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to the next level! What

2:06

up guys? Welcome back to my conversation with my

2:08

brother. If you guys didn't listen to the first

2:10

part, because it's now the second part, listen to

2:12

the first part of the conversation with my brother, Mike.

2:15

Okay? Big Mike, not Mikey no more. All

2:17

right, so here we go. Have

2:22

you forgiven yourself yet for

2:24

the relationship with Luna's mom not working?

2:26

Because I know that we'd have you on you

2:28

for a long time. I think we're at a

2:30

good understanding here now where it's like, it's good.

2:33

It's probably never gonna work out. You guys were

2:35

just meant to make this beautiful being? Well, yeah,

2:37

I mean, we just we climb together really quick

2:39

and then just find out over time, like we

2:42

were within a year being together, we were pregnant

2:44

with Luna. And then,

2:47

you know, she says that

2:51

the day mom passed, I changed, you know,

2:53

and that

2:55

I have no point of reference because I don't remember

2:57

that person anymore. You know? Yeah. And

2:59

so I'm sorry for that error for, you

3:02

know, using that as justification for any stupid

3:04

decisions I made or just

3:06

letting it go or feeling like relief when she

3:08

left me, you know, because it wasn't like we

3:10

were at odds and

3:13

you know, it's it's easier to run

3:15

away than to find out why you

3:17

love somebody, you know? And so

3:20

I mean, I still regret not like,

3:23

you know, not not waking up with Luna in my

3:25

house every morning, you know, or not always

3:29

being able to take her to school or pick her

3:31

up because she, you know, for a while there we

3:33

both lived in the valley. So

3:35

it wasn't too far and it

3:38

was possible. But now there's you know, there's more distance

3:40

there and it's just yeah. But

3:43

I mean, we're at a good understanding Luna

3:45

understanding if anything like me and her mom

3:47

have in the past couple of years. But

3:49

we had a couple rough patches. But

3:52

in the past year we've gotten really good and we

3:54

can like kind of talk again. I miss that because

3:56

me and Dre were legit like, like really

3:58

good friends. broken up.

4:01

Luna, it's weird for her sometimes. Like she

4:03

gets bugged out and her mom will be

4:06

like, your dad's my friend. Like this, he's

4:08

my really good friend. Like, and she's just

4:10

like, can we just go already? Like they're

4:12

over here talking and like laughing. She's uncomfortable.

4:15

Yeah. She's like, this is weird. And like

4:17

that makes me sad because she doesn't remember

4:20

having a whole family. And I

4:22

get to redo that again, you

4:24

know? And it's

4:26

not always easy, but it's like, it's definitely

4:29

worth. I'm a big believer in the nuclear

4:31

family and the way that

4:33

we're going in the world, it's discouraged or it's

4:35

a lie or yeah, because it can't work out

4:37

for everybody. But there's having a

4:39

mom and a dad in the same household and

4:41

the mom and the dad being able to communicate

4:44

and, and, uh, it makes a big difference. Yeah.

4:47

The baby having all the love possible. We,

4:49

my sweetheart lives with us. So she

4:51

just has, she has, she's with her grandma all

4:53

the time and she's getting love from all these

4:55

angles and Luna's are really good, but there's

4:57

not a hint of jealousy and like, thank

4:59

goodness that perfect time that, you know, and

5:01

it's like, you know, it

5:03

just sucks that Luna missed out on that. Cause of

5:05

my decisions and I'll take full blame for that. You

5:08

know, for, you know, just a lot brother. That

5:10

means that you've, and so I wanted

5:12

to ask you that because you also

5:14

have to remember you both were so young. You

5:16

know what I mean? Like I, I held you for

5:18

like 20, 21. Yeah. I

5:21

knew mom for half of her life. Yeah.

