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Don't
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believe me? Just watch. All
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right. It's Monday, September
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18th. Will Meniker here, joined
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by Matt and Felix. We've we're
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back. Chopper's back for you guys. Got a full slate
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of things to discuss today.
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But I suppose I will begin today
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by saying I have I have but one
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thing. Actually no, I have three things to say. And
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they are as follows.
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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. It's
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showtime.
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The musical looks like we're not invisible
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anymore. Our
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girl Lauren Bobert Lauren
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Bobert back again, you know, like exercising
1:11
in the flower of her youth. We all remember
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Lauren Bobert. Her tainted sliders
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from her shooters barn grill made
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dozens explode with bloody
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diarrhea. Well, folks, it seems looks
1:23
like Lauren is seeking to elicit a different bodily
1:25
reaction this time from her date during
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Beetlejuice the musical. I
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don't know where to begin with this. So I'll just say you
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can vape in Beetlejuice the musical.
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I'm sorry. This is not the London Philharmonic.
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This is not the Met Opera. You should be
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allowed to vape indoors during the performance
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of Beetlejuice the musical. And
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you should also be able to give your date a dry hand. We
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have gotten so many. We've heard
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like a million bullshit excuses
1:52
for why we can't vape in a theater. And sometimes
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it's like,
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oh, this theater is 300 years old,
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like Hamilton performed.
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taxes. It's
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an idiot lasagna. I mean, look,
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as the article goes on here, the co-owner
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of Hoochcraft Cocktail Bar, but
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it says, according to New York Post, Gallagher
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is a registered Democrat and Hoochcraft
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Cocktail Bar is a gay-friendly bar
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that hosted a winter wonderland
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burlesque and drag show back in January
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per an invitation advertising the event on social
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media. Now, people will certainly
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comment on the juxtaposition
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of ardent culture warrior and anti-gay,
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anti-drag, anti-trans demagogue
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Lauren Boebert dating a
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registered Democrat who runs a bar that
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hosts drag-themed events
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at it. But I think they're overlooking a much
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more important piece of commonality
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between these two individuals is that they're both
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bar and grill owners. And I
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think in Colorado, that supersedes,
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you know, these petty culture war disputes.
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Yeah, yeah, part of the same class, which
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what is that? Oh, it matters more. What a shock. I
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can't believe it. If I was Lauren Boebert,
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and the doofus
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that she's with, I would
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start hiring protection because Colorado,
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like you are right, Colorado is, it's
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like a sanctuary for
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modern day hoople heads, you might say.
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Yeah, it's a stupid state. It's a
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really stupid state. But Colorado's
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governor is he post on
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r slash neoliberal. He's
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like a von Meisser Institute
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Democrat. Jared
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Paulus. Yeah, he's
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really trying to make Colorado the
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like Matt Iglesias, Yimbee
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state. He's trying to give it like a good
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image. And if like
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people realize and remember, Lauren
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Boebert, she's given crooked
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hand Beezies up and down the Colorado
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River. They're gonna be like, wait
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a minute. I don't care if this state like, voted
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for you by like 20 points. I don't This
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is essentially like a bluer state
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than New York in the last election
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cycle. This
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is a state for idiots. I'm
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not going to build a super condo development here.
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I'm not saying yes to anything in our backyard.
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I mean, yeah, like, Polis is
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the end-stage liberal
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who's fully only a Democrat
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for cultural issues. Like, that's
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it. Otherwise, like, complete
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libertarian economic
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identity.
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And
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the premise of that is conservative social
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views are stupid. They're dumb. They're
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for hillbillies. They're for knuckle-draggers. And if the rest of
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the citizens of Colorado can't rise above
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that standard, he's going to be gone. He's going to
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leave you people. Yeah. Well, I
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hated, of course, Lauren Boebert had to
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sort of humble herself and go on to O&N and
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say, I was a little too eccentric.
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I'm on the edge on a lot of things. Folks, the only one
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on edge was her date. After not being
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completed. I love
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that her defense of this is like that she's a manic-fishing
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grimo. Yeah. Like, her
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kids are in college. Yeah,
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she's a grandmother. Her kid has a kid.
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And the fact that she lied about the vaping
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before they found it. Oh, yeah, there's a fucking... Of course,
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there's a fucking... Do you not think there are cameras everywhere
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in public you fucking moron? You're going to be able to say,
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oh, no, I wasn't vaping. There's a fucking
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camera everywhere, idiot. And then she has to go
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like... It's sort of the Reagan
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thing with Iran-Contro. I still
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believe I didn't vape, but the evidence tells
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me that's not true. Like Hassan Minhaj,
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he was communicating emotional truths. Oh,
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my God, that motherfucker. Jesus
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Christ. He didn't say. I'm sorry.
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Oh, I can show it because it's in service of a punchline.
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Oh, really? You have those? I'd love
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to hear one. People
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like you killed comedy by saying, it
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can't be funny. Funny isn't enough. It has
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to be politically meaningful. Well, that means you've
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lost that standard. You can't say, oh, it's
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at least funny because it's not fucking funny. Yeah,
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there were people who were competing.
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Hiring it to like Richard Pryor
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or like Dave Chappelle joke where the
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baby is selling a weed out of a limo.
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And it's like, those are jokes.
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Those are things that people applaud at the end of.
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Yeah, this is stuff to make him look oppressed.
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Yeah, and also like what are the
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things that he lied about was that
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it's rooted in a girl
8:22
rejecting in high school. Yeah,
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insane. That's fucking insane.
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He said that he invented this whole thing. Okay,
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in reality, his son Minaj asked out
8:33
this girl he was friends with. He asked
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for her to go to homecoming with him or some shit.
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And she said, no, you know, I like you as a friend,
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blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And
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like 25 years later,
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he crashed this whole story where her family
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could spy. It's like Romeo and Juliet
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with a racial quid where they're like, we
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actually were not letting our daughter
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date a Muslim. And
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it was this whole dramatic thing.
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And it just did not happen.
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None of it happened. And the first few times
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he did it, he like put her name,
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like he used her real name and picture. He's
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insane. He's insane. It
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seems turns once again, politics is just
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sex. That's all it is. Your sides are
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picked by the way your dick is bent. And then
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everything follows that for perfect. It's a perversion
9:22
public. I don't, I don't like presumably
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he's had sex like since
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high school at least once. Yeah,
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I just like, well, he had
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to have sex to produce the daughter that had anthrax
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splashed on her. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, we'll get to that. But it's
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like, how do you hold
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on to like one rejection from
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high school? You're like, that's the
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population of this fucking country you're talking
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to. Like how many people politics
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is entirely based on some sexual,
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probably trauma in high school that they've never
9:57
gotten to have. And you know what? Oh
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boy, is he breathing easy after the Russell Brand
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news this weekend? He's gonna
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take it a big load off. It was like oh, whoo,
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dodge that in New Yorker profile No one
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gives a shit about that anymore. Yeah, Russell
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Brand really he dove in front of him Yeah,
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the Russell Brand thing's been funny because it's a
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bunch of people who are like, come on Could
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you um before this article could you
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imagine this guy raping anyone? This
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is clearly a hit this Well,
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that's that's the that's the thing is that the
12:31
this idea that he is being targeted because
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he's too dangerous to the regime That
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just it's like I kind
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of get where the basis of that comes from because
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you know, these kind of stories are Organized,
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you know, like right at a newspaper
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or a magazine's like this guy I'm gonna look into
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them and you're thinking you're or
12:51
you can argue if you're a certain frame of mind Oh, yeah,
12:54
they got a deep state call. You
12:56
got to take out brand He's saying
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too much confusing gibberish to people. It's
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gonna make them do something This
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far of getting to the Greek has too much of a
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purchase on the youth of the West But
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there's another thing there's another possibility that
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just by being who he is He's very annoying
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and people decide, you know what? Maybe this
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hey, maybe all the stories I heard about this incredibly
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annoying person that like have permeated
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England for like 20 years Maybe I
13:21
could check into some of those and oh, wow Look at that
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the incredibly annoying person has some skeletons
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in their closet Yeah, they went after
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him but not because he's gonna bring down their team because
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fucking irritating, right? It's like kind
13:33
of half-true in this way, right? where it's
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like these stories were out there
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before but like No one
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there was no impetus to do this
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because like, you know, you could
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say oh he was like useful to Paramount
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or universal or whatever like he was in right?
