ultimately, down the

52:19

road, and we don't get off medicine

52:19

until we've healed, then I don't

52:23

have to worry about that side effect. So that's why I'm so happy for you, and

52:25

that your life has transitioned to one

52:29

where you've healed, and you don't have

52:29

to take these medicines chronically.

52:33

Absolutely. Let's let's grab this next question here.

52:36

We got meeting wellnesses. What can I say to my doctor who

52:37

told me that if my cholesterol

52:40

comes back high on blood work, I am

52:40

clogging my arteries with plaque.

52:45

She also said a keto diet

52:45

is not anti inflammatory.

52:50

I think I, the first

52:50

thing you say to people is that finally,

52:59

Large organizations endorse keto.

53:03

So if there, if the doctor's not

53:03

aware, I remember when a day Fox,

53:10

the black carnivore was active.

53:12

She's not active now. And if you search my name and.

53:18

A. J. Fox, or just search my name in the

53:18

American Heart Association, you'll

53:23

see the announcement that we're

53:23

familiar with when the American Heart

53:28

Association endorsed low carb, right?

53:31

And when they endorsed low

53:31

carb, they also endorsed keto.

53:35

It's in small print though. And so if you click into the show notes

53:36

for that video it'll give you a link

53:43

to that public, that, that announcement

53:43

that they made and in that announcement,

53:49

it'll show that keto was okay. So if the American Heart Association

53:50

says it's okay, although we don't

53:53

make our decisions based on them,

53:53

we know that's a rabbit hole.

53:56

We don't want to go down. Then that should provide a

53:57

conventional doc with some proof.

54:00

That doctor also needs to know that

54:00

the American Diabetes Association

54:04

and the Society for Clinical

54:04

Endocrinology, they all endorse locar.

54:09

So that's number. So I would start there. Number two.

54:13

When it comes to the cholesterol there are

54:13

so many things that we've learned about

54:21

cholesterol not being a great determinant

54:21

of your risk for heart disease.

54:27

So I would, I even did a video about that. Dr.

54:29

Tony Hampton LDL cholesterol

54:29

and total cholesterol.

54:34

If that's the baseline,

54:34

Our blood pressure is 1.

54:38

9 times more predictive of a future heart

54:38

attack than our cholesterol and LDL.

54:44

Our fasting insulin is 6. 7 times more predictive

54:46

of a future heart attack.

54:50

That would be another resource

54:50

in the study that it came from

54:54

that showed that to rely on the

54:54

cholesterol and LDL is a farce.

55:00

More importantly now, let's be clear. If you're talking to a doctor,

55:02

they're not going to be able to handle

55:04

any of this because it's too much. challenging.

55:09

But I just want to put it out there

55:09

for you so you're comfortable.

55:12

The other thing that most of us are

55:12

aware of is that when you look at

55:16

studies, and it may have been in that

55:16

same video, and I know others have

55:20

talked about it, more people have heart

55:20

attacks with a low LDL than a high LDL.

55:26

That's just fact based on

55:26

randomized controlled trials.

55:30

So for a person to think keto is

55:30

inflammatory is based on old news.

55:37

It's based on those old studies that

55:37

were done with surveys and data mining.

55:43

They were not based on

55:43

randomized control trials.

55:45

So these have been debunked already.

55:48

And what I would say to the doctor

55:48

is that let's do a couple of things.

55:51

Let's get a coronary

55:51

artery calcium score test.

55:54

So if you decide to stay with a doctor,

55:54

Who does not know the new information.

56:00

I would say to the doctor if my

56:00

calcium score is low, and then when

56:03

we agree to follow that, as long as

56:03

it doesn't go up, then we're good.

56:09

And then all those things we

56:09

talked about earlier, those other

56:12

tests, we're not going to do LDL. We're going to do LDL particle sizes.

56:16

We're gonna do the triglycerides,

56:16

h L ratio, the APO lipoprotein B2

56:20

eight ratio, the set rates, the

56:20

crps, the homocysteines, the C

56:25

peptides, and those types of tests. A one Cs.

56:28

And if those numbers are showing

56:28

improvement, and the only thing on my

56:31

labs are cholesterol and L D L, would you

56:31

walk with me following these other labs?

56:37

And as long as those things

56:37

are doing well, I can.

56:41

Be your patient. You can be my doctor. If after giving them a reasonable,

56:43

collaborative approach, and they say, I

56:49

can't do that, then I would go to this

56:49

Society of Metabolic Health Practitioners,

56:54

Diet Doctor, or Low Carb USA, doctor

56:54

search, and search for a doctor who

56:59

wants to work in partnership with you.

57:01

I want a doctor who has

57:01

the heart of a teacher.

57:05

I listened to Dave Ramsey, who's in

57:05

Tennessee and, the financial guy, right?

57:08

And he always talks about, I need

57:08

somebody who has the heart of a teacher.

57:12

If my doctor is not willing to walk with

57:12

me and be a teacher, and to then and agree

57:17

to disagree, all relationships disagree.

57:19

But if we can walk together. And work together and come

57:21

with an agreeable approach.

57:24

That's what I would do. I do not want people to just leave

57:25

their conventional docs because

57:28

there's not enough metabolic

57:28

docs out there like myself.

57:31

We just want to see if we can work

57:31

with them and maybe give them some

57:34

information that they had not heard.

57:37

And if they are comfortable

57:37

with that approach, that's

57:40

how I would approach this. You're muted, John.

57:52

Sorry. I mute myself out. So I'm not coughing in the background.

57:55

Anyway, so you would recommend a a

57:55

full lipid test on the next time to

57:59

go in with I think so. Get the lipid particle sizes also

58:00

inquire, which are insurer because

58:06

the particle sizes, they may not. cover that, because they

58:08

don't consider that they may.

58:10

And in our health system, a coronary

58:10

artery calcium score, I think once you're

58:14

35, we all should get that 35 and up.

58:18

But I would do those tests to

58:18

say, Hey, I'm doing pretty good.

58:22

You're concerned about my cholesterol,

58:22

but my calcium score is zero.

58:25

So I would probably have

58:25

some plaquing by now.

58:29

So since I don't. Can we keep, working on what we're doing

58:31

and just let me work on my diet and

58:37

I'll try to be a good patient otherwise.

58:39

But I don't want to have the high risk of

58:39

68 percent increased risk for diabetes.

58:45

If I'm on a statin, some people.

58:48

Are there people that can benefit from a statin? Absolutely.

58:51

If you've had a heart attack,

58:51

maybe you can argue that.

58:53

But for most people, even in that

58:53

same article with the American Heart

58:57

Association, they say if you have a

58:57

CA score of zero and you're diabetic,

59:01

you do not need to be on the statin. I am not saying publicly that everybody

59:03

following us today get off their statin

59:07

because their doctor would have a fit. But what I'm saying is that because

59:08

it's not standard of care yet.

59:12

Because even when the American

59:12

Heart Association says something,

59:14

it doesn't become standard because

59:14

there's other organizations.

59:16

They all have to get in cahoots

59:16

with each other and make a decision.

59:20

But what I am saying is that based on

59:20

what they publish, if you have a zero

59:23

calcium score and you're diabetic,

59:23

you do not have to be on the stat.

59:26

And that's just fact. So what I tell my patients, stop

59:27

being a diabetic, let's reverse it.

59:31

And then once you're not a diabetic,

59:31

we can get you off the stat.

