Mathias Clasen, nervous person and horror researcher, joins me to talk about scary movies, the virtues of horror literature, and why we're drawn to the dark side.

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GUEST LINKS
Mathias book: 'A Very Nervous Person's Guide to Horror Movies'
Mathias' Aeon article
Mathias' Twitter: @mathiasclasen

THINGS WE MENTIONED
History of Halloween
Hereditary
Rope, Alfred Hitchcock
James Cutting
I Am Legend (novel)
The Call of Cthulu, Supernatural Horror in Literature, H.P. Lovecraft
'Morbid curiosity', Colton Scrivner
William James
Henry James, The Turn of the Screw
Robin Wood
Jonathan Gottschall, 'storytelling animals'

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