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Welcome to Car Stuff, a production

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of I Heart Radio. Hello,

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and Welcome to car Stuff. I'm your host, Scott Benjamin,

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and I'm Ben Bullin and I am Kurt

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Garen. Hey, guys, you know what, today, let's do something

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just a little bit different than what we normally do.

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I know, we like to you know, dig into

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uh you know, like maybe a make

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or model or you know, something like that, or we

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talk about the history of a person. But

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today I would like to kind of talk about our garages,

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if that's okay with you. Oh, this

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is interesting to me, Scott, because

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you know, my friend that I like

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seventeen percent of the US

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population currently live

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in an apartment where

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I do not have a garage, but I have some plans.

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Yeah, I'd love I'd love to talk about this because

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you know what, I miss my

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garage, having a living in a house.

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The best thing about it

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was that space. Yeah.

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Yeah. And it can be a nice

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place to go sometimes. I mean it can actually be

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kind of laxing. It can be calming, and

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it could it could be the other as well. It can also

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be infuriating. And I

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had a garage for a while that was infuriating

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to me. It made me just kind of tense to

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be out there, and it was because it was so crowded.

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It was like the lighting was terrible. Um,

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just it was not a great place to be. I was

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cold in the winter, it was hot in the summer.

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I still got a couple of these issues going on. Don't get

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me wrong, But I've done some things recently that

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I think we're really

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you know, some fantastic improvements and

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cheap you know, things that I could just do simply that

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helped out a lot. And I think if you know, anybody out

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there has got a similar situation where you know,

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it's not the most comfortable place in the world to be

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out there in the garage. But if

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you have something like that going on, there's some things

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that you can do to make it a better place for you

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and make you want to go out there and make you want to take

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on those projects you know that you might not have done in the

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past. So I don't know, I just find

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it very therapeutic to go out there now and

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just kind of, you know, spend a little time sorting,

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organizing, straightening, you know, working on some

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things. You know, whatever it happened is to be it's a nice

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place to be now. And again, I've got some things

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that I you'll need to do, and we can talk about what

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I haven't done yet versus what I have

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done. But there's a lot of really simple things

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that just about anybody can do with

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either zero money, which is you know,

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the best price or um, you

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know you can find yeah, you know,

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real bargains, I guess bargain ways to do this.

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So what we're not doing today is

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we're not talking about, you know, these million

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dollar upgraded garages that

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we've you know, we've all seen on um, you know online.

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Of course you do a keyword search for you know,

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expensive garage options or you know whatever.

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You're gonna find people that have elevators

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to a second level in their garage, you know, and

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they're gonna have um, I don't

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know, they're gonna have priceless works

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of art hanging on the wall, you know, with I guess

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art gallery lighting all around it. And I

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think we're at Another

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example would be those really

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cool parking spots that recess

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into the ground. Yes, that's what I'm talking about,

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and we're not talking about those today.

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Oh they are, they're really those are really cool

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and I think We've done another episode on some some

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outlandish garages. Yeah, we have that type

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of thing. So what I'd like to do is maybe

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talk about making your garage a a functional

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place versus you know, having kind

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of like a show garage. I guess where you know

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you have friends over and you've got a couch out there

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and stuff like that, you know, a big screen TV on

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the wall. We're not talking about stuff like that. We want to we

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want to make it something that you know, you're

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comfortable to go out there and work on your projects

3:26

or whatever. You can even take other stuff from the house

3:28

and work out there on your workbench, and you've got space

3:30

to do it. A workspace, a workspace, yeah,

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comfortable workspace. Yeah.

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I proposed that we start at

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the beginning. When most

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people move into a house,

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you know, you'll find several areas

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of the house that tend to be a little rough

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around the edges, where they tend to be unfinished.

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You know, sometimes in the suburbs, these are called like

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bonus rooms. Right, We'll have an unfinished

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attict, you'll have a basement

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that still has a dirt floor, things like that.

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Yeah, the garage is often

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one of those spaces. The garage is

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the most likely to just be

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a room, and who knows what condition

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the door is in. Right, So

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for a lot of people when

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they move in, if they're gonna start building their garage

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from the ground up, they

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look at two huge things,

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the door and the floor. These can

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get expensive, right, But there

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are some very

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reasonable things you can do, even a little

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bit kind of d I Y style, to

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give your garage some

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insulation. Because that's one of the things that stuck

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out to me when you were talking about this in the beginning. You

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said, sometimes garage is too hot, too

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cold. It's weird because

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I've seen more kind of clutter

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stuffy garages that I have operational

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ones. Kurt and I were talking

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about this earlier off air, of

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course, we were talking about how it

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seems like a lot of garages don't

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really get a car parked in them ever.

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I mean a lot of people just simply use it for

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storage. I mean, or there is a car under

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there somewhere. Uh, you know that that at

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one time was a project or at one time was driving

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or you know whatever, it's grandma's car or whatever, and you

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parked it here, and you left it there and

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you just started piling stuff on top of it, and it

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became the most expensive show.

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It became it became a storage area,

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right, instead of instead of, instead of a car

5:23

storage area, it's a it's a stuff storage area.

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It's like an extension of your basement or your attic

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or whatever. It's where all the things that

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you didn't like enough to

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have in your house but you couldn't

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throw away end up. You know, that's

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exactly right, the limbo. It's the holding

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area. Yeah, like stuff that was in your

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yard that you know you want to bring in from

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the weather mowers or

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at least these days more and more garages

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seemed to be just like a catch

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all of storage. And I

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have a I have a point I want to make about

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that real quick. It's a larger

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philosophical point, and it doesn't have

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a huge role to play in today's episode. But

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I think a big reason that a lot

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of that clutter begins

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to acrete is it's

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twofold. First. Many

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of us, unfortunately, when

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we are doing a task at home,

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whether it's auto repair, whether it's yardwork

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or something like that, we tend to think

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of the task just as us

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accomplishing the thing so you're tilling

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the yard, right, or you're changing the oil.

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Then once you screw that oil filter

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back on and once you put the new

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oil in the system, then a lot

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of us tend to think, well, the

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job is pretty much done. Let

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me just you know, seal up the

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container I have for the old oil. Let me

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just put it somewhere because I'm quote

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unquote done, So I'm going to take care of

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all this stuff later. And

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then that's how we end up just throwing

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stuff willy nilly into a garage. And

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then once you have a small

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pile of crap somewhere, it

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becomes so much easier to make more small

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piles of crap. Yeah, that's exactly

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what happens. And you know, one of the tips I guess

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that that I've kind of picked up along the way here

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is that, you know, it's great to organize your garage.

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Sure, I mean that, I think we can all agree that, you

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know, a well organized garage is it's

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it's any room actually is better off

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when it's well organized, right, it really is. But

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I have recently reorganized my garage

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and kind of figured out where everything goes and got things

7:24

kind of you know, clustered together where they should be. The

7:26

chemicals in one area, you know that, the electrical

7:28

stuff in one box over here. You know, I know where

7:30

everything is and I can I can easily lay

7:32

my hands on everything. The problem is that

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if you don't do that about twice a year, you're

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gonna fall behind. And it's the truth.

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I mean, it's just what you said. Like where you know, you start

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gathering more things and putting things in front of

7:44

other things, and it blocks your view,

7:46

it blocks your access to those items,

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and you know, things get a little dirtier because you don't

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pick it up to you know, clean underneath it or whatever,

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and you know it's just snowballs. The whole

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problem starts to snowball. But you have to if

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you do maintain garage that is well organized.

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I mean, I really do feel like it's just an easier

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place to go and access whatever you

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need because you know right where it is. I mean,

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it's it's it's been so helpful to me to be able

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to do this recently that I had some time

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that I was able to straighten everything up and

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again I can just go in there right now and I

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could access anything that I need. I know, exactly

8:19

where it is. And that's so helpful because

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before it was kind of scattered all over the place. It might be

8:23

in the basement, it might be you know, out

8:25

back on the porch, might you know, who knows where it would

8:28

be. Right, So now I can go in there and

8:30

I feel like I can put my hands on anything that

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I need to right away. And it's very

8:34

very helpful. So you know, I think I derailedy

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here on the on the installation. We

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were talking about installation, right, Yeah, this is a very

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easy d I Y project.

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This is for the giant door, right right.

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This is for the child door. First off, make

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sure the door works. You know, there's

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there's just nothing sadder than driving

8:53

by a house and you see the busty garage door because

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it's one of those things that people don't really want to fix

8:58

because it can be a pain. Right. It's

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the it's isn't it. I think the garage door is the largest

9:03

movable object in your house. I think, yeah,

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I think it is. Yeah, it weighs a ton, right, I mean it's

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it's and it's all resting on that one

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little motor that's up there in the center of the

9:13

center of the ceiling. Yeah, so that thing gets a

9:15

lot of work, it does. Yeah. So

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garage door manufacturers have

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found that if you insulate

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your garage door, it's gonna be

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about twelve degrees warmer fahrenheit.

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It's nothing crazy. In the winter months

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in about twenty five degrees cooler. In

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summer cooler. I could use

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cooler out there, yeah, yeah, because weird Georgia.