59:34

And that's my angle to sell the diet

59:34

and to convince them that's the path.

59:39

You can argue a person who's diabetic.

59:42

They have a equal risk of a

59:42

heart attack compared to a person

59:45

who's already had a heart attack. So that's a real data point, right?

59:49

But if you get rid of the root cause,

59:49

which is the inflammation from diabetes

59:53

and the glycation and all the things

59:53

that occur, then maybe at that point.

59:57

There's no need to take the medicine. So that's the, so if you get a zero

59:58

calcium score and your other tests,

1:00:01

like the particle sizes look, okay, I

1:00:01

would, roll with the diet and then repeat

1:00:07

at, maybe in a year, couple of years.

1:00:10

And then if things are still going

1:00:10

well, you can still work with that

1:00:12

doctor and still stay on that diet,

1:00:12

fix your diet, fix your diabetes.

1:00:17

Amen. You better say it.

1:00:19

You're a good marketing person. Yeah, that's, if you guys are wondering

1:00:22

why I just said that,

1:00:22

that's a book that Dr.

1:00:25

Tony Hampton wrote. So check it out. Fix Your Diet, Fix Your Diabetes.

1:00:28

And I need to change

1:00:28

the cover because back then the cover

1:00:32

doesn't, it doesn't reflect it's more

1:00:32

it's got some stuff on that cover.

1:00:36

So I got to work on it. And I told my wife I got to fix

1:00:37

that because the information

1:00:40

is good, but the cover. You're just looking for a

1:00:42

cover and I need to fix that.

1:00:44

So just FYI, quick question.

1:00:46

Are you Chicago bears fan? Oh man, you killing me.

1:00:56

Yeah, I have my fraternity

1:00:56

jacket on, but I'm a Chicago.

1:00:59

I'm so hardcore Chicago, man.

1:01:01

I've been praying. for our quarterback.

1:01:04

I know he had a couple

1:01:04

of good games recently.

1:01:07

A lot of people are still iffy

1:01:07

about Has he turned a corner?

1:01:11

Because at the end of the day, we know

1:01:11

he's talented, but has he turned a corner?

1:01:15

Yeah, I'm a, I reluctantly

1:01:15

say I'm a Bears fan.

1:01:19

I won't hold it against you. It's okay. No, don't kill me, man.

1:01:21

But I will say this. We're at, we're in six states as

1:01:22

a health system, advocate health.

1:01:26

And when we merged with Aurora,

1:01:26

which is in Wisconsin, I had to.

1:01:29

Grit my teeth. I have to deal with the Milwaukee Bucks.

1:01:32

I got to deal, I grew up a bulls fan.

1:01:34

I was a Michael Jordan fan. So

1:01:36

yeah, I grew up a bulls fan. Yeah.

1:01:39

It's yeah. I'm a huge Chicago.

1:01:41

Literally Blackhawks, whoever,

1:01:41

if it says Chicago, I'm all in.

1:01:45

I was just wondering, we

1:01:45

can get back to Cardinal.

1:01:48

Before

1:01:50

we move on to the next question

1:01:50

here you guys, anybody who haven't,

1:01:53

you don't want to ask anything from

1:01:53

the table here before we move on.

1:01:56

That's just one thing. If I could.

1:01:59

You guys

1:01:59

you mentioned that I just want

1:01:59

to get in the mind of a doctor

1:02:03

cause you were talking with Dr. Kiltz and you guys were

1:02:04

just spitting gold.

1:02:07

You mentioned that you were caught in

1:02:07

like a matrix thought mindset where you

1:02:12

were following the guidelines and then.

1:02:15

The people weren't doing good with those

1:02:15

old guidelines that you thought maybe they

1:02:19

just weren't listening to you as a doctor.

1:02:21

Is that, do you think that's the mindset

1:02:21

that a lot of doctors are caught in right

1:02:26

now? Yeah, it is a because if you've been

1:02:27

indoctrinated into the assumption that the

1:02:36

World Health Organization and the people

1:02:36

who make the nutritional guidelines,

1:02:42

Do they do their due diligence? All doctors believe that when they

1:02:44

put this information out, it's

1:02:48

based on high quality studies.

1:02:51

They don't know that it's not, and

1:02:51

that even when it comes to that

1:02:56

meat question, and Nina Tyshos will

1:02:56

clearly state, when this correlation

1:03:02

between meat and cancer came out,

1:03:02

of the, 14 or 15 studies they used.

1:03:10

All were observational. So by on its face, we should

1:03:12

say that's not real science.

1:03:17

That's just association correlation.

1:03:19

But the average doctor thinks

1:03:19

it was causing a equals B.

1:03:25

None of them were randomized

1:03:25

controlled trials.

1:03:27

And oh, by the way, eight of

1:03:27

them did not show a correlation

1:03:31

between meat and cancer.

1:03:35

And then maybe Another six or so

1:03:35

only showed possible and only one

1:03:43

that showed a correlation was the one

1:03:43

that was done and at Loma Linda and

1:03:51

there was this unhealthy user bias.

1:03:55

Thing that kicked in with that one. So because the people who tend to eat meat

1:03:57

tend to eat a lot of other crap that at

1:04:03

least meat not being one of the craps, but

1:04:03

the other crap that comes with the meat.

1:04:07

So doctors are penalized, not

1:04:07

like a nutrition professional, but

1:04:15

if you don't follow the standard

1:04:15

of care, then you're penalized.

1:04:20

The standard of care says

1:04:20

follow the dietary guidelines.

1:04:24

The standard of care says everybody,

1:04:24

plus their mama, should be on a statin.

1:04:30

And the new drug that's hot is Jardius.

1:04:32

Everybody should be on Jardius. Which makes you pee out glucose, which

1:04:34

is ridiculous on its face, when you

1:04:39

should just tell people not to consume

1:04:39

the things that turn into glucose.

1:04:42

But so everything is medicine centric.

1:04:45

And all we're saying to the public is,

1:04:45

we want to focus on the root cause of

1:04:51

why you had congestive heart failure. not just to put you on a pill.

1:04:55

We want to focus on the root cause of

1:04:55

your blood pressure, your diabetes.

1:05:00

And if all else fails,

1:05:00

medicines make a ton of sense.

1:05:04

Or while you're healing, take the

1:05:04

medicine with the idea that you're

1:05:09

going to get off the medicine. But we're doctors are not

1:05:11

trained to think that way. They're trained to think, take the

1:05:13

medicine to manage your disease.

1:05:19

The dietary guidelines you must follow.

1:05:22

And if you're not doing

1:05:22

well, it's because you're not

1:05:25

following the dietary guidelines. And the Mediterranean diet, which

1:05:27

all my colleagues recommend, will

1:05:31

tell you to eat grains, which will

1:05:31

absolutely increase your blood sugar.

1:05:38

But they don't look at the Outcomes

1:05:38

as much as they look at, that's

1:05:44

what we're told to tell you. So a low carb Mediterranean diet

1:05:46

is probably ideal for some people.

1:05:51

A regular Mediterranean diet,

1:05:51

in my opinion, if you're

1:05:53

diabetic, doesn't make any sense. If you eat quinoa, your

1:05:55

sugar's going to go up.

1:05:58

period. So I just think that patients should

1:05:59

follow the numbers and go by the outcome.

