0:00

You just hate it when you lose the TV remote,

0:02

but it's the annoyance of having to get up and walk to the TV to adjust the volume

0:06

or change the channel, or searching through the couch cushions

0:08

over and over again to find nothing but rubbish crumbs

0:12

and kids toys. Literally not a problem for me.

0:15

It will be a problem. There will be. Some saying yes.

0:18

Or you lose your wallet. Having to replace all those cards,

0:20

or even the car keys about five minutes before you meant to leave for work.

0:26

I'm wondering about. More about this episode now. What did John. Lose?

0:29

So you madly dash around the house

0:31

multiple times searching for them all?

0:33

Very frustrating, right now.

0:35

Imagine if you lost something way more important.

0:38

Something that could change the earth.

0:41

I'm not speaking metaphorically either.

0:43

This episode, we're looking into the tiles.

0:46

That's right. Plural.

0:48

More than one of when America lost a nuclear weapon.

1:05

Now you're worried.

1:07

That's a big thing.

1:09

Yeah. That's an issue.

1:12

That's a. Big issue. Details.

1:16

I have so many tabs open for this one.

1:18

Episode 75.

1:21

Yeah, we should have made it episode 76. Really?

1:24

Oh. So close. Yeah, that would have been perfect.

1:27

Oh, well. It could be 70. Six. That'll make sense in a minute.

1:30

I didn't actually go back and check.

1:32

Know? Yeah. Before. Before we get into anything, I would like to bring an issue,

1:36

as Sean just. Said, issue up.

1:40

What's the issue? What's the issue? Boy, you've already conveniently clip this out for us.

1:44

Yeah. Yeah. So we are going to play on balls again. No.

1:50

I'm going to play a clip. It's on our, Sorry, one. Of our short.

1:54

Shorts. I can see the one.

1:56

I'll play it here for you.

1:58

Let's play it. And then Sean. And I, a while ago decided we were going

2:01

to get really into hurling.

2:03

Yeah. I'm away. He was aware of that. Yeah. This is like 3 or 4 years ago.

2:07

Okay. You've never mentioned that since.

2:09

These people don't know that. Oh, every Irish person that comes in

2:14

here. We talk about. Oh, no, don't tell me again. Don't ever mention it again.

2:18

It's defeats the purpose podcast.

2:22

Anything I already know. Never mention it.

2:26

Go home. John, you're drunk.

2:29

So John, you are. But is this an elaborate ad for our shorts?

2:34

No. This is an absolutely massive lead in to.

2:37

My issue is if you notice at the start of the clip,

2:40

when I say I already wear this, there's someone else going,

2:44

yeah, John already knows this. And then at the end of the clip, someone's part of me

2:48

go do good. You do, you drunk. You were crying with my.

2:51

You know what? When I edited it, I did notice that.

2:55

I noticed that Sean's like. Why are you saying that? Yeah.

2:58

Think he turns three times 180 and he's on.

3:02

You know, you're going to have the school, the workers talking.

3:06

Herb. You're drunk. You agree with me hurling thing, but I, you know.

3:11

Yeah, he knows you were with me. I had an epiphany.

3:14

Halfway through my ribbing that I was like, you know what?

3:17

Hang on a minute. You were with me.

3:23

Then you raped me. Betrayed me.

3:25

I'd like to say that from the very beginning, I was against you.

3:28

Yeah. I don't know if I'm with you. This is. This is a.

3:30

I'm picking a bone with Sean. Turn! Cut!

3:33

But this is your last time, isn't it? Ten.

3:35

I turn out. Well. Ten Coke, two on it again.

3:38

Two lines turn. To. Untangle. It.

3:41

Turn. Okay. Did you see that little picture I did of you with that?

3:44

Yes, I did. You change both of my hands?

3:46

Two irons. I did two iron.

3:49

Anyway, like you said,

3:53

every bit of a cheeky plug for short,

3:55

but they've been very, good lately. Boy.

3:57

Well done. I've been enjoying your shorts. Thank you to both of you for making the content easy to find.

4:04

Okay, so back to this episode.

4:06

For me personally, and probably a lot of people actually,

4:10

thermonuclear weapons have been a hot topic lately.

4:13

That's pretty funny. I see what you did there.

4:16

No, it's not the early 60s, with the threat of the world being obliterated by nukes.

4:20

Instead, these weapons of mass destruction

4:23

have been prevalent in pop culture.

4:25

They have.

4:28

and really, it's

4:30

the blame of two brothers.

4:32

For me. It started a couple of weeks ago when Oppenheimer came to Netflix.

4:37

I was saying this today that, like Oppenheimer

4:40

was this massive thing. Everyone was talking about it.

4:43

Bob and Hymer, it won like Best Picture at the Oscars and everything.

4:47

And it came to Netflix. You put it on, you're like,

4:50

hey, Oppenheimer's pretty good, all right. I'm like, yeah, boy, yeah, it is.

4:54

It's really good. Well, I didn't get a chance to see the the movies,

4:58

and. I saw it on a 35 mil film because, you know, I'll just.

5:03

It's the one. Person. All I wanted just wanted to say it.

5:06

Saw an on 70 mil film. Sorry. It's even better.

5:09

I saw it on 70 mil film, and I only had to ruin my knees once.

5:13

Seats were too close and I couldn't stretch my legs. Oh, they were bad.

5:16

Sorry, I didn't get a chance to go to the.

5:18

The cinema. The theater to see it.

5:22

I was aware of the,

5:26

You were aware that it was a movie. It was a movie.

5:28

But I was aware of the whole Oscars thing.

5:30

yeah. I'm gonna I'm going to start a yearly thing, right?

5:34

The first chance I can. I want to watch whatever wins.

5:38

pitcher of the year. So I did that last year with,

5:41

every everything everywhere all at once, which is cool.

5:44

Sorry. Thank you. Another of. I, actually, but I want to make it a thing

5:47

that every year, whatever, I'm going to make it a thing.