5:23

Crazy, right? She's 42 and she passed. I

5:26

was 21 and damn do you play with

5:28

that? And if I'm lucky, I would've known

5:30

her a third of my life. You know,

5:32

like I don't know how far I'm gonna

5:34

make it. I knock her out. I don't

5:36

know. Please Lord. Yeah. Um,

5:39

but you know, it's just like at the end of

5:41

the day, it's going to be a really small portion

5:43

of time of life that I had her, you know,

5:45

but she came at the perfect time because I would,

5:48

you know, damn well, especially at that call Luna his

5:50

lifesaver. Yeah. Cause I would, I would have lost my

5:52

mind, you know, but I don't know how many months

5:54

she was three months, three months when my mom passed.

5:56

I feel like telling you God aligned everything was like,

5:58

wait, you're not gonna do it. because I think it

6:00

would have been a disaster if we didn't have Luna

6:03

for you. Yeah, no, I would have for sure

6:05

went off of the deep side. It changed us. I

6:07

still have bad

6:09

habits and things that I'm trying to correct, and that

6:11

would have been too much. And then also I was

6:13

very guarded under mom. So it's

6:15

like without having, or not, I

6:21

don't think she purposely kept us for experience. I just,

6:23

she kind of knew my tendencies

6:25

and my, to kind of go in no

6:28

direction I wasn't supposed to go. And if

6:30

I didn't have that there and Luna there

6:32

to keep me, keep

6:34

me level headed, I would have been used to losing an

6:36

excuse to just fucking go off and

6:38

be the fucking graffiti writer I'd always wanted to

6:40

be. And just not giving

6:42

shit and just fucking, you

6:45

know, I would have been lost. It's been completely

6:47

different. No, absolutely. I mean, it changed

6:49

us. Losing mom, it was learning

6:52

how to live and all over again. It

6:54

was tough. I mean, the fact that you

6:57

can be vulnerable and talk about it and accept

6:59

it, that's like huge. A lot of people don't,

7:01

you know? And I think- Let's talk about mom.

7:03

Talk about mom or talk about also the mistakes

7:06

that you also, like you could say, hey, it

7:08

was my fault. I messed that up or whatever.

7:10

Like, and forgive yourself for it and

7:12

say, oh, give yourself some grace and give yourself some

7:14

like space to say, hey, I messed up and I'm

7:16

trying to fix it. You know what I mean? And-

7:19

Say, you guys tell me I'm not nice enough to myself, but

7:21

I think in the moment, in the subjects that matter, I

7:24

do give myself grace or I allow myself grace or be

7:26

like, you know, you did that, how are you gonna react

7:28

now? So I might

7:30

give myself up the rest of the time, but that's

7:33

only because of, I don't know. I

7:35

don't think talking to myself positively

7:37

works for me or

7:39

telling myself that I'm the greatest and I'm worthy of

7:41

this, this and this. Like, you're more logical. Well, I

7:43

have to prove it to myself, you know? Like, cause

7:45

I, as it is, I don't believe myself. So if

7:48

there's anyone out there in the world I need to

7:50

prove wrong, it's me. That back

7:52

part of me that has doubt, I'm

7:54

gonna show you, you, you know? I'm

7:56

gonna show you, you. Yeah. Yeah. But

7:59

it does help. to just say, you know, pause like,

8:01

all right, you got this shit, dude. You got like,

8:03

I try. But the thing is, when with

8:05

especially because I'm new to affirmations and

8:08

so maybe just like general happy

8:10

ones don't necessarily work for me. But a

8:13

great affirmation is, all right, what do you

8:15

need to improve on today? Or

8:17

what do you need to what do you need

8:19

to be avoiding? Or, you know, like, like

8:22

I've been I think I got back in my fast and

8:24

fucked holidays, fucked me up. But I got back into it.

8:26

And then like so. But when I when I am and

8:28

I'm like, I'm hungry and I'm pushing past it and I'm

8:30

like, you know, it's like that's

8:32

like that's an affirmation. For me, it's like, no,

8:35

you can't have self-control and you're not you're not

8:37

controlled by every single little impulse that you have

8:39

to go. Something stupid or just like, you

8:41

know, I try to be the level headed one, you know,

8:44

yeah. And you are honestly like you.

8:46

I think we have a little bit

8:48

of everything in our little in our

8:50

family and our sibling, you know, family.