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Yeah, and now that he's not in anymore
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now that he Does
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the lowest form of entertainment which is making
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YouTube videos arguing about medicine?
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Just I don't know how anyone watches that.
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Look, if the vaccines like
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make your dick fall off, I still wouldn't
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watch that stuff. It's so boring.
14:10
I don't want to see anyone go like,
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oh, but there's a Quando
14:15
Rondo Five in it. I don't give
14:17
a shit. Shut the fuck up. But,
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you know, yeah, it's easier to do this story
14:24
when he's not in movies anymore. That
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aspect's certainly true. But
14:30
it's just like, okay, do you think that
14:32
they were lying when they planted the seeds
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of this story 20 years ago? When
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like Danny Minogue was like, this
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guy's a fucking creep in 2006. Like,
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no, this has been like an open secret for
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an incredibly long time. But it still
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takes like a particular impetus
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to bring it into focus.
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And that's the thing, that process
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that is an inevitable part of
14:56
any journalistic conveyor
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belt, that is completely compromised.
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Like there is no collective faith in
15:04
that process anymore. There
15:06
is no collective assimilation
15:08
of any story anymore because your
15:11
preexisting relationship to the subject
15:13
of the story determines your analysis
15:17
of the process that you found out about it. Right.
15:21
And as such, like all the people are like, oh, thank
15:23
God, I'm not gonna have to see him anymore. Unfortunately,
15:26
you're mistaken because if he
15:29
was still in movies, yes, that might be the case.
15:31
But if your audience is
15:33
there to watch you argue about medicine,
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it does not matter what they say you did in
15:38
an article. You're still gonna see him.
15:40
He's still gonna be making those videos about
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that damn medicine. And you know, you
15:46
can walk around in your head thinking that Russell
15:48
Brand is now talking about medicine and not starring
15:50
in movies because he cares so much
15:52
about the medicine. He cares just so darn much
15:55
about America and the UK
15:57
and the future. And that if he was
15:59
still able to.
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adults.
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Drag themed bars are events for
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adults. You're already musical for children
18:06
just going to town
18:09
on a guy's dick. A guy
18:11
who asked Greg shows at his bar. Oh
18:13
my god. Well, maybe she's trying to win him back
18:16
for the heteros. She's
18:18
on a secret mission. But I mean, we're really
18:20
seeing here what happens when like
18:23
the true believing small
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bourgeois maniacs make it into power.
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Because remember that the
18:31
anti squad, the ladies who entered Congress,
18:33
the QAnon contingent was Marjorie
18:36
Taylor Greene and Boebert. And
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Marjorie Taylor Greene came in as like the more fire
18:41
breathing one of them. Yeah. Who also
18:43
is in a deep red district in Northern Georgia
18:45
that she has no chance of ever being removed from. And
18:48
she came and immediately cut to leadership and
18:50
became a little, little soldier of Kevin McCarthy.
18:53
Boebert goes in there, fuck you. She's one
18:55
of those people who like made them vote 50 times
18:58
to let the idiot become a speaker of the
19:00
house. She's still like at maximal
19:02
conflict with leadership. But here she is
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jacking off a guy doing drag
19:06
team story time already, after
19:09
what, barely getting reelected, her
19:11
first term. She's already just having
19:14
a good time with a fellow member of her class,
19:16
no longer fired with the desire
19:19
to, you know, change anything. And she's going,
19:21
she could just see her on her path to
19:23
total assimilation into it because yeah,
19:26
she divorced her loser husband and now she's
19:28
out on the town and there's going to be so many pleasures
19:31
dangled before her. Do you really think she's going
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to still want to put her finger on the button? No, she's
19:35
going to want to jack a guy off at fucking, uh,
19:38
at Aladdin. Yeah.
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You mentioned her loser husband though. She
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did say that, um, she said she called
19:45
criticism of her behavior at the show, difficult
19:48
and humbling and said, well, none of my actions
19:50
or words as a private citizen that night were intended
19:52
to be malicious or meant to cause harm. The
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reality is they did. And I regret that. She
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also cited her public and difficult divorce
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and said her being. simply fell short of her
20:01
values. You will remember, of course, the
20:04
man that she's getting divorced from was the guy who
20:06
exposed himself to lab teenagers at a bowling
20:08
alley. And then she defended him for that,
20:10
too. Beautiful. Welcome
20:13
to the club, Lauren. But Matt, you made a point
20:15
recently about how, like, Boebert
20:18
and Margaret Hiller-Green coming in in the anti-squad
20:20
class. Margaret Hiller-Green becoming
20:22
a lickspittle of, you know, the McCarthy
20:25
and, you know, the establishment Republican Party. And
20:28
then Boebert doing the opposite, but barely,
20:30
barely winning reelection. And here's the thing. Margaret
20:33
Hiller-Green is something in fonking, like CrossFit
20:35
instructors and, you know, yogits.
20:37
You see, she's stepping down all the time. Thank
20:40
you, motherfucker. She is hot to trot. She's
20:42
a goer. But the thing is, she's getting
20:44
away with it because she's ugly. And Lauren
20:47
Boebert is, by the standards of politics,
20:49
pretty damn, she's a firecracker. By
20:52
the standards of Congress. Yeah, you
20:54
got it. Remember, we're dealing at a wildly
20:57
perverted curve here. Yes. Diane
20:59
Feinstein is, like, right in the middle of the bell curve
21:02
here. Yeah. Thank you both for
21:04
the hotter members of Congress. Mitch
21:06
McConnell is like BMOC, big
21:08
man on campus. Felix,
21:12
I was thinking about you because, you know,
21:15
I myself am taking part in it right now.
21:17
One of my favorite, anytime sort of like a
21:20
Palin figure and her hijinks makes
21:22
the national news. We get a very good
21:25
display of horny libs. Yeah.
21:27
So just being like, I'll give
21:30
her some of my Beetlejuice if you know what I'm talking
21:32
about. Yeah, I'd like to
21:34
give her a hanging Chad. The
21:38
Horned Up Libs, the Horned Up Libs, myself
21:40
included, are loving this one. I
21:43
love those guys. I was so
21:45
happy to see that Brian rediscovered that
21:47
image. Did you see
21:51
Sarah Palin block me for this recently?
21:53
Really? What is Sarah up to these
21:55
days? Well, I'll tell you. She just got
21:58
divorced. She just got divorced. She's doing her semester. abroad.
22:00
Yeah, she made a video where
22:03
it's like her and one of her imbecile
22:05
daughters, they're going to an exhibit
22:07
that's like Van Gogh for children basically.
22:11
It's like a huge like
22:13
playroom style thing where you can walk around
22:16
a room that's like the dream.
22:18
And she used
22:22
like Windows Movie Maker or something and composed
22:24
such a weird style that I said
22:27
it was like, you know, it's the feeling of
22:29
taking too much Nyquil. It's like dreaming.
