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I repeat this a million times in my life.
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People don't change. We are who
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we are.
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You can't change them.
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No, and we can't change ourselves either. We
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are already said in those ways. But we
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can truly compromise. Yeah,
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if you get to a point in your relationship
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where you have to start thinking about how
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to spice it up, you've already
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screwed up.
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Oh Jane, Okay, sure, I
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just kidding.
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Hello.
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Welcome to a special love
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edition of Cheeky's and Chill You guys.
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I am excited because today's guest she
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has a lot of experience, a
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beautiful personality, and I can't
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wait for you guys to meet her. Her name
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is Leliana Mategro. She is an
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actress. She's a comedian and the co
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host of a podcast name Date
0:57
My. I will lead that first on Michael
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Tura. So welcome here. Thank
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you so much, so much for being here.
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It is an honor. It is such a privilege
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to be here with you and talking about
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love, specially my favorite
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subject in the world.
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I know I have a lot of questions, by the way, so I
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hope you don't mind.
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Oh my goodness, I
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am.
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A hopeless I guess a hopeless
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romantic and away. I love to love and
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to be loved. So I thought, you know what,
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what better than to have a
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conversation with a woman who
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has been married five times. We'll get into that right now, you
1:32
guys, which I to me is very intriguing.
1:34
Not at the same time, let's clarify that.
1:36
Let's clarify that. But
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and it's it's the week of Valentine's Day, so
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I said this, let's talk about everything that
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has to do with love. So,
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so thank you, thank you for taking
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the time to be here with me. It's my brand new
1:50
said. I'm still getting used to it. I've
1:53
done audio for so long. Thank you so
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much. I wanted you to be warm.
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Yes, okay, so do you feel like it's hugging you?
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It is very much hugging me.
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Okay, first
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of.
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All, in
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which I know are very almost
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sixty eight years of desserth
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what in March sixty.
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I'm not even joking. I did not think you.
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I'm approaching this seventy with a
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lot of hope.
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Yeah, you look you look great, and you
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have a beautiful energy.
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It's my first time meeting her, you guys, But
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to me, it's like I feel your energy and you're very like
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you're just a big, beautiful personality. I
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love it. I love it, and so
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Okay, first of all, I'd like to ask you the
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podcast date Malita.
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First, why why the name the title? I just
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I want to know.
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Well, the title came I Love It from the
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creators, Okay, Leo clam
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They put the name together, and it
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was their job to find the
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Awlita they wanted for this particular
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show. You know, I never
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thought in my entire life,
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as crazy as I have been, as
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much as people call me the firecracker,
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as much as people like you tell me you have
3:03
a great energy, I've
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always believed that you have to stay young,
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no matter how old. Absolutely, we
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never change who we are. When we become
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this beautiful person as a child, and
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then a teenager and then an adult, we're
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already set on who we are.
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Me. I love love, just like
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you just mentioned to me before. I
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love to love. I love being loved.
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And that comes not only with your
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children, with your friends, with
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your co workers, and with those
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that you choose as your life partners. It's
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not an easy thing.
3:38
It's not it's a big risk, but
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it's something that you get addicted to in a
3:44
way, It's like, that's what I always say.
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Love is the moving forward of the universe,
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and sinamore Without love, how
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do we even exist. It's like, even for me,
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it's like you're busy, you have so many things to do, but
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then at the end of the day, you want to
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be hugged, even if it isn't by a partners,
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by maybe a friend with benefits,
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a sibling, I don't know, just hug me. I just need to be held
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love. It doesn't have to just be a significant other. It's
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just love is such a beautiful thing. It's
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a scary thing. It's a risk, but
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I love to feel it and I love challenging.
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Yes, it is challenging, very challenging.
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But you know, when we are little, we're already
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set and who loves us,
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and that love stays within us.
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Like for me, my biggest
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love ever was Mayawulita
4:30
was both may Aulita, as though I was closer
4:32
to my mother's mother, I
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have never in my life met a
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more gentle, kinder soul
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than that woman was to me, where
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she would rush in the mornings
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to the fresh bakery to get
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me that sweet bread that I could take to
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school, and I could see her running
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from the bakery to where I was taking the bus,
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with her little belly, just bouncing down
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the street and going literally, Lily
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your bread. That to me was
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love, Yes, caring for
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others, giving of yourself.
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Absolutely, But we don't work hard enough
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at it anymore. Times
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have changed so much that we have
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kind of forgotten what love is all about.
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And it's the only in my mind and in
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my heart. It's like you just said, it's
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the only thing that moves the world, and
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it's the one thing that we are letting go off.
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Oh my gosh, yes, and we have to.
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Bring it back. And that's why date
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may Awlita first wife, because
5:34
a wilitas know what it's
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about. Some of us
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like I am Annawalita, I
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am an Awelita. I have two grandsons,
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and I am so happy that they're boys
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because I can teach them.
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This is the way you do it, my boys,
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this is the way you treat a woman. As
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Conquistas tell us a little
5:54
bit about like the you know, just
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the concept of date Malita.
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Absolutely. For those of you who will be
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joining us brand new on
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season two, I'm goa dated oh, thank
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you. Date may Awilita first. Now you're
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not dating me, no, no, no, though
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I would love the possibilities. But
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what it is is we have one
6:16
main data and three possible
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contestants and the
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three of them have to go through
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games and questions with a Wilita
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and my beautiful co host, Vihico
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Ortiz, and we ask
6:32
all these questions and they
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have to go through me, meaning I
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have to like them, I have to accept
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what they're saying. I have to
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really really get to the bottom
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of it all because you know, as a Wlita as
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we know it all.