1:06:05

So if you're blood sugar spikes

1:06:05

and again, we said in the beginning

1:06:08

that hyperinsulinemia is the

1:06:08

cause of all of these chronic

1:06:12

conditions for the most part. So if you're spiking Or if you're not

1:06:13

even diabetic and you just happen to

1:06:18

get access to a continuous glucose

1:06:18

monitor, the diet will reveal itself.

1:06:23

You'll see those spikes and you'll avoid it. So that's, yeah, so I feel doctors

1:06:24

are not trained to think beyond the

1:06:30

medicine, surgeries, and procedures.

1:06:32

And that's what leads to them only relying

1:06:32

on medicine, surgeries, and procedures.

1:06:37

They don't even, if you go to a doctor and

1:06:37

say, I was thinking about berberine as a

1:06:42

supplement, they don't know what to say.

1:06:45

They don't know what to tell you. Because they're not trained to tell you,

1:06:47

even a simple thing like CoQ10, they

1:06:51

can give you a surface level answer,

1:06:51

but if you start asking them more

1:06:55

detailed questions, they don't know. We have to change our health system

1:06:58

to ensure that doctors have a little

1:07:03

bit more knowledge, or at least have

1:07:03

a health system that can then say,

1:07:06

hey, we have a team of people who

1:07:06

will honor your dietary pattern.

1:07:12

But tell you what you need to know.

1:07:15

If you're bored, you may

1:07:15

need some electrolytes.

1:07:17

If you're eating liver once or

1:07:17

twice a week or some supplement,

1:07:21

you may not need electrolytes. But if you're not, you

1:07:22

may need electrolytes. I didn't start taking I take

1:07:24

keto chow's electrolytes, right?

1:07:29

They're electrolytes and mineral, and I

1:07:29

have to look at Kimberry's face every day.

1:07:32

It drives me crazy. Because he's on the bottom.

1:07:36

Shout out to Kimberry. But I found that helps me because

1:07:38

I, some nights I was getting crampy.

1:07:42

Okay, I take electrolytes. I take omega three because

1:07:43

I don't eat enough fish.

1:07:46

I like steak, right? I take vitamin D because it's

1:07:48

dark skin and even the lighter

1:07:51

skins I see on this panel. I don't get enough vitamin D from the sun.

1:07:56

So I do take a few things. But, for most of us, you just have

1:07:58

to, we want doctors to just know,

1:08:04

oh, you're a carnivore, these are

1:08:04

the things you need to think about.

1:08:07

Oh, you're plant based. These are the, it's going to be

1:08:09

a longer list, but these are the

1:08:11

things that you need to think about. But doctors don't know.

1:08:15

They have good intentions. But they're judged on whether

1:08:18

or not you were put on a statin.

1:08:21

They're judged on whether or not

1:08:21

you referred them to the eye doctor.

1:08:25

They're not necessarily judged. There's some judgment on outcomes.

1:08:29

We don't get paid to heal people.

1:08:32

We get paid to put people on the

1:08:32

right medicine and to do the things

1:08:37

that they consider standard of care. But the outcomes...

1:08:43

If they don't reach the outcomes

1:08:43

to patients, then we say

1:08:46

something's wrong with the patient. And that's just not factually true.

1:08:50

Do you think there's hope

1:08:50

for a change in the system?

1:08:53

I'm in a large health system. So my job is to not leave the large

1:08:55

health system and make change within.

1:09:03

Now, my role is a little different. I have face to face interactions,

1:09:05

but I also help lead food pharmacies.

1:09:12

And we have a smart farm where

1:09:12

we grow food and we bring it to

1:09:15

the pharmacy and we have diabetes

1:09:15

and COP prevention programs.

1:09:19

And we teach these concepts there. And then we think about

1:09:21

social determinants of health,

1:09:24

economics, food deserts.

1:09:27

I can't exercise outside

1:09:27

because they're shooting.

1:09:30

How do we then support people? How do we coach people health equity?

1:09:36

Why do some people? Not do well in health care when other

1:09:37

people do it just because of their race.

1:09:43

So I have to think about

1:09:43

removing those barriers.

1:09:47

So my role is to focus in that. And then while we're doing

1:09:48

that, we Oh, by the way, having

1:09:54

access to food is health equity.

1:09:57

Understanding that certain

1:09:57

communities have less access

1:10:00

than others is health equity. So we do that and we make sure

1:10:01

everybody feels when they come

1:10:05

into our doors that they feel

1:10:05

that we understand their struggle.

1:10:10

And when I was in keto Palooza, and

1:10:10

we talked there, I talked a little

1:10:14

bit about that and how if you and

1:10:14

I and the illustration, you've seen

1:10:18

this maybe where you have 2 trees.

1:10:22

and the apples are at the same height.

1:10:25

So you can, everybody

1:10:25

can get an apple equally.

1:10:27

The question is, can everybody

1:10:27

get an apple equally?

1:10:30

And everybody was at different heights and

1:10:30

the short person can't reach the apple.

1:10:34

But you're saying what's fair

1:10:34

because it's at the same height.

1:10:37

The question is, we need to put

1:10:37

some stools under the short person.

1:10:41

And the question is that fair to the

1:10:41

person who can reach the apple already?

1:10:44

And I'm saying it is fair once that

1:10:44

person understands that the short person

1:10:48

needs to have a way to get And that, and

1:10:48

an example of that could be, you have

1:10:54

somebody in front of you that's in a

1:10:54

abusive marriage, and you've given them

1:11:00

all the carnivore and keto information,

1:11:00

and you're like, what's wrong with them?

1:11:04

There's nothing wrong with them. They're in a dysfunctional marriage.

1:11:06

And I'm gonna tell you right now,

1:11:06

there are in some communities, we don't

1:11:10

even want our women to be too skinny. So the guy is I don't

1:11:13

want you to lose weight. I know it's going to help you not

1:11:15

have diabetes and hypertension.

1:11:18

So how do you have a

1:11:18

conversation with that husband?

1:11:21

And say, you know what? She'll still look cute

1:11:23

if she's a little skinny.

1:11:27

Seriously, these are this sounds crazy,

1:11:27

but you have to why do people struggle

1:11:31

and what we can do as a health system

1:11:31

as a clinician and in your cases, social

1:11:36

media influencers to help everybody

1:11:36

with their particular struggle.

1:11:41

And stop looking at them like

1:11:41

there's something wrong with them.

1:11:43

There's nothing wrong with them. It's something wrong with us because we

1:11:45

haven't figured out how to help them.

1:11:48

That's how I look. I'm going to look. I'm gonna do some self reflection.

1:11:51

Where do I have gaps as a doctor or a

1:11:51

leader that's preventing me from reaching

1:11:57

the audience that I need to reach? And sometimes it will

1:11:59

come back to that person.

1:12:02

But many times it's because we haven't

1:12:02

given them the tools to be successful.

1:12:08

And that's how I, and I'll always

1:12:08

look at myself first before I

1:12:11

look at the person in front of me. It's all an awareness, right?

1:12:14

Awareness. Yes. There you go. I have the same problem.

1:12:27

Whenever I mute myself, I

1:12:27

always forget to unmute.

1:12:31

Just try to be quiet and respectful back there. All right, anyways, we got

1:12:35

six questions lined up here.

1:12:38

I got starred so we'll

1:12:38

work our way through here.

