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Hello everyone, and welcome to your favorite

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podcast, She gets in Chill. I

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hope that you're having a beautiful week. If it is Monday

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and you know you're watching this on Monday,

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it will be have an amazing week and

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neither day. Honestly, thank you for tuning

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in, either if you're listening or watching. Thank

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you so much. I am very excited

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today because I have a very special

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guest, someone that needs a lot to

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meet, someone that I've been wanting to have on

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my podcast for a very long time. And

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I have my little pew carts here, but I don't think I'm even

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going to use them. And

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she's a family member. And her name is

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Karina Rivera Nabarrow. Everybody

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say hat to be cut in. So

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this is my cousin. We're two years apart,

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right because it's two years apart, and

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she is. For those of you who are familiar

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with their family, she is my mom's brother,

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Will Stravel. So there's Pete,

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my uncle Gus, then my mom,

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then my dear little Bee well and

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Rosie. So this is my

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uncle who, that's daughter who

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my theo guys I love very much. I have to actually

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bring them on the pod. You guys. I think it would be a

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very yeah, it would be a very great freaking

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conversation. But I thought it'd be nice

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to bring my cousin because this is I'm gonna

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say it, and I don't want her anyone's feelings, but

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this is my favorite cousin. She's been my favorite cousin

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since Ford.

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We have the favorites, you know, forever. We

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just we grew up together.

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This was I was explaining,

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you know, I was only able to spend the night at two people's houses

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if it was at the HS house and

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the AS house.

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So that was that's who you Yeah, yep,

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And same year, we spent a lot of time together. Yeah,

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and Trey is my mom. That's what they call my

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mom, Chay the family, and

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and yeah, my mom would only let me spend the night

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at you know, Patty at the Obus's house.

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So we did a lot of summers together, and

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we grew up together, and we've lived through

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a lot, you guys. So we're gonna talk about

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a lot of things, because we didn't even really

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talk much about what we're going to talk and we have

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the few cards here, but I just want to let the conversation

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flow and

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and you're married, cousin, so it was okay, that's say in tomorrow.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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One thing I will tell you, and I think i've

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told you this, cousin, is that I'm so grateful

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because you were one of the few people that stood

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by me during that time that

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my mom and all were sorry. Yeah, she were

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very pissed.

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I was, and I mean one of the

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last messages that I got to

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message with you know, your mom was like, you

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know, you got to talk to this lady. I always

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felt like I was able to tell her like.

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Lady like no, yeah,

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that's what it was. Figgure right

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now because my mom

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would always say, and when I

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was younger, they should work with my feelings. I'm not evenna lie,

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but my mom would say, why can't you be like your

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cousin Karna. She she should

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have been my daughter because

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she's smart, because you've always gotten straight

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a's, because you've been good in school. She's a reader.

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She would get straight a's. And I'm I'm gonna lie. I

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was I was a C student. I was like, I'm

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gonna just get by.

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These students are bosses.

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Thank you, cousin. It used to hurt my feelings,

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I'm like, Mom, how can you say that? She's

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like, yeah, I have some dumb ass kids and

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they sure, now, no, we're

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doing other thing. But yes, my cousin, he's always

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been very intelligent. You're very smart, straight

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A student, like, that's one thing my mom was,

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you guys had a very nice and unique

3:18

relationship because you

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were one of the few people that can also tell her

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hey, I don't agree with that thea.

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Again, I would never say disrespectful because

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I know she would cuss me out or yah to me.

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But talking about her cussing us out, do you want to

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tell everyone about that time that she beat around?

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Oh?

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Yes, that is like.

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My favorite story to tell

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because it was in November.

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I'll never forget.

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It was Jackie's birthday and we

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were going to it

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was Tracky Cheese and Lakewood and

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Cheeks was like, let's go see

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Junior and I was like he was my little boyfriend.

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Yeah, I guess her boyfriend at the time. And we

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were down the street and Cheeks

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was like, okay, let's see her. Mom's key and I

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just worked at all the times.

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I was like, you know, I felt I was like, we

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can get cat.

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I was like it doesn't matter. Okay, let's say took the

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keys on my back.

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We went and my mom

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called my the cell phone that was in there

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or whatever, and I.

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Was like, oh my god, we're gonna get in trouble.

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And yeah, right when we were

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over there, they started

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calling. Well, we got back to the

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chirky cheese, shaggy cheese. My bianche

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was like, let's go for a ride. She

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took my mom's car.

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It was at eighty seven Mercedes, I'll never bring it.

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And she parked and

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she like, you

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know, she slept us around.