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Yes, oh my god, I love that.
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And at the very end, the main
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data ends with one of the contestants.
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Oh my goodness. Okay, So that's why I wanted to know.
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I was like, okay, date my Wilita first, because
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you think like you said, and I would, and
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it brings warmth, it brings just
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something to your heart. And
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when you say that right now, it made me. It made
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me like, I'm like, wow, Unfortunately
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I don't have that right now, you know, but it's.
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Thank you day.
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You can call me anytime or not. You
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know what, I've been reading a lot
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lately, you know how on social media. They
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put these little sayings and they
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put older people nowadays, which
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they tell everyone. You know, Oh, I
7:31
don't care what people say anymore. I
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just want to love everybody. I'm going to
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be as open as I can. But
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there's one thing that keeps being repeated,
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and that is the fact that don't come to
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me the day that I die and
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tell me how much you loved me. Tell
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me now while I'm still alive. You
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know, when I and all these
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five marriages that we have mentioned,
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was I in love every time? I know it's a question
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because when people find out that I've
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been married five times, the first
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thing that comes to their faces
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is laughter, and
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I go, that's pretty cool, that it's pretty
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cool that my life can make you smile. But
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it wasn't that easy for me, because
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every time I
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was in love, every time
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I wanted it to be the last.
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One gave it.
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Every time I wanted to
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be loved like never before.
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Yeah, and every time I failed. Every
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time we failed, we
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failed to communicate, we failed
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to share, we
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failed to remember that
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we can get to this sixty seven,
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approaching your seventies really quick.
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And if you don't hold on to that love you're
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going to be alone, and
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I am alone. I
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am alone every single day of my life.
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Because the family has moved on. Many
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of my love to ones have passed away. My
9:05
child and my grandkids are in another
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state. So who do
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I love? I love Cheeky
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when she welcomes me into her studio.
9:15
I love Leo when he takes me to lunch.
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I love everyone that I meet along
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the way because that's what my heart
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tells me to do.
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You're so beautiful. I can't hold on, Guys,
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I'm sorry.
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I know it's love
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is very spiritual, that is
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very much a conscious
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choice. Yes, and
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we have to be kind.
9:40
It's a choice. Yeah. And when you say that,
9:43
the world people have even
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sometimes stop loving. I feel like
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where is I go to different states
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and obviously we live
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here in California, but sometimes I feel like it's
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just the hustle and bustle,
9:58
and it's you go to another state and they
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open the door and they say good morning. I'm like, this
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is so like, that's that's loving, that's
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thank you, thank you for opening There other times when I
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open the door for someone and they won't even
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say thank you, and I'm just like, okay, cool, you're
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welcome.
10:11
You know.
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It's like it's like little things like that that show
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love, that show compassion, that show and I
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know I feel like, no, we have to and I'm
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glad we're having this conversation. And I'm glad you guys
10:20
have date Maiwalita first
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because we have to have this conversation so people
10:24
don't forget the importance of love and how we need
10:27
to be love based. And I always tell myself because
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for a long time I was afraid of loving. I
10:31
was afraid of falling in love. So
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I had to And this is a
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mantra of mine or an affirmation every morning where
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I tell myself it
10:40
is safe for me to love and to be loved every
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day because I have gotten hurt
10:45
by people, even by my own parents,
10:48
even by just it just happens, you know what I
10:50
mean, And you feel I had for a long
10:52
time the fear of
10:54
abandonment and I had to heal that and
10:56
it was because I love so hard. But because
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I love so hard, I also hurt
11:00
very hard. Because it's like I told it, told them, I'm giving you everything.
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And this is how come on with padas in
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a way,
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if you don't mind me asking how when was the first time?
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How old were you when you when you first got married?
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My very first time, I got married at nineteen.
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I got pregnant at eighteen. I
11:22
always said I came from a very
11:24
abusive upbringing
11:29
when it comes to my mother. But
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there was one word that I wanted to mention
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to you when you were just saying all of this. It's
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a matter and I've said it before, loving
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is a matter of forgiving. We
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have to forgive ourselves. We have
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to forgive our parents. Like
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my mom might have done
11:53
a lot of no nos, but she
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was so young. She was seventeen when
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she had me, and
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she didn't know any better.
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It came from an abusive family all
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on her own.
12:04
She was the last child of nine and
12:06
by that time my grandfather,
12:09
who was the chief of police, was
12:11
just so radical in his ways, and
12:14
my grandmother, who was the kindest,
12:16
sweetest, but there
12:18
was abuse there too. It came from generations.
12:21
Is that cultural baggage that we just
12:24
can't get rid of? But yes we
12:26
can, and yes we should because
12:29
it's not taking us anywhere as
12:31
Latinos. We need to get rid of all
12:33
of that.
12:33
Yep, we gotta stop in it,
12:37
but I agree. I agreed breaking generational
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curses guys.
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Absolutely, and we have to love.
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It's it's it's crazy to
12:47
think how far
12:49
we have come in life and society,
12:52
but really, as Latinos,
12:54
we haven't. Yeah, we have forgotten
12:57
that we were. We have been loved since
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we were. We have so
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much to offer, so much.
13:04
And I have forgiven my
13:06
mother, I have forgiven my past,
13:09
I have I have even forgiven husband number
13:11
four, who died on my birthday.
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Oh I
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know you loved me. It was your last way
13:18
of telling me. Okay, But
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yeah, you have to forgive and you have to forgiving.
