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know from Rome. thank you for

2:27

being with us. I'm Nora Odonil.

2:29

Overlooking the Vatican's or just a

2:31

few hours ago we interviewed the

2:33

Holy Father Hope Hansel, that of

2:35

the Catholic Church, shares his insight

2:37

on the state of the world

2:39

and his first extensive one on

2:42

one interview with the Us Television

2:44

Network are calling herself to us

2:46

about war, famine on climate change,

2:48

all with the world Children. In

2:50

Mind or Sit Down com the

2:52

head of the Vatican First World

2:54

Children's Day with a message that

2:56

all kids are quote precious in

2:58

God's eyes. We've been in Rome

3:00

and Vatican City for a few

3:02

days now, speaking with people from

3:04

around the world who made the

3:06

sacred pilgrimage to reconnect with their

3:08

faith, pray at the Sistine Chapel

3:10

and have a chance to see

3:12

Pope Francis. a reminder that people

3:14

of all faiths turned to Pope

3:16

Francis for guidance on the world's

3:18

most difficult issues, making. Our conversation

3:21

with His Holiness. That. Much

3:23

more important, Oh

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my goodness, Answer to your holiness

3:28

on an honor so wonderful to

3:30

meet You love to meet you!

3:32

Yes! thank you so much for

3:35

doing us! We met Pope Francis

3:37

today at Casa Santa Marta. The.

3:39

Guest House where the Pontiff lives

3:41

instead of the lavish people palace

3:43

and eighty seven years old. He

3:45

may have trouble walking, but he

3:48

had no difficulty sitting down with

3:50

us for an hour long conversation.

3:53

How's your health he says

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soviet Marty Health is good.

3:58

In nearly every a. He

4:00

softened his sons of as leverage the.

4:03

Hope often calls for peace. He

4:05

condemned Hamas is October Seventh attack

4:07

but as also called on Israel

4:09

to use restraint. They are now

4:12

pictures. Of starving children coming

4:14

out of Gaza. What

4:17

about those said Call that

4:20

a genocide. Tennessee

4:24

set aside for some of both of

4:26

us. Thought of this as a system.

4:28

Every afternoon at seven Pm I call

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girls are to the parish. Ah

4:33

yes, there were about six hundred people

4:36

there and they tell me what's going

4:38

on. Look, associate. And

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whistles, it's very hard. Very

4:43

very hard. To food goes

4:45

in the lessons they will cut it says

4:47

they have to fight for it wasn't It's

4:49

very hard. I know you

4:52

call for peace. You have called for

4:54

a ceasefire in many of your salmons.

4:57

Can you help negotiate peace?

5:00

I can pray I do agree

5:02

a lot. During

5:05

World Children's Day which is the end.

5:07

Of may be un says

5:09

over a million people will

5:11

be facing salmon in Gaza.

5:13

Many. Of them children. What

5:17

can be done? And

5:20

sort of that, bisimwa. So not

5:22

only Gaza we should think about,

5:24

you crave. Kiss. On

5:26

Ninos know southern softly so kids

5:28

don't know how to smile. I

5:30

tell them something but they forgot

5:33

how to smile This and this

5:35

is very hard when a child

5:37

forgets to smoke. That's really very

5:39

serious very soon as if we

5:41

having. Do you have a

5:43

message for Latin they're putting when it comes

5:45

to. Ukraine. Put.

5:49

Forward please. In

5:53

the face, single countries at war. All

5:55

of them. the

5:57

thing that Stop

6:01

the war. Look to negotiate.

6:03

Look for peace. A

6:05

negotiated peace is better than a war

6:08

without end. His

6:14

most holy father is considered one of

6:17

the most influential people in the world,

6:20

leading nearly 1.4 billion

6:22

Catholics. He is the first

6:24

pope from the Americas, the first

6:26

Jesuit, and the host of Vatican's

6:28

first World Children's Day next month.

6:31

I love that you take the kids in the Pope

6:33

Mobile with you and bring them up to

6:36

the Apostolic Paulist when you say

6:38

a prayer. Why

6:40

do you do that? Children

6:46

always bear a message. They

6:48

bear a message, and it is a way for us to

6:50

have a younger heart. Francis

6:54

is also the first pontiff

6:56

to make climate change a

6:58

priority. In 2015, to make

7:00

an important point, images of

7:02

the environment were projected onto

7:04

St. Peter's Basilica, the dome

7:07

designed in the mid-16th century

7:09

by Michelangelo. What

7:11

do you say to the deniers of climate

7:13

change? There

7:17

are people who are foolish, and foolish

7:20

even if you show them research. They don't believe it. Why?

