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Welcome to the Prompt Engineering Podcast,

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where we teach you the art of writing effective

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prompts for AI systems like Chat,

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G P T, mid Journey Dolly,

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and more. Each week we

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explore prompting techniques, interviews

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with experts and newbies, and tips

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on selling your prompts. Here's your host,

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Greg Schwartz. Welcome everyone.

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If you have a prompt you would like to collaborate, Ellen,

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please go ahead and put that

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into this

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form. Okay looks

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like I

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haven't seen anyone with a prompt,

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so if anybody does have a prompt that they'd like

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to collaborate on, go ahead and write

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something in this chat and

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you can paste

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it into this form.

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If not, I'm gonna pull up one of the prompts

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that I've been working on. Yeah,

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I think let's do this. Do, let me

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pull up. So for

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some context, I ran

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a big analysis of Prompt

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Base, which actually I just realized you may not know what

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Prompt Base is. Prompt Base is a place where people

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sell ChatGPT prompts. I

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ran a big analysis of it because

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I wanted to figure out like what are some good

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areas for me to focus on for writing prompts

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to sell? So this is the

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analysis and Here is the,

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5,000 or so different prompts

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from prompt Base and it's got

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the price, it's got the number of sales, it's got

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the amount sold, et cetera. Anyway,

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I analyzed this, turned it into

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basically categories, so

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prompt base has these

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categories, but they're very broad.

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And so I want it more finely green categories.

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And then I turn those into basically

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what are a bunch of niches that have high sales

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and low competition and medium

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competition, that kind of thing. So anyway, the reason

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I bring this up is I've been wanting

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to use this to basically

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look at two different ones that I've been

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thinking of mostly cuz they're of interest to me,

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which is podcasting and dating. That

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said I'll put it up to a vote

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for the room. Is there any of these.

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That sound particularly interesting to build

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a prompt around right now cuz we're just gonna

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go build one. Put

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in the chat if

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I'm seeing some other messages. Okay, cool.

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Put in the chat if there is one of these

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categories that sounds particularly exciting to you.

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And if not, I'm

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leaning towards podcasting.

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Feels a little bit too meta, so

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maybe event planning, but yeah,

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put in the chat if there is a category

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that you're like, Ooh, I want to do that.

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It looks like a couple people are joining.

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Ah, welcome John. Like

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some people are unmuted. Morning. How

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you doing? I'm doing good. It

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is very early here, but

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I'm glad to have people. I'm

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in San Diego, so this is 8:00 AM

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that's okay. It's, I'm in Dallas, just so it's 10.

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We're two we're two hours. Yeah. See, that's a lot better.

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, actually, I meant to put in

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the chat. Where is everybody from?

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Sorry. Please put in the chat, where

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are you from because I am

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curious and I'm seeing, all

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right. One, two

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event planning votes. So

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here is the way that this is intended to

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be used. We're gonna go over

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here and we're just gonna turn on

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filter and then we're gonna

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sort this to be event planning.

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Awesome. Okay, so

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we've got some things we can compare

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to. So we've got a launch post, we've

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got an event plan, we've got a workshop or webinar,

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kids party event planner, kids party,

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kids dream. Oh, okay, I get that.

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Wedding invitation event planner.

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Okay. So particularly looking

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at the sales, there is a

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rapid drop off here. So

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I think what I'm gonna do is

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pull up these top

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three prompts. We can take

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a look at exactly what they do, and

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then we can go do some iteration.

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Oh, and I see we've got, Germany

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and the Netherlands. Awesome. Okay, cool.

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Glad to hear it. I actually have some friends in

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both of your countries, so that's awesome to

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hear. All right, so this,

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wait, this is the least performing. Okay. This

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is the best performing one. So

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what is this for? Oh,

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this actually is not event planning. Okay.

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So yeah, the

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chat g p t analyzer

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didn't do the best job of realizing

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what this is. This is actually a marketing post

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sorry, a marketing prompt. So

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let's set this one aside. Maybe we'll come back

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to it. Okay, so this

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is Wow, that's a really vague

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input, but let me increase the font

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size makes this readable. So

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this one that's performing well is

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basically generate ideas for

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an event. you know, you put in a very

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short description, which I would say maybe

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do a little more than that, but Okay. And then

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it outputs a theme, decor,

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what food you want, how to

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promote it, all kinds of stuff. Actually,

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I wonder if there's a way I can share my screen

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to have both of these visible at once. While

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I'm doing that, throw in the chat, which

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of the techniques you think we should start

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with, or for that matter, just like

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what text you think we should start with for

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the prompt. So first

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we're going to do a little bit of roleplaying. So

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as a, as

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an event planner with

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10 years of experience. By

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the way, I know the role

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part of, as an event planner, that

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definitely makes a difference how much of a difference

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the 10 years of experience thing makes. I'm

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not entirely clear. And this

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next piece, I'm also not positive

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how much of a difference it makes. I actually want to do

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a bunch of testing on it, but

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it ha, I think will be worth

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playing with here. In fact, maybe I'll just rerun it

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a couple times and we'll see With

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extensive knowledge

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of fun activities.