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Is it gives you the wings to fly
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to sore? I have a whole book on it because
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I had to learn to forgive and really
13:33
forgive, not just say it, you know what
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it's like, really meaning it and really just letting go
13:38
of that baggage and resentment makes
13:40
you sick. It's like, it's not it's not healthy for you,
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it's not healthy for the other person. So
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it's like it's a gift. Forgiveness is a gift to ourselves,
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which is also a part of loving. And
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do you still believe in love? Do you feel like if
13:51
you know, is there another husband out there for you?
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I mean I feel that.
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I mean I am always
13:57
looking for non say, it's
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a great number let
14:03
me tell you. Okay, so number
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one, since you come from an
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abusive home, all you want to do is
14:11
run away from it. And I
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think that the first time that I married,
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that's exactly what I was looking for. However,
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I was blessed with a child
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and having my beautiful Dela Gabriella.
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Ah, what a
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gift, What a gift having
14:30
her? Not
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only was it a gift from her, but it's something
14:35
that I don't talk much or I haven't
14:37
mentioned much on season one of
14:40
Dey Maya Wilita, But
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I am going to bring him into
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the stage light, and that is God,
14:50
because walking in faith and
14:52
living in that faith is the hardest
14:55
thing to do, especially
14:57
when you are hurt, when you're so young,
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when you don't know, especially when the years
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go by. So when I had
15:03
Delba, a couple of years later, I
15:06
had my first bout with cancer and
15:08
at that point I couldn't
15:10
have any more children. So
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that was my most beautiful gift ever,
15:17
was to have her. Of
15:20
course, husband number one left me because
15:22
he wanted more kids.
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Oh so that okay, Well, you know what,
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he came and served his purpose to
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give you your baby girl. Yeah,
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because people ask me that all the time. This
15:33
was very hard for me to get married. First I've
15:36
been married and divorced, and then when we
15:38
had we got separated out to versall. It was
15:40
so difficult. I was just because I wanted to make it
15:42
work. I was I had I grew
15:44
up in a household where you
15:46
know, marriage didn't work, and that's
15:49
you know, I don't judge my mother, and if
15:51
anything, I've learned so much from it. But I really I
15:53
was like, yo, I want to make it work, and I'm gonna try,
15:55
and I'm gonna try and I let go or should
15:57
I say I ignored a lot of red flags.
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But it broke my heart so
16:02
bad to get divorced because I wanted
16:04
it to work, and I was like, I don't want to
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fall in the same steps. But it's like, in
16:10
a way back then, now I learned my lesson,
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but I was in a way being judgmental
16:15
and thinking not knowing how difficult
16:17
really marriage is and thinking, oh, it's easy,
16:19
we can make this work, and in a way not
16:23
blaming my mom because she
16:26
had reasons to leave susparekas
16:28
you know her marriages, but I
16:30
guess I just wanted to ask. I was like,
16:32
I want to make this work, but it
16:35
broke my heart. But now I'm like, you know what I believe
16:37
in marriage. I want to get married. If I get married,
16:39
I've said this before, I think in interviews
16:43
where I'm like, you know what, I'll be like jayl you
16:45
know with that she finds a man and she
16:47
gets married. Hey, whatever, love is love,
16:49
and you get married as many times as you want. So
16:52
I'm with you on that. You know, we're gonna pray
16:54
for a good number six for you, Thank
16:56
you very much.
16:57
The only thing that
16:59
I satrifice throughout all
17:01
these marriages was my
17:03
relationship with my child. That
17:06
was a love that I
17:09
misunderstood for a very long time.
17:13
You never stop having that
17:15
conflict, not only with yourself
17:18
but with your child. I
17:20
mean, had I had a boy, it might have been
17:23
different. But I have a
17:25
daughter. And of
17:27
course we don't want our same choices
17:30
and mistakes to be passed
17:32
on or the way
17:34
that they see us and they judge us,
17:36
especially as you get older and older
17:39
and your child leaves
17:41
you behind. So we
17:44
have to learn to not only forgive
17:47
ourselves, but to love ourselves
17:49
more than we love that guy or
17:52
that idea of marriage. I
17:54
would love to have ass my number
17:56
six. Let me tell you, I would love to
17:59
have a wonder man in my life
18:02
because I thought I loved number one.
18:04
No, he gave me a beautiful gift. I
18:07
thought I loved number two. He
18:09
was mean and abusive. I thought
18:11
I loved number three. I
18:14
was a boring situation. I
18:16
thought I loved number four. Again
18:18
he was mean and demeaning. And
18:20
I thought I loved number five, which
18:23
to this day I still do. But
18:26
he was twenty years younger. He
18:29
was my spirit and
18:32
for that reason I still love him.
18:35
But that a man has come into my life
18:37
and said I'm going to treat you like the queen
18:39
that you are, or I'm going to give
18:42
you all my love. No, that hasn't happened.
18:44
So if you are out there and you will
18:47
like to be number.
18:47
Six, make sure you're
18:50
a good man. Though, no, we don't. You know.
18:52
Yeah, you're still breathing.
18:53
You're still breathing, Oh my goodness.
18:56
But with from every person that you've you've been
18:58
with and been married to, you learn something. You grew
19:00
you. And that's what I feel like. I'm like,
19:02
Okay, we learn where they're
19:05
all teachers, they're masters, and it's
19:07
up to us what lesson we learn to make ourselves
19:09
better for the next person or
19:11
for ourselves even you know, but you did. That's
19:13
something that I speak about a lot
19:15
on the podcast is the importance of loving yourself.
