David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof share insights and ideas about the future of the Church and some exciting news about what's next for the podcast. Stay tuned for more to come in the new year! - Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter

121 | Key Trends and Insights: 2020-2022

Dec 8th, 2022 43m 59s

David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof sit down in-person and look back on starting ChurchPulse Weekly in March 2020, what they have learned from leaders through the years of the pandemic and the trends they have seen in the research. Part 1 of 2. -

118 | 7 Podcasts to Check Out + Matt Tresidder, Co-Founder of Leadr

Sep 19th, 2022 39m 50s

Our guest is Matt Tresidder, co-founder and CEO of Leadr, a tech startup providing software for people development. Matt also spent several years as the VP of Sales at Pushpay and has insights on both the startup world as well as the tech space

120 | Stephen Chandler on Responding to Voices of Opposition in Ministry and How Selfishness Has Affected Church Culture

Jun 30th, 2022 38m 3s

Stephen Chandler (senior pastor of Union Church) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to talk about how he responds to pushback as a leader, finding rest amidst the busyness of ministry and redefining success within your church. - Barna’s Resilien

119 | Lisa Bevere on the Crisis in Discipleship, the Pressure on Leaders, and Deconstructing Versus Destroying

Jun 23rd, 2022 39m 48s

Lisa Bevere (speaker and author) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about what has changed in discipleship over the past five years, how to activate the contributions of women in your church and learning the balance for younger generations between de

118 | Bryan Loritts on the Challenges of Fatherhood and Why Juneteenth Matters for the Whole Church

Jun 16th, 2022 35m 22s

Bryan Loritts (president of the Kainos Movement) sits down with David Kinnaman to discuss fatherhood and Juneteenth. Together they talk about the challenges fathers are facing, the role of mentors in the lives of fathers and the ongoing journey

117 | Next Generation Discipleship: The Differences Between Millennials and Gen Z, and the Key Questions Younger Generations are Asking with Grant Skeldon and Luke LeFevre

Jun 9th, 2022 45m 18s

Grant Skeldon and Luke LeFevre join Barna VP of Church Engagement, Joe Jensen, to talk about next generation discipleship, the differences between Millennials and Gen Z and the key questions younger generations are asking. – Follow Barna at

116 | John Eldredge on Resiliency and Ways to Replenish Your Soul After Emotional Impact

Jun 2nd, 2022 29m 27s

John Eldredge sits down with David Kinnaman to reflect on how to address loneliness and isolation after the pandemic, building resilient friendships and listening for the voice of God. – Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @dav

115 | Pete Greig on Growing a Culture of Prayer and How to Hear God's Voice

May 26th, 2022 41m 29s

Pete Greig meets with David Kinnaman to talk about growing a culture of prayer in your church. Together, they discuss how to hear God’s voice, rediscovering the practice of lectio divina and practical tips for leading a great prayer meeting ove

114 | Obstacles in and Inspiring Opportunities for Discipleship, Plus How to Address Deconstruction with Aubrey Sampson

May 19th, 2022 42m 42s

Aubrey Sampson (church planter and author) joins David Kinnaman to discuss the opportunities and obstacles she’s seeing for discipleship, the role of friendship in hosting difficult conversations and encouraging the everyday disciplemakers in y

113 | Ed Stetzer on Church Trends and What Metrics Matter

May 12th, 2022 26m 48s

Ed Stetzer (author, speaker, professor) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to discuss shifting trends in church attendance throughout the pandemic, engaging your congregation in the church’s mission and finding new ways to measure church success.

112 | Dr. Thema Bryant on Recognizing the Signs of Trauma and How to Properly Address Them

May 5th, 2022 35m 14s

Dr. Thema Bryant (president-elect of the American Psychological Association) talks with Carey Nieuwhof about collective trauma and finding healing in the Church. She shares practical ways to recognize the signs of trauma in your congregants as

111 | Children's Ministry and How to Make Resilient Child Disciples with Awana CEO Matt Markins

Apr 28th, 2022 38m 35s

Matt Markins (President and CEO of Awana) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about what’s changed in children’s ministry over the years, how to disciple kids towards a resilient faith and the role parents can play in their

