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0:15
Pushkin a
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mental health institution. A
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psychiatrist is assessing whether
0:28
a new patient needs to be admitted.
0:31
I'm not going to stay. I'm
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not going to stay. Please, Miss
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Tierney, relax, take a seat,
0:39
Miss Tierney. Miss Jean
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Tierney then one of
0:43
the most famous women in the world. She
0:46
had taken Hollywood by storm in the nineteen
0:48
forties, starring in Laura the
0:51
Razor's Edge and as fem
0:53
Fatale Ellen Barrant in Leave
0:56
Her to Heaven, which earned
0:58
her an Academy Award nomination for
1:00
Best Actress. But
1:03
now it's years later and
1:05
Jean Tierney hasn't starred in a movie
1:08
for a while. Sadly,
1:11
it's not hard to see why. Nowadays
1:14
she spends a lot of time sleeping whole
1:17
days, sometimes two at a time.
1:21
Then there were the delusions, and
1:24
that means the steak must be for you,
1:26
ma'am. Take that back to the kitchen. I'm
1:29
sorry, ma'am. Is it not cooked? Your
1:31
satisfaction? Please just take
1:33
it back to the kitchen. Gane,
1:35
what are you doing. You can't go on like
1:37
this. You must eat. I
1:39
won't eat that food, mother. They're
1:43
trying to poison me. No
1:46
wonder Jean's mother has brought
1:48
her to a psychiatrist. Who
1:50
do you think is trying
1:53
to poison you, Miss Dyrney? I
1:55
don't know if I can trust you.
1:57
You might be one of them. Who are
1:59
you concerned about, Miss Dyrney? The
2:02
Communists? Jean is worried
2:04
about the Communists, but
2:07
she's not going to tell him that. How
2:10
do you spend your time nowadays? Scrubbing
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the kitchen floor? It's true,
2:15
Jeane likes to scrub the kitchen floor.
2:18
It's something she can do without
2:20
having to think. You know, miss Dearne,
2:23
that you'll have to stay so
2:25
that we can help you. You can't force
2:27
me. No one wants to force you. We
2:30
can work on your problem and you might
2:32
even have fun. Do you have any
2:34
floors that can scrub? What
2:39
had caused Jean Tierney's mind to become
2:41
so tragically unmoored. Her
2:44
family did have a history of mental illness.
2:47
Her aunt, her mother's sister, had
2:50
also been convinced that she was being
2:52
poisoned, But
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Jean herself later wrote a memoir
2:56
tracing her breakdown to a decision
2:59
made by one of her fans a
3:01
decade and a half earlier. That
3:03
decision is one that might feel
3:06
disturbingly familiar to
3:08
many of us today. I'm
3:12
Tim Harford and you're listening
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to cautionary tales. Jean
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Tierney never intended to be an actress.
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She came from a well to do family. Her
3:49
father was a New York insurance broker.
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She had been to finishing school in Lausanne,
3:54
Switzerland. Girls
3:56
from her class didn't become actresses.
3:59
They married a Yale man and made
4:01
a home in Connecticut. That
4:04
all changed when Jean was seventeen.
4:07
On a family holiday in California, she
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went on a Hollywood studio tour where
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a director approached her with the immortal
4:15
line, young lady,
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you ought to be in pictures? Could
4:20
she come back tomorrow for a screen test?
4:23
She did, and she was offered a contract.
4:26
Her father, the insurance man, wasn't
4:29
keen. He insisted
4:31
that she at least continue the plan to
4:33
make her debut in high society
4:35
back on the East Coast. He
4:37
was sure she'd be so excited by the
4:40
social whirl of country club dances
4:42
that she'd soon forget any pipe dreams
4:44
of the movies. I am so bored,
4:47
I think I will die. Jean's
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father grudgingly agreed, to help her
4:51
get into acting. She found
4:53
an agent and roles on Broadway.
