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Back now seven thirty Cbs mornings. I'm

2:30

on the scene of yesterday's horrific bridge

2:33

collapse here in Maryland where I recovery

2:35

operation is underway. crew searching for the

2:37

six missing construction workers They are now

2:39

presumed dead after late yesterday evening spell

2:42

Gov West more than a join us

2:44

out of office, more towards was more

2:46

about the daunting task ahead and where.

2:49

Your. State is this morning you've been on

2:51

a brown working since The small hours of

2:53

yesterday morning were to things stand with the

2:55

recovery effort right now. While the the commitment

2:57

that we made to the families was no

2:59

i I instructed for every asset the we

3:01

have to be able to focus on that

3:03

search and recovery. The Cb to find survivors

3:05

mom new as we move now to a

3:07

recovery efforts are the same. To limit the

3:09

damage to the families is we're going to

3:12

use every asset to bring them a sense

3:14

of closure or you. Were. Talking

3:16

about six. Presumed. Dead

3:18

fun. At different points. Over the last

3:20

twenty four hours, the number was as

3:22

high as twenty missing. Are you confident

3:24

that six is the highest possible number?

3:27

Of. Missing Ah we're we're we're We're confident

3:29

that Are Six is the is gonna is

3:31

A number of of of individuals were looking

3:34

for and and or economic on the floor

3:36

and you've met with the families of those

3:38

six. What are they going through this morning

3:40

What he telling them my martin focus of

3:43

them at bay receive the worst news that

3:45

together possibly receives and know and when they

3:47

left their family members saw when their family

3:49

members left to go to work. They.

3:52

Never imagined that the result would be that. would

3:54

be a bridge collapse and now their family members missing

3:56

and the thing they wanted to stress to me when

3:58

i was many with them Was these were

4:01

fathers and these were sons and

4:03

these were husbands and these are people who their families relied

4:05

on and so we Let them know that the state would

4:08

be there for them and and we will

4:10

I'm sure they appreciated that There are other

4:12

families that got much better news two people

4:14

rescued from the water one of them injured

4:16

What do you know about the story of

4:18

that rescue? How were first responders able to

4:20

get to them? Oh the the

4:23

heroism of our of our first responders was

4:25

just outstanding and astounding You know when that

4:27

first made a call came in that the

4:29

power had gone out and that they had

4:31

lost the ability to steer the vessel Immediately

4:34

our first responders sprung into action and

4:36

we had law enforcement that were directing

4:38

people off of the off of the bridge We

4:41

had law enforcement that were telling people to

4:43

stop driving on the bridge and halting traffic

4:46

That saved countless lives and so the

4:48

heroism that we saw from our first

4:50

responders both leading up to the incident

4:53

and then immediately after When

4:55

we have divers in the water right now So

4:58

it's remarkable what they're doing. What are those divers dealing

5:00

with for people who don't know these waterways? I

5:02

mean, we're talking about frigid temperatures. We're

5:05

talking about we're talking about a moving tide

5:08

we're talking about darkness and mangled

5:11

metal that's still very much

5:13

in the middle of this water So

5:15

they're dealing with very treacherous situations right

5:17

now as they're as they're fulfilling this

5:19

recovery mission Let's turn to the economic

5:21

impact of all of this the port

5:23

of Baltimore by some estimates Employees

5:26

10,000 people maybe even more. I know the

5:28

state's gonna be there to support the families

5:30

of those lost Are

5:32

we talking about 10,000 unemployed people this morning in

5:34

Maryland? No, we also have to make sure we're

5:36

taking care of our workers These

5:38

are people who they they were not at all

5:41

responsible for this So our workers have got to

5:43

be protected and all this and it is true

5:45

We're talking about 10,000 people who are directly employed

5:47

over a hundred and forty thousand people who are

5:49

indirectly Imported by the port this

5:51

port and the economic impact of the port

5:53

is not just huge on the state of

5:55

Maryland This is you know, this is this

5:57

is a responsible for over 51 million tons

6:00

of foreign cargo, the largest in the

6:02

country. This is the port of Baltimore,

6:05

imports and is responsible for more cars,

6:07

more light trucks, more agricultural equipment than

6:09

any other port inside this country. So

6:11

this is not just going to have

6:14

a massive economic impact on the state

6:16

of Maryland. This is going to hurt

6:18

the farmer in Kentucky. It's

6:20

going to hurt the auto dealer in Michigan. This

6:23

is going to impact the entire country's economy. And

6:25

so it's imperative that we not just build, be

6:27

smart and that we're coordinated and that we're compassionate,

6:29

but also we've got to get this done to

6:31

completion and we've got to get it done together.

6:34

Governor, you're a young man, you're a young governor.

6:36

When you imagine the things you're going to face

6:38

in the role that you are in right now,

6:40

I am certain that this is not one of

6:42

the things that comes to mind. It is a

6:45

freak accident, a shocking event. How

6:47

are you doing this morning and what is your

6:49

message to the people of Maryland who

6:51

just lost a landmark that stood for

6:53

more than 40 years? And that

6:55

bridge has been here longer than I've been alive. That's

6:58

all we know. That's our

7:01

skyline and it's now gone.