19:18
And you can only love people as much as you love
19:20
and respect yourself. And you need to give yourself
19:22
your place. And my mom would always
19:25
say, you know, you have your main meal,
19:27
your main course, and then your
19:30
partner is the dessert. They're there to
19:32
compliment your life. They shouldn't be your
19:34
whole life. It's you respect them,
19:36
they respect you, and it's they're your dessert.
19:38
And I'll never forget out.
19:40
And that is one thing that
19:43
because we don't learn, because
19:46
we come from such a culture
19:48
full of baggage when it comes to the love department,
19:53
we don't learn to
19:55
be kind or
19:58
to give it our best shot, or
20:00
to really open up our hearts, or
20:03
to accept them for who they are. We
20:06
always want to try and change everyone around
20:08
us. Yeah, and that is so silly,
20:12
you know. We need to just
20:15
love everyone. Yeah, no
20:18
matter how we love them, accept
20:20
them for who they are. I repeat this
20:22
a million times in my life. People don't
20:24
change. We are who we are.
20:26
You can't change them.
20:27
No, and we can't change ourselves either.
20:30
We are already said in those ways. But we
20:32
can truly compromise. Yeah, we can
20:34
compromise. We can accept them for who
20:36
they are, and maybe in the communication
20:39
process of creating that new
20:41
relationship, then you
20:43
know have your best friend. And
20:45
that's what I miss about husband number five.
20:48
He was my best friend.
20:49
He was like your soul, like your soul mad he totally
20:52
was he totally. Was it a mutual
20:54
like separation is nice?
20:55
No, that was all me.
20:57
Okay, it was all me, And.
20:59
That is what I'm saying about
21:01
not learning from our own
21:03
I've been alone now for fourteen years.
21:06
Okay, that was my next question.
21:08
Okayeen fourteen years, and those years I've
21:10
had a lot of time to get to know myself.
21:14
But the reason
21:16
that I pushed him away One,
21:19
he was younger. Two,
21:21
I thought he would be a great father. I
21:24
thought he needed to find a younger woman.
21:27
And I just pushed him completely away from my
21:29
life. And is the worst mistake.
21:31
I have ever made.
21:33
I think you're speaking to my soul right now.
21:35
Because my.
21:37
Partner, my fiance, is seven years younger, and
21:39
I've been battling with this and this is something I haven't
21:41
spoken to anyone really out loud
21:44
because he's seven years younger,
21:46
and I wasn't sure for a long time
21:48
if I want to have kids or not, if I can even I don't
21:50
know, you know. And I
21:53
was kind of in a way pushing him away. I'm like, you know
21:55
what, maybe you need a younger girl and
21:57
someone that hasn't been married and hasn't been through all
21:59
this stuff. I'm a workaholic, you
22:01
know. Because you say, hey, I said that before that,
22:04
I felt like, but he's so good to me,
22:06
Matra Tauben and he just says that I'm
22:08
the best thing that's ever happened. And he treats me. It's not just
22:10
he just says it. He treats me very well. And
22:13
I feel like, right now you're speaking to me, It's like, so,
22:16
why are.
22:16
You still it all? Yeah, because
22:19
that's exactly what we do.
22:21
Yeah. I feel like it's more in a way
22:24
of like, you
22:27
know, self destructive.
22:28
I don't know it totally is, but
22:30
in that process of talking about how
22:32
you have forgiven yourself? How have you
22:34
really mm hmm or what are
22:36
you waiting for? Who are you waiting to give
22:39
you?
22:40
Hello?
22:41
Knock knock, chicky or
22:45
knock knock on your heart?
22:47
Yes, seven years younger. So
22:49
what he can bring some bright
22:52
light and some enthusiasm and
22:54
some something new to your relationship
22:56
that you don't know anything about. And
22:58
you think you can let go of that? Do
23:00
you know what a gift that is? Don't
23:03
ever let go of that when you
23:05
just said that he treats you, well, that's
23:08
all you need is
23:10
that love, that constant
23:13
care and companionship, that
23:16
youthfulness, that rightness,
23:18
that light, enjoy
23:21
it and everywhere that comes
23:23
to your mind where you go, oh
23:25
no, you know, or my mom did
23:27
this, or my uncle or
23:30
Gino Leskina, whoever it is. We
23:32
don't care about that. We care what is happening
23:34
and what Chiky is feeling right now
23:36
from this moment on. And
23:39
you love him for who he is, and
23:42
you give him those children if
23:44
you want them, that is your choice.
23:47
But I tell you, I'm just very
23:50
happy I have one little girl
23:52
that can stay in this world.
23:55
I know that the new generations are
23:59
kind of staying away from being parents,
24:02
you know, and that's how
24:04
our world is changing.
24:06
Yes, yeah, I mean my OBGYN
24:08
told me the other day, she said, you know, something that
24:11
stuck to me. I think for a long time
24:13
I was afraid of having a
24:15
baby because of the beautiful
24:18
and also I
24:20
don't know what the word is, but with my mom and we were so
24:23
close in age, we were like sisters. We had a
24:25
very very difficult relationship
24:27
but a very beautiful one at the same time. And I always
24:29
thought, like, I don't know, if you know, I've already
24:31
raised my siblings, like I want to kind of do my own
24:33
thing. And I made up all these excuses,
24:36
you know, And it was out of
24:38
fear I think of just I don't know, maybe
24:40
repeating the same pattern. But I'm like, it's up to me. Maybe
24:43
that's what I have to do, is have a child to heal
24:45
that relationship, you know.
24:48
But she told me once, you
24:50
want to have a child to heal which relationship.
24:53
With my mom? Because I thought, if I have a girl,
24:55
if I because I always wanted a boy for the same reason.