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Let's see party themes,

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costume themes, when

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relevant, and

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let's see, what else should we throw in here? Basically

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what I'm doing is I'm, I am prompting

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the prompt Got an interesting

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suggestion. What if you did X amount

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of events successfully planned instead of X

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years? So I'm

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going to actually not

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keep iterating on this yet. I'm

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just gonna copy

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this. I just opened a new tab. So we're

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just gonna say, let me just finish this off and then

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we're gonna try that idea Philip costumes

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run relevant and how to make a

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party awesome. Please

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advise me on

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how to create

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the most exciting party

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ever. I will give you

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a sorry. Ask me

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for the theme.

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Number of guests and

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age of guests, cuz we want to do

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actually just, we don't even need you to say age kids,

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Mr. K, kids versus

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adults. I should

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make that a little bit clearer. And if the party

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is for kids or

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adults, then

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output. And of course this is part

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of the reason I left this on screen. Let's

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see. So what did this

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prompt do? Audience and venue. We

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already talked about theme and decor.

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Okay, so then output ideas

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for theme

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sorry, not theme, costume

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theme if relevant. Cuz

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if you're doing an adult party, I

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don't know, launching your new

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book or something like that. Maybe themes,

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costumes isn't really as relevant. So

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food to have, activities

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to run during the

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event. And

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then, let's see. This

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is getting into logistics, which I actually

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think is a really silly idea, but

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I like the timeline bit. Timeline to

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market long,

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no, how do I say this? To

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invite guests

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market can't spell today,

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market it to keep

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their excitement up. I

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might even throw in some wording about it being marketed

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on social media, cuz frankly that's where pretty

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much we're all doing it. But we'll leave that alone. And.

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Times two. Actually, I'll, no,

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I'll just keep this together. Times two. Send

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reminders. All right, so we'll start

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there. And

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now I'm gonna let that run and in the background,

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actually that was quick. Good.

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Okay. I don't even need to do it in the background.

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I can just do this. Okay.

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So the tweak we were going to make was,

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what was it again? Oh, X amount of

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events. So that's gonna be as an

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event planner who has planned,

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yeah, I don't know, 42. Cuz that's

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a number. I like 42

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successful events. All

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right, so we're gonna run the exact same thing. Not

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really gonna be very different.

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Oh, now that's interesting.

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Wow. I'm pretty shocked.

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Okay, so saying

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as an event planner with 10 years of experience

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with extensive knowledge da, it

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responded. It interpreted

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that as chat. E p t

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is the one with the 10 years of experience. But

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saying as an event planner who has planned

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42 successful events and then no changes,

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it immediately went on to Great

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to hear about your successful track record as an

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event planner. That's

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so weird. Okay, so to create the most

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exciting party ever, let's start with some basic information.

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It asked the three questions. I wanted it to just like the first

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one did good, but then it

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gives me this long-winded answer of I can

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provide ideas about how to create an amazing party.

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Yeah, this. This is

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odd. Okay. Honestly, I actually wanna just run this

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again cuz I'm wondering if there's

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something weird with just this

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one run. Let's

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see. Does it, how does it behave

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this time? Okay,

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so this is an example of the,

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effect of temperature and creativity

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and all of that stuff on chat

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G P T. I just ran it again

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and it just did exactly what I expected it

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to. Please let me know the theme, the guests, and whether

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it's for adults or kids. All right, we'll come back to that

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very talkative version in a minute. Theme

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I should have had you all brainstorm some themes

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while I was doing that. What what

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theme do we want to do for this? We

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could do, I

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suppose I should have said the occasion as well,

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but How about we do,

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let's see what's coming up right now. Can't

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think of any big holidays that are coming up right now.

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We'll just do spring. So

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the theme is spring guests is,

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eh, just say 20. Just make it easy.

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And this is an adult party rather

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than a kid party. And this will be interesting

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to test some variations on. And actually,

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let me say, spring is here.

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Regrowth sorry. Growth

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and rebirth. That's the words I'm looking

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for. All right. So we'll paste

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this in here, we'll paste

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this in here. Oh,

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interesting. I've never actually tried generating

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one at the same time. It's, it

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forced me to wait. For

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the prompt in one screen to finish

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generating. So we'll just read

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some of this off. Here are some ideas for

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an exciting party with the theme of spring is Here.

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Growth and rebirth costume theme.