1:12:41

Start with this one here

1:12:41

it's so frustrating for me

1:12:44

to say that stay the course. I'm definitely a food and sugar

1:12:46

addict My question is how do I

1:12:49

stay on the course question mark? I want to get a coach,

1:12:51

but they are way too

1:12:54

expensive

1:12:54

They are expensive.

1:12:56

I even Dr. Joan Ifflin's reset community.

1:12:59

I have a link tree. Dr. Tony Hampton link tree.

1:13:02

And I think one of the links is with Dr.

1:13:04

Joan Ifflin's reset community. And the questionnaire is based on, for

1:13:07

processed food addiction is based on

1:13:13

the alcohol addiction questions, right?

1:13:15

11 of them. If you do those, she

1:13:16

already, is saying peachy.

1:13:20

I like that that she's got an

1:13:20

addiction, but I would still

1:13:23

go through those questions. And then but you're still talking about.

1:13:27

59 a month, right? That's still real money.

1:13:31

I know the steak and butter gang. They have I think it's

1:13:33

probably 30 a month.

1:13:35

So everything there's a

1:13:35

cost right to get support.

1:13:39

And we have coaching in our health system. So I think recognizing you have a

1:13:40

problem is the first thing you do.

1:13:44

And I think for this one question, I do

1:13:44

think that if it's a group thing like

1:13:51

the steak and butter gang and there's

1:13:51

others, That may be at a cost point,

1:13:55

30 bucks where you can handle that.

1:13:58

I would try to handle that because for

1:13:58

30 a month, that may be the missing link.

1:14:03

So I don't care if you just don't go

1:14:03

to Starbucks a few couple of times, not

1:14:07

that you're drinking coffee, cause some

1:14:07

connoisseurs don't drink coffee, but.

1:14:12

That's what I would do, because I

1:14:12

think the support is when Dr Tro did

1:14:17

his study with the industrial company,

1:14:17

and it was more keto, and they were,

1:14:22

they found tremendous results, reduced

1:14:22

the cost of care to the industry,

1:14:25

industrial company for the employees

1:14:25

by 4000 per patient per year.

1:14:30

80 percent of that success was not keto.

1:14:33

It was coaching. We need coaching.

1:14:38

So I agree with this. I agree with Peachy that I need port and I

1:14:40

would find 30 a month to at least do that.

1:14:48

Now, if you're really a processed

1:14:48

food addicted person, I would

1:14:51

get that 59 a month with Dr.

1:14:54

Joan Iflin. It's 14 hours. Per day of like zoom meetings, you

1:14:55

can listen in while you're cooking

1:15:01

or whatever, while you're driving or

1:15:01

you can participate or just listen

1:15:05

and what they found is that's the

1:15:05

level of support that you need because

1:15:08

those neurons in your brain that are

1:15:08

addictive neurons, they don't go away.

1:15:13

They go dormant. But as soon as you drive by Starbucks or

1:15:14

Dunkin Donuts, they wake up and say, Hey,

1:15:22

it's just one little donut won't hurt. It just went down and then you go

1:15:24

right down that little, you wake that

1:15:28

neuron up and it's Hey, I miss you.

1:15:30

I'm here now. So then the whole dozen is gone.

1:15:33

And then Krispy Kreme, my

1:15:33

wife was pregnant, man.

1:15:37

That was a new Krispy Kreme

1:15:37

and she was from the South.

1:15:39

So she had heard of Krispy Kreme when

1:15:39

it came to Illinois, man, I had to

1:15:43

drive 30 minutes to Krispy Kreme and she

1:15:43

insisted if the light's not on, wait.

1:15:49

Until it comes out, you want

1:15:49

them to be hot, like It's crazy.

1:15:54

That's right. Anyway, that's how I would

1:15:55

answer that question. Hey, I

1:15:57

want to, I want to, can

1:15:57

I chime in on this question?

1:16:00

Oh, yeah, please. Yeah, go ahead. I just wanted to say to Peachy Pam

1:16:01

and Marilyn there, Pam thanks for

1:16:05

watching the, watching here, but

1:16:05

doing what you're doing right now,

1:16:10

watching these lives, getting in a

1:16:10

community on some of these Facebook

1:16:14

communities, man, has helped me so much.

1:16:16

Larry and Cassie Carnivore

1:16:16

Quest the intentional carnivore.

1:16:19

Sean White's got a group,

1:16:19

carnivore, carnivorous community.

1:16:23

I believe it is just finding some

1:16:23

of these communities and has been,

1:16:28

there's been days that I've set.

1:16:31

Somewhere and wanted to go get a bag

1:16:31

of peanut M& Ms or hit the Krispy Kreme

1:16:36

because down here in South Carolina,

1:16:36

we got Krispy Kremes on every corner.

1:16:40

But and I've jumped in those groups and

1:16:40

maybe expressed what's going on and people

1:16:45

have come back and been so supportive. There's a lot of really good

1:16:47

supportive type groups out there.

1:16:50

And then if you follow these different

1:16:50

YouTube channels, it seems like

1:16:54

the more carnivore is taken off

1:16:54

that people are there's a lot of

1:16:58

live streams like this going on.

1:17:00

So you can jump in there and and man

1:17:00

how blessed are we to have, like right

1:17:05

now you can hear from a doctor, Dr. Tony Hampton's on here talking about,

1:17:06

the questions that everybody's got, so

1:17:11

that those are just some of the ways

1:17:11

that you can try to get your mind off

1:17:15

of those things that are ultimately

1:17:15

trying to really beat us up and kill

1:17:21

us. Good stuff.

1:17:24

Good stuff. Anybody else want to jump in there?

1:17:29

Nope. They are quiet. Nope.

1:17:31

No, I'm not muted I just make it sure. All right, moving on to the next question.

1:17:35

I got Hypothyroidism, I think I

1:17:35

said that horribly but there it is.

1:17:40

I'm currently taking we'll go V

1:17:40

for weight loss My fiance and I are

1:17:46

transitioning to keto carnivore both

1:17:46

of us are mainly doing for the weight

1:17:49

loss What are other benefits on

1:17:52

carnivore? I think The first thing is to start

1:17:53

by saying we're going to do medicines

1:18:03

like Wegovy as bridge therapy.

1:18:07

So the benefit of carnivore is that

1:18:07

you We go the slowest gastric emptying.

1:18:14

So does carnivore, right?

1:18:17

We go the releases insulin more

1:18:17

on demand instead of just giving

1:18:24

you too much insulin because we

1:18:24

don't want hyper insulinemia.

1:18:27

When you eat a keto or carnivore

1:18:27

dietary pattern, you tend to.

1:18:32

Get most of your glucose than insulin when

1:18:32

you break down fat and protein, so it's

1:18:39

more on demand instead of just consuming

1:18:39

stuff that puts glucose in your blood.

1:18:44

Just be because we go the and ozempic and

1:18:44

Marjoram and sex and and trulicity, all

1:18:55

have the risk of the following number 1.

1:18:59

Increased risk for suicide in

1:18:59

people who are at risk for suicide.

1:19:06

That's in England, and that's what

1:19:06

the studies are starting to show.

1:19:09

Increased risk of thyroid tumors.

1:19:12

Increased risk for pancreatitis. Increased risk for that gastric

1:19:15

slowing to turn into where the

1:19:21

stomach just stops working. So that's a problem.

1:19:24

So what you want to do

1:19:24

is, let me, one more.