110 | Andy Stanley on Political Polarization in the Church, New Thinking on Church Attendance and Ideology Versus Theology

Apr 21st, 2022 49m 33s

Andy Stanley (senior pastor of North Point Ministries) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to discuss pastoral burnout and political polarization in the Church. He shares new ways he’s thinking about attendance during the pandemic, what he’s learned

109 | Volunteers: Practical Ways to Support, Honor and Retain Them with Brad and Leah Leach

Apr 14th, 2022 33m 44s

Brad & Leah Leach (pastors at City Life Philly) talk with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman about celebrating the volunteers in your church. They discuss practical ideas for volunteer support and retention, as well as an element of fun as a way

108 | Albert Tate on the Perceptions of Race Problems and the Church's Involvement

Apr 7th, 2022 38m 51s

Albert Tate (Lead Pastor of Fellowship Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to discuss how to engage in conversations on racial justice within the Church and the importance of extending unconditional empathy towards those with differ

107 | Andy Byrd on How Identity is the Core Issue of Gen Z and Ways We Can Maximize Their Zeal

Mar 31st, 2022 39m 48s

Andy Byrd (leader with University of the Nations, YWAM Kona) shares about the zeal he’s seeing within Gen Z, how he’s answering teenagers' questions around identity and what he’s doing to empower and channel the passion of one of the most missi

106 | Michael Phillips on Pastoral Burnout in the Black Church and Why Empathy is the Greatest Tool for Social Justice

Mar 24th, 2022 33m 45s

Michael Phillips (education advocate and former pastor) shares with Carey Nieuwhof his reflections on the challenges Black pastors are facing, the importance of local churches in meeting community needs and why he believes empathy is the greate

105 | Dr. Heather Thompson Day on Social Media's Effects on Culture and How It Can Be Used as a Tool to Advance the Church Plus America's Trust Problem

Mar 17th, 2022 41m 28s

Dr. Heather Thompson Day (speaker, writer and professor) joins Carey Nieuwhof to discuss how to use social media as a tool for hope and encouragement in a polarized world. She shares some practical ideas for cutting through the noise online to

104 | Patrick Lencioni on Building a Healthy Team Culture, Activating Your Volunteers and Employee Retention in the Church

Mar 10th, 2022 42m 59s

Patrick Lencioni (author and founder of The Table Group) talks with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman about building a healthy team culture and how churches can better engage and retain their volunteers. – What is Your Working Genius? Discove

103 | Bob Goff on Getting to the Root of Insecurity, Conflict and New Perspectives for the Church

Mar 3rd, 2022 30m 48s

Bob Goff sits down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about finding new, hope-filled perspectives for the Church, what he’s learned from mediating conflict and how pastors can focus their time and attention on what matters most.

102 | Tyler Staton on Steps for Discerning God's Voice, Celebrating and Grieving Transitions, and Finding Prayer Rhythms Through the Pandemic

Feb 24th, 2022 37m 38s

Tyler Staton (Lead Pastor of Bridgetown Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about his own leadership transition, cultivating prayer rhythms that sustain through the pandemic and finding spiritual renewal amidst fatigue. - BELAY: Text the w

101 | Glenn Packiam on the 5 Types of Relationships Every Pastor Needs and the Illusion of Intimacy

Feb 17th, 2022 42m 54s

Glenn Packiam (pastor at New Life Church, Barna fellow) sits down with David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof to discuss how to cultivate resilience in your leadership and the five types of relationships every pastor needs. – Go to Barna.com/Re

100 | Sandra Van Opstal on How Self Assessment is Really for the Sake of Others, the Enneagram and Pursuing Justice

Feb 10th, 2022 46m 6s

Sandra Van Opstal (pastor, author and activist) joins David Kinnaman to talk about the transformative power of the Enneagram, why self-reflection is essential for every leader’s development journey and how the Church can move beyond relief work

099 | Levi Lusko on Why He Hasn't Quit, Rethinking the Church Model and Reaching the Next Generation

Feb 3rd, 2022 41m 22s

Levi Lusko (Pastor of Fresh Life Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about reaching the next generation, the power of physically gathering and what he’s learning about church attendance through the pandemic. – State of Your Church: Barna’s