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Yeah, this was

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before all this. Yeah, it was a thing

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you guys that you should not do this in touch your children. I'm

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probably if she was here, she would have cared. Now, always

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the type of mom would be like, I tell him it's cool

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that I kicked dressing. Oh yeah, oh yeah Dan

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yeah no game.

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So then she you know, can tra

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us And then she made us saying to

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Jackie saying you having birthday

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to her and you better be up yes or

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so there we are like cheeks,

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you know.

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Holding back tears.

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I'm holding back to yours because I'm like pissed

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and I'm like, damn.

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I got in trouble and it's all my fault

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because then I'm sorry.

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And then two weeks after that, to eat

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your mom calls the house and she

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has to talk to me. She's like, Mayhan,

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She's like, are you still mad at me?

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I was like no.

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She's like, okay, what are you off for Christmas?

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And that was oh my

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mom, you know that was my

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cousain. Just she's like, she's probably like I want to say no

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to this girl. But all right, here we

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go. Oh my gosh, kids don't do that.

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Okay, yeah, listen to your parents. Please listen

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to your parents. But okay,

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now get into something a little bit more serious. This is a question

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that I don't think I've asked you, but I

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want to ask you. How what have

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you felt about me

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not using the last

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day of Rivera because you are Rivera? But

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like one, you could be straight up like how

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do you feel about it?

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You know, listen, it didn't bother me. I don't feel like that.

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Was an issue.

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I understand, Like why because

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at one point in our lives having

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the last name Rivera was such an

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honor and you decided

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that to use that. I was like, you know, that's that's

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that's fine. Like she stands on her own, like

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she could do it on her own. So, you

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know, I think it was good because everybody

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knows you as Cheeky's not like you

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know, cheeee Rivera Cheekys, so

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they know like you. I personally

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wasn't offended. I know maybe

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some people in our family might have been offended.

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By that, but yeah, yeah, because

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I've gotten that question a lot. And

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it's not that I didn't want to use it.

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It's just I've always I've always been Jenny

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Marine, yeah, no matter what my dad did.

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Yeah, I've always held

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on to that. Last year, I never felt the need

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to change it. I mean, Mikey feels

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different, which I respect. Did Mikey changes

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He has it legally, but he wants

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to and he wants to also, like you

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know, change his daughter's last names. And I don't know, if

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I'm talking too much, you will probably be upset with me. But that's

7:08

what I know. I don't think he's done it yet. He wants

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him to be Rivera, and I'm fine with that. I respect

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everyone's dicisies, you know how I am. I

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just I always was like, Okay, I want to

7:17

be known as cheeky's and not that I'm not proud of my

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mother and everything. Yeah she accomplished, but

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not because I'm like, oh, I'm descending my dad's last name.

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It's just more of like who I am. Yeah, I know what

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I mean. And now that

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all this stuff has happened in our family,

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to be honest, I feel better about it. Yeah, I'm like,

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to be honest, I'm like, I don't not that I

7:37

don't want to be associated because that's my

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family regarded as that's my blood regardless,

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and I never wish to anything bad like at

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all, but I

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just don't. There's a lot of things that I don't agree with and all like things

7:48

that have happened that just I'm like.

7:50

Yeah, I completely I completely

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agree him. Yeah, you're not wanting to fold

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on to that. You know, it's completely relevant

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because, like you said, everything that has happened,

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especially in the past eleven years,

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has been a motherfucking a lot. It

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has had a lot to process

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still, So there's day a lot to

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process, a lot to heal,

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a lot of still grief, you

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know.

8:17

Jennakan that said, at the end of day, it's a

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cycle. It's not linear.

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It's like some dings are cool, and then

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some days you're like, what this is really

8:25

life? This is not what I had

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envisioned or when we

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were growing up, or how our

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dynamics were as far as our family dynamics,

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never expected things to.

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Churn out how they were.

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But then you you adjust,

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you learn to deal with to

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kind of like re learn how to relive,

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you know.

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And I'm not going to say that

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it was always all bad. There was always a lot

8:50

of things in our family that

8:53

happened that you and I would talk about, what little

8:55

yeah, behind closed doors and it's just like, I don't know,

8:57

this is a little weird. Yeah, A lot of things,

9:00

a lot of jealousy, a lot of stuff

9:02

that we would notice when we were cloyers.

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Well we're teenagers, and I would ask you like, is

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this like, am I seeing things from a weird

9:08

point of view? Or you

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know, or you see kind of what I'm seeing That

9:13

we did see a lot of things.

9:15

I was like, No, a lot of jealousy amongst

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the women. It was a lot of jealousy amongst women.