7:03

The thing that I would tell the people of

7:05

our state is first I'd ask people to continue

7:07

praying for these families. No matter what kind

7:09

of day we've had, they've had a worse one. So

7:12

we got to pray for these families. The

7:14

second thing I would tell Maryland is this, we

7:16

are Maryland tough and we're Baltimore

7:18

strong and we're going to be stronger because

7:20

of this, but we're going to do it together.

7:23

And you will be rebuilding Governor Westmore. Thank you very much. Thank you so

7:25

much. Best of luck to you and your team today in this effort. I

7:28

bless you. Appreciate it. The sun comes up here.

7:30

The focus today is the search for those

7:32

six people still unaccounted for. They are presumed dead

7:34

at this hour, but divers want to

7:36

recover their remains to bring the family some closure.

7:39

We're told conditions are difficult, dangerous

7:41

for the divers for a number of reasons.

7:43

We're going to get into that because only

7:45

on CBS mornings, we are joined now by

7:47

the FBI agent who is

7:49

leading the underwater search at a

7:51

supervisory special agent, Brian Hudson, who

7:53

joins me now. Special agent

7:56

Hudson, thank you very much for being here. My pleasure. We

7:58

had the governor on earlier. personally thanks you

8:00

and your team for the work you're doing.

8:02

We mentioned the conditions. It's been raining here.

8:04

It's been windy. How are things going?

8:08

They're going. It's a very

8:10

dangerous situation underwater, with the

8:12

rubble still settling. It's not a

8:14

great spot for divers. It's incredibly

8:16

black water. The sediment gets kicked

8:19

up. And

8:21

there's also a significant current moving underwater as

8:23

the tides change. So the goal is recovery.

8:26

The hope is there will be remains for

8:29

these families. There will be closure of some

8:31

kind. That's a very important mission. How big

8:33

is the search area? Currently

8:35

right now we've searched along. We're doing the search

8:37

along the entire length of the bridge that's gone

8:39

out. And then we've expanded a couple

8:42

hundred feet off of that. And I know

8:44

when you go under the water, visibility is

8:46

difficult. But you have some tricks in helping

8:48

you see. You've got sonar, different types. How

8:50

is that helping you and what are you

8:52

seeing? So what we've brought to assist Maryland

8:54

State Police on this job is we have

8:56

an ROV that we've put in the water.

8:59

With that, the driver is going to sit in

9:01

the boat, drive the ROV. He's

9:04

going to have a camera and a sonar system on

9:06

that. The second sonar that we

9:08

brought is a side scan sonar, which is a

9:10

toad behind a boat. It looks a lot like

9:12

a torpedo. And that's going to give you

9:14

a swath onto the right and to the

9:17

left so we can drive it along the debris field

9:19

to get an idea on both sides of what

9:21

we can see. And then to zero in

9:23

on if we see any interesting targets or anything

9:25

that might be of note, we

9:28

can drop a sector scan, which

9:30

is a tripod sonar system with

9:32

the sonar head in the middle of

9:34

the tripod. And that's going to give you a 360 look

9:38

on the screen. I want to talk about then

9:40

what you're looking at down there because this was

9:42

a construction crew. They're on an overnight shift when

9:44

traffic is reduced. They were in the middle of

9:46

the bridge. And people who are familiar with the

9:48

patterns of their work are saying that they might

9:50

have been on a break at that point sitting

9:52

in their vehicles. Are you seeing vehicles with the

9:54

sonar under the water? That is what we're currently

9:57

looking for is vehicles and human remains

9:59

if they were out. of the vehicles, but

10:01

primarily we're looking for vehicles. And

10:04

do you have an estimate at this point of

10:06

how long this could take? We've

10:08

been told that probably up to a week. A

10:11

week? Yeah. The sonar,

10:14

the diving, what

10:16

other tricks do you have up your sleeve at this point?

10:18

Now 36 going on 48 hours

10:20

in, mind these people. Like

10:22

I said, it's pretty much the sonars. Like

10:25

I said, we don't want to splash divers until we're absolutely

10:27

sure of the targets. Since

10:30

we do have identified some targets in the water, at

10:32

that point, like I said, we'll hopefully see it with

10:34

the camera with an ROV before we send the divers.

10:36

Like I said, with the shifting wreckage, it's

10:38

just not a great spot for divers to be in the water.

10:41

It's going to be black water. So once they do go on

10:43

a target, it's pretty much going to be by fill. And

10:46

with all the debris down there, there's going to be rebar, a lot

10:49

of cutting obstructions, a lot of entanglement hazards.

10:52

Like I said, so our goal would be if

10:54

we find the target with the sonars, visually

10:57

identify it hopefully with the camera, if we can

10:59

get visibility down there with ROV. And

11:01

then at that point, then we would send the

11:03

divers down. I echo the governor and thank you

11:05

for your work. I know there are six families

11:07

waiting for any kind of news and

11:10

a wider community here that's rooting for you

11:12

as well. So thank you, Special Agent Hudson.

11:14

Appreciate it. Our pleasure. And folks, I'm going to

11:16

send it back to you in New York because we know

11:19

this is not only a story here on the scene, but

11:21

a wider economic story that's gnarling in many different directions. And

11:23

you're going to take that up. So Vlad, back to you.