5:50

I'm watching this movie won best picture. Sorry, how that relates to nukes.

5:55

People in the audience. Audience? Martin. No, they might know.

6:00

it is about. It's like a biopic.

6:03

Do you say biopic or biopic? Bio biopic?

6:07

Actually, I say biopic because that annoys people.

6:10

Okay. It's about the man who led the project

6:13

who created the the world's first atomic

6:16

weapon. Well, led the project.

6:19

That's what I said about the man who led the project that created the world's first. Are you. Listening?

6:23

Not really. Go home. You're drunk.

6:28

So, yeah, it's a fantastic movie.

6:31

It's not even just the context of the movie, which was

6:35

not so much about

6:38

the creation of the weapon, all the other stuff.

6:42

It was a lot of talking, which I thought was good.

6:45

Well, this is the highest praise I've heard give.

6:48

It was it's a three hour movie.

6:50

I bet a lot of meetings and talking. Yeah. And doesn't feel like a three.

6:54

everybody loves it. Yeah, yeah. So

6:57

if you haven't seen it, I recommend it's on Netflix.

7:00

I can tell you when you can't bend your legs,

7:02

it feels like a three on. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough.

7:06

it did win a total seven awards,

7:09

including best director.

7:11

And the director is one half of our brothers

7:13

that I mentioned earlier. Christopher Nolan.

7:15

What is your favorite Christopher Nolan movie?

7:20

Dark Knight. Dark Knight Rises, or.

7:23

My Dark Knight? Oh, yeah. Yeah I mean, yeah, I yeah, I love that movie.

7:30

Dark Knight Rises was too long. Interstellar hacks. I haven't seen that.

7:34

No, it's Oppenheimer. Oh, really? Yeah.

7:36

I just think it's so good. I would have said,

7:40

Dark Knight as well. I think that is the.

7:42

It's pretty. It's brilliant. Yeah. But I didn't like The Dark Knight Rises as much.

7:46

No, not as much, but. Yeah. Yeah, well, you gotta remember some of the ones he's done.

7:50

He's like you said, interstellar. Inception. Tenet.

7:54

yeah. I did tenet.

7:56

I changed my answer. I forgot about tenet.

8:00

I love tenet, he hasn't seen it.

8:03

He's been trying to get me to watch it for, like, three. You need to see it.

8:06

Yeah, and you're gonna have to watch it twice.

8:08

At least three times. At least twice.

8:11

but there's some of the earlier stuff that I haven't seen, but a lot of people talk about,

8:14

like memento, and it's in some. Yes.

8:18

I've always wanted to watch it because they bring it up in Brooklyn Nine-Nine and pimento,

8:22

which rhymes with memento. It hasn't seen the movie, but he remembers finding Dory

8:26

and they go on and on and on about how he revisits

8:28

the finding Dory disease, but he doesn't know memento.

8:32

Yeah, right. Yes.

8:34

Well, like I said, Chris is one half of your brothers.

8:37

Yeah. The other half is Jonathan Nolan.

8:40

And he's hiring, having current success with the TV show

8:43

for real? Pull out, fall out.

8:45

One of the challenges. He is the executive producer on all eight

8:48

episodes and directed three of them. I'd like to reroll and go war.

8:54

It's pretty the same high.

8:57

He's also been a writer for a few of his brother's

8:59

movies as well. I believe he wrote Memento.

9:03

In That's It. I've had enough of this conversation because I want to talk about fallout.

9:07

Love the show. I've had the best week watching it.

9:11

Can you stop? No.

9:14

Let me read. Boy, I know you're a bit of a fan of this fallout franchise.

9:18

I want to give our audience a quick break from the premise of the show.

9:21

I'm a no. Spoilers fallout fan. There are.

9:25

There's probably one quarter of my full lap merch

9:27

in this room right now. The rest of it is elsewhere.

9:29

I've got all the games, two.

9:32

Of the objects in this room. I have a huge problem with I.

9:34

I and. Here is Brie in irons, full set of power I'm about.

9:38

To bash. She's not in frame. why aren't you wearing.

9:41

You've also. Yeah, not in the dry cleaners.

9:46

so fallout is a series, of games.

9:49

It's about like one, two, three, four.

9:54

New Vegas. Seven six. 76. Seven.

9:58

Tactics. Brotherhood of steel.

10:00

Yeah, that's not canon, doesn't it? There's about eight games.

10:04

the I think, and now the TV show on top of that,

10:08

the premise of fallout is,

10:11

what if we had gotten to the point of nuclear war?

10:15

so it starts changing from the real timeline

10:18

in like the 50s and 60s when they would have dial up the microchip or the.

10:23

it was when America made the decision not going to Vietnam that was where it deviated.

10:29

and it goes along to the point where,

10:32

nobody knows who, but someone set off the nukes, destroyed the world.

10:38

and there's only a certain number of vaults left

10:40

that have people in them. Well, it. Was China and America.

10:43

Yeah, but I don't know who Newt, but who nuke first.

10:46

Yeah, but essentially, the vaults are like

10:49

all experiments, and the games are like,

10:51

oh, let's go out into the wasteland and do stuff.

10:54

usually it's like, let's save the vault somehow.

10:58

fantastic series. Love it to death. And the TV show.

11:02

Yeah. Chef's kiss. Spot on.

11:04

You were very concerned. I was, yeah.

11:06

About three days before the show. Yeah, I think I said to you, I don't want it to be bad. Yeah.

11:11

He's like, I don't know if I want to watch it. I know what you mean.

11:13

And, it has exceeded expectations.

11:16

It's so. Good. I've not. And I don't think you have to be a fan of the.

11:20

I don't think you have to be a preexisting fan of the show.

11:23

He did that on camera?

11:25

Yeah. I was having late lunch, early dinner

11:28

with a friend yesterday who watched the whole series and liked it and has never once played the game.

11:32

So I go into my cabinet. I said, you have a PlayStation four, Garcia said.

11:35

Ego is for that form PlayStation four.