8:52

But that's what I love about you, because when

8:55

you speak, like there's a lot of like right

8:57

now you're leaving a lot of little gems here and I love

9:00

it like a lot of little bites. I'm like listening to you.

9:02

I'm like, dude, this is fucking awesome. Like I have such a.

9:04

I'm glad it feels like it's very natural. Like,

9:06

yeah, it's like we're having a conversation and these are

9:08

our conversations you guys on our group chat. We talk

9:10

about some real shit like we go back and forth.

9:12

We have discussions. We don't always agree. But he knows

9:14

that I'm just like, that's so cheeky. I feel

9:16

like it's always me and you kind of.

9:18

Yeah, you know. And but that's OK, dude.

9:21

It's not like we're completely different people and

9:23

I need your your

9:25

unrelenting positivity sometimes. Yeah, you know,

9:27

like, you know, like, yeah, when

9:30

you tell me I'm the greatest, some days I'm just

9:32

like, she's full of shit. She doesn't know. But other

9:34

days, other days it gets through, you know, and then

9:36

I mean it. The days

9:38

when I'm the lowest, like sometimes like you might

9:40

not even know because I try to charge. I

9:42

don't know. I also wear my emotions on my

9:44

sleeves. I

9:51

often get asked why I'm such a big fan of

9:53

wrestling. And it's all thanks to

9:55

my grandma. Growing up,

9:57

we would watch matches together. And

10:00

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10:02

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near you. Before

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we move on, because I wanted to do a little something with you, a little game. But

13:01

a lot of people always wonder, like, why is

13:03

Mikey like more, or Mike, you

13:05

know, Mike, why is Mike

13:07

like so like behind the scenes? Like, because

13:09

you're not in the limelight, which I think

13:12

is awesome. Do you do that to protect

13:14

yourself? Or do you do that more because

13:16

you don't want to deal with all the bullshit that like

13:18

goes on with it? Or is it just

13:20

you're just happier that way? Like, what is it? Onions

13:22

have layers. I'm just kidding. But there's

13:24

multiple layers to it. I think what

13:27

happened when I was, I think, 15 with,

13:30

you know, one of my friends leading other

13:32

dickheads to break into

13:34

the house while we were gone. Oh, yes, yes. That,

13:36

from then on, I was, I think before that,

13:38

I was probably a lot more bubbly and nice

13:40

and, and I still am that way. But now

13:42

it's just like, I'm nice

13:45

to everyone from a distance, but there's only so

13:47

many people that get close. And I don't like

13:49

that. But that's, it was a defense mechanism formed

13:51

from back then. And then I got into graffiti.

13:53

And then so it's like, and the cool thing about

13:55

that was that For a

13:57

little bit anyways, because now people., The

14:00

who? no no the others should send your Isis

14:02

and he's a year and he hangs out. These

14:04

guys or whatever like reading everything is his word.

14:06

A map of for a lot for a little

14:08

bit was like this is cool to this has

14:10

to do with me De Souza can own It

14:12

has nothing to do with my family or my

14:14

face or my name and my glass or lot

14:16

of a camera and thousand like all the pictures

14:18

of me from before I'm eighty on the cover

14:20

in my face you know. I yeah my you

14:22

know realizes killer some a serious our this

14:24

my thing and then my I took same

14:26

really different from everybody just because it didn't

14:29

feel real because live as you I was

14:31

same as one for be mom son and

14:33

I had always and I accepted I'm her

14:35

son but I wanted to become something of

14:37

my own and family even though we were

14:39

ourselves on a so you know it's like

14:41

there's not I can be tossing said that

14:43

the Rivera is or I'll have journey mother

14:46

that was scripted I was all genuinely allowed

14:48

I stood on think that's the best reputation

14:50

representational myself and that's not. A model

14:52

would back on that as I am super proud

14:54

of our own. And they're They're fun moments that

14:56

we win the lives of and something without a

14:59

job you know will read our we wouldn't have

15:01

the had certain memories without that in my some

15:03

That birth and of the Daylights. I.