11:26

Yeah, Tony, thank you very much. While we

11:28

do not yet have a timeline for when

11:30

the port of Baltimore will be operational again,

11:32

that's bound to affect supply chains earlier. We

11:35

spoke about that with U.S. Transportation Secretary

11:37

Pete Buttigieg. After

11:40

seeing the preliminary reports, do you see

11:42

this as a tragic, unavoidable accident, or

11:44

is there a particular failing that needs

11:46

to be addressed? For example, what's your

11:49

understanding that contaminated fuel may have played

11:51

a role in the ship's loss of

11:53

control? Well,

11:56

by design, the NTSB works independently

11:59

in the... their investigation. They're

12:01

going to assess what happened top

12:03

to bottom. They are pros. And

12:05

I know that they're already doing

12:07

good work. I saw the chair

12:10

of the NTSB, Jennifer Homendy, at the

12:12

scene yesterday. What I

12:14

do know is that there are six families

12:16

right now that are hurting, that are grieving.

12:19

When we were there yesterday, there was some

12:21

hope, hoping against hope, that it

12:23

would still be possible to rescue

12:25

some of them. Now, these families are

12:27

fearing the worst. And we're

12:29

preparing for the road ahead. So let's

12:31

talk about the economic impact. What should

12:33

Americans understand about what's to come? What

12:38

we need to know about the Port

12:40

of Baltimore is that it is the

12:42

largest vehicle handling port in the country.

12:44

And we're not just talking about cars,

12:47

also heavy farm equipment that is

12:49

an important part of America's economy

12:51

to get those out around

12:53

the world. Also, agricultural products, bulk products,

12:55

all go through this port. Now, of

12:58

course, it's not the only port on

13:00

the East Coast, but it does have

13:02

some unique capabilities. Right now, you've got

13:04

ocean shippers, the other ports and

13:07

the cargo owners all working to figure out

13:09

where to divert the ships that were

13:11

headed that way. This is going to

13:14

be different than what America experienced in

13:16

2021 with those backups on the West

13:18

Coast ports. But similarly, it is going

13:20

to lead to a lot of complications

13:22

for our supply chain. And

13:24

Biden said that the federal government will pay

13:26

for the entire cost of this bridge. Do

13:29

you have an idea of just how much

13:31

this will cost and even a timeline, because

13:33

this bridge was built in the late 70s

13:35

and it took several years to even get it up? That's

13:40

right. It took about five years

13:42

to build this bridge. But the president

13:45

has been clear that this entire administration

13:47

will move heaven and earth. And obviously

13:49

that means we'll move concrete and

13:51

steel to get this thing up

13:54

as quickly as humanly possible. He also

13:56

wants to make sure that funding is

13:58

no obstacle to getting that done. I

14:00

pledged the same in person to Governor

14:02

Moore yesterday as I met with

14:04

him and his leadership team. Mr.

14:07

Secretary, we are also mourning the loss of life. Thank you

14:09

very much for spending some time with us this morning. We

14:11

appreciate it. Thank

14:15

you. Overnight a panel of federal appeals

14:17

court judges decided to continue a block

14:19

on the controversial SB4 border law in

14:22

Texas. But as that fight plays out

14:24

in the courts, there has been a

14:26

dramatic shift in where migrants try to

14:28

cross the southern border. Texas has actually

14:30

seen a big drop in attempted crossings.

14:33

Instead, one of the busiest sections

14:35

for illegal arrivals now is a

14:37

remote area of Southwest Arizona. CBS

14:40

News traveled there to see what's happening

14:42

as migrants from around the globe cross

14:44

through this treacherous terrain. Immigration

14:46

reporter Camilo Montoya-Galvez has the

14:48

story. People

14:51

can die crossing the terrain. Oh, very

14:53

easily. Out here there is nothing. From

14:56

the sky, this rugged stretch of the

14:58

U.S.-Mexico border in Arizona may look beautiful.

15:01

But as Tucson's Aaron Marine Operations Director

15:04

Jesse Scruggs told us, it's a dangerous

15:06

place for migrants. You've had

15:08

to rescue migrants. Oh, absolutely.

15:10

And children, too. Oh, children,

15:13

women, older folks. In

15:15

its latest public count, Border Patrol documented

15:17

a record 895 migrant deaths in one

15:21

year, including 142 in this sector alone. This

15:26

makeshift encampment behind me can be

15:28

a lifeline for migrants crossing this

15:30

treacherous terrain here along the Arizona

15:32

border. You can see migrants behind

15:34

me getting food, water, and basic

15:36

necessities here before being transferred over

15:38

to Border Patrol agents. In

15:41

just five months, the Tucson sector recorded over

15:43

300,000 migrant apprehensions,

15:45

more than any other section of the

15:47

border. Here is the border fence

15:49

here. This is the Sotheby

15:52

Port of Entry. Border Patrol

15:54

agents like Benjamin Salcido largely act

15:56

as first responders. We're not in

15:58

the business of losing. lives, any

16:00

life that we could spare, whether it

16:03

be a fellow agent or a migrant

16:05

in distress, to save a life

16:07

that's part of the job. And

16:10

that job starts here, inside this command

16:12

center in Tucson, where

16:15

agents take in 911 calls

16:17

from desperate migrants. Migrants

16:19

are coming to the southern border in record numbers

16:21

and from over 160 countries. While

16:26

some try to evade federal agents, many

16:28

migrants actively look for them to begin

16:30

the asylum process. Where are you from?

16:32

The Ondes Ondes? Peru? Ecuador.