24:58
Still now you feel that way, No, now
25:00
I don't.
25:01
Now.
25:01
Now I'm like, okay, look at Rioskira, whatever
25:03
God wants. If I do have a girl, then maybe
25:05
through that relationship with my daughter, I can
25:07
heal my relationship with my mom. And if it's
25:09
a boy, then you know, now it was like I want
25:11
a boy. I want a boy. If not, I don't want a kiss. It
25:14
was kind of like that because of the
25:16
fear of the relationship that I had,
25:18
you know, even til the end
25:20
of my mom's days, you know. And now it's like
25:23
it's crazy because we were like, we're so close, and
25:25
people come and they see that you're so close to your mom
25:27
and you have such an important place in her life that Kiki
25:30
and Kita they want to cause issues,
25:32
you know, and make up lies and do all these things,
25:34
and unfortunately things stay that way. The good
25:36
thing is I've gone through therapy and I do therapy and I do
25:38
self work every single day, so I
25:40
don't carry that with me anymore. I'm like, you know what, my mom
25:42
and I are good, So I've healed that. Now. I feel
25:44
like if he's the only person,
25:47
my partner is the only one that has made me think, okay,
25:49
he'd be a great father if he wants a kid
25:52
and God allows it, I guess it's
25:54
whatever is meant to happen. I'm more open
25:56
to it for sure. Now now I'm like, you
25:58
know, here here, here are my
26:00
ovaries. Take them. But
26:04
but yeah, I mean, also, my OBG. I was some me
26:06
right now that you were telling about your daughter. She told me. She says,
26:08
you know what, You're never going to regret having a child, but
26:10
you will regret not having one. Yes, And I said,
26:12
oh, well she told me. I was like, oh, okay,
26:14
that changes things a little bit. I'm like, okay, so
26:17
now you're like, you know, you're you're happy you had one, and you're
26:19
she's in the world and she's your legacy.
26:22
So I don't know, you know, I know this
26:24
has been kind of like a heavy conversations. It's
26:28
been a heavy beautiful relationship's going to.
26:30
Gain some way at the end of the show.
26:33
But I'm telling you, guys, I love I love her personality.
26:36
Okay, So would you mind if we ask you, if
26:38
we if I ask you a few questions?
26:40
Oh please?
26:40
I don know I've asked you quite a bit, but I
26:44
mean there there's some fun ones, you know, But
26:47
okay, first of all, this is just one of my personal questions.
26:50
What what's your sign? What's your
26:52
your signal?
26:54
I'm a p with what
26:57
was that word? I think rising my
26:59
right seeing his pisces. Okay, a
27:02
full on pieces?
27:03
You're a full on Oh wow, you're a full of pieces.
27:05
Nice. Okay, so we have a lot in common. I'm
27:07
in cancer and my mom was a cancer Know.
27:09
Much about since Yeah,
27:11
I'll tell you later.
27:12
Okay, So since it's Valentine's Day week,
27:14
let's start with this. Okay, what are your thoughts
27:17
on the holiday? Do you celebrate it?
27:19
Is it corner to you? Are you the type that, like,
27:21
you know, you like to spend
27:23
time by yourself, you go out with your Amiga's Like, what is it
27:25
that you like doing for Valentine's Day?
27:27
Again, we have to go into the
27:29
topic of how the years go by and
27:33
at our different ages. Like if
27:35
there is people who are in their twenties
27:38
or thirties, let's talk about
27:40
when I was at that age. Oh
27:42
yes, I would celebrate everything. Yeah,
27:45
as the years have gone by, what
27:48
will I do in a couple of days in Valentine's
27:51
Day? I will probably
27:53
call those that I love the most.
27:56
There will probably be on one hand the
27:59
number of people I will call because
28:02
most people, like I mentioned before, are
28:05
too busy. People
28:07
have very busy lives, and in the process
28:10
of their busy lives, they don't have
28:12
time for anyone else. And
28:14
as I was growing up in my thirties, my
28:16
forties, my fifties, even
28:19
until my fifties before I sold
28:21
my house a couple of years ago and finally,
28:24
you know, got rid of all those
28:26
memories from the past, big parties,
28:28
lots of people, and then it's just you
28:31
living in a little cubicle because
28:33
you have gotten older and everybody has moved
28:35
on. Up until then, I would celebrate
28:38
all the time. I would dress for
28:40
the occasion. I will wear flowers,
28:42
I will buy flowers, I will send
28:44
cards. I would call, I would love,
28:47
I would hug, I would kiss. Now,
28:51
as you get older, nobody
28:53
calls you. You don't make that
28:55
many more phone calls. The
28:57
cards are not as many that you buy.
29:00
You pass by the aisles where the chocolates
29:02
and the hearts are, and you don't
29:04
have anyone to buy them for anymore.
29:13
Well, when I say
29:16
love everyone around you, do
29:19
it until the day they die. Don't
29:22
let them be all by themselves. Love
29:25
your mothers, your aunts, your grandmothers.
29:28
Show them there, show them,
29:31
and you and everyone might agree,
29:34
might agree with me right now by looking at
29:36
me.
29:37
But wait, just wait
29:40
until those twenty years go by,
29:43
and you'll be sitting in a chair and
29:45
you'll be going, oh, my goodness. I
29:48
remember talking to Alita,
29:50
and this is what she was talking about. We
29:53
don't do it because we're mean people.