15:05

Am brought a lot of attention that

15:07

didn't feel armed and they just didn't

15:10

feel I was genuinely because mean like

15:12

So I mean how to do a

15:14

lot with that and I'm gonna love

15:16

you for you for Michael Yeah and

15:18

then the last layer was it is

15:20

among the summer the summer mom fans

15:22

are Dagger Lucrezia city. well way long

15:24

as they would lay people in my

15:26

go myself only just free for years

15:28

like hour after here by the from

15:30

like people bothering drag her dmz know

15:32

I now pay or line you know

15:34

what was your. other x is like people

15:37

of thinking and this his majesty bullet or

15:39

haters anymore the think that they love us

15:41

the on the same way that there's people

15:43

that love mom so much that dell attack

15:45

you because they think that they're so in

15:47

love and later and like try the they'd

15:49

be like messaging apps and my axe and

15:52

be like oh you're not good enough for

15:54

him your fucking holding an unknown this girl

15:56

had two jobs clouzot an annoying as hell

15:58

with her own life depression and

16:00

her own, uh, her own insecurity and

16:02

stuff. And like, yeah. And it's like,

16:05

that's cool. Yeah. After

16:07

that, I was like, all right, you guys don't get

16:09

this anymore. And then even with, with, with Nova, like

16:12

those moments are, they're precious and it's not like, Oh,

16:14

I'm holding this off from the world, but I'm still

16:16

locked in in that moment. Like, I get the feeling

16:18

of like, Oh, I got to take the picture and

16:20

send it to my siblings. And for me, that's all

16:22

that like, look, you guys, I

16:25

Instagram, you enjoy, you enjoy being

16:27

private. The last, last part is

16:29

I don't think people deserve it.

16:32

Nice. My following doesn't necessarily doesn't deserve

16:34

it, you know, cause that's all they,

16:36

all they care about is not

16:38

all day. I'm sorry, because I don't mean to offend

16:40

anyone, but genuinely the same reason

16:42

they want to know about my personal life is like the rest

16:45

of, you know, it's like episodic TV.

16:47

Like you want to know about every character. Oh, and

16:49

this character goes this way and this one, and this

16:51

one pops up in the sixties and

16:53

like there's, so they want that, like, you know,

16:55

Oh, it's like, let me just check in on

16:58

all these people. But when it comes to like,

17:00

last time I did my friend small podcast, like,

17:02

and I was checking the live views just cause

17:04

I wanted to help him out and

17:06

nobody like it was like there was hours had

17:08

passed and nobody was like, Oh, let me give this

17:10

a click. You know, and I don't hold that against

17:13

people, but I'm like, I'm

17:15

definitely not just gonna, what I'm going to start just

17:17

posting shit just based on what people want to see,

17:19

because that's not what I, that's what I'm not, not

17:21

what I want, but I don't feel the need to

17:23

present that to the world. I don't need to be

17:25

like my whole being is being

17:28

a parent or being autism parent or Jenny's son.

17:30

There's so much more complexities to me. And it's

17:32

like, if there's, cause I

17:35

don't, maybe I'd be more if my, my life

17:37

depended on it, but like I got lucky to

17:39

find this pocket of work where I don't need,

17:42

I don't need to put it out every day or

17:44

I don't need to like search for likes and stuff

17:46

or whatever. And I'm, I'm blessed

17:48

because God knows it's uncomfortable for me. Like

17:50

even like posting stuff of my work, like

17:52

it fucks up the whole day. Cause

17:55

I have to think, I'm like, Oh, I gotta make sure we get

17:57

this and I gotta get this and get this. And

18:00

on the days when I just tell myself, don't

18:03

fucking worry about it. Like just paint, do a

18:05

great job, get a good final picture. And you're

18:07

ready? Those are the days, yeah. And

18:09

then like, and then I, when I am dedicated

18:11

too much, I get too much footage. It's too

18:13

damn long. No one's holding their attention that long.

18:16

And it's like, I do need to get better

18:18

at it. And eventually I'll pay somebody to do

18:20

that. But when I finally let that go, like

18:22

I lived at a lot more peace and I

18:24

delete Instagram off my phone at least once

18:27

every other couple months. I know. I'm

18:29

searching. I'm like, Dan, where's Mikey? He, okay.