4:56
The critics loved her. She signed
4:58
with twentieth Century Fox, and in
5:00
nineteen forty she starred in her
5:02
first film, a Western, with
5:05
Henry Fonda. She landed
5:07
more leading roles. She got invited
5:10
to much cooler parties. Yet
5:12
one of them she met a man. I
5:15
thought he was the most dangerous
5:17
looking character I'd ever seen. Not
5:20
handsome, but dangerous in a seductive
5:23
way. The man was
5:25
Oleg Cassini, a Russian
5:27
Italian fashion designer. Jean's
5:29
family did not approve
5:33
he wasn't a Yale man. He hadn't
5:35
even gone to Harvard. Jean
5:37
and Oleg decided to elope.
5:40
They booked flights to Las Vegas under
5:42
assumed names. In June
5:44
nineteen forty one, they were married.
5:47
Jean was just twenty years
5:50
old. While
5:56
Jean and Oleg were getting hitched in
5:58
Vegas, on the other side of the
6:00
world, an eye surgeon was
6:02
puzzling over a mysterious wave
6:04
of cases, all referred by
6:06
pediatricians. Norman mc
6:09
alis to Gregg worked in a hospital in Sydney,
6:11
Australia, in the first half
6:13
of nineteen forty one, he had found
6:15
himself seeing cataracts in newborn
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baby after newborn baby. The
6:21
cataracts were obvious from birth as
6:23
dense white opacities completely
6:25
occupying the pupillary area. Most
6:28
of the babies were of small size, ill
6:30
nourished, and difficult to feed. Many
6:32
of them were found to be suffering from a congenital
6:34
defect of the heart. It
6:37
had seemed twenty cases himself and
6:39
had heard about more from his colleagues elsewhere
6:41
in Australia. Something strange
6:44
was going on. But what
6:47
Greg looked at the babies dates of birth
6:51
Six to nine months earlier, an
6:53
epidemic of rubella, often
6:55
known as German measles, had swept
6:57
to Australia. Could
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there be a connection? Gregg
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asked the mothers if they'd had German measles
7:04
when they were pregnant. Most
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said yes, some could
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remember, but that wasn't too surprising
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as rubella is typically not too serious
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a rash a few days of fever. If
7:17
you had a mild case, you might not even
7:19
notice. Gregg
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published his speculations in the Transactions
7:24
of the Ophthalmological Society of
7:27
Australia. I think it is
7:29
reasonable to assume that the occurrence
7:32
cannot be a mere coincidence. Not
7:35
everyone was convinced. Could
7:37
such a minor infection in a pregnant
7:39
woman really cause such severe
7:42
birth defects. To many
7:44
doctors, it seemed unlikely. Still,
7:47
it was worth looking into. The
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National Health and Research Council of Australia
7:52
decided to investigate. Two
8:01
years later, in nineteen forty
8:03
three, America had entered
8:05
the Second World War. Jeane Tierney's
8:07
husband, Oleg Cassine, joined
8:09
the army. It had just been posted
8:12
to Fort Riley in Kansas. Jean
8:14
was preparing to join him, but there was
8:16
something she wanted to do first. One
8:19
last appearance at the Hollywood
8:21
Canteen. The Canteen
8:24
was the movie industry's way of giving moral
8:26
support to the war effort. A
8:28
social club with free entry for
8:31
anyone in an American military uniform.
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The stars would entertain them, serve
8:36
them food, chat to them, and dance
8:38
with them. Betty Davis, Rita
8:41
Hayworth, Marlena Dietrich, Bob
8:43
Hope. They were all regulars. Jean
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hadn't been for a while. She felt
8:49
bad about that. At
8:51
a nearby camp of the United States
8:53
Marine Corps Women's Reserve that
8:56
gave one young woman a moral
8:58
dilemma. Have you heard Jean
9:01
Tyranny's at the Hollywood Canteen tonight.
9:03
What a shame? We can't go. They
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couldn't go because their camp was
9:09
quarantine. There'd been an outbreak
9:11
of German measles. It was generally
9:14
a mild disease, but still in
9:16
wartime, the military doesn't want
9:18
any kind of infection ripping through the ranks,
9:21
potentially putting a lot of people out of action
9:23
at once. I know we're not supposed
9:26
to, but you're not thinking a break in
9:28
quarantine. Oh, I feel fine. And
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Gene Tierney, she's my
9:33
favorite. There were two
9:35
things that young marine didn't know.