29:56
We don't do it because you
29:59
know, we've been taught, Hey, you have to
30:01
be like this when you get to this age. No,
30:05
we are always we always keep
30:07
that child in us. There's a commercial that
30:10
just came out. I'm
30:13
not gonna say the name of the company because
30:15
I always forget anyway, but
30:17
there's three ladies sitting on a bench and
30:21
they're in their probably eighties, and
30:23
they're watching all these children going
30:26
down the snow, sliding
30:29
down the snow. And one of
30:31
the ladies decides to buy some
30:34
pillows to put on the little I
30:37
don't know, the sliding.
30:39
Little things that you used to go, yes, yes,
30:42
the side, yeah, yeah.
30:43
And you see these three ladies,
30:47
three ladies in their eighties, sitting
30:49
there enjoining going down
30:51
the slope of this little
30:53
snow hill, just
30:56
like when they were children.
30:59
Why because we always
31:01
are.
31:02
Because that love, that desire, that
31:04
the want to have fun and be
31:07
loving and show the world. And what do you
31:09
see when they get to the bottom.
31:11
Oh, they're smiling. How
31:13
they're feeling that lung?
31:15
Yeah, healing their inner child.
31:17
Oh yeah, yeah, but
31:19
don't make me cry anymore. Oh, I know, I'm sorry.
31:23
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay, Well,
31:26
I mean yeah, I think I think even like getting
31:28
I always say this too on the podcast, I'm like, you know what,
31:30
even if you don't have a partner, you know, go and
31:33
whatever it is that makes you happy. Maybe that's what
31:35
you're you know, you're gonna wake up that and see how you feel.
31:37
If you want to go to lunch, if you want to take a bath, if you want
31:39
to cover my house, whatever you want to do. On Valantine's
31:41
that you let me know.
31:42
What's her address? Just write it down from
31:44
it?
31:44
Yeah, okay, yes, yes,
31:46
please write it down. Okay, okay.
31:52
Next question for those in a long in long term
31:54
relationships, do you have any advice on
31:57
how to spice it up? You know what? If
32:00
well, how long was your longest marriage?
32:02
That's a very good question. Let's see. Let
32:04
me backtrack here. The
32:07
longest was my last one. Okay,
32:09
it was eleven years and
32:14
they were amazing. Yeah, they were amazing.
32:17
We had a lot, a lot of fun. I
32:21
continue to be very young through
32:23
those years.
32:26
If you get to a point in your relationship
32:28
where you have to start thinking about how
32:31
to spice it up, you've already
32:33
screwed up.
32:34
Okay, okay, sure,
32:37
no, we need to keep it spicy.
32:40
But in both ways, right, not just the woman.
32:44
Okay, cool, this man out there, Oh
32:47
no, senor is you.
32:48
Have to you have to show
32:50
your queen who she is. You
32:52
have to treat her as such. We've
32:56
done enough damage to this cultural baggage
32:59
thing. It's move on and just
33:01
love them.
33:02
Yeah, this machismo thing of like no,
33:05
you know, yes,
33:08
that is so, and it has to be both ways.
33:10
Like I said, you know, women conquistar
33:14
romance are men. As I was trying to find the word in my
33:17
head, okay, and I always that's and that's that's
33:19
another thing that as women, we
33:21
want men to know exactly what we want
33:24
and how we what we want. The truth
33:26
is we need to tell
33:28
them. We need to let them know what we expect, what we like.
33:30
Hey, bring me chocolates. I like flowers. I like
33:32
this conquista. We also have to communicate,
33:35
you know, so just a little. That's my bo.
33:37
Even and I think we were just talking.
33:40
There was a conversation going on today that
33:43
even if you go on a first date and
33:46
at the beginning of the night you both have
33:48
this idea of where it should go, talk
33:51
about it. Yes, mention it,
33:53
communicate, communicate even
33:55
from the very beginning, so that at the end of the day
33:57
you don't go, oh, is
34:00
that how you felt? Oh is that what you thought?
34:02
Because no, we need to talk about
34:04
it. Yes, I messed up something. I actually
34:06
went out last night and there was
34:09
a very good looking younger
34:11
man than me but closer to my age
34:14
next to me at the barket trying to get a
34:16
drink, And for like the few
34:18
minutes that he was there, I was like, Okay,
34:20
in my mind, okay, you're cute. And he's looking
34:23
at me like okay, you're cute, and
34:26
let's get a drink. Why don't you get a drink?
34:28
Why don't we take a picture? And we do, and then
34:30
he leaves and I'm like, I messed
34:32
that up.
34:34
Hey, here's my number? Oho,
34:37
what is leana drink at a
34:39
bar. I want to know what's your drink, what's your go
34:42
to drink?
34:42
Actually, I have stopped drinking. Oh,
34:45
okay, during the beginning
34:47
of January this year,
34:50
a year already, I became a vegetarian.
34:53
Oh for her health purposes,
34:55
Okay. I wanted to make sure that I live a
34:57
lot longer, and I
35:00
decided that coffee is now my drink
35:02
of choice. Okay, and once
35:05
in a while, maybe just
35:08
a tiny little bit of vodka with some
35:10
cranberry juice.
35:11
Okay, that's about and that's about it.
35:12
But I feel so much likely.
35:16
M girl. I
35:18
know I've been thinking about that. It's like my long term
35:20
goal. I love tequila, but I'm just like, yeah,
35:23
I'm gonna cleanse Okay, you got to cleanse it out.
35:26
But but I I just it's part
35:28
of my shows, it's part of my culture,
35:30
our culture, you know. But I do
35:32
want to hopefully want to that is.
35:34
My alcoholic baggage.
35:40
Kidding, but but yeah,
35:42
I mean I commend you for that. That's admirable because
35:44
that's honestly one of my desires
35:46
is to be vegetarian and not drink
35:48
any alcohol at all. So okay,
35:50
I want to ask you said you were at a bar, so I was like, I wonder what
35:52
she drinks.