9:38

Yeah. So one thing, one thing

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that sneak about this is that unlike

9:43

installing a garage door, it's

9:45

pretty easy to insulate a garage

9:47

door on your own yourself. Well, it's

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very easy actually, and they make kits even

9:52

for this if you want to buy a kit, or you could just simply

9:54

do it yourself, right, I mean, there's there's like three types

9:57

of installation that you can buy. Can either do

9:59

the bat type, which is kind of like the I

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don't know, I guess that's the stuff that you see on new

10:04

build homes, you know, like the stuff they roll out in between the

10:06

walls. It's flexible, it's you know, they got

10:08

the paperbacking. It's the least expensive

10:11

option out of these, and these are all very

10:13

low dollar things to it. There's also a foam

10:15

board that you can buy that's that's cut

10:18

for the panels specifically, or you can cut it yourself,

10:20

custom cut it. There's also reflective,

10:22

is that the yellow foam with the reflective

10:25

film over it? Yeah, it's like silver looking

10:27

off to me. That would be crazy

10:30

distracting in the garage, you know, to have something that's

10:32

like reflective like that, especially if you have a work

10:34

light on and it's bouncing off

10:36

the work like. Yeah, I mean, but hey, maybe

10:38

that works right, Maybe that's good. Yeah, maybe it's

10:41

maybe it's a benefit to have a reflective

10:43

garage door on the inside. But either

10:45

way, I mean, like you said, Ben, I had no idea

10:47

that the temperature swing could be so great just

10:49

by insulating the door. I mean, it makes sense. It's just

10:52

a piece of metal that is between

10:54

you and outside, and it doesn't count the windows,

10:57

it doesn't count any other installation. Just doing

10:59

that to the or will end up

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saving money, Yeah yeah, I will. I

11:03

mean, but it just makes it again, like everything

11:05

else that we're gonna talk about today, I hope, I

11:08

will just make it more pleasant to be out there,

11:10

a little bit more pleasant time. Now I've in

11:12

my own garage, I haven't done insulation yet. That's

11:14

one of the things that I haven't done. I haven't changed

11:17

the lighting or anything like that yet. I haven't done anything really

11:19

big yet. But these are all low

11:21

dollar things that we can we can talk about, you

11:23

know, the ones that I'm still missing. But I

11:25

will say this that, you know, when I'm

11:27

out there in the summertime, I bring a small fan

11:29

just to like a box fan helps out

11:31

tremendously, just to have something like that in the in

11:33

the space. And that's one thing that I think

11:36

everybody can do that just to make it easier on

11:38

yourself out there. Just it's simple, simple

11:40

thing. Bring a box, Get a little box

11:42

fan from your local department. Go crazy,

11:45

go crazy, get get get a twenty five dollar

11:47

box. Find one at

11:49

a thrift shop or you know whatever. You can get it for three

11:51

bucks. I don't care. But that's one thing you can do. And

11:53

then I've got Also this is also effective.

11:56

And it's a two car garage, so it's it's a bigger

11:58

space. Just a tiny little

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ceramic heater. It's very very small, like it's

12:03

I'm holding my hands out like everybody can see

12:05

this, but it's it's only like about you

12:07

know, eight or twelve inches across, and and you

12:09

know it's like a little cube, right, it's a ceramic

12:12

heater, and the thing really cranks out the

12:14

heat. I mean, it's it's fantastic to use in the garage

12:16

in the wintertime because you can put it right near you without

12:18

the fear of having you know, kind of like an open flame

12:21

anywhere nearby, or any kind of chemicals, like if you

12:23

have a kerosene heater or something like that. So,

12:25

uh, it's it's beneficial to have something

12:27

like this on hand if you're in a colder climate, just a

12:29

really simple plug in ceramic heater,

12:32

and it makes your area so

12:34

much better. It takes a little while to to get it warmed

12:36

up in there. You don't you know, you're not gonna be

12:38

blistering hot or anything like that. But it beats

12:40

back the cold enough that you're able to work

12:42

and you can keep your hands functioning

12:44

because you know, when it gets really really cold and your hands

12:46

don't seem to want to work the right way,

12:49

That's what I felt like anyway, when it gets really really

12:51

cold, like you just can't get your fingers to do

12:53

what you want them to do with you're so cold. And you can't

12:55

wear gloves because you need yeah,

12:58

yeah, either or you'd wear those little thin mechanics

13:00

gloves and those aren't really meant for like warmth

13:03

or anything. I mean they they sell insulated ones.

13:05

But again you've lost all tactle

13:08

sense, you know, so sometimes you need

13:10

that. But yeah, I mean there's just too

13:12

simple, really really inexpensive

13:15

things that you can do that that help out a lot out there.

13:17

I am going to say though again and

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I totally agree with you on this one, Scott, but

13:22

I must point out that

13:25

before you buy any new thing

13:27

for your garage counting

13:29

a car, clean your garage, oh

13:32

yeah, get rid of all this stuff you don't need. Because

13:34

for most people, if you if you look through

13:36

it, you'll find things that you

13:39

you just don't need. You just

13:41

put them somewhere and you forgot about them. A

13:43

lot of people have a half finished project,

13:46

you know, and it can be tough to swallow

13:48

your pride and be honest with yourself and say,

13:50

well, you know, I guess I actually

13:53

don't care as much about

13:55

building this what magtiic airplane?

13:58

Yeah, building this stick

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or whatever? Right, Yeah, it's just somehow like

14:02

if you had a hobby or something, and you've got, you know, all the

14:05

stuff associated with that hobby, but you no longer

14:07

do the hobby, then maybe it's time to get rid of

14:09

it. You got old skis laying around, but you know, like

14:11

we're here in Georgia and rarely

14:14

when you use skis unless you you know, travel with

14:17

them obviously, But things like that just you just

14:19

use common sense. I got rid of a ton of

14:21

stuff in my garage, you know what I find? You know what I

14:23

finally got rid of. It made me feel so good.

14:25

It's like it just helps you feel better, lighter,

14:28

to get rid of all this stuff. I know. So

14:31

do you remember, many many years ago

14:33

we we tore apart that old mg Yes,

14:36

oh boy, yeah, it was a long

14:39

time ago, right, and I think most

14:41

of our listeners have seen photos of us in that thing,

14:43

you know, kind of you know, we were elbow

14:46

deep in that thing for long, right, crawling

14:49

all over it. It was great, though, to completely dismantle

14:51

the car without worrying about

14:53

putting it back together. Funny

14:56

because like broke, Okay, fine, you know,

14:58

it's all right, But all we're doing is to get to

15:00

the parts, so we could then describe the parts and see

15:02

them and you know, like and do that kind

15:04

of thing. Right. We the project ended

15:06

up going nowhere really, I mean it was a

15:08

lot of it was fun. We spent several

15:11

days doing this, but it was kind of a junk. It was

15:13

a junk card up with a ton

15:15

of parts. I got bins and bins and bins

15:18

and parts, you know, like pistons and rings

15:20

and the crank shaft and cam

15:22

shaft and you know, all the stuff. I got all these like heavy

15:24

metal parts I've got. I've got the head sitting

15:27

in a bin. But all that stuff

15:29

has been in my garage for years

15:31

and years, almost a decade almost, Yeah,

15:33

it's been. It's getting close, and um,

15:35

I finally got rid of it. I just took it to I

15:38

tried to get it, you know, to somebody that had

15:40

an MG, and they didn't

15:42

want it. No one wanted the parts. I don't know if they thought

15:44

they were hot or what. No, that wasn't

15:47

that wasn't it. It's just you know, it's very specific and you

15:49

don't know the quality, you know, the condition of all the shore.

15:51

It was actually was remarkably well preserved all

15:53

that stuff because it's all oily and you know, so

15:56

it's it's all plain and it's

15:59

usable. But I could not get anybody to

16:01

take that stuff. So I just finally had to scrap

16:03

some of it. And you know a lot of it was beat

16:05

up in old and bad anyway, so I didn't feel

16:07

too bad about it. But I mean, years and years

16:10

of that stuff sitting around and just taking up

16:12

space. Again, it just feels so

16:14

good to get rid of stuff like that. And

16:16

I got rid of, you know, like a power washer. I got

16:19

rid of, you know, a bunch of stuff that was just clutter

16:21

that's not working anymore. I have to ask, did

16:24

you go did you go to your

16:27

neighborhood rushing landfill

16:30

to get rid of those parts? I did,

16:32

and it's changed hands. Yeah, I don't

16:34

know. Have we talked about this again recently, not

16:38

on air? Okay, I went back. I

16:40

went back again to this. I did go to that place,

16:42

and I made several trips, not

16:45

for just the car parts, but for other stuff I had laying

16:47

around, just you know, scrap metal type things. One

16:49

thing was from the garage door. I had a great big greasy

16:52

bar that was you know, like the main bar that the track

16:54

was on. You know, stuff like that I just had a bunch

16:56

of little things laying around an old gas grill,

16:59

you know, it kind of falling apart as a

17:01

rusty um. But I went there

17:03

and it was it was owned and operated

17:06

by someone new. Now it's not that it's

17:08

not it's not the Russian mafia

17:10

or whoever was running this place before, because

17:12

I really had that strong feeling that that was what

17:14

was going on there. I really did, and we I know, we

17:17

talked about but it's completely different

17:19

now. So, um, it wasn't quite

17:21

a uh, it wasn't. It wasn't as much fun

17:23

as it used to be, you know, like, yeah, it

17:25

wasn't. It wasn't as exciting, Like it wasn't as thrilling

17:28

to go back, you know. But um,

17:31

I don't know. I'm still still good though. Oh can I

17:33

tell you one thing that I think maybe

17:35

I talked Ac Curd about this off air, but

17:38

um, you see crazy things at a junkyard,

17:40

right, So I go there and I threw all

17:43

of my junk, you know, including like an

17:45

old water heater and a gas

17:47

grill. Like I said, all these engine parts and everything,

17:49

I throw them on this pile that is like it's

17:51

the size of like a four story

17:53

house. It's huge, giant junk pile.

