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to the next level! Hey

2:06

guys, welcome to another episode of

2:08

Cheeky's in Chill. Thank

2:11

you brother, two times. So you

2:13

guys, if you don't know who my brother is, this

2:15

is Mikey, this is my little big brother, okay. Thank

2:18

you for coming to my podcast finally. What are you, you're gonna put it on

2:20

me? It is on me. Yes. But

2:22

you make it seem like I didn't want to be part

2:24

of it and then when I was on Janikka's you were

2:26

like all jelly belly. I was jelly belly. But the, your

2:29

requested subject is very important, yes. But I wasn't,

2:31

I'm still not ready. I guess I think we'll

2:33

talk about my reasoning behind all that stuff today.

2:35

Which I respect. But it's not cause I don't

2:38

fucking. I know you love me. If

2:40

we're, if we're, if we got pickles with each other, that's not

2:42

a bone to pick with each other. I

2:44

like pickles better. I ain't got no beer for them. I

2:46

have a pickle with you. You have a pickle with me.

2:48

Yeah. What's a pickle? This sign.

2:51

Oh. I got an Etsy dude. It's

2:53

okay, it's cute. Yeah. I'm sure

2:55

they got it here quick. I'm, Janikka, she waited a year.

2:57

So talking about Janikka, because okay, guys, Janikka has

2:59

been on the podcast. Jackie has been on the

3:02

podcast. And Mikey, what about John? John

3:04

has been here a couple of times as well. And

3:07

talking about Janikka, look at his sweater, you

3:09

guys. Okay. It's over comfort.

3:11

Look at him. He comes to my podcast wearing

3:13

his favorite sisters because Janikka is his favorite sister.

3:16

Yes or no. Don't lie. I don't

3:18

have a favorite. She's my only little sister. Okay.

3:21

That's true. He has two big sisters. That

3:23

makes sense. Okay. Janikka

3:25

is awesome. She's the best. She's

3:28

very decent. And I'm not sure. Yeah. Everything

3:31

else has paint on her right now. The color coordination. I like it.

3:34

She's doing laundry every week now though. Oh, nice. I'm

3:36

so proud of you. So are you separating the

3:38

whites? Yeah, but I don't have

3:40

very much whites. Okay. Okay. Let

3:43

me separate the whites. Yeah, no, I do. I

3:45

separate them. I even started to use bleach, but like,

3:47

you know what I mean? I'm a black shirt kind

3:50

of guy. Yeah, you are. I don't have

3:52

to mess you for white shirts. Yeah. Because

3:54

we always have paint on everything. Talking about paint. We got

3:56

to let them know what you're all about. Okay. Mikey

3:59

has his own company. called Boss Graphics

4:01

and my bigger

4:03

LLC or is Moonlight

4:05

Signco and that's my first company and

4:07

absorbed the company that I've been working

4:09

at for a while now and it's

4:12

going really well. It's been this past year has been

4:14

a big challenge and thank you

4:16

for being there. I always had a view. I

4:19

think there's no

4:21

such thing as a dumb question but there is a

4:23

dumb question and I'm so glad that I can call

4:25

you and I don't ever have to feel like bad

4:28

about asking a stupid question because you live through

4:30

most things or at least have some level of

4:32

experience especially when it comes to business. So I

4:34

have you as a lifeline and I know like

4:37

we don't see each other as much as we'd

4:39

like but you're such a big part of you

4:41

know what I'm doing now and so

4:43

thank you for that. Oh you're welcome brother. Oh my god

4:46

dude we're about I think we're gonna cry on the couch.