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Encourage guests to dress in colors that

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symbolize Spring pastel Hughes

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Bright greens. Okay,

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I don't know about that. Or dress up in Floro prints.

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Sure. Alternatively, you could ask

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them to come in outfits that symbolize

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growth or rebirth, such

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as costumes of baby animals or mythic

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creatures like unicorns in Phoenixes.

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That's a bit of a stretch, but interesting

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idea. All right, let's let this run

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here. Let's see. Second thing,

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decorations, floral

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potted plants. Spring theme banners.

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Yeah, makes sense. Serve.

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Light, fresh, colorful

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foods that evoke the feeling of spring.

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That's an interesting phrasing for food. Fruit

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platter with fresh berries, melon and pineapple,

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vegetable platter with carrots, celery, and cucumber.

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That doesn't, that just sounds like what you'd normally

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have at a party. Okay. This really does,

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you could serve bite size appetizers, like Britta,

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CAPI skewers or mini kes. Yeah.

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This is not spring-ish

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activities. You

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could set up a terrarium making

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station. Okay. That's

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actually cool. I kind of like that idea.

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Okay. And then timeline. Send

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an invitation at least three weeks in advance. Give

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guests plenty of notice. Yeah.

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Okay. So this timeline is terrible. We'll

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come back to that in a minute, but I wanna see

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how does this compare? So

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interestingly, this one. Yeah,

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so the has planned 42 successful

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events basically didn't have any effect. The

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only differences I see is

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it's talking about a mocktail

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or cocktail would be great,

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versus the one with

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10 years of experience said

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a specific suggestion. How about a strawberry

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mojito or a lavender lemonade? Okay.

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I just chalk that up to the creativity,

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not as much to, one prompt is better than

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the other. The activities

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are a little bit better, but pretty similar.

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Now, the timeline is actually a good

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bit better. So this could

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be just down to randomness again, but

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one difference is the timeline for the

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events planned says

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you can create excitement leading up to the event by sharing

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sneak peaks of the decor and menu

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on social media or sending emails to guests,

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whereas the just 10 years of experience

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said, create excitement

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by teasing the theme and mentioning some of the activities

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that will be happening at the party. And

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definitely think like putting on my marketing

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hat this one about like

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sneak peaks. People love

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sneak peaks cuz it's behind the scenes.

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Whoops. And so

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that's always really exciting. All right,

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so I'm gonna

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try another variation here.

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So copy this. Prompt

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paste it in. So

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Josh is bringing up that you can rerun

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the last generation and

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yeah, let me rerun that cuz this

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is showing the Yep, the error.

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So if I do a rerun and

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part of the advantage of doing a rerun is

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I don't have to put in

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the prompt and this context again, part

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of the disadvantage is it's

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a little bit harder to keep track, but

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you've got this right here, this little three

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of three, you can click on it and

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page through the different

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responses are one's not very helpful, but three.

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Three is pretty much the same. Yeah,

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it's mostly the same. Interesting. All

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right, so I saw in chat someone

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suggested calling

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out Act as

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an event planner, or you

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are an event

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planner, and I wanted

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to test that nuance. So

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we're gonna run that and feed it the same

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thing. While that is running, I'm

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going to go over here, make

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yet another prompt,

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so you

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are an event planner. Now

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the other thing that I want to do is

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going to add the step by.

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Phrasing. What

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I'm gonna do for this first one is just

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for the timeline, because that's the one that makes the

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most sense for step by step, I'm gonna

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say step by step, sorry. In

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the output ideas, instead of the part

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where it's just timeline, I'm gonna say step by step timeline

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to invite the guests, blah, blah, blah. And

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the step by step basically

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causes it to think

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using so, so a way you could describe

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how open AI works that I've heard that's very

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helpful is, It's

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like a person with a scratch pad and they're literally

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thinking, ha, yes, this is doing exactly what I wanted.

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Sorry. It's a person

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with a scratch pad and if you say something

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like, I don't know what's 42

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times 76, most people are gonna

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be like, ah, okay,

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let me go, work on the scratch pad for while. They can't just

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be like, two times four is eight chat.

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G p t does the same thing, but it

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has the I don't know. That's overwhelming

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response to most things and

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saying think step by step causes

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it to use the scratch pad in

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a more refined way is

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the way I've heard it explained. Turns out

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it did exactly what I wanted with this,

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the step-by-step timeline now instead

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of before it was, send invitations

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a few weeks in advance, send a reminder.

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Market the event, keep guests excited,

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blah, blah, blah. Now what it's doing is

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six to eight weeks before the party, choose a date.

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Send out, save the day messages, four to

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six weeks. Send out official invitations

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with all details, including theme, dress

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code, and all the other important information. Two

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to three weeks. Follow up with your guests who confirm

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their attendance. Remind them of the upcoming

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event one to two days before

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the party. Set up the party space. Decorate,

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prepare, duh day, the party.