9:38
She didn't know about the article Norman
9:40
McAllister Gregg had published in the
9:42
Transactions of the Ophthalmological
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Society of Australia. Why
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would she and you
9:48
might have guessed. The second thing
9:51
she didn't know Gene
9:53
Tierney was
9:55
pregnant. We'll
9:59
discover the consequences of the Marine's
10:02
mistake in a moment. A
10:11
few days after her appearance at
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the Hollywood Canteen, Jean
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went to see her doctor. I've
10:18
got these red spots all over
10:20
my face. You have Rubella,
10:23
nothing to worry about. You'll be fine
10:25
within a week. And she was,
10:28
or so it seemed. Jean
10:31
went to Kansas and lived the life of an
10:33
army wife at Fort Riley, scrubbing
10:35
o Leg's laundry, and she had
10:37
her baby, a daughter. They
10:40
called her Daria. She
10:42
was fair and blond, a beautiful
10:45
child. But Daria
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was born premature. She weighed
10:50
just two and a half pounds.
10:52
She needed eleven blood transfusions.
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She had a cataract in the corner of an eye.
10:58
As the months went by, Jean fought
11:01
the realization that Daria wasn't
11:03
developing as she should. When
11:06
the baby waved her hands in front of her eyes
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seemed to be struggling to see them. It
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also appeared that she couldn't hear. When
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Daria was a year old, Jean was
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leafing through a newspaper an
11:19
article jumped out at her. It
11:22
was about a newly published study in
11:24
Australia. Researchers
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had been looking into a theory first suggested
11:28
by a Sydney eye surgeon, and
11:31
now there was evidence doctor
11:34
Gregg had been right. When a
11:36
pregnant woman gets German measles
11:38
in her first trimester, there's a risk
11:40
of serious birth defects. Jeanne
11:44
took the article to her daughter's pediatrician,
11:47
hoping to be told that something could be done to
11:49
make Daria better. The
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doctor was diplomatic, new
11:54
research was being done all the time, and
11:56
who knows what might one day be possible,
11:59
but it was clear that he wasn't optimistic.
12:04
Soon after, Jeanne was at a Sunday
12:06
afternoon tennis party in Los Angeles.
12:09
A young woman approached her. I
12:11
don't suppose you remember me, do you? Why?
12:14
No? Should I? I'm in the women's branch
12:17
of the Marines. We met once at
12:19
the Hollywood Canteen. Let's
12:22
add two more items to the
12:24
list of things that the marine
12:26
now didn't know. She didn't
12:28
know about Daria's disabilities. In
12:31
those days, such things simply
12:33
weren't talked about, and surely
12:35
she hadn't read the newspaper article that
12:37
jean had taken to her pediatrician,
12:40
making clear that rubella could be something
12:42
far more than a minor inconvenience.
12:45
You know, I probably shouldn't tell you this,
12:48
but almost the whole camp was down
12:50
with German measles. I brought
12:52
quarantine to come to the Canteen to meet the stars.
12:55
Everyone told me I shouldn't, but I just
12:58
had to go, and you were
13:00
my favorite. I've
13:05
often thought about Jean Tierney during
13:07
the COVID pandemic, and the news
13:09
has served up depressing stories
13:11
about people acting thoughtlessly like
13:14
that young marine. Take the
13:16
case of Brady Sluda. He
13:18
was a college student from Ohio
13:21
went to a spring break party in Miami
13:23
in March twenty twenty before
13:25
the widespread lockdowns. But spring
13:27
break came far enough into the news of the pandemic
13:30
that Sluda really should have known better
13:32
than to tell a journalist if I get
13:34
Corona, I get Corona. At the end
13:36
of the day, I'm not going to let start me from Vardian.