4:48

Oh but I was telling him what to do yeah so

4:50

a muralist and a sign painter and just a guy just

4:54

trying to get better at his art. Yeah and you're doing great

4:56

because that's what he was saying. The piccolo he had

4:58

a pic with me is the fact that he didn't

5:00

make my sign. I didn't ask him to make my

5:02

sign because he made Jennica's sign for her podcast Over

5:05

Comfort and that's why he's like what

5:07

the heck but it's for Messi. I mean I didn't

5:09

have anyone else do it. No you're about this and

5:11

I would have lagged a little bit but it's okay

5:13

I have ideas now so next season it might look

5:15

a little different. Oh I love that okay you guys

5:18

heard it here so you guys he said it. I'm

5:20

a man of my word. Yeah he's a man of

5:22

his word and going back to his business because I

5:24

think mom would be very proud because

5:26

mom was all about like whatever

5:29

you're passionate about whatever that may be you freaking

5:32

do it and you do be the best at it. Mikey

5:35

is it okay if we talk about this about

5:37

your love for graffiti and how you would do

5:39

it illegally whatever you want to talk to me

5:41

about. Okay because he would freaking stress

5:43

me out because I was his supporter I was like

5:45

okay if this is what he likes to do I

5:47

don't necessarily agree 100% because it's like

5:50

you know he's doing this illegally and he

5:52

would hang you guys off of bridges and

5:54

shit doing graffiti and I'd be like

5:56

oh my he said oh I was hanging off that

5:58

freaking bridge I was like what But you would

6:00

imagine that like me hanging off, I'm not that

6:02

strong, okay? It's like there's a footing, it's a weird

6:05

space, I shouldn't be, I shouldn't have been there. But

6:07

it's dangerous. Are you gonna tell everybody that you used

6:09

to take me? Oh yeah, I used to take them.

6:11

A handful of times, Jackie was my, was my

6:13

ride or die partner in crime. She took me

6:16

bombing a lot. Like my first era of being

6:18

prolific had a lot to do with Jackie. Uh-huh.

6:20

But you took me too. So Jackie. So she

6:22

used to implicate in... We support each other. She

6:24

used to implicate in 15 year old crimes. Oh

6:27

shit, more than that, dude, I'm coming up on,

6:29

wow. Yeah, my brother, how old are you? Um,

6:32

30, gonna be 33. I'm just my Jesus here. Oh,

6:34

your Jesus here, I say. Dang, full, full.

6:36

I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, you're gonna resurrect

6:39

in a good way. Yeah, yeah, I was

6:41

being reborn. Yeah, reborn. But um,

6:43

so I love the fact that you did exactly what

6:45

mom wanted. That became and now

6:47

a business and you're a CEO and a business

6:49

owner and I know that that's... President, I

6:51

like president. President, okay. I don't know why. I

6:53

feel like CEO is like, anytime somebody like starts

6:56

their little like t-shirt company, or whatever, it's

6:58

like they want to throw CEO. I was like, president sounds better

7:00

for me. I don't know why. Yeah, I like that.

7:02

Yeah. Anyway, so... Mikey for president. Well, he

7:04

is a president. A-pero. Okay,

7:07

so what? I think she would be proud. I think

7:09

so. I just kind of

7:11

like my biggest like thing is she

7:14

didn't really get to see a better version of me

7:16

because I'm still not like the best

7:19

version of myself that I can be and that I'm striving

7:21

to be, but she didn't get to see me

7:23

like, okay, because it stressed her out

7:25

a lot too, you know? And she and like

7:27

to her credit, she never once

7:29

said like, I remember the day that

7:32

she like first confronted me about it and

7:34

like, you know, like she was never like, don't

7:36

do that, you know, like, or like

7:38

at least don't do it this way, do it the

7:40

right way. Of course, I have to do it my

7:42

own way, but so she was stressed out and

7:45

I didn't believe I was going to turn it into anything

7:47

for a long time because that wasn't really the point of

7:49

it. Yeah. It was kind of more of a to develop

7:51

a sense of identity. And that's

7:54

kind of, it's led

7:56

through a lot of things for good or bad,

7:58

like to who I am now. And

8:01

it's been part of my journey. So I'm like super grateful

8:03

for it, but I think I Am

8:06

I be past it? Yeah, like mentally.