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Alright, that one's kind of silly, but most of these

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are really good. Let's see

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somebody put in chat. I

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would like to, I think

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maybe there's a typo in the message cause I'm not understanding

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I did this to define what I wanted. I'm

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an event planner with 10 years of experience and 42

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years under my events, under my

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belts, I would expand into different

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areas. How and where can I do

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this comfortably? Oh.

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Oh. I think what you're doing, John,

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is you're saying here's a way to

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expand what the event planner

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is working on. Okay. Got it. So

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that is an interesting idea. I wanna stay focused

19:08

on this for a little bit, but we can pivot to

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that in a minute. The other

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piece that I wanted to apply to, this

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is twofold. Number one,

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yet again, I'm gonna open a new tab, I

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have a prompt building prompt

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as meta as that sounds. And

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I wanna run that actually

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have two so we can try both

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out. All

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right, so paste that in. Great.

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So now it responded

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basically with Cool. Go ahead. Event

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planning prompt that

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asks for, there

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we go. Event planning, prompt. Ask

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me for those things, output ideas

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for these things. And

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let's see. The prompt also said

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do understand the context and style that you prefer.

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Prefer an

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interaction of one

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round of prompt and

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tone. Should be informal.

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Not. Sorry. Informal and excited.

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All right, so let's see. What's the prompt?

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Okay, this didn't really work. So

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this is the second time I've tested this prompt

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out. First time it was okay. This time

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it's not, what it's doing is just

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responding with, great,

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let's plan it right now and

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not actually really getting into

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the prompt that you want is

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blah, blah, blah. So I'm just

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gonna abandon that for a second. We're gonna

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go use this other

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prompt generator cuz

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I've run across at least three, although I can

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only find two at the moment. I'm sure there are

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others, but we'll

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run this. Great.

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Okay, so now. We're

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gonna paste in the exact same

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response to the second prompt generator,

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which is asking what should the prompt be about?

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Nice. Okay, so first off,

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it's saying revised prompt. You are tasked

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with planning a party. The theme is up to you, but I will need

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to know the number of guests and if the party is for kids or

21:20

adults. Once I have that information, I

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can give you some ideas for costume,

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decor, et cetera. Then it goes

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into suggestions. So to

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improve your prompt, it would be helpful to know

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if there are any specific requirements or preferences

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you have for the event, dietary restrictions,

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indoor, outdoor, particular type

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of activity you wanna include, et cetera. It

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would also be useful to know the time and date of

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the event, which actually I would probably not agree with,

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but as well as budget and

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then, It outputs. Here's

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the questions that I would suggest you include.

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So now this is where it gets interesting.

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Gonna open yet another tab and

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run this prompt.

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In fact, actually, let me just do output prompt

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with your suggestions. This

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will just make it easier to copy and paste. Oh,

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interesting. All right. That didn't work. I

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asked it to to output the prompt

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with the changes, and it totally failed. Okay,

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we're gonna just copy and paste this a little bit, and

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I've run into this a few times with this

22:25

prompt builder where it's like

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it's giving you good ideas, but it's not actually

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capable of just boom, here's your new prompt. Okay,

22:32

so I can give you some ideas

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for these things.

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So then we'll

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just paste the questions, see

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if this works. Great.

22:46

So it's responding to me with the

22:48

now eight questions that it is up to.

22:51

I don't actually want to fill all of these out, but

22:53

we'll just do some of them here.

22:56

So spring is the theme. Guests

22:58

is still 20 still for adults. The

23:01

event is going to be next

23:03

weekend. I don't know. Actually no, that's a bad example.

23:05

Cause it'll freak out about, there's no time

23:07

to market. Let's see. Let's say

23:09

May 15th. I don't actually

23:11

know what day of the week that is, but whatever. Where

23:14

will the event be held outdoors?

23:18

No restrictions. Although

23:21

that is an interesting idea to throw out some curve

23:23

balls of yes, the food has to be gluten free

23:25

or vegetarian, or, I don't know. No

23:28

specific activities and budget. I'm

23:32

just gonna say no budget, just to see what it does.

23:35

Cool. All right, so it's giving me some of the same

23:37

ideas with the pastel or floral

23:39

colored clothing. It's not

23:42

suggesting bright green, which is

23:44

a good thing cuz that suggestion was terrible.

23:47

Decor's better. So this is saying,

23:50

how about hanks and paper lanterns and streamers

23:53

in the shades of pink, green, and

23:55

yellow to represent the colors of spring.