13:40
Brady's problem was thinking of himself
13:42
only as a potential victim of
13:44
the coronavirus. If that were
13:46
true, his view would be completely
13:48
defensible. COVID was
13:51
unlikely to be serious for someone of his
13:53
age, and you're any young wants But
13:56
of course we're not just potential
13:58
victims of COVID. We're potential
14:01
vectors. We can catch it,
14:03
incubate it without even knowing, and
14:05
then pass it on to someone else whom
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it might be a much bigger deal that
14:11
can be easy to forget. Consider
14:15
some of the reactions to a widely reported
14:18
study of mask wearing early
14:20
in the pandemic, before most governments
14:23
were mandating the use of masks. Some
14:25
Danish researchers recruited six thousand
14:27
people to a randomized controlled trial
14:30
the best way of gathering evidence about what works.
14:33
They gave half the group masks
14:35
and instructions about wearing them, as
14:37
well as some standard advice on social
14:40
distancing. The other half,
14:42
the control group, got only the
14:44
advice to social distance. The
14:47
results over the next
14:49
few weeks, a fraction under
14:51
two percent of the mask wearing group
14:54
got COVID. Among
14:56
the non mask wearers, it was a fraction
14:59
over two percent. The
15:01
anti lockdown group Keep Britain
15:03
Free shared the news like this Denmark
15:07
proves mask are not effective,
15:10
but the Danish study didn't prove any
15:13
such thing. Keep
15:15
Britain Free was thinking of mask wearers
15:17
only as potential victims,
15:19
and if your sole concern about COVID
15:22
is getting the disease yourself, this
15:24
particular study did indeed suggest
15:27
that wearing a mask wouldn't do
15:29
much to help you. But that's
15:31
not the only reason we wear masks,
15:34
or even the main reason we
15:36
wear masks to protect others from
15:38
virus particles that might be coming out of
15:40
our own mouths and noses. We
15:42
wear masks because we understand that
15:44
we're not just potential victims,
15:47
we're potential vectors. Rubello
15:52
is like COVID in that it's far more dangerous
15:54
for some people than others, But
15:57
that wasn't common knowledge in nineteen forty
15:59
three. And before we rush
16:01
to judge the young marine, perhaps
16:04
we should first look at ourselves. Have
16:07
you ever gone into work when you should have in
16:09
sick? If you're a parent, have
16:12
you ever sent your child to school or daycare
16:14
when they weren't fully recovered from an illness.
16:18
Research from twenty nineteen found
16:20
that ninety percent of US white
16:22
collar workers sometimes or
16:24
always came into the office when
16:26
they're coughing and sneezing. Perhaps
16:29
surprisingly, they said that the main reason
16:31
wasn't lack of sick leave or pressure
16:33
from the boss. It was wanting to keep
16:36
on top of work. But
16:38
researchers calculate that more productivity
16:40
is lost by people coming into work when they're
16:43
sick than by people taking cheeky
16:45
days off when they aren't that's
16:48
partly because coughing and sneezing all
16:50
over your co workers makes
16:52
them sick and unproductive too.
16:55
As for sending children to school, check
16:58
out this advertising campaign from a
17:00
local government website in the UK, The
17:03
Pushy parent Get Them to School.
17:06
A page on the local government's website explain
17:08
that parents should force their kids
17:11
to go to school if they complain of feeling
17:13
a bit unwell. Putting your foot
17:15
down isn't always easy, but one hundred
17:17
percent attendance should be every parent's
17:19
goal. This
17:22
attendance campaign, like the
17:24
research into white collar sneezers, was
17:26
from twenty nineteen, pre pandemic.
17:30
Even then, the pro attendance
17:32
cheerleading was criticized. Isn't
17:34
it courteous to other parents to keep
17:36
your child at home when they might have something
17:39
contagious? After
17:41
COVID the campaign web page now
17:43
has a slightly different message. Sorry,
17:46
the page you asked for could not be found. It
17:49
may have been moved or deleted after
17:53
the break. Agatha Christie
17:56
puts her own spin on the story.