22:32
It's like you take that fifth Benadryl
22:34
right before you start seeing spiders. And
22:37
she is doing semester
22:39
abroad with her daughter, which like, I
22:41
have to say, as I predicted, if
22:44
you have a kid young enough like Sarah
22:46
Palin did, you know, she had a kid when she was like 20,
22:49
eventually, that kid's going to get older
22:51
than you. Sarah Palin is like 49 now her
22:53
daughter's 52. It's just
22:57
gonna happen. It just they're going to surpass
23:00
you. They're going to get older than you. You're young enough. Yeah,
23:03
I will say though, I got a few other stories here. Lauren
23:06
Boebert is is really not the only one.
23:08
There's been a lot of news out of Congress this
23:10
week, of our elected representatives
23:13
or aspiring elected representatives, either
23:16
sludding it up or slobbing it up. And
23:18
I suppose we can start with John Federman
23:20
changing the Senate dress code so he can dress
23:23
like the guy from Smash Mouth
23:25
did RIP. Yeah, do
23:27
we have do we have audio of Ron condemning
23:29
this, by the way? Oh, yeah.
23:33
No, but I need that. I know that it dear
23:35
me to the hooting masses who love Donald
23:37
Trump more than life. It's turning
23:40
into the evil principle from
23:43
a rock and roll high school sequel. Yeah,
23:45
Governor DeSantis, 75%
23:48
of the voters you have to win wear t shirts that
23:50
are so big that they're basically calf tans.
23:53
How do you respond? You guys
23:54
want to hear some of that audio?
23:57
Yeah, it's really good. I appreciate it.
23:59
promise you
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all
24:08
my gosh three-hearted
24:11
you guys here the u.s. senate just
24:14
eliminated its dress code because
24:17
you got this guy from pennsylvania well
24:20
i mean i have a problem but i mean let's
24:22
just be honest like how he got elected well
24:24
i mean he got elected because they didn't
24:26
want the alternative but um... he
24:28
wears like sweatshirt and hoodies
24:31
and shorts and that's his bank
24:33
so he would campaign in that which is your
24:35
product of right i mean about that you want to do to
24:38
show up in the united states senate with
24:40
that and not have the decency to
24:42
put on proper attire i think it's disrespectful
24:45
to the body and i think the fact that the
24:47
senate change the rules to accommodate
24:51
uh... you know i think looks speaks very
24:53
poorly uh... to how they consider
24:55
that what we need this country we need to be
24:57
lifting up our standard in this country not
25:00
counting down our standards in this country this
25:02
is an example of why uh... perfect
25:05
now that they've been a bit of a people
25:08
are going to rally to the banner for the
25:10
story yes yeah no no i think there's
25:12
one thing the american voters really care about in twenty
25:14
twenty three it's a showing the proper respect
25:16
for the united states senate but this is a show
25:19
like fetterman i'm sorry like
25:21
if you are a electoral reformist
25:24
who is seeking like some uh... some
25:26
sort of dialectical synthesis who can like
25:28
actually carry forward what you imagine
25:31
to be a progressive version of the democratic
25:33
party and you know good luck if that's what
25:35
you believe betterment is like your
25:38
fucking quits a kadarak here because he is
25:40
the only one who just by being who he
25:42
is actually breaks through the cultural
25:45
polarities
25:46
that like keep you
25:47
uh... in like a shrinking percentage of like
25:49
working-class voters like just by
25:51
being a flop like if you look at his margins
25:54
in pennsylvania and they were nailing him for that during
25:56
the the the primary two
25:58
and they were nailing them for literally have a stroke and
26:01
he wanted so many like Trump County.
26:04
And then he shows up at the Senate and the
26:07
Republicans who should by this point know
26:09
where their cultural bread is buttered, that they are,
26:12
if they have a future, it is at the no
26:14
college party, at the
26:17
not wearing a suit party, they
26:19
just can't resist. They go
26:21
after the only thing they can see about them. And it just,
26:24
it shatters and destroys their programming
26:26
that allows them to just effortlessly array
26:28
things in the right cultural war
26:31
sides. And he's the guy, too bad
26:33
his brain apparently is not working
26:35
too good. Otherwise he would see the guy. Yeah,
26:38
I mean better the XXL
26:40
shorts and slide ons than
26:43
a hospital gown. I
26:46
mean I could care less if
26:48
his brain works. Like if he votes
26:50
right, I could put my hands
26:52
over his eyes and he could think I could disappear.
26:55
I don't care. You know, whatever. The
26:58
real thing for me that prevents me from getting
27:00
excited about any future prospect is
27:03
he just like, I mean, it's a calculation
27:06
I get, but nonetheless hate, but
27:08
he immediately folded on Israel.
27:11
You know, he immediately. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah,
27:13
he immediately, you know, it was clear. I want
27:15
to, you know, I want to, I want to smooth
27:17
ride to the Senate. Yeah, you know,
27:20
there are, there are jobs
27:22
in which like even myself, like I
27:25
feel a certain level of like, again, totally symbolic
27:27
reassurance by having the people doing
27:29
the job wear a suit. Like for instance,
27:32
a pilot on an airplane. Like I
27:34
know, even though I know he's an okay pilot, like if
27:36
my, if the airline pilot was dressed like John Fetterman,
27:38
I'd be like, I don't know how good I feel about that.
27:40
Again, totally irrational, totally symbolic
27:43
thinking, but like I'm just, I'm admitting that on
27:45
my part. US Senator is not one
27:47
of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
27:51
They should, I'm sorry. They should have to wear the
27:53
sports jerseys of the States. They represent
27:56
the only thing that they're allowed to wear in the
27:58
Senate, the place where Jim Imhoff
28:00
wandered in with a fucking snowball and
28:02
waved it around to prove the global warming wasn't real.
28:05
We, we, we are lying by putting these
28:08
apes in suits. So that's, that's betterment
28:10
slobbing it up, but I just have two more examples
28:13
here. A politician's slobbing it up. Governor
28:17
Kristi Noem having supposedly allegedly
28:20
years long affair with Corey Lewandowski.
28:22
That is, I'm pretty surprised
28:25
by that one. I mean, like I knew
28:27
that Corey had gotten with Hope Hicks. That's
28:30
old news.
28:31
I'm not bad at better. Don't worry.
28:33
I'm not. Well, it just, it makes sense
28:36
because he was, he was sort of
28:38
like the alpha male in that campaign
28:40
and that was like her only option.
28:42
It's whatever,
28:42
you know, when I'm, when
28:45
I, when I, when I get with her, I don't
28:48
care who she's been with, but
28:50
I don't care about body counts. Yeah,
28:52
I don't actually Corey Lewandowski does because he's
28:55
got one. He's got two. I'm
28:57
not talking sex, but
28:59
I am impressed that he fucked a governor.
29:02
Yeah. That's pretty impressive to
29:04
me. His murderous pollock charm
29:07
worked on a governor
29:08
granted of one of the Dakotas.
29:11
Yeah. It's still like a half, two
29:13
and a half governor. Yeah.