16:35

Yeah, Ondes Ondes Ondes Ondes? Where are you going now? To

16:39

immigration border patrol. Right

16:41

behind this group were two men from Nepal. How

16:44

long was the journey from Nepal? Too

16:47

long. Too long? Why

16:49

did you come? Political problems? In Nepal? Yes.

16:54

What is driving this unprecedented flow

16:56

of people to the U.S.? Everything

16:58

that comes across our border, illicitly,

17:01

is under the control and dictation

17:03

of the cartels and the smugglers.

17:05

In an exclusive interview, Border Patrol Chief

17:07

Jason Owens said his agency is on

17:09

track to record two million migrant apprehensions

17:12

for the third consecutive fiscal year. We

17:14

have seen a sharp increase in migrant

17:16

crossings in Arizona and California, and

17:19

the numbers in Texas have remained low compared to

17:21

last year. Governor Abbott has

17:23

credited his policies, the razor wire, the

17:25

arrests, the busting of migrants to cities

17:28

for that geographic shift, if you will.

17:30

Is that accurate? Hard to say. Could

17:33

it have had some impact? Sure. Is

17:35

it the one panacea

17:37

that's caused this corrective problem?

17:40

I don't think that's a fair statement.

17:42

But like so many, the migrants we

17:44

spoke to were undeterred by the policies

17:47

or the perils. What do you hope to do here in the U.S.?

17:50

Work. You

17:52

want to work. The

17:57

White House and Congress remain desperately

17:59

gridlocked on immigration. immigration, as they

18:01

have been for decades. But communities

18:03

in Arizona and other border states

18:05

are bracing for another influx in

18:07

crossings and potentially another humanitarian crisis.

18:10

The main shelter system in the Tucson

18:12

sector told us that they could start

18:14

rejecting migrants from their shelters if

18:17

the number of people crossing the

18:19

border increases. That could force border

18:21

patrol to start releasing migrants, including

18:23

families, with children onto the streets

18:25

of Tucson. That would be unprecedented.

18:27

Yeah, you do such a good

18:29

job of showcasing the complexity with this

18:31

issue, because there's so much fear that's stoked

18:33

into when we talk about this particular subject.

18:36

But in terms of the number of people that die, the

18:39

people that are there trying to help, even

18:41

though there are other things

18:43

to consider, too, but really, really nice job.

18:45

And you say, Camilo, the White House and

18:48

Congress remain gridlocked on immigration. But you could

18:50

have said that under the Clinton administration, Bush,

18:52

Obama, Trump, and now Biden. That's the

18:55

case. The last immigration law passed by Congress

18:57

was in 1990. Great reporting, Camilo.

19:01

Before I was born. Before I was born. All

19:03

right, Camilo, thank you very much. More

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20:38

back to CBS mornings. It is time

20:40

to bring you a very special edition

20:43

of Talk of the Table. Wow. Featuring

20:45

our friends, Pete Barrymore. Hello. Hosting

20:47

the Barrymore show and our Drew's new co-host,

20:49

Ross Matthews. It's my favorite talk. Hi, guys.

20:51

We're going to bring you guys every month.

20:53

We're joining forces to bring you some of

20:55

the stories that we're all talking about this

20:57

morning. Ross, you are in whole

21:00

position. Okay, so I'm up first. Question

21:02

for everybody. Do you ever feel

21:04

guilty for staying home inside on a

21:06

beautiful day? Yes. Well,

21:08

you do, right? I don't. Well, apparently you're

21:10

not alone if you do. So my talk

21:13

of the table is about the new term

21:15

sunshine guilt, which describes the feeling of shame

21:17

you might get for staying indoors, in bed

21:19

or on the couch when it's a beautiful

21:21

day outside. So take a look

21:23

at this TikTok video explaining this new phenomenon. I

21:27

am experiencing sunshine guilt right now. It

21:29

is an abnormally beautiful day

21:31

outside, but I'm tired. So

21:34

now I feel this pressure to go outside

21:36

and go for a walk and enjoy the

21:38

weather while it lasts. I

21:41

can't enjoy myself indoors now because

21:43

the whole time I'm thinking that

21:45

I should be outside. So

21:47

basically my day is ruined. Yes.

21:50

Yes. Yeah, right. And

21:52

this weekend, it was an okay sunny day here on

21:54

the East Coast. And I, All I wanted

21:56

to do, and we did, we watched the tell all of

21:58

90 day fiance, the. But now I'm

22:00

being and I said well you can we gotta go

22:02

outside we were as the my husband we went to home

22:04

guys we made a whole event out actually. Put

22:07

the progressing as the get yourself

22:09

or from other people made notoriety.

22:11

For myself you know because we have had some

22:13

weather out here you know until finally it was

22:15

nice and need to have to get our own

22:18

and I like it. is a pressure from other

22:20

people who will say it's such a beautiful day.

22:22

I have you been outside yeah the all your

22:24

plans in order to be outside. That being said

22:27

I do enjoy nap inside with the sun's I

22:29

do soon as they have been funny I I

22:31

I might enjoy is Ruby lot I love that

22:33

you just said I don't have guilt about I

22:36

don't. And I'm supplies are. Now.

22:38

One of I have seen and married. My

22:40

wife Will says we have to take around.

