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Welcome to car Stuff, a production of I

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Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hello

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everyone, and welcome to another episode of

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car Stuff. I am one of your hosts,

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Kurt Garren, and I'm here with oh

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Ben Bullen. That's me, Hey Kurt, Hey Ben.

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How are you doing today? I am always

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doing well when we get to hop on

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the air together. But I

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gotta I gotta say, man, I've

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been a little distracted recently,

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probably noticed around the office

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and a little loof loose,

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little absent minded because something

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happened recently that just it

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haunts me. Man I I can't get

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this image out of my mind? Would

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you be talking about Tesla's announcement

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of the cyber truck by each n How

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did you know? Is it because I've changed

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my screen saver to a cyber

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truck? Have you? Really? Is it because?

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Is it because I am considering

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getting a cyber truck tattoo? That part

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is not true. It is true, however, that

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you and I, like a lot of people, were

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to see the least surprised by

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the recent revelation of

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the Tesla cyber

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truck. The unveiling occurred

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on the twenty one November nineteen,

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just a few days back at the Tesla

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Design studio, which is next to SpaceX,

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and during this presentation,

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I don't know, how would you describe it? Eighties inspired,

1:30

dark, post apocalyptic, let's get

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a blade Runner vibe? Right? For sure. It

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made me revisit the highly underrated

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eighties car movie The Raith. I

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don't know if you're familiar with the cut. Yeah,

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yeah, that's the Wraith is from

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right, And it's not so much for the design

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of the car. The design of the car is very

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blade Runner. That's the comparison that most people

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are putting out there. It's just the feel

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of the whole thing. Is that eighties

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futuristic vibe? Yeah?

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Yeah, exactly the future as it

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was thought of in the eighties. Before

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we get into the details of the cybertruck, let's

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make this very very clear. It

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is a divisive announcement. When

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it occurs, Tesla's stock

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sinks like six percent immediately

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after the announcement. Some people called

2:18

it ugliest sin, some people thought

2:20

it was very cool in a sci fi retro

2:23

way. And probably

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the most off script thing that happened during

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the presentation was when

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Ellen Musk asked someone

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to demonstrate the amazing

2:34

properties of the Tesla armor

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glass that was in the vehicle. Remember

2:39

that. I think we actually have a clip

2:41

of it here we can play for you. Oh

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my god, Well,

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maybe that was a little too hard. It

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didn't go through yikes.

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Indeed, yes, So that was Franz

2:58

von Holshausen, who

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was the lead designer for Tesla.

3:02

We're hearing there is a test of

3:04

the bulletproof glass, so called

3:07

bulletproof glass. And as

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you heard Elon Musk himself say,

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the glass it didn't go through the glass.

3:14

This object that we're throwing at the windows,

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it did crack them.

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So people react to this he

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the guy throws this steel ball,

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and you can make a couple of different points about

3:26

the shape of the object thrown and how

3:29

that can affect the glass itself.

3:31

But to me it didn't seem like the hugest

3:33

deal. But a lot of people, a

3:36

lot of people instantly started ridiculing

3:38

the project for this, which I thought was

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a little unfair. Yeah. Well, but the glass

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wasn't supposed to break, and they

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did a test before the show and the glass

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did not break. The official reasoning

3:50

behind the glass breaking was that when they hit

3:52

the door panel with

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a mallet, which is a sledgehammer,

3:57

which is something that they did before they

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threw the ball ring at the window. The

4:01

hit from the mallet broke the glass

4:04

underneath I guess at the base of the glass,

4:06

so it kind of weakened it a little bit. Um,

4:09

So that's the official excuse or

4:12

the official reason. However. Yeah,

4:15

however, I mean you have to remember, basically, this

4:17

was production is down the road. I believe

4:19

production is going to start, so

4:22

basically looking at a very early mock up of

4:24

the truck anyway, So yeah, that's true.

4:27

But the technology was supposed to be there.