29:15
But it's still, you know, she gets
29:17
invited to, she was on the shortlist
29:20
for BP's for
29:22
Trump. Yeah. Cool. And
29:24
finally we've got
29:27
house candidate from Virginia, Susanna
29:29
Gibson, a Democrat was
29:31
doing sex on chatter bait with
29:33
her husband for tips, which apparently violates
29:36
chatter baits rules. But I got to say,
29:39
Susanna Gibson, even hotter than
29:41
Lauren Boebert. Whoa, we got to get
29:43
her into Congress. We need to make this happen
29:45
quick. She listens to Chappell misogyny
29:47
hour. We attract this various
29:50
women and their sexual affairs. This
29:53
story is kind of charming to me because like,
29:56
okay, chatter bait. Yeah. I
29:58
thought that was a thing. Yeah,
30:00
that's very quaint. It was sending
30:02
her butthole on friend sir. Yeah,
30:05
it's very it's like it's like cute Yeah,
30:08
um, I just love in the the Washington Post
30:11
coverage of this story. It says here Susanna
30:13
Gibson a nurse practitioner Hello nurse
30:16
and mother of two young children running in a highly competitive
30:18
suburban Richmond district Scream
30:21
sex acts on chatter bait a platform
30:23
that says it takes its name from the act of masturbating
30:25
while chatting online Look, I actually
30:28
I give her a lot of credit for this because she's saying that
30:30
she's not dropping out of the race and that Like, you
30:32
know like this, you know attack on her, you know, sexuality
30:35
or personal autonomy or whatever I mean, I
30:37
just give her credit for not dropping out of the race over this,
30:39
you know, I got a Charlie got
30:41
a little side hustle, you know doing doing sex
30:43
on can I would really be interested in the Federal
30:46
Election Commission? Ruling on whether you
30:48
can show whole online for donation
30:52
This is United they better allow you to
30:54
show a whole for money It seems like it's implied
30:56
very heavily by Citizens United so
30:58
she should rinse funds that way. Absolutely
31:01
moving on from the the
31:03
hijinks of Congress Let's talk
31:06
about the hijinks of the Air Force who
31:09
have lost an f-35 Straight
31:12
up lost an f-35 and
31:14
it is from the Wall Street Journal an Advanced
31:16
Marine Corps f-35 B Jet
31:19
fighter. Oh, wow. This is like the you know, next is even more
31:21
next-gen here jet fighter went missing
31:23
Sunday after a mishap Forced the pilots
31:26
to eject the near Charleston, South Carolina The
31:28
pilot ejected safely and was being treated
31:30
at a local medical center But the plane couldn't be
31:32
found as of Sunday evening a spokesman from
31:35
joint base Charleston said this
31:37
is I know Chris Love this story. He loved
31:39
this this part of the story If
31:42
you have any information that may help our recovery teams
31:44
locate the f-35 Please call the base
31:46
Defense Operations Center. The post said they're
31:49
putting out a 1-800 number for
31:51
just the Charleston, South Carolina area. They're
31:53
like, hey, have you seen this missing f-35? If
31:56
so call this number now
31:58
friends listeners
32:00
If you are a chopplehead in the
32:02
Charleston or just South Carolina area,
32:04
we would like to engage your services in
32:07
the most epic treasure hunt of all times.
32:10
This is like Mr. Beast here. Find that
32:12
F-35 and sell it to us so we can sell it to the
32:14
Chinese. This is your Mr.
32:17
Beast style challenge. $3 trillion jet?
32:20
Shrugging? No, we should absolutely not
32:22
give it to the Saudis. I'm sorry,
32:24
we shouldn't give it to China. We like China,
32:26
we should give it to the Saudis. Yes,
32:28
yes.
32:32
The best thing about giving an exploding plane
32:34
to the Saudis is you're
32:38
not giving it to a poor conscript
32:40
who didn't want to be there. All
32:42
the Gulf monarchies, the
32:45
modern version of the cavalry, the
32:47
spot for the nobility, is flying
32:50
hybrid fighter air-to-ground
32:53
multi-role jets.
32:55
Things like the piece of shit
32:57
F-35.
32:58
You are guaranteed to kill a member
33:00
of the royal family. Yep. The head's going to
33:02
fly right off. Although apparently this guy
33:04
ejected without being decapitated, so… Matt,
33:08
keep in mind, this is the F-35B. Oh,
33:11
yeah. It's showing out a lot
33:13
of the decapitation problems with the F-35A. They
33:16
got the kinks out, doesn't cut your head off every
33:18
other time you eject anymore. Some
33:21
people have speculated that the plane could still be on autopilot
33:24
and they're still just cruising around out there
33:26
or something? Oh, man. It's hard to believe
33:28
that an F-35 could crash in South
33:30
Carolina and they're still like… Yeah, you
33:32
can't just… Anyone got any…? Like maybe
33:34
into the Blue Ridge Mountains or something, where nobody else?
33:37
I don't know. I like to think, yeah, it's still
33:39
out there. Just still cruising down the lane.
33:41
Because he dropped a hoagie onto a
33:43
big button that said eject. I
33:46
don't know. I need more explanation of how the guy
33:48
ejected accidentally while just flying
33:51
the thing. I need to know how that happened. Did
33:53
the plane do it? Did the plane hijack
33:55
itself? Are we at that point? Are we in the
33:57
plane's stealth? So
34:19
that's just a few of the things going on. But I'd like
34:21
now to transition into another
34:24
sort of like the big political story
34:26
of last week and this weekend,
34:28
which is the Mitt Romney's
34:31
sort of retirement victory lap. You
34:34
know, like he announced over the weekend
34:36
that... Wait, which victory?
34:39
What is the Romney trophy
34:42
chest filled with? Well, this is my point.
34:44
His victory is retiring now. And
34:46
his victory is in his video where
34:48
he announces that he will not seek reelection. He
34:51
just says, it's because I'm too
34:53
old. And it's clearly like
34:56
a pointed bar at both Biden and
34:58
Trump. But I love the troll of
35:01
Mitt Romney, who is the handsomest
35:03
and healthiest 80 year old man on
35:06
the planet. Just saying, sorry, can't
35:08
serve an office anymore. I'm simply too old
35:10
and infirm. He's stunting on
35:12
him and good on him for that. But
35:14
like what I would say, like his victory
35:17
retirement lap is that like he now
35:19
gets to like sort of bow
35:21
out as a statesman and sort of have his
35:23
version of events sort of chiseled
35:26
into the tablet of his career. You
35:28
know what I mean? And
35:31
mainly this takes a form of a McKay-Koppens
35:33
piece, which is an excerpt
35:35
from a book coming out. It's settled
35:38
what Mitt Romney saw in the Senate. And you know, like it's
35:40
about his horror at like, you know,
35:43
most of my party doesn't even believe in the Constitution
35:45
anymore. But it's just a way to him. So like I
35:47
said, like, shank Biden and
35:49
the Democrats who were so very mean to him when
35:51
he ran for president, also like make
35:54
a stance for kind of like, you know, the sensible,
35:57
you know, constitutional style Republican.
36:00
as opposed to the
36:02
barking hordes of MAGA Republicans
36:04
who view him as a traitor. Now I
36:07
thought this was best summed up by
36:10
that guy, you know that guy Noah Blum?
36:13
Yeah. Yeah, real shit heads. No, Noah
36:15
Blum can do the film and put them out of there. Wonderful
36:18
job. As I said, he
36:20
writes here, the way Romney was treated, 100%
36:22
set the stage for Republicans to
36:25
want something like Trump. And y'all better
36:27
come to terms with it. Bill, it's once again-
36:29
Fuck off. Even the neoconservatives
36:31
are getting soy now. Yeah, soy is
36:33
everywhere. Soy is universal. It's like coral
36:36
from Armored Core 6. It penetrates
36:38
all. I
36:40
have to say, if you're Mitt Romney and
36:42
you want it to be normal time again, your best
36:47
hope would be a Biden 2008 or better
36:50
style blowout against Trump. That's
36:55
the only thing you can... It has
36:57
to be seven points or greater. It has
36:59
to... Biden has to win in 2024 by
37:02
that much or you're
37:04
not going to get to be normal again. I'm sorry. That's
37:07
just the way it is. Yeah, that's for sure.
