Joe and Zac interview one of the pioneers behind the hot, new podcast, Excellent Failures. Kyle Watson and Chris Meroff, Author of the new book Align, have created an experience for those who desire to fail forward and embrace the journey of personal and professional transformation. In this episode, Kyle shares some of his failures in both church and business and they are something we can all relate to. Follow the Excellent Failures podcast on Spotify, iTunes and more! Visit their website at www.chrismeroff.com