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So the glass broke for some reason, and there are

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some conspiracy theories behind why it

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broke, but really the only conspiracy

4:36

theory is that it was a publicity stunt. Right if

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you hear and see the reaction from Musk,

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you kind of know that Mrs

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embarrassed. He rolled with it, but

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he was, Yeah, it was I

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think it was clearly not scripted. A lot

4:50

of times when people try to script corporate

4:52

events like that, it's very obvious it's

4:54

better to be sincere in those events. I think

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he was sincerely surprised, but

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to bite getting criticized by people

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despite having a brief moment

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of internet meme popularity.

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When the clip of the broken window goes

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viral, or I would say the cracked window goes viral,

5:12

it appears that some

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people are big fans of this truck. Just

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two days later, on the twenty three November,

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Musk tweeted that Tesla had already

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received a hundred and forty six thousand

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pre orders in the first day and a half

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after the unveiling. Each of those pre

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orders requires a one dollar

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refundable deposit, so it's

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a promising sign. But what

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about the truck itself.

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We'll dive into the stats, the options,

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the trim after a word

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from our sponsor, and

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we've returned now, Kurt. One

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thing that stood out to both of us, I

5:55

think was the entry

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price point. Right now, they say

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the side Rich Chuck is we want to start at thirty nine thousand,

6:02

nine hundred dollars, So fairly low

6:04

price point for a groundbreaking

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vehicle. At least it's a landmark vehicle

6:09

for Tesla andsa ground breaking

6:11

vehicle when you when you talk about the pickup

6:13

truck in general, it's just a drastic reimagining.

6:16

No matter how you feel about the looks of

6:18

it. You have to give it props for

6:20

being different, which if you're

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one of those people that think different is cool, this

6:24

has got to be extremely cool. At that

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thirty nine thousand, nine hundred dollar price

6:29

point, that you get a single motor

6:31

rear wheel drive version that

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has a range of two hundred and fifty miles,

6:36

a zero to sixty speed of six

6:39

point five seconds in a top seed of a hundred

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and ten miles per hour. Not

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too shabby, And the payload is the same

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for there's three different versions. By the

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way, I don't know if I said that the payload for

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them all is thirty five hundred pounds.

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The toe rating for the base model

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is seventy hundred pounds. Well,

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let's let's say I get a little bit of scratch,

7:00

I got a little extra cheddar in

7:03

the bank. What could I get if I step

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up a little? Well, if you step up a little, you will be

7:07

looking at a dual motor all wheel drive

7:10

version. I believe this is the one that most people

7:12

are going for. When you were speaking about the

7:14

pre orders, I think this is the one that most people have their

7:16

eye on and has a three hundred plus

7:19

mile range. I don't know how much further

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that plus is going to get you Zero to sixty

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is four point five seconds. In the

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top speed is ten miles an hour

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more than the base model

7:30

at a hundred and twenty. Again, the payload is the

7:32

same and the tow rating is ten thousand

7:35

pounds. Okay, so you can haul

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two thousand five more pounds.

7:39

Right, It's faster and it

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has a wider range. Okay,

7:44

Well, you know what, Kurt, Let's say

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that I have been saving

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my pennies. You know, I've been working

7:51

on the side selling artists

7:53

in Scotch tape or whatever, and

7:55

I've got even more money to spend.

7:58

And I and I say, you know, the dual

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motor all will drive is okay, but h

8:03

wait, wait, what can you do for me a loan?

8:05

If I give you even more money? Well, if you

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really did well and you had

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seventy thousand dollars to spend, you will

8:12

get a tri motor all

8:14

wheel drive trucks. So that's three motors.

8:16

They're looking at five hundred mile range, two

8:18

point nine seconds zero to sixty

8:21

with that instant torque. Top speed is a hundred

8:23

and thirty miles per hour. Payload is the same

8:25

throughout the range and it can tow

8:27

fourteen thousand pounds. Oh yeah, it looks

8:29

like I'm going for the tri motor, And you're correct.

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Most people did choose the dual motor.

8:34

All will Drive forty two chose

8:37

that when chose tri motor,

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and only seventeen of people

8:42

and the pre orders chose the base

8:44

model, the single motor configuration.