22:42

That's cool. I'm down for that. But before

22:44

that is it sunny. I'm like was it

22:46

all those losers out on my couch like

22:48

what I'm just gonna see? Been doing what

22:51

I'm busy. Law as my therapist says

22:53

her mission which is my way. Word

22:55

was younger self for Mrs. Give yourself

22:57

permission. I had Sunshine Guild so I'm

23:00

glad this is a term. Now I

23:02

feel like less alone and Sam it's

23:04

nice to put it's from to the

23:07

ceiling so next time just. Do you

23:09

give yourself mission wherever you feel like the we

23:11

do that? Well recognized the table as

23:13

about an actress that I am

23:15

so impressed with both on and

23:17

off screen. I sat down with

23:19

the wonderful Sydney Sweeney the star

23:21

as anyone but you arm and

23:23

you might know her from new

23:25

for yeah, but she is a

23:28

producer now and she produced any

23:30

one but you and I got

23:32

to ask her about her latest

23:34

movie that she produced. It's called

23:36

Immaculate and the amazing work that

23:38

she is doing is what we

23:40

like to discuss as to. See

23:42

now Producers and I just cannot wait

23:44

for people to see a matter what

23:46

is getting. Rave reviews. Love Letters by

23:49

The New York Times? There's a piece

23:51

of our interview. You're

23:54

producing right now is.

23:57

It. Just beyond, it's becoming a

23:59

gold standard. A

24:08

farm somewhere. And is it true

24:10

that one of the reasons you

24:13

named a thought was because that

24:15

you believe it takes. Multiple

24:17

people that there's a shared credit.

24:20

You don't do anything alone. Tell

24:23

me about the name because I

24:25

really appreciated the intention behind as

24:27

I truly believe in collaboration. I

24:29

think more mine are butter in

24:32

a room than just one. And

24:34

I believe everybody deserves a seat at

24:36

the table and so I hope by

24:39

with my company allows other people to

24:41

have a voice and be able to

24:43

to be a part. Of the bigger

24:45

picture. Will

24:47

make no mistake, her new

24:49

film is incredibly scary, but

24:51

it is one of those

24:54

rosemary baby ask elevated experiences.

24:56

It's getting rave reviews and

24:58

deservedly so and everybody is

25:00

loving any one. By Yale I

25:02

said law suits your. That's. Funny.

25:05

I mean I'm doing a great sign

25:07

up watching you. And particular sit down

25:09

with her. Gonna be here today because

25:12

I you know you to disengage roads

25:14

a major trailblazer as they say. yeah,

25:16

hard that shady deal and any with

25:18

them. So beautiful to see, sort of

25:20

acknowledge which he didn't feel. Well, I

25:23

think she's a stupendous human being

25:25

to She's such a girl's girl

25:27

and a great great a spirited

25:29

human. but her creative prowess is

25:31

one to really really sets the

25:34

bar and watch out for says

25:36

Sydney Sweeney. The young

25:38

people watching. That's what I'm saying hundred me feel

25:40

to you to know that there are people that

25:43

are blown up right now that are standing on

25:45

your shoulders. I I want to.

25:48

Say. that when we list

25:50

each other up we rise

25:52

with that and we should

25:54

always be showing people how

25:56

much we admire them and

25:58

pointing out the quality of

26:01

their work because it really just

26:03

elevates everyone in the room. And

26:05

I've always been that kind of

26:07

person. And that's what I loved

26:09

about her company, 50-50. She's

26:11

like, everyone has a voice here. And when

26:14

you really understand the nature of your work

26:16

and what everybody does in their job and

26:18

the value of it, there is

26:20

no I in team, period. There never was,

26:22

there never will be. That's great intention too

26:24

at that young age. Full

26:26

interview airs today on the Drew Barrymore

26:28

Show. So tune in for that. All

26:31

right, my talk at the table is about

26:33

Lenny Kravitz, who I am obsessed with. And

26:36

my man can't even stop for gas and

26:38

a snack without looking super fly. Check this

26:40

out. Looking like this. Oh, I've got it.

26:42

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

26:46

Oh. Oh. Oh.

26:48

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

26:52

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

26:55

Oh. Oh. So that's Lenny

26:57

Kravitz strutting through a Bucky's store in

26:59

Daytona Beach a few days ago. The

27:01

rocker was stopping the Greek fans, take

27:03

photos while grabbing a couple of snaps.

27:05

What'd you say, Dereca? He looked like

27:07

a snap. Yeah. He looked

27:09

like a snap. Nice dance right there. That's right.

27:11

I know, but the- Never once in my

27:14

life would I have looked like that in that outfit.

27:16

Every time I feel like I look cool, I catch

27:18

my reflection, I'm like, I look like Mrs. Roper. You

27:20

know, like- What's going on? I'm like,

27:22

what's going on? Wearing a moo moo? Wearing a captain?

27:25

Exactly, yes. Physical silhouette. And the

27:27

fact that, I mean, how long?