11:37

He's going to have the best. And I just gave him the disc.

11:39

I said, that's. The best time. Oh yeah. I said, you can watch the TV show

11:43

without watching, without playing any of the games and be perfectly fine.

11:46

I think if you've played the games, you need to watch the show because there is some Laudrup.

11:51

yeah. Just blew me away.

11:53

But you don't need to have played the games. No, definitely.

11:56

If you watch it, you definitely will play the games.

11:58

I have seen some criticism online picking apart

12:00

like some lore elements in the show that I just think wasn't really necessary.

12:04

I saw a very long and frankly, well-written but

12:08

not well decided one star review where they talked

12:11

about a few elements in the show. Like,

12:13

I just was like, oh, he was like, oh yeah, you guys are not in California. It's like,

12:18

that is not even splitting hairs. That is it completely irrelevant information.

12:22

It's also set lighter than any of the games.

12:24

Yes, exactly. Gotten there. And one of the things was, isn't the.

12:28

Game guide literally on the new California Republic flag?

12:31

No, that's a two headed bear. Yeah. It's not a yeah guy.

12:34

Isn't it? Yeah. Is it a spoiler if I talk about the dog in the TV show?

12:39

Yeah, a little bit, because it's like a narrative aspect.

12:43

I'm just going to say that someone tried to hocking the dog in the TV show to the dog in fallout four.

12:48

Not the same. Dog. They're not the same dog. Definitely not the same dog.

12:50

He called it by the same name, but it's not the same dog.

12:54

Definitely not the same dog. He's the guy was like, oh, the dog is a malinois,

12:58

and in the game he's a German shepherd.

13:01

It's not the same dog. It's not in the same place.

13:04

It's not at the same time. It's not the same dog.

13:07

Was it 13 years? You, Bill, and it's not the same thing?

13:11

yeah. And it's the different side of the country. Yeah, yeah.

13:15

Because for set in Boston East coast.

13:18

Yes. North east. Very, very into the weeds of a show.

13:22

The people may not have watched, but you should.

13:24

You should thank the don't have the fact the.

13:27

Three of us have downloaded the same games to play again.

13:30

Correct. Don't get hung up on the fact that it's based on a game.

13:35

Just watch it. Just watch. It's a very good TV shows. And just.

13:37

Good and just enjoy it. Just let things be fun.

13:40

Chicago's people of the world just let things be fun.

13:43

I'm sick of seeing people. I'm looking right at the camera now.

13:45

I'm sick of saying I want to slow pan, turn this a slow zoom.

13:49

People just go into things expecting it to be something else. I'm like, all was not as good as this.

13:53

Just enjoy it. Just watch something. Embrace it, have fun.

13:57

It's also come. I agree with that sentiment so much, but

14:00

it has come at a time for me, the show where I'm

14:03

I'm kind of slipping back into a bit of a

14:06

I'm interested in like nuke nuclear stuff again.

14:10

I've been I watched, the bombing, the

14:13

Cold War, the Turning Point series on Netflix.

14:16

Wow. I'm rereading a book on the American, nuclear arsenal.

14:21

What? Oh, good.

14:23

The book is called Command and Control, and it's written by

14:27

Eric Schlosser.

14:29

Well, these both can help me get. Denver Broncos.

14:33

Iron with these newfound knowledge. And, Sean, with these, Many, many tabs.

14:38

Many times, many tabs.

14:40

One, we haven't. Even gotten into the story yet.

14:44

I have five tabs open, real.

14:46

World nuclear weapons.

14:48

Are we going to talk about SAC?

14:52

Trade strategic arms control. It's just got the best acronym.

14:55

Secondary.

14:57

Who wants to give me a quick rundown on what a nuclear weapon is?

15:02

The Big Daddy bomb.

15:07

It uses nuclear fusion or fission

15:10

to generate energy, which is explosively released.

15:15

And nuclear weapon is an explosive device that derives its destructive

15:18

force from nuclear reactions, either from fission

15:21

or a combination of efficient and fusion reactions,

15:24

which is a thermonuclear bomb producing a nuclear explosion.

15:27

Both bomb types release large quantities of energy

15:30

from relatively small amounts of matter.

15:33

the first test of not important.

15:37

I just wanted that. Types. Fission fusion definition.

15:40

All splitting or fuzing atoms.

15:42

Fission weapons. All existing nuclear weapons derive

15:45

some of their explosive energy from nuclear fission reactions.

15:48

Weapons whose explosive output is exclusively from fission reactions are commonly referred

15:53

to as atomic bombs or bombs or atom bombs, long been noted

15:57

as something of a misnomer, as our energy actually comes

15:59

from the nucleus of the atom, just as it does in fusion weapons.

16:04

In fission weapons, a mass of a fissile material, enriched uranium or plutonium,

16:09

is forced into super criticality, allowing an exponential growth

16:14

of nuclear chain reactions, either by shooting one piece

16:17

of subcritical material into another,

16:19

or by compression of the subcritical sphere.

16:22

Oscillatory fission material. I need to finish.

16:25

Thank you actually, and then speed it up and cut it.

16:27

Make me sound like a chipmunk using

16:30

oh by compression of a subcritical sphere, a cylinder of material

16:32

using chemically fueled explosive lenses. The latter part of the implosion method is more sophisticated,

16:36

more efficient, smaller, less massive, and requiring

16:38

less of an expensive fission fuel than the former fusion.

16:43

The other basic carbon produced a large proportion of existing

16:45

nuclear fission reaction. Such fusion weapons are generally referred to as having nuclear weapons,

16:49

or more colloquially, as hydrogen bombs, abbreviated as H-Bombs, and they rely on fusion

16:52

reactions between isotopes of hydrogen, deuterium, well, deuterium, or tritium.

16:57

All such weapons drive a significant portion of the energy from fission reaction

17:00

statistics used to trigger fusion reactions, and fusion

17:02

reactions can themselves trigger additional fission reactions.