8:08

Yeah, I mean right now anyways I

8:10

don't like I don't have the same love for

8:12

it and I'm like, I'm okay I'm going

8:14

through a part of my life where things are You

8:18

know, it's okay to accept that things come to an end

8:20

and things don't have to be the same way forever And

8:23

even if it's something that you feel like well,

8:25

this is all I've ever known like and that's it's

8:27

really hard Like I almost want to cry right now

8:29

just because it's all I've known and like for so

8:31

many years I've Only part of

8:33

your life. Yeah, I've only associated with certain

8:36

type of people and Now

8:38

that I'm trying to live my life on the right path

8:40

I realized they haven't always been the best people a lot

8:42

of you know, a lot of my friends guys They're

8:45

great guys and there's a few gems in there that

8:47

are really guys that are really pushing themselves forward but

8:49

for the most part it's like Holding

8:52

me back and now I'm at a point where it's

8:54

like it's it's it's it's do or die time right

8:56

now With you know with the

8:58

company and like really better in myself for

9:00

focus and if yeah And it is just

9:02

not serving me anymore and it's hard to

9:04

say you know, cuz I

9:06

don't you know me have like I'm like I Like

9:11

the artistic part of graffiti like oh, it's an

9:14

awesome mural Look at all the colors and all that

9:16

but I like the illegal aspect of it in

9:18

the Russia I'm the fucking being scared shitless like

9:20

I shouldn't be doing this I shouldn't be fucking

9:22

over here off of the side of the freeway

9:24

And then I get home and I'm looking at

9:26

my pictures and I that's the best sleep of

9:28

my whole life Where's my crazy see like that

9:30

rushful. Yeah, and it's not just cuz of that

9:32

There's just like I don't know. There's something to

9:35

taking public space back Like I feel like we're

9:37

kind of bombarded with like buy

9:39

this buy this billboards and sign it and

9:41

all every everywhere It's like okay, and because

9:43

of you I would never write on businesses

9:47

Like small businesses or like people's property or anything

9:49

like that But if it's corporate if it's on

9:51

the side of the freeway, it's it's like a little

9:53

power box or something Whatever the hell it is. It's

9:55

like that's visually that's mine too.

9:57

You know, that's how I used to feel

10:00

I've grown up a little bit and it's like that's not really

10:02

how the world works That's what

10:04

I'll tell them if you're gonna do it just do it

10:06

like words Like it's not gonna like disturb anybody or upset

10:08

anyone. Well, I just upset certain people,

10:11

but whatever I mean, I definitely I I supported

10:14

you and it made you happy I would pray for you all

10:16

the time I'm like, god, please take care of them and I

10:18

get that rush thing because when I used to sneak out to

10:20

go to the Racist over there in Compton, it was just like

10:22

dude. I'm not supposed to do this. This is so

10:24

fun And you're probably more brazen about sneaking out

10:26

to me, dude. I would never like I don't

10:28

know. I wasn't ever taking mom's car. Dude.

10:31

I was crazy. Yeah, we gotta talk about that one

10:33

day We're talking about it right now. You put diesel

10:35

in mom's Lexus. I did And

10:38

then did you try to drive backwards to reverse

10:40

the mileage? Yes, dude stupid

10:42

dude Oh

10:45

yeah, you put me on blast. Yes I did. I'm sorry.

10:47

Hey dude, it's okay. I want to go. I want to

10:49

go. I want to go limitations. I'm sure it's okay. It's

10:51

all good. It's all good. I must have been like 16 years old

10:54

I didn't have my license yet. I think you're 15.

10:56

Yeah, I was younger. No for sure. I did not

10:58

have my license yet I was very I risk take

11:01

her to the fullest. Especially with the type of mom

11:03

we had I'm like dude What the hell was I

11:05

thinking? No for real and like we knew

11:09

No, no later until yeah, I think she

11:11

I think you did say it and she

11:13

I'm pretty sure that we had the conversation at some Point

11:15

and at that point she's just like she's just like well,

11:17

yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, yeah Yeah,

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A And I love using this word here on

14:01

the podcast, but you're very intentional right now. It's like, you know,

14:03

it's like, I want to be the

14:05

best. I want to be the best person.

14:07

I want like you're doing things with intent

14:09

and I see it. And I've always,

14:12

you know, me and my whole life, I've been

14:14

very nonchalant. Yeah. And it's kind of worked for

14:16

me. Like, you know, it's like, I mean, I've

14:18

never been a guy with a plan and

14:21

I've never been like, I

14:23

need this to happen in the world for me to be

14:25

okay. I think I've always been a journey, not the destination.

14:27

Yes. And I'm still very much

14:30

enjoying my journey, even on days when it's

14:32

not fun, even on days when I'm really

14:34

stressed out. And, you know, like I'm responsible

14:36

for people's lives, like, you know, like, and

14:38

their family and their, and feeding their kids

14:40

and stuff. And that's so that that always

14:42

on me. So, but even on those days,

14:44

I'm like, I appreciate it.

14:46

Like, you know, because it's like, I get

14:48

to, when I do make payroll, you know,

14:50

and we do, you know, you know, when

14:52

we do make payroll, that shit feels good

14:54

when it goes through and like, when I

14:56

know I have work plan, like plan, it's

14:58

like, I'm putting my people on. And

15:02

so, I'm so proud of you, dude.

15:04

I forgot what the, but I'm so proud of you.