17:56

Right, So I back up to it and I, it's gonna heave all

17:58

this stuff over there. And after

18:01

I had driven away and I got

18:03

up to the you know the area where you get paid almost

18:05

nothing for your parts, right, you're for

18:07

you know, the weight of your parts.

18:10

Yeah, I get my my check for ten dollars

18:12

or whatever it was and twenty cents

18:14

I think it was. And this

18:16

is like hundreds of pounds

18:18

of metal. Right. So I look

18:20

back and I swear to it looked

18:22

like I could hardly even see my pile

18:24

of stuff there. That was you know, it's it's taken up

18:26

so much space in my garage, but

18:29

on that pile it looked like nothing. It looked like

18:31

a you know, another grain of sand

18:33

on the beach. It was like that. It was. It was amazing

18:35

how small that pile of stuff was. And then

18:37

I was thinking, okay, well this is got kind of a rough

18:40

edge to it, you know, like it kind of gets strung out over

18:42

the over the lot. So

18:45

a guy gets in this uh, this this crane,

18:47

it's almost like not a I guess

18:49

maybe not a front loader, but it's like a crane

18:52

and it's got a grasping arm like a like a pincher, and

18:55

so they can pick up things and move them. So

18:57

he goes over and and kind of

18:59

motors this thing over to the side, and he picks up

19:01

this ball of iron

19:04

that's like all twisted and tangled up. It looks

19:06

like a Brillo pad, only it's like a

19:08

Brillo pad like the size of like

19:10

too minivans. It's that big,

19:12

right, and he and he like puts that

19:14

on the on the ground and he starts like wildly

19:17

swinging the arm left and left and right,

19:19

and he's using this big massive

19:22

metal as like a broom, and

19:24

he's like sweeping the stuff up onto the pile and

19:26

he would like drag it across and then give

19:28

it kind of like a little up lifted end

19:31

and it would like pick stuff up and kind of throw it

19:33

on the top of the pile. But he was just bizarre.

19:35

It's like it's like they're getting to play

19:37

with these massive toys like that. It

19:39

looks like it looks so much fun to be able

19:41

to do that, and and this this way

19:44

of doing it. I'm sure that other junk heards do the same

19:46

thing. I had never seen this before, and

19:48

that that tangle of metal was so it

19:50

looks so dangerous. So you know, it

19:52

looks like if you got near that thing you would get

19:54

cut. Maybe, yeah, because imagine

19:57

it's moving at speed. Oh yeah, he's like no, I

19:59

mean even even like I didn't even want to approach it,

20:01

like when it was just sitting still, like I didn't want

20:03

even because it looked like um,

20:05

just like a tangle of weeds almost.

20:07

But it's but it's metal. It's like jagged metal,

20:09

you know, and that probably makes it lighter to

20:12

swing. Yeah, So how about this man,

20:14

how about the next time you dropped some

20:16

stuff off there, instead of taking

20:19

a check, you ask if you can take a swing with

20:21

the broom. It's not a bad idea,

20:23

yeah, Like you can keep your ten dollars,

20:25

But let me drive that crane

20:28

for just a few on the crane,

20:30

it looks like so much fun. I mean, it looks like it would

20:32

be a blast. I'm sure it's just another task for them,

20:34

you know, but sure looks that's a crazy

20:36

thing. How quickly the coolest

20:39

stuff becomes normal, you know

20:41

what I mean? Like I was, I

20:43

was, you know, I've been traveling

20:45

a lot I was recently in a plane

20:48

flying over the Pacific last

20:50

week and I

20:52

got irritated because I was trying to work on

20:54

some stuff and I thought, man,

20:57

this WiFi is being slow, and I had to

20:59

pause for a sect it. I was like, Hey, I'm

21:02

flying like

21:04

thousands and thousands of feet in the air

21:06

at this crazy speed. You're going

21:08

like six right, And

21:11

I have the audacity to

21:14

be like to be like, oh no,

21:16

this page is loading slow, you

21:18

know what I mean? It

21:21

is funny, isn't it. How you get like so you you

21:23

jaded, I guess and stuff like that. Yeah,

21:26

you know, and it's really remarkable that you're able to

21:28

do it at all. Really yeah, Oh

21:30

my gosh. Before it waxed

21:32

to philosophic about how ungrateful

21:35

I am as a person in general, I

21:37

want to go back to the point you made

21:39

about getting rid of stuff, because

21:41

I know it's it can be tough for a lot of people

21:43

to hear. And also we're all familiar

21:46

with Tetris, and Tetris

21:48

is such a useful game because

21:50

it shows us the value of

21:53

organizing space and putting things

21:55

where they fit. For a

21:57

lot of people listening today, the problem

22:00

isn't that there's a bunch of stuff that

22:02

they could get rid of and they just haven't. The problem

22:05

is that there's stuff you have to keep

22:07

and you have nowhere else to put it. So

22:10

I want to say, you don't have to throw

22:12

everything in your garage way, really,

22:15

why not just invest in some

22:18

organizational tools? Yeah, and

22:20

you know what, Online is a

22:22

beautiful place to be able to do this because you can you

22:24

can go and to kind of lay out your plans

22:26

or lay out your ideas. And it doesn't

22:28

have to be expensive. I can tell you that. I mean,

22:30

there there are some ridiculously expensive

22:33

cabinets and countertops and all.

22:36

There's there's the opposite end of the spectrum for

22:38

all this stuff. So you

22:40

can get affordable cabinets, you can

22:42

buy pre made shelving, or you can make

22:44

your own. You can you know, d I y this thing?

22:46

You know, so send your blocks into two by

22:48

fours, I mean really, milk crates and

22:50

and you know boards. That's all

22:53

you need, really, I mean, honestly, that's all

22:55

you really need. It's so simple. You can you

22:57

can do a lot with what you

22:59

have already, or you can just

23:01

kind of make what you have work. A little

23:03

bit better for you. I mean think about storage,

23:06

like maybe storing things. You know, if your garage door

23:08

goes up, but you've got you know, like a nine foot ceiling,

23:10

you've probably got unused space above the garage

23:13

door. You know that one interfere exact or

23:15

stuff up there, like you know they have hanging racks.

23:17

You can do that, or you can simply

23:19

I saw the coolest idea you

23:21

just make. It's almost like like wouldn't

23:24

eye beams almost and you

23:26

can slide your bins onto those things and

23:28

you can slide you know, I guess you can put a stop

23:30

on one so they don't slide off. But you can access

23:33

all that stuff really easily. I mean you're not pulling

23:35

down that you have to pull the whole bin down, but

23:37

think about putting stuff up there. Like I think the recommendation

23:40

was, like, you know, stuff you don't use very often, like seasonal

23:42

things, camping gear, things like

23:44

that that you know you only need a

23:46

few times a year or even once a year, but

23:49

it's a great place to put it. I mean, if you don't have a basement,

23:51

or you don't have an addic storage or something like that that

23:53

you know that that space above your door is

23:56

valuable space that's being you know, left unused

23:58

and and a lot of people just kind overlooked that one

24:00

prime real estate. On this note, I

24:02

want to show you guys something. This made

24:05

me feel like a genius when I read that someone

24:07

else had done this online. When I

24:09

was a kid growing up, one of the

24:12

dumbest parts of our garage was

24:14

the corner where we just had to throw

24:16

all like the rakes and the shovels and the

24:19

pics and the hose and stuff because

24:21

we didn't have a super great place to put

24:23

it, and we didn't have room to you know, make

24:25

a corkboard hanging wall. But

24:28

we had this idea where we

24:30

had small palettes laying around and we put

24:32

one up on its side and we did this.

24:34

I'm showing Scott the picture here. Uh

24:37

you want to describe that. Yeah, it's just it's

24:39

it's up against um um exposed studs

24:41

on the wall. But it it gives

24:43

you a space. It like carves out of space

24:46

there if you put the palette up against the wall vertically

24:48

and nail in place, scrutin place, or whatever gives

24:51

you a place to put those long handled tools

24:53

that you know, are oftentimes either

24:55

just leaning against the wall or you know whatever.

24:57

I made my own tool rack, not like that, but

25:00

the kind with like just hooks that you can hang

25:02

things on, you know, like you'd buy them for like

25:05

maybe uh, you know, hanging a bike on the ceiling

25:07

or something like that. You make all different shapes, and I got

25:09

some that are shaped like, um, almost like

25:11

a y that has a little bit of a lip

25:13

to it. And I screwed it two by

25:15

four to the wall and into the stud

25:17

so it's really really solid. And I

25:19

hung up my tools on that you know, on these rats on

25:21

these spaced everything out and you know, measured it

25:23

all out so everything goes right where it should

25:26

so that you know, it doesn't interfere with the tool

25:28

next to it, doesn't knock it down every time you take it off.

25:30

And then I did this cool thing where,

25:32

um, I think this is cool. Anyways,

25:34

I hung up just an eye hook and

25:37

I put a carabeener through it with a little

25:39

loop on the end. And then on every power

25:41

tool that I have, like my leaf blower it's an electric

25:43

leaf blow or trimmer, you know, electric

25:46

trimmer, I tied a corresponding

25:48

loop on that object

25:51

that stays on there all the time. It's just a little

25:53

maybe like a foot long piece of rope that I

25:55

tied into a loop and then all I have to do is

25:57

just hook it on the carabeener and that hangs dead. Then those

25:59

hang down below in that in

26:01

that void space in between the tools, so

26:04

like it's all it's all like, it's really, it's

26:07

sorry toot my own horn here, but it's

26:10

it's it's really I feel like

26:12

it's well laid out. And I tried to like

26:14

use that idea or that

26:17

that way of dealing with things to organize

26:19

the rest of the garage, and it's gone pretty well so far. I mean

26:21

I've been able to figure things out and place

26:24

things accordingly so that you know, it all fits.