17:06

Thank you on the six countries. Yep, I'm good.

17:10

I'm going to get to the countries. So how about the total number

17:13

of nuclear warheads in the world today?

17:15

Guesses two. Not bad because you've probably got two.

17:18

That's probably. Going to. Incorrect. 4003.

17:21

Correct 28,000. Incorrect. Oh.

17:25

Individual 13,080 warheads are currently in the world.

17:30

This is drastically lower than the 40 odd years ago

17:33

during the Cold War peak, which was about 70,000 warheads,

17:37

which were all nearly split between the US and the Soviet Union.

17:41

One of my favorite Cold War stories is when the US finally

17:43

managed to get, like, accurate data on the Soviets

17:49

and how many missiles they had.

17:51

They had thought that they were in a deficit

17:54

of like the missile gap is something here all the time.

17:56

It's like the deficit between the US and Soviets.

17:59

And they found out they actually had like four times more than the Soviets.

18:02

And that was like. Oh, whoops.

18:05

We could spend a lot of money on this.

18:09

there was a treaty called

18:13

start two that I add an extra to you now.

18:16

I think it's starting anyway.

18:18

It limits both the US and Russia to only having a maximum

18:21

of 1550 of these warheads actively deployed.

18:25

We'll quickly go through a rundown of countries and their stockpiles.

18:28

Russia has the most, with 6257

18:32

total and 1458 deployed.

18:36

The US is next, with a total of 505,550

18:41

and 1389 deployed.

18:44

The rest of the countries have not deployed. So all these numbers, just how many they have?

18:48

China has 350, France is 290, UK 225.

18:52

Pakistan 165, India 156,

18:56

Israel 90 and North Korea 50.

18:59

there's a breakdown of all nuclear weapons in the world.

19:02

Only twice has nuclear weapons been used during war.

19:07

and then that wasn't a test. And I don't really think I need to explain when that was.

19:12

but if you don't know, it was World War Two.

19:16

Russia. I don't think I need to explain it. It was in, Nagasaki.

19:19

42. Yeah, it was 42, 45.

19:22

44, oh five.

19:25

One more, one more atom of information.

19:29

That's one. Okay, before we get into the meat

19:31

and potatoes of this fortnight style.

19:34

But I like that something.

19:36

Yeah. It is start to. By the way, strategic.

19:39

Production. Treaty two bilateral treaty

19:42

between the United States and Russia on the reduction

19:44

and limitation of strategic. Was that actually started by the Soviet Union?

19:48

I. Believe it was. It was signed by US President George H.W.

19:51

Bush and resident Persian President Boris Yeltsin,

19:55

ratified by the US Senate in 1996 with a vote of 87

19:58

for Russia, ratified still on the 14th of April 2000,

20:01

making it conditional on preserving their.

20:04

Okay, so yeah.

20:08

it actually never went into effect.

20:10

Oh. Well, they're adhering to it.

20:14

So before we get into the lost tiles, I'm going to talk about

20:18

the most powerful nuclear, thermonuclear bomb ever created.

20:22

SA bomba. The sa bomba.

20:25

Let's dig into some stats of a stick name.

20:29

because, you know, I love some stats.

20:32

Bomb. Emperor of bombs. Wow.

20:36

You were on that. On that straight away.

20:39

Chase, let's dig. Into this.

20:41

You know, that was coming up. Nah. Wow.

20:44

Because, you know, I love me some stats.

20:46

I just love some stats. The bomb weighed 27 tons, light bomb,

20:52

and was eight meters long by 21m wide.

20:55

It was so large that the plane carrying it had to have its bomb

20:59

bay doors and fuselage fuel tanks removed.

21:02

Attached to the bomb was an 800 kilogram parachute.

21:07

That's not 800 kilo parachute. Yeah, that's not how much it can

21:12

parachute. That is the weight of the parachute.

21:14

It's a lot of fabric. It's many parachute.

21:17

When the canopy was opened, it had an area of

21:21

1600 square meters.

21:24

400 by 416 hundred square meters.

21:26

That's. Yeah. I feel like you know, this information.

21:29

Yeah. So it was meant to slow the bomb

21:33

down enough to let the release and the observer planes

21:38

not give them enough time to fly about 45km away,

21:42

which in turn gave them about a 50% survival rate.

21:46

50%, 50. Percent, the own counter number to 50%.

21:50

Okay. That was that was the best option.

21:53

There wasn't just like

21:56

whatever they like doing this time.

22:00

Yeah. So we detonated 4.5km above the ground at 1132

22:04

a local time on October 30th, 1961.

22:09

So they thought the fireball would reach the ground, but

22:11

the bombs bomb's own shockwave bouncing off the ground.

22:14

Stop that from happening. Gee. So,

22:19

This is a big boy. oh. It's an uncomfortably big bomb.

22:23

The fireball, though, was eight kilometers wide

22:26

and nearly reached the altitude of the released planes, which was 10.5km.

22:31

It could be seen from 1000km away.

22:34

The mushroom cloud got to 67km high, which is eight times

22:39

the height of Mount Everest, and had a peak width of 97km.

22:44

That it's too big.

22:48

That's so big.

22:50

This lodge is big.

22:52

So that height, the actual top

22:54

of the mushroom cloud, got to the stratosphere.

22:57

Didn't quite get to the, what was the next one?

23:00

The sphere of the mesosphere. Mesosphere.

23:02

So the cloud was in outer space,

23:06

not out of space, but the cloud got up to space. Yeah.

23:09

That's crazy. The they didn't need that.

23:13

The bomb yield was projected at 58 megatons, but

23:16

it was actually a couple years later reduced to 50 megaton. Oh,

23:22

they lost eight megatons.

23:24

To many tons. 50 megatons is what, 50,000.

23:29

I don't know. Well, the population in megaton is about.

23:34

50,000 tons of TNT.

23:38

For that plug. I think it's 50 million.

23:40

Right? Right. So 50 million. Kilo is a thousand. Yeah.