18:09
You know, I probably shouldn't tell you
18:11
this, but almost the whole camp
18:13
was down with German measles. I
18:15
brought quarantine to come to the canteen to meet
18:17
the stars. As
18:20
the young marine at the tennis party made her
18:22
confession to Jean Tierney, she
18:24
was utterly unaware of the impact
18:27
she might have had on Tierney and her daughter.
18:30
One can only imagine the star's state
18:32
of mind. That
18:34
is, in fact, what Agatha Christie
18:36
did a couple of decades later. Imagine
18:39
it. In her novel The
18:41
Mirror Cracked from side to side,
18:44
a movie star takes revenge on the thoughtless
18:47
partygoer who exposed her to Rubella
18:49
by offering her a poisoned dacri.
18:53
In real life, though Jean didn't
18:55
seek revenge, she was
18:57
too stunned to seek anything. She
19:00
just stood there for a while as
19:02
the young Marine babbled on. Then
19:05
she silently turned and walked
19:07
away. Jean
19:11
looked after her daughter, Daria for
19:13
as long as she could, hoping
19:15
against hope that one day Daria
19:17
would hear and see clearly and
19:20
speak. When Daria
19:22
was four, the doctor sat Jean down
19:25
for a difficult conversation. He
19:28
told her that she simply couldn't
19:30
keep her child. It would
19:32
be unhealthy for Jean and hopeless
19:35
for Daria. He explained reluctantly,
19:38
Jean agreed to place Daria in an
19:40
institution where she could
19:42
get round the clock professional care.
19:46
Daria lived to sixty six, her
19:49
mind ever locked in
19:51
infancy. She has
19:53
never talked, but on my visit
19:55
she is always aware of my presence.
19:58
She sniffs at my neck and hugs
20:01
me. Jean's
20:03
marriage crumbled under the strain, but
20:06
her movie career continued
20:08
to thrive. As long
20:10
as I was playing someone else, I was fine.
20:13
When I had to be myself, my
20:16
problems began. I felt
20:18
my mind begin to unravel. I
20:20
felt scared for no reason.
20:24
She tried to talk to her mother, who
20:26
hoped it was all just a passing phase.
20:29
All you need is an attractive
20:32
bow and some pretty new French
20:34
dresses. Attractive
20:36
bows weren't hard to find in
20:39
the late forties and early fifties.
20:41
Jean dated the future President John
20:44
F. Kennedy and the globetrotting playboy
20:46
Prince Ali Khan. But
20:49
as her friends praised how well
20:51
she was coping, she was finding
20:53
it harder and harder to
20:56
hold herself together. I
20:58
felt like a person trying to get out of a
21:00
burning building. When my breakdown
21:03
came, I cried all the time.
21:06
I cried for Daria and for me,
21:09
and I cried for hours until
21:11
I often didn't know where the tears
21:13
came from.
21:17
The young marine who decided the quarantine
21:20
rules needn't apply to her, Brady
21:22
Sluda, who failed to realize that anyone
21:25
else might be hurt if he personally
21:27
caught coronavirus. It
21:29
would be easy to think about this as
21:32
a tale of selfishness, but
21:35
selfishness isn't quite the right
21:37
word. This is more a tale
21:39
of thoughtlessness. In
21:41
fact, we flawed humans are far
21:44
more altruistic than many people give
21:46
us credit for. We just need
21:48
a little help. Ten
21:51
years ago, the psychologist Adam Grant
21:53
and David Hoffmann, who studies organizational
21:56
culture, asked the question, how
21:59
could you minimize the number of times
22:01
nurses and doctors forget to wash their
22:03
hands? Yes, even before
22:05
the pandemic, we were being reminded
22:07
to wash our hands, or at least health
22:10
professionals were, lest they spread disease.
22:13
But those reminders didn't always work. Grant
22:16
and Hoffmann put up signs above dozens
22:18
of handgel dispensers in hospitals.
22:21
One sign read hand hygiene
22:24
prevents you from catching diseases. Another
22:27
said hand hygiene prevents
22:29
patients from catching diseases. Then
22:33
they came back a fortnight later to see
22:35
how much handgel had been used. The
22:38
first sign, reminding nurses and
22:40
doctors that they were at risk of disease,
22:43
had no effect whatsoever.