23:58

And also again, put plants around

24:00

cause that adds the ambiance. Same as before. Food-wise,

24:04

pretty similar. It's actually

24:06

a little less creative. So

24:09

I'm going to, I'm

24:11

not gonna run this over here. But

24:14

I'm just gonna, oh, actually

24:16

I can do, can I do that? Yeah,

24:19

let's try rerunning this.

24:23

So number six

24:26

was, are there any dietary restrictions or preferences?

24:29

No. Please make the food as

24:31

creative as possible.

24:34

And I think this might overwrite this

24:37

one here. So let me just see. Is there anything

24:39

else that was interesting? Most

24:41

of these are pretty similar

24:45

timelines. Not helpful. Interesting.

24:49

Nice. It is suggesting a budget of

24:51

five $2,700 based on

24:53

the size of the guest list and the outdoor location.

24:57

All right, so running it again with the, please

24:59

make the food creative. Let's see what it

25:01

comes up. Ooh. Did

25:04

not do a good job with the creativity on the food.

25:06

Interesting. All right I'm

25:08

going to just

25:12

go back to this version cuz that was

25:14

very mediocre. And

25:17

then, let's see,

25:20

I think I

25:22

want to try and run this

25:26

version and give it some clearer instructions.

25:29

And there is also somebody

25:32

had posted a prompt improver.

25:35

See if I can find that. By

25:37

the way, we've been at this for about

25:39

30 minutes. So if anybody has a prompt

25:42

that they're like ooh, I know what I want to build, I wanna

25:44

build. Yeah, I don't know. But

25:47

if you have something in mind that you'd like to

25:50

collaborate on, then go ahead and put that

25:52

in the chat and I can

25:54

unmute you Let me copy and paste this,

25:58

make yet another new

26:02

tab. So first

26:05

off, we're gonna do the step by step thing again,

26:07

which it lost at some point. Think

26:10

step by step. And

26:13

then once you've done all of that wait,

26:17

I think I need to do it. Yeah.

26:19

Okay. Ask these, those

26:22

questions. Once

26:25

I answer, gonna

26:27

throw in the step by step again, just to be safe, stink,

26:29

step by step. And

26:33

think about what

26:36

you could. So this is an example of metacognition.

26:40

Think about what you could do to

26:42

provide better results

26:44

and ask those questions first.

26:47

I actually should say, think about what you could ask

26:49

me not to ask me

26:52

to provide better results and ask those questions.

26:55

Great. Okay, so same answers

26:59

can go in here. Okay.

27:02

So pasted the same exact answers in, and

27:05

it is not really listening to

27:07

the ask some more questions, directive.

27:11

It's simply outputting a bunch of stuff,

27:15

most of which looks pretty much the same.

27:19

All right, so we'll try this a slightly different way.

27:22

What questions could you ask me

27:24

to make this party

27:27

more creative? Yeah,

27:29

that didn't do great on

27:32

that. Oh, I see

27:34

a message in the chat. Yeah,

27:36

I think Robert, that, I

27:39

think that's actually the prompt creator that I

27:41

pasted. Which

27:43

tab did I have that open in? Ask

27:45

him what the prompt is. Revised output.

27:48

Yeah, that looks pretty similar. Let me try running yours

27:51

to just see if it is different.

27:53

Copy, paste

27:55

this in, run it and

27:58

go back to here what the prop should

28:00

be about. And I'm

28:02

actually gonna take out this

28:04

cuz I wanna see what it comes up with. So

28:06

let's just say it is an event printing planning

28:09

prompt. It should

28:11

ask me for details,

28:14

then ask clarifying

28:16

questions, then

28:20

output the plan for

28:22

the event. See what it does

28:24

for that. Yeah, it's still. Excuse

28:27

me. Still doing roughly the same.

28:30

It's not actually really outputting a prompt.

28:34

It's outputting a little more a dialogue

28:36

to ha to discuss the idea

28:38

here. All

28:41

right, so I'm just gonna go back

28:43

from that. So

28:46

these are the questions. Could you help us make your party

28:48

more creative? What's your favorite aspect of spring?

28:51

Okay, that's interesting. Outdoor locations.

28:54

That would be good. Do

28:57

you want a d IY station?

29:00

Interesting. Are there any activities

29:02

that you wanna try? Yeah, that's okay. Tell

29:05

me what to tell you is basically what the AA is

29:07

doing with number four. And

29:09

then have you considered having a theme

29:11

within the overall spring theme, such as

29:13

a garden party or a tea party? This

29:16

could add a fun, creative twist to the event. Oh,

29:18

it's saying basically narrow down the

29:20

theme. That's an interesting approach.

29:24

I don't know if I totally agree, but it's an interesting

29:27

thing to at least consider. All

29:29

right. I want to take a different approach.