27:29

Remember when his album Flowers for

27:32

Zoe came out? Yes. It

27:34

seems like yesterday, but that was 30 something

27:36

years ago and he does not age. He

27:39

looks exactly the same. And you know, better. It

27:41

was in that video to me, the spring in

27:44

his step. I mean, he's like, and he's like

27:46

60 or something. What would you do? Would you do like

27:48

a double? Would you be like, or would you- In Bucky's? Yes,

27:50

in Bucky's. He's trying to go, oh, a little snack

27:52

here, a little snack here. You never know. It's so

27:54

funny, because when I do see certain celebrities out, it's

27:57

like, hi, I'm, yeah, I work at CBS. I see celebrities

27:59

all the time. I just wanted to say hi,

28:01

so, you know. And they're like. I really love your

28:03

work. Security. I like his little

28:05

man bag also. I know. Yeah, that

28:07

was his little teeny tiny pants. No,

28:09

the teeny head. Teeny head for a little

28:11

doll. I know exactly. What happened to what's going

28:13

on? Wait, the real question really, how would you

28:16

react? I'd be like, I'm the biggest man. I'm

28:18

the biggest fan. I'd be like, oh my gosh, Wendy. Have

28:20

you met him yet? No. Oh, it's

28:22

going down. Glad I'd be just like you.

28:24

Or I would do what I also do

28:26

when I see somebody I admire. I totally

28:28

clam up. What happened when you saw Taylor

28:30

Swift? No, really?

28:32

Yes. Are you kidding? I

28:35

am not cool. I am not Hollywood Bob. I'm

28:37

not like, hey, we're in the same business. We

28:39

can say hi. I am

28:41

literally gobsmacked and I

28:44

go, I furl inward. I

28:46

love that you're a fan just like us. Drew Barrymore. Ross

28:49

Matthews, we love having you guys. The

28:52

Drew Barrymore show airs weekdays on

28:54

stations around the country. Check your

28:56

local listing. We love you guys.

28:58

Thank you for having us. Bye. Bye.

29:01

Good bye. I'm going to

29:03

hit my head, darlin'. Every

29:06

single cowboy is home.

29:09

That is singer-songwriter, Cierra Harrell, with

29:12

Dollar Bill Barr off her new

29:14

album, Trail of Flowers. Rolling Stone

29:16

is called the 35-year-old, one

29:19

of country and roots music's most

29:21

fascinating and fastest rising artist. She's

29:23

touring alongside Avitt Brothers and Zach

29:25

Bryant this summer, but Farrell's road

29:28

to this moment was unconventional. Zanthi-Mason

29:30

can only show us the only

29:33

thing more amazing than her voice is

29:35

her story. How

29:37

would you describe your sound? I

29:39

always joke and say it's the life-changing

29:42

time. Oh. Cierra

29:44

Farrell's life started changing about

29:47

six years ago, when

29:49

she played here at American Legion post

29:51

82, and

29:54

a buzz started to build around

29:56

Nashville. Bye. It

30:01

led to a

30:04

recording deal and

30:07

her debut album. It's

30:21

kind of funny how the attention comes because

30:23

it's like nothing, nothing, nothing all

30:25

at once. So I think, thank

30:27

you, Lord. When

30:31

did you start singing? Since I could talk. Yeah.

30:34

I was a pretty annoying child. The

30:42

daughter of a single mom, Farrell grew

30:45

up poor in West Virginia. In

30:47

her early 20s, as the opioid

30:49

epidemic was spreading there, she

30:52

fled. Why did you leave? I

30:55

left because I feel like I've always

30:58

had a wild side

31:00

to me. And

31:02

I knew that if I stayed there, I probably

31:06

wouldn't still be alive. And

31:09

so I left in search for maybe

31:12

myself, maybe to find out what

31:14

else there is, maybe even

31:17

a reason to live. Farrell

31:19

and a friend started hitchhiking. The very first

31:21

person that picked us up, he pulled out this knife that

31:23

was in the sheath and he handed it to me and

31:25

he's like, take this with you. You're going to need it.

31:28

Did you need the knife? I did. Because

31:31

for one, if you have bad intentions, I'm not scared

31:33

to use it. But also you need it for

31:35

snacks. When

31:39

she wasn't hitching rides, another

31:43

one, we got two, she was hopping

31:45

train. And they changed the

31:48

crew out. Right. And that's where you

31:50

jump on. That's where you want to be because you don't really want to jump on a moving

31:52

train. So

31:55

you rode for days, for weeks? For weeks sometimes.

31:57

It felt like I was an outlaw. I

32:00

felt more free. I want to see

32:02

you all in your arms. For

32:06

years, she traveled north

32:08

to Chicago, west to

32:10

Seattle, south to New Orleans.

32:13

I need you to start. Busking

32:16

on the street to get by and

32:19

relying on the kindness of

32:21

strangers. What's also crazy about that

32:23

scenario is it's usually the people who have

32:25

less that give you something. Yeah. Because

32:28

they know what it's like. Yeah. You

32:30

know, a lot of the people who are travelers... They're

32:33

usually running from

32:35

something. Yeah. Or... For

32:38

you? I mean, maybe. What do you think you might have been

32:40

running from? Maybe addiction.

32:44

Maybe past experiences.

32:49

But they caught up with her. You

32:51

almost died. I died. I did

32:53

die. It was during a

32:55

trip home to West Virginia, Farrell says.

32:58

And I had a relapse with a friend who's also

33:00

gone now. But she

33:02

accidentally overdosed. I

33:05

just collapsed on the floor and I looked

33:07

up and Chris was smacking me in the

33:09

face and he's like, Sierra, wake up. And

33:12

it was like time didn't

33:14

exist anymore. And then before I

33:16

knew it, I was in the corner of the room and I

33:19

was looking down at myself. And

33:22

so there's this pen of light

33:24

above me and it's starting to get bigger

33:26

and bigger. And then

33:29

all of a sudden, all my

33:31

feelings of fear... Pull away. They were

33:33

gone. And the only thing

33:35

I knew that existed was pure bliss.