22:46
The second one did. When the
22:49
doctors and nurses were reminded of patience,
22:52
they used fifty percent more handgell.
22:56
It's not just handwashing. In
22:58
twenty fourteen, researchers in
23:00
Bosnia and Herzegovina wandered
23:03
about the effects of different kinds of
23:05
messages on blood donation drives.
23:08
They sent out seven different types of
23:10
letters to people who'd given blood in the past,
23:13
asking in different ways for them to give
23:15
blood again. One
23:17
letter contained factual information
23:19
about what kind of illnesses cause
23:21
others to need blood. Another
23:23
described a specific victim who needed
23:26
blood, with a name and a picture
23:28
and so on. The results
23:31
were even more impressive than in the
23:33
handgel study. The researchers
23:35
found something that made people sixty
23:38
three percent more likely to arrange
23:40
an appointment to give blood. But
23:43
this time there wasn't anything to do with
23:45
the different messages. They all
23:48
had a big impact compared with no
23:50
letter at all, just receiving
23:52
the message was what mattered. Everyone
23:56
knew that giving blood was altruistic.
23:58
It didn't require any clever persuasion
24:01
to get them to do it again. All
24:03
it took was a simple reminder.
24:07
The list of examples goes on. Ads
24:10
about drunk driving often make you
24:12
think about the risk to others, not yourself.
24:16
Some of the hardest hitting anti smoking
24:18
ads focus on secondhand smoke.
24:21
Still, another study finds that if you want
24:23
to persuade people to get vaccinations, a
24:25
good way to do that is to remind them
24:27
of the benefit to others. That
24:30
matters because vaccines don't always
24:32
work perfectly and not everyone
24:34
can have them. When
24:36
the UK started to use a new rubella
24:39
vaccine in nineteen seventy, the country
24:41
vaccinated only women of childbearing
24:44
age. That seems
24:46
to make sense, they're the population you should
24:48
worry about. After all. The rubella
24:50
vaccine is pretty effective. It
24:53
works ninety five percent of the time, but
24:56
that still left five percent
24:58
of women susceptible. In
25:00
nineteen eighty seven, the UK recorded
25:02
one hundred and sixty seven cases
25:04
of pregnant women with rubella. They
25:07
were catching it from children, their own or
25:09
their friends. So why
25:12
not vaccinate the children too. The
25:15
US had been doing that since the early nineteen
25:17
seventies, and in nineteen eighty eight
25:19
it's what the UK started to do too.
25:22
It made rubella vaccine universal
25:24
for children as part of the MMR
25:27
vaccine. Rubella is
25:29
what the R stands for, alongside
25:31
mumps and measles, and
25:34
fifteen years later, the
25:36
number of rubella infections in pregnancy
25:38
had dropped from one hundred and
25:40
sixty seven to just
25:43
one. Much
25:47
the same will be true of COVID vaccines.
25:50
If we vaccinate only the vulnerable,
25:52
it won't be enough. We need the
25:54
people who aren't at much risk, the
25:56
Brady Sluders of the world, to
25:59
remember that they're not just at risk of catching
26:01
a disease, but of passing it
26:03
on, causing consequences for
26:05
others that can be deadly or
26:08
last alike. As
26:15
I said at the beginning of this cautionary tale,
26:18
we don't know the exact connection between
26:20
Gene Tierney's mental breakdown and
26:23
her daughter's condition, but
26:25
we do know what Jean believed. She
26:27
was certain that Daria's disability
26:30
was the cause of her own mental illness,
26:33
and that disability was caused by the
26:35
marine's thoughtlessness, passing
26:37
on Rubella that night in the Hollywood Canteen.
26:41
Jean spent time in three mental health
26:43
clinics. She went through thirty
26:45
two rounds of electro convulsive
26:48
therapy. Between those
26:50
spells in institutions, she stayed
26:52
in her mother's fourteenth floor apartment
26:55
in New York. One day,
26:57
Jean's mother returned from shopping to be
26:59
accosted in the lobby by an anxious
27:02
dorman. There are policemen
27:04
in your apartment, he said, talking
27:06
to your daughter. Now, don't worry, she's okay.