23:44

So it's equal to 50 million tons of TNT.

23:49

that's so much. Too much. Up until then, the largest

23:52

nuclear explosion was 15 megatons.

23:54

And since I believe the largest has been 25.

23:58

So of all the nukes ever.

24:01

For this thing is twice as big as the second place.

24:06

No, that was my third. You want to counter? That's just for cheesy.

24:10

Cause I was saving even the folks

24:13

on Facebook. To read. A few more facts.

24:17

The seismic wave in the Earth's crust,

24:19

as well as the shockwave circled the Earth three times.

24:23

That's half the time less than the Krakatoa explosion.

24:26

Oh, really? It is. Yeah. Wow. That's that's that's pretty cool.

24:31

Something natural is as big, like,

24:33

equal to 50 megatons pretty much.

24:35

As Krakatoa was huge. That's the biggest explosion

24:38

that really they've had to deal with. It's huge. Yeah.

24:40

I think people in Darwin were like.

24:43

Jeez, that was loud.

24:45

And that's like hundreds of kilometers away.

24:47

Yeah. Of Krakatoa.

24:49

Yeah. All's in 1883.

24:51

So there's a good question about whether anybody.

24:54

Darwin even existed. Did they even know what was going on then?

24:57

So I think with this, Bomba,

24:59

I think there was an observation,

25:01

post in New Zealand that actually recorded

25:03

barometric pressure rises three times.

25:06

So I kind of measured it. That is a lot in Wellington.

25:11

there was a fishing village

25:14

55km away called Savini.

25:18

all buildings, they were destroyed. Is in souvenir map and Pubg.

25:22

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

25:25

Is that the place? It's a. Small island.

25:29

And yes, over there is in,

25:33

the map. There you go.

25:36

Anyway. Go on 70, 50 guys away. Yeah.

25:39

All the buildings were destroyed. there was another place,

25:43

like, it's hundreds of kilometers away. 200km. Why can I guess,

25:48

wooden buildings destroyed?

25:50

stone and brick buildings had their roofs,

25:53

windows and doors ripped off. That is exactly what I got right there.

25:56

Nailed it. and the radio communication was interrupted for one hour.

26:01

So there was just that. That much electromagnetic interference in the atmosphere.

26:05

Just. That's scary.

26:09

This is scary to, Go.

26:11

100km away. The explosion would cause third degree burns.

26:15

Sorry. 100 K's away.

26:17

Yeah, that's the Gold Coast from here.

26:20

That's the Tweed from here. Yeah. So the sunny coast from here.

26:24

Did you imagine an explosion there

26:26

causing third degree burns here? Third degree. But.

26:31

Like, I'm actually thinking about the scale of that.

26:33

That's. Sorry. Big.

26:35

Oh. That's ridiculous. Like, you just can't fathom.

26:39

That's scary.

26:41

Okay, so what about the release and observation points?

26:45

Oh, yeah. 50% bomb. Right, guys?

26:48

The shockwave did catch up to them.

26:50

originally, like I said, they were meant to be 45 K's away.

26:53

When the detonation happened, they were only 39.5.

26:57

Oh, just. So. But the shockwave

26:59

caught up to them when they were at 115km away from ground zero, because

27:03

both moving in the same direction. Yeah,

27:05

the shockwave caused the planes to drop one kilometer.

27:09

Oh, boy. They started at ten and a half. So I'm assuming that once

27:12

they got the planes back and the controller at nine K's,

27:16

and they were able to land safely.

27:20

Oh, that freaks me out. So with weapons of this kind of power, you'd be.

27:39

They'd be super careful, right? You would want to think so. Yeah.

27:43

So between 1950 and 1980, there have been 32 documented

27:47

nuclear weapon accidents that involve the unexpected accidental launching, firing,

27:53

detonating, theft, or loss of the weapon.

27:56

To date, the US has lost six nuclear weapons

28:00

that have not been recovered.

28:02

Are they the only ones to lose them?

28:05

no. There are three.

28:07

I believe the Soviets have lost some,

28:09

but I pretty much only cover. And you said that was until 1980. Yeah.

28:13

So there's a 30 year gap. There was 32 of these events.

28:16

Has there been any lost since then?

28:19

not lost, but there have been incidents.

28:24

so it happens so often. There's actual term for it. Yeah.

28:29

the term is a broken arrow event.

28:33

I don't like that. The oldest known missing weapon is from February 13th, 1950.

28:39

That's 74 years.

28:41

And it is most likely not going to be found anytime soon.

28:45

1950. Yeah. So they use nuclear weapons just five years before

28:49

for the first time, and they already losing them. I don't know what.

28:52

See they've lost one that that's never been recovered

28:54

five years after the crash. I don't like that.

28:57

So what happened in this one? A B 36, was enroute from Edelsten

29:03

Airbase to Carson Airbase on a simulated combat mission.

29:07

And after six hours, the flight started having mechanical issues

29:10

and had to shut down three engines

29:13

out of a total of four engines. Not great.

29:15

Not wanting to crash with a nuclear weapon on board,

29:18

they ditched the 30 kiloton mark for Fat Bomb

29:22

Fatman Bomb into the best bomb from the 30 kiloton Mark four.

29:27

Fatman bomb in the Pacific Ocean,

29:30

30 kiloton yes, a little bit smaller than the SA Bomba.

29:35

Yeah, but I mean, it's still 30 kilo tons of destruction.

29:38

It's still a large explosion. Yes, much more than what they used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

29:43

what were those sizes? It twice as big as those ones.

29:46

What were the. Yeah, I think that would air.

29:49

Well, Nagasaki and that weren't as big as Castle Bravo.

29:55

yeah. So. And I remember saying to my.

29:57

Little boy. Fat man, like, the Hiroshima

30:02

one was fat man, and Nagasaki was little boy.

30:05

Little boy was approximately 15 kilo tons.

30:08

And that was the big one, wasn't it?

30:10

That was this small one you just said, little boy.