15:06

I'm proud of you because I'm listening to, I hear

15:09

you speak and I'm just like, I've always, you've always

15:11

been such an intelligent boy. You're a

15:13

man properly. And it's like, just imagine what

15:15

I could do. That was the point where

15:17

it's just like, I haven't ever really had

15:19

a plan. It's like the Joker says in the Batman movie,

15:21

and just like a dog chasing cars. And like, if I

15:23

ever caught a car, I would not know what to do

15:25

with it. But like now it's

15:28

just, I, and it's worked out well,

15:30

but I can't keep testing my luck because I had a

15:32

lot of it has to do with, and it's funny because

15:34

I'm not, I'm the least like that of all you guys.

15:36

Yeah. That I believe in

15:38

that heavy that mom in one

15:40

way or another is, it looks out for

15:42

me and she's, you know, putting in positions to

15:45

succeed or she's saved my ass. And

15:47

when I put myself in dumb situations and I

15:49

like, I really believe that I feel like she has saved

15:51

your ass a lot and that luck is only going to run

15:53

out for so long. And it's like, okay, it's time to have

15:55

a plan now. And it's time to, to

15:57

want more and like, see what you can do then. Like

16:00

you know, it's like I feel like despite myself

16:02

I've been able to make something in my house

16:04

and now it's like what can happen if I

16:07

stop getting in my own way You know, like

16:09

nice then that's good. This dude man. No can't

16:11

nobody hold you back, but you yeah, absolutely

16:14

Absolutely. Oh my god. I'm telling you I freaking

16:16

love my siblings I always learn from them and

16:18

I'm just like I love listening to them I

16:20

love to listen to you I speak because you

16:22

guys are fucking like we dropping like little like

16:25

nuggets It's just those little gems like today what

16:27

you say about Prince. I was in Prince all

16:29

morning full Oh, I know me too. This morning

16:31

the group challenge to say hell. Yeah I'm

16:34

glad we have that like to because it was like a

16:36

lot of people that I

16:38

find it so weird when the people like oh, I don't

16:41

talk to my sister or like, you know Or we don't

16:43

really have a relationship or we didn't really grow up close

16:45

and that's so now that I'm older

16:47

I try not to judge because everybody's raised

16:49

differently and everybody goes through their own journeys

16:51

and people Perceive other people's actions

16:53

differently so I can't be like always forgive your siblings

16:55

But I'm so glad that I'm like I'm over here

16:58

on my well I think it was before my

17:00

bike ride I was getting ready and I was like

17:02

I was you know, just flipping through YouTube and

17:04

I'm like, oh that sounds interesting and like There

17:07

was like some really good stuff in that And

17:09

I was like and I'm glad I can like I

17:12

have someone to send that to and then we all

17:14

had a conversation about it It was great. We even

17:16

we're good at that. We talked about purple rain and

17:18

you Know You

17:21

know because I don't know

17:24

if I've shared this before I'm pretty sure I

17:26

have but I was conceived in Monte

17:28

Carlo at the drive-in like the movie

17:30

driving thingies or whatever Listen

17:32

to my mom. I guess you always told me that

17:34

says she was they were listening to purple rain So

17:36

I was called Prince my padarino. So we

17:38

were talking about that. We were having all this dialogue It

17:41

was really awesome. I and I've shared with you guys that

17:43

are That you were born

17:45

from pre pre-cum so pretty cool according to

17:47

my mother I knew that way Way

17:51

too young of an age. Yeah, so I'm you

17:54

know powerful. Hey But

17:56

wait, I don't know because then I know

17:58

that is my dad and my bike Biological father father

18:00

because well we have to say father obviously

18:02

but anyways because I look just like him

18:04

right but I don't know Where I heard

18:06

this I do look like dad. Yeah, I

18:08

barely come in a group So we look alike or

18:11

like that we look at now. I'm like oh Look

18:14

a lot. I see mom now in my face.

18:16

I'm like shit. That's weird I even see like

18:18

some of my uncles you for sure The more

18:20

so these days like ones that we don't one

18:22

that we don't speak to who like so it's

18:24

like I'm like I see In

18:26

like the rearview mirror this and the bridge in

18:28

my nose. I'm like, oh shit. That's weird. But

18:30

yeah, I honestly Father

18:34

my father your father. I'm worried about that

18:36

word. Yeah, I know I know But

18:39

how do you feel about dad now talking about that?

