It was one small step for man, but a huge step for the Cinematters debate. With twinkly toes and stars in his eyes, La La Land director Damien Chazelle returns to direct Ryan Gosling as he takes on the role of Neil Armstrong in First Man. For this episode, Ella reveals what exactly makes the beautiful music really sound like aliens while Dan explains why Chazelle might still need to aim for higher skies.

With some early awards speculation and plenty of warring opinions on Gosling's back catalogue and Claire Foy's emotional strength, there's an astronomical amount to question here. The definitive best space movie, though? There is a correct answer to that. Listen up to find out and put all doubts to rest.

Hosted by Ella Kemp (@efekemp) and Dan SareenProduced and Edited by Ella KempOriginal music by Phoebe Greenland

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