29:32

One of the reasons that I've, one

29:34

of the things I've run into with this kind of thing

29:37

is really getting

29:39

frustrated with rerunning prompts

29:41

all the time. This is a tool I built to try

29:43

and make this easier. It's semi

29:46

publicly accessible. If

29:48

you want access to this, let me know,

29:51

but I'm not like advertising it. So

29:53

we're gonna create a prompt and just call, call

29:55

it event hosting, whatever. And basically

29:57

what this is there's this history section

29:59

at the top. This is where the prompt

30:01

goes on the left. And then

30:04

you can collaborate with chat g p t down here.

30:06

I'll give that in a second. And then these

30:08

are test cases. So let me actually just find

30:12

the original prompt that we've been using for

30:14

a bit. No. Where's

30:17

the last one? There we go. Okay.

30:20

So the idea is you

30:23

put in variables.

30:25

So the variables in this case

30:27

are going to be the things we were saying ask

30:30

me for. Cause we don't need to do

30:32

them anymore. So the theme

30:34

is, Square racket

30:37

theme. I am expecting

30:40

square bracket number of guests

30:43

and of guests.

30:47

I could actually just say number of we're

30:50

just gonna say kids or

30:52

adults also in square brackets.

30:54

All right, great. So what this is doing is now

30:56

I can run like a spring themed

30:59

party here, spring and renewal

31:02

with 10 kids,

31:05

and then we're gonna do another one.

31:09

It's being

31:11

buggy. All right whatever. I'll come back to that

31:13

in a second. This one's going to be,

31:16

I don't know, Halloween with

31:19

30 adults. Over

31:23

here while I'm waiting, yeah,

31:26

I do have the two improver prompts. Okay. The idea

31:28

of this is exactly like I was trying to do in

31:30

the chat over here, where

31:32

I was like, give me a better version of

31:34

this prompt. But what this

31:36

does is basically just replace, here's

31:40

the improver prompt, and here is my prompt.

31:42

Please give me answers on

31:45

please gimme feedback. So

31:48

it's giving it 80 out of a

31:50

hundred. That's absurd,

31:52

but, all right. Whatever. We'll try and prover

31:54

number one. Let's see. And

32:00

asking for ideas. Okay, these

32:02

finally finished. Let me just go run these ideas

32:04

again. Fresh. Awesome.

32:06

And now this one, the improver is finally getting to

32:09

here's ideas for improvement. More

32:11

details about the theme. Yes.

32:14

All right. So yeah, this is one of the problems

32:17

with this improver is it mostly focuses

32:19

on, give me more variables, which

32:22

valid but not really as helpful.

32:25

All right. Now the nice,

32:28

okay. So we'll come back to this improver

32:31

idea in a minute. But what this

32:33

is saying is both

32:36

of these are coming up with pretty

32:38

run of the mill costumes. Pretty

32:41

run of the mill themes.

32:46

Yeah. Okay, cool. So this is part of why I wanted

32:48

to be able to do this. So

32:50

now we're gonna tweak, make some tweaks, please output

32:53

creative, wild

32:56

and unexpected ideas

32:59

for blah, blah. Let's see

33:01

what they come up with. And

33:04

ha. Okay, this is already better. So

33:07

for the Halloween one, it's saying, why don't

33:09

you do a Halloween, sorry, a theme

33:11

of horror movie villains. And then it listed

33:13

some, and then it said for the kids you could

33:15

do a spooky animals theme.

33:18

Decor is pretty run of the mill

33:22

food. You see now it's doing a

33:24

lot better output. Here are some spooky

33:26

cocktails. Blood orange margaritas,

33:28

black widow martinis, mummy

33:31

dogs. Oh, okay.

33:33

Also known as pigs in a blanket, but Wrap

33:35

the hotdog in a pastry, basically

33:38

in a roll. Let's see, for the spring

33:40

ones, eh,

33:42

this is a little better. Okay. Yeah,

33:45

it's a little better. So this is part

33:47

of what I'm really trying to

33:49

solve with this, cuz this is the problem I keep

33:52

running into is every time I make changes

33:54

to this, I have to then rerun it in multiple

33:56

screens. And that's annoying as let's

33:59

see what else we can do. Let me give myself a little

34:01

more screen space here. Please

34:03

advise. Okay. Those,

34:06

so we lost the step by step somewhere.

34:09

So step by step timeline

34:11

to invite guests, blah, blah, blah.

34:14

We're gonna also throw in specific

34:16

recommendations for

34:20

the food decor

34:24

f. Decor. I'm gonna

34:26

leave alone, but

34:28

I do want to come back up here and we're

34:30

just gonna throw a couple of other ideas

34:33

in. And this is called shot prompting. So

34:35

in other words right now I'm doing

34:37

zero shot prompting, which is, I

34:39

am not telling it any examples. What

34:42

I'm going to do is say, for

34:44

example, if

34:46

I ask for

34:49

a party party

34:52

I need to do something that is not either of the ones that I'm doing

34:54

right now. Let's

34:56

see, how about a summer party?