27:09
But well, someone called the
27:11
police because they saw your daughter standing
27:13
on the window ledge looking like
27:15
she was about to Jean's
27:19
mother ran for the elevator.
27:22
Oh, Jean, don't get excited,
27:24
mother. I'm perfectly all right with you. I
27:28
was never going to do it, mother, I
27:31
was only looking down to see how far it was.
27:36
Jean did get better. Mostly.
27:39
She married an oil baron and lived
27:42
quietly in Texas. She
27:44
wrote her memoir Self Portrait.
27:48
Sometimes, she said she'd
27:50
wake up convinced that the Communists
27:52
had stolen her daughter. Once
27:55
her husband found her banging on their neighbor's door
27:57
in Houston in the middle of the night, sure
28:00
that they'd kidnapped Daria and demanding
28:02
that they give her back. But
28:04
these moments passed and
28:06
she learned to accept them.
28:09
To make any progress at all, you first
28:11
have to accept the fact that you have an
28:13
illness. If it takes saying
28:16
out loud, I am sick, I am
28:18
insane, I am a crazy person. One
28:20
must say it. I have
28:23
gone through such a time and more and
28:26
survived. A
28:32
couple of days after his Spring Break
28:34
interview, Brady Sluder posted
28:37
on Instagram. Our
28:39
generation may feel invincible, but
28:41
we have a responsibility. I
28:44
deeply apologize for my unawareness
28:46
of my actions. I want to
28:48
use this as motivation to become a better
28:50
person, a better son, a
28:52
better friend, and a better citizen.
28:56
Brady Sluder hadn't been heartless,
29:00
he had been thoughtless, and once
29:02
he had been prompted to think, he
29:04
wanted to do the right thing. I'm
29:07
sure that would have been true for them An if
29:09
she'd had the slightest idea of the harm
29:12
she could do. In fact, I
29:14
think it's true for most of us. Remember
29:17
those blood donors in Bosnia.
29:19
These were altruistic people. They'd
29:21
given blood before, but they
29:23
were also forgetful. Without
29:26
a reminder, they didn't think of going
29:28
back to give again. We
29:30
can often be self centered in
29:33
that we instinctively see things from
29:35
our own perspective, but
29:37
when we remember to think about others, we're
29:40
not selfish, quite the opposite,
29:43
and sometimes all it takes to remind us
29:46
is something as simple as a sign
29:48
above the hand gel Dispenser. Key
30:02
sources for this episode include
30:04
Gene Tierney's autobiography
30:06
Self Portrait and Adam gra
30:09
and David Hoffman's study in psychological
30:11
science It's Not All About
30:13
Me. For a full list of references,
30:16
see Tim Harford dot com.
30:21
Cautionary Tales is written by me
30:23
Tim Harford with Andrew Wright.
30:26
It's produced by Ryan Dilley and Marilyn
30:28
Rust. The sound design and original
30:31
music are the work of Pascal Wise.
30:34
Julia Barton edited the scripts.
30:37
Starring in this series of Cautionary
30:39
Tales are Helena Bonon, Carter,
30:41
and Jeffrey Wright, alongside
30:44
Nazar Alderazzi, Ed Gochen,
30:47
Melanie Gutteridge, Rachel Hanshaw,
30:50
Cobnor Holbrook, Smith, Greg
30:52
Lockett, Massa Munroe, and
30:54
Rufus Wright. The show also
30:57
wouldn't have been possible without the work of Mia
30:59
LaBelle, Jacob Weissberg, Heather
31:01
Fame, John Schnarz, Carlie
31:04
mcgliori, Eric Sandler, Emily
31:07
Rostock, Maggie Taylor, Danielle
31:09
Lacan and Maya Canning. Cautionary
31:12
Tales is a production of Pushkin
31:14
Industries. If you like the show,
31:17
please remember to share, rate, and
31:19
review.
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