30:13

Yeah, I said little boy. Ham was this kind of explosion.

30:15

Was it that the bigger bomb like physically?

30:17

Yeah, I think so. Anyway, this one is twice the size and,

30:23

explosive yielded.

30:25

So there was a bright flash reported on impact

30:28

and a shockwave in. But it was only the weapons. High explosive material.

30:31

It detonated. The bomb didn't contain the plutonium core

30:35

necessary for nuclear detonation,

30:37

but still contained a substantial amount of uranium.

30:41

That makes me angry. It was a training mission.

30:44

Why were they taking not even live nuclear weapon?

30:49

Why were they taking anything with radioactivity in it?

30:51

It doesn't make any sense to me today.

30:56

So, something you'd like to sign? Sure not.

30:59

you want to unpack

31:02

Wicker? Yeah. What are you talking about? We haven't had a. We haven't any issues.

31:05

Oh, no, I, I definitely haven't

31:08

taken off my jumper and turned my headphones around.

31:11

It's a bit warm in here, actually.

31:15

Are we moving on to the next. Yeah. Let's move on to Paris.

31:18

July 1957.

31:20

An American see one, two, four was flying to Europe

31:24

and was carrying three

31:26

nuclear weapons and one nuke. The cool.

31:29

And guess what? During the flight, developed

31:32

a series of engine problems and were forced to turn back

31:36

to try and make it back to safety. The plane had to lose weight.

31:39

So if you're saying the end of. Jenny. Craig,

31:42

if you're saying the end of. The summer.

31:46

Yeah. That was episode ten.

31:51

My favorite underappreciated joke.

31:53

Anyone that didn't hear it, I'm not happy with you.

31:55

We referenced the same thing like Pearl Harbor.

31:57

Yeah, getting the bomb is light enough to be able to take off from it. Yeah.

32:00

So non-essential equipment went first, then excess fuel.

32:05

but the plane was still losing altitude,

32:08

and with the plane still losing heart, the decision was made to ditch the atomic payload.

32:13

And about 160km off the coast of new Jersey.

32:15

It's what I do every morning. Rush after coffee. I did it.

32:20

The C, c one, two, four and crew made a safe landing

32:24

at an Atlantic airport with one weapon

32:27

remaining on board and a nuclear and the nuclear option,

32:30

as well as the two weapons they ditched,

32:34

are still missing somewhere off the new Jersey coastline.

32:37

I mean, it would be like 50 years ago, like 70 years ago now, almost.

32:42

Yeah, this. Is kind of scary. They're still out there.

32:44

They're still out there. How are you going to find them?

32:47

I did read that. They were not causing like damage to the environment.

32:54

Oh, I know that. Well, they're not leaking radiation

32:57

because that's how they find.

32:59

yeah, right. That's how they find. The ones that they have found is they trace the radiation.

33:04

Yeah. Okay. The Tybee incident.

33:08

Now, the most depressing thing about this Torbay incident thing.

33:11

What I have

33:14

just get your belly button.

33:16

I have so many motherfucking tabs open.

33:22

And of all the incidents so far, I haven't even gotten those ones open.

33:26

I've still got all these other tabs of all these other incidences opened,

33:29

and now we've finally reached one that I. Have that's like, it should not be.

33:33

It should not be the case that they have these weapons that can destroy CDs and where like.

33:39

Which, which one is it?

33:42

Which of the. How many times have you got open?

33:45

Is it like 8 or 10? And we're not. One, two,

33:48

three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten times.

33:53

You see like, is it one of those you like? No.

33:57

Once we finish our I'll get my history up and I'll go to one of the reference pages

34:00

I was using, and I'll just scroll through for you so you can just see.

34:03

Not good. I'm not right. It is.

34:06

So the Tybee incident, it took

34:08

place on February 5th, 1958.

34:12

There was a midair collision between an F-86 fighter.

34:15

B 47 bomber.

34:17

Come on. The bomber was carrying a mach 15 nuclear bomb.

34:21

A bomb capable of a 1.69.

34:25

Nice. Megaton yield. the bomb was jettisoned

34:30

into the waters off Tybee Island near Savannah, Georgia.

34:34

It has never been found, but in 2004,

34:38

it was claimed that the resting spot had been narrowed down to the size of a football field.

34:42

Oh, cool. How have they not found it?

34:44

I don't know, I keep looking.

34:47

Was there anything else you wanted to add to that, Sean? Because that's pretty much all I thought was interesting.

34:55

This is a really dramatic breath

34:59

I've got. I've got nuclear fatigue.

35:01

It's really making me realize how how likely the fallout world

35:06

is, Well, it was well, is it could still happen.

35:10

Okay. So this is the one I think is probably the worst.

35:14

Okay. It is.

35:17

Yeah. No, it's it's got an unrecovered tech part of it.

35:20

In the early morning of January 24th, 1961.

35:23

It started the years not a great time for nuclear weapons.

35:25

It's not a B-52 Stratofortress was flying over

35:29

Goldsboro, North Carolina, on an insurance policy.

35:33

Patrol. Meaning in case of surprise nuclear attack from the Soviets,

35:37

they were ready to counter attack

35:40

during routine mid-air refueling. The refuel reply notified the B-52 crew

35:44

that there was a fuel leak and aborted the refueling.

35:48

There was a major structural failing beginning in the right

35:51

wing of the B-52. Oh boy.

35:54

The B-52 was ordered to return to base, but on the approach,

35:58

and the descent, the pilots lost control of the plane

36:01

and bailed out. Shortly after the crew abandoned the plane,

36:05

it began to break up while still in the air,

36:08

and the two nuclear weapons it was carrying separated from the aircraft

36:12

with one of the bombs safely parachuting to the ground,

36:15

even getting snagged on a tree. With military recovery crews finding it quickly.

36:20

Rocket. It's real cute, and there.

36:23

Was a picture of it. As cute little parachutes. Oh really?

36:26

There's a picture. Of just nice little Mark 39 nuclear weapon.