26:26

Like you said, like tetris, you know it gives you, um,

26:29

I don't know. It just gives you a um,

26:31

a much more open feel to it,

26:34

and it allows you again to access

26:36

anything you want right at you know, a moment's

26:38

notice, and you know right where everything is. And the good thing

26:40

about something like that, a lot of people

26:42

will, you know, they'll think like,

26:44

well, big deal. You can buy it an old bucket

26:46

and throw your tools in that. That's fine, but that takes

26:48

up a lot of floor space. Yeah, and so

26:51

so that's a smart way to do it, like you and your

26:53

family have done or did in the past. I

26:55

don't know if your dad still does that or what, but still

26:57

using the old the palette there against man,

27:00

he's he's retired, so

27:02

that means that the garage is getting this

27:05

crazy, crazy mop down. Yeah.

27:08

Yeah, he went through

27:11

Gosh, I guess starting about a year and a half

27:13

ago, he started getting rid

27:15

of stuff, and uh, I thought

27:18

that was cool. But you know, anybody who has

27:20

had parents or family members start

27:22

cleaning stuff out of the house, you know what happens.

27:25

I was getting calls like once or twice

27:27

a week just just to pitch

27:29

me on whether I wanted this ridiculous item.

27:32

And he's like, you know, hey, I've got

27:34

this this tiller. Do you want a tiller?

27:36

And I'm thinking, well, that's I don't know where I'm gonna

27:38

put that in my two bedroom apartment. But I

27:40

appreciate the thing is like, you hate

27:42

to see stuff like that go. Yeah, exactly.

27:45

It's like he doesn't need it anymore, but

27:47

he doesn't and he doesn't want to just give the thing away,

27:49

and he's got two tillers you don't need to

27:55

with like my gas girl. Okay, gas girls laying

27:57

around, but it's a it's a pile of garbage. But

28:00

eventually just had to just get rid of it for you know, the

28:02

scrap metal, and no one wanted it. I mean

28:04

and no one. I probably wouldn't feel good giving

28:06

it to somebody even you know, it's just that in that pour

28:08

of condition, and I had another one that had

28:10

replaced it, so why not get rid of that one? It just makes

28:12

sense, like if you can just kind of pair things

28:14

down a little bit in there and give

28:16

yourself some rooms, some elbow room, because now

28:19

I've got a a small

28:21

it's a modest size work area.

28:23

It's not very big at all, and I've I've even

28:25

got some things on there that I still want to get rid of, you

28:27

know, some bench type things that I

28:29

kind of want to get rid of and clear out the area.

28:31

But it's so nice to have a functional

28:34

space to work in again. And I really do

28:36

appreciate that, you know, having that space to go

28:38

to and you know sometimes after

28:40

I'm done, you know, working on the yard or whatever, just

28:43

kind of hang out in there. It's it's

28:45

not a bad place. I put a stereo in, yeah,

28:49

you know. And that's another thing like this is so simple,

28:52

you know when it cost me to put a stereo on my garage,

28:54

like less than forty bucks probably,

28:57

and it's it's pretty cool.

28:59

It's like a ken Would sound system that I

29:01

went and got it. I got it like a goodwill or

29:03

thrift store or something like that. It's a great receiver.

29:06

Um. I was looking for one of the old dial in types,

29:08

you know, with like the the old real old school silver

29:10

front you know, I think I couldn't find

29:13

one. They were too expensive when I did. This

29:15

one is a you know, a really nice system.

29:17

I don't know. I have to model a number in front of

29:19

me right now. But um, I was able to get some floor

29:22

speakers, you know, like those old floor speakers,

29:24

the big ones, um killer

29:26

speakers. They're really really cool and

29:29

they look cool. And again

29:31

I think they're I think they're ken Would. I think it's a matching,

29:33

said, I can't remember now, um, but

29:36

I just put them on top of a shelf somewhere. I've got

29:38

four of them. I've only I only put up two and that's

29:40

more than enough. You only need one really and

29:42

barely turned the volume up on the thing because in the garage,

29:45

you know, it's pretty that goes, yeah, it does,

29:47

so you know you just have it on soft. But um,

29:49

it's nice and it and it passes the time, and it's

29:51

something it's so simple to do. It

29:54

is so inexpensive to to move like an

29:56

old stereo out there or just something cheap. You

29:59

can get them anywhere really for just a few bucks.

30:02

It just makes it that much more pleasant

30:04

to be out there for a longer period of time,

30:06

whether you're working on something, you know, just kind of tune

30:08

everything out and and get to work.

30:10

It's it's nice. Yeah. I think that's

30:12

when you know you're going in the right direction.

30:15

It's when you reach the point with the garage

30:18

where you walk in and you think,

30:20

yeah, I get just hang out here for a second, you

30:22

know what I mean. That's when you know that you've done something

30:24

right. I do also want to add to that excellent

30:27

point about using the ceiling

30:29

is real estate. It's depending

30:32

on the type of ceiling you have and the

30:34

type of type of hooks you're able to

30:36

get in there. It's a fantastic place

30:38

to put ladders. Oh yeah, yeah,

30:40

that's another thing to get all that stuff up

30:42

off the floor if you can. Yeah, because

30:44

it just takes up space. It's just usable real

30:47

estate that you're that you're losing if

30:49

you have, you know, especially a ladder, big ladder, you have

30:51

it kind of leaning against the wall takes up even

30:53

more room if it has to stand

30:55

out from the wall and lean against it. Um

30:57

if you understand, I mean, the footprint of

30:59

it becomes bigger because of that. I mean if you

31:01

can somehow get it up against the wall or even off

31:03

the floor, all the better. You know. Again,

31:06

just simple hooks. I mean, hooks

31:08

have saved me so much space in my

31:10

garage. Is it's unbelievable. And I don't even have

31:12

like a big fancy wall system or anything like that.

31:14

It's just an open shelving unit and

31:16

it's like very industrial looking.

31:18

It's very it's just you know, very

31:21

functional. But it's not like covered. I

31:23

don't have everything like concealed or anything like

31:25

that. In fact, I wish I did. I wish there was a you

31:27

know, I know, I could just put up like a

31:29

piece of cloth over it or something and that would conceal

31:31

it. If you wanted a cleaner look to it. No man,

31:34

go crazy, get like a Murphy bed type

31:36

mechanism, you know what I mean, It pulls

31:39

down. Yeah, that's That's one of the

31:41

things I'm probably gonna build when I get a garage

31:43

that is my own again, I'm gonna build

31:45

some fold down tables. They're super

31:47

simple to build and they're great for space

31:50

management because the last garage

31:52

I had was from a house built in the

31:55

nineteen sixties and the garage

31:57

was just smaller than a lot of garages you'd

32:00

seat now, so so I had to do stuff

32:02

like that. It's very narrow, right, Yeah, it's pretty

32:04

narrow. It's like it was. So it

32:08

was essentially a car poard

32:10

where someone had put some just

32:13

enough of a wall up that you could say it

32:15

was a garage. So it wasn't insulated.

32:17

It's probably like the you know, the

32:20

the bottom half of the wall was

32:22

brick from where the car poard originally

32:24

was, and then the rest was like would and

32:27

would That was that was

32:29

treated, you know, anxiety on the outside.

32:31

It wasn't It wasn't just straight up plywood,

32:34

like it didn't look like I lived in a in

32:36

a drug dealer's house, but it was so

32:38

small that it was it was crowded

32:40

to parks like a Honda Civic

32:42

in there, you know what I mean. So I needed to have

32:45

those full down shelves whenever

32:47

I was going to do anything. And I also

32:49

had to going back to being ungrateful, I used

32:51

to complain when I would have to back

32:53

the car out and work on it in the driveway

32:56

because I had to set up everything else inside

32:59

the actual garage. But man, that is

33:01

way better than replacing stuff in a parking

33:03

lot. Oh yeah, it definitely is. And you know

33:05

some people do have to do that. I mean,

33:07

that's a that's the thing we and again, Kurt,

33:09

we talked about this off air. Maybe

33:11

we should talk about it right now on area. I mean,

33:13

what we're there, um portable

33:16

garages. People buy portable

33:18

garages. This is crazy. Now. I

33:20

guess it wouldn't be a place you'd normally want

33:22

to kind of go hang out or anything, but I think

33:24

it's it would be uh smart to mention these

33:26

right now. So what did what did you find? Well?

33:29

I was just thinking, you know, sometimes you have a project

33:32

going on. It might be a two day job, or

33:34

it might even bleed over into the next

33:36

weekend and you don't have a garage, so

33:39

you would want some covering for the car

33:42

elements so you can't leave things as

33:44

they are as well, you don't want to have to button

33:46

everything up just to take it back apart again.

33:49

Yeah, exactly. I've seen some, you

33:51

know, there's some real basically tents.

33:53

Yeah. I don't know how well they work, though, I

33:56

get the idea that they're not too stable.

33:58

You want to check the weather before you did

34:01

this type of activity. I've looked

34:03

into these because of our discussion,

34:05

so I looked into these, and you know, these these

34:07

portable or temporary garages are

34:09

a thing that people do want. Typically they'll

34:11

have like a steel frame with a fabric cover.