37:10
They need just a huge... Just a
37:12
massive repudiation. And
37:14
I don't know if old Joe's got it in him, frankly.
37:17
Yeah. Let's just say a lot
37:20
would need to happen, wouldn't it?
37:22
So by creating
37:24
for himself this self-authored
37:27
moment of statesman-like humility
37:30
and bowing out with grace, like
37:32
I said, he's a reward for that as he gets
37:34
to write his own story about his career.
37:38
Which before I dive into
37:40
the McKay-Copkins piece in
37:42
The Atlantic, I just want to say that
37:45
despite the way he talked
37:47
about, mostly among Democrats now, Mitt
37:49
Romney's career was just
37:52
a thousand times more destructive
37:54
to American lives than anything Donald
37:56
Trump ever did with his chintzy real estate scams
37:58
and naming life licensing rights and shit
38:01
like that. It's a perfect, that dichotomy
38:04
is just a perfect illustration of how
38:06
these people are able to mystify themselves. Because
38:08
Mitt Romney now has, through this narrative,
38:10
convinced himself, well, you know, this Trump stuff's
38:12
bad, but it's not because of my party or
38:14
my worldview. It's because the Democrats were too unfair
38:17
to me when I ran for president, because I'm a good guy and
38:19
I'm not like this guy, but they treated me like a bad guy.
38:22
Meanwhile, he is actually responsible
38:24
for Trump, but not because the Democrats
38:26
were mean to him, but because he was
38:29
one of the corporate pirates of a
38:31
class of people who systematically
38:33
dismantled the manufacturing
38:36
economies of the Midwestern states that
38:38
Trump won in 2026, 2016. Yeah.
38:42
So he is literally responsible for it. Because
38:44
he lives in the fantasy land of politics, he gets
38:46
to tell himself, you know, it did come down to
38:48
me, but it came down to Democrats being so mean to me.
38:51
Unlike everybody else in every other presidential
38:53
election in history, like what the fuck do you think
38:55
running an election is? You are
38:57
very mean to the other side. You try
39:00
to scare people into voting against them. That's
39:02
what's always been. Republicans don't do that.
39:05
Yeah. They said that John
39:07
Kerry gave himself a bump like a pro
39:09
wrestler. And
39:13
they were right. They were right to. The
39:15
little purple hearts at the convention,
39:18
you crying bitch. Yeah. It's
39:20
politics. You know, girl. Mitt
39:22
Romney, Mitt Romney was
39:25
strip mining, you know, medium sized
39:27
companies three at a time for
39:30
what we asked. It turns out
39:32
to eat demonious, textile meals
39:34
of frozen salmon on hamburger
39:36
buns while watching sub prestige
39:39
TV alone. You have
39:41
the real he has like a billion
39:43
dollars. That is just bone
39:46
shilling part about it is that he did this. He
39:48
is one of the people whose blood is on his hands
39:50
for the republic that he thinks he loves. And
39:53
this is the 30 pieces of silver he got. Yeah.
39:56
Duke Cunningham had a boat. You
40:00
have it like Marty Hart after the divorce.
40:03
Yeah. If I
40:06
was Mitt Romney and I'm doing like
40:08
the Mcbeth thing of like, look, I'm already
40:10
going to hell. Like I already, I did
40:12
all this shit. I bought,
40:15
I have like a billion dollars. I have this
40:17
body on poison by
40:20
vaping or alcohol
40:22
or anything. What am I doing
40:24
with my billion dollars? Um, I'm
40:26
getting two drifters to fight each other in my living
40:29
room. Um, I'm, you
40:31
know, doing stuff like that. I'm playing the most
40:33
dangerous game. I'm not watching Ted
40:35
Lasso eating a misery
40:38
salmon meal. I'm
40:40
scrolling, scrolling online. Like every
40:42
other, you could do that on
40:45
like sub minimum wage, man. You
40:47
need to destroy the lives of millions
40:49
of people so you can live the way that like a
40:51
depressed middle manager does. It's
40:54
really, it's really, really bad.
40:56
I mean, all the other private equity guys,
40:59
uh, like Henry Kravis from barbarians
41:01
at the gate, they live in
41:03
the coolest places ever. Are
41:05
these guys bad? Yes. They're some
41:07
of the worst Americans last 50 years, but
41:10
Henry Kravis lives in a three story
41:13
apartment with a swimming pool
41:16
in not in the building, like in his unit.
41:19
In unity pool. Yeah. Well,
41:21
pretty cool. Pretty cool stuff.
41:24
What you're talking about, I think sort of gets to the
41:26
heart of Mitt Romney, like as a national
41:28
figure and like the way for
41:30
like, for the, for whom, like for the people for whom
41:32
he represents this kind of like, uh,
41:35
the, the road not taken for
41:38
Republic, like I sort of constitutional moderate
41:40
Republican statesman to like, you know, she
41:42
shepherd our country and the way that he
41:44
was never, it never really got over despite
41:46
the fact that on paper, everything like he was a
41:48
popular governor of a democratic state, you
41:51
know, like Obamacare was his
41:53
healthcare plan. He got the Olympics, the salt lake city
41:55
record of success in business, popular
41:58
in both Utah and Massachusetts. in
42:00
his holding political office. But
42:02
here's the thing, we've talked about it before, and
42:05
I alluded to this in his trolling of Trump
42:07
and Biden for being like, I'm too old. If
42:09
you had told me Mitt Romney is 80, I'd be like, you're
42:11
lying, get the fuck out of here. He looks 50
42:14
years old. And it's an advertisement,
42:16
him and his gorgeous, huge family, it's
42:19
an advertisement for the Church of Latter-day
42:21
Saints. But here's the thing, he talked about it many times before
42:23
on the show, Mormons and Mitt Romney
42:25
himself is too American
42:28
for America. When
42:31
we encounter someone who looks
42:33
like the president in a movie and behaves
42:35
like it, or is more American than
42:37
we are, it frightens. Who
42:39
the fuck are you? What's this? We don't
42:41
relate to him. Take it better than me? Yeah, we
42:44
do not relate to that. Yeah, it's a real original
42:46
reason why Homer hates Ned Flanders.
42:49
Yes.
42:50
Blainous Diaz, neighboritos. I
42:52
handle Flanders, but my friends call me Ned.
42:55
Hi, Flanders. I mean, Biden
42:58
polls bad, sure. He
43:00
underperformed in his last
43:02
election, but people
43:05
are way more comfortable with
43:07
the idea of Biden as president than ever anyone
43:09
like Mitt Romney. You know?
43:12
Yeah, you can't imagine what's going on in his mind. The
43:14
only actual bigotry that prevented
43:17
Mitt Romney from becoming the Republican
43:19
president of the United States is from evangelical
43:21
Christians who regarded Mormons
43:23
as a wildly heretical Blaserners.
43:26
Like, I mean, I don't give a shit one way
43:28
or another. Which it is, but what do
43:31
you think evangelical shit is? That's
43:33
a sweat off my nose. It's the perfection
43:35
of American Christianity. It is, that
43:38
shit from the evangelicals is just hater
43:40
fuel. That is just iterate. You got
43:42
blown, you got beat. Joseph Smith,
43:44
he had a little bit of a step on you, and he
43:46
perfected American Christianity. Undrafted,
43:49
undrafted. We're hooting on jugs and
43:51
giving yourself strychnine poisoning. Joseph
43:53
Smith, he was from a
43:55
big East Conference school. No football there
43:57
at all. Undrafted, comes into the league.
44:00
of major American religions blows
44:02
everyone out of the water. Evangelicals are
44:04
fucking, they're broke. They
44:06
want to be ballers. Divorced multiple
44:09
times. Yeah, they suck. What
44:11
have we, we've said it a million times. Mormons
44:13
are everything they pretend to be. Indeed.