35:53
Well, you know, the one thing that I truly believe
35:55
in.
35:56
Is willpower mm hmm, big
35:58
time.
35:58
And willpower is very hard to have
36:01
and.
36:01
Keep yup and keep As we get older,
36:03
I've noticed it's harder and harder. But will part
36:06
that's something I love to do. That's why I do these cleanses.
36:08
I like to challenge myself, my body, my mind.
36:11
So that's one thing that I feel
36:13
has been lost as well, besides love. It's
36:15
like I don't want to challenge one everything easy. We want that magic
36:17
pill that's gonna make us everything just so easy
36:19
and fast. So that's awesome. Willpower.
36:22
I'm so glad it's willpower.
36:23
Willpower.
36:24
That's one thing that I can say I have a lot
36:26
of, and I think that willpower
36:29
is also what helped me make
36:31
it through each relationship because
36:33
I might have been married five times, but I also
36:36
did a lot of dating in between. What
36:39
can I tell?
36:42
What can I tell you that I am fourteen
36:44
years behind? So number
36:46
six.
36:46
Move right along?
36:47
Hello, Hello, I keep
36:49
insisting, Okay,
36:52
so I have a great question and talk about this. No A
36:54
partner. Number six okay, just if
36:56
someone's watching. What qualities
36:58
make a good partner?
37:00
Oh, kindness,
37:03
kindness, humility.
37:06
Is it important that he believes in God as
37:08
well or has your same faith?
37:09
Yes, he has to believe in God.
37:12
He has to have some form of faith, you
37:15
know, to keep on going. It's
37:17
so hard to hold onto it. But and
37:19
he's got to have a little bit of good
37:22
looks. I mean, I gotta have something good to
37:24
look at. I'm giving him my back,
37:26
yes.
37:27
Yes, and a good package of money. And
37:29
I'm.
37:31
I didn't know what she was going with that joking.
37:34
Pablo's over there, like.
37:34
What money is? What we're talking about? Money?
37:37
Yes? Money, Okay, I'm just kidding.
37:39
No, you guys, I'm not. I'm not. Honestly, I'm not that
37:41
type of girl. I'm not like a gold digger. Because
37:43
I agree
37:46
with you, I need a man. Then, Also, how to communicate
37:49
that is kind Kindness goes. That's
37:51
a part of your character, you know when
37:53
someone's kind, like when
37:56
how they treat other people, you know, I
37:58
just little things like that. I am very observant, so
38:00
kindness is huge, huge, and of course faith
38:02
for me. Okay, so we have another question.
38:06
Are you four or against situationships,
38:10
like, what are the pros and the cons there? What do you think?
38:13
What do you mean by that?
38:14
A situation ship? So a situationship is
38:17
a friend with benefits. I don't have a relationship,
38:19
but I have a situationship. We
38:22
we well, there's no title, we just you know.
38:24
Is that what it's called? Now?
38:25
It's a situationship and it's
38:27
a huge thing. Or or my sneaky link,
38:30
your sneaky link? Do you have a sneaky
38:32
link? Leana? Oh, I wish
38:36
I had to ask. I'll
38:38
find you and I'm just kidding, you know.
38:42
Wow, who's coming up with these words?
38:44
I don't know, But that's nuship
38:47
situations No, I
38:51
had the opportunity to have one,
38:54
maybe a couple of years ago, with a much
38:56
younger man.
38:58
Again because younger man look for me.
39:00
Yeah, because you have a very young spirit for sure.
39:02
Yeah. But no, no,
39:04
no, no, I wouldn't
39:06
want to at this point. No, hell,
39:09
I don't have time for situationships, situations
39:11
You know what, if I died next year, I want the
39:13
one yearship, a one yearship,
39:16
whatever life ship comes
39:18
my way.
39:19
I like that she likes live ships, for
39:21
instance. Do you feel
39:23
that or have you learned from your own
39:26
experiences that having
39:28
someone just to have sex with, Let's just put
39:30
it the way it is. It's like you. For
39:33
me, I've learned, I think
39:35
that just giving yourself to someone sexually,
39:37
it's just you're exchanging energy.
39:39
Like I don't. I can't. I
39:41
can't have just sex to have sex, like, I have to have
39:43
some type of feeling, you know, situations I wouldn't
39:46
work for me personally because I and I've
39:48
told my friend this and I'm not gonna say who, but I told
39:50
her, I said, you know what, I think you need to stop having sex with
39:52
these random guys. You know, it's it's you're
39:54
not allowing God in the universe to
39:56
bring in the right person because God
39:59
and the universe, so whatever you want to call it,
40:01
thinks you're busy because you are exchanging
40:04
energy. Just chill, use
40:07
your vibrator. Okay.
40:08
Sorry, Like
40:10
I say, I have a lot of sex. There's
40:13
just nobody there.
40:14
I love
40:16
you. Yes, I'm not friend. I'm not friend that.
40:18
I'm like, look, i'd rather you
40:21
save that and use this.
40:23
I'm the friend that's going to give you a vibrator because I'm like,
40:25
you know what this is safer. This is safer
40:27
for your feelings, and don't catch
40:30
anything. It's just better in every way. Just use
40:32
this thing. So anyways, we got into
40:34
a whole other conversation. But that's what she thinks on situations.
40:37
Okay, I love it.
40:38
Oh no, no, no, they should
40:40
know people. That's why people are not loving each
40:43
other. Yeah, because they're too busy. Just
40:45
one moment here, one moment there.