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So numbers are still coming

8:49

in for pre orders. They've already broken two

8:52

hundred thousand as of the past

8:54

few days. And now

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I have to ask. I know that we have,

9:01

like everybody has their own set of aesthetics.

9:03

What some people think is beautiful, some people

9:06

think is ugly. I personally

9:08

really warmed to the cyber

9:10

truck partially because

9:12

of the I'm interested

9:15

in the material design of

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it, you know, uh, the unibody

9:20

construction, the fact that

9:22

it's such a mix of marketing and

9:25

engineering because they have a unibody

9:27

construction like most cars, but

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they call it an exoskeleton. And

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it's weird because trucks typically

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have body on frame construction.

9:36

This thing has pretty thick, stainless

9:39

steel body panels. The

9:41

reasoning it doesn't have a lot of curves is

9:44

because these body panels cannot be

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stamped like other automobile

9:49

parts. They can only bend along straight

9:51

lines. And that's why people

9:53

have said this looks like a car from a PlayStation

9:56

one game or something, you know, which.

9:58

I think it's funny. It's im fair. Other

10:00

people are completely all in

10:02

on the idea of this truck, but people

10:05

have been people have been pretty critical.

10:07

One thing I did just for fun, by

10:10

the way, was I went to the

10:12

Tesla website and started looking

10:15

into the pre order and

10:17

design of the truck. So if I

10:19

go for the tri motor, all will drive

10:22

as you said, sixty nine dollars.

10:25

Let's say I want to add the self

10:27

driving software. That's an extra seven

10:29

thousand dollars and do

10:32

today. We just need to give them a

10:34

credit card so

10:36

they could get a hundred dollars and

10:38

then for the rest of it, I'll just tell Mr

10:41

Musk that the check is in the mail. Yeah. I feel

10:43

like a lot of people are just paying the

10:45

one hundred dollars to get their name

10:47

on the list so they can say they got their

10:49

name on the list with no intention of buying

10:51

the car when it comes out. Possibly, I

10:53

mean, I wonder, Okay, so they say that they

10:56

say that deposit is refundable,

10:59

but maybe it's not refundable if you'd change

11:01

your mind, you know what I mean. Well,

11:03

apparently Must kind of puts these ideas

11:05

out there, and many

11:08

of them come to fruition, but some of

11:10

them don't. So we'll I have to

11:12

see when it comes out if these three versions

11:14

stay the same, if it even looks the same. Because

11:16

I was intrigued about the tires. I'm

11:18

just wondering what kind of tires this thing has

11:20

on it, because the tires have little

11:23

elements of them that go with the

11:26

wheel design, so it's not just some

11:28

regular tire you can buy. I mean, I'm sure you can put

11:30

the standard tire on there. However, kind of ruins

11:33

the look a little bit. So even

11:35

the tires, to me, are kind of interesting. What will

11:37

the final product look like? Another issue

11:39

that I took with the design, which I like overall.

11:42

I liked it initially when I saw it, and I still

11:45

like it. But the bed of the

11:47

truck is not accessible from the side,

11:49

So if you're using this as a you would normally use

11:51

a pickup truck, you would normally throw

11:53

things over the side. Sometimes

11:56

you'll go around to the back loaded through the tailgate.

11:58

However, a lot of times if you're lumber

12:01

furniture, you might want to lift

12:03

it over on on the side of the of

12:06

the bed. And this one, the way the angle comes

12:08

down off the bat glass, it doesn't seem

12:10

like you would be able to get to the back of the bed

12:12

of the truck from the side is easily. Yeah.

12:14

This goes into a question that

12:16

I wanted to bring to you into you, fellow

12:18

listeners. Whenever somebody designs

12:21

or makes a new car, new

12:23

vehicle of any sort, when the first questions

12:25

they have to ask is who is this vehicle for?

12:28

And in the case

12:31

of the cyber truck, there

12:33

have been critics who are saying, you know,

12:36

this is not a truck for truck people.