1:19:29

Protein. When you take Wegovy,

1:19:31

you lose muscle and fat.

1:19:35

When you do Carnivore, you gain. You lose fat, but you gain muscle.

1:19:39

You don't lose it. So if you do this temporarily as a

1:19:40

bridge therapy, and because you've not

1:19:46

been successful, I think that's fine. But you will have the same benefit,

1:19:49

gastric slowing, making you

1:19:54

feel full, increasing insulin on

1:19:54

demand, and most importantly, not

1:19:59

being hungry doing carnivores. So I would. really tighten up your carnivore

1:20:02

keto game and then start the process

1:20:07

of transition off of that medicine.

1:20:10

As soon as you, you

1:20:10

feel like you're ready.

1:20:13

Carnivore, the benefits are endless

1:20:13

for many of, we talked about the G.

1:20:18

I. Benefits, but most of it goes back

1:20:18

to what I said, autoimmune diseases.

1:20:25

Behavioral health, things like

1:20:25

depression, bipolar, schizophrenia,

1:20:32

seizures and other neurodegenerative

1:20:32

diseases, things that deal with the

1:20:36

nervous system, metabolic diseases. So the benefits are unlimited.

1:20:40

And I just encourage you to just stay

1:20:40

the course and just anticipate you'll

1:20:46

just be doing this medicine temporarily.

1:20:52

All right. Anybody else got anything on that? We got the next question here.

1:20:58

What do you think about the

1:20:58

horrendous claims that carnivore

1:21:01

lessens your life expectancy? My family has been telling me it

1:21:03

doesn't matter how healthy I have

1:21:08

become. That's the easiest question to answer.

1:21:13

Number one, what study

1:21:13

did they get that from?

1:21:16

And we already know there is no study.

1:21:18

And the one study we have

1:21:18

20, 29 people, 2, 029 people.

1:21:26

So if they search carnivore trowel

1:21:26

and that, even though that's a

1:21:33

survey study, everybody got better.

1:21:36

So I need to find the study

1:21:36

that shows that's true.

1:21:40

And I think that I would print that study.

1:21:43

I would search that study. And I would print it and say, this is

1:21:45

what we do know about or right now.

1:21:47

And it looks like everything got better.

1:21:50

So I don't know where this life

1:21:50

expectancy thing comes from.

1:21:55

I would remind them that there

1:21:55

are some people on the planet

1:21:59

who have done really well. And we, most of us are familiar with the

1:22:00

Mansa tribe and think in Kenya, Africa.

1:22:06

Some of us have where the

1:22:06

Inuit, the to Eskimos they do

1:22:12

pretty good just eating fish. And the buffalo, I think the

1:22:15

Mansau tribe, they do pretty good.

1:22:19

And when you measure their

1:22:19

metabolic markers that would impact

1:22:22

longevity, they do pretty good. So I think that, I hate to say fake

1:22:23

news, but it sounds like fake news.

1:22:30

And I think when people make statements,

1:22:30

you just want them to at least say, number

1:22:34

one, where did you get that information?

1:22:37

I would love to see that study. Number two, What do you tell a

1:22:39

person who's like myself and and my

1:22:45

friend here who had irritable bowel?

1:22:48

If I eat foods that irritate

1:22:48

me, I will be harmed by that.

1:22:54

When I do carnivore, I

1:22:54

don't feel irritated.

1:22:57

So would you want me to return to

1:22:57

that life where I feel like I'm

1:23:02

unhappy and my stomach's unhappy?

1:23:05

Or do you want me to stay in this place? Most importantly, is it a good

1:23:08

idea to legislate what Our

1:23:14

friends and family should eat. I think that's thank you so much.

1:23:19

Why would we legislate that? We wouldn't.

1:23:21

So Dr. Sean Baker and others are going to do

1:23:23

more studies, but as you can see in

1:23:25

front of you, this is all we have that

1:23:25

I'm aware of that's for carnivore.

1:23:30

And so far, if you read that study, right?

1:23:34

And I think I even did a video about

1:23:34

this on 8A Fox's YouTube channel.

1:23:39

We talked about this study. It's looking pretty good, guys.

1:23:43

So far, based on what we currently

1:23:43

know, and this is when we do rely

1:23:47

on observational studies, we rely on

1:23:47

observational studies, which are survey

1:23:52

data mining studies when we don't

1:23:52

have randomized controlled trials.

1:23:56

So that's what I would say to them. I would get that study, put it in front

1:23:57

of them and say, Hey, I, it's not, I'm

1:24:02

not just listening to these social media

1:24:02

people, rather they're a doctor or not.

1:24:10

There's a little science

1:24:10

to support this belief.

1:24:12

And I feel great and isn't that all you

1:24:12

would want for me as a family member, as

1:24:19

a friend, for me to feel great and the

1:24:19

results of that study contrary to common

1:24:25

expectations, adults consuming a carnivore

1:24:25

diet experience low adverse effects

1:24:35

and, instead reported health benefits.

1:24:39

Oh, wow. And high satisfaction.

1:24:43

Breaking news. Yeah. Breaking news,

1:24:45

man. They're feeling good, man. Their relationships are

1:24:47

better than ever, man.

1:24:50

They're getting hit on by

1:24:50

people of the opposite sex, man.

1:24:53

Breaking news, man. Carnivores are thriving.

1:24:57

Exactly. And give them grace because they

1:24:59

have, they're doing this out of love.

1:25:03

They're doing it because they care about you. They're doing it because they

1:25:05

think this is what's best for you.

1:25:08

But the experiment you've done

1:25:08

on your own body proves that

1:25:11

maybe this is a better approach.

1:25:15

So I love it. So thank you for sharing that.

1:25:18

My friend, appreciate you.

1:25:20

It won't let me

1:25:20

put the link in the chat.

1:25:22

Every time I put it there, it pops out.

1:25:24

Yeah. But I will put that link in the

1:25:25

description of this live when

1:25:30

we're done so that people have it. And anybody that wants Dr.

1:25:34

Hampton's link tree, that is also

1:25:34

in the description of this live.

1:25:38

So you can go in there and you can find

1:25:38

all his links to follow him, absolutely.

1:25:43

And then I got everybody's channels

1:25:43

scroll on across the bottom here.

1:25:47

If you can give these guys a a

1:25:47

subscribe give them a follow.

1:25:50

I'd appreciate it. Let me figure out where I'm at here.

1:25:56

Anybody got any comments on that before I move on?

1:25:59

I would just say that what Dr.

1:26:02

Hampton was just saying is just so

1:26:02

powerful for people that I think

1:26:06

it's really going to resonate

1:26:07

with people that. You just,

1:26:09

when people, when someone

1:26:09

says to you, a family member

1:26:12

or loved one or whatever says

1:26:12

to you, why are you doing this?

1:26:14

You're going to get heart disease

1:26:14

or whatever for you to just say to

1:26:18

them that, look at everything I'm

1:26:18

improving and how I was before.

1:26:24

That's just so powerful. I'm glad that you talked

1:26:26

that way about that. That's a bad thing to say.

1:26:31

No matter what they say, but you're

1:26:32

just eating meat. I know. You've lost a bunch of weight, but there's

1:26:34

always a but though, like I know you don't

1:26:38

have sleep apnea anymore but what, man?