18:32

He deactivated and cool. It's normal. It's, it's, it's,

18:34

I'm those days go better up here right now. I'm just like,

18:37

even though they don't like, dude, you've been scrolling for this

18:39

shit too long. Like you need to be doing something

18:41

else or even if I'm fucking, I don't know. I

18:43

just like, that's, I'm not comfortable spending my time.

18:45

And I know I'm also conscious

18:47

of my own bad habits. Like I always got to

18:50

go to common sections. Like, let

18:52

me find the dumb ass in here. That's about to say

18:54

some stupid shit about Kendrick right now. But

18:57

that's so toxic. And

19:00

I, if I can't, if I know I'm not like

19:02

on most days I'll like type something out. I'm

19:05

like, ha, that's clever. And then delete it. And that's

19:07

good enough. But even that's like, why? You know, it's

19:09

in, I don't think lastly,

19:11

lastly, lastly, I'm not sure if we were

19:14

ever supposed to meant be meant to be

19:16

this exposed to each other's thoughts and like,

19:18

you know, like just in every, and then

19:20

maybe that's fine. No one gets along now

19:22

because we know too much about each other

19:24

and everyone has this opinion

19:26

that they want or, you know,

19:28

I feel like everyone wants to change the world and

19:31

do it in their own way. And when nobody,

19:33

and when other people are, don't see

19:35

the same vision, there's something wrong with this

19:37

person. And like, now we're all clashing when

19:39

it's like, if you guys just all shut

19:42

the fuck up and be nice to each other, that'll work a

19:44

lot better. But yeah, I love you,

19:46

dude. So

19:48

all those reasons, like, honestly, they're all valid.

19:50

I'm not even like, I get it. And

19:53

that's just for me. That's not like I

19:55

look down on people on social media or

19:57

like, yeah, I scaled back a little bit

19:59

for the. Very than way to say I

20:01

was sharing too much on social media site. Okay,

20:03

people just had an opinion about everything. Now I'm

20:05

like okay, I don't necessarily want to share everything

20:08

amount of about my relationship a gallon and live

20:10

in. Go on a bike ride and like sooner

20:12

or later so many different things are think we'll

20:14

have to know everything you know. You're actually

20:16

that for so you have the to that

20:18

fine line is so personal parts yourself and

20:21

then also muscle every random product to to

20:23

but you have your own my own businesses

20:25

and said the you have to push out

20:27

and I understand that but luckily later I

20:29

don't have a may I see that as

20:31

a blessing as opposed all our own bodies

20:33

on my leg. I genuinely it's fine with

20:35

me they're like yeah I don't get that

20:38

message of when I do try to get

20:40

injured marriage is there are there are reason

20:42

is because I'm being of as at all

20:44

your time is Cheryl. Antenna some light of that

20:46

naturally how I am is mean on fox it to

20:48

us okay that I know get offended he'll tell us

20:51

straight out all I did things. So for alamo

20:53

have more to do with self control I do

20:55

that. maybe me to hear this clever little opinion

20:57

I had about this slut like know and most

20:59

of us are monsters know the and. Unruly to

21:01

most people. Think about anything when you

21:03

genuinely don't like guys. As as as

21:06

you know, like. I was really young

21:08

when I wanted to save the world and it's

21:10

stress now on the world's still first male to

21:12

this day. but ah Marjan be the one to

21:14

save and muscle taken. I have this little world.

21:17

the I'm struggling, the keep togetherness struggling. But you

21:19

know if your muscles islands and it's like when

21:21

I get this down, pack them. maybe I'll come

21:23

out to see the river anatomy back, you know?

21:25

Yeah, As

21:28

an actor, a producer and a promising a

21:30

father of my days can get very busy

21:32

which is why I make sure to that

21:34

a good time to what's important. Like.

21:37

Supporting my community through my work. Sir Michael oh

21:39

me and him and is willing Culture. And.