18:41

Are you like more open to talking to him or

18:43

you're like, man? I'm good. Actually,

18:45

this is something that I did do when we were talking

18:48

about. Oh, what should we talk about and I Luckily

18:51

mom sent me to that school when I was 17 Or

18:54

16 that to the the boarding school and

18:57

that was we thought I was going away So

18:59

I can catch up in school and I was

19:01

the last of their worries Like we did everything

19:03

on the computer home cooling program on the computer

19:05

But we did do seminars and we did daily

19:08

therapy and how are you going again eight

19:10

months? Yeah,

19:13

yeah and in that

19:15

school I had to like deal with and that's when when I came

19:17

back I started going by the name Because

19:19

I was like I hated you remember how angry

19:22

I used to walk around for that guy like

19:24

yeah How mad I was all the time. Well,

19:26

we were going through court for the whole trial thing

19:29

Mikey actually got a little physical my dad

19:32

The thing people bring up from the show a

19:35

lot. Did you really beat him up? I'll never

19:37

beat him up I punched him once and I

19:39

got fucked up by my other uncle's. No. Yeah

19:41

by his family Yeah, but it was the whole

19:43

rumble but pretty crazy. I don't know and that

19:45

was genuine like anger I was like my only

19:47

chance that ever and I don't regret that at

19:50

all. actually like yeah It was like mom was

19:52

mad cuz she was like you need to be

19:54

representing me better and show that I raised a

19:56

man with Self-control. Yeah, and I didn't have it

19:58

in that moment, but I. The young but

20:00

yeah I mean I am. I just needed to get

20:02

that out but you have any was I could even

20:04

you would tommy where I'd say. You

20:07

know it's I would speak badly about him because

20:09

of the anger that I internalized my whole childhood

20:11

and you'd be late and I would think there's

20:13

something wrong to you as you don't need to

20:15

speak like that about him and them died in

20:17

that.the dirt You know why? Yeah Ali, whatever says

20:19

she has been to gives but then when I

20:22

went to that school Mexico we had our forces

20:24

to deal with it and as the site. A

20:27

gym Really like genuinely like, relate or

20:29

and will have to walk around this

20:31

forever like he's a human. He's like

20:33

and made mistakes and t sony of

20:35

so figure that out know soon So

20:37

he's he's on his except or not

20:39

or whatever but whatever that is that

20:41

on his own time for me, for

20:43

my sake, for the safeco, the people

20:45

around me for the sake of my

20:47

children. I need to let that go

20:49

and see the silver lining that like

20:51

whatever he was the dad like. And

20:53

he what he wasn't there and subtle habit

20:55

example. but I have a clean slate. I'll

20:57

have all these so we have generational things

20:59

that you know go on but late as

21:01

far as dad like l gotta hold onto

21:03

that in on a cloud of the have

21:05

to be how I carry myself with my

21:07

kids and stuff and so on rides. When

21:10

I say I'm genuinely like no longer mad

21:12

at him and like no longer have set

21:14

the the i have the same name light

21:16

That's that. That was a huge thing for

21:18

me and my I feel I feel like.

21:20

I've been told or as I know uses

21:22

stinky shield from a you need a concern

21:24

units I bet earth new I tell him.

21:26

alleged enemies of hell Me I know like

21:28

generally do not hate the guy but we're

21:30

doing Jackie so those you'd like to talk

21:32

to my mind at all. It's a

21:35

closed door and and on that you need to ios.

21:37

There's other so many doors ahead of me and I'm

21:39

not. I'm not thinking about this one over here on

21:41

the right and I don't need to see what's on

21:44

the other side of that. It's okay. And the site?

21:46

you know it's Oscars. It's hard in growing up without

21:48

a mad certain makes. being

21:50

a man a lot harder but i'll well

21:52

he i always nice or gotta do it

21:54

like a lot of doing honestly i know

21:56

either what am i going to do reopen

21:58

the store and my Mm-hmm or

22:01

just that makes sense. I mean, yeah, because

22:03

for a long time you were upset and which is

22:05

why your name is Mikey,

22:08

why we call you Mikey because he

22:10

didn't want to be called Trinidad. I would like

22:12

to Clarify that I

22:14

like you guys you will

22:17

call me Mikey because they have the

22:19

real okay They saw the reality show. Yeah,

22:21

I'm like, I'm with my family. I like

22:24

that one now It's going on me like,

22:26

you know amongst you guys I am Mikey,

22:28

but now like as a grown-ass man We

22:31

like Mike, you know, I think

22:33

people have this thing where they see us kind of

22:35

as like still the age that we were Back then. Yeah,

22:37

and I feel like I don't know Mikey

22:40

anymore. It's Mikey. It's my GHK.