1:26:42

Yeah. I tell people, I'm like, look, I

1:26:42

don't, I no longer have diabetic,

1:26:45

no longer have fatty liver. I, my blood pressure's

1:26:47

the best it's ever been.

1:26:49

I've lost 80 pounds and

1:26:49

continuing to lose weight.

1:26:52

I don't starve myself. I eat till I'm full.

1:26:55

What else do you expect? That's a pretty healthy living right

1:26:56

there, and you're worried about whether or

1:26:59

not I'm eating red meat, but you're just

1:27:01

eating meat, John carnivore, but

1:27:01

there's always a carnivore, but man, I,

1:27:06

that's the one thing I don't like, man. I, I noticed too.

1:27:10

I think it's funny. Any other diet or food I mentioned eating.

1:27:14

It never gets any flack, but as

1:27:14

soon as I mentioned the carnivore

1:27:17

diet, everybody turns into a dietary

1:27:20

expert,

1:27:20

no matter where I am.

1:27:22

If you went vegan, they wouldn't have a problem. No, nobody's an expert then.

1:27:27

You just eat all meat,

1:27:27

everybody turns into an expert.

1:27:29

And it's a nutrient

1:27:29

deficient diet by definition.

1:27:34

If I only eat carbs, and I eliminate those

1:27:34

other macronutrients you find in meat.

1:27:40

That are more bioavailable that don't

1:27:40

have anti nutrients in them that are

1:27:44

not considered toxic because there

1:27:44

are certain plants that are toxic.

1:27:48

They don't question that, and that's

1:27:48

because we live in a bubble where the

1:27:52

world thinks that's a better, this

1:27:52

Blue Zones, I made a Blue Zones video.

1:27:57

Everybody in the Blue Zones eats meat. It's all a farce, and

1:27:59

we don't have an agenda.

1:28:03

But you can't put out, Dan Buettner,

1:28:03

who put out the Blue Zones on

1:28:07

Netflix, if you haven't seen that. You can't put out information

1:28:09

that's false, and then expect

1:28:13

people not to push back. I'm okay with you saying I think

1:28:15

a plant lean is better for you.

1:28:19

But then to say that the Blue Zone's

1:28:19

success is based on plants is a lie.

1:28:26

Because they all eat meat. And even the Seventh Day Adventists,

1:28:28

only 15 percent are vegan.

1:28:33

Let's not... Yeah, let's not keep putting

1:28:34

out false information.

1:28:36

That's why we're important because

1:28:36

we're here to provide clarity and

1:28:40

then you can look it up yourself. If somebody doesn't believe what I

1:28:42

just said, you can just look up vegan

1:28:46

diet, seven day, you can say seven day

1:28:46

Adventist dietary pattern and it'll just

1:28:52

pop up on the internet and you'll see

1:28:52

that they own they promote plant based.

1:28:57

But only 15 percent are vegan.

1:28:59

The rest eat either fish, chicken,

1:28:59

and and we need to, that way you won't

1:29:04

get locked into this bubble where

1:29:04

you think that's the only way to be

1:29:07

healthy, cause that's just false.

1:29:11

Absolutely. All right.

1:29:15

Let's. Get this next question here.

1:29:19

What do you think is the

1:29:19

ideal diet for children?

1:29:24

My one year old son is carnivore and

1:29:24

my daughter, three year old, fluctuates

1:29:28

between low carb and mostly carnivore.

1:29:31

She's picky.

1:29:35

Haha. And give her a kiss from all of us.

1:29:38

An appropriate uncle kiss. Yeah, I think, I think there are certain

1:29:41

things that we all should be avoiding.

1:29:47

And I think we all are

1:29:47

aware what those things are.

1:29:49

We should avoid excessive sugar.

1:29:53

I would say sugar in general. We should avoid seed oils.

1:29:57

High fructose corn syrup is the worst

1:29:57

artificial sweetener on the planet.

1:30:03

So I would avoid that and

1:30:03

most artificial sweeteners.

1:30:06

But, I want to say that

1:30:06

with a caveat, like when Dr.

1:30:09

Eric Westman treats his patients.

1:30:12

And they can have artificial sweeteners,

1:30:12

they will still achieve their goals.

1:30:17

So there's an ideal and

1:30:17

then there's reasonable.

1:30:20

I tend to be an allulose, monk

1:30:20

fruit, and a stevia proponent, but

1:30:26

there's still, things that you add. I prefer we just eat natural foods.

1:30:30

But, so I would say processed foods,

1:30:30

the things I've just mentioned,

1:30:35

and What's the ideal diet?

1:30:37

I think your baby, your babies,

1:30:37

just like us, need essential amino

1:30:43

acids and essential fatty acids. So that's why I feel that even they

1:30:44

would do just fine on a low carb keto or

1:30:51

carnivore diet, because they're getting

1:30:51

the essential nutrients they need.

1:30:56

They have a little bit more. They're like Dr. Paul Saladino.

1:30:59

They're very active. They have really good metabolic

1:31:01

health, so when they deviate from

1:31:05

that, because they're not diabetic

1:31:05

and hypertensive, they're not going

1:31:09

to be harmed by that banana like

1:31:09

a person who's diabetic, right?

1:31:13

You give them a little

1:31:13

bit more wiggle room.

1:31:15

When they have their activities

1:31:15

where they're being exposed to

1:31:19

foods that you're not controlling,

1:31:19

we're going to give them grace.

1:31:23

We're not going to freak out about that.

1:31:26

We don't want to be on the

1:31:26

extremes like the vegan who,

1:31:28

can't wear leather shoes, right? Or the carnivore who, if you didn't kill

1:31:30

the meat yourself, you're not a carnivore.

1:31:35

We don't want to go to the extremes, right? We just want to live in a

1:31:37

world where we're reasonable.

1:31:39

And what, and on what planet would

1:31:39

a baby not do well eating if they're

1:31:45

keto, a steak and some asparagus?

1:31:49

On what planet is that unhealthy? And I just, on what planet do

1:31:51

they have to eat a slice of cake?

1:31:56

Not the one that Maria Emmerich would

1:31:56

show us how to make, but just a slice of

1:31:59

cake that's made with a lot of sugar and

1:31:59

flour, where that's essential to life.

1:32:03

So I think we have to, when people

1:32:03

push back, we have to say, so what in

1:32:08

this diet do you consider unhealthy? And why do they have to eat other

1:32:10

things that are not really real food?

1:32:14

If I eat a bagel, it's just flour.

1:32:17

So why would I then

1:32:17

consider that real food?

1:32:19

And why would I then want

1:32:19

to feed my babies fake food?

1:32:23

when I'm sitting around eating real food.

1:32:26

And when my kids ate this way,

1:32:26

although they're 24 and 26 now,

1:32:31

the grades literally went up an

1:32:31

entire point for both of them.

1:32:36

So if you want a child that's, for

1:32:36

lack of better words, killing the

1:32:40

other kids in terms of success, you put

1:32:40

them on a keto kind of a diet, they're

1:32:46

likely to thrive in ways that the

1:32:46

other kids can't, because they're going

1:32:50

to have better focus, concentration. Memory, and they're going

1:32:53

to be sitting in class.

1:32:55

Everybody else run into lunch and

1:32:55

they're like, Oh, it's time for lunch.

1:32:58

They're not even gonna be thinking about lunch because they're eating a well formulated, Dr.