44:17
Evangelicals have to do this like, um, subterfuge
44:19
where they draw Jesus in increasingly
44:22
like whiter shades to make him look more and more
44:24
American. Uh, Mormons are like,
44:26
no, he was American. He was American. He
44:28
came to hear. Yeah. That's
44:31
called going for it. Yeah. They didn't give
44:33
a fuck and they, they paid. It's like, I'm
44:35
sorry. You guys couldn't handle being Mormon.
44:38
You could not stand up to the rigors of it.
44:40
So just go to your mega church. Yeah.
44:43
No, and no evangelical could handle the
44:45
pressure of being a God on a planet.
44:47
Oh my God. Running, running
44:50
their own planet. They can't even run Liberty
44:52
University. Just a
44:57
little bit from the Atlantic article. Cause like
44:59
in addition to his mind of Jason fail
45:01
meals, there's some pretty, pretty good color
45:04
about Mitt Romney, including this first paragraph for
45:06
most of his life. Mitt Romney has nursed a
45:08
morbid fascination with his own death,
45:11
suspecting that it might assert itself one day suddenly
45:13
and violently. I mean, like, bro,
45:16
you've won. You're in your eighties and could
45:18
probably run a marathon tomorrow. Like
45:21
just forget about it, dude. Just take a load
45:23
off. Like it doesn't matter. But
45:25
he says he controls what he can. Of course
45:27
he wears his seatbelt and diligently applies
45:29
sunscreen and stays away from secondhand smoke
45:32
for decades. He's followed his doctor's recipe
45:34
for longevity with monastic dedication. The
45:37
lean meats, the low dose aspirin,
45:39
the daily 30 minutes a sessions on the stationary
45:41
bike, heartbeat at one 40 or higher. It
45:43
doesn't count. He would live to be 120
45:46
if he could. So much is going to happen.
45:48
He says when asked about this particular desire, I
45:51
want to be around to see it. That's ominous.
45:53
But some part of him is always doubted that he'll
45:55
get anywhere close. The
45:57
great eye will open. But
46:00
a guy like that says it. Project
46:08
Arcturus will be culminating. We're
46:12
finally going to divide the sectors
46:15
of America into
46:17
different corridors. We're
46:20
going to elect the flesh emperors. I'm
46:24
hearing that our red heifer research
46:26
department is getting really close. But
46:31
he says, he has never really interrogated the cause
46:33
of this preoccupation, but premonitions of death
46:36
seem to follow him. Once years
46:38
ago, he boarded an airplane for a business
46:40
trip to London and a flight attendant whom he'd never
46:42
met saw him gasped and rushed
46:44
from the cabin in horror. When
46:47
she was asked what had so upset her,
46:49
she confessed that she'd dreamt the night before
46:58
about a man who looked like him, exactly
47:00
like him, getting shot and killed
47:02
at a rally in Hyde Park. He
47:05
didn't know how to respond other than to laugh
47:07
and put it out of his mind. But when a few days
47:09
later he happened to find himself on the park's edge
47:11
and saw a crowd forming, he made
47:14
a point not to linger. Can you imagine
47:16
how happy he would have been if he had been
47:18
in the Capitol on January 6th?
47:21
Oh my god. He pulled apart
47:23
the captain in Day of the Dead. Show
47:26
him! Show
47:29
him! Show
47:29
him! It would have
47:31
been like in the last season
47:33
of The Shield when Shane Vendrell
47:36
is suicidal. And he's
47:38
trying to die as a hero all those times,
47:41
all those great scenes. And then
47:43
he gets to be just shredded
47:45
by his fellow Republicans. Yeah.
47:49
I do have a similar thing to
47:51
this, honestly. Like
47:54
a little bit. I had a huge
47:56
hypochondriac, so I'd absolutely get
47:59
him on that. I'm not a hypochondriac
48:01
at all. I'm kind of like the opposite. I
48:04
feel like it's so- No, I mean, you either think you're gonna die of the
48:06
disease or something, or you think something's gonna kill you.
48:09
What other things could stay on it? I think it's
48:11
the other thing. Like disease, I feel
48:13
like someone could tell me I have cancer and
48:15
I could just sleep it off.
48:17
I'd be fine.
48:18
But like, I did have- I
48:20
had like a dream, like
48:23
a sleep paralysis thing more so when I
48:25
was a kid that was like basically
48:28
told me I was gonna die on a Tuesday.
48:31
And ever since then, I have just- I've
48:33
been terrified of flying on Tuesdays.
48:36
I've been afraid of like really doing anything.
48:39
And like, I have, you
48:41
know, again, not a hypochondriac. I don't
48:44
think any- like, I
48:46
talked about this on Twitter. Like
48:48
Jewish people can withstand heart attacks,
48:50
leukemia, being 80 years old. None
48:54
of that bothers me. That's not scary
48:56
to me. I just- I think it would be
48:58
like a freak thing. Like a crazy
49:00
person shoots me in the head or something like
49:02
that. That's more kind of like
49:05
myth. Yeah. And I feel
49:07
like for whatever reason- like it has- in
49:09
reality, what actually is that? It's pretty-
49:12
you know, it's the same thing that dreams always are. It's
49:14
a jumble of the conscious and subconscious. And
49:16
it doesn't- a lot of the times it doesn't actually
49:18
mean anything. And this one assuredly does it. But
49:21
you know, we assign special providence to these
49:24
things. So I end
49:26
up having the same thing as him. I
49:28
will avoid, yeah, being
49:30
in an airplane on a Tuesday for that reason. I
49:33
mean that is- I mean, yeah. If I had
49:35
a dream that I remembered that vividly of
49:37
some being telling me that a citizen is going to die
49:39
on a Tuesday, yeah, I would not be-
49:41
I'd be not- I'm not going out for
49:44
Taco Tuesday. I'd be staying indoors on Tuesdays.
49:46
This is probably kept in faith,
49:48
but sometimes I do think like, well, it hasn't
49:50
happened yet. My
49:53
outfit. It's capable of wearing an outfit.
49:55
So far, so good. Now, Ronny's
49:58
premonition of death is- is used to set
50:01
up an incident in which the
50:04
main independent senator, Angus King,
50:06
Angus King is his famous steakhouse, or
50:08
rather not of his famous delicious steakhouse,
50:10
which he should be running instead of whatever dumb bullshit
50:13
he's up to. Basically
50:15
just about how Angus King relayed to him a message
50:18
from a general, I believe,
50:20
one of the handsome generals about all the chatter
50:22
or pre-January six that they were hearing on social
50:24
media about people arming themselves
50:26
to come to DC to kill Mitch McConnell.
50:29
And then Romney gets Mitch on the phone and is like, Mitch,
50:31
have you heard about this? Like, I'm very concerned that Mitch
50:34
is just like, new phone, who this? And
50:36
like, basically he tells Mitch McConnell and he's
50:38
like, yeah, let me get back to you on that. And then just doesn't do anything.
50:41
And then there's another part where like Mitch is talking shit
50:43
about Donald Trump. And then of course, he claims
50:45
never to have said it, anything of the sort. But
50:47
that that's not the interesting part of this article. The
50:49
interesting part of the article is this in
50:52
the dining room, a 98 inch
50:54
TV went up on the wall and a leather
50:56
recliner landed in front of it. Romney,
50:59
who didn't have many real friends in Washington, ate
51:01
dinner alone there most nights watching Ted
51:03
Lasso or Better Call Saul as
51:05
he leafed through briefing materials on the
51:07
day of my first visit. He showed me his freezer,
51:10
which is full of salmon fillets that had been given to
51:12
him by Lisa Murkowski, the senator from Alaska.