22:43

Oh Anywhere

22:46

it's okay, so that wasn't my name one day.

22:48

Yeah. Yeah, so okay. So that's why his name

22:50

is that's what we call Why did okay? I

22:52

I always thought Mom told me

22:55

that it was because of Michael Jordan, but in reality is

22:57

it was because of the Ninja Turtle Hey,

22:59

I know yes But cuz he

23:02

chose his name. I I that's I I didn't

23:04

know the I Suppressed

23:07

a lot till I was like seven years old pretty

23:09

much when dad was gone I thought

23:11

it was normal that people's memories don't start

23:13

like till then like but people

23:15

I know I talked to people and they

23:17

remember Being babies Edward our old producer said

23:19

this swear to God. He remembers being born

23:21

like that's crazy Which I don't think that's

23:23

necessarily true But my

23:26

shit doesn't start till I was seven and then like

23:28

I didn't know like remember I saw when I got

23:30

in when I became A teenager I got really into

23:32

basketball again. It's been my favorite word ever since I

23:34

thought that that happened because I got close with red

23:37

But I'd always had that love I didn't know I played when

23:39

I was younger. Yeah So

23:41

it could have been because of that but it's part of

23:43

a memory that I suppressed and push back

23:45

That's what I'm interested in. I'll be down to do like

23:47

hypnotism and just see what you see what happened Dude

23:50

that's because that I'm down that I don't I

23:52

might have to do a dad or I don't

23:54

really know You know because at first it was

23:56

max. Yeah, cuz of the dog of the dog.

23:58

We had a dog named rather named Max

24:00

so he was like I want to be if I want my

24:02

name to be Max my mom was like Okay, you don't want your

24:04

name to be true to dad. We won't call you true to dad

24:06

What do you want? I want max and then after with Michael. Yeah,

24:09

and now he's a dog something

24:11

I was like fuck max Yeah,

24:16

yeah, but Mike for me what I associated

24:18

with is Michael Angelo the Ninja Turtle and

24:20

I didn't know like I didn't know at

24:22

the time that they were all named after

24:26

Renaissance artists like I just thought he was

24:28

cool. He's always cracking. Yeah, he was like

24:30

the funny one eating pizza and Riding

24:33

a skateboard. I'm like kicking ass like that's

24:35

what I want to be and I'm like, so

24:37

yeah There's people think that so Michael Jordan

24:40

they can very well be but yeah I was like,

24:42

I didn't even know my middle name was Angelo my

24:44

whole life Yeah, I just happened to just happen to

24:46

work. Yeah, it's perfect see Michael Angelo. I love

24:48

that's my favorite Ninja Turtle, by the way As

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Now that we're on this topic, let's talk a little bit

27:23

about your last name. Our last name. I

27:25

carry Marin. I never really wanted to

27:27

change it. We've never really talked about

27:29

this because it's a big thing,

27:31

the whole Rivera thing, and like how I don't use Chiquis

27:33

Rivera, and that's not because it's like I hate the last

27:36

name. Obviously, I want to honor

27:38

my mother, but I feel that there's other ways that

27:40

I can honor her than to like change my last

27:42

name or use a last name or not use it.