12:39

How do you feel about that? I don't I mean this

12:42

to me, that's a broad statement. I

12:44

don't really know who truck people are. Some people

12:46

totally just have their beat work

12:48

truck, you know what I mean? Uh?

12:50

And then other people might have a

12:52

really nice F one fifty that's their daily

12:55

driver. And Christine

12:57

right, the type is slow down its speed

13:00

ums, which is so ridiculous.

13:02

But you know, what's your car? Do what you will? With it.

13:04

The reason I bring up that criticism

13:07

is because I feel like me, Okay,

13:09

I see your point about practicality

13:11

for that pickup bed, but maybe

13:14

it's just so new and so different

13:17

that we have to give it time for

13:20

We have to give the car buying audience

13:23

time to pick it up as well,

13:25

because if it turns out that it does

13:27

the stuff he says it will do, then

13:30

people will buy it. Well, the demo

13:33

they did during the concept event,

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that's what I'm calling it,

13:38

was loading it. So they drove an a TV that

13:40

they've designed. I don't know if

13:42

they're going to be producing this a TV, but

13:44

it's an electric ATV. They drove up

13:46

onto the back of the into

13:49

the bed of the truck, and it aesthetically matches.

13:51

Yeah, it looks cool and you can plug it in

13:53

and the bed and charge it and it has a

13:55

nice ramp that extends

13:58

from the tailgate to the ground. Um,

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so I think that's what they see the bed

14:03

of the truck being used for more like

14:05

a roll on, roll off situation

14:08

rather than if by truck person you

14:10

mean someone who wants to use their truck to haul

14:13

things every day in I'm

14:15

not sure that this particular truck is

14:17

made for those types of folks,

14:19

but like it can go off road, but does it look

14:21

like an off road truck? Does it feel

14:24

like one when you drive it? You know what I mean? That's

14:26

what I've been thinking about as well. Let's

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pause for a moment for a word from our sponsor,

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and we'll be back with some more updates

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on the Tesla cyber truck. In

14:40

a late development, at least

14:42

as of recording of this show, Ford

14:45

had challenged Tesla two

14:48

heads up match Tesla

14:50

release a video of the

14:53

cyber truck pulling or out

14:55

pulling a Ford F one

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and pulling it uphill. So

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somebody from Ford sent out this

15:02

message of send us

15:04

the cyber truck so we can do a head to

15:06

head test of our own and see

15:08

which one will win. I initially

15:10

thought when I saw that that it was crazy. I believe

15:13

that the Tesla would probably the electric

15:15

truck would probably outperform the F

15:18

one internal combustion

15:20

engine because I thought it would

15:22

just because of the instant uh, because the application

15:25

torque. Yeah, apparently, though they did not

15:27

use a high end F one in this

15:29

test. For in this comparison,

15:32

Neil de Grass Tyson weighed in. Yeah,

15:34

he weighed in and said that they needed

15:37

to make the test fair because

15:39

I think that's how the Ford thing happened, right,

15:41

because people watched that video

15:43

that you mentioned and I saw it too, and a

15:46

lot of people criticize this for

15:48

being They said, you know, he stacked at the deck a

15:50

little. Neil de grass Tyson said, electric

15:53

vehicles are famously heavy over both

15:55

axles. It's all about the weight born by spinning

15:57

tires. That's the source of traction, not

15:59

the engine power. And then

16:02

Musk agreed and responded

16:05

to Neil de grass Tyson.

16:07

He said electric motors also have

16:09

insane torque. If we load both trucks

16:11

to the max, electric still wins. Physics

16:14

is the law. Everything else is a recommendation.