21:41

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21:44

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21:46

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21:48

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21:51

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you go, brother, this is a game called We're Not

24:40

Really Strangers. Have you heard of it? No, I'm glad. Okay.

24:44

It's a family edition and I want you to pick a card or

24:46

actually I'm going to pick a card and I'm going to ask you

24:48

a question. Is that cool? Okay, pick it from the

24:50

three pile. From the three pile. Shit. Okay.

24:53

Why? Well, I don't know because usually it goes from...

24:55

Anyway, we'll see. Fuck up your magic trick? Pick

24:58

a card or any card, but this one specifically. Okay.

25:01

No, not this one because there's... Okay. I'm

25:04

sexual. It's very sexual. Here we

25:06

go. What's a vivid memory that you have

25:08

of me growing up that makes you smile

25:10

to this day? Shit. All

25:13

right. I got it. And

25:15

you know, I know you'll have the exact same

25:18

memory. What? Hooked

25:20

on phonics. Oh. Oh,

25:23

me too. You

25:25

took so much pride in just

25:28

making sure me and Jackie were engaged and you

25:30

know, mom was always put so much into school

25:32

and none of us were good at it. Yeah.

25:35

Including yourself, but you're like, fuck it. I'm going

25:37

to... And you were the best teacher. Mrs. Cheeky's,

25:39

Mrs. Cheeky's. And like, so yeah,

25:41

I remember... Hooked on... Hooked on the

25:44

floor. You would make it the funnest game, dude. And

25:46

like, and I remember being

25:48

mad at you because you didn't read my Flintstones book

25:50

to me the same way the mom did. You remember

25:53

that? Because you didn't change your voice and shit. That's

25:55

just a bonus. No, I do. No, I do because of

25:57

that. I'm like, shit, I have to put like more like characters.

26:00

to it. But yeah, hooked on phonics, you guys, I don't

26:02

know if you guys ever heard of hooked on phonics, hooked

26:04

on phonics is like a way of like, my mom wanted

26:06

us to like, learn and be better after school because we

26:08

were all just really bad at like, I was really bad

26:10

at reading. I couldn't tell though. Yeah.

26:13

Thank you, brother. And I was like, this is Chiquis. Call

26:15

me my teacher. And I was a strict teacher. And we'd

26:17

have to wait, raise our hand and stuff. And me and

26:19

Jackie loved it, dude. I love it. I don't know. Johnny

26:21

and Jennik, I never got the same thing, but. Yeah,

26:23

no, I honestly like, Oh, that makes me so happy.

26:25

Oh my God. Do one more. No,

26:28

you ask me one. Okay.

26:31

All right. Okay. Okay.

26:34

This is a good one for Ali's family. So all the siblings,

26:36

how likely are you to bring your significant

26:38

other home to meet us? And

26:41

what is something that you'd warn them

26:43

about beforehand? So they obviously your significant

26:45

other has met us. Yes. Fuck

26:48

no, but that doesn't count. Imagine you met.

26:50

We didn't, I didn't, we didn't all meet Emilio

26:52

at the same time. Yeah. What

26:54

would be your warning if he was coming to the house? Well,

26:57

the thing is talking about that. Remember when we, when

26:59

he was at Becky's party and how you didn't like

27:01

him? Oh my God, dude. I'm so glad I didn't

27:03

fuck him up like I wanted to. Guys,

27:07

this is a real. He didn't look tough to me. And

27:09

then I'm like, I started riding bikes with them and I'm

27:11

like, Oh, this is so, so ripped. Any, any box or

27:13

he would have fucked me up, but I wanted to beat,

27:16

I wanted to beat Emilio's ass because he dropped, he

27:18

didn't do it on purpose, but he bumped into a

27:20

table and the beer spilled on me. And I was

27:23

already like, This is a night. And he was already

27:25

talking to my sister and I'm like, They're the same

27:27

age, by the way. Yeah. And so he wasn't going

27:29

to, I'm glad, I'm glad. But I

27:32

was probably being a douche, dude. I think I was.

27:34

You were. You and Red. Now Red is

27:36

his, Mikey's best friend. He's like a brother to

27:38

us and he cuts Emilio's hair. Yeah.