51:15
He didn't especially like salmon, but found that
51:17
if he put it on a hamburger bun and smothered it in
51:19
ketchup, it made for a serviceable meal.
51:24
Salmon with ketchup on a hamburger bun.
51:26
Oh, you know, you can't let it go to waste. Mr.
51:28
Hot dogs, you personally are responsible for probably
51:30
hundreds of thousands of fentanyl deaths. And
51:33
you're worried that you're going to waste Murkowski
51:35
salmon. Just this is the definition
51:38
of conversion. It does make me
51:40
like Murkowski because it's like, she
51:43
knows no one wants
51:45
to eat that much salmon. She knows
51:47
that. And it feels like a bullying
51:49
thing. Like she does that to anyone she wants to fuck with
51:52
like a dumb ass. Here's 200 pounds of salmon.
51:55
Enjoy trying to fit this in your apartment. That's
51:58
pretty funny. Yeah, but yeah,
52:01
it actually surprised me for a guy as healthy
52:03
as he is that he doesn't like salmon and that
52:05
like, you know hot dog meat Favorite
52:08
meats. Yeah Jim
52:13
is good in certain context. I think the salmon
52:15
is delicious I don't know what you're talking about when
52:17
you get it nice so that the pieces just kind of fall
52:19
apart You make sure there's enough olive
52:22
oil some garlic and lemon juice in there Sounds
52:24
like you should go to the Senate put maybe a
52:27
yogurt based sauce So like I like
52:29
a teriyaki salmon that their meat miso
52:31
glazed salmon. It's delicious And
52:34
oh if we're talking cedar plankton
52:36
herb crust These
52:40
are not plank salmon This is this is frozen
52:42
salmon that he's defrosting and putting
52:45
ketchup on he could be better than this
52:47
and enjoy Jesus sick I'm sorry This
52:49
this close this close to mind You
52:52
know like a sense of memory of the famous
52:54
frank luntz profile with him. Oh, yeah,
52:57
spag Bowl What does it get through me and
52:59
this is as good as it gets for me? And they
53:01
just him like no friends The
53:04
image of him eating a salmon ketchup
53:07
burger watching Ted lasso on a 98 inch
53:09
screen Well half-hearted
53:11
no wonder he's trying to get out of this Dude
53:16
decree the state we pleasure don't You
53:23
Doing this is the worst ruling class
53:25
that has ever existed J.P. Morgan
53:28
drink so much that he had a
53:30
cauliflower shaped growth coming out
53:32
of his nose Yeah, he
53:35
was something to look at. Yeah,
53:37
he JP Morgan got
53:39
pussy He did all day every day.
53:41
Yeah, he had parties
53:44
where he would eat like 85 oysters There
53:47
hasn't been this austere a member
53:49
of the ruling class since John D Rockefeller himself
53:52
the original sicko It's true. And
53:54
that's why he's got to be there signing
53:56
laws and why he tried to be the guy killing
53:59
people with like drone strikes and invasions
54:02
because he needs that because that's how much of a pervert
54:04
he is. Because that is what
54:06
draws politics.
54:08
Perverts. I gotta say there's a little
54:10
bit of news, or at least not news, more
54:12
just reminding us of something we all should
54:14
know. That
54:15
shit about him trying to warn Mitch about January
54:17
6th in advance. It really does remind you that
54:20
it was not some surprise that these fucking
54:22
hoopleheads are going to storm the palace. They
54:25
were all talking about it, and yet there were still
54:28
like what? Like two rows of
54:30
guys just kind of standing like
54:32
assholes in front of the Capitol?
54:35
Somebody made a decision at some point to
54:37
let this shit occur. I don't know
54:39
if there's any way you can argue against that because look
54:42
at what happened when they inaugurated the motherfucker. They
54:44
had the entire National Guard bayonets out
54:46
on the fucking lawn. They could have had
54:49
that on January 6th, and these fucking
54:51
pussies weren't going to do anything if that had happened.
54:54
Yeah, I mean like, Mitt Romney hears it and takes
54:56
it a thousand percent literal, but Mitch McConnell,
54:59
that's why he never got back. He's like, they're going
55:01
to kill me. Who cares? He's like,
55:03
I love that. They're going to kill me and my
55:05
wife. I
55:09
can finally go to hell. I'm 500
55:12
years old at this point. I would love to
55:14
die. I actually,
55:17
you think I'm a human. I am a mutant
55:20
descendant of those 500 year
55:22
old fucking tortoises and
55:24
I'm yearning for death. In
55:26
Elden Ring, one of the big things is they
55:29
took out the rune of death and there's
55:31
no more. There's like, you can't die
55:33
anymore unless like a magic guy
55:35
killed you and you're just, so
55:37
you're just condemned to like eternal shitty
55:40
life. And I feel like that's what happened
55:42
to him. Yeah. That's why he jazzed those spells.
55:44
He's waiting. He thinks he sees them like
55:47
in the scrub. It's like, is that him? Is that the magic dude?
55:49
He's going to finally free me from this and then,
55:52
oh, shit. The
55:56
last thing I want to read from the McKay Coppins
55:58
profile though is this. Shortly
56:01
after moving into his Senate office, Romney
56:04
had hung a large rectangular map on
56:06
the wall. First printed in 1931 by
56:08
Rand McNally, the Histo map
56:11
attempted to chart the rise and fall of the world's
56:13
most powerful civilizations through 4000 years
56:16
of human history. When Romney first acquired
56:18
the map, he saw it as a curiosity. After
56:20
January 6, he became obsessed with
56:22
it. He showed the map
56:25
to visitors, brought it up in conversations
56:27
and speeches. More than once he found himself
56:29
staring at it alone in his office at night.
56:32
The Egyptian Empire had reigned some 900 years
56:34
before it was overtaken by the Assyrians. Then
56:36
the Persians, the Romans, the Mongolians, the
56:38
Turks. Each civilization had
56:40
its turn and eventually collapsed in on itself.
56:43
Maybe the falls were inevitable. But what struck
56:45
Romney the most about the map was how thoroughly it
56:47
was dominated by tyrants of some kind. Barrows,
56:50
emperors, kaisers, kings. A
56:52
man gets some people around him and begins to oppress
56:55
and dominate others. He said the first time
56:57
he showed me the map, it's a testosterone
56:59
related phenomenon perhaps. I don't know.
57:01
But in the history of the world, that's what happens. America's
57:04
experiment in self-rule is fighting against
57:06
human nature. This is a very fragile
57:09
thing, he told me. Authoritarianism is
57:11
like the gargoyle lurking over the cathedral, ready
57:13
to pounce. For
57:16
the first time in his life, he wasn't sure if the cathedral
57:19
would hold. I just love the idea of him being...
57:22
Up until January 6th, he was just like, check
57:24
out this histo map. It's a cool thing in
57:26
my office. And then after it, he's like staring
57:29
at it, like, you know, with a... over
57:31
a sniffer of chocolate milk or something, just
57:34
going, all civilizations must crumble.
57:37
All great men must fall. Here, behold,
57:39
Ozymandias. Yeah,
57:41
he's reading some W. Cleon Skousen,
57:44
everyone's favorite Mormon apocalyptic
57:47
nutso, who loved to talk in those giant
57:49
historical terms. The
57:51
West has fallen. Millions,
57:54
billions must cry to Ted Lasso.
58:00
But yeah, I mean, I guess something like, first
58:02
of all, like January 6th, that's your first indication
58:04
that like the gargoyle of
58:06
authoritarianism stalks the battlements
58:08
of American democracy. Okay, sure.