27:44

But mom did, and she did ask us before she

27:46

passed, maybe like a year or two years? I don't

27:48

know. Okay. She had kind of like

27:50

mentioned that. She said, why don't you guys change your last

27:53

name? Why don't you guys change it to Rivera? And I

27:55

remember even when she was here, I would

27:57

tell her, I'm like, I like my last name, mom. Like

27:59

no matter what. my dad did like I like Marine

28:02

and I don't necessarily want to be a Rivera but how

28:04

do you feel because now you you're

28:06

gonna change your last name legally right I think again

28:08

with you it's kind of like it's

28:10

like the like I said with me that with three and

28:12

up it's like

28:14

owning it's like that's yeah whatever is

28:17

pat before this point doesn't matter that's

28:19

your last name you know yeah and

28:21

not for much longer yeah true but

28:24

but I mean so I understand that yeah

28:27

I think it's different because we're you know

28:29

I you know I'm

28:32

a male so I carry I give on you

28:34

know true my the last name and it's like

28:36

okay Luna already has marine and when it came

28:38

with second baby was like do I want to

28:40

is that the name I want to push like

28:42

no like I'm like I'm

28:45

my mom's child and I'm carrying on her

28:47

name and like whatever I'm attached to it

28:49

because even if you think about it like

28:52

there are people that will say

28:54

oh they're not actually Rivera's whatever they it's

28:56

a fucking name who cares you know

28:58

but even like even

29:00

if it's like not being if even if it's

29:02

attached from the certain group of people now like

29:05

that was the test we never knew any of

29:07

the Rivera's in in La Barca Jalisco right you

29:09

know none of us know them we know

29:12

we know that's our other yeah we don't

29:14

like no yeah okay that's grandpa's name that's

29:16

fine and like you know

29:18

mom's carried on his legacy but I'm carrying

29:21

on my mother's yeah and in my own

29:23

way and it makes sense you know we've never talked about this

29:25

by the way this is the first time we're having a conversation

29:27

it was kind of I think we were at odds and

29:29

we're like we're not having this conversation we're kind of like

29:31

hold up because there's a lot going on but now

29:33

that you're explaining to me that makes a lot of

29:36

sense absolutely you're you're the man and like you're honoring

29:38

your mother and and you want so are you changing

29:40

Luna's last name too yeah yeah and she's actually

29:42

she wants her name to be hyphenated so

29:45

she wants her she wants her mom's last

29:47

name too I love that and she so

29:49

she even chose the order whatever it's Rivera

29:51

Ibarra I was like like phonetically Ibarra Rivera

29:53

sounds better she's like no I want it

29:55

like that that okay so I love that

29:57

and she's super excited about it because she's

29:59

like She's in her like her

30:02

fan stage right now. Well, she's been for a long

30:04

time. Yeah, she's like listening to mom's music and

30:06

everything. She listens to my music. She's like, I

30:09

want to meet my uncle Lupe. And

30:11

I'm like, what? That's so random. Like nothing

30:13

against my feel, but we just haven't, you

30:15

know, he's been out his way for a

30:17

long time. You know, we had we were

30:19

at odds. I think when I was younger

30:21

because of how I viewed things. Yeah. So

30:25

I mean, and I didn't get him, but it was yeah, I

30:27

don't care. I just you know,

30:29

it's just be like it's just when she

30:31

did it when she asked me out of

30:33

nowhere. I'm just like, okay, like why why

30:35

feel looped of all of them? But you

30:38

know, that little girl has a total mind of

30:40

her own and I love that you and her

30:42

mom like you guys you guys embrace that like

30:44

you allow her to be here in like like

30:46

show her individuality and I love that because instead

30:49

of you getting upset because there's certain things that Luna is

30:51

his oldest daughter guys and he has

30:53

a little baby. Yes, you girls and you're and

30:55

we'll talk about you being a dad, but you

30:57

sent a video in the group chat of her

30:59

or I think you posted it on Instagram of

31:01

her talking about what her future husband was going

31:03

to look like. Oh, yeah. And

31:05

you were just like, yeah, tell me and she was telling you what

31:07

that he she wanted him tall dark

31:10

and handsome. Yeah, yeah. She said he was

31:12

she wanted tattoos and jet black hair. Yeah,

31:14

she's always but she's always known who she

31:16

is. You know, I remember it really early

31:18

on I stopped choosing her clothes for her.

31:21

Like yeah, and you just let her do she wasn't happy in

31:23

the little t-shirts and little

31:25

jeggings. I was picking for her and

31:27

she wanted to wear this ridiculous fucking

31:29

trolls wig and like a

31:31

skirt and like two different socks because

31:33

they had different colors and like, you

31:35

know, like I love it and

31:37

I of course like most guys that you know when

31:39

you find out you're having a baby so you're going

31:41

to have a soon and you know,

31:43

it's gonna he's gonna do all the things that I

31:46

like and do all that. Jenna came out. She's like,

31:48

no, I'm a girl. I don't know nothing about this,

31:50

but you better learn. I still can't do her hair.

31:52

But thank God. She's like, she's just like,

31:54

she's more like, I like my hair down and I don't don't

31:57

don't touch my hair. She's getting back into styles.