7:25

Because they don't understand the situation

7:27

or because of their interest. But

7:29

climate change exists. His

7:36

progressive style has made him

7:38

popular worldwide, with millions coming here

7:41

to St. Peter's Square to catch a glimpse of

7:43

the Holy Father. feel

8:00

the spirit. Sophia

8:03

and Aaron came with their family from

8:05

San Diego, California. How

8:07

did it make you feel when he came out of a window?

8:10

It made me feel good,

8:13

like, better by the next

8:15

minute. Still the

8:17

number of Catholics in America is dwindling.

8:19

In the U.S., only 20% of

8:21

adults identify as Catholic, and that's down from 24%

8:24

in 2007. I

8:27

wonder if you could speak to those who

8:29

don't go to Mass anymore, or

8:32

maybe don't see a place for themselves

8:35

in the Catholic Church. I

8:43

would say there is always a place, always.

8:49

If in this parish the priest doesn't seem

8:52

welcoming, I understand, but go and

8:54

look. There

9:00

is always a place. Do

9:03

not run away from the Church. The Church is

9:05

very big. It's more than

9:07

a temple. It's more. You

9:09

shouldn't run away from it. We

9:13

also asked the Pope about the

9:15

migrant crisis, gay rights, women's

9:18

role in the Church, and whether

9:20

he's thinking about retirement. We'll

9:23

have that and much more on

9:25

60 Minutes on Sunday, May 19th,

9:28

and then a prime time special

9:30

on Monday, May 20th, right here

9:32

on CBS. For

9:35

our interview with Pope Francis, we also wanted to take

9:37

a pulse of the Catholic Church back home in the

9:39

U.S. So we asked Catholics

9:41

in cities across the country about their

9:43

relationship with the Church, how they feel

9:46

about this Pope, and what message they

9:48

want to hear from him. to

10:00

support the care for the environment. We support

10:02

him. He is

10:04

our guide. Like

10:07

the church he leads, Americans' opinions of

10:09

Pope Francis are diverse. He's got some

10:11

things that I agree with, some things

10:14

maybe I don't agree with. We always

10:16

need Pope's. The challenge are what you're

10:18

thinking, and I think he's doing that.

10:20

While a majority of American Catholics view

10:22

Francis favorably, many we spoke with

10:24

thought the church needed to evolve.

10:28

83% of US Catholics want the church to

10:30

allow the use of contraception, and more than

10:32

half think the church should recognize gay

10:34

marriage. I think they do need to

10:36

bring women into the church. They need

10:38

to ordain women as priests, and they

10:40

need to allow priests to marry. Everything

10:42

changes, and sometimes I think

10:44

the church needs to change too. A recent

10:47

survey found more Americans were leaving

10:49

the Catholic church at higher rates

10:51

than any other religion. I feel

10:53

like I could just be spiritual anywhere.

10:55

You know, I don't really necessarily have

10:57

to go to church. I

11:02

think there's been a lot of bad news about

11:04

the Catholic religion, about the priests

11:06

in general, and I think people have

11:08

turned around and walked away from that.

11:10

We have a lot of young people

11:12

that grew up in the Catholic church,

11:15

but they don't feel that they're

11:17

getting the message. They feel they're

11:19

not accepted. They feel they might

11:21

be ostracized. They feel

11:23

that they don't

11:25

belong to the church. We spoke with Patrick

11:28

Egan, who left the Catholic church as

11:30

a teenager, only to come back in

11:32

search of a community. He's now a leader

11:34

at a local parish. Does the

11:36

Catholic church feel different under Pope Francis? Yes,

11:39

Francis is really trying to open the door

11:42

to participation by people

11:44

who have been traditionally outside

11:46

of the hierarchy. He blames

11:48

strict adherence to ideology for the

11:50

decline, but says that can change. What do

11:52

you think it would take for the Catholic

11:55

church to be able to

11:57

reconnect with Americans? They need to meet Americans

11:59

where they are. The Are we are very

12:01

secular society and so the church can

12:03

figure out a way to help people

12:06

understand how a spiritual journey and a

12:08

feast community on can really make one

12:10

slice more rich and meaningful. That I

12:12

think is also part of the story.

12:17

And. Rookie, but he joins us now and

12:19

that is. So many of the people

12:21

we spoke with here thought that Pope

12:23

Francis has been much more inclusive inclusive.

12:25

What did you learn? The

12:29

ceiling is very much the same here in

12:31

the Us. Pope Francis has made a concerted

12:33

effort to soften the message of the Catholic

12:35

church if an approach that has eight or

12:37

some of the more conservative followers. But as

12:39

far as a whole, plan to make all

12:41

feel welcome. Nora. Who.

12:45

We. Also, ask them about those conservative

12:47

Bishop. he'll hear about that later.

12:49

And nikki the teeth. Thank you.

12:51

Now to tonight's other top story.