34:59

For a summer party? And

35:02

actually I should reorder these. Sorry,

35:04

I'm just realizing that no,

35:06

that'll be okay. All right. So

35:08

if I ask for a summer party suggests

35:12

drinks and outfits

35:15

people can wear, suggests

35:19

exciting activities such

35:22

as that's I don't actually

35:24

know what an exciting activity for a summer party would

35:26

be. That's funny. We're

35:28

gonna go with cornhole. I

35:30

don't actually like it, but it's a good example. And

35:35

potato sack races. I really don't

35:37

like those, but it is at least

35:39

entertaining. So part of what I wanna

35:41

do here is just see by prompting,

35:44

by, by giving it a one

35:46

shot, see what it comes

35:49

up with and, oops, another bug. Okay.

35:51

I lost the lost

35:54

the values in here. So Halloween,

35:57

that was gonna be 20 and I think it

35:59

was gonna be, I

36:02

don't remember. I'll just say adults. Yeah.

36:05

Yep. That bug is still there. It's yeah, you're

36:07

right. It is continuing to

36:10

mess up the output and merge two separate

36:12

outputs in, so this makes

36:14

no real sense so far, but once

36:17

it finishes, in fact, it's actually three

36:19

outputs because it's running it once

36:22

with spring, once with the number, and once the kids

36:24

are the adults. Oh boy. I

36:26

will see if I can fix this. Yeah.

36:28

But Since I'm working on this, by the way,

36:31

is this something that makes sense

36:33

to you all? I know I need to add

36:35

a lot of clarity

36:38

on like how this works and stuff. I'm figuring,

36:41

probably adding just like a, some

36:43

arrows basically saying your prompt goes here,

36:46

you test things here, but is there anything

36:48

that you're like, I just don't understand the concept?

36:51

Go ahead and put that in chat. And it looks like

36:53

I missed some chat messages. Oh

36:56

Yeah. People have been polishing their resumes

36:58

with chat t p T. That totally makes sense. Okay,

37:02

there we go. So

37:05

let's see what it comes up with. Do.

37:10

Costume theme is mediocre.

37:14

Decor was good. I like that spooky atmosphere

37:16

using dim lighting, fog machines, and fake

37:18

spiderwebs. It's not in any way creative,

37:21

but it's at least interesting.

37:24

Oh, drinks are pretty run of

37:26

the mill photo

37:29

booth with Halloween props. I like that. Okay,

37:32

so let's see, did I, I

37:35

didn't actually have anything special on the activity,

37:38

so that's interesting. And the

37:41

timing one is, yeah, good.

37:43

The timing one is coming up pretty nice. Let's

37:46

just expand these to make this easier to read.

37:49

All right. Food

37:51

not helpful. Yeah so

37:53

this is part of the reason why I'm doing

37:56

this in here. The food is continuing

37:58

to be I

38:01

guess these are not bad,

38:03

but so I'm just gonna say specific recommendations

38:06

of. exciting drinks

38:09

or creative drinks. I don't know. Sometimes

38:12

I feel like I should just embed a thesaurus in this

38:14

thing to just be like, gimme a bunch of

38:16

words for this. Creative drinks

38:19

along with their ingredients

38:22

and no, actually I'm not gonna ask

38:24

for instructions on making them. That's a little much decor

38:27

particularly to

38:29

stand out from other

38:33

conventional parties.

38:38

Great. And

38:41

last wanted

38:43

to include, I liked how, I

38:46

think it was over here. No,

38:49

maybe it wasn't over here. One of them was like,

38:51

here's my suggestion for a budget. There

38:54

it is. Okay, so suggestions

38:56

of budget

39:00

and, oh,

39:02

that was the other thing I wanted to change in

39:04

here. I guess I should be doing these as not

39:06

numbered bullets just to make this cleaner.

39:09

Whatever activities to

39:11

run during the events. Quiet

39:13

what's the right way to say this? Active

39:16

activities, a little repetitive, but whatever.

39:19

Quiet or

39:21

relaxing activities

39:23

for the event to

39:26

allow guests

39:28

to socialize and

39:31

without being as physically

39:34

active. Actually

39:36

that's what I should clarify, this physically

39:39

active activities to.

39:42

Run during the event. Might be the wrong word.

39:44

So to offer during

39:47

the event. Okay.

39:49

Fix my numbering here. Budget's

39:51

number seven. Go again.

39:54

Oops. Come on, run. That

39:57

might have caused a bug

39:59

and we may get double output on this. We'll see.