27:40

I don't mean to do it. Yes. Yeah.

27:43

Yeah. Mikey don't like that for one. I don't

27:46

like him either. And I was like, dude, I was like, he's really nice. I'm going

27:48

to get it to you. And I'm like, yeah, I was like, I like

27:50

him. He's, he, you just, you needed,

27:52

I was more mad at you because you just

27:54

like, you're just like, Oh, I can, you made

27:56

it obvious how much you like them off of

27:58

it. But I sure did. I

28:00

like that that guy on the sit right for the record. He's

28:03

that these awesome do doubt He makes you

28:05

like he I've never seen someone push you

28:07

push you out of your comfort zone in

28:09

the obvious way possible Where's I not

28:12

that you're lazy or anything or you're not

28:14

outdoorsy But you were never gonna plan a

28:16

trip to go to fucking high Zion and

28:18

national across the country Don't

28:20

do that. I finally found like my match because

28:22

I've always been into hiking and all that stuff

28:24

But like he really pulled that like or even

28:27

just watching the office Like I'm like I never

28:29

would have thought that'd be your type of comedy

28:31

Yeah, and then like you're like and like when

28:33

you got into it like oh, so you watch

28:35

this episode this episode And I'm like, he's just

28:37

a fucking cool Tony to all these things.

28:39

You got what we love kill Tony. I'm

28:42

going that I'm going yeah, I'm going to

28:44

the forum. We should go you shut up.

28:46

Oh my god You gotta tell me

28:48

he's gonna love you isn't making you want to get back in the

28:50

comedy, but it's not gonna happen Oh, you should

28:52

that'd be fucking anyways. But anyways, you know, they love

28:54

each other now. Yeah, okay good now They love each

28:56

other and Emilio's like damn why does the pull out

28:58

to be so freakin nice? I wanted to hate them

29:00

so bad But

29:03

now they love each other. So anyways, that's not really changing

29:05

I wanted to just you know, I wish we had more

29:07

time but brother I love No,

29:09

I freaking love it and I think that it's beautiful that

29:11

people can Feel and see

29:13

your heart through the podcast because there's so

29:15

much about you that people don't know But

29:17

I love that that it's mysterious. You're intriguing.

29:20

I think the cheat code is a I mean, this

29:22

just feels like a conversation We're having at your house.

29:24

So I know otherwise I don't think it would have

29:26

came out but I'm glad you for having me and

29:28

I'm blessed to be here I love you brother

29:30

with all my heart. Well, you guys thank you

29:32

for watching. Honestly, I hope that you guys enjoyed

29:34

this conversation because for me It's super special because

29:37

my brother's super busy now. He has his

29:39

family has girls He has his business and

29:42

I'm just happy that I got this moment with you And then you

29:44

will have to meet a part of this and before we

29:46

go I just like I just want to tell you just how

29:48

much Because another yet

29:50

another reason why I am how I am is

29:52

because I'm not comfortable growing in front of the

29:55

world I need to do it in my privacy

29:57

and you have never had that that luxury You

30:00

know, you've had to become the cheeky that you

30:02

are in front of everyone's fucking eyes and the

30:05

fact that you've been able to do it and keep your head

30:07

up high and grow. And the fact,

30:09

I'm still confident that you're nowhere near what you're gonna

30:11

be one day, you know? Like, I don't know what

30:13

the fuck that is. Like, maybe you don't or maybe

30:16

you have a better idea, but I'm confident you being

30:18

there. And like, you've done it in front of everyone's

30:20

eyes and it's like, everyone can see like, it's

30:23

been because of you, you know? Thank you brother. Like, we have

30:25

some mom, we're here and people know about us because of mom

30:27

and people have love for us because of mom. But

30:31

you know, like you've also been able to

30:33

become your own person, I feel like, you

30:35

know? So, thank you for being an

30:37

inspiration. Oh brother, I love

30:40

you. Okay, I gotta go now. Okay,

30:42

I love you so much you guys. Thank you

30:44

for watching and listening to this episode of Cheeky's

30:46

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30:48

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