34:14

Although that covering that's

34:16

where a lot of this changes. I mean the

34:18

the the sturdiness of the

34:20

frame and the fabric that covers it.

34:23

So you know whether it's a weather proof, whether it's

34:25

you know, um it's opaque enough

34:27

that you know no sun like gets through, or if

34:29

all the sun like gets through, you know, like like you think

34:32

about like a tent or something. You know, there's

34:34

every variation, there's everything in between,

34:36

so um, you can

34:38

find one. I mean like they come in like

34:40

barn style or you know whatever. They have like a little

34:42

pitched roof on them so that you know, if there is weather,

34:45

rain or snow, that it would kind

34:47

of like rush off the eaves. I guess off

34:50

the roofline, I should say, so it doesn't get you know, heavy

34:52

weight up there and collapse, because I think that would be a real

34:54

danger with something like this um or

34:57

even high winds. I mean, they're not for everybody,

34:59

and they're not for are all situations.

35:01

But you can get one that's like twelve

35:04

by twenty by I think about nine ft tall

35:06

for you know, a ballpark around

35:08

a thousand dollars and that's pretty pricey

35:10

still. But if you don't have an area to do what

35:13

you were describing, Kurt, where you can you know, tear

35:15

something apart and leave it apart for a day

35:17

or two if you have to or exposed or

35:20

you know whatever you're happy to be working on. You know, you want it

35:22

protected or you want to you know, you want to protect yourself.

35:24

You don't want to be out in the in the the elements

35:26

doing this. It's a great solution and they

35:28

can stay up for extended periods

35:31

of time. I mean with some level of confidence

35:33

that it's going to remain in place if you anchor them

35:35

correctly and weigh them down and all that,

35:37

you know, and if you get to like the big ones. There are some

35:39

big industrial size ones that are you know, like forty

35:42

ft or more. I mean we're talking

35:44

like twelve thousand dollars for some

35:46

of these. I mean, at what point do we stop

35:48

calling those things portable garages and

35:50

started calling them portable barns because

35:53

there's really big ones, like

35:56

some of those are the size of a small shop.

35:58

Well sure, yeah, some of them. You see, like you'll see

36:00

a photo of the one that I was just talking about, the twelve

36:03

one, and someone's driving a forklift into

36:05

it to store lumber or you know whatever it

36:07

was. It could be a temporary outbuilding

36:10

for a company. You know, they're that they're that big,

36:12

like a pre manufactured garage. Yeah,

36:14

but yeah, yeah, exactly right, Yeah, it's like

36:17

exactly and it's something that's they

36:19

say it's portable. I mean it's that's that's

36:21

kind of an iffy term for something like it's

36:23

big, right, But I mean it's more portable

36:26

than a garage that is attached to

36:28

a house. I guess, I

36:30

guess it is more portable than that. Yeah,

36:33

So anyways, I think it's a good solution for some

36:35

people, but um, it

36:37

doesn't work in every situation, and they are kind of expensive.

36:39

But like this is a good place to mention

36:42

this anyway, for the parking lot type or the out

36:44

in the street type that does their work

36:46

in that environment. You know, how many times

36:48

do you get involved in a project that takes

36:51

you longer than you thought it was gonna be kind

36:53

of like wrap everything up real quick and then

36:56

go back home for the night or whatever. How

36:58

many companies now are doing like dent

37:01

repair and things like that in parking lots,

37:03

you know, like they'll come to your office and do that, or wheel

37:05

repairs. That might be a decent

37:08

use for something like that where you want to keep you

37:10

know, like bugs and debris and stuff

37:12

like that off of it, or if it's raining that you

37:14

can't do that work, and if it's raining, but you could

37:17

set up a temporary shelter around

37:19

the vehicle if you have that, you know, that luxury

37:21

of space to do it. Going back

37:23

to your point about how portable are these

37:25

things, Like I think we've all seen maybe

37:28

an emission's shack or something

37:30

that is pretty much one of those. Yeah,

37:33

yeah, for sure. I mean yeah, like we're like, it's

37:35

just in a parking lot somewhere and right

37:37

you drive through. Yeah yeah,

37:40

I know there are laws and stuff, but I treat

37:43

emissions the way you like to treat landfill. Scott

37:45

want a little bit of edge in there, a

37:48

shape, I

37:50

will have to look too hard. I want to know. I

37:54

don't want to know rather whether that

37:56

emissions place is going to be there tomorrow. I

37:58

just want to cruise in, you know, ships

38:00

in the night. I'm a ghost. Just

38:02

hand me the paper, put me in the system. Right.

38:05

It seems like it seems like most of them are that way.

38:07

Do they really want to even do the test

38:10

or do they just wanna want some exchange.

38:13

It's different. It's different now in Georgia.

38:16

You guys remember when you used to just

38:18

get the physical badge instead

38:20

of the paper and electronic entry

38:22

into a system. Sure, man, corruption

38:26

was rife. No I'm not saying I ever

38:29

did it, but I was in so many situations

38:31

where you'd be hanging out with like a mechanic

38:34

acquaintance, because you know, almost

38:36

every solid mechanic has

38:39

the garage they work at, and then

38:41

they have their house, which also slowly

38:43

over time turns into another garage.

38:46

And so I can't tell you how many times I had

38:48

somewhat like I was fixing the car of

38:50

a girl I was dating or trying to get it up to

38:52

the snuff for emissions, and that I would have one of my

38:55

mechanic buddies say, you

38:57

know, we

38:59

can just get a sticker. It's

39:02

like, dude, I think that's pretty

39:04

illegal, and they're like, yeah, yeah,

39:07

yeah, but uh but

39:08

uh, we can just get a sticker.

39:11

And for the record, again, I never did it.

39:13

I never did it because I don't think that's

39:16

a good move. But where

39:19

was I going with this? I'm not sure exactly. Yeah.

39:21

Yeah, temporary buildings that you that's

39:24

right, soon, that's

39:26

what it is. Yeah, I mean, temporary buildings

39:29

are a great idea. You guys know, there's also this thing

39:31

that popped up that I had never heard of before,

39:33

communal garages. Oh yeah,

39:36

yeah yeah. So if you don't have the space that you

39:38

want for something like this, so you know, we're

39:40

exactly the right set up, go to a community garage

39:42

where you a communal garage, I guess

39:44

where you rent the space for a certain amount

39:46

of time. Now you have to bring and I think most of those

39:48

you have to bring your own tools. Um,

39:51

they might have some for rent, or you can borrow some. Somebody

39:53

that you know is there using the

39:55

communal garage. I guess if if there are more than one

39:58

bay or or something. I've never used one before, but

40:00

I've heard of them. I don't even know if there are any operating

40:02

around here or not. I'm just not even sure. But

40:05

yeah, if you don't have the space, you can read it. Yeah.

40:07

I do want to add one other thing. I've

40:09

heard about this and I've never run into

40:11

someone who's actually done it. I want to see

40:14

if you guys have heard about this. Let's say

40:16

you have a major repair, you

40:18

know how to do it, and you have the

40:21

tools, but you don't have the garage. I

40:23

have heard that it's possible to

40:25

go to an auto mechanics school

40:28

and use their garage

40:32

with the understanding. I mean, you're going to do the work

40:34

and you're going to bring your own tools, right, That's

40:36

what I've heard. I've never seen it confirmed. I

40:38

did not know that. That's interesting.

40:40

I have to look into that too, and I know that UM.

40:43

I long, long time ago, there was a community

40:46

college near me that had an

40:47

UM automotive program,

40:50

and I know that students would bring their cars

40:52

in and it was kind of their project, you know, for

40:54

the term. They'd be able to kind of work on

40:56

their own car as there

40:58

as there. You know that they're learning

41:01

tool I guess, you know. So they had cars

41:03

over there, you know, they had specific problems that they

41:06

would teach you how to fix and repair and all that. But

41:08

UM, if you let's say that you're taking a painting class

41:10

and you've got an old car that you want to paint, there's

41:13

your project. I mean you can you can do it on that and learn

41:15

on your own vehicle, and you'll be graded

41:17

on it. Of course, you know, as you would, but it's

41:19

but it's your own thing at the very end, you know, of

41:21

course, you're also more likely to treat it

41:23

with care. Yeah, you're right, you know. It makes

41:25

me think of though. I like the fact that

41:28

everything I've read about taking it to a

41:30

mechanics school, everything I've

41:32

read about it emphasizes you doing

41:34

the work yourself. You know, you're basically renting

41:37

the space. Yeah, because

41:39

otherwise it would be like another

41:41

weird life hack I've heard of but

41:43

I've never seen officially confirmed, which

41:46

is saving money on a haircut by

41:48

going to a cosmetology school, which

41:50

feels like a real trust pull, you

41:52

know what I mean. I think that you can do that. I do

41:54

think that they have that. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, have

41:56

you done that? Okay,

41:59

maybe got the got the beard trimmed up there so

42:01

you can tell, right, yeah,

42:04

I just I mean, yeah, do you pay extra to

42:06

get a like a week three

42:08

person? I think, isn't

42:10

it the thing? Like, I don't know if you pay. I think

42:12

that maybe you go and maybe there's

42:15

varying degrees of this, but you might pay

42:17

for the supplies if you have to have your hair diet

42:19

or something like that. Maybe, but I don't think that

42:21

you pay, and it might take you a long time

42:23

to get your hair cut because I think they're learning, you

42:26

know, they're they're they're teaching somebody when

42:28

you're doing it. But um, yeah, that's an interesting idea

42:30

though, to take it to an automotive school and

42:32

uh and rent the space. But you have to do the work yourself.