40:02

Oh, and I just noticed my history is totally

40:05

not working cuz it's not updating.

40:08

That's interesting. Okay, that's another bug. Lemme

40:10

write that down. All right.

40:14

Yeah. Okay. Food and drink is definitely

40:16

coming out better. Physical

40:18

activities, we've got a pumpkin carving station

40:21

or pin the spider on the web. The

40:23

dale on the donkey. Nice. Versus quiet

40:26

is a cozy lounge with Halloween

40:28

themed books, movies, and maybe

40:30

a tarot card reader or a psychic. Okay.

40:32

I like that. That's a lot cooler. Timeline

40:35

looks pretty similar, so I think I'm gonna work

40:37

on that next. Yeah.

40:41

That's the Springs timeline is not

40:44

bad. Let's

40:46

see. Go back

40:48

up here. Oh, that's,

40:50

I like that creativity. Wait, what did it come up with

40:52

for this for the spring cleaning?

40:55

Sorry for. A spring party,

40:57

it said you could do a flower power theme, which

41:00

especially in the states would actually be pretty

41:02

good. But you could also do a spring

41:04

cleaning theme where guests

41:06

dress up in their best cleaning gear, aprons,

41:09

rubber gloves, feather dusters, whatever. That,

41:12

that would be a fun way to play with the whole, spring

41:14

theme. Garden party

41:16

atmosphere drinks.

41:21

Okay. I don't drink, so this doesn't actually

41:23

sound good to me, but it's at least an interesting idea

41:25

of a refreshing spring

41:27

punch made with fresh fruit, sparkling water,

41:29

and a splash of vodka scavenger

41:32

hunt for physical flower,

41:35

crown station, or coloring

41:37

book station for the quiet activity. That's

41:40

good. I like that. And

41:42

then budget is, yeah I

41:44

don't know if that's actually accurate or not, but interesting.

41:48

Okay. Yeah, it definitely knocked it out with

41:50

Halloween. I think it just likes Halloween

41:52

better than a spring party,

41:55

which I can relate to, so I don't totally blame

41:57

it. All right. Let's

41:59

see. Oh, wow. I just noticed

42:01

I've got two minutes left. I'm going

42:03

to paste this in the chat

42:07

if you could give me feedback on

42:10

what was the most useful parts, what do you wish was

42:12

different? Cuz I'm gonna keep doing these

42:14

and I would love to, hear about what helps

42:16

and what doesn't. Yeah,

42:19

let me know. And the

42:21

other thing is the

42:24

podcasts and the YouTube

42:26

channel are coming along. If this

42:28

was helpful for you, follow me on YouTube

42:31

apple Podcast, Spotify, wherever it is that,

42:33

you consume these things, that

42:35

would be super helpful. And look

42:37

forward to your feedback and

42:40

thank you so much. If you've got any questions

42:42

go ahead and put them in the chat. And I'm

42:44

scanning the chat cause looked, I missed something

42:48

really interesting how powerful, but cumbersome,

42:50

the tool-based optimization of props is.

42:52

Yes, it definitely is. If you're

42:55

still here, Lars, I

42:57

would love to hear an

43:01

example of that. I think you're unmuted.

43:04

Great. I was I do the optimization of

43:06

prompts always by try and error and manually

43:08

and just see what happens when

43:10

you change some input parameters.

43:13

And yeah, it's obvious

43:15

that using tools you are

43:18

way faster, can way do better

43:20

iterations, can do a well

43:24

process where you have a certain outline and a

43:26

certain steps that you re repeat

43:28

all the time. And I. Sort

43:31

of aware that this should be that

43:33

is obviously in the software world, that is

43:35

something like this available,

43:38

but I haven't really played around

43:40

it. And so that was a good eye-opener

43:43

on one hand. And on the other hand, I thought thinking

43:47

of the, where he started,

43:49

we made some progress, but

43:51

it's far from perfect that it's far from just

43:54

pushing one button and oh yeah,

43:57

this is something I you

43:59

always compete with. What could humans do?

44:01

And I think thinking when, if

44:04

we would've just talked about how could we make

44:06

an awesome party for kids, an awesome

44:08

party for adults, maybe we would come up with

44:10

same and other things. But still

44:12

it's the way to learn to

44:15

work with the tools, which is really an eye

44:17

opener. Thank you very much. You're welcome.

44:20

And I think. I

44:22

just realized I don't actually know if I put the let

44:25

me see if I have the gum road link

44:27

here. Yeah, if you

44:29

want this list of

44:32

prompts analyzed and all that,

44:35

it's in the chat right now and you

44:37

can go grab that. If you have

44:39

questions on it, I'm happy to just,

44:41

hop on a Zoom call or something like that and talk

44:43

you through it. Thank you all so much for

44:45

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44:48

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