Strap yourself in because this episode is all over the place. Derek goes in depth about his newest hobby, bullwhips! From there, the guys get in their time machine and go back to the early 1900s to discuss Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Billy Sandow, an

Protecting the Business - Jim Wilson & Plan B

Mar 25th, 2022 1h 1m

In Episode 50, Derek and Jay are back discussing the sacred topic of protecting the business! From "whistleblower" Jim Wilson on the Morton Downey Jr. Show to Bob Roop and his "Plan B," this episode has Derek's take and asks the important quest

48: Florida and Eddie Graham

Jan 16th, 2020 1h 2m

The boys are back with a real conversation about the Florida territory and wrestling legend Eddie Graham. No cats are involved in this episode! Download Episode Here

47.5 – Fall of the Florida Territory

Oct 16th, 2019 9m 59s

Derek is on vacation so Jay and Kyle attempt to interview Derek’s cat about Eddie Graham and the Florida territory. This won’t go well. Download here

47 – Finishing Moves

Sep 30th, 2019 1h 4m

In this episode, Derek and Jay talk about what makes for good and bad finishing moves. In a C&C exclusive, Derek discusses his relationship with Dave Meltzer’s mother! All this and much more on episode 47! Download Here

46: A Bay of Goodies/ Q&A

Sep 16th, 2019 1h 11m

Derek and Jay are back with season 4! This time out, Derek shares a bounty of wrestling relics he was gifted and then answers some listener questions. Lots of rambling and non-sequitur discussions abound! Download Here

45: Tom “Rocky” Stone LIVE!

Jun 14th, 2019 1h 12m

Derek and Jay sit down and talk wrestling with former AWA, Mid-South,WWF and St. Louis wrestler Tom Stone! A lot of great stories and fun! Download here

44: Gimmick Infringement

Jun 2nd, 2019 1h 4m

Derek and Jay discuss how gimmicks have been recycled and used over the years. Derek walks us through his latest wrestling controversy and Jay craps on Bullet Club t-shirts. All this and much more on episode 44! Download Here

43: Wrestling Debuts

May 22nd, 2019 1h 6m

What starts out as a discussion about wrestling debuts quickly devolves into Derek talking about how he ended up on Sports Illustrated’s website, his WWE debut, first run-in and his first match. Lots of stories abound with a little chat about a

42: Rock n Roll Wrestling – Music Television

Apr 11th, 2019 1h

It only took 42 episodes for Derek and Jay to finally talk about Johnny Legend and his incredibly strange wrestling programs! This time out, the guys do a watch along to Rock n Roll Wrestling: Music Television from 1987. DOWNLOAD HERE

Episode 41: In memoriam / Corrections

Apr 3rd, 2019 1h 5m

This time out, Derek and Jay salute the wrestlers who have recently died. Derek discusses his love of Beverly Hills 90210 and Darkman. The guys also address some corrections that need to be made from the things Derek has said. Kyle also has a m

40: The Announcers

Mar 7th, 2019 1h

This time out, Derek and Jay talk about the great wrestling announcers from across the country. Also, Derek shares his opinion and insights into his own announcing career and what he thinks works and doesn’t. DOWNLOAD HERE

Episode 39: It’s a Shoot!

Feb 26th, 2019 1h 3m

This time out, the guys talk about when things get real inside and outside the ring. Derek explains why these moments are romanticized but usually end up awkward and uncomfortable. DOWNLOAD HERE

38.5 – Jobbers (Part 2)

Feb 19th, 2019 36m 25s

The guys are back with the conclusion of their discussion about enhancement talent. DOWNLOAD HERE

38: Jobbers (Part 1)

Feb 9th, 2019 48m 15s

On this episode, Derek and Jay discuss “ enhancement talent “ aka jobbers, the unsung and often maligned heroes of television wrestling. We find out where Kyle has been. And then ask the age old question… pike or pipe? All this and much more in

37: NWA Tag Team Titles

Dec 10th, 2018 1h 1m

Derek and Jay talk about the history of the NWA tag team titles. From inception to it’s eventual demise and then some… Derek talks cats, the Duseks, and what purpose the belts served while Jay tries coping with an urban coyote. All this and muc

36: Superstars on the SuperStation

Nov 27th, 2018 1h 14m

This time out, the guys talk about a rarely discussed television event shown on TBS featuring “fan chosen” matches. Besides the show, the guys get into submission moves, Kyle’s engagement, Jay hiding in the woods and Derek explains why Ric Flai

35: Working with Legends

Oct 18th, 2018 1h 9m

On this episode, Jay grills Derek about working with legends in the business. Derek shares some great stories involving the Rock n Roll Express, Greg Valentine and George Steel’s colostomy bag! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE EPISODE

34: Mid South Wrestling TV: 2/1/1985

Oct 5th, 2018 1h 5m

We’re back with season 3! This time out, the guys watch an episode of Mid South Wrestling which includes a breakdancing Eric Watts, Boyd Pierce in a crazy sport coat, Ted Dibiase in a tuxedo and a Dirty White Boys video package! It’s a fun watc

33 – Wrestling ribs

Jul 25th, 2018 1h

This time out, Derek and Jay talk about famous wrestling ribs, pranks and jokes from the past. Lots of bodily fluids are discussed as well as whether it is OK to eat an Alpaca? All this and much more! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE EP

32 – Q & A

Jul 9th, 2018 1h 27m

On this episode, Derek answers your questions and tells some funny stories about how he broke into the business. Also, the guys are joined by special guest Andy Gorzalski as he and Jay discuss what goes into putting on a wrestling show inside a

31: Gimmick Matches

Jun 20th, 2018 1h 8m

On this episode, Jay and Derek talk about a slew of weird and wild gimmick matches. From the scaffold match to the coal miner’s glove, the guys have some fun talking their way through the who, why and WTF is actually happening in these matches.

30: 1984 – The Year in Wrestling

May 4th, 2018 1h 15m

This time out, the guys discuss all the big events that happened in 1984. The Parade of Champions, the start of the Rock & Wrestling connection and the return of “Black Saturday.” Also, the emotional breakdown of Derek when he finds out porn st

29: The Wrestler (1974) & All the Marbles

Apr 9th, 2018 1h 14m

It’s movie time as Derek and Jay discuss the Verne Gagne vanity project The Wrestler (1974) and the often forgotten women wrestling flick All the Marbles! CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD AND LISTEN TO THE EPISODE

28: AWA Team Challenge Series

Mar 19th, 2018 1h 12m

In this episode the guys discuss the ambitious and ridiculous AWA Team Challenge Series. From the Turkey on a pole, Behind the Eight Ball and Football Clash matches to the “Pink Room of Doom,” it’s all here! An episode that truly left Kyle spee