33:39

And I saw

33:41

these figures in a circle and they knew who I was.

33:43

And they're just like, come be with us. Come to us.

33:46

It's time. Come home. Ultimately, what did

33:48

you make of all that? I

33:50

feel like I'm not very scared of

33:52

dying. I'm not very scared of what's after

33:54

this. Farrell

33:57

finally tired of traveling. settled

34:00

in Nashville and started therapy.

34:02

Taking accountability is huge. Miraculously,

34:05

things in your life just

34:07

start to happen better. I take better

34:10

care of myself. Stop

34:12

drinking from the bottom shelf with my...

34:14

On her new album, Trail of

34:16

Flowers, you hear the wisdom

34:19

of a woman who's lived by

34:21

her wit. I'm gonna make

34:24

a dream. Oh, oh, I'm

34:26

gonna make a dream. Oh,

34:30

oh, I'm gonna make a dream. I

34:33

needed to get that wellness out. It

34:35

kind of really, like, grounded

34:37

me. It's funny, isn't

34:39

it? Yeah, it's funny how that works. And

34:42

I feel like it helps characterize even my

34:44

voice, perhaps. Yeah. Give it that

34:46

maybe... That specialness, that

34:48

sort of longing or... Maybe

34:51

even the sadness that is in

34:53

some of my music. Guys

34:55

like you, I'm a

34:57

diamond-diving. You should

35:00

count your lucky stars.

35:03

Down in Israel, I've had

35:05

a enormous, heavy

35:08

single-sailor. My

35:12

honey, I could break a hundred down

35:15

in the other building. But

35:18

there's also a joy in your music. Yes.

35:21

Well, you know, you've got to go through this sadness

35:24

to appreciate the joy and to

35:26

know what the joy can give you. Yeah.

35:30

And a great sense of humor, too. Thanks,

35:32

it's the trauma. That's

35:38

what art's all about, folks. This is a

35:40

really special album by an artist who is

35:42

coming into her own at the age of

35:44

35. I mean, it's been

35:46

interesting to watch the comments on social media when we

35:48

posted a clip last night. So many

35:51

people who have seen her live say it's like

35:53

the best concert they've ever seen. She's that kind

35:55

of a live performer. Just watching her sing by

35:57

the American Legion Post, I was getting chills. Yeah.

36:00

there's something special in her voice even the first

36:02

time i heard it i was

36:04

wondering what is it that's what it is

36:06

well it's so interesting to hear her say that

36:08

uh... you gotta get to the status to appreciate

36:10

the joy look at me cuz i've always said

36:12

that you know the worry i have is that

36:14

you understand that addiction for some people in everyday

36:17

struggle yes for those away and you don't want

36:19

to see somebody with so much talent so much

36:21

talent end up like jimmy or janice or kurt

36:23

or any uh... where is she in that journey

36:25

every she seems to be in a really good

36:27

place looking at you can never you can never

36:29

be sure cuz you're not actually living with the

36:32

person but she seems to be in a really

36:34

good place she's managing this really well and

36:36

and their career is just taking off

36:38

all the artists i know what a

36:40

performer that stolen and clearly very resilient

36:42

and you got something for tomorrow's i

36:44

do have a bad that i'm talking

36:46

with chris and rich robinson will be

36:48

an on a southern rock band the

36:50

black crows their new album happiness bastards

36:52

the band's first new music in fifteen

36:54

years we've

36:57

knew that we wanted to make

36:59

like a rock-and-roll record a saturday

37:01

night record up-tempo big riffs we're

37:04

very visceral it has to feel a certain way

37:06

for us you said that you kind of hear

37:08

his voice sometimes when you're right always yet since

37:11

day one you have screaming

37:13

and it there left

37:18

yeah how the band of others finally got back

37:20

together after a very bitter breakup they literally did

37:22

not speak to each other for you yet i

37:24

saw this on your instagram and i'm like oh

37:26

my gosh and that he's talking to the black

37:28

crows we look

37:30

forward to that anthony thank you now

37:33

for the megabond number that is four in tonight's

37:35

winning numbers are eleven twenty two seven twenty nine

37:37

thirty eight and gold megabond was four well

37:41

did you get lucky because that

37:44

is last night's mega million draw

37:46

just one winning ticket was sold

37:48

for the one point one billion

37:50

dollar prize they went to someone

37:52

in jersey who was chosen to

37:54

stay anonymous most of these

37:57

gigantic jackpot for games like million and

37:59

powerball have really just happened in the past

38:01

two years after lottery organizers

38:03

made the games much harder to

38:05

win. Americans are now spending

38:07

record amounts of all types on

38:09

lottery games. So how did the

38:12

lottery come to play such a big role in our

38:14

lives? Brooks of Abraga looked into

38:16

that. Every

38:21

day in more than 40 states, millions

38:24

of Americans wait for their numbers to

38:26

come up. One minute. One minute mic

38:29

check. Just last year, more than $100

38:31

billion was

38:33

spent on the lottery. First

38:35

ball up. That's more than

38:38

concerts, movies, books, and streaming

38:40

services combined. Give me two

38:42

sets for life. And that

38:44

money pours into places like

38:46

Honey Bee Convenience, a so-called

38:48

lucky store in Staten Island, New

38:50

York. And you play to make money. You play

38:52

because it's fun. I play big bills.

