Why is legalizing *all* drugs a good idea? Laura Kemp asks this question to respected drugs journalist Thijs Roes; a future thinker, system shaker and science lover.

Thijs spent years doing drugs research and it led him into a world of drug policy based on scientifically wrong assumptions."If we don't change the system of drug policy, the war on drugs will be perpetual" he says. "It will cause only more criminalization and on top of that, health risks." In this episde Thijs also colourfully explains how an LSD Trip helped him to quit smoking, and how he believes there should a a legal path to any drug - not because he wants to downplay the risks, but because it will be a safer and fairer society.