16:17

Neil de grass Tyson responds and says, we

16:19

all love to work, but high torque just spinds

16:21

a tire in place. If there's not enough

16:23

weight to provide traction, fully

16:25

load the F one fifty giving highest traction

16:28

to its rear wheels, then try

16:30

to drag that up the hill. I otherwise

16:32

agree load both to the max, and the highest

16:34

torque wins, which I thought was a fair point. That's

16:36

a fair point, but then you would be modifying the F one,

16:39

you know what I mean, you be kind of so as

16:42

is well, load load them both and then

16:44

see which one wins. And I

16:46

believe the conclusion was the electric motor

16:48

would still win out. So there's a

16:50

Ford executive named Sonny Madra who

16:53

also saw this video and

16:56

wrote to Allen Musk on

16:58

Twitter and said, hey,

17:00

uh, you know, let's have a fair

17:03

F one fifty versus cyber truck

17:05

tugg of war, and La Musk

17:08

just said bring it on. He accepted

17:10

the challenge. I believe they're gonna

17:12

end up doing this even though Ford

17:14

has backed out. That's right, they backed

17:17

down. Uh. There was a

17:19

Ford spokesperson who said Sunny's

17:22

tweet was tongue in cheek to point out the

17:24

absurdity of Tesla's video. Nothing

17:26

more. With America's best selling

17:28

truck for forty two years, We've always

17:30

focused on serving our truck customers

17:33

regardless of what others say or do.

17:35

We look forward to our all new F one fifty

17:38

hybrid coming next year and all electric

17:40

F one fifty in a few years. So they're

17:42

also working arduously

17:44

toward an all electric pickup

17:47

truck, which still sounds kind of weird

17:51

just to me personally, because I always

17:53

associate the hauling power

17:55

of trucks with internal combustion engines. Maybe

17:57

I'm just the old man. Maybe I'm getting old. Is

18:00

going to be several other electric

18:02

trucks out when

18:04

the Tesla comes out as well, so they

18:06

will have competition, although Tesla

18:09

has kind of made their marks being one

18:11

of the leaders in in that category.

18:13

When you think of electric vehicle, you

18:15

don't think of a Ford or a Chevy,

18:18

you know, you don't think of the Volta. You

18:21

think of Tesla because that's what they

18:23

do. They're of a

18:25

Nissan Leaf, right, Yeah, I mean

18:28

the nic but um

18:31

Tesla started out as an electric car company

18:34

and they're all in. So that's

18:36

to me that makes me want to route for them,

18:38

you know, like that's their innovative in that capacity.

18:41

I mean, they developed partnerships with other companies

18:43

along the way. I think Toyota has a

18:45

partnership with them. Yeah.

18:48

It's just so difficult to

18:51

start a card company. So many

18:53

people have tried, so many people have failed,

18:56

and in at least one case, in

18:59

the case of Tucker, they were shut

19:01

down by the existing automobile

19:04

companies. I know that sounds conspiratorial,

19:06

but I do believe that. But I see

19:08

your point because we're talking about

19:10

a company that doesn't They

19:13

don't do this on the side, They weren't

19:15

doing something else and then just decided,

19:17

Hey, let's try to make an electric car. This is what they

19:19

wanted to do from day one, and

19:22

it's something that they have done successfully

19:25

over a couple of different iterations

19:27

and they haven't gone under yet. And the fact

19:29

that other car companies are following

19:32

suit lead me to believe that the other car

19:34

companies feel as if this is where the

19:36

market is heading. Eventually, it

19:38

might be later rather than sooner,

19:41

but the technology is building

19:43

in that direction. I have question for you, my friend.

19:46

Did you see the camping mode?