40:46
Yeah.
40:46
Now, how many situations ships
40:49
that's one person have
40:52
And how do you know or not know
40:54
that these are going on? And
40:57
does it not bother.
40:58
You that you might not be the only one?
41:00
Yeah? How about diseases
41:02
and things like that? How about no?
41:05
Yes, no on a situation?
41:07
She doesn't like them. I honestly, it's too
41:10
too much.
41:10
And I'm with you now, I'm understanding the cancer
41:12
prices link.
41:13
Here.
41:14
We have to have that feeling.
41:16
Ah for sure, that I loving feeling.
41:18
Yeah, I'm like I need to be attracted. I need to feel
41:20
that you want me. I need to just feel it. Okay,
41:22
So I have one more question for you, Only
41:25
only one more. It's okay
41:27
though, because I've had such a great time with you, I feel like we've only
41:29
been here for like fifteen minutes. Okay,
41:32
So what's your best advice on
41:35
getting over an X? Listen
41:37
up, guys, Okay, what's your best advice
41:39
on that?
41:40
Okay, that's your advice.
41:44
Remember to look
41:46
in the mirror and just love
41:49
yourself when
41:51
that person when you have a breakup,
41:54
And I can tell you after each breakup,
41:56
yes, and I'm
41:58
talking not only a breakup of a relationship
42:01
with a man. I'm talking about a
42:03
friendship with a woman. I'm
42:05
talking about a relationship with one of your
42:07
parents, or your siblings,
42:10
or even your children. In
42:13
order to continue with that, you have to be
42:15
number one, very honest with yourself, love
42:19
yourself, look in the
42:21
mirror the very next day, and go, I
42:23
gave it my all. But
42:25
you have to absolutely be sure
42:27
that you gave it your all, because
42:29
I'm gonna tell you, like it or not, I
42:32
gave each marriage and each relationship
42:35
my very best. I
42:37
loved them. I might have not been too smart
42:40
about it. I might have made
42:42
a lot of mistakes and silly choices,
42:45
but in my heart of hearts, I gave it
42:47
my all and I love them.
42:49
The best way that I could.
42:52
But I wasn't loved back the same way. So
42:54
you have to let them go.
42:56
I think that cats. It's
42:58
not easy, but it's possible. Know
43:01
that you know what, This too shall pass.
43:05
And remember that the new relationship
43:08
has nothing to do with the old one.
43:11
Nothing, not your past experiences,
43:14
not the mistakes that you made, not
43:16
even the silly thoughts that run in your mind every
43:18
single day about the mistakes from
43:21
the past. When you have someone
43:23
new in your life, you give them that
43:24
advice. Absolutely,
43:28
do it all, do it all all over and
43:30
beautiful. And my best advice
43:33
to you is love this relationship
43:35
that you are in because it makes
43:38
you so light and
43:40
airy and bright. Your
43:42
eyes shine and your
43:44
smile is so pretty. And you're
43:46
just thinking about it and I
43:49
don't know him and I
43:51
just met you, But open
43:53
up your heart, open up your mind,
43:56
and he will do the same.
43:57
He already.
44:00
And I want them by the wedding.
44:02
It's absolutely it's you guys
44:04
heard it here and she given chill, It's gonna happen. Oh
44:06
no, thank you so much. That means a lot to me.
44:09
I love giving. I love hearing. Should
44:11
I say I love hearing that that that advice from
44:13
from you from like now, I haven't Alita
44:16
appreciate you have.
44:18
Me as you're Alita, my number
44:20
anytime you want, you know, I say
44:22
this all anytime
44:25
if you have a moment when you have you
44:27
just want to cry and you just go, hey, Lily,
44:30
listen up. That's all. I will be
44:32
there, just to listen to your tears, just
44:34
to listen to one word you have to say.
44:37
I want people to think of me as there a Alita.
44:40
I want people to help me live through
44:43
them, to help me give
44:46
them a little bit of of the loving advice
44:48
that I never got
44:51
because I would have been.
44:53
But look once, You're amazing. Thank you
44:55
so much.
44:56
Yes, you are amazing.
44:59
It was a as It was a beautiful, beautiful
45:01
conversation and I'm so grateful that we were able to
45:03
talk about this. It's such an important
45:06
subject, you know, love, So you guys
45:08
remember be loved based Okay,
45:10
always open your heart to love. That's
45:12
the best way to live. Don't give up all love.
45:15
Like Lily said, you know, to
45:17
get over your ex, you just look
45:19
within and say, you know, what can I
45:22
have done different? What can I do better? And
45:25
that always helps. You're like, okay, cool, it didn't
45:27
work here forgive that person so you can move on. And
45:30
I love what you said about giving yourself,
45:33
your newness to that new person. You
45:35
know they should not suffer because of your past.
45:37
So that's another thing.
45:38
And I remember that if you're
45:40
holding on to that relationship you just
45:43
broke up, but you're holding on to that pain,
45:45
to that resentment, And all that
45:47
God is saying to you is I
45:50
have someone new that you got
45:52
to clear that slave.
45:53
You got to say, you gotta clear it, You gotta let
45:55
go of that baggage.
45:55
So I can bring him down.
45:57
Yes, thank you,
45:59
you're such your so pleasant and thank
46:01
you guys for watching and listening to another
46:03
episode of Cheekys and Chill and I will see you guys
46:05
on the next one.
46:13
Do you need advice on love, relationships,
46:16
health emails? I'm so excited
46:18
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46:21
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46:24
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46:26
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46:30
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46:32
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46:34
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46:37
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