36:29

Just. I didn't actually just just chilling.

36:32

Oh, look at it. Just hanging out, did I?

36:35

I don't think I said how big an explosion the marketing run is.

36:38

Well, at the end of the story, we'll give it. Give it to me.

36:40

Yeah. An actual Mach 39 on that Mach 39.

36:44

Just go with that one. Yeah. Anyway, the other.

36:49

Yeah. Were they both Mach 13 was.

36:52

Let's say they were. Yeah. The other Mach 39.

36:56

Question. Mark. The, parachute failed, causing it

36:59

to slam into the swampy, muddy field.

37:03

And it took about a week to dig up all the parts

37:06

as it broke up when it impacted the ground.

37:09

Oh, on studying the bomb,

37:12

six out of seven automatic activation sequences,

37:16

the activations six out of the seven

37:19

automatic activation sequence steps had been completed.

37:24

Meaning, oh. Very close to detonating.

37:27

Oh. So it was like one thing away.

37:31

Only one trigger stop the blast.

37:34

And that was a switch that was set to,

37:36

yeah, it still failed to explode.

37:40

Oh, boy. What was the source of this bomb?

37:42

What's the size of this?

37:44

What yields this bomb? 30. I'm kidding.

37:47

It's 3.8 kilotons megatons, 3.8 and eight.

37:50

Point eight megaton megatons. That's enough to wipe out a city.

37:53

If a thermonuclear explosion occurred at 3.8 megatons

37:58

in North Carolina. Yeah.

38:00

Lethal fallout could have been deposited over

38:03

Washington, Baltimore, Philly, and as far north

38:06

as New York City. Oh, man. Not.

38:10

Is that like 25% of the US population or something?

38:13

Quebec. Yeah. Oh, not all of this bomb was recovered.

38:18

Yeah. This is the one I was thinking of. The secondary coal remains buried in the earth?

38:23

Yeah, possibly up to 60m deep.

38:26

Yeah. I've seen pictures of the field. There's like a bit.

38:29

They like, fenced off, like, don't ever go in here.

38:33

It's believed this core is made up mostly of non weapon

38:37

grade uranium. 238 and weapons grade uranium 235.

38:43

The US Army would purchase a circular piece of rain with

38:47

this loss. Component is not allowing buildings to be built.

38:52

Yeah, but farming is allowed around it.

38:56

Yeah. Digging permits are also required in this area, so.

39:01

Yeah, could this almost resulted in

39:05

a 3.8 megaton blast in North Carolina?

39:09

Oh, that's a lot. The last story I want to cover is the Palomares incident

39:15

from January 17th, 1966.

39:18

We want to ensure. I have 68 open, which is.

39:24

The Broken Arrow. Bingo.

39:26

And he has only one once.

39:29

That's sign again being transported by plane.

39:33

There was a mid-air incident. Oh, why?

39:35

A B-52 bomber collided with a KC 135 refueling

39:39

tanker during mid-air refueling.

39:42

The tanker was destroyed and killed all on board.

39:45

After its fuel load ignited,

39:47

the bomber broke up, the bomber broke apart, and three

39:50

of its seven crew also unfortunately perished.

39:53

At the time, the bomber was carrying four B

39:56

28 mock 28 hydrogen bombs.

39:59

They had a blast field and I don't know why it's this, but this is the blast field.

40:04

What Google said between 70 kilotons and 1.45 megatons.

40:09

Oh bit of a difference there. But yeah, it's almost double.

40:14

Double was it? Yeah. It's 70 kilo tons and 1.45 megaton.

40:18

Oh yeah. Yeah. That's over.

40:20

All of the bombs fell to the surface,

40:22

two of which had the non-nuclear explosive components

40:25

explode on impact, which contaminated a two square kilometer near

40:30

the fishing village of Palomares with plutonium.

40:35

one of the bombs was recovered intact, embedded in a riverbed.

40:38

And the fourth, only the parachute tail plate

40:41

was recovered. Only the tail only. At the time.

40:45

Oh. It's believe it is believed

40:48

that the parachute deployed and it was blown out to sea.

40:52

A US naval fleet was assembled to search for the missing bomb,

40:55

and it included 29 ships as well as on one day,

41:00

the aircraft carrier US Forrestal and members

41:04

of the sixth fleet anchored at Palomares for half a day.

41:08

80 days after the crash, the bomb was discovered.

41:13

It sat in an unexplored section of the Rio Aluminum

41:17

Mendoza Canyon on a 70

41:20

degree slope at a depth of 780m.

41:23

During the first recovery attempt,

41:25

the bomb was being brought to the surface, but was dropped.

41:30

One of the lifting cables on the USS hoist,

41:33

appropriate name for that chair, snapped

41:36

and caused the pipe to swing across the deck.

41:39

Carl Brashear, a U.S. diver, a US Navy diver.

41:42

Sorry data to cross to push a shipmate out of danger.

41:46

Unfortunately, the object struck Carl's left leg just below

41:50

the knee, nearly tugging it clean off.

41:53

The impact was so forceful it lifted him into the air,

41:55

nearly knocking him overboard, but he landed back on the deck

41:59

and was airlifted to USAF hospital at Wise.

42:03

But an air base in Germany USAF, UA, USAF.

42:08

Is off, but the. USS.

42:12

Eventually, due to infection and persistent necrosis,

42:15

his lower left leg was amputated.

42:17

He remained in the Navy during his recovery

42:20

and was assigned to a diving school about two years later,

42:23

he died after a long struggle, become the first amputee to be recertified

42:28

as a US Navy diver, and in 1970

42:31

he possibly became the first African American master diver

42:35

and served another nine years. I say possibly because there's some conjecture between

42:40

one other boy. Can him. He was the first African-American master diver.

42:44

But yeah, I'm just including this story because it was a lost nick,

42:48

and this guy's had his leg taken off and was the first amputee to be recertified,

42:53

which was pretty cool. Kyle was motivated by his beliefs.