12:54

Clashes between police and pro Palestinian

12:56

demonstrators are intensifying. Protests at Columbia

12:58

University in New York are now

13:00

in their eighth day and a

13:02

the Speaker of the House was

13:04

on campus calling on the schools

13:06

president to restore order. City is

13:08

Nancy. Chan has more on the

13:10

growing nationwide tensions. This

13:14

was the scene at the University Southern

13:16

Tell soon after school security. Tried to

13:18

such students from sitting at the

13:21

protests encampment. Hundreds of demonstrators. Surrounded

13:23

as a tool. To

13:26

see who's student, whose leader release.

13:30

As University of Texas Austin police

13:33

in riot gear matthews on who's

13:35

That consulted about two hundred students

13:37

participating in a pro Palestinian really

13:39

on the East coast. injured were

13:41

set up an encampment. On her

13:44

resort in solidarity with student protesters

13:46

at Columbia. university where healthy for

13:48

my johnson smoothly to do and

13:50

was met with his shoes in

13:52

zoos i'm here today join him

13:55

my colleagues going on president should

13:57

be to resign if she could

13:59

not immediately bring order to this

14:01

chaos. This

14:03

is day 8 of the protests

14:06

at Columbia University. The school said

14:08

it is making important progress with

14:10

protesters. It has given students a

14:12

deadline to dismantle their tents. The protesters

14:14

say they will not leave until

14:16

the school agrees to cut its business ties to

14:18

Israel. We need the administrators of

14:20

these universities to get control of the situation.

14:22

And if they can't, then we

14:24

need the National Guard, law enforcement, or someone to come

14:26

in here and take control. Are you

14:29

calling for the National Guard to come here? Desperate times

14:31

call for desperate measures. For

14:34

now, New York Governor Kathy Hochul says she has

14:36

no plans to send in the Guard.

14:38

Columbia announced today that because of the

14:40

unrest, there will be a remote option

14:42

for upcoming final exams. Graduation is

14:44

set to take place on campus in

14:47

three weeks, Nora. Nancy

14:50

Chen, thank you so much. We

14:52

turn out of the Supreme Court

14:54

in a case that could have

14:57

wide-ranging implications for women's health care

14:59

nationwide. At issue is the conflict

15:01

between Idaho's near total abortion ban

15:04

and a federal law that requires

15:06

hospitals to provide emergency medical treatment.

15:08

CBS's Jan Crawford was there for

15:10

the oral arguments. The

15:13

justices were sharply divided over Biden

15:16

administration arguments that federal law, which

15:18

requires hospitals to provide necessary stabilizing

15:20

treatment, including abortions, overrides Idaho's

15:23

near total ban, which permits

15:25

abortion to save a mother's

15:27

life but not when her

15:29

health is at risk. Idaho

15:31

law says the doctor has to

15:33

determine not that there's

15:36

merely a serious medical condition, but

15:38

that the person will die. The

15:41

court's liberal justices provided real-life examples of women

15:43

who have been denied abortions in states with

15:45

restrictive laws. Her life is

15:47

non-impereled, but she's going to lose her reproductive

15:50

organs. She's going to lose the ability to

15:52

have children in the future, unless

15:54

an abortion takes place. But

15:57

some conservative justices noted that in Idaho, Doctors say that the court is not going

15:59

to be able to get a better education. Can perform some abortions.

16:01

If they believe the woman is in danger.

16:03

Of dying, Rao Labrador is Idaho's Attorney

16:05

General. They continue to say it's that

16:08

this was putting women's lives in jeopardy

16:10

and it is not. Ideal

16:12

assists. I'll say the biden ministration is trying

16:14

to find a backdoor way to broaden. Of

16:17

worse and access. They. Will be

16:19

more abortions happening in in hospitals

16:21

because they will create an exception

16:23

that will allow any type of

16:26

abortion to happen in the fate

16:28

of Ayatollah Cc. Sigh of a

16:30

high risk pregnancy Doctor in Idaho

16:32

says physicians are now afraid to

16:34

perform. Abortions even if the state law

16:37

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16:39

could be prosecuted. We. Need to

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16:45

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16:52

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16:54

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16:56

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16:58

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Arizona senator where their support for the

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repeal and then to the Governor who

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is expected to sign at that would

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policy. Finally

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tonight, a word about our first of its

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kind interview with the Holy Father. Historic. And

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this is something I've dreamt about my

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whole career at CBS News. It took

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an entire team of dedicated journalists to

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make this happen. Today,

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the Pope told us that he hopes

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his legacy is to welcome everyone. And

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as one longtime follower told us, Pope

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Francis may not change the lyrics of

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the Catholic Church, but he is trying

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to change the tune. You can

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see much more of our interview in May

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on 60 Minutes and in a primetime special.

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And that's tonight's CBS Evening News.

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I'm Nora O'Donnell in Rome. Good night.

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