9:19

And I'm sure a lot of the people that are listening

9:22

or watching can relate, you know. I think

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this happens a lot in many families. It's just

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our family happens to be a

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famous one or a very successful

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one or whatever you want to call it. But this

9:33

is stuff that we've noticed for a very long time. I think we

9:35

just knew how to hide it, or there wasn't social

9:37

media or you know, all this stuff.

9:39

But there were moments that we had great Christmases

9:42

together.

9:42

Yeah, you know.

9:43

There were time when we lived off of Illu streeted Long

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Beach at Grandma's house and for Christmas, Oh,

9:47

he had it there, and you know, and Grandma

9:50

and Grandpa were still together, and they would

9:52

give us I can see as you remember that they you

9:54

know, and we would break them and they would

9:56

make us box, you guys in the

9:59

hard, boxing each other. I had a box

10:01

Doorna. She beat my ass every time. And

10:05

then my mom passed and I was

10:07

one of the main pillars, I think in

10:09

her family.

10:10

And that's when I realized that this now,

10:12

I really realized

10:14

that, like, damn, my aunt really held

10:16

this family together.

10:18

She didn't.

10:18

And you start processing now you're like,

10:21

damn, like this is not what

10:24

I thought my family was.

10:26

Like you said, I love a family. I didn't never

10:28

wish about it will or nothing like that. It's

10:31

just not what I thought what

10:33

happened exactly. I thought it was gonna

10:36

make people closer. I thought it was gonna

10:38

make you know. I was like, you know, I love

10:40

being on the sidelines and seeing you know,

10:43

like you cousin doing your singing,

10:45

You're seeing other people doing their thing them. I was

10:47

like, you know, awsome be fabulous.

10:49

Yeah, it's been pretty crazy.

10:52

And I realized and I

10:54

always knew that my mom was a pillar because

10:56

I saw how people would look for her and

10:59

how she was

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needed financially. Yeah, it's just the truth.

11:04

Whether people want to admit it or not,

11:06

the truth is I saw and I lived it at first.

11:08

So many conversations, my mom

11:11

told me so many things. She helped

11:13

out a lot of people going

11:20

back to so this whole thing I

11:22

did realize that who my mom was

11:25

in the family was that my mom would

11:27

tell people straight up, like she

11:29

would not put up with anyone's book. Yeah, no, she

11:31

didn't. And if something was wrong, she would

11:33

see it. She would either write you an email.

11:36

She loved that emails, you know, but

11:38

she would let it be old, you know, and

11:41

she'd be like, this is what's going on, and this is why I'm

11:43

moving to Corona. And I don't agree with this, that's

11:45

why. That's why we

11:47

moved to Corona because of Grandpa and his

11:49

affair. Okay, that's why. Because

11:51

I don't know if you remember, growing up, we were all

11:53

at like in a certain radius.

11:56

Everyone had to be either in loam, beat your thing.

11:58

It couldn't be too far.

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So it was like this family thing.

12:02

Yeah, and my mom said, f this, I'm gonna

12:04

be the first one to move away. Yeah, because I

12:06

was so disappointed and so hurt that my grandpa

12:09

was having an affair with a woman that was her

12:11

age. I was having a baby. She

12:13

was distraught. She just was like, that's my daddy

12:16

like coming so our family. Mom was so distorted.

12:18

She just said, f this, I'm leaving, And from there she

12:21

started happening. Yeah, you know, it was already kind

12:23

of Yeah. And I'm not trying to judge my grandpa.

12:25

I don't agree with a lot of things. I

12:27

still love my grandpa. I left my grandpa through it,

12:29

but that's the truth, you know, And I think

12:31

it did Hyperrito, mister Burrito,

12:35

and I'm missing him. I haven't talked to him in so long. You

12:37

know, it's it's real mest up all this stuff that's happening.

12:39

But there's again there's a lot of stuff that I don't agree with.

12:41

Yeah, but that's when we

12:43

moved away and my mom would just say how

12:46

it is, and I when she was no longer

12:48

there, there was like no authority. Yeah.

12:51

Then I think that's when it was that everything was chaotic

12:53

and they're missing of course they're missing their daughter,

12:55

they're missing their sister. Like it's

12:57

such a huge law. It was a world our

13:00

family that it just everything

13:02

that was chaos. Yeah. You know, for

13:04

a long time I was very like considered

13:06

of that and compassionate about everyone's feelings.

13:08

But then it gets to a point where you're like I

13:11

can't excuse that. I'm sorry no matter what. Yeah,

13:14

you still got to act right because yeah, my mom's like here

13:16

physically, but she still watched

13:18

it. Oh yeah.