42:35

So if you if you're knowledgeable

42:37

with that kind of thing, or you have the tools. That's a smart

42:40

thing to do. We

42:48

should probably buzz through a couple more of these real quick.

42:50

Just because we're a little

42:52

bit behind on on

42:54

my list. I guess we're not gonna get to everything on the list.

42:56

We never do right, um, because we have always

42:59

I love oursel conversations, So talking

43:01

about the junkyard, talking about the

43:03

hair college or whatever you want to call it, the

43:07

GUI the

43:09

whole time. No, that's all right, I like that

43:11

stuff. But um, I guess overall, really,

43:13

I mean, the the the lesson here, if there

43:15

is a lesson to be learned, is get rid of the clutter, get

43:18

rid of the junk. Hang stuff up off the floor,

43:20

you know, get it off of the off the ground

43:22

there. If you can that way, you've got more real estate

43:24

to use. And once you do do that, then maybe

43:27

flooring is another thing that a lot of people kind of

43:29

neglect or or overlook. I know there's

43:32

been recently kind of not maybe

43:34

not even recently, a big push to use

43:36

like those epoxy systems you can do at home.

43:38

I mean there's kids that you can buy and the materials

43:40

come practically ready to go. I mean

43:43

you just have to do the cleaning yourself, and you know, there's

43:45

step by step instructions about how to do that, and it's

43:47

non skid and all that. But there's

43:49

a ton of flooring options and one

43:51

of these on this list really surprised

43:53

me and I was shocked by I'll just quickly

43:56

go through the list and we can if you wanted to stop and

43:58

talk about any of them, we can. But

44:00

there's I don't have any of these. By the way, My floor

44:02

is painted, which is one of the cheapest ways to do

44:04

it, and it's peeled up a little bit

44:06

here and there, but it's it's held pretty well. It's

44:09

not the epoxy, but it's definitely like a

44:11

harder paint. I think it's an outdoor paint that

44:13

they used, and it's it's okay. It does the

44:15

job. It keeps the fluids from

44:18

going right onto the concrete, which is nice. You know, you

44:20

can clean them up pretty easy. So that's

44:22

one of the cheapest things you can do, is paint the floor.

44:24

Also not the best option. I'll tell

44:26

you that you can do any variety

44:29

of coatings. Of course, you can do you know, epoxy,

44:31

or you can even do just concrete sealer. If you have a nice

44:33

clean floor already. You can't do that if it's already

44:35

stained and you know, kind of a mess. And that's the

44:38

same thing with concrete stain. If

44:40

you do concrete stain, which by

44:42

the way, it looks really cool when it's done. But

44:45

if you have a dirty floor, crack floor,

44:47

you know it has imperfections. You're going to see that

44:49

through the stain. Even if you try

44:51

to cover it up, try to patch you to whatever, You're gonna see those

44:53

cracks and things, you know. So you've gotta have a floor

44:55

that's in decent shape to begin with to do that. Okay,

44:58

Now, there's like other surfaces that

45:00

you can add to your garage floor that I know a

45:02

lot of people have done. I'm a little area

45:05

of these, but um, like what like the interlocking

45:07

tiles, I don't know why. I just feel like they'll

45:09

be slick um, you know, like they'd

45:11

be like if you've got any oil or grease on

45:14

them or if But again that's concrete

45:16

as well, so I don't know. Maybe that's maybe

45:18

there's something to that, but they look like they're they'd

45:20

be slick even in water. To me, it just don't

45:22

seem and they're they're a little bit pricey. I mean,

45:25

you know the interlocking tiles, they're they're designed

45:27

for heavy load and you can put them on an uneven

45:29

floor or semi uneven. You

45:31

have to kind of do a little bit of work ahead of time to get it ready,

45:34

but it can be a simple fix. It can make your

45:36

garage look really nice if you want it to look

45:38

really nice. It's functional because

45:40

I guess some of that stuff does drain away, you know, underneath,

45:43

as long as you can access below it to clean it up.

45:45

Eventually, you don't just have fluids and laying around

45:48

and you know, of course one gets damaged or you

45:50

want to change it out. You can do that pretty easy with

45:52

tile. Instead of being one solid piece or paint

45:54

or you know whatever, it's it's harder to

45:56

come back from that. There's also, you

45:59

know, the option you can put down like you know those titles

46:01

real heavy duty tiles they use in a

46:03

lot of elementary schools use those tiles,

46:05

you know, like the um then I

46:07

think it's vinyl flooring, but

46:09

there the vinyl tiles, the you know the

46:12

one they have the oh

46:15

it's not corrugated, you know what I'm talking about,

46:17

the surface is like a non slip surface. Yeah,

46:20

that's right. Yeah, so that's a decent thing to do. I

46:22

mean, you can you can do that. It's again, you

46:24

can get them really cheap. You can also get them very expensive

46:26

depending on the surface treatment

46:29

that you want. You know, the colors and all that, and

46:31

all this stuff is customizable. So if you buy

46:34

you know, a pattern that you want to put down on the ground, you can do

46:36

that. That's kind of cool. Um, a lot of

46:38

people have, you know, there's a

46:40

variety of ideas for flooring,

46:43

you know, what you should do, what you shouldn't do on this. But

46:45

but one thing that that really stat with me that now,

46:48

actually, you know, I'm gonna wait for just a second. I'm gonna say

46:50

two more that I think are interesting, but then I'll get

46:52

to the one that was the most interesting to me. Right. Uh.

46:54

There's also peeling stick tiles that are kind

46:56

of like what I was just talking about, but they're vinyl,

46:59

so it's you know, self adhesive type

47:01

thing that you know, you put on put them down. That's

47:04

an okay, fixed a little cheaper, but

47:06

um, you can still do it. And then there's also a

47:09

solid one piece vinyl role that you can put

47:11

out like um, think about linoleum, you know, like the

47:13

old linoleum only made specifically

47:16

for garages, and it might have a texture

47:18

to it. The problem is if you damage it or something,

47:20

you know, it's harder to patch in and

47:23

replace something like that. And by

47:25

the way, that's one of the benefits of it is that there are no seams,

47:28

so that you know, stuff won't gather and seems

47:30

stuff won't build up, and and if you start

47:32

cutting holes to patch in that, you know, that's

47:34

where the problems start. Really. Now,

47:36

the most interesting one on this list that I found for

47:39

for flooring options for garage carpet,

47:42

and I thought, okay, that's a little crazy, right,

47:44

I mean, you think like this is like we're getting into

47:46

that million dollar garage territory, right you put down

47:48

carpet. It's not the case. It's it's stuff

47:50

that's called and I've got a brand name here for it,

47:53

because I saw a lot of people talking about the specific

47:55

brand. And again we're not selling it or

47:57

anything like that or getting any kind of money kicked back

48:00

this thing. But the brand of the product is

48:02

called Tough Carpet. It's t u f

48:04

F carpet, all one word and

48:07

apparently the stuff is like peeling

48:09

stick squares like you would find, you know, like in an office

48:11

or something. You know, if you you know, put down carpeting

48:13

in a small room or something like that. This

48:16

stuff is really really durable.

48:18

You get this. It can be like power washed if

48:21

you need to. Uh yeah, And it still

48:23

has the give and the feel of

48:25

real carpet. It doesn't have, um,

48:28

I don't want to put this. It's it's like what they use on

48:31

pro football stadiums, like you know, the turf,

48:34

only it's not like you

48:36

know, AstroTurf. It's it's not like all

48:39

you know, prickly and pokey like that. It doesn't feel

48:41

like plastic. It feels like carpet.

48:43

When you put your hands across it. It It feels like it's got

48:45

the give. It's got the plushness to it, just

48:47

a little bit, not a lot. It's not real thick shag

48:49

or anything like that, of course, but it's

48:51

got like a low I guess you call it a low nap

48:54

carpet. I don't know carpet really, but

48:56

I think that's what they call it. Low nap. And

48:58

again, you can you can hour watch the stuff. It's

49:01

supposed to resist petroleum products. So you

49:03

know, you're thinking, like, well, if my car is leaking a while,

49:05

I'm not going to park it on this carpet. But

49:07

apparently that's no problem. It'll just wipe right

49:09

off. So I thought it was a cool solution.

49:11

And they've been around for a long time. I've I've

49:13

seen articles about this product

49:16

for many, many years since, you

49:18

know, at least eight nine years ago now

49:20

at this point, so there, I think they're still around.

49:22

The latest reference to it I found was

49:24

right around eighteen.

49:27

I think, Um, so who knows, you know, maybe

49:29

they're maybe they're still there doing it. Maybe they're not. I don't.

49:31

I don't know, but I thought carpeting was an

49:33

odd thing to include in this list.

49:36

But you know, again, if it's

49:38

built for it, why not. Yeah,

49:40

I guess you're right. I'm not. I'm still kind

49:42

of I shouldn't be

49:44

skeptical. I'm just so used to a bare

49:46

floor garage. It just seems like the simpler

49:49

solution. Yeah, I know. I mean, and again all

49:51

this, I feel like you can almost

49:53

make like pathways to your car, like you could like

49:55

the area that you step out of your car onto, like

49:58

that could be carpeted or maybe like I

50:00

guess, a runner on the side you know where

50:03

um, you know you could put your shoes or whatever, you know,

50:05

keep the garbage cans over there or something whatever, um,

50:08

but maybe not where your wheels are actually parked.