31:59

Oh, yeah. I was like, I know you guys know who she is. And I'm

32:01

like, and I just loved seeing

32:03

that come out because she was nonverbal till

32:05

she was four. And like, yeah, so even

32:07

on days where she's just like bombarding me

32:09

like with questions and just talking to me

32:11

and being goofy right now, she's in her,

32:13

you know, I, I, I

32:15

was like, damn, is there something wrong with me? Cause she's

32:18

a lot to handle right now sometimes. But

32:20

it's like, I was, remember how annoying I

32:22

was at like fucking a like 11 years

32:24

old. She

32:27

just wants to be funny. And like she's learning

32:29

how to make jokes and you know, she doesn't

32:31

necessarily know how jokes work. And so

32:33

it's a lot. And sometimes it's nonsensical and I don't know what

32:35

to say, but I'm like, that's a lot better than me when

32:37

I was 11 purposely trying to get

32:39

on people's nerves and being a little bitch

32:41

dude. Like, I'm sorry. I don't know for

32:44

a lot of, yeah, you can say bitch and F

32:46

and all that. But like, you know,

32:48

like, so right now she's in that phase. And

32:50

so even in the moments where I'm a little

32:52

overwhelmed, I'm like, dude, this is way better than

32:54

I thought she was going to be nonverbal her

32:56

whole life. I had no reason to

32:59

believe she's thriving right now. She

33:01

talks about, and she's so smart and has

33:03

an amazing memory. Like her grandmother. Yeah. I think

33:05

she's going to be okay. And like my biggest thing

33:07

is, uh, is

33:10

you know, just anything that she wants to do, whether

33:12

it's like she wants to go away for college, she

33:14

wants her home apartment. She wants a purple Honda. She,

33:17

uh, she wants to, you

33:19

know, be a nail tag. She wants to do hair.

33:21

She wants to be an actress, a singer. And who

33:23

am I, who are we to say that she can't

33:25

do all these things? You know, like obviously I just

33:28

want to let her explore things. And, uh, obviously

33:31

me and her mom have always been very guarded,

33:33

guarded over her as far as like, you know,

33:35

so I don't necessarily like want her making

33:38

a TikTok right now or open YouTube page. But do I

33:40

want her to like, if, if we get her in the

33:42

studio and so she could record songs, I would be like

33:44

the best, you know, like, I think she wants

33:46

to do better express herself because she writes songs

33:49

and she writes things. And I

33:51

think that you guys, I love that. I love

33:53

how you and her mom has like just embraced

33:55

it and let her just be, which I think

33:57

is awesome. And I was talking about you as

33:59

a parent. I remember specifically when

34:01

I one time I was like you're so I'm so

34:03

proud of you I'm so proud of you for the

34:05

dad that you are and you're like what I'm just

34:07

doing like what I'm supposed to do You know and

34:09

I and when you said that to me I was

34:11

like shit I guess so But I guess I was

34:13

saying more of like I'm proud of you because you

34:15

weren't you didn't have your dad in your life You

34:17

know what I mean like he was absent and the

34:19

fact that it's just you're just Such

34:22

a great dad Like I

34:24

try. I mean I really are I think

34:26

I'm overly critical and myself and everything That's

34:29

the only way I know how to operate so it's like

34:31

I take everything with a grain of salt and then a

34:33

lot of Times I just feel like because

34:35

so many it was more common for

34:37

my friends growing up to not have their dad around

34:39

Yeah, you know like yeah And I didn't you know

34:41

I didn't think it was like it was kind of

34:43

weird when I would go to my wife's house in

34:45

Narco and they had a Full family whatever it was

34:47

cool. I was like oh shit like yeah,

34:50

same But most of my friends didn't have

34:52

their dads growing up and like I think

34:54

we all like that We thought that that

34:56

was a normal thing. Yeah, and some of

34:58

us Some of us are like,

35:01

you know not not us cuz I don't associate

35:03

with dudes that you know Like if you have

35:05

your kids and you're a bum-ass, you know, you

35:07

know you you don't Spend I

35:09

can't get enough time with Luna, you know I'm saying like,

35:11

you know So

35:13

that we actually take pride of that in our generation or you're

35:15

the type of person like oh I don't have a dad so

35:18

I don't have to be around it and I can't I

35:21

can't that can never be an excuse and it's

35:23

I Think a lot of people you get props

35:25

for just being around and for me, that's not

35:27

enough either like yeah You know, it's not just

35:29

like yeah Well, no most people's dads aren't around

35:31

so good job for just being there You know

35:33

and I try not to like pat

35:35

myself on the back for that too much Good, just be

35:37

like I'm a provider and I get you what you need.

35:39

Yeah A

35:41

parent, you know like then then that and

35:43

with Nova it's a it's a second chance

35:46

to start again Okay, guys wait,

35:48

we're running a little bit at a time Well, we've

35:50

run out of time. So we're just gonna leave

35:52

the second part of our conversation for tomorrow So

35:55

tune in tomorrow because we're gonna you know, talk

35:57

about a little bit more. Well, Mikey

35:59

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