38:55

Four lottery players have become

38:57

millionaires here. Many

39:00

others have tried. Do you have a daily budget? Yeah,

39:02

I have a daily budget. No more than 50 a

39:04

day. No more than 50 a day. How's

39:07

business for the lottery? As good as it's

39:09

ever been. Jonathan Cohen's history

39:11

of the American lottery for a

39:13

dollar and a dream is a

39:15

story of misplaced hope. Another one.

39:17

Another one. Starting with the politicians

39:20

who legalized the lottery.

39:22

In the 1960s, cash-poor states noticed

39:25

the mob was making a killing

39:27

on illegal gambling and saw an

39:29

opportunity. New Jersey Congressman Cornelius Gallagher

39:32

argued if this revenue could be channeled

39:34

to the state through a daily lottery,

39:37

we could abandon all taxation in New

39:39

Jersey and increase every service in our

39:41

state four times over. That was the

39:43

argument used to make the lottery happen.

39:45

That's right. While that windfall

39:48

never arrived, help with the budget

39:50

remains the lottery's key selling point. The

39:52

California lottery has raised more than $37 billion

39:56

for California's public school. That's

39:58

true over nearly. decades.

40:00

But the fine print reveals in any

40:03

one year the lottery covers less than

40:05

one and a half percent of the

40:07

state school budget. And after

40:09

studying years of research on the

40:12

subject Cohen argues the lottery is

40:14

largely funded by a small group

40:16

of heavy players. And

40:18

that group is disproportionately less

40:21

educated, lower-income, non-white and

40:23

male. Some of these guys come in here

40:25

and they play like four or five

40:27

hundred dollars. They got like a grocery list.

40:29

But state budgets now count on

40:31

this money. And in lottery commission

40:34

meetings across the country we found

40:36

states not just allowing their citizens

40:38

to gamble but constantly searching for

40:40

ways to increase their play. We're

40:42

seeing a trend that is concerning

40:45

flats of declining revenues there. I

40:47

know that we're working on this.

40:50

Scratch off sales were down 12 million dollars if

40:52

that continues to be alarming. That's one of the

40:54

things that we're really looking at. We have

40:56

seen some weakness in scrap sales. We've

40:58

made some adjustments to our game plan

41:01

and we'll see if we see an

41:03

impact from those changes. You'd expect that

41:05

at like a board meeting of MGM

41:07

Las Vegas casino. You don't expect that

41:09

of like government officials seeing that it's

41:12

a problem that people in their state

41:14

are not gambling enough. Brian O'Dwyer is

41:16

the chairman of the New York gaming

41:18

commission which runs the nation's largest lottery.

41:21

Should the government not only be allowing but in

41:23

the case of New York State spending 90 million

41:25

dollars a year advertising encouraging their

41:27

citizens to gamble. Is that the role

41:29

of the government? It is the

41:31

role of the government. It could be somebody

41:34

else. It has been somebody else. It's been the

41:36

mafia. Why are we spending money? Because

41:38

it's good for New Yorkers. Two

41:40

reasons. Good for New Yorkers for education.

41:43

Good for New Yorkers which cause we've

41:45

taken away the profit motive of illegal

41:47

gambling. People look at who's gambling

41:49

and disproportionately these lotteries are funded by people

41:51

on the lower end of the income spectrum.

41:54

Does that concern you at all? I don't

41:56

think it really shows that particularly the lottery

41:58

does not really show that people

42:00

in the lower income are

42:03

really abusing the lottery. So

42:06

some researchers say that is the case. If

42:08

you became convinced that was the case, would

42:10

you feel differently? What I would be more

42:13

inclined to do is

42:15

to address the problem of problem gambling.

42:17

I think that's the answer that we

42:19

have to be cognizant of, and we

42:21

are. New York, like

42:23

many states, directs a small share

42:25

of lottery money to problem gambling

42:27

prevention. But Cohen says

42:29

the lottery's continuing success, each

42:32

year selling more than the last, It's alright,

42:34

I can try next time. tells us something

42:36

deeper about these games' appeal. You know, there's

42:38

this old phrase that a lottery is a

42:40

stupid tax or a tax on people who

42:42

are bad at math, and I think that's

42:44

totally unfair. I think a lot of lottery

42:46

players sort of reason that they

42:48

don't have a chance, maybe not even at

42:51

wealth, at sort of financial stability. And the

42:53

lottery, even if it's 1 in 292.2 million,

42:57

offers some chance. Mathematically, irrational,

42:59

but sort of culturally, socially, politically, economically, makes total

43:01

sense. Can't win if you don't play. That's right.

43:03

And somebody's got to win, it might as well

43:05

be you. We

43:08

reached out to the state commissions you saw in the

43:10

piece. The Oregon Lottery told us, Our

43:12

mission is to maximize revenue commensurate

43:14

with the public good. New Jersey

43:17

and Texas declined to comment. This

43:19

is such a mixed bag, because you do get

43:21

the point that if you're Brookfield, Braga,

43:23

I have more questions. Thank you. And

43:26

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