50:17

I don't know how much more I have to add it. I mean, of

50:19

course there's gonna be lighting option. You want to have good

50:22

lighting in your garage, and a couple of things

50:24

that that I want to mention here, like you

50:26

could. It doesn't have to be expensive. I've got

50:28

I'll tell you right now. In my garage, we've got like two bare

50:30

bulbs in the in the ceiling. That's terrible. It's

50:33

terrible lighting. But I want to change that. I want

50:35

to change it too again to be a little bit more. I

50:37

don't know, just it'll look better. It will also

50:39

provide better light, I guess, because the placement

50:41

of them is not exactly right for me. It's just kind

50:44

of where they they where the builder wanted to put

50:46

them. You don't this

50:48

there's the thing. I just found something.

50:50

I know this has been around a while, but have

50:52

you've seen these tape l E D s as?

50:55

I think are pretty cool and I don't know if

50:57

that really would be a good option

50:59

for me. I know, you can dim them, you can get just

51:01

you know, the white ones there there's something that you can change all

51:04

different colors um and that's cool

51:06

too. But like these tape L e d s are such

51:08

an interesting idea that you know, they run off of

51:10

like a low voltage power supply, doesn't

51:12

take a whole lot to to operate them, and you can

51:14

put them anywhere. I mean, they're they're intended for

51:17

you know, well for anything really, but you

51:19

know under cabinet type lighting, that type of thing,

51:21

you know, to replace the old fixtures that you'd have to bolt

51:23

up there. But yeah, if you've never seen tape

51:26

L e d s, look up, you know, look look it up

51:28

sometime and might be surprised by

51:30

what you find if if you're not already hip to that

51:32

type of thing. I'm not crazy about

51:35

the quality of fluorescent lighting. And

51:37

I know that's one thing though that you can you

51:39

can buy a lot of fluorescent lighting cheap

51:41

relatively. You can buy the fixtures.

51:43

You can get the fixtures that you know, like again Goodwill,

51:46

thrift store places like that, same

51:48

place you can go to get you know, an old cabinet.

51:50

It doesn't have to be a cabinet that was built for the garage.

51:53

Put an old cabinet out in the in the garage, you know,

51:55

there was an old bookshelf or whatever. That's

51:58

great storage. I mean you could even find a way

52:00

to put a door on it if there isn't one. Use an

52:02

old armore if you want, you know, put

52:04

that out in the garage's story. Like, just repurpose

52:06

things and use things in a smart

52:08

way that is useful to you

52:10

where you need the most. So you know, even

52:13

if you have old furniture around your house you're not using,

52:16

see if it'll be if you can repurpose that thing in

52:18

your bride in some way. Yeah, yeah, it just it

52:20

makes sense. There's a lot of really affordable,

52:23

i mean even free ways to

52:26

do things to your garage to make it just a better place

52:28

to be. And I think I'm getting

52:30

to that point with mine. Like I said, I haven't done insulation

52:33

or lighting or anything like that. Trying to think

52:35

of what else I haven't done, like flora POxy yet or anything

52:37

like that. But the paint is holding up. Okay, it's

52:40

not fantastic, but it's all right. The survival

52:42

is slash Pepper in me wants

52:45

to point out that you can, like

52:47

I know your garage pretty well from way've

52:50

described over the years, you probably have room for

52:52

a deep freezer in there. Ian consider that.

52:55

Uh, maybe maybe get

52:57

one of those portable garages that Kurt hip

52:59

just to start smoking some meats because

53:01

you never know, you know, sure to be prepared.

53:03

Yeah. Uh, let me see what other ridiculous

53:06

things can I suggest? A pinball machine?

53:09

Well I might as well, like you know, etch

53:11

out an area on the floor and then start digging

53:13

the shelter. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah,

53:16

yeah, that's one thing,

53:18

you know what I saw it. Just I know

53:20

we're getting tight on time, so so we'll wrap it up

53:22

pretty soon. But um, I was thinking

53:24

when I was talking with Kurt, you know, like let's

53:26

not talk about like car lifts and like

53:28

you know, elevators and things like that we said we started

53:31

out this podcast. But

53:33

I'll tell you, like if you want, I

53:35

mean, I'm not going to discourage anybody from doing this, but

53:37

you can put in a lift in your garage. It's not as

53:39

expensive as you might think. It's it's

53:41

expensive, but it's not as expensive

53:43

as you might think you look at it and think it's like, well,

53:45

that's fifty do

53:47

not at all know? The home versions of

53:50

these are relative and I'll say relatively

53:52

affordable for something, you know, and I would

53:54

say comparatively comparative comparatively,

53:56

And you've got to have the right set up. You gotta

53:58

have a high seat, high enough ceiling. I think

54:01

it has to be like eleven or twelve feet tall to

54:03

safely operate one of these things. Really, I mean

54:05

with the post and everything. There's a there's two post versions,

54:07

there's four post versions. You can get a two

54:09

post version. You know where you're the posts

54:13

are on the side next to the doors. I guess

54:15

when you pull up you kind of pull through this thing.

54:17

Then there's the four post versions, which sometimes will

54:19

have ramps you can like fully secure

54:21

the vehicle on top of it and then raise it up. And

54:24

then there's also the versions where you know you can block

54:26

those in park another car below it, which is really

54:28

cool. Yeah, that's the one I would go for.

54:30

But you know those are I mean, and you

54:33

might think that again really really expensive, like

54:37

Bucks, maybe less one.

54:40

I saw one Bucks you can get

54:42

see the only thing with that, And I say,

54:44

this as an avowed cheapskate.

54:46

The only thing with that is I would be very

54:49

careful about how thrift y I

54:51

was I'm buying on especially

54:53

because because you want I want the

54:56

kind where I'm going to have living

54:59

people under it, yeah, doing repairs,

55:01

or ideally the kind I might have another

55:04

very expensive vehicle under it,

55:06

and I don't want to wake up to

55:09

that going wrong. No, no, no,

55:11

no one does. No one wants to hear that noise. That's not

55:13

the kind of a long clock I want in the morning. One of your

55:15

cars crushing the other one of your cars.

55:18

Yeah, that'd be a terrible noise,

55:20

and you know, one last quick. So it's

55:22

not out of the question to do something

55:25

like that in your garage. If you've got the means to pay

55:27

you know, bucks for a four

55:29

post lift, do it. And you've got the place to do it.

55:32

One thing that I thought, Okay, there's no way we

55:34

can we can do this. It's just too expensive.

55:37

I've seen do it yourself pits

55:39

dug in garages, and I

55:42

have mixed feelings about this, but it

55:44

is. But I've seen some really nice ones,

55:47

really really are they like are the is

55:49

the property on a hill? And they're built into it

55:51

or so it's it's yeah, nope, this is someone chiseling

55:54

right through the floor of their garage as long as they're you

55:56

know, right through the concrete, putting

55:58

some steps in. Yeah, they put steps in, and

56:01

so they don't have to like you know, you

56:03

don't have another access in another play

56:05

part of the building or anything like that. Nothing fancy. Um.

56:08

But like the guy that I saw doing one, he had

56:10

dug a hole in his garage, a very narrow garage.

56:13

Um. They call it an inspection pit, but really

56:15

it's for like weel changes and things about

56:17

how deep would say it was, well,

56:19

you know what you'd want to be either sitting on a

56:21

stool, you know, so you're comfortable underneath

56:24

it, or standing if he wanted to stand underneath

56:26

there. Um, So you have to kind of like you have to measure

56:28

everything very carefully. Of course, he

56:30

had tiled his in with stone and

56:33

the stairs, so the way he gets into his is

56:35

he um uh. Since

56:37

this one person operating this, he'd drive in right

56:40

to a set point and then kind of like almost

56:42

like kind of worm his way underneath there onto

56:45

the stairs to get underneath the car. So

56:47

it didn't look very comfortable to get into

56:49

because you know, it wasn't If it was longer,

56:51

you could just stand up right and walk right in go

56:53

into the car. But he had a smaller garage

56:56

area, so you know, even though there are stairs

56:58

there, it's great to help me climb out, but you're doing

57:00

that on your hands and knees. Probably, I don't know,

57:02

man, I felt a way of a claustrophobia

57:05

just hearing that description. Yeah, I mean it's not.

57:07

But again, the thing is like it's not out of

57:09

the reach, and it's not something for the ultra

57:11

wealthy. It's not something that you know, you have to have a

57:13

pile of money layer on to do. You can

57:15

do it, I mean, it's not You

57:18

should definitely have all this stuff inspected and checked

57:20

out. You know, if you're not comfortable doing something like

57:22

this, you know, please have somebody

57:25

come in and install that lift for you. Of

57:27

course, I mean you want to be safe about it, but and

57:29

you might even have to. You might have to have somebody install,

57:31

um, you know, a safety inspection. I would

57:33

bet the company that sells these things, you

57:35

know, make sure that there's some kind of a certified

57:39

um individual that comes over and check things out to make

57:41

sure it's bolted down correctly and all that, because

57:43

so yeah, you don't want to, you know, want somebody putting something

57:45

like that in their house and it's be just like this

57:47

huge re liability for the company that built it. You

57:50

know. Yeah, I just I look, I just don't want

57:52

to be sitting under a car on

57:54

a little stool in something

57:57

that's slightly larger than a coffin. Yeah,

57:59

you know, yeah, that's that's the way that

58:01

these look to they look like, um, they're very

58:03

very small. It's not like the big ones that you see at

58:06

the oil change place, you know, like and you

58:08

always will have an open hole in your garage.