13:19

And that's that's one thing is like that my

13:21

aunt was my aunt.

13:22

I respected my aunt.

13:24

I knew that lady did not play and

13:27

I just knew that a lot

13:29

of things that have happened

13:32

was in his past eleven years.

13:34

My aunt was still near that would not ever, ever,

13:37

ever.

13:37

Ever, not

13:40

a word would have came out of people's mouth, not

13:43

certain actions.

13:46

I just know that for sure. That's one thing I will

13:48

say. Mam was an amazing provis was a great mom.

13:50

We had a relationship

13:52

that we were sisters and they were just so so close,

13:55

but we loved each other so much. Honestly, I think I can go

13:57

to my mom for anything. It's our mom, Simon, so

13:59

I want and she would get it from me. Because right now I remember

14:01

the Buddy which she surprised me with that car yet

14:05

you know it was blue. Yeah, you know it's a vertical

14:07

verto. It had just came out. Yeah,

14:09

it was two early two thousand early

14:11

two. I think it was two thousand and three somebody. Yeah,

14:14

right, I think you are what for your sixteenth birthday problem?

14:16

Now, huh something like that? Oh my mama.

14:19

But now that we're talking about all this and that you

14:21

know that it's true you lived through

14:23

everything with me, cousin, even during

14:25

that time though we had talked a little bit at the end of the day,

14:28

like it wasn't even that much. We have not been

14:30

there. You've been there with me. And I heard

14:32

this comment the other day, and I'm not

14:34

gonna say where or who said it, but I'm sure you

14:36

guys will know. But they

14:38

set something down the lines of that

14:40

I was such a nice

14:43

girl. I was so nice, and that

14:45

fame got to me, that fame changed me, that

14:48

I'm a different personnel and it's the people

14:50

that surround me that have changed me. Honestly,

14:52

Cousin, say it how it is, whatever it is that

14:54

you may think, I want you to tell me. Know

14:56

what do you think about that? Now? I think sometimes

14:59

you.

14:59

Need to be more of a bit, you

15:01

know, because you know, cheeks,

15:03

You've always been, always

15:06

looked at people, seeing the good siding

15:08

people.

15:09

You don't like to.

15:10

Cause problems, you don't like

15:12

to you know, certain

15:15

frictions. So

15:18

I think that sometimes

15:20

you need a babitch. But no, I don't think

15:22

fame has gotten to you in any way, shape

15:24

or form, thing and everybody just because I see

15:27

you.

15:27

Know you're my cousin.

15:28

I it's thirty

15:30

six years of you know, even

15:33

my cousin, I see you the same, you know.

15:35

I really don't feel that I'm saying fame because

15:37

I don't. I don't I know people know me. I

15:39

don't.

15:40

I don't know.

15:41

Like when they said that. I was like, what, like,

15:43

I what happened

15:45

is that I'm not that that naive

15:48

yeah, global little girl that I

15:50

used to be, that you could just manipulate.

15:53

I don't know.

15:53

I was just when I when I heard that the other day, I was like, Okay,

15:56

well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's

15:58

fine. No memory is that. It's just I

16:00

have changed. I have changed in a way of

16:02

if I'm saying the same person and I'm

16:04

not really, yeah, I'm not evolving. Yeah, of course

16:07

I changed. Yes, yeah, I have changed. I'm not the same

16:09

person I was. I'm more mature. I

16:11

could say that I'm smarter, I'm wiser.

16:17

Do you still talk to any of our eccentifics?

16:19

I haven't, cousin, I'm

16:21

like the uh, the rose, will you

16:23

know, reach out and say happy birthday here you

16:25

know, here in there, But to

16:29

have conversations might have

16:31

have no for me. My separation

16:34

of our.

16:34

Family was back in like twenty

16:36

eighteen.

16:37

There was a specific situation that

16:40

I was just like, and this is something that you had

16:42

no control over, or that you needed to fix

16:45

or my other cousins

16:47

needed to fix. No, this was sort of

16:49

like the pillars of our family that needed

16:52

to fix situations and they

16:54

never got fixed. So I just knew that

16:56

it was not ever.

16:57

Going to give six. You've always been very good

16:59

with being a risk backful kind of like you know,

17:01

which I love.

17:02

And I did stay my peace so too to

17:05

my the roves and and they want to say, you

17:07

know, this is not okay

17:10

or what I feel is I

17:12

don't agree with certain Yeah this is and how not

17:14

how our family's supposed to be. And I,

17:17

you know, never be just. I was not respectful,

17:19

but I just said my peace, and you

17:21

know, yeah, yeah.