19:49

Check this out? So this is another

19:51

thing that makes me think. It makes

19:53

me wonder whether all of this is marketing or

19:56

all of this is an indication

19:59

of how serious they are here. So

20:01

if you look up cybertruck

20:03

camping mode, what you'll see is polygonal

20:07

tent. It's still very much in line

20:09

with the design of the truck itself,

20:12

and uh, this is part of

20:14

their camping package. So if

20:16

this thing really comes out and I think this part is

20:18

cool. You'll get a tent with

20:21

a raised sleeping floor and a slide

20:23

out electric stove that

20:25

runs off the battery pack, of course, but

20:28

again that's if this stuff works

20:30

out. We should also mention even

20:32

though it doesn't feel like an off road

20:34

car, it's got the clearance is clearly designed

20:37

to be off road. Yeah. Yeah. One

20:39

of the things that I found interesting

20:41

when looking at the car that they were showing off

20:43

in the event was the fact

20:45

that the vehicle had no windshield

20:47

wipers, no rear view mirrors

20:50

on the side. Is these things that make vehicles

20:52

street legal, basically headlights, turn

20:55

signals, that sort of things. It's like little

20:57

little touches that get in the way of maybe

20:59

the overall aesthetic of the vehicle, but are still

21:01

necessary, at least right now. Because the headlight

21:04

is just one long stripe. Yeah, it's a light

21:06

bar. Yeah it has fog

21:08

lights, but I'm not sure how they're gonna

21:10

incorporate turn signals into that. And the rear lights

21:12

are they probably suffice, but

21:15

they're they're also very small. The

21:17

interior is a little sparse

21:19

for my taste, and I'm kind of a minimalist

21:21

too, but I just feel like it's

21:24

if you if you look at the available footage

21:26

of the interior, what you see

21:29

is pretty cool looking steering wheel,

21:31

a yoke, yeah yeah,

21:34

and uh, and then a touch pad

21:37

and that's it. And the touch pad is just sort of to

21:39

the right of the yoke, and then there's

21:42

what looks to be a marble countertop

21:44

and that's just the vehicle and that looks a little sparse

21:47

to be I know, it's different when can get all the info

21:49

displayed on that touch screen,

21:51

but man, when that thing's off, it's

21:54

like it just bones.

21:58

Yeah, it's weird to me. I'm a storage

22:00

either. I like my glove boxes to

22:02

cram full of whatever. You

22:04

know. I think there's a lot of things that they haven't

22:07

taken into account yet with the design

22:09

of the car. Safety would be one of those aspects

22:11

that they I don't think they fully incorporated yet.

22:14

Tesla is known for having

22:16

high safety standards, so I'm sure that in the final

22:19

vehicle they will change the design

22:21

a little bit to accommodate for safety.