58:11
And then like, and that's its first,
58:13
you know, you know, barrage
58:15
across the across the bow is January
58:17
6th. But, you know, again, it's just
58:19
like, this is a guy who's been like a
58:21
down the line Republican his entire fucking career.
58:24
And now he's just like, our civilization
58:26
is about to crumble. You know what will stop it me
58:29
resigning and setting an example
58:31
for everyone. And you know what, they're like, I
58:34
think it's weird, like, the Mormon thing, because
58:36
you're thinking in terms of eternity, you look at like ancient
58:38
Egypt, ancient Rome, you know, the
58:40
Persian Empire, it's like, oh, they all were around
58:42
for like, like, you know, nine centuries and then fell. That's
58:46
a good run. Who cares? Like,
58:48
we're fucking ahead of the curve as far as that goes. And
58:51
it's just sort of like, I don't get it. Also, like, I was essentially
58:53
despairing about like the rise and fall
58:55
of civilizations. It's just like, it's
58:57
because the way we remember history. We
59:01
remember history in these periods, like the this
59:03
empire then it fell, the Semper than it fell. And then
59:05
the gaps between is just this empty
59:07
space. But although there
59:09
tends to be less archaeological evidence
59:12
for those times, which is why we don't
59:14
have as much of a thick historical narrative
59:16
around them, people still obviously we're
59:18
living. People were
59:21
obviously surviving. People were loving and
59:23
all the stuff we're doing, they were doing all that
59:25
stuff. They just weren't making as strong
59:28
a record of it because there wasn't
59:30
the density of civilizational structures.
59:33
But they weren't all gone. There were still
59:35
this social fabric
59:38
that persisted. And we can't,
59:40
because that's, since it looks like a black hole from
59:43
the from our position, we just assume
59:46
that that's all there is, is these, this fall. This
59:49
fall into a chasm, when in reality it's people
59:51
adjusting to changing conditions
59:53
and evolving new social
59:55
structures to deal with those conditions. It's
59:58
the same thing that history always is. It's
1:00:00
not the end of anything. It's the continued
1:00:02
transformation of one more
1:00:04
internal thing. Yeah. I think like, you know,
1:00:06
it's with the Mormon thing. It's like you need to, America
1:00:08
needs to be eternal because if America falls,
1:00:10
it's like the world ends. Yes. Yeah. I,
1:00:13
but it also, I mean,
1:00:15
like there's nothing I hate more
1:00:17
than like the people who
1:00:20
are the most comfortable
1:00:22
of the most comfortable, like, uh,
1:00:25
I hate anyone who has the same
1:00:28
job as me and is like, well,
1:00:30
it looks like we're all going to die from
1:00:32
climate change or fucking whatever. And it's
1:00:35
like, we, we don't even, we
1:00:37
don't even have to answer the same emails
1:00:39
as normal people. Do you think you're going
1:00:41
to experience climate change in the same way that somebody
1:00:44
from fucking Bangladesh will? But
1:00:46
like, I just, the
1:00:48
constant obsession with the world ending
1:00:50
by people who are uniquely insulated
1:00:53
from, you know,
1:00:55
whether they are apocalyptic or
1:00:57
just bad things happening, those types
1:01:00
of events is incredibly frustrating,
1:01:02
but it also does
1:01:04
make me think like, okay,
1:01:06
the world has ended a billion
1:01:09
times before the world, as
1:01:11
people have known it has ended. I'm
1:01:13
sure for people living, you know, from 1916 to 1919, it felt
1:01:16
like the world
1:01:18
was ending and it was to an extent.
1:01:21
They were witnessing horrors that
1:01:24
are unparalleled, uh,
1:01:26
compared to anything that we in
1:01:28
America, people who mostly
1:01:31
listen to the show or, you know,
1:01:34
have a computer job experience today.
1:01:36
That's not to say that like everything is great,
1:01:39
but truly, truly cataclysmic,
1:01:42
like era ending things have happened
1:01:44
and humanity doesn't just stop. There
1:01:47
are those, as Matt said, periods
1:01:49
that aren't as rigorously recorded,
1:01:52
but periods of adjustment. And
1:01:54
the thing is though, they're not scared that they're
1:01:56
going to die during this stuff, really what they're scared
1:01:58
of is that they aren't going to die during.
1:01:59
this period.
1:02:00
Because these periods
1:02:03
are filled with horrifying turmoil,
1:02:05
mass death, and not
1:02:08
equally distributed mass death. And the
1:02:10
people who survive are changed by
1:02:12
that experience. And their conceptions
1:02:15
of morality and right and
1:02:17
identity are broken and reformed
1:02:19
by that process. And people who have fetishized
1:02:22
their personal ego and identity
1:02:24
as the only real thing in the universe clutch
1:02:27
so hardly at it that the thought
1:02:29
of losing it is worse than death. And
1:02:32
so they would rather fantasize that they're going to
1:02:34
personally die so they don't have to worry about going through that transformation
1:02:37
than realize, oh, like for me and my children,
1:02:39
things are going to be different. I'm going to have to value
1:02:41
different things. And that is so
1:02:44
terrifying when we're addicted to the
1:02:47
meager pleasures that we've afforded ourselves now
1:02:49
that, yeah, we'd much rather fantasize about
1:02:52
a cataclysmic ending in record with
1:02:54
the moral responsibility of continuing. I
1:02:56
think even more terrifying to people, more
1:02:58
terrifying to people who are on the more comfortable side
1:03:01
is the idea that if
1:03:04
you don't die, and yes,
1:03:07
it's unevenly distributed, and others
1:03:09
are dying in your place, then
1:03:13
you have to grapple with what that means.
1:03:16
You have to grapple with what
1:03:18
your life means. What does it mean
1:03:21
that maybe in as
1:03:23
much as anyone deserves this, when
1:03:25
climate catastrophe is happening at an
1:03:27
increased rate compared to what they
1:03:30
do now, you may
1:03:32
deserve it more, but it's not going to happen to
1:03:34
you. You have to figure out what all
1:03:36
of the rest of your life means. That's
1:03:38
a horrifying proposition. Yeah. And
1:03:40
that's why all the energy is on a right wing
1:03:42
that has an answer to that question, and
1:03:46
turns the horrors of this thing into
1:03:49
a necessary and virtuous cleansing. And
1:03:51
then you can continue being the
1:03:53
same kind of subject you are now with the same spectacular
1:03:56
view of politics that
1:03:58
you have now. same relative ease
1:04:01
and comfort and never worry yourself again. Because
1:04:04
you will now have a world where you'll
1:04:06
either fall off the beam and it doesn't matter, or
1:04:09
if you stay on it, you get to cheerlead the
1:04:11
process of transformation
1:04:15
in its worst and most formally
1:04:18
self-consciously evil manifestation. Yes.
1:04:21
One posture is we
1:04:23
have to kill everyone even approaching the
1:04:25
fence, and then the only other posture
1:04:27
is being 5,000 miles
1:04:30
away from the fence and going, can you believe they're killing
1:04:32
all of us at the fence? Yep. That's
1:04:35
it. We all got it coming. The rest
1:04:37
is just vanity. All right,
1:04:40
gang. I think we'll wrap it up there
1:04:41
for today. Anything to
1:04:43
plug? Any announcements for the end of the show? I
1:04:46
would just say if you like the line of
1:04:48
thinking that concluded this episode, I have a little podcast
1:04:51
to recommend you. It's called Hell on Earth. We get way
1:04:53
into this exact
1:04:56
discussion of it's always
1:04:58
the end of the world in that show. If
1:05:00
you haven't listened and you like that talk, check that one out.
1:05:03
All right, gang. Until next time, bye-bye.
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