17:23

And you know what I I don't

17:25

really talk to anyone else other than honestly.

17:27

I would love to have a better relationship with

17:29

all my cousins. I I've always

17:31

said this from the very beginning. You know, I don't

17:34

want the kids,

17:36

the cousins to get involved in all

17:38

this, you know all and that's something that

17:41

you and I would always say, Yeah, I want

17:43

us to be different from the elders. You

17:45

know. I was like, I don't want to find with my cousins.

17:47

Yeah, and even with your the dynamics

17:50

with your siblings. I remember

17:53

you said, I don't want to be like

17:56

how our our you

17:58

know my mom is with you know.

18:00

Her siblings. Yeah, you know it's my it's

18:02

my job as the eldest, and that promise

18:04

I make to my mom that way, I'm gonna try my best to

18:07

no job, leave you. I continue

18:09

to do great job. And you just put the moffuckers in

18:11

the line that have to do. And

18:15

you know those ups.

18:16

And downs are always gonna happen. Yeah,

18:18

and us, we're always

18:21

gonna fight with our siblings or with their family

18:23

members. But there's there's a lie. There's

18:26

a lie. And I feel some

18:29

people don't don't see those wife

18:31

they just yep, they don't. They don't

18:33

respect boundaries. So you know, you

18:35

know, And one thing I will say about my deal Gus Yo.

18:37

Yo, daddy, I love him, I

18:40

will say and I'll say this and

18:42

I've said it many times. And I have to take away

18:44

anything from anyone else but my

18:46

deal Gus has been the only uncle since

18:49

my mom passed eleven years. We're going on

18:51

twelve years, you guys that

18:53

he always says me and not I

18:56

don't have money to give you.

18:58

You need twenty bucks, give you twenty dollars.

19:01

I ain't got more than that right now. He says, I got

19:04

I gotta take care of your dad, Patty, and

19:06

you know whatever, he's like, but he's there to call me to

19:08

bring me water free water of his ALCOHOLI

19:10

water and calls my siblings,

19:13

checks up on us at least once a week, if

19:15

not once every two weeks. But he has been consistent

19:19

that I'm like I

19:21

we all love him so much because of that, because no matter

19:23

what, he respects what we're doing. Yeah, he's

19:26

like, hey me, I heard that. You know this

19:28

happened, And I don't want to be nosy, but

19:30

are you good. He's always streaking on this. Yeah.

19:33

He's a great father.

19:34

Yeah, yeah, my dad. I talked

19:36

to my dad at least children

19:38

Candy. It's like so much my mom like I

19:41

do. I like, this is all carble. Yeah, I love

19:43

you know, burn up. I didn't have the great relationship

19:45

with my mom, and you know now it's

19:47

so much like great or not. And I understand

19:50

I was a pain the ass and I feel like because I was always

19:52

like what why are things like this?

19:54

What? You know? My mom always tells me

19:56

because I end the line. You

19:58

know.

19:58

I was always like combat even becombatd

20:01

in that sense and made in school and

20:03

you know whatever. But I was always like a print

20:05

of my mom's dads.

20:06

Do you feel that that changed your relationship with your mom

20:09

after you had kids? Yes, I

20:11

felt more.

20:12

I understood because, like

20:15

I said, I feel like I was war between

20:17

my brother and I was born like the hot headed

20:19

one like Hi, Like I wasn't out

20:21

fighting with people and some but I was always like one,

20:24

why.

20:24

Aren't things is what you would ask questions?

20:26

Yes, And my mom was like, because that's just

20:28

howly honor. She'd be liked, you didn't understand

20:30

when you have kids you would challenge her. Yes,

20:33

And then I had keys and

20:35

I was like, I know what's talking about, lady.

20:38

I'm very grateful because then he came on the podcast.

20:40

So Hi, you do this conversation for driving all

20:42

the way from Long Beach you guys Radical Foss

20:44

please for Kluma only

20:46

California. That's where

20:48

I was born, Guys at Saint Mary's Hospital.

20:51

But before you go, because if you want to share any socials

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where people could follow you, or you want to keep that private

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or whatever you want to do, please tell them about your business on

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the right so you could find it on

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dot LA for myself.

21:06

It is the spiritual messenger nice.

21:10

All right, well, thank you cousin.

21:11

I love you, you wonderful

21:14

cousin of my soul.

21:15

My wonderful cousin if you if you ever need

21:17

anyone so they'll uplift you, is my cousin.

21:20

I swear your messages are the best. I'm

21:22

like, oh, you make me laugh. You're just You're just,

21:24

You're just let a sunshine in the world. But

21:26

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