22:23

That sort of thing, the ultra hard materials

22:26

that it's made of, would make me want

22:28

to believe that they're going to add something something

22:31

in the form of a bumper. Maybe

22:33

because the concept car doesn't have bumpers,

22:35

and I think rear view mirror or

22:37

syve view mirrors are required on

22:40

cars. Maybe they're thinking that

22:42

in the future. Yeah,

22:44

in the future, they'll just have cameras around the car

22:47

and that will suffice. But um,

22:49

I don't know, man, maybe not Abe. I

22:52

still am a little distrustful of cameras,

22:55

just because I drive an older vehicle, and

22:57

like, I know, backup cameras are cool and

23:00

I see how useful they are, but I would

23:02

still want to have a rear view mirror just

23:05

in case something breaks. I found something

23:07

interesting. People have been comparing

23:09

the cyber truck and the four

23:12

D F one fifty, and some

23:14

people are saying that the cyber truck comes out

23:16

on top when you look at the stats. Uh,

23:19

you know, even the

23:21

the rear well drive single engine configuration,

23:24

the thirty nine thousand dollar one, it

23:26

is apparently better than Ford's twenty

23:29

eight thousand, five hundred

23:31

or four hundred nine six F one fifty,

23:34

And you can see how things stack up. So

23:36

F one fifty has a lower price point,

23:38

but the cyber truck has a higher maximum

23:41

payload because one

23:43

fifty can carry three thousand, two hundred

23:45

seventy pounds, but the cybertruck can

23:47

carry three thousand, five hundred. They can

23:50

they can both seat six people, not comfortably,

23:52

because we all remember, I'm sure

23:54

everybody listening at some point has had to

23:56

squeeze into an extended cap truck. It's

23:59

this same way that tents will say,

24:01

like, hey, you can sleep three people in

24:03

this tent or two people with equipment

24:06

or one person in their equipment comfortably. But

24:08

the cyber truck. This is what you inspired

24:11

me to to look into this group, because the

24:13

cyber truck apparently has more

24:16

exterior storage space than the

24:18

F one fifty, not a crazy amount,

24:20

more as a hundred cubic feet of storage space

24:22

outside cyber truck, yeah, outside of the cab,

24:25

and the F one fifty has seventy

24:27

seven point four cubic feet

24:29

the length of the bed. There's six

24:32

point five feet on the cyber

24:34

truck, so there's space They must be

24:36

making up for some of that space on

24:39

the side creatively,

24:41

I guess right, because

24:43

six point five ft is not a very long

24:46

bed. There's also a front

24:49

storage area. Uh

24:51

I think they called it a front front trunk

24:54

or I just called it that. Sorry, I'm not

24:56

sure that sounds right to me. Thanks,

24:58

man, I believe it. Thanks. And so

25:01

here's where here's where we hit the here's where

25:03

we hit the road on this. Knowing

25:05

what we know now and assuming

25:07

that price is no object, would

25:10

you drive this truck? Of course? Yeah?

25:12

Yeah. To me, this particular truck has the

25:14

potential to steer the market in a different

25:16

direction. It's it's

25:18

different, and that's I

25:20

believe that's good right now for the car industry.

25:23

That's one thing that I like about the car industry

25:26

of fifties sixties,

25:28

where there was innovation, but there were also these

25:30

design and aesthetic aspects that were

25:32

taken into account when designing

25:34

cars. Now, the industry seems like

25:36

it's in a little bit of a rut, maybe balancing

25:38

costs things like that, where

25:41

the designs of the vehicles are kind of

25:43

they're a little cookie cutter, a little boring.

25:46

One thing you can say about the cyber truck is

25:48

that it isn't boring as far as it's designed.

25:50

It's a pretty bold design. Love it or hate

25:52

it, it's um it's definitely

25:54

different. And so that's kind

25:57

of where I stand on it. Yeah, as

25:59

far as driving

26:01

a truck, I'm not sure that I'm

26:04

one of those truck people right now, but

26:07

maybe one I will be. Maybe.

26:09

I'm just gonna go ahead and say that if I were

26:11

in that position wishes were horsepower

26:14

and so on, I

26:16

would definitely get it because I want

26:18

to do Blade Runner, you

26:20

know, I want to do like a Blade Runner thing and change

26:22

my whole vibe. I'll just always dress like a

26:25

sci fi film from that

26:27

era, you know what I mean, like fighting mutants

26:29

and U replicants and stuff like

26:31

real tight leather clothes. I

26:33

don't know. I don't know about that. Man.

26:36

I'm probably I'm gonna see if Tesla can

26:38

also make me an exo skeleton of

26:40

my own, they can create one for you.

26:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So maybe I'll start Blade

26:44

Runner and Iron Man with

26:46

my cyber truck. Just the way,

26:49

just the the language that they used

26:51

during this event bothered me a little

26:53

bit. Really, yeah, I get that

26:56

these people are creators, they

26:58

are innovators. Just to

27:00

talk about the way they were talking

27:02

about we created an exo

27:04

scale. Well

27:08

no, remember this is the same guy who

27:10

sold flame throwers. I

27:13

haven't heard about this. So he has something

27:15

called the Boring Company Elon Musk

27:18

and they sell a product called the Boring

27:20

Company, not a flamethrower, but

27:22

they sold twenty oh you can't buy one

27:24

now. They sold twenty thousand flame

27:26

throwers. Fire extinguishers are

27:28

sold separately. Do you have to review the

27:31

terms and conditions and so on? But yeah,

27:33

the Boring Company has a lot of has a lot

27:35

of cool stuff going on. It's also where

27:38

he talks a little bit about the

27:41

hyperlop concept. I believe that's

27:43

a train. Yeah, well, yeah,

27:46

it's like a sealed transportation

27:50

high speed rail. Yeah. Oh, which

27:52

we should talk about in a future episode. Definitely.

27:56

All right, Ben, let's throw the question out there

27:58

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28:00

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28:02

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