42:57

and he's quoted in saying, it's not a thing to get knocked down.

43:00

It's a sim to stadium.

43:02

For his actions on the US hoist, he did receive a Navy

43:05

and Marine Corps Medal citation, and in 2000 was presented

43:10

with Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service

43:13

for his 42 years of both military and federal civil

43:16

civilian service. It was presented to him by Cuba Gooding Jr,

43:21

who portrayed Carl in the 2000 film Men of Honor.

43:24

Cool. Back to really cool. Yeah, back to the drop. Nick.

43:28

It was located again two weeks later

43:31

and it had sunk back down, this time to a depth of 880m.

43:35

During the second recovery, an unmanned torpedo recovery

43:39

vehicle, curve one became entangled in the weapons parachute,

43:43

and both the unmanned submersible and the bomb were brought to 30m below the surface,

43:47

so Dobbins could untangle them

43:50

just. As seems like a it's like a comedy show.

43:54

Yeah, just one after the other things happening.

43:56

Oh are all tied up like it.

43:59

It was eventually brought back to the US. This one isn't still missing.

44:03

just thought I'd include it because of all the times it was dropped.

44:06

Just a silly like. Whoops, whoops.

44:09

The Soviets, as you was before, lost quite a few nuclear submarines.

44:13

Yeah. Both nuclear powered and had nuclear weapons on board.

44:17

The Kursk is probably like the most famous one. Yep.

44:20

I saw stories of, there was one in the late 60s.

44:24

One in the 70s and two in the 80s.

44:26

Yeah, I know, accidents happen.

44:28

And in in the 50 to 80s,

44:31

we heard earlier that way, more nukes

44:33

floating around out there than there on there.

44:35

Yeah. Well, I just find it amazing that there's so many stories of stuff

44:38

going wrong with these things that have the potential to cause

44:41

so much damage. So scary.

44:44

oh. So anyway, I watch Oppenheimer. Oh, for real robots. Yeah. What's fallout?

44:48

And realize how close we got to that? Yeah, that North Korea's any.

44:51

Of those ones.

44:53

Like, anything that goes wrong could trigger

44:57

a war like that bomb goes off in nobody long along.

45:00

Yeah, if that. Goes off, somebody doesn't know that that's.

45:03

A that's. Accident. Fires one off to the Russians.

45:06

The Russians fire one back at us and it's on.

45:09

Do I know it's extra funny about the 1966,

45:13

the 1966 incident? What?

45:15

Which one was that? The 1966 Palomares.

45:19

Oh, yes. Yes, yes. The guy that saw it into the water.

45:24

I did leave a bit. Yeah.

45:27

Francisco Simo or it's popularly known since as Parker Island, Alabama.

45:33

Or bomb. Parker or bomb Frankie witnessed the bomb

45:36

entering the water at a certain location.

45:38

Simo also was hired by the U.S. Air Force to assist in the search for the operation.

45:43

So the continuing search goes on.

45:45

Once the bomb was located, Simo or it's appeared at the United States District Court

45:50

for the Southern District of New York with his lawyer, Herbert Brownell,

45:54

former Attorney General of the United States under President Dwight

45:56

Eisenhower, claiming salvage rights.

45:59

Oh, yeah. On the recovered bomb. Wow.

46:03

According to Doctor Craven, it is customary maritime law

46:06

that the person who identifies the location

46:08

of a ship to be salvaged has the right to salvage award.

46:11

If the identified version leads to successful recovery,

46:14

the amount is nominal, usually 1 to 2%,

46:17

sometimes a bit more of the intrinsic value

46:19

to the owner of the thing selves. But the thing South of Palomares was a thermonuclear bomb,

46:24

the same bomb valued by no less an authority

46:27

than the Secretary of Defense, a $2 billion

46:30

h percent of which is 20 million. Yeah.

46:33

The Air Force settled out of court for an undisclosed sum, and years later,

46:36

similar orders was heard to complain that the Americans had promised him

46:39

financial compensation but had not kept their promise.

46:42

Yeah. That figures. Yes. Yeah, I all that scary stuff. Boy.

46:48

I, I'm just trying to bring Iraq.

46:50

That was, scary stuff.

46:55

you don't know what. I don't know what to say after that, because I know a couple of those.

46:59

But it was every single one of them was like.

47:01

It was earth shaking. What was the one you were thinking of there?

47:04

Was those. Okay, well, I mean, one of the ones

47:07

was they lost it in the water and they just, like,

47:09

I don't know where it is now. That's. But you realize that was like half of them. Sorry.

47:14

You're going to hear from them. But just like. But the one in the field is the one

47:16

that's always struck out to me. Like they literally know where it is,

47:19

but they can't get it. So they like I just don't go there.

47:22

And you were unaware of how close it was to detonating?

47:24

Yeah, I did know that. I just there was another inciden

47:30

This is the page I was using. Broken arrow event. Yeah.

47:34

Let me scroll down.

47:37

Yeah. You could scroll.

47:41

Oh, that's too much. That's the 1950s. Now we're in the 60s.

47:45

And on this terrifying bus. The 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000.

47:49

I think it's time that we wrap up because I need to go hug the people I love.

47:54

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48:01

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48:04

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48:07

Let us know if you want to. Part two of this terrifying topic.

48:10

No. Yeah. No.

48:13

Anyway, we will be back in a fortnight.

48:15

It'll be my episodes time.

48:18

and I think it's a good one. I hope that it's,

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able to live up to this one, because it's always terrifying

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and very difficult to make for reasons that none of you will know. It's not in for.

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The spectacular the before.

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It's close to just spooktacular.

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it's not at all. Though. It's not at all important

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that I've turned my headphones around. I've taken my jumper off, and there's a GoPro in the

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middle of our test shot up. yeah, real adventure stuff this week.

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But, continuity reasons, though we haven't

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changed their beverages to make it look legitimate, but hopefully.

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More, professional. Next time. We'll see you. Then.

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See you next time. Bye.

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Whatever changes