1:33:03

Kimberry, proper human diet, and

1:33:03

that's the world I want to live

1:33:07

in, where our kids are thriving

1:33:07

and eating the right food, and I

1:33:11

think once you see those benefits,

1:33:11

there's no need to, you can ignore

1:33:15

the noise that's gonna surround you. Just to piggyback

1:33:19

off that, I've got a son who's

1:33:19

still in diapers, and now that he's

1:33:21

leaning more towards the carnivore diet,

1:33:21

we give him an option, and he goes...

1:33:25

towards the carnivore, but I've noticed

1:33:25

he has practically no diaper rash anymore.

1:33:31

And when he used to eat these little

1:33:31

they're like little plastic packs,

1:33:34

veggie packs, and they'd have like

1:33:34

grains and other things mixed in there.

1:33:39

He not only would get diaper

1:33:39

rash, but it'd take almost

1:33:42

like a week for it to go away. And now that he's eating mostly carnivore,

1:33:43

I, we barely use any cream anymore.

1:33:48

He's just getting no diaper rash. So I just wanted to put that out there for

1:33:50

people who I do think it is healthy for

1:33:54

the kids. Absolutely.

1:33:56

And the stuff that's in those things, it

1:33:56

could be some people don't tolerate dairy.

1:34:01

The additives, we can

1:34:01

talk about that all day.

1:34:04

That's an entire podcast, right? When you clean, when you do this

1:34:06

elimination diet and you clean up all the

1:34:11

nonsense that they put in boxes and in

1:34:11

those foods, then your body heals and the

1:34:18

things that caused irritation go away.

1:34:20

All of that irritation is from

1:34:20

inflammation from the things that

1:34:23

shouldn't have been inflammation. And your babies died in the first place.

1:34:27

And that's a huge, those little minor

1:34:27

things that improve in your life.

1:34:31

This is an example. Our game changes, a miserable child

1:34:32

makes the entire house miserable.

1:34:37

Yeah. So I'm happy you guys figured that out.

1:34:43

Any other comments from the table? All right, let's look at this one.

1:34:49

The water here in Brazil that

1:34:49

I buy has fluoride in it, and

1:34:53

I know fluoride is bad for us. What do you think?

1:34:55

Should I stop buying the water?

1:34:58

Yeah here's

1:34:58

another nuanced question.

1:35:02

We know that fluoride has some

1:35:02

toxic effects on the body.

1:35:09

We also know that fluoride

1:35:09

can help to prevent cavities.

1:35:15

So that's a conundrum.

1:35:18

What some people have done is if

1:35:18

they want, some people just say no

1:35:23

fluoride and they're done, right? And even the fluoride, the toothpaste I

1:35:25

use can't think of the name right now,

1:35:29

but I have a non fluorinated toothpaste.

1:35:32

It's more of a natural toothpaste

1:35:32

because I think in life you're

1:35:35

trying to remove toxins.

1:35:38

One of the previous guests I had on my

1:35:38

podcast, her book is called Dirty Girl.

1:35:44

I know that sounds a little

1:35:44

spicy for us guys, right?

1:35:48

And when I searched dirty

1:35:48

girl, the wrong stuff pops up.

1:35:51

So when you go to Amazon, make sure

1:35:51

dirty girl book, so you won't get in

1:35:56

trouble with your significant other. But she teaches us how to start

1:35:58

detoxifying brothers, the water, the air.

1:36:02

And 1 of the things she

1:36:02

talks about is our fluoride.

1:36:07

What some people have done, they

1:36:07

will say, I'm going to when I see my

1:36:11

dentist, I may get my fluoride pasted

1:36:11

on my teeth because I think it's

1:36:17

helpful if that's what they believe.

1:36:20

And then they won't have fluorinated

1:36:20

water that way to get the benefit

1:36:23

without getting the overexposure. Other people just go all the way

1:36:25

out and say, I'm done with fluoride.

1:36:28

So I do agree that I've seen studies that

1:36:28

showed if too much fluoride is toxic.

1:36:33

But I've also seen kids who don't

1:36:33

then have the proper human diet.

1:36:38

They have problems with cavities. I think if you have a proper human

1:36:40

diet, Like we're talking about today,

1:36:44

you probably are going to have great

1:36:44

intention in, oh, I'm just going to

1:36:47

say healthy teeth because I can't

1:36:47

seem to pronounce that word right now.

1:36:50

But but that's what I would do. I would make a decision about how

1:36:52

much exposure I'm going to give.

1:36:57

And it could be if it's just

1:36:57

a dental pasting and no, but

1:37:00

I would be leery of drinking

1:37:00

fluorinated water every single day.

1:37:04

There you go. You're good, man. Thank God you saved me.

1:37:09

So you see a real person. She has clothes on.

1:37:15

And don't Google it, fellas. Yeah, do it the right way.

1:37:18

Put the whole title. And she's a functional medicine clinician.

1:37:23

Very smart. I did a episode. So if you want to learn more,

1:37:25

just type Wendy Trubo, right?

1:37:29

Put her name and my name on YouTube. You can listen to that,

1:37:31

but she's really good.

1:37:33

That's a great, like practical

1:37:33

book on how to approach detox.

1:37:38

Cause so what we're trying to do

1:37:38

guys is we're saying, we talked

1:37:42

about what the voice sugar processed

1:37:42

food, seed oils, too many grains,

1:37:46

but then what you want to do is you

1:37:46

mastered your carnivore or keto diet.

1:37:52

What? What's next? And the next thing may be my nest.

1:37:55

Let's master sleep and stress

1:37:55

and recover from trauma.

1:37:59

Think properly. We by talking, listening to us,

1:38:01

you become a positive thinker.

1:38:05

And then what's next? And then you say maybe I

1:38:06

thought about getting a filter.

1:38:09

I can't afford a filter for my house. Let me get a filter, a Brita

1:38:11

filter, something I can, when I

1:38:14

go to work, I'll have something. And then you say, ah, my

1:38:16

toothpaste, ah, my deodorant,

1:38:18

whatever it is you want to do. You want to remove toxins

1:38:20

just to increase, going back

1:38:25

to the Blue Zones concept. So you want to be a centenarian, right?

1:38:28

You just remove the things that

1:38:28

cause harm, add the things that help,

1:38:33

and then you just roll your dice.

1:38:36

You may go outside and some knucklehead

1:38:36

hits you upside the head and it's over.

1:38:39

We don't know. But what we want to do is maximize the

1:38:40

chance that if that knucklehead comes

1:38:44

around you, you'll be looking like Anthony

1:38:44

Chafee and you'll have exactly like JT

1:38:50

and you'll be able to handle that moment. You'll have mental clarity.

1:38:54

You'll be a little stronger. And if you need to, or even if it's

1:38:55

just a run, you'll be in a better

1:38:58

position to be on the planet longer.

1:39:00

And that's how I would approach it. What's a good book you're reading, man.

1:39:08

Don't do that to me. I'll be honest.

1:39:11

It's not what you would think. Because I'm learning a lot about.

1:39:15

health equity right now. The title eludes me, but I'm reading

1:39:17

about health equity because what I'm

1:39:20

trying to do within my health system

1:39:20

is figure out how do we help our health

1:39:26

system make health care more equitable.

1:39:30

And so that's where I'm focused right now.

1:39:32

So that may not be the kind of book

1:39:32

the average person wants to read,

1:39:35

but that's what I'm doing right now. Got richest Man who ever lived.