58:10

Then of course that's another danger factor

58:12

is you know if somebody uh you know pulls

58:14

in and they've got their you know, they're gonna make a sharp turn

58:16

to get out of the garage or something, you know, to maneuver around

58:19

something, and a wheel goes in there. That's

58:21

gonna be expensive. I mean, no matter what kind

58:23

of you could put a metal grade or something over it. But

58:25

again you're starting to get more and more expensive,

58:27

and you know, like you know, it's just it's it

58:30

becomes more and more complex. There's

58:32

something is still a little nerve racking about crawling

58:34

under a car that's up on a jack or up

58:36

on jack stands. Yes, there is.

58:39

I take the whole Yeah, take

58:41

the would Yeah yeah, okay, I mean

58:43

if I if I had my druthers, yeah,

58:45

I'm with Kurt on that I would, I would want.

58:47

I would want like a hole with an L shape at

58:49

least that you know, it goes out

58:51

from either the back or the front of the car

58:54

and then curves around so you have a workspace under

58:56

there and you can walk down

58:59

the stairs like a man instead

59:01

of a worm. Like.

59:05

Yeah, but see, I mean you're just you're just opening

59:07

up a larger hole in your floor. Every

59:10

know, it's a great plan. Yeah,

59:12

it's well, yeah, you're an idea guy. That's it's

59:15

you know, it's it's the thing is like, it's

59:18

just it just becomes more and more complex as

59:20

right as you think it through. And and yeah,

59:22

these are great to have, and it's fun. It's fun to say

59:24

it and everything, like, it'd be great to have a pit, you know, it would

59:26

be so much so much easier to do this oil

59:29

change. You know, if I had to pit down there, but just

59:31

think of having that pit around year

59:33

round for you know, a couple of times you needed

59:36

or um, you know, not being able to do certain

59:38

things. I think they would be frustrating too. It's like if you

59:40

had if you had a great pit that was already

59:42

dug in the bins basement, and

59:45

there's certain repairs that you can't do in the pit,

59:47

you know, like you have to do the above ground

59:50

just because of acts you know, you don't have access to it.

59:52

So, um, there'll be that frustrating

59:54

side of the whole thing too. But I mean the lift would take care

59:56

of a lot of that. I mean, it would take care of you know

59:59

that's yeah, lift under the way you

1:00:01

had access above you

1:00:04

have four posts. Yeah, I mean it to be safe, I guess

1:00:06

it would be safest. Um. But

1:00:08

anyways, I think that, like again,

1:00:11

I hope this this whole show didn't

1:00:13

like just come on glued when I started mentioning

1:00:16

all this other stuff. But I really do feel

1:00:18

like there's just a lot of really smart, affordable

1:00:21

or even free things that a lot of people could do to

1:00:23

their grudge that they're just not thinking of

1:00:25

right now. Are they don't have the time to to put

1:00:28

to it. If they did, though, they might

1:00:30

find it to be a much more enjoyable place to be and

1:00:32

they might actually get more work done on the vehicle

1:00:34

that they want to work on. You know, it might

1:00:36

just be more pleasant place to to go in and

1:00:38

hang out. And I hope that

1:00:41

message is getting through to a lot of people, you know that, you know,

1:00:43

just spend a little time decluttering

1:00:45

and cleaning and thinking things through a

1:00:47

bit if you can, you know, and have have somebody that's

1:00:49

good at organization take

1:00:51

a look at it with you and that helps too. You know, if you have a

1:00:53

friend that's good at that type of thing, have them

1:00:55

look at it. And there's a ton of

1:00:57

information online and a lot again a lot of

1:01:00

pensive ideas, but a lot of really clever ideas

1:01:02

for storage and um you know, just

1:01:04

simple like simple garage makeover ideas.

1:01:06

A lot of them do get into the expensive cabinets

1:01:09

and you know, stone countertops and that type

1:01:11

of you know, stuff you don't need, um,

1:01:13

but but look within your budget,

1:01:16

you know, make it, make it work, and I think you're

1:01:18

gonna be happier with it in the end. Really, I mean, I

1:01:20

really do I think that that that's what

1:01:23

I've learned through this whole process, and again I need

1:01:25

to get mine in much much better condition.

1:01:27

But I'm already seeing progress and I'm

1:01:29

happy with it. Oh. I would also

1:01:32

say, I think it's so cool to

1:01:34

have a sound system in a garage. Uh

1:01:36

maybe maybe not a TV. I'm still kind

1:01:38

of torn on the TV. You know. I'm

1:01:40

not big on the TV because I don't spend

1:01:42

that much time out there, you know. I mean I do go there

1:01:45

and hang out occasionally, just you know, sit on a milk

1:01:47

crate in the corner, you know, and and uh,

1:01:49

you know, listen to music and work on

1:01:51

something that can hold in my lap or at the at the

1:01:53

um, at the desk or the not the bench

1:01:56

top, um, goof around

1:01:58

stuff out there. It's it's just a nice place to do that.

1:02:01

And yeah, I'm not crazy about like just going

1:02:03

out there and hanging out. I don't have a couch. I don't have It's

1:02:05

not like a like a den or anything

1:02:07

like any like you don't have like a

1:02:10

cooler, a yetie cooler or something. They don't

1:02:12

have anything. Like Some people do that kind

1:02:14

of thing though, like they bring you know, they

1:02:16

stock a you know, refrigerator, full of beer and

1:02:18

they pick a couch, like a couch they picked up again

1:02:20

at a thrift shop or something, you

1:02:23

know, throw throw a rug out there and you know

1:02:25

TV on the wall, and you know they're watching

1:02:27

the game out there, but it's not work.

1:02:29

Yeah, that's transformed into

1:02:32

something. Yeah. That that's what you just don't do

1:02:34

the work you plan to do. Yeah, that's that's

1:02:36

that's that's that's really that's

1:02:40

that's pretty funny. Yeah, that's a that's a good point.

1:02:42

Yeah, and mine's not to that point. And I don't

1:02:44

even think I wanted to be at that point. I just wanted to be functional

1:02:47

and I wanted to be comfortable. And I think I'm getting

1:02:49

I'm getting there. Well' getting the

1:02:51

lighting probably lighting, yeah, I think lighting, and

1:02:53

maybe even the door instulation now that Ben's convinced

1:02:55

me that that's the way to go. Hey, got

1:02:58

beat that summer heat somehow. Yeah.

1:03:00

And you can also, uh,

1:03:02

you can get some pretty easy solutions

1:03:04

if you want it. I don't want to

1:03:07

say it's lazy, but if you feel

1:03:09

like time is it a premium for you,

1:03:11

you can pay someone else to do it too. Yeah.

1:03:13

You know that's another thing that I found is

1:03:15

that. You know, people are treating

1:03:17

their garage space now like they treat

1:03:20

closets. Like when you get a custom closet made.

1:03:22

A lot of people have you know, someone come in and consult

1:03:24

them and say, here's what you need. You need these shelves,

1:03:27

you need this many like

1:03:30

crazy, Well I know, but people. Yeah,

1:03:32

they have people come out and kind of consult them and tell them

1:03:34

what they need. And you know, you you tell them what you want

1:03:36

out of the out of the space and they

1:03:38

will provide it. I mean it's expensive again, but

1:03:41

um, that's the way people are doing this now. There's

1:03:43

there's garage reorganization

1:03:45

tricks that people are using, and you know

1:03:48

they're also sharing them online, which is nice. So

1:03:50

like if you if you have some ideas,

1:03:52

get online sharing with with other people in the community

1:03:54

that are excited about that type of thing too. And

1:03:57

yeah, who knows, maybe you know, some of the stuff will

1:03:59

be something that you

1:04:01

can see yourself doing, or maybe some of the stuff is

1:04:03

just so outlandish that you don't want it. Um, like

1:04:06

I'm not crazy about like customer,

1:04:08

you know, the lighting and stuff like that. Yeah,

1:04:11

yeah, I don't need anything like that, And I'm not I'm not really

1:04:13

sold on like epoxy floor coating or anything

1:04:16

like that yet. UM paint is fine

1:04:18

for now, you know, just an outdoor paint, but

1:04:20

something durable. But yeah, there's certain there's

1:04:22

like different levels that everybody's comfortable

1:04:25

with. And just find your own level, find

1:04:27

your own budget and uh and do it and you'll

1:04:29

be happy with it. And let us know what

1:04:32

improvements you have made to your garage. Let

1:04:35

us know what you got hilariously wrong

1:04:37

if you're in that situation, so that

1:04:39

we and your fellow listeners can learn

1:04:42

from those mistakes. You can

1:04:44

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1:04:46

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1:04:49

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1:04:51

you know, we'd love to see any pictures

1:04:53

you have. If you are one of those people

1:04:55

who got a wild hair and dug

1:04:58

your own inspection pit man, I

1:05:00

want to see that. Yeah, I would too, before

1:05:02

and after photos. That'd be kind of cool. That'd be super cool.

1:05:04

That would be in the meantime, let's see, Uh,

1:05:07

I'm going to start a shady emission stand.

1:05:10

You're moving into the Russian landfill turf

1:05:12

and and and Kurt, I guess you're gonna you're

1:05:15

gonna be selling secondhand portable garages.

1:05:18

Yeah, so we've got

1:05:20

stuff to do between now and then. So

1:05:23

I guess we'll have to get reports back from each one

1:05:25

of us about what's what's up right, that's right,

1:05:27

all right, let's do it all right, See you guys, see guys

1:05:29

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