When does a fun hobby turn into a challenging endeavor? Can you master a skill and still enjoy it? This is the tension at play in this episode of the Change My View Podcast, featuring today's OP "thorface". Here's some relevant links and info: Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/9wq6fe/cmv_a_hobby_cant_be_fun_if_you_get_serious_enough/Original art in thorface's instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vahagn9038/The "Quotes" sub thorface mentioned: https://www.reddit.com/r/quotes/top/The Flow-State TED Talk with the guy who has the long last name: https://www.ted.com/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_on_flow?language=enKnight-themed hoodie that showed up mid-podcast via Google Adwords crazy genius AI and/or coincidence: https://www.rosegal.com/mens-hoodies-sweatshirts/autumn-and-winter-models-solid-color-men-s-retro-elbows-drawstring-mask-knight-sweater-men-6508452.htmlThe Ad in question as it appeared during the podcast recording: https://i.imgur.com/NK7F6KS.png