1:39:39

I like that Richest man.

1:39:42

I like that Kings. That's a good book. I'm reading it too.

1:39:44

Nice. I'll put that on my list guys.

1:39:47

Yeah, I'd just like to see what people are reading. I may be doing a audio.

1:39:51

I tend to, I have a long commute,

1:39:51

about a 45 minutes or so, so I

1:39:54

tend to do a lot of audio books. Yeah, check

1:39:57

that one out. I actually got your book.

1:39:59

Dr. Tony on audio to play after I

1:39:59

finished the one I'm on so cool

1:40:06

Yes, all right guys look we are an hour

1:40:06

and 47 minutes into this and I respect

1:40:11

everybody's time here so If you've got

1:40:11

any more questions, you've got three

1:40:16

to four minutes to get them posted up. I got four questions on the board

1:40:20

I'll try to make the responses quick

1:40:23

and then after I'm going to

1:40:23

give you about three, four minutes

1:40:26

and then any questions that come

1:40:26

in after that may or may not get

1:40:29

answered depending on where we're at. If you've got a burning question

1:40:31

that you need answered, you

1:40:33

need to get it posted quickly.

1:40:36

All right, let's. Move on to this one here bypass carnivore

1:40:38

off all meds, except water pill.

1:40:43

Is there a reason to prescribe both last?

1:40:47

I'm not

1:40:48

lasting out that tone

1:40:50

and how I come off of them. Every time I try my legs

1:40:52

blow up twice the size.

1:40:56

Is it safe to try to come off?

1:40:59

Yeah they will

1:40:59

prescribe those together for one

1:41:02

reason, potassium, the Lasix make

1:41:02

you get rid of potassium and the

1:41:07

aldactone make you retain potassium.

1:41:10

So they're trying to balance it out. The best way to come off, of course,

1:41:12

is to again, we're saying that

1:41:16

the keto and carnivore diet will

1:41:16

make you get rid of fluid, right?

1:41:21

And your biggest problem

1:41:21

is a fluid problem.

1:41:23

So again, this is going

1:41:23

so we can either yeah.

1:41:26

If we get rid of the poison, the carbs

1:41:26

make you hold on to salt and water.

1:41:30

So if you get rid of the carbs,

1:41:30

that's going to be way more

1:41:33

effective than LASIK and Aldactone.

1:41:35

So while you're on LASIK and Aldactone,

1:41:35

it makes sense to do both together.

1:41:40

Some people will just do LASIK and

1:41:40

a potassium supplement, but they

1:41:44

probably felt like it would be nice to

1:41:44

have another kind of water pill that

1:41:48

will also help remove the water while

1:41:48

keeping you from losing potassium.

1:41:53

If you do a carnivore keto

1:41:53

diet, And you're effective

1:41:58

and you're doing it properly. I think that you will eventually

1:42:00

get to the point where you

1:42:04

may not need to lay six. I take people off late six so

1:42:05

often that it becomes normal.

1:42:09

That's what I would focus on. And you just have to work with your

1:42:11

condition and say, Hey I'm doing better.

1:42:14

My pressures last my swellings last.

1:42:17

Can you work with me to

1:42:17

reduce the dose over time?

1:42:20

And if you do that, you'll be fine. But I think it's okay to take

1:42:21

both together because they're working slightly differently to

1:42:23

keep your potassium in check.

1:42:28

Excellent. All right. Next question we got here.

1:42:31

As the chef in the house, seasonings

1:42:31

are a big piece of my life.

1:42:35

How big of a deal are you using

1:42:35

things like basil, garlic,

1:42:38

mustard, Old Bay seasoning? Tony Creel

1:42:44

seizing. I'm not familiar with

1:42:45

that, but I need to be. I may be.

1:42:47

I need some some of that

1:42:47

residual since my name.

1:42:53

Here's another commentary

1:42:53

on the kind of for a coat.

1:42:57

We know that the people we love, like Dr.

1:43:01

Anthony Chafee is more of a purist. And then we have Dr.

1:43:04

Paul Saladino, who's

1:43:04

obviously Doing other things.

1:43:09

So my answer to this is if you do an

1:43:09

elimination diet, which is worth a perfect

1:43:14

elimination diet, and then you if you're

1:43:14

one of those people who are not like Dr.

1:43:20

Anthony Chafee, and you don't want

1:43:20

to do beef, salt and water, right?

1:43:24

Then you add basil.

1:43:29

And when you do elimination

1:43:29

diets, you add something.

1:43:32

And we know basil, These

1:43:32

plants have issues.

1:43:35

Plants are trying to kill us is what Dr. Anthony Jaffe.

1:43:38

But for some people, plants

1:43:38

are not killing them.

1:43:41

It's that hormesis, that making me, you

1:43:41

challenge me and you make me stronger

1:43:47

is a real thing for some people, not

1:43:47

necessarily for people with irritable

1:43:51

bowel like me and my friend here, right? We just don't tolerate stuff.

1:43:55

But if you're a person who asked the

1:43:55

basal back and over three days, you

1:44:01

noticed things are okay, and there

1:44:01

is a functional medicine, elimination

1:44:05

diet, PDF that you can search for. And it gives you an idea

1:44:07

of what I'm talking about. That person can then tolerate basal.

1:44:13

So I would do it that way because we're

1:44:13

not trying to go to the extremes because

1:44:17

what do we gain by going to the extremes?

1:44:19

Will basal raise your blood

1:44:19

sugar and cause hyperinsulinemia?

1:44:22

No. So if our goal is to just be metabolically

1:44:23

healthy, you can play around with

1:44:28

seasonings, but I would try to experiment.

1:44:31

I don't know how that would taste if you

1:44:31

just do basil on something only, but you

1:44:35

want to play with it to see what your body

1:44:35

tolerates, and as long as you tolerate

1:44:39

it and you want to have a little more

1:44:39

variety in your life, I think that's okay.

1:44:44

Taco seasoning. Same thing, man, but that's

1:44:45

got a lot of stuff in it.

1:44:48

Amen. I know that's why I'm asking. Yeah, you can do that.

1:44:50

Yeah. If you tolerate that's a little bit

1:44:51

more of a gamble because it's got

1:44:53

multiple things, but absolutely. What's your background?

1:44:56

Are you a Latin American? No, I'm

1:44:59

a, I guess German. I've never been to Germany,

1:45:00

so I always say I'm American.

1:45:03

Okay, cool. I just check it. All right.

1:45:06

All right. I Redman's taco seasoning

1:45:06

salt, which has got zero

1:45:11

carb.

1:45:12

Oh, I didn't know they had learned something

1:45:13

there. I didn't even know that either, man. And Redmond's, they got those that,

1:45:15

you know, again, because their

1:45:18

salt comes from the right place. It's got the minerals, it's got

1:45:20

the potassiums and things in

1:45:23

it that Morton's doesn't have.

1:45:25

So I'm going to check that out. And again, that's why toothpaste

1:45:29

too. And even the rest of my

1:45:30

family. Yeah. Someone in the chat said the

1:45:31

Redmond's makes a toothpaste too.

1:45:34

That's crazy. Not sure what's

1:45:35

in it, but they said they make it. That's crazy.

1:45:38

I was going to say even the

1:45:38

rest of my family that is not eating

1:45:41

carnivore they liked the taco seasoning